mystery box of silver 15: i'm killing hostages (negotiated)

[Meuh]

VOTE: ofrhz
Good evening everyone

[Meuh]

{Doctor Drew}
{Meuh}
{Alisae}
{MUSHSHAGANA}
{DKKoba}
{Skygazer}

I was trying to greeting tell I shouldn’t be getting townreads

[Meuh]

I'm going to bed but it's likely when I wake up I'm probably still not going to give this game my full attention.
Feel free to make a bunch of posts and stuff, I'll just play from behind and have a big reading session when I want to sit down and get through. I'm pretty accustomed to doing this.

Here’s another post for you to read

[Meuh]

The posts are scummy tbh VOTE: Koba

[Meuh]

ok funny moment but i think ranger probably not rly that scummy after a little meta dive bc all they posted for a little bit in a town game was those readslists lmao


regardless,

VOTE: Alisae

I'm pretty sure that's NAI and just how Ranger posts? Did you check any scum games?

[Meuh]

actually looking this over, wtf are these reads lists


link to actual in game stuff pls

[meta]hi schadd just in case ranger is town, the reads lists that ranger has presented are objectively pretty scummy in nature, they are supposedly from early pages, however Meuh is somehow top 4 despite only having 4 posts and are similar in content to mine, however I was put at the bottom vs meuh. god bless tommy edman[/meta]

I really don't get this point? Players can make a similar amount/density of content and one can be townie and the other scummy? Or is this just an "objectively scummy" point you're making jokingly

[Meuh]

ok im just gonna park VOTE: ranger

this game's vibes are insufferable bc there is so much bad faith going around, impossible standards for slots being tunneled(yeah maybe think about whether the person you are pushing, if you applied the standards you are giving them to anyone else, how would you feel about that slot?), and no interactivity with anyone


also drew quite frankly, i am very insulted that you called my genuine reasoning not explaining anything.
the fuck am i supposed to say? i gave my genuine reason. accept it or dont, dont accuse me of not explaining anything just because you failed to comprehend what i said

I just honestly don't get where this frustration is coming from
I don't think people have been acting in bad faith? They just haven't approached the game or their read on you in the way you'd like them to

[Meuh]

Feels very scum being scumread for the "wrong reasons"

[Meuh]

curious that since my activity sharply picked up, not a single peep from people on my wagon on whether the new evidence has changed anything for them

some are just afk! others im just p sure are scum tbh

What new evidence lmao you're just calling your wagon bad and saying Ranger's approach to reads (which seems NAI to me) is scummy

[Meuh]

Like wow there sure are a lot of posts there that don't actually change my mind about anything in the slightest

[Meuh]

It's dawning on me that this back and forth is doing nothing for the game at hand, this little song and dance has gotten boring now.

At least make it look like a real fight at this point.

So real

[Meuh]

It's dawning on me that this back and forth is doing nothing for the game at hand, this little song and dance has gotten boring now.

At least make it look like a real fight at this point.

youre not helping with comments like this, go away unless you have something to contribute

I am contributing, this is such contrived theater between you two.

when have you ever seen theater like this? please link a game, i want to congratulate those players on being such great scum players.

viewtopic.php?t=89094
Literally the only scumgame I've seen you play had you do a bunch of theatre with your partner (Dwlee) early on that I fell for

[Meuh]

I'm sorry but Koba's complaining about people being bad faith when their points just do not seem genuine

[Meuh]

(Fwiw I'm not really convinced of Pooky's alignment either way, but I think brushing off the idea of Pooky/Koba being scum theatre doesn't rly make sense and Koba would obviously know it's theatre they're capable of)

[Meuh]

Good morning

[Meuh]

Brain hasn't absorbed much of what's been said (I will try again later)
Just wanted to say hello to my fellow townies

[Meuh]

correct

VOTE: cakez

bad entrance

This has to be a record of how fast I've managed to get a legit vote on me

If it wasn't already obvious I'm not gonna be taking this game too seriously

VOTE: pooky we can just get this out of the way now

Kinda just want to join the Koba wagon for the lols

IS CAKEZ TOWN?????
hmmmmmmmmm
lets find out later

probably is

[Meuh]

Oh Doctor Drew also town btw

[Meuh]

Sky and Meuh are somewhat towny to me on page 8

I can't imagine how bored you must be in real life to be entertained by baseball

like how many times can you watch the pitcher throw to first base to try to get the runner out before you're like wow what a bad sport

also whats the point of paying a pitcher 300 million dollars to throw a perfect game

thats like paying for things to not happen

there's something interesting happening 0.1% of the time, there can be highlights maybe, one per game ! It's also really fun to play its my favourite

...

