Star Trek Deep Space Nine Season 1 Mafia(game over!)
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Some observations about the setup (nowhere close to everything that can be gathered):
There are three people who are not confirmed.
The vote count is at 1.00. This is notable because the double decimal seems to serve no purpose as of yet. And there is already a vote or the default value starts at 1.00. I don't think I am at all use to this voting system.
Also,
VOTE: LicketyQuickety
UNVOTE: LicketyQuickety
Let the record show that the first vote I have ever cast on this site is LicketyQuickety, Myself. J/K, just trying to get a feel for how the votes work.-
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In post 7, ChannelDelibird wrote:LQ, it is likely that the "1.00" represents the fact that it is the 0th vote count of Day 1, so the next one that Monkeyman posts (the first proper vote count after Day opens) will be 1.01, then 1.02, etc.
Hello everyone. I'm excited about the theme here more than the game size, but I'll cope as best I can.Warning:I'm flying out to Orlandomeet and then Raleigh on Friday so I'll be a bit busy with meet stuff for the next couple of weeks, but I'll check as much as I can. I imagine that my companions will be sympathetic to our man here being in a mafia game.
VOTE: Jamierus Confess.
Please, be vocal in this game. I understand that you will be flirting with the limit amount of vacation time. I can only assume that you had your meets planed out in advance. I understand you will be at least following the thread and that is good. I just hope that you also have time to produce good (and accurate) responses in this thread as well as your time assigned to keeping up to date.
Thank you for your reasoning on the vote count counter; I will consider what you say to be a likely possibility, though not at all a certainty of it being accurate.-
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In post 13, Senator wrote:Goddamnit. PB! Good to have you aboard. Now die
vote: Peacebringer
p.s.
Doesnt matter. aesthetic
I spose it figures that a wannabe professional politician is voting for a Peacebringer.
Questionnaire:
1. How would you rate how good of a player you think you are based on the amount of experience you have had on a scale of 1-9 with 1 being very very poor and 9 being very very well?
Do you have a semi-updated wiki?
Do you enjoy playing as town, scum or a 3p role the most. Specify and explain please.
I'll go first.
1. 6
2. yes.
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In post 18, ChannelDelibird wrote:I don't wish to bash a newbie, so don't take this the wrong way, but I think your questionnaire will function only as noise rather than give us an early insight into who knows everyone else's alignments, LQ.
Y'all should get on the Jamierus wagon. It's going places.
How?
Why?
VOTE: ChannelD-
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In post 20, ChannelDelibird wrote:In post 19, LicketyQuickety wrote:How?
I've been around for a while and I've seen plenty of people attempt to open a game with 'random' questions instead of votes. I've never seen it accomplish anything.
Why?
Let's find out.
Also, for reference, my username is commonly abbreviated to CDB.
Thanks for the heads up on your username abbreviation; I hadn't looked at your Wiki yet.
Do you think my questions are random? If so, what makes you think so?
So iirc, bandwagoning on a player not yet active accomplishes something? What might that be? How does that work? Why is RVS alone the optimal strategy early day 1?-
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In post 34, Senator wrote:I would very much like to remind you that I represent a person, place or thing; and not the glorious Senator Armstrong this time.
Pedit: Nooo. I'm still foggy, but he's rhyming a riddle. Which isn't completely out of character for the account I should add.
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In post 36, Senator wrote:What content could you possibly expect with your silly RQS, a claimed Deep Space Nine, and Archmage's propensity to stageact?
Don't be daft, newb.
My questionnaire had a purpose that I will prolly never divulge in this game thread. Same as the Deep Space Nine claim. And the stage act. The game actually started some time ago.-
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In post 38, Senator wrote:Lolol.
Me pointing out that Archmage has a history of 'the humanities' probably had a purpose too. But that wasn't content.
This was your subsequent post after I questioned you.
In post 34, Senator wrote:I would very much like to remind you that I represent a person, place or thing; and not the glorious Senator Armstrong this time.
