Star Trek Deep Space Nine Season 1 Mafia(game over!)

[LicketyQuickety]

Some observations about the setup (nowhere close to everything that can be gathered):

There are three people who are not confirmed.

The vote count is at 1.00. This is notable because the double decimal seems to serve no purpose as of yet. And there is already a vote or the default value starts at 1.00. I don't think I am at all use to this voting system.

Also,

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

UNVOTE: LicketyQuickety

Let the record show that the first vote I have ever cast on this site is LicketyQuickety, Myself. J/K, just trying to get a feel for how the votes work.

[LicketyQuickety]

LQ, it is likely that the "1.00" represents the fact that it is the 0th vote count of Day 1, so the next one that Monkeyman posts (the first proper vote count after Day opens) will be 1.01, then 1.02, etc.

Hello everyone. I'm excited about the theme here more than the game size, but I'll cope as best I can.

Warning:

I'm flying out to Orlandomeet and then Raleigh on Friday so I'll be a bit busy with meet stuff for the next couple of weeks, but I'll check as much as I can. I imagine that my companions will be sympathetic to our man here being in a mafia game.

VOTE: Jamierus Confess.

Please, be vocal in this game. I understand that you will be flirting with the limit amount of vacation time. I can only assume that you had your meets planed out in advance. I understand you will be at least following the thread and that is good. I just hope that you also have time to produce good (and accurate) responses in this thread as well as your time assigned to keeping up to date.

Thank you for your reasoning on the vote count counter; I will consider what you say to be a likely possibility, though not at all a certainty of it being accurate.

[LicketyQuickety]

Observation #3: There is no Day/Night icon for this threads game day at this point in time... why?

[LicketyQuickety]

Goddamnit. PB! Good to have you aboard. Now die

vote: Peacebringer

p.s.

Doesnt matter. aesthetic

I spose it figures that a wannabe professional politician is voting for a Peacebringer.

Questionnaire:

1. How would you rate how good of a player you think you are based on the amount of experience you have had on a scale of 1-9 with 1 being very very poor and 9 being very very well?

Do you have a semi-updated wiki?

Do you enjoy playing as town, scum or a 3p role the most. Specify and explain please.

I'll go first.

1. 6

2. yes.

3. VT because I am still inexperienced and it is the least complicated role to play IMO.

[LicketyQuickety]

I don't wish to bash a newbie, so don't take this the wrong way, but I think your questionnaire will function only as noise rather than give us an early insight into who knows everyone else's alignments, LQ.

Y'all should get on the Jamierus wagon. It's going places.

How?

Why?

VOTE: ChannelD

[LicketyQuickety]

How?

I've been around for a while and I've seen plenty of people attempt to open a game with 'random' questions instead of votes. I've never seen it accomplish anything.

Why?

Let's find out.

Also, for reference, my username is commonly abbreviated to CDB.

Thanks for the heads up on your username abbreviation; I hadn't looked at your Wiki yet.

Do you think my questions are random? If so, what makes you think so?

So iirc, bandwagoning on a player not yet active accomplishes something? What might that be? How does that work? Why is RVS alone the optimal strategy early day 1?

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Narn

[LicketyQuickety]

I would very much like to remind you that I represent a person, place or thing; and not the glorious Senator Armstrong this time.



Pedit: Nooo. I'm still foggy, but he's rhyming a riddle. Which isn't completely out of character for the account I should add.

The lack of content is supreme. Noted.

[LicketyQuickety]

What content could you possibly expect with your silly RQS, a claimed Deep Space Nine, and Archmage's propensity to stageact?

Don't be daft, newb.

My questionnaire had a purpose that I will prolly never divulge in this game thread. Same as the Deep Space Nine claim. And the stage act. The game actually started some time ago.

[LicketyQuickety]

Lolol.

Me pointing out that Archmage has a history of 'the humanities' probably had a purpose too. But that wasn't content.

This was your subsequent post after I questioned you.

I would very much like to remind you that I represent a person, place or thing; and not the glorious Senator Armstrong this time.



Pedit: Nooo. I'm still foggy, but he's rhyming a riddle. Which isn't completely out of character for the account I should add.

This was your first. Care to explain the purpose of this post?

[LicketyQuickety]

I questioned you.

Please show.

Depends how you interpret my post. There was no question mark if that's what your getting at, but you answered nonetheless so I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

[LicketyQuickety]

I questioned you.

Please show.

Are you not able to show?

No, I'm not. Your point?

[LicketyQuickety]

So you didn't ask me a question you can point to,but feel the need to harp on my 'answer' or lack thereof? And then get stonefaced when confronted instead of apologizing or asking the question in a manner everyone can recognize?

Fine, you want to play semantics whatev. Did you answer my post or not? Your far too concerned with specific specifics that actually don't amount to anything regarding alignment or roles or whatever you think you are doing voting for me.

[LicketyQuickety]

Now that you can see me, I'm as real as thee.
Someone must guess my name by the end of day three.

VOTE: Narninian

It may be a bit presumptuous of me,
Asking you to enumerate your claims so early,
But a vote so naked with no other comments bodes poorly.

@Ludicrous Archmage

- Are you William Shakespeare?

You have not guessed who I am, unfortunately,
But your attempt is appreciated, indubitably.

Indubitably doesn't fit the framework you have established. Its a ruse.

[LicketyQuickety]

are you one of the prophets ludicrious?

I find it intereting and Ludicrous are questing Hostile intent for voting me with a 'naked' vote but Lickity did the same thing after that vote.

You are correct, i did do that.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm completely astounded that you jump on a player who voted in RVS for 'weak' reasons. It laughably silly.

you vote me for RVS
your vote for Licktey is not RVS and weak

o.o I see. I can only have one vote in RVS, and once that expires PB is allowed to vote me for establishing a read.

It doesn't have to be concrete, merely better than random.

Could you explain your wording so I can better understand? You say "establish a read" rather than investigate or ponder a read. Is there a reason you chose that wording specifically?

[LicketyQuickety]

Yep. Tryhard.

I am assuming this argument is a catch 22. If the person argues the point it makes it look like they are indeed a try hard. On the other hand, if the point is not argued it is indication that the point is conceded. Would you agree?

[LicketyQuickety]

Do Day 1s here always move this quickly out of the silly BS beginning stage? Because if so I'm going to LOVE it here.

Anyway hi friends. I'm brand spanking new here so I know absolutely zero about any of the players (which is good I guess because it removes bias?) except for my good friend Jamierus. I read through Day 1 twice now and to my dismay I have nothing I can bring to the table at this point in time. I can't begin to decipher who Ludicrous might be because, assuming he's some sort of character from the show, I don't know anything about the theme.

What I'm most curious about at this point is the argument between Senator and Lick, but I can't tell if it's town vs town or scum vs town yet. (heck it could even be scum trying to distance from each other but that's probably a stretch) I'm not even sure how to go about trying to read Lick's playstyle. Peregrine's attempt to guess Ludicrous's name puts me slightly at ease (hey at least he tried).

Unfortunately that's all that I can come up with at this point.

You are not the first person to have difficulty reading me. I am an impulsive, post happy strategic, intuitive player if you must know.

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: Narn

[LicketyQuickety]

yes-indeedy.
VOTE: Hostile Intent

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: LocketyQuickety
Definite scum and I can't be bothered to try and spell it.

Your read on me is wrong, whatever it is. How can you expect to make a statement like that with not reasons shown and have people to blindly believe you? You got nothing on me.

[LicketyQuickety]