It must be really sad watching a no hitter

It's enjoyable for exactly 1 person actually the pitcher is probably not having fun either sweating over every out

@HPE actually youre right, I would still sign up for that

is mt town???????

Wtf I literally checked her ISO, went back to thread thinking she looked town and immediately you posted this

[Meuh]

Yay like 10 new pages surely they are filled with enjoyable posts

[Meuh]

Drew still town, ofrhz town

[Meuh]

I think I'd be more tuned into this game if 90% of the posting wasn't terrible and also when I'm sleeping

[Meuh]

Blue's ISO looks pretty good to me tbh

[Meuh]

Like its approach to the game is definitely a bit odd but Blue seems like he's actively trying to solve I dunno

[Meuh]

I feel like there's enough concentrated scumminess in Koba/HPE that there's always a scum flip there

[Meuh]

I think I'd have a better grasp of Pooky if his ISO wasn't just composed of these dreadful back and forths

[Meuh]

I feel like there's enough concentrated scumminess in Koba/HPE that there's always a scum flip there

I think I'd have a better grasp of Pooky if his ISO wasn't just composed of these dreadful back and forths

You think my interaction with HPE and Koba could be scum theatre?

because like if one of those two is mafia there's pretty much no world in which I'm mafia with one of them.

PList is big enough and my understanding of the game is small enough for me to be fine with contradictory reads
I'm not someone who likes making full solves early on

[Meuh]

I'm not rly interested in a push on you anyways

[Meuh]

like I don't know if you can tell but by the end of last night I was livid because of the vast accumulation of insults thrown my way

that post where HPE accused me of being a "pig bastard" who is "gaslighting" koba was a real doozy

Yeah I'm aware

[Meuh]

ok so you don't think there is definitely one mafia in HPE/Koba

I think there are but I also don't feel enough confidence in my reads to clear you off of it and I'd rather have individual towniness from you than "Pooky is unlikely to be aligned with these players I find scummy (but whom I don't know their alignment)"

[Meuh]

Done reading this game is kinda wack lots of walls blended together for me. Basically I agree with the two Alisae SRs to kill BlueSnek and Koba for now but I wouldn't say I necessarily TR Ali yet. I feel like there are definitely some wolves operating in broad daylight this game (if that makes sense lol) and being manipulative and I'm not sure who looks trustworthy yet.

if you think the people ali is pushing is scum, then you should think ali is town. the cogdis should.. maybe tell u something

Which is also why I liked this Cakez post and disliked Koba's response here because his mentality is something I relate to

[Meuh]

Unless I'm willing to hedge the game on my read that there must be scum in Koba/HPE (I'm rarely confident enough to do that) then I'm not willing to clear you off of it

[Meuh]

Maybe I could find you positionally more likely to be town but I'd want at least some sort of grasp on your alignment individually

[Meuh]

I feel like there's enough concentrated scumminess in Koba/HPE that there's always a scum flip there

im sorry that logic is scummy to you

Spoiler:

[Meuh]

VOTE: Alisae

[Meuh]

ISO kinda bad

[Meuh]

"ISO kinda bad"
"Hey Meuh what's your reasoning for your read on me, elaborate on it"
*No answer*
"Okay so here's why your read on me is fundamentally wrong and your approach to reading me is horrendous despite you not even explaining the read (basically scumreading me is so bad that it inherently mean you're doing a horrible job at trying to read me)"

[Meuh]

Look for the things wolf players actually do instead of “eww, I DISLIKE this iso so I have to think it’s mafia” and “this player is mafia because I these not alignment indicative reasons are alignment indicative because I don’t play mafia very often so I don’t know what wolves actually do but wolves totally post the way ali is posting lmfao”

Also this is the exact reflection I had on Koba which made me mellow out on them and want to look elsewhere for scum

[Meuh]

Reads in mafia are such a subjective thing that the idea that scumreading you here is like, this fundamentally terrible act is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while

[Meuh]

Especially when you admit you're posting for yourself

[Meuh]

Oh!