Pedit: Nooo. I'm still foggy, but he's rhyming a riddle. Which isn't completely out of character for the account I should add.
This was your first. Care to explain the purpose of this post?-
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Depends how you interpret my post. There was no question mark if that's what your getting at, but you answered nonetheless so I don't understand what you are trying to say here.-
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In post 48, Senator wrote:So you didn't ask me a question you can point to,but feel the need to harp on my 'answer' or lack thereof? And then get stonefaced when confronted instead of apologizing or asking the question in a manner everyone can recognize?
Fine, you want to play semantics whatev. Did you answer my post or not? Your far too concerned with specific specifics that actually don't amount to anything regarding alignment or roles or whatever you think you are doing voting for me.-
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In post 51, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:Now that you can see me, I'm as real as thee.
Someone must guess my name by the end of day three.
It may be a bit presumptuous of me,
Asking you to enumerate your claims so early,
But a vote so naked with no other comments bodes poorly.
You have not guessed who I am, unfortunately,
But your attempt is appreciated, indubitably.
Indubitably doesn't fit the framework you have established. Its a ruse.-
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In post 56, Narninian wrote:are you one of the prophets ludicrious?
I find it intereting and Ludicrous are questing Hostile intent for voting me with a 'naked' vote but Lickity did the same thing after that vote.
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In post 59, Senator wrote:In post 57, PeaceBringer wrote:In post 55, Senator wrote:I'm completely astounded that you jump on a player who voted in RVS for 'weak' reasons. It laughably silly.
you vote me for RVS
your vote for Licktey is not RVS and weak
o.o I see. I can only have one vote in RVS, and once that expires PB is allowed to vote me for establishing a read.
It doesn't have to be concrete, merely better than random.
Could you explain your wording so I can better understand? You say "establish a read" rather than investigate or ponder a read. Is there a reason you chose that wording specifically?-
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In post 66, Hostile Intent wrote:Yep. Tryhard.
I am assuming this argument is a catch 22. If the person argues the point it makes it look like they are indeed a try hard. On the other hand, if the point is not argued it is indication that the point is conceded. Would you agree?-
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In post 70, LittleGumball wrote:Do Day 1s here always move this quickly out of the silly BS beginning stage? Because if so I'm going to LOVE it here.
Anyway hi friends. I'm brand spanking new here so I know absolutely zero about any of the players (which is good I guess because it removes bias?) except for my good friend Jamierus. I read through Day 1 twice now and to my dismay I have nothing I can bring to the table at this point in time. I can't begin to decipher who Ludicrous might be because, assuming he's some sort of character from the show, I don't know anything about the theme.
What I'm most curious about at this point is the argument between Senator and Lick, but I can't tell if it's town vs town or scum vs town yet. (heck it could even be scum trying to distance from each other but that's probably a stretch) I'm not even sure how to go about trying to read Lick's playstyle. Peregrine's attempt to guess Ludicrous's name puts me slightly at ease (hey at least he tried).
Unfortunately that's all that I can come up with at this point.
You are not the first person to have difficulty reading me. I am an impulsive, post happy strategic, intuitive player if you must know.-
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In post 77, Marcrell wrote:VOTE: LocketyQuickety
Definite scum and I can't be bothered to try and spell it.
Your read on me is wrong, whatever it is. How can you expect to make a statement like that with not reasons shown and have people to blindly believe you? You got nothing on me.-
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In post 80, Nero Cain wrote:In post 14, LicketyQuickety wrote:1. How would you rate how good of a player you think you are based on the amount of experience you have had on a scale of 1-9 with 1 being very very poor and 9 being very very well?
Do you have a semi-updated wiki?
Do you enjoy playing as town, scum or a 3p role the most. Specify and explain please.
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no
town, scum is boring as shit.
Tals's posting is a bit annoying. Have you done this before in any games?
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In post 92, MaxwellPuckett wrote:In post 65, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 59, Senator wrote:
o.o I see. I can only have one vote in RVS, and once that expires PB is allowed to vote me for establishing a read.
