Newbie 1484 (Day Two)

[Thesoctorisin]

vote: Bulb

He seems like a prat.

P.s. If my vote doesn't bold, how do I bold? Also, I am a newbie.

[Thesoctorisin]

Vote: Fairies

Fairies got involved in Bulbs and Hops conversation when she (or he) was obviously not needed. It makes me think she was trying to sow distrust between us.

Note:

I wanted to vote Fairies BEFORE I read those posts so I'm not bandwagoning

[Thesoctorisin]

In case you didn't realize @JarJar, I specifically said I was NOT bandwagoning and @cabd, I mentioned this because I dislike people who bandwagon and I felt I had a good read on Fairies before reading the comments voting Fairies. JarJar, you were the only other person commenting on that argument but I reread all your posts and I still feel as if you are town. I don't trust Fairies, however, because she basically said Bulba was scum in her first post. She then went back and got on the fence in the argument. Both of these post were, I feel, after RVS. I may be new but I'm pretty sure someone who is is trying to sow discomtempt would change their mind a lot. This might just be her play style but seeing as Iv got no experience with play styles I think she is scum. I stand by my decision to vote Fairies but if someone does something to change my mind I will ,obviously, change my vote.

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@cabd Why did you say I was protesting to much when I hadn't been accused of anything yet.
Also I will admit that my reason to vote fairies wasn't the BEST reason, but we only have like 2 days left and she was the only one I was getting a bad vibe from.

[Thesoctorisin]

@hop What was your reason for voting fairies?
@jarjar Are you voting me just because I "joined" the band wagon? If so, how does this automatically make me scum when tons of other people do it to?" (And I really didn't think you would read into my wording. It was just an expression I still pretty much feel the same way about her)
@cabd Thanks for having the decency to not attack me with every post and instead ask questions to get to the bottom of my scumminess or townieness. (No sarcasism there)
Answer: She claimed Bulba to be scum, then went and got back on the fence. Maybe discomtempt was the wrong word. More like confusion.

[Thesoctorisin]

@jarjar When I said tons of other people do it I meant in other games. I forgot that we are all newbies(Iv been keeping up with a lot of other games) so you wouldn't know that (unless you too have been keeping up with games)
@#1 I did not realize that the days were that long. Also I explained why I said I wasn't jumping on the wagon. I don't like people who vote people just because other people do(sorry for the plethora of "people") so I didn't want everyone thinking that I was like that. (Iv explained my reasoning for voting her and other people may say its weak but I thought it was good) I did not realize saying I wasn't bandwagoning would get everyone voting for me. I guess I should of told everyone at the beginning of the game that I didn't appreciate bandwagoning for no reason.

[Thesoctorisin]

Also for the time being I will unvote Fairies now that I know we have more than a week left.

unvote: Fairies

[Thesoctorisin]

In the game I observed, one player tried to post a reads list on day 1 and everybody else said wait for day 2. The only newbie player in that game was the one who tried to post the reads list so I think I will wait till day 2.

[Thesoctorisin]

In the game I observed, one player tried to post a reads list on day 1 and everybody else said wait for day 2. The only newbie player in that game was the one who tried to post the reads list so I think I will wait till day 2.

Not going to say anything about your wagon?

I prefer just to give scumreads rather than scaled townreads now.

How does what I said have anything to do with my vote on I love fairies?

[Thesoctorisin]

I don't have much time so I'll explain later.

Vote: Hopkirk

[Thesoctorisin]

The scumslip is you’d only know it’s a fact if you were scum. Since you’re saying it that way you’re either doc/jailkeeper or scum.

The one has to be scum is implied, not stated, by your reads on me and bulb.

Incite= 101

Soctor: obliviously it's the wagon on you i'm talking about... Biggest wagon and you don't make any game specific content is suspicious... then you vote me (seemingly for questioning you) right after that.

I didn't realize it was my wagon you were talking about. What do you mean when you say "game specific content is suspicious"?

The scumslip is you’d only know it’s a fact if you were scum. Since you’re saying it that way you’re either doc/jailkeeper or scum.

It's a fact that anything that can help mafia choose night targets can also help a doctor or jailkeeper choose protection targets. I never said it was a fact that we definately have one of those roles.

The one has to be scum is implied, not stated, by your reads on me and bulb.

No it isn't. While I think think it's likely one of you is scum I'm not implying it has to be true @ all. What I am implying w/ my reads is that you BOTH can't be scum. That is something I'm pretty confident about. That one of you flipping red clears the other.