[Meuh]

It kinda makes sense but also wouldn't have been my pick

[Meuh]

Drew's been one of the most obvious townies imo

[Meuh]

Snake do you wanna jump on the Alisae wagon with me?

[Meuh]

We could be townie besties

[Meuh]

Yeah I can agree to that

[Meuh]

Tbh I thought there would just not be any homeruns all game

[Meuh]

-1 snek voter btw

Bulge voted snek -> voting snek made him scummy -> the vote was bad -> snek is townie

[Meuh]

Also pooky is gone
Koba is mafia

The only person I want to play with is meuh and I can probably find another occasion to do that.

Maybe I just don’t care anymore
/shrug
Bye

Oh
Thank you
I wanna play together with u 2 I don't think we did since my very first game on site? (Which kinda has a sour taste now so I wanted to play another game with you since you were cool )

[Meuh]

I know it sounds (and probably is) counter-intuitive) but I kinda just wanna flip the high posters
More info on flip + shakes up the gamestate more (which we need, I think there's several players who've had a hard time engaging with the game in its current state, including me)

[Meuh]

Snake do you wanna jump on the Alisae wagon with me?

Sure. VOTE: Alisae

Oh yay! I didn't think it'd be that easy
Maybe I should ask people to jump on wagons with me politely more often

[Meuh]

-1 snek voter btw

Bulge voted snek -> voting snek made him scummy -> the vote was bad -> snek is townie

i think even tho i think snek is town i think this logic wont work and that schadd wouldnt spew scum based on who they suspected *until* there were flips.

Oh this was a joke
I think Alisae's point was "hey look here, a townie voting for snek, maybe snek is scum/the snek wagon is townlead" which I thought was weak so I responded to it with flimsy logic saying the opposite

[Meuh]

I know it sounds (and probably is) counter-intuitive) but I kinda just wanna flip the high posters
More info on flip + shakes up the gamestate more (which we need, I think there's several players who've had a hard time engaging with the game in its current state, including me)

also radical idea: pooky slot

Checks the info box but not the gamestate box since he's gone
We could save Schadd the trouble of getting a replacement though!

[Meuh]

Pooky flip definitely advances the gamestate and that's something we desperately need, if that's where we're headed I'm okay with it

[Meuh]

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{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

Everyone from the BlueSnakelet tier above, I'm quite sure is town. Let's purge those below.

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

I mean half of the list is currently voting for Alisae (and are the entirety of that wagon's composition) so if you're looking for somewhere to vote...

[Meuh]

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{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

Everyone from the BlueSnakelet tier above, I'm quite sure is town. Let's purge those below.

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

I mean half of the list is currently voting for Alisae (and are the entirety of that wagon's composition) so if you're looking for somewhere to vote...

I'm pretty confident on Drew being town, Cakez too!
Snake's given me some good town vibes but not rly anything that strong.
Skygazer is REALLY good at coasting on vibes and being funny as scum from what I've seen, and I want a bit more substantial content from him to feel comfortable sorting. The setup spec was cool, but is also really easy posting for scum to make. There's been more good game content from them than in scum games in general though, so I do generally feel good about Skygazer at this point. I'm fine with letting her stick around for a while at the very least, cause I think she'll be sortable later.
Koba I'm kinda leaning town on? But I also don't rly disagree with Cakez' idea that limming Koba would improve gamestate (for the same reasons I've mentioned wanting to lim high posters earlier), I do have concerns of the game not being over at that final 9 or whatever and scum!Koba just sweeps at this point, even if only with like 1 or 2 partners
HPE idk at this point
and I have literally 0 thoughts on MUSHSHAGANA at this point and should probably ISO there.

[Meuh]

Okay yeah MUSHSHAGANA is just town, cool

[Meuh]

I'll just claim.

I have an 1-Shot ability that makes one mafia player become elegible to be killed as a hostage during the following Day (from the next town excecution until the next

next

town execution).

Oooh, cool!

[Meuh]

That's the kind of stuff I was more expecting to see with influence on the hostage kill, less dead people being able to influence it

[Meuh]

Oooooh juicy

[Meuh]

Is the hood empty right now or can someone back you up on that?

