Newbie 1381 Oakhaven is Overrun Game Over

[jmo16mla]

Hello all! I'm your IC or inexperience challenged player. It means that I've played a few games on site and have been here on mafia scum for a specific amount of time. If you've got any game related questions, feel free to ask me.

VOTE: honey bee
I don't like bees.

[jmo16mla]

Thane, why didn't you place a vote?

[jmo16mla]

"...."

How is replacing someone suspicious? The original person never picked/confirmed their role PM. I really doubt that's shows any relevance to alignment.

Where is it said he didn't pick his role PM?

As I said, if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask me.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: greywing

[jmo16mla]

So you're voting grey wing because you don't understand his vote? Is that all?

[jmo16mla]

He voted without stating why or anything. Upon my vote, he answered as to why he voted you.

[jmo16mla]

That's because this is what's called the Random Voting Stage, as it was mentioned before.

It helps break the ice, but leaves scum time to settle in and crack jokes. Overall RVS doesn't help town because generally, town isn't scumhunting in RVS.

Why did you unvote? I greywing's slot no longer suspicious to you?

[jmo16mla]

Maybe my reasoning was deemed better? You think it was unfair that you were questioned, and not me?

[jmo16mla]

Why are

you

voting Greywing, Jmo?

Although, I beleive mala addressed my vote here. So I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

[jmo16mla]

Oh, my RVS vote. I don't think you're quite understanding RVS. During RVS, you typically come up with some sort of reason to vote someone, as I did. Or mala did saying that fate brought us together.

[jmo16mla]

It just sounded like you were serious bout your vote. Unlike the rest of us.

[jmo16mla]

I never said you didn't have a reason, you had mentioned mine and others reasoning as silly, so I felt the need to explain why that was the case. Have you ever played mafia before?

[jmo16mla]

Well hello there fellows.

Glad to see that I missed the truly silly part of RVS and get to make some comments on what has happened so far.

I like the way Malakittens handled the Luigi vote and Jmo'a subsequent questioning. I think Luigii is just being a little overzealous in this Jmo conversation. I am a bit confused as to why Jmo seems to think the best answer to a vote with no explanation is ANOTHER vote with no explanation.

Also, a quick note to Jmo: I know you're an IC, so can you try to keep the double posts to a minimum?

The only other thing I have to comment on right now is #24. Mothrax seems to be coaching here, asking a question of grey and then giving him a road map of sorts to give the right answer to pull early attention off of him. So, I will semi-randomly yet still informed

Vote: Mothrax

I was waiting for him to reply "what's the reason for your vote?" To where I would ask him the same thing. This would make him realize, oh maybe I should explain my votes.

[jmo16mla]

So you're saying you intentionally did that to get us out of RVS?

[jmo16mla]

Typically I don't give out town reads. And to be honest, I don't have town reads in any games. Everyone is scum until they are dead.

[jmo16mla]

I'm sorry I'm late!

I'll catch up soon, although there isn't too much to catch up on.

Sounds good.

Grey, sounds good.

[jmo16mla]

That's just how I've always played.

[jmo16mla]

he JUST posted.. hah.

Yeah he posted in the thread after I prodded him so still counts as a prod... Rach

[jmo16mla]

I'm going to re read these first few pages. often, they are very helpful when picking up early tells.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: thane

You haven't taken any stances, placed a vote or anything of that nature.

[jmo16mla]

Not using your vote is anti town.

Ludgi, how do you feel about thane?

[jmo16mla]

I have played mafia in real life but never via forum, I am used to beig able to rely on expressions and tone. I'm not quite sure where I go from here with progressing advice. Can one of the ICs explain this to me? Also, I fail to see how it is anti town not to use a vote

I'm the one and only IC here(;

There aren't many 100% reliable scum reads if any.

It's all about someone's play. Scum can't scum hunt since they already know who town is and who their scum partner(s) are. Typically scum like to jump from wagon to wagon to he someone lynched. If someone is very passive and not taking a side, they could possibly be scum. This is a scum tell because scum don't want to be forced to choose one or the other, for the most part, they want to make everyone happy. Staying passive also keeps scum available to jump on any wagon, as they don't always have definite reads.