It doesn't have to be concrete, merely better than random.
Could you explain your wording so I can better understand? You say "establish a read" rather than investigate or ponder a read. Is there a reason you chose that wording specifically?
Really?
VOTE: LicketyQuickety
A 'read' is your view on a player. You can't investigate your own read, though I guess you can ponder it... either way, those two alternatives aren't synonyms to each other. But I'm going to stop right there and ask again: Really?
Ok, so you basically have the same reason as Senator for voting me. So because I don't know the "correct" term for trying to solidify a read, you throw a vote in my direction. Noted.
And I find it curious that with the whole Rumpelstiltskin stuff you mentioned that you don't find that suspicious at all.
I guess we can conclude that you're more likely to vote for someone on a technicality for word choice rather than odd behavior. That does not see to be indicative of alignment but that is what we can conclude.-
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In post 101, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:In post 85, Nero Cain wrote:Someone must guess my name by the end of day three.
Are you rumplestilskin?
...Yes, actually. That was surprisingly quick.
In post 91, MaxwellPuckett wrote:I for one, think that Archmage's being forced to speak in rhyme is hilarious, if that is the case. If this a ruse, I admire their dedication. Either way I don't find it that annoying.
Also, hi there. I don't know that much about Star Trek, but I spent about an hour on the wiki looking up DP9 stuff so I know the... basics? I hope it isn't required knowledge. I just like themes.
Archmage, can you tell us what will happen if we don't guess your name?
I actually wasn't forced to speak in rhyme, I was just forced to write those first two lines. My post restrictions were that I had to write those two lines at the top of all of my posts, and that I wasn't able to claim—both of which expired when someone guess my name.
Uh... Nothing, as far as I know. If something would have happened, I have no clue what it was.
In post 94, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Probably not. There've been plenty of wrong guesses.
I'm thinking it's his role name, and by that I mean his character. Or this is all bull. Fantastic bull. I'm just impressed by the rhyming. I think the first two lines that Archmage keeps repeating were provided by the mod, for sure (if this is real), but I can't tell if the rest of this stuff was also provided by the mod. I'm thinking no, based on the post you just quoted. I doubt Monkey would have that specific situation put there.
And THAT brings me right back 'roung to admiration. We are all in rhyming hell, now. Let's enjoy it!
Aw, thanks! I can go back to rhyming if you want, but I'd prefer to go without it.
Thank God I don't have to point out every inconsistency for your work choice because of the dichotomy style you chose to use. That is one less thing to try and figure out if you are trying to send secret messages or something.-
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In post 104, davesaz wrote:In post 101, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:In post 85, Nero Cain wrote:Someone must guess my name by the end of day three.
Are you rumplestilskin?
...Yes, actually. That was surprisingly quick.
In post 91, MaxwellPuckett wrote:I for one, think that Archmage's being forced to speak in rhyme is hilarious, if that is the case. If this a ruse, I admire their dedication. Either way I don't find it that annoying.
Also, hi there. I don't know that much about Star Trek, but I spent about an hour on the wiki looking up DP9 stuff so I know the... basics? I hope it isn't required knowledge. I just like themes.
Archmage, can you tell us what will happen if we don't guess your name?
I actually wasn't forced to speak in rhyme, I was just forced to write those first two lines. My post restrictions were that I had to write those two lines at the top of all of my posts, and that I wasn't able to claim—both of which expired when someone guess my name.
Uh... Nothing, as far as I know. If something would have happened, I have no clue what it was.
In post 94, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Probably not. There've been plenty of wrong guesses.
I'm thinking it's his role name, and by that I mean his character. Or this is all bull. Fantastic bull. I'm just impressed by the rhyming. I think the first two lines that Archmage keeps repeating were provided by the mod, for sure (if this is real), but I can't tell if the rest of this stuff was also provided by the mod. I'm thinking no, based on the post you just quoted. I doubt Monkey would have that specific situation put there.