[Meuh]

Town reads?

[DkKoba, SirCakez, MUSHSHAGANA, Ranger, Skygazer, Doctor Drew slot, Pooky slot]

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

The overlap in your townreads and Ranger's is noticeable so... are you in support with Ranger's plan? If you're an innocent townie then you should be more than willing to sacrifice yourself for the greater good!!!
The only people you don't townread there are me/Snake/HPE, I think from your POV this is a pretty fantastic way to go

[Meuh]

I’m not saying that’s the case necessarily but I’m becoming increasingly curious what scum has to both fight against the town-sides central mechanic plus the apparently town roles that can influence the mechanic further in town’s favor

There’s gotta be something, right?

Also yeah I agree with this, this setup with no power roles is pretty townsided, the home run mechanic helps scum but not enough to compensate IMO.
Scum probably have some significant power to counteract this? Which also probably points to speedlimming being good, it limits power usage (and avoids more home runs), though it's also kinda boring

[Meuh]

Town reads?

[DkKoba, SirCakez, MUSHSHAGANA, Ranger, Skygazer, Doctor Drew slot, Pooky slot]

This game is nightless.

MUSHAGANA:

HighPrincessErinys:

Meuh:

SirCakez:

DKKoba:

Skygazer:

BlueSnakelet:

Doctor Drew:

With us all voting together, we have enough votes to purge everyone not-us. If we do this rapidfire one after another, then we instantly eliminate most or all of the scum. We have the numbers where even if the list contains 4 scum, we don't lose. Unless you think all five scum are in my list here, we don't lose by purging those outside.

Let's get some speedwagons going.

It literally doesn't matter who we wagon, as long as it's not someone in this list.

The overlap in your townreads and Ranger's is noticeable so... are you in support with Ranger's plan? If you're an innocent townie then you should be more than willing to sacrifice yourself for the greater good!!! :good: :good: :good:
The only people you don't townread there are me/Snake/HPE, I think from your POV this is a pretty fantastic way to go :mrgreen:

The more I think about this the more it's true... if someone walked up to me and was like
"Hey Meuh :) would you like the final 9 players in the game to consist of 6 out of 7 of your townreads alongside 3 other people?" I'd accept that in a HEARTBEAT, and I'm saying this as someone who lacks confidence in her reads in general.

[Meuh]

Alisae (4):
DkKoba, Meuh, HighPrincessErinys, BlueSnakelet, iamveryhappy

@Mod what's up with this?

[Meuh]

I’m like fine with it

I wish HPE wasn’t in there mostly but it’s a fine plan

I really just want to lim anyone at this point, and quickly

Jump on the Alisae wagon we can get it through

[Meuh]

We can get MT and Pooky slot after and do two birds one stone, suddenly we only need one replacement

[Meuh]

Only two more!!!! cmon we can do it

[Meuh]

wait 3

[Meuh]

point stands

[Meuh]

vague trs on the following players so far

Skygazer

DkKoba

MUSHSHAGANA

ofrhz

HighPrincessErinys

SirCakez

PookyTheMagicalBear

Ranger

Dannflor

i could probably vote alisae

Those are 6 of the 8 players in the proposed towncore (that are not you)

[Meuh]

Also hi STD you're town yay :3

[Meuh]

schadd has bad reads

[Meuh]

E-2!!!! One more vote and then

N_M

Mushsha can hammer
Pedit: Yeah there's some parts of the game that aren't really worth reading :/

[Meuh]

i already have more posts than morning tweet so that slot can be limmed too

Yeah we probably just do MT next

[Meuh]

Woooooooooooooooooo

[Meuh]

What's an extoller?

[Meuh]

VOTE: Morning Tweet

[Meuh]

Bloc A best bloc

[Meuh]

so pooky/orf/mush/xyzzy/sheep/mt are unvotable / cant use their votes it seems.

What

[Meuh]

I'm pretty sure we can vote out of blocs

[Meuh]

Otherwise the game will literally never end

[Meuh]

You're misreading it lmao

[Meuh]

You can vote outside of your bloc but the bloc as a whole will always vote for the most popular target amongst voters in the bloc

[Meuh]

It influences how we vote but not who can be voted

[Meuh]

@Mod can you clarify please

[Meuh]

You can vote outside of your bloc but the bloc as a whole will always vote for the most popular target amongst voters in the bloc

i dont see your MT vote so i think mine is correct?