It takes a while, some faster than others to fully understand people's playstyles and develop good scum hunting skills.

[jmo16mla]

@mala: why call out luigi and not jmo? He's voting thane for the same reasons...

Because I vote him first?

[jmo16mla]

I had him voted before he explained anything. Luigi, on the other hand voted him after.

[jmo16mla]

I don't know if luidgi's slot is scum. Don't really know why he replaced out though.

[jmo16mla]

Welcome to the game replacements!

I'm the only IC in this game. Once you type up your reply, jus hit the preview button and above the text box that you type in, your message will appear like it will once you post it in game.

Does that answer your question?

@thane, how was me questioning luidgi's about another player qualify as coaching?

[jmo16mla]

Nah, thane can still be scum. Why does my vote bother you?

[jmo16mla]

I think you missed the part where he said maybe too good..

[jmo16mla]

Where did I say it was a pressure vote?

[jmo16mla]

No. He wasn't contributing, and not taking any stances. Typical of newer scum.

[jmo16mla]

Why are you so concerned?

[jmo16mla]

You're saying mafia would be more up to date with the VC than town?

I'm trying to figure out if the amished tell would be in effect here.

As I was looking through earlier to get some opinions I found myself with a +1 or 2 scummy on Luigi... and then realised I'd subbed in for same

[jmo16mla]

I didn't even notice he had voted me. Lol

Are you voting me because I didn't have any votes?

[jmo16mla]

You must have missed this?

No. He wasn't contributing, and not taking any stances. Typical of newer scum.

Where am I answering questions with a question? I believe I answered her question, and I questioned her motives for her questions after that.

[jmo16mla]

Do you think he is own?

Why should I vote you?

Also, the amished tell is when a replacement calls their slots earlier player, scummy.
That person, is scum a good bit of the time.

[jmo16mla]

It's more difficult being an IC you know, being my first time and all, even harder. Most people on site don't like other people going to your posts and seeing if they are posting in other games. I'm one of them. I post when I feel like I can contribute to the game. Otherwise, I post fluff. Fluff isn't good for town. Plus, using other ongoing games as evidence is breaking the main rule on MS and could result in a modkill.

Quality>quantity.

[jmo16mla]

No, referencing ongoing games posting, isn't modkill material. I just said that using other games could be. I didn't want him to begin linkin other games and such and have him mod killed or something for that reason.

I warn people before I would modkill them.... Modkilling is not something mods like having to do. In this case so far no one has committed a modkillable offense. I recommend reading the rules link (there is a button for it in the top right).... Plus of course my rule set on page 1. Follow those and there will be no problem... Rach

[jmo16mla]

I'm an easy lynch is never ever ever a good thing to say. Making excuses for poor play is a bad habit.

whos scum?

[jmo16mla]

tybalt: I want to know what you think of jmo, actually, and not because of any subtext but because he needs some attention. Lives are at stake.

Here is my clear, unbiased opinion on JMO and I am not going to read any other people's opinions of JMO before I say this.

JMO, upon isolation, seems to be trying to withhold from saying anything provocative- trying to stay out of the spotlight if you will.
Has reservations on doing, well, anything.
Post #43 seems to be weird, and another attempt to continue to not provoke anyone. If anyone has played with JMO and knows he is like this every game then I will retract that.
Also #107, the reason for why JMO is voting ThaneArvan, seems sort of like what JMO is doing

Ok, wow. VOTE: JMO

[jmo16mla]

tybalt: I want to know what you think of jmo, actually, and not because of any subtext but because he needs some attention. Lives are at stake.

Here is my clear, unbiased opinion on JMO and I am not going to read any other people's opinions of JMO before I say this.

JMO, upon isolation, seems to be trying to withhold from saying anything provocative- trying to stay out of the spotlight if you will.
Has reservations on doing, well, anything.
Post #43 seems to be weird, and another attempt to continue to not provoke anyone. If anyone has played with JMO and knows he is like this every game then I will retract that.
Also #107, the reason for why JMO is voting ThaneArvan, seems sort of like what JMO is doing

Ok, wow. VOTE: JMO

So if I do this in my scum games and town games, whats that mean?
Where the hell has everyone seen me a aiding conflict? I'm the one who questioned the hell out of people in the beginning. Half of the people playing got replaced and the activity really died out. That's my worst enemy.