And THAT brings me right back 'roung to admiration. We are all in rhyming hell, now. Let's enjoy it!
Aw, thanks! I can go back to rhyming if you want, but I'd prefer to go without it.
Hmm, nice effort. But this doesn't fit the DS9 theme like I would expect it to if it were legit. Anyone with more experience in theme games want to comment on that?
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Because I know you voted (admittedly I for got for who) and I wanted to know if you changed your vote or why you didn't change it yet.-
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This strikes me as a Role fish vote, correct me if I am wrong.-
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In post 105, Narninian wrote:I forgot about that episode. Strange choice of Character, though I suppose we should see some surprises.
Is this guy a policy lynch at some point?-
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In post 113, davesaz wrote:
Quote fail?
You never answered my questions. But I'll answer yours in hopes that you answer mine at a later point in time.
No, totally serious. Struck me silly for the reasoning behind the vote which I didn't get matching up to what else he had posted. Se my last few posts. I just want to see the real reason for the vote.-
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In post 117, davesaz wrote:Re: 114 My vote is RVS and I don't remember who it's on either. I never change it till I see something to actually think is scummy.
The post you quoted didn't give reasons, so it's difficult to tell what you're actually questioning.
I'm not necessarily questioning you at all. I simply want to know what kind of player you are. Your answer tells a lot about the kind of player you are.
In post 118, davesaz wrote:In post 116, LicketyQuickety wrote:Shy are people voting PB? I can only assume it is town doing it.
Why the special interest in votes on PB, and even more so why assume town motivation for the votes?
I was clear that it was an assumption. I didn't see "good" reasons for the vote. In Neros case I am going off that he gets bored with playing as mafia given his answer to my questionnaire.-
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In post 121, davesaz wrote:We both happened to be active, nothing more.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have no problem lying. Not because I think you have lied in this thread yet necessarily.-
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In post 123, Hostile Intent wrote:1. Accusations of role fishing.
2. Inquiries of policy lynching.
3. Posts are all sizzle, no steak.
1. It was not strong accusation and if it was an accusation I was more curious about the possibility of it being so. Did you even pay attention the dichotomy of the post?
2. And why does that merit a vote?
3. what does this even mean? I do a lot of weird stuff to see how people read me/vote me and that gives me info on a lot of things. If your expecting me to be completely linear and systematic and base what I do on observation alone you are sorely mistaken. And this does not mean I am scum whatsoever.-
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In post 127, Hostile Intent wrote:Delibird's post was a vote. You called it role fishing. There's nothing to misinterpret there.
Policy lynching isn't exactly a pro-town thing to advocate. And it came out of nowhere.
Your posts have no town motivation. You're saying random shit with fancy sauce.
You're probably scum, so.
His vote was a direct result of what was said by that player almost immediately after he said it. I didn't see the vote to be without reasoning whatsoever and I made guesses as to what that reason was. I still maintain that not everyone is strictly logical in their approach the game.
I never once advocated that a player be policy lynched. I was curious if/when that player has been policy lynched in the past and one way to find that out is to ask if there is a posibility for them to be policy lynched in this game. Care to explain why this makes me look like scum?
LOL I haveNOtown motivation. That's a new one. I will admit to be rather spontaneous, but only so I can explain later. You shot first and didn't ask questions. Noted. You're the type of player who would want to policy lynch me every game because you have not idea how to read me accurately at this point in time.
You are assuming way too much about me and I thrive off of that. If you are convinced I am scum by day 3, you will never be able to read me accurately. You are both overestimating me and underestimating me at the same time which is really weird if you ask me. You are assuming all I am doing is coming up with BS answers that are not true and are not at all seeing how I am playing a tactical strategic game rather than a systematic game based on observation.-
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In post 131, MaxwellPuckett wrote:In post 124, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 121, davesaz wrote:We both happened to be active, nothing more.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have no problem lying. Not because I think you have lied in this thread yet necessarily.