Soctor: obliviously it's the wagon on you i'm talking about... Biggest wagon and you don't make any game specific content is suspicious... then you vote me (seemingly for questioning you) right after that.

This I agree with. Saying you're gonna wait untill day 2 to talk about stuff when you're the leading vote getter is a little strange.

I forgot that I am probably going to get lynched today so ,@<original, I will post a reads list.

Leaning toward town
Jarjar, #1: I trust them (even if they are voting for me)
Null
Catboi, fairies, <original
Leaning toward scum
Doctorhh (he is being creepily silent)
Scum
Hopkirk, Bulba (explain them in a second)

If I get lynched today I know at least I got to contribute to the scum hunt

I think both Bulba and Hopkirk are scummy because if they were town they would be contributing to our scum hunt. All they have been doing for 4 pages is just arguing about some dumb RVS vote. I can only vote for one and I just have a feeling that Hopkirk is scummier.

P.s. If I missed anyone's question or comment just tell me (still figuring out how to post;))

[Thesoctorisin]

What question did I ignore? And when I left out "don't" it's because I don't understand what you mean by "game specific content"? Are you saying that Iv been posting stuff that is irrevalent? (I'm seriously confused by what you mean) If so, what did I post that is irrevalent?

@jarjar Can you explain your reasoning when you say that me flipping will make Bulba look scummy?

[Thesoctorisin]

So you think that he is scum also?

Also what does l-1 mean? Can I get lynched before the day is even up?

[Thesoctorisin]

Awwwww my first ever mafia game and I'm most likely going to get lynched.

It is my fault though as I voted on someone who already had votes and then said that I wasn't bandwagoning

[Thesoctorisin]

I wasn't trying to move anybody I'm just explaining why I'm OK with being lynched. I screwed my chances of living pretty bad.

[Thesoctorisin]

Awwwww my first ever mafia game and I'm most likely going to get lynched.

It is my fault though as I voted on someone who already had votes and then said that I wasn't bandwagoning

Ateateate


Claim now please.

First of all what in the world does "ateateate" mean and when you say claim you want me to say my role?

[Thesoctorisin]

Oh! I'm just a VT.

[Thesoctorisin]

It's just the way your reading it.

Also, why would I scum claim? Is it a strategy or are you saying I did it on accident?

[Thesoctorisin]

Ohhhh I see! If I were to say it your way I would mean that we both think bulba is scummy. Well I guess that's true

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@hopkirk I was talking to jarjar but I was also wondering that too so thanks for clearing it up

[Thesoctorisin]

@number1 Now that you unvoted me, are you still leaning to me or are you leaning to someone else?

[Thesoctorisin]

1. Well, considering I'm the current lynch. I think I'm town
2. I don't think this question really applies to me, but if you want me to answer it just tell me.
3. I don't understand this question
4. Or this one
5. Day 2 when your nearing a lynch (Iv already posted mine though)
6. Like I said I already have. Nothing's changed.
7. Me so I could prove that I'm VT
8. I don't understand this question either
9. I'm all for it

[Thesoctorisin]

@JarJar Do you understand why

I

said the cop should investigate me?

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@hopkirk Why do you think JarJar is scummy?

[Thesoctorisin]

unvote
Vote: bulba

You said that ILF vote wasn't realistic. Well now it is. Iv stated that I think both Hopkirk and Bulba is scum so I will get on a his bandwagon.

[Thesoctorisin]

I

guess

I'd be Ok with a <original lynch, but I'm not really reading her as scum so I won't vote her unless nobody else will. I don't want to end day 1 without a lynch

[Thesoctorisin]

UPDATE: I just went back and reread all of <originals since the reads list and I see where y'all are coming from. I'd definitely be Ok with a <original lynch but let's see what she has to say first.

[Thesoctorisin]

Would a good strategy for the cop be attacking a lot of people and seeing their reaction so he can see who to investigate? Cause if so, Im pretty sure there's a cop in this game.

[Thesoctorisin]

Oh sorry. I didn't realize that was scummy but I understand now. And yes I have an intent to hammer but not till later today

[Thesoctorisin]

Why isn't <original claiming?

[Thesoctorisin]

I won't be able to post untill tonight so don't freak out if I disappeare right before a lynch.

[Thesoctorisin]

Are you supposed to discuss when you want to hammer? because I am ready now but I'm not sure if I should ask first since this affects us all.