[jmo16mla]

Talah, why didnt you have him voted before? And why did you pick him instead of me?

Why would it suck that I'm scum my first time being IC? I don't mind playing either alignment so I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at there.

It's best we don't make associative tells, before we have a flip. That encourages ligning up mislynches down the road.

[jmo16mla]

Because that really changes the way I think about the game.

[jmo16mla]

Rach can you update the first post! I've lost track who everyone has replaced.

Also, my scum read, isn't an RVS reason. Where the hell did you get that from?

[jmo16mla]

I'm not seeing your questions...

[jmo16mla]

That sounds like scum.

Why don't you go up there and look at the last VC and go from there instea of trying to gain town credit by saying you'll wait?

[jmo16mla]

But f you're that concerned about it, why wouldn't you go look? You seemed pretty adamant about voting me.

[jmo16mla]

Honey bee, i questioned him because with my reason for calling him scummy. You missed that?

[jmo16mla]

If you saw it, why did you discount it as no analysis?

[jmo16mla]

Wait, he is that slots replacement? Hahaha! This is great. That slot is scum.

[jmo16mla]

I'm not tunneling!?!?! I think he is scum. He needs to be lynched.

[jmo16mla]

Will post tonight. Busy atm

[jmo16mla]

Because between work and school, I'm overloaded. You're voting me because I'm uncommitted?

Okay. So, in case I do get to L-1, it is proper to ask for me to claim my role. This is done to prevent town from lynching a PR.

[jmo16mla]

Then why vote me if you expect me to claim PR?

[jmo16mla]

Not sure.

[jmo16mla]

That's not my concern. My concern is finding scum.

[jmo16mla]

Even as scum I I'm better than this. This is just bad play on my part right now. Il make it up to you guys.

[jmo16mla]

How do you know he has found scum?

[jmo16mla]

I'm not seeing a situation?

[jmo16mla]

i dont even know whos who.

[jmo16mla]

uoyeluri

Fropome*

vacant

ThaneArvan *

Gen_Wolf
Honey bee

Luigilewis889

talah
tybalt
mothrax (SE)
Malakittens (SE)

FSnake (SE)

Greywing
jmo16mla (IC)

Okay, got it.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: mala

Care to dance?

[jmo16mla]

Morthax is scum.
Trust me on this one

VOTE: morthax

How is my vote bad? You keep bringing up me using the ic excuse, I said it was difficult.

You're pushing non reasons that don't point me towards being scum and I'm not liking it.

At all.

[jmo16mla]

Um. Please, look at morthax. Not me.

Look at the reasoning for her last vote.

I don't even understand the reasoning for YOUR vote.

[jmo16mla]

I think that was a couple votes off, since Tybalt and I changed votes at the last L-2.

VOTE: JMO

Yeah, so why all the sudden change?

[jmo16mla]

No. There is no intent to hammer me. Why would I need to claim?

You just had a brilliant reason to vote who? Thane? Now it's back on me?

[jmo16mla]

I voted mala to pressure her? Never said she's defo scum.

Your play has been bad mothrax. And I read. Kay.

I suggest no one vote me because I'm at l-1

This is some shit. I don't have time to deal with your ignorant accusations. ALL OF THEM ARE ABOUT ME BEING THE IC. You're really pissing me off.

It's pretty easy to call scum out when you're getting Waggoned because you see when people jump on you for shit reasons. JUST. LIKE. YOU. DID. I've called scum correctly in this very manner, many times, so stop trying to discount my claim for calling you scum.

[jmo16mla]

Please check before voting.

On you shut up. You already told people I'm at l-2 so vote me, you can't retract that.

I'm going take my father to the hospital. I'd rather NOT be hammered by then.

[jmo16mla]

I'm pretty sure you're at L-2. I'm voting because of no scumhunting, no threadreading, which you'd know if you read the thread.

Why not just claim? Rather than drag it out?

Because claiming, is anti town.

[jmo16mla]

Okay. I'm going to iso everyone tonight and go from there. No excuses.

Yes, we have short time but even if I'm lynched I think town can fare well and win.

[jmo16mla]

That's why I questioned who? Thane? I knew it was with a t. It was on the previous page and I've been phone posting. Kay.