Way to accuse him of lying without properly accusing him. You quoted a post and said he's a liar, but you haven't said whether he's *necessarily* lying in that post. Do you think he is or don't you, why the quiffling?
I'm trying to get info and that is all. Why can't you people understand this strategy???-
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In post 134, davesaz wrote:In post 125, zabing12 wrote:The other party doesn't have to be active for you to tunnel.
VOTE: davesaz
Umm, evidently you aren't reading the same thread as I am. First off, a half dozen or so posts is in no way a tunnel. Secondly, I'm interacting with plenty of other people.
Your post, however, would make a fine chainsaw if Lickety turned up mafia. Noted for future reference.
I'm not even close to voting for you at this point fwiw.-
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In post 136, Senator wrote:In post 123, Hostile Intent wrote:1. Accusations of role fishing.
2. Inquiries of policy lynching.
3. Posts are all sizzle, no steak.
You're town.
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In post 129, MaxwellPuckett wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: zabing12, BTW.
Don't like your vote. Pushing inactive players is a waste of time of you're looking for interactions, so pushing actives makes sense. I don't think your vote is justified if that's your only reasoning.
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In post 139, Narninian wrote:WTF is with all this policy lynching Narninian nonsense.
No, I've never been policy lynched before not has it ever been suggested before this game.
Also, there is absolutely no reason to policy lynch me this game.
About LicketyQuickety:
Things I like:
Calling out HI on BS 'try hard' line
Trying to get conversation started and leave RVS out of the game
Things I don't like:
Calling a vote a Rolefish
Asking if I should be policy lynched for absolutely no reason
Talking about policy lynching him for no reason.
saying anything he does is fine because it gets information.
Constantly talking about how he is tactical and strategic.
The policy lynch idea comes from how you said you are very poor at trying to convince people you are not scum regardless of alignment. I had to inquire about this to get an idea of what that means exactly.
Why don't you like the idea that a Vote can be a Rolefish, its certainly possible isn't it? CDB hinted they don't always disclose all their reasoning for things and I thought what better way to find out what the vote meant bydoingsomething.
I never asked if youshouldbe policy lynched. I inquired if that was a possibility and that is all.
Policy lynching "Him." who is him? I think its just an accidental word mistake but still have to ask.
What if I were to say that i would provide my reasoning later if asked about it?
I meantioned my playstyle twice, I am hardly constantly mentioning it. I am a hard player to read so I take liberties to tell about my playstyle so people can read me better as town.-
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In post 140, Hostile Intent wrote:Your guess is inflammatory and a misrepresentation. Its an accusation to something it couldn't possibly have been, probably in an attempt to tread the waters of voting Delibird.
You didn't ask if he'd been PL'd. You simply asked if you could PL them. That's incredibly anti-town at best. There should be zero reason for "hey I wonder if he's ever been policy lynched before" much less "hey, who's up for policy lynching this guy?" before we even hit ten pages in a twenty-one player game.
I don't need to ask you a Goddamn thing. You wear your intentions on your sleeve and those intentions aren't great. You're scum.
You really need to learn how to quote people so its easier to follow who/what you are talking to/about.
I'm thinking its likely your scum at this point for being so sure I am scum
And yes, inflammatory and misdirection is my playstyle, thanks for noticing. I think I explained that I was trying to find info on the "I can't convince people I'm not scum" comment by Narn.
Ok, so what does PL mean again? I've never seen that before this game. I don't know anything about policy lynches or how often it happens which is another reason I asked about it.
If your so sure I wear my intentions on my sleeve, why are you wrong about your read on me?
Someone who is sure I am scum when I am town and they are town is not at all something that is new to me. I willing to guess that the person who made that same mitake has about 10+ years more experience than you in mafia, just fyi.-
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In post 143, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Lickety: At this stage you're my second FoS, not a great one though. I'm trying to figure out how to read you atm, so I wouldn't advocate for your lynch right now.