I'm more leaning towards Schadd not being a time traveller, and therefore my vote made after the vote count wouldn't be in it?
Pedit:

[Meuh]

I do agree that this is probably something that scum had control over though

[Meuh]

ofrhz called me funny though

[Meuh]

in a good way or a bad way?
I'm interested in how you want to stop the purge here, care to explain about it other than citing the compliment?

In a good way
I don't wanna stop the purge, I do have a townlean there but it's not super strong and I want to go through with the plan

[Meuh]

That makes sense

[Meuh]

Meuh sell me on my Bloc buddy.

Uhhh MT is flakey and doesn't post as scum so MT scum
also we save the mod a replacement

[Meuh]

I mean we have to get this lim out of the way at some point so why are we not just speedlimming MT

[Meuh]

+ we get the bloc mechanic out of the way

[Meuh]

Hammering does sound fun

[Meuh]

Meh I don't feel super great about this but the wagon has some solid townies on there so

[Meuh]

VOTE: BlueSnakelet

[Meuh]

If this flips red that smells like a partner hammer tbh

Too true

[Meuh]

I'm too bloodthirsty not to hammer there

[Meuh]

RIP Ranger's towncore, it lasted a very long time

[Meuh]

Honestly I should just not check the thread for like 12 hours after a hammer happens

[Meuh]

am i gonna get the happy chemical??

We're in desperate need after the Alisae green flip

[Meuh]

Brought out the colour and everything????? It has to be true

[Meuh]

This one might be too trusting of Meuh based on vibes and also maybe being an FE fan, desperately need to actually dive into and analyze her ISO some.

I started a Path of Radiance ironman, was doing well, and then lost Mia on her joining chapter

[Meuh]

I can see why people disliked Drew's approach, but I also think his posting was transparently townie

[Meuh]

We're too good at this game

[Meuh]

[Meuh]

Basically whenever 7 people in bloc A vote together, that's the lim

[Meuh]

I think this mech favours scum more than the last one so we should just lim MT
Pedit: Timing

[Meuh]

VOTE: Morning Tweet

[Meuh]

Oooooooh

[Meuh]

I am positively jubilant!

[Meuh]

OKAY MAYBE THIS SETUP ISN'T TOWNSIDED ACTUALLY

[Meuh]

I THOUGHT THIS GUY WAS DEFENSIVE??? THIS DOESN'T SEEM DEFENSIVE

[Meuh]

If you think I'm scum then just let me bus my entire team and then deal with me afterwards

[Meuh]

Also

Reread Meuh’s ISO

Look at who she pushes and especially how she interacts with BlueSnake.

Meuh is one of the biggest advocates of Ranger’s purge plan, and also calls for just eliminating the top posters, which makes sense from a scum perspective if her partners are all in the pool I outlined

Also, the top posters have largely been confirmed as town barring Koba and Ranger who are at least consensus town reads

My plan to eliminate the top posters helped advance the gamestate in a way I'm satisfied with

[Meuh]

Snake's given me some good town vibes but not rly anything that strong.

Stauch defense

[Meuh]

Also if the entire scum team is in your pool, then I'd have to 2v7 after the purge happened (with Snake), those odds don't sound great? Why would I be supportive of the purge

[Meuh]

1679 is a post I made 30 seconds before voting for Snake, you can't be serious

[Meuh]

Also if the entire scum team is in your pool, then I'd have to 2v7 after the purge happened (with Snake), those odds don't sound great? Why would I be supportive of the purge

pretty sure these are your best odds if your teammates are MT and sheep

That scumteam sounds painful, you're right actually

[Meuh]

Though tbh I don't see ofrhz vs Snake happen as a S/S thing if their teammates are other people in that pool

[Meuh]

If they have 1 or 2 well anchored teammates then maybe?

[Meuh]

Ayeeeeeeeeeeee

[Meuh]

bloc c

not voting (2):

Dannflor, Meuh

I love this game

[Meuh]

I'd be cool with that

[Meuh]

I can agree with that, let's give Tommy a chance to do his thing and if he doesn't after a few days we can just lim someone normally

[Meuh]

That's a WILD fucking solve considering ofrhz voted Ranger and Snakelet voted ofrhz.

ofrhz is town I’ve been saying this !!!