[jmo16mla]

At least I've me time to iso everyone. Damn. Why are you in such a hurry to mislynch?

[jmo16mla]

Morthax's vote was highly opportunistic. He had absolutely no insight on why I voted mala, yet he calle it a terrible reason. Everyone, where did I state a reason for my vote before mothrax's vote? Exactly. He tried to justify his vote on me hoping no one would notice his bad reasoning. Il continue my case tonight.

[jmo16mla]

I haven't given up yet bud. Hold on.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: mala

Care to dance?

This vote is really really bad.

Vote: JMO

That's

l-1

This vote makes no sense. NONE. Someone tell me how its a bad vote, if you dont know the reasoning behind it? Its funny how from 163, i go from kinda scummy. 3rd on his list. He then lurks off, and comes back with the above post.

He also throws in this

I feel like JMO has made a lot of excuses for his play without doing anything about it. He is tunneling and not really contributing and he is blaming activity and first time ICing... Lots of other people manage to IC just fine their first time while playing to their wincon... I can even dig up my old one if I must... but I would look to people like Nachomamma and Thor...

Tunnling was already brought up by mala. when i clearly wasn't tunneling. Then again, is tunneling a scum tell?
I've contributed over three times more than you post wise.
I feel like i let people down being the IC this game, I haven't played my best.
So, you bring up Nacho and Thor being able to be the IC just fine? You pick one of the two best players on the site to put me against? Then again, where does me being an IC having trouble, have to do with me being scum?

Now, as everyone sees, Morthax has no reason to vote me besides the fact that he is scum and tried to find a smooth way onto my wagon.

He jumped from his top scum read Grey, here:

I've been pretty straight forward about my scum reads. Grey an Talah are my top two.

To here right before he voted me:

I'm still happy with my reads.

What happened to grey right here? you just, didn't mention him anymore even though you are still happy with your reads. SURELY you had some questions for your top scum read eh? or did he just disappear when you saw that you could hop onto my wagon?

Mothrax is scum. Vote him people. we have short time.

[jmo16mla]

False. So many quick votes and unvotes flying around and I missed them. I looked at the last Votecount and reskimmed the few pages and thought it was l-1. I wasn't pushing for a claim and in fact never even said "JMO claims" I stated l-1 because its common curtesy.

And Grey, that would be nice if JMO had said his vote on mala was a gambit, but he didn't. It was a legit vote and it was scummy.

Fair enough. I didn't get that on my initial reading of it, hence why I asked the question of Talah.

Right, because you would have voted him if he announced that the vote was a gambit. Nice try.

since then he has said it was a pressure vote, even after I voted for him. I'm not buying your whole "it was obviously a gambit" spiel...

Not a bit. What PR could he possibly credibly claim? A PR needs more information, not less, to know what night action to take. So he claims VT and we move on.

Well, we have four potential PR types in the game, depending on which setup is chosen. You clearly have no idea of how claiming works. Regardless, I believe Moth's explanation, so I'm dropping this discussion.

Bold is mine

You still voted me for a terrible reason, youre still scum.

[jmo16mla]

Grey barely posted in the 130 posts between those two posts. I would still be happy with a grey lynch but I know when I'm beating a dead horse. Should I park my vote on one player like you?

And I wasn't comparing you to them, I was simply pointing out that it can and has been done. And trying to be helpful to you. I'm sorry of it came across that way.

I've given plenty of reasons to vote you. Flail harder.

Catching scum, isn't flailing hun. Don't be so butt hurt.

[jmo16mla]

Pretending the case against him doesn't exists.

[jmo16mla]

How come you keep misspelling mothrax's name?

is this alignment indicative? Fluff.

[jmo16mla]

Honey bee: are Tybalt and grey wing both my scum partners?

I'm asking you to look at M's given reason for his all-of-the-sudden vote.

[jmo16mla]

I'm not set on dying today. I've read crumbed nothing. My phone likes to ago correct his name. Plus, my spelling of his name is not alignment indicative. Now, drop it and take a stance.

[jmo16mla]

By pressing the multi quote and quote buttons. Now, stop trying to derail mothrax's lynch.

[jmo16mla]

If its non game related, it is.