I don't like your answer about the lying thing, though. I still think that post sounds like you're trying to set yourself up to accuse him of lying later. There's poking to provoke a reaction, yes, but you poked at a personal trait of his. "You have no problem lying." That doesn't have anything to do with one specific game, that was a general statement about his play, or his personality, that I don't think has any place here. I also don't really agree with it, but that isn't the point I'm trying to make.
I don't know how much this will mean, as I've played exactly one game with Hostile before this, but their play is very similar to that last game. When they accuse people, they really accuse people. And I do agree with them about the lying guess, as I just said.
Much like the way glasses girl here accuses people relentlessly, it is similar in approach to my style to some extent. I will sometimes make weird claims to get a read on if that claim has merit and is worth exploring or not. Sorry Narn, I have to tell people about my playstyle because otherwise people will never know what the heck I am doing and this speeds up the process for people trusting my town game.
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In post 125, zabing12 wrote:The other party doesn't have to be active for you to tunnel.
VOTE: davesaz
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In post 145, Hostile Intent wrote:I don't need to learn to do anything because clearly you're keeping up. Thanks, though.
You're scum-reading me... for scum-reading you. OMGUS before the vote noted. So you're a ten-year veteran... but you don't know what PL means. Your pompous nature isn't going to drop my scum read on your slot. Actual scum hunting and providing content that isn't insipidly convoluted will. I've no qualms with being wrong. Thing is, though, that your LAMIST attitude doesn't convince me.
What OMGUS are you talking about? I am not a ten year veteran, I said there was a player who was an 18 year veteran who read me as mafia when they were town and I was town and they were willing to have one of us for sure get lynched for it and I mean she put herself on the line and put me on the line as well. It was a weird mechanic in the game that I played with her in that situation. I have only completed 6 games of forum mafia and my face-to-face experience is next to none. And yes, I have no idea what PL mean. Could you please tell me what it means? I guess you could say that in my total experience of being in mafia games, my scum hunting comes for myself looking suspicions. *shrug* And what the heck does "LAMIST" mean or stand for?
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In post 148, Hostile Intent wrote:Ah, I misintepreted that last bit. Duh me.
PL is short for policy lynch.
LAMIST is short for Look At Me I'm So Town.
You said you're scum-reading me for scum-reading you. You said that. That's OMGUS without the vote.
I'm waiting to see what others have to say about our interaction before I throw a vote in your direction. If you've been paying attention, I threatened a vote on someone else with my Unvote.-
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I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 159, Saint wrote:You have five votes bub
Yeah, I can read. I need 7 more to get lynched. Though I don't want to get lynched and I know it would be bad for town, I will both claim and provide prolly a pretty shitty reads list before the hammer vote.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 160, Sinsun1 wrote:In post 158, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 155, Saint wrote:I have a negative town role btw
Do you want to get lynched?
Let me quote something here so you know why this threat is soo newbish that I wish we both could go back in time so you could take those words back.
In post 156, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
LicketyQuickety[5] - Senator, Marcrell, MaxwellPuckett, HostileIntent, Saint
Saint[1] - davesaz
Sorry but that poor attempt at a threat with the rest of your weak posts this day. There are two options I see. New townie that will screw over town with his constant talking (should have taken my advice) or a new baddie who can't seem to figure out how to fly under the radar but instead starts pinging people in all the wrong ways.
You earned another vote from me.
UNVOTE: No Lynch
VOTE: Lickety
FP'd by Saint: Exactly. Now he has 6 because of his awful play style. Not sure if he's goodie or baddie at this point but the noobie goodie read I had earlier got demolished. Either way this lynch now benefits town either faction he flips.
Way to make a 180 on you 1st day policy on lynches.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 163, Saint wrote:Good. You should go read war and peace instead of spamming .