[Meuh]

1679 is like a really awkward way to reconcile Meuh's read up to that point. I don't think town!Meuh who scum reads ofrhz but town reads Blue Snakelet would reasonably decide to vote Blue over ofrhz when the vote was split 2/2 inside her own bloc.

My whole stance on orfhz/Snakelet was that they’re both town
That was also a motivator for voting Snakelet there, the alternative was someone I found slightly townier

[Meuh]

Drew still town, ofrhz town

ofrhz called me funny though

in a good way or a bad way?
I'm interested in how you want to stop the purge here, care to explain about it other than citing the compliment?

In a good way
I don't wanna stop the purge, I do have a townlean there but it's not super strong and I want to go through with the plan

[Meuh]

STD should always live to endgame

[Meuh]

VOTE: ofrhz

[Meuh]

This flips town btw

[Meuh]

Pretty sure my vote was hammer

[Meuh]

Oh

[Meuh]

Sicko mode seems bad

[Meuh]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm gut

[Meuh]

VOTE: RCE

[Meuh]

This one likes Meuh so it'll go with RCE first, but there's a reasonable chance she's the deepwolf in question.

VOTE: RCE

I feel like I'd be a pretty shallow wolf? But I guess I'd be the Mariana Trench compared to the people we've flipped so far

[Meuh]

Awe I wanted a spicier take

[Meuh]

Anyway, you don't need my vote for RCE.

But the quicker RCE gets limmed the less time there is for Tommy to kill us all

[Meuh]

Nah I disagree at this point in the game honestly. Earlier on I think it made sense to just have the POE narrowed and be able to gauge some obvious wolves based on who got killed, but at this point we have up to 9 (I think? We're 11 so that would be 9 until final 2) kills that can hit scum and we should maximize the amount of them that go through

[Meuh]

There was some merit in the modkills earlier in the game but at this point we should just choose "kill from which scum can die" over "kill from which scum can't die" every time

[Meuh]

Even with the point on LHF, if you think clearing them out is neutral/positive:

schadd has bad reads

it's just not worth taking the risk here

[Meuh]

I just don't think we should get complacent. The quiet gamestate and potentially losing a bunch of townies to Edman is like, our main path to a loss and getting a lim through helps with both of those things?

[Meuh]

I don't disagree on gamestate. But an Edman dinger-spree is

unlikely

. And again,

if

town is dependent on my vote in a 1v10, it means town is fragmented as hell and getting agreement is going to be pulling teeth anyway. I might as well put that weight behind my preference.

The thing is that both of those "ifs" point to scenarios in which town is in a bad state: the main scenarios in which we actually have a shot at losing. We should aim to make the game as winnable as possible in those scenarios. In the good scenarios, your vote doesn't matter but nothing does cause we win anyways! In the bad scenarios it does matter and pushes us in a good direction (which you've agreed with me on), so you should vote.

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A preference that, I will remind you, is what you specifically requested. You said what you wanted and that's what you got, and now you don't like it. That's definitely not my problem.

This is just unhelpful. :/

I figured there was a good chance I was the gutread in question but I wanted a fresh view of the game, some new wind in the discussion. I suppose a scumread on me is more revolutionary than one on RCE but it's not really the shakeup I was looking for anyways.
I'm fine with being limmed at some point (there's enough scumreads on me to justify it) but that's irrelevant to me wanting you to vote RCE. Your gut could be telling you it's Dannflor and I'd still be nudging you to vote RCE cause it's just +town to do in this gamestate

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Oh yay we did it !!!

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meuh when/if you see this your pfp is very good

Thank you!!! Yours is also beautiful

Spoiler: my wild ass guess for the last 3 scum

meuh
ranger
std

This team would've been really fun actually I wish this was real

i read like 10 meuh posts and i would townlock her

I brought back the obvtown 2021 Meuh energy for this game but you're the only one who saw it

i read like 10 meuh posts and i would townlock her

she's a lot townier when she's mafia

too true

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damn i wanted it to keep going

I had a scumread on you simmering, the day 9 tinfoil would've been fantastic