[jmo16mla]

Mala, I sent him a message containing what type of phone I have. All good:

[jmo16mla]

I JUST said it was a message containing what type of phone I have. Messages non game related are perfectly fine to be sent to one another.

[jmo16mla]

I have a secret phone no one else in the world knows about. *looks around*

I was helping him out with my phone type on keep from cluttering the thread with tech tips.(:

[jmo16mla]

Me questioning you makes you want to vote you?

[jmo16mla]

Pressure? I mean, it's kinda self explanatory isn't it?

[jmo16mla]

I wanted to see what she would say about it. I mean, what more are you looking for?

[jmo16mla]

Okay. when i flip town, who will you go after? this is to everyone. and i want everyone to answer it.

[jmo16mla]

Town really needs to look at mothrax's lynch better. Scum know they are getting away with lynching a stronger player. Mala would likely be next.

[jmo16mla]

Town really needs to look at mothrax's lynch better. Scum know they are getting away with lynching a stronger player. Mala would likely be next.

I've had a town read on mala all game. You're grasping at straws. And really? Stronger player? Uh-huh.

Night killed honey. Scum love to say someone is grasping at straws over and over again just to try to ignore and deflect.

[jmo16mla]

Like I said, I want who everyone wants to lynch tomorrow, NOW.

[jmo16mla]

That proves nothing? Who are you lynching tomorrow? Or are you not going to reply because you are scum?

[jmo16mla]

You're ignoring my question and only good can come from you answering it.

[jmo16mla]

Because it holds you to your reads. Now answer it scum.

[jmo16mla]

GEN WOLF, WHEN DID I SAY MALA WAS SCUM AFTER MOHRAX?

Why does my spelling of his name have to do with the game?

[jmo16mla]

Not sure. You could be scum pushing my lynch, you hopped right back on my wagon once it was started up. I found the suspicious. If you were scum, I'd put you with mothrax by how it seemed to try to cover up my argument of moth scum with phone talk.

If you aren't scum with him, you probably aren't scum.

[jmo16mla]

I don't think I've played a scum game.
Did that convince you I'm not scum? Okay I didn't think so.

No, it doesn't guarantee moths lunch tomorrow. The rest of your argument is WIFOM. Or wine in front of me.

[jmo16mla]

We had plenty time. Thanks for allowing everyone to post who they were going after. Now town has nothing to keep people to. It's not setting up mislynches. And I fact, I even said those same words as scum before. You know what happened later in the game? I was caught because if my three listed scum suspects. Plus, you said I suspected mala after I went after mothrax. You never pointed out where this was.

[jmo16mla]

Whatever. I'm vanilla townie. Have at it town.

[jmo16mla]

Exactly. I want anyone who used the excuse that I was a bad IC, then voted me, looked at very hard. In no way shape or form does me being an IC have to do with my alignment.

[jmo16mla]

I've already been hammered.

Yes. Those two seem like they can be partners with each other.

Bee is town. Grey is town.

[jmo16mla]

Hah, I wasn't hammered by gen? Great. If you guys didn't see town intent in my posts earlier, then I don't know what you're thinking.

Talah, I've stopped caring what you say. I can't even read what you're saying. Which part is "classic scum play"? Give me examples of them. Give me examples of where you have seen this before as scum.

Gen Is still scum. He and morthax is very opportunistic. Where did I say gen wasn't talah?

Gen still LIED saying I thought mala was scummy after I voted moth.

So, where did you pull "so you're my sure about gen?" Out of your ass? Who said that? How did that quote say anything about gen?

It was clearly saying if you're not scum with mothrax, you're probably not sum. Nothing about gen.

[jmo16mla]

So, your last post talah, made absolutely no sense, so you my friend could be scum. Too many lies and made up ideals about how I think. You're completely telling everyone what you want to think. Nothing close to what's really going on.

[jmo16mla]

We had plenty time. Thanks for allowing everyone to post who they were going after. Now town has nothing to keep people to. It's not setting up mislynches. And I fact, I even said those same words as scum before. You know what happened later in the game? I was caught because if my three listed scum suspects. Plus, you said I suspected mala after I went after mothrax. You never pointed out where this was.

Whatever. I'm vanilla townie. Have at it town.