P edit : Way to quote a gigantic post to provide a one liner
If that's your idea of a gigantic post you have no idea what you are doing.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 165, Saint wrote:I've been playing six years . You? Way to be a dick to the entire thread thus far bro
Does debating elsewhere count? I understand you have been playing quite a while; I looked at your join date. So far you've given no info on your alignment and I've made people look either really scummy or innocent upon my lynch.
If you could explain exactly how I'm being a dick to the entire thread I would appreciate that.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 182, Saint wrote:But it's retarded to pl it and it indicates the presence of gf and dt
I'm inclined to believe your claim though I don't know off the top of my head what a miller is. To make this claim this early in the game with little to no tangible pressure indicates you are either doing some really tricky business or you are doing it for the benefit of town and expect to be NKed early.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 188, ChannelDelibird wrote:
You're wrong.
1) Why did you vote Narninian after me if you thought this?
2) Why did you unvote Narninian here?
It was a failsafe vote in the attempt to keep others from voting for him while putting added pressure on him to produce info. He saw through my vote and it was now doing nothing so I unvoted.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 192, ChannelDelibird wrote:In post 190, LicketyQuickety wrote:It was a failsafe vote in the attempt to keep others from voting for him while putting added pressure on him to produce info. He saw through my vote and it was now doing nothing so I unvoted.
Did you genuinely believe that your voting for someone, putting him at a positively moments-from-doom lynch-minus-nine, would dissuade others from voting for that person?
Did you find me suspicious for doing something that looked to you like I was rolefishing? Rolefishing is something that scum like to do, so they know who to kill.
That early in a game this big? yes.
I brought up a possibility that was not previously considered and it gave people the idea to keep their mind open to possibilities.
VOTE: Saint In before major bandwagon.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 196, ChannelDelibird wrote:In post 195, LicketyQuickety wrote:That early in a game this big? yes.
Lynch-9 is not a point at which anyone on this site is going to be scared of putting down another vote on someone. In fact, quite the opposite. Momentum is helpful early on. But mostly people just aren't going to think 'gosh, Lickety voted Narninian, now I'd better not, just to be safe'. So if your Saint vote right now is intended to stop a bandwagon forming on him, now would be a good time to realise that you're not Gandalf standing tall against the balrog of public opinion, you're just a dude who's using his vote in the opposite of how it ought to be used.
I brought up a possibility that was not previously considered and it gave people the idea to keep their mind open to possibilities.
You haven't actually answered the question. Did you think it was suspicious? Did the possibility of me rolefishing occur to you at the time of your vote on Narninian or was it something you wondered when rereading?
What do you think of me right now?
It was very early in the stage past RVS you have to admit. I don't think I have that much power with my vote on someone; I am only one person. How do you know my current vote is to keep people from voting that person? That is your claim at least. My vote serves multiple purposes which I will not say what all of them are at this time because then it would not serve its purpose in the way intended.
I have absolutely no read on you art this time. It was an after thought and the thought occurred to me of the possibility when I reread the thread. That's the answer you want right?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 210, LittleGumball wrote:kk so I'm trying to find literally any conversation without Lick in it (bc I want to try to read other people) and it's the hardest thing ever. From what I can see I like Hostile, I think they're probably town so far. As far as I know I'm okay with Maxwell. I'm wary of Sinsun because I find no lynches on Day One to be a complete waste of time (reading back, the immediate 3rd party assumption is a bit sketchy but I can see where he's coming from). I'm in agreement with Channel, I'd rather Lick be Vig'd than lynched, I was just thinking that earlier.
That's about all I can get a read for at this point.
I would really prefer to be lynched over vig killed. I am strong about that and I not going to give my reason now.
In post 216, Sinsun1 wrote:
Really?
Skim much?
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As far as the third party assumption, it really is not that far of a stretch. What happens if we didn't guess his name by Day 3 or he got killed before then? Do any of you stop and think the dangers of something so obvious? I am wary of his role as that is an oddity. What benefit does town get from guessing his role? Or better yet, what disadvantage does it put us at?