[Thesoctorisin]

Good night

[Thesoctorisin]

@ jar jar probably because we weren't scum buddies

My read list stays the same except for doctorhh and Hopkirk

Doctorhh-scum. Earlier I said he was leaning scum but now I think he is scum. He and <original were both lurkers and I was wrong about <original(at least before the very end) so I don't want to make the same mistake twice.

Hopkirk-I already explained why I don't think he is scum. He is definitely leaning town for me.

But I won't vote right now.

[Thesoctorisin]

I asked because I wasn't sure if we should let her squirm for a while and see what she would say or to just go ahead and lynch her. Also I'm not voting yet because I'm not sure what to make of the night and my scum read yesterday is no longer my scum read.

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@catboi You'll notice I haven't voted for him for this exact reason. I realize it doesn't make much sense. Yesterday I had him at leaning scum. He hasn't done anything to make me see him as town yet so he can only become more scummy in my eyes or stay the same. I thought <original was null till the end. As you can see, I was wrong. I don't want to make the same mistake twice but believe me, I will only vote him if a, he gives me legit reasons to or b, it gets close to twilight and I'm still not certain who is scum

[Thesoctorisin]

I guess you could say its more of a "gut" feeling.

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I was talking about doctorhh

And since I'm at L-1, and I'm most likely going to be lynched Im going to do some scum hunting

I believe that hopkirk is the town cop so that means there's a fifty% chance there's a doctor. If there is one they need to protect hopkirk tonight. They obviously didn't protect him last night since number 1 died.

Reads list
Hopkirk-town, cop
Bulba-now that I think hopkirk is cop, I really don't know what to think of him. So null
Jar jar-town. Scum hunting really well
iLF- null.
Doctorhh- scum. Already explained
Catboi-leaning scum. Not really any reason except gut feeling

When I flip town I say lynch catboi since he jumped on my wagon in about 2 seconds of JarJar voting me.

Trust list
ILF
jarJar
Hopkirk
Untrust list(?)
Bulba
Doctorhh
Catboi

[Thesoctorisin]

Oh sorry Jarjar I just reread it and understood why you were confused. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that sentence but you understand the gist of my post right?

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Also Hopkirk. How is that horribly anti-town. I accidentally already stated it once and it's just my opinion. If you think that I am saying it because I am scum also doesn't make sense. And I said it yesterday and scum didn't kill you so obviously they don't think your cop.

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@jarjar do you have a better person for the doctor to protect?

@hopkirk How would scum know there is a cop?

Didn't I give my reasoning for lynching catboi instead of doctorhh? if not here it is again, doctorhh is just a gut feeling. catboi jumped on wagon right after jarjar voted.

as for the trust vs. reads list, my reads list is based on facts (besides doctorhh although I

did

give reasons) and my trust list is based on feelings

[Thesoctorisin]

Woooooowwwwwwwwwww! I am such an idiot!!!! I'm really sorry to whoever thought I was town (if there was anyone left who thought that ) because I basically just yelled "HEY, LYNCH ME!!!!!!!!!!!" And now we are about to lynch a townie:(

Let me explain (though I doubt y'all will believe me seeing as I wouldn't believe me). I did already explain doctorhh right? (Please remind me because I think I'm losing my mind) the reason I said to lynch catboi when I flip was because he jumped on my wagon so fast. I thought I had that written down on my reads list but apparently not. I said I would only vote doctorhh if (and only if) he a. Gave me more substantial reasons to, or b, I had no other scum reads.

So restate. I'm an idiot and I'm not trolling (well not on purpose anyway)

[Thesoctorisin]

ok

vote: Catboi

[Thesoctorisin]

What do you want to hear?

[Thesoctorisin]

How would <original be able to communicate with his parter? Can scum communicate during the day?

Also I do have some "last words".
I know I've only been playing for a month and thats still new but I can definitely say that my vote on ILF at the beggining of the game was extremely noobish, and looking back on it, I realize why everyone voted for me.
Sooooooo yeah. Im sorry for voting for you ILF!

[Thesoctorisin]

I guess your right but still, looking back ILF was obviously not scum. It was a stupid reason for voting.

And not really no. Although catboi looks a lot more scum than you. Why has he randomly dropped off the face of the earth right before a hammer?

[Thesoctorisin]

Number1 was all over Soctor and Catboi before he switched to <original. This might be the reason he got killed.
I have a very strong feeling the last scum is between them. We can afford the misslynch.
My top town are voting for Soctor.

I will hammer Soctor in (expired on 2014-04-02 19:01:46).

If you want to claim, do it before the time runs out.

You want who to claim? If it's me, I've already claimed