Exactly. I want anyone who used the excuse that I was a bad IC, then voted me, looked at very hard. In no way shape or form does me being an IC have to do with my alignment.

I've already been hammered.

Yes. Those two seem like they can be partners with each other.

Bee is town. Grey is town.

Yep, triple post. If you don't see town intent in these posts, AFTER I thought I was hammered, there are problems.

[jmo16mla]

Okay, deadline is at 12pm central time tomorrow. We need a lynch by then. It's bad to not get a lynch in day one. Even if it is a mislynch. I was hoping to have a VC or two to see where everyone stands, but I guess that won't happen.

[jmo16mla]

Grey, why are you coaching JMO?

Where?

[jmo16mla]

YES!!!!!

Gen, then why did you re vote me?

[jmo16mla]

I'm not? It's on your opportunistic vote. Those that used the "he's being a bad IC" excuse to vote, should be looked at closely.

I was just wondering why you revoted me. You were already voting me. Not your case.

[jmo16mla]

You said I'm boiling the case down to me being a bad IC. That isn't it? I'm not sure where you're seeing that. My case on you boils down to you being opportunistic.

[jmo16mla]

Ah that was hyp. Orange avatar. Sorry.

[jmo16mla]

What are you talking about dude?

[jmo16mla]

I can't deal with talah.

[jmo16mla]

Me getting pissed off at you and wanting you out of this game, isn't appeal to emotion. It's me wanting someone who is mature enough not to troll. Recently I have been asking people for reads on who they will go after tomorrow, getting others to take stances. I've done a LOT more recently than I had all game. So, that argument is invalid.

[jmo16mla]

This isn't related to the game^!!!

[jmo16mla]

In no way is that trolling?

[jmo16mla]

Mala, your opinion on talah?

Gen, your opinion on talah?

Talah, your opinion on gen?

[jmo16mla]

Talah, your opinion on gen?

[jmo16mla]

Hyper, where did you go?

[jmo16mla]

Youre touching too many topics.

If you are Vanilla, you should NOT lie about your role and go on to say that you are a doc, JK, cop so on and so forth. Doing so may cause the real cop, doc or JK (if there is one) to counter claim you. In the end, you get lynched because you fake claimed, and the real PR gets NK'd therefore town looses two guys, one being a PR.

What are you talking about suicide townie?

[jmo16mla]

per the Being a good IC page

While it is okay to lie as scum, it is NEVER okay to lie in your role as an IC.

Is this what you were looking for?

[jmo16mla]

Anyone is allowed to lie as any role. It is frowned upon if you lie

about your role

if you are indeed town.

Does that answer your question?

[jmo16mla]

One scum out of {genwolf, hyper, and mothrax}

It's rare there is no scum on an L-1 wagon.

I'm still with mothrax. Then again, I inspected gen wolfs slot from the beginning. Will re read tomorrow morning. We don't ave much time and a no lynch isn't an option.

Everyone who is NOT posting, you're being entirely anti town, I'm inclined to believe that the scum, one if not both haven't posted recently to keep the game at a stand still.

[jmo16mla]

Tues and I'm back, ketchup to be released. Get ready!!!!!

uh...

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: tybalt

Gen wolf, you JUST said last page you would vote Tybalt. Now this page you say you don't know... Hmm.

What's "classic"?

I was waiting for his reply, which we didn't get even though he KNEW it was close ton deadline.

[jmo16mla]

Ya, because I don't want to be forced into a lynch I don't approve of because we need to lynch someone.

Also its classic he keeps promising an update and never delivers.

Anyways, I'm going to put my vote where it always was. I'm not going to join a bandwagon because we need a lynch! I'm going to lynch someone I think is scum.

vote: jmo

I don't see Tybalt or Hyperion coming back before deadline and I won't be able to post again until after the deadline, so here goes:

VOTE: Tybalt

Should have swapped votes with someone. That way you vote them, they unvote and try can hammer. Now, I REALLY hope he's either scum or not a PR. I would have been online for deadline. But thats okay.

[jmo16mla]

The questions give me answers for down the road. You look at someone's responses, then later on in the game, if they vote that "strong town read" without reasoning, or something like that, it is useful to pressure someone based on that. I really haven't gotten around to reading because I just had an exam I had to study for, il get on this.