CDB quotes the question with a "I can see myself voting sinsun soon". Because nobody else actually thought about it? A game THIS size to not have some sort of 3rd party in play would be insane. Your guess is as good as mine as to which 3rd parties are in play and the host has even stated himself, a game this size, he may create his own roles separate from the wiki. So noted as not wanting anyone to analyze the fact that a 3rd party most likely exists.
All this talk about a vig and people hopping off so quickly. The point of votes is to initially get a CLAIM from a scummy player. Then if we deem their playing to be scummy compared to their claim then we go in for the lynch/vig.
Saint claiming Miller this early on with no real pressure? Noted and questioning motives there.
Also LQ... "failsafe vote to keep others from voting him". Your logic is so flawed it's almost a policy lynch at this point on you unless your claim is good I am staying on with my vote.
Those hoping off the LQ voting, obviously their reasons are not the same as mine. At this point LQ is either going to be a useful town PR or a dead man walking with his poor threats towards others.
FP'd 5 times: No Lynches Day 1 provides the max usage of PRs in the night. My question is, out of ALL of the games you've ever played, what is the percentage you've lynched mafia during Day 1 while being town? I assume it's under 50%. The chance of killing off a Town PR Day 1 in a game this size is much higher than 6-10 player games.
I find people who push Day 1 lynches turn out to be scum more often than not. Pressuring for a claim or 2 or if someone is SUPER scummy throughout the day (or town would be better off without them) then voting someone is fine. But to just random vote and hope to get mafia when you have no clue what sort of roles are in play, ha. I don't know how many times I've witnessed Doctor, Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Vig, Mason, etc being taken out Day 1 due to poor "reads". I'd prefer them getting some info in the night to use when they are being put up on the block the next day so we get at least SOME information to work with instead of complete WIFOM Day 1.
But if you're some superb scum hunter and have lynched mafia over 50% of your games Day 1, please link them all to me. I'd be glad to have such a pro scum hunter pushing for a Day 1 lynch. If you cannot produce that request, then kindly bugger off and realise we both have our own opinions on Day 1 lynches.
FP'd once more.
Excellent post minus the "Really" comment. What purpose does that serve? I also have problem with the huge appearent contradiction which was not explained one bit about how you are against 1st day lynches but vote me without being strong about how I did something all the sudden to warrant an exception to your view on first day lynches.
In post 224, Narninian wrote:day 1 lynches (at least here) don't just randomly happen.
It takes pressure to get to the point where somebody is actually in danger of being lynched.
If there are multiple wagons then it takes pressure for one to be picked over the other.
Mafia will be involved at some point and we get information.
No lynch is not something I'd agree to.
I see pretty much nothing wrong with this post. It is a very good way to show why 1st day lynches are a good thing.
In post 225, Hostile Intent wrote:Suisun, you're running with the assumption that's we're guaranteed to hit a PR. We're not. We're far more likely to hit a vanilla town, which isn't that big a loss and, again, affords us more information when we're late in the game.
And your under the assumption that we have VT in this game.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 241, ChannelDelibird wrote:LQ, if you are quoting a particularly long post, could you please in future either snip out the parts of it that you're not directly addressing or just link to it instead?
I'll be linking posts if I make a long response from now on granted I figure out the right way to do it.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 239, ChannelDelibird wrote:Wait, no, Jesus, I can't even read Memory Alpha coherently.
Saint, explicit yes or no answer: Is Marritza the person whom you are pretending to be?
PEDIT: You really should watch it, Saint. Although season 1 has its teething problems, your character's episode is fantastic and it grows to be the best Trek, IMO. This is the last time I will go on about how much I love the show, though. Promise.
Let the record show that your the first person to mention how a character role can reflect a alignment role.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 258, Saint wrote:Can we just catch scum and treat me as confirmed town for a bit ?? If we lynch all the scum I win with you guys and I am a fairly decent scumhunter
I can't remember if you have used the term yet in this thread but right now I am going to give an OMGUS on that. Its so obvious it doesn't even NEED to be stated.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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