What's the difference between what honey bee was doing and what grey was doing?

[jmo16mla]

Gen, why am i no longer scum?

[jmo16mla]

OK, so, thinking about the HB kill. Night kill analyses would get us nothing, as it was a rather obvious kill since she was town as fuck and everyone else in the game had at least 1 person suspecting them. Tonights kill will probably be pretty informative.

Wasnt this already said?

mothrax site wide flaked and hasnt posted for 6 days.

[jmo16mla]

I think I have to agree with Hyper. HB was super town and usually super town are first to go because they can't be pushed as a mislynch and they lead lynches.

I already stated this like the moment after it happened. why is everyone wanting to echo?

[jmo16mla]

Oh. Didn't see that. Sorry for condoning such impoliteness.

[jmo16mla]

You said grey wing was buddying me yesterday. I did see some buddying, but what is the difference between what grey was saying and honey bee was saying?(they were both calling me town)

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: guy in a freezer

Someone else vote him too.

[jmo16mla]

Mala, quit lurking.

[jmo16mla]

Honestly, my reads are dust right now. I can't do anything as town, or scum with this amount of activity level.

I expect scum to get a perfect win with town acting in this manner though.

[jmo16mla]

Um how did JK got lynched?

Got five votes on him.

Now, tell me, who's scum?

[jmo16mla]

It appears as though you were reading... When you said you wouldn't be...

Very well then. \('.'\) (/'.')/

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: hyper?VOTE:

You came in and hopped on the leading wagon. Looks very opportunistic to me.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: hyper

already explained my reasoning.

[jmo16mla]

Hyper always is laid back. I don't think I have seen him where's he's openly questioning actively.

@Gif:

What's your read on me?

@Jmo:

Just because you stated it before doesn't mean you don't have to state it now. We have gif who's new. The polite thing would be to link it for others.

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Still in the car driving. This post is between food (pit stop) & nap time.

Mala, It's at the top of the page. I tried to vote, but I messed up the tags.

[jmo16mla]

Yeah it was.

[jmo16mla]

Why, hello the irish pope. I've never seen this guy before. haha just kidding.

Where did hyper go?

Can we get a VC NS?

[jmo16mla]

... but it doesn't mean you guys shouldn't post
Read about 5 pages, and checked the day 1 lynch and HOLY SHIT a hammer without a claim is a policy lynch, no exceptions
VOTE: Grey

And you didn't want to wait for lurking guy in a freezer to post his thoughts?

[jmo16mla]

Well, if grey flips town, I'd hope you wouldn't vote me. If you aren't scum, the remaining two scum can vote me and "quick hammer" resulting in a loss.

[jmo16mla]

As was said earlier, DO NOT vote. If you vote a townie, both scum can vote and quick hammer. Winning them the game.

I'm alive because of my uninthusiastic play. Shweet.

[jmo16mla]

If you're a 1 shot bullet proof, now would be the time to claim.

[jmo16mla]

I actually will agree with you that mala could be scum.

We didn't talk pre game because I never got a qt. but, whatever you think sir.

What are you trying to prove by the two quotes by me?

[jmo16mla]

Plus. Why did you go as far to say "what did you and mala discuss pregame, instead of saying you suspect is as partners? Where is your case in who you're positive is scum? You've come into the game and painted me and mala as scummy without saying much more than that.

[jmo16mla]

Why did you quote the other post?

This is lylo, we would have a semi confirmed town.

[jmo16mla]

Okay, well guess it won't confirm anyone.

[jmo16mla]

Could you answer my question about jmo's pair of posts and jmo's general approach to attacking people based on what happened during 'rvs' this game?

Still confused on what you're trying to say here.

[jmo16mla]

Vote Count 1.06 FINAL




Greywing (1)

tybalt

,
tybalt (5)

Honey bee

, Malakittens, talah,

Jmo16mla

,

Greywing

LYNCH
Jmo16mla (3 )

mothrax

, Hyperion, Gen_Wolf



Not Voting




With 9 it takes 5 to lynch


Deadline is in (expired on 2013-06-19 14:24:49)


Flip and flavor in next post

[jmo16mla]

Vote Count 2.04

Greywing

- 4 - Gen_Wolf, Hyperion, talah, TheIrishPope

GuyInFreezer

- 1 -

Greywing

Hyperion - 1 -

jmo16mla

Not Voting

GuyInFreezer

With 7 it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-07-14 00:53:31)

[jmo16mla]

Whow whow whow, good thing I checked in but we shouldn't put anyone at L-1 right now

... but it doesn't mean you guys shouldn't post
Read about 5 pages, and checked the day 1 lynch and HOLY SHIT a hammer without a claim is a policy lynch, no exceptions
VOTE: Grey

LOL, i think we will be lynching TIP/ mala slot today.

[jmo16mla]

yes, you did.

and you also, broke your policy lynch by not letting him claim.

and you did that right after you said he shouldnt be at L-1.

[jmo16mla]

your slot was also on both wagons.

[jmo16mla]

AND NOW YOURE ALIVE AT LYLO AFTER DOING THE SAME THING.

[jmo16mla]

time was limited.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: the irish pope

[jmo16mla]

why

[jmo16mla]

youre scum

[jmo16mla]

evidence is on the last page.

[jmo16mla]

youre not defending yourself.

[jmo16mla]

that "tactic" shouldnt have been used in that situation.

[jmo16mla]

because it brings us to lylo.

[jmo16mla]

waiting for n64

[jmo16mla]

whos scum TIP?

[jmo16mla]

why gen?

[jmo16mla]

UNVOTE: tip
for now.

[jmo16mla]

How does that make me scummy?

[jmo16mla]

face it gen, someone has to cast the first vote.

[jmo16mla]

okay, lets see the connections?

[jmo16mla]

I want to hear Tamuz's views. A new perspective is always enlightening

were you enlightened?

[jmo16mla]

Quick reads

Gen: his early play was terrible.
Has been really conservative with his vote. Scum #1

Talah: his recent posts and frustration by the lack of activity looks town.

Gonna keep reading.

I just realized TIP lolhammered, and it is quite ironic that he hammered him for policy while he didn't ask for claim himself. Also, him not knowing why whoever got lynched d1 was hammered without claim imies that he didn't fucking read.
Hyperion has been... Inactive for a while.

Grey has been hammered so I won't even bother reading him (for alignments)

Who else is left

Townread on jmo just for contribution alone.

Rushing reads before this gets locked \o/

If grey flips town, scum in gen,TIP,hyper.
Leaning more on TIP over hyper.

[jmo16mla]

Throwing your vote around loosely in lylo plus scum would have quick lynched. Yet they didnt, that leads me to believe they couldnt hop on the wagon because one was already on the wagon, you, and the other is not around at the moment

who else posted besides me and TIP?

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: tip
lets go.

[jmo16mla]

why the fuck does everyone dissapear

[jmo16mla]

unvote gen. now.

[jmo16mla]

unvote and wait tor t to post. im seeinf if you are scum with him.

[jmo16mla]

gen, scum arent going to vote first. get off.

[jmo16mla]

just trust me right now. unvote

[jmo16mla]

Gen, please. unvote.

[jmo16mla]

but im town.

[jmo16mla]

if t posts, with you and him online, then you guys arent scum together obviously. it clears you two as a scum team.

[jmo16mla]

yes

[jmo16mla]

tip you arent even going crazy any more.

[jmo16mla]

GIF thought you were scum. along with Gen.

[jmo16mla]

i need to sleep. Im still for jmo lynch.

lets not and win the game.

[jmo16mla]

tip has given up.

[jmo16mla]

rvs does let scum settle in, but i still do it. always have.

[jmo16mla]

gen where did you go?

[jmo16mla]

not convinced.

[jmo16mla]

he isnt.

[jmo16mla]

when everyone partakes in an action, i question why others dont.

[jmo16mla]

i questioned whoever it was that i asked if it was serious because i wanted to know his reason.

everyone else joke voted rvs as usual, and it looked like his vote was serious.

[jmo16mla]

UNVOTE:

[jmo16mla]

i dont feel like refreshing every 5 seconds anymore.

[jmo16mla]

youre still probably scum.

[jmo16mla]

yeah. why did you kill gif?

[jmo16mla]

im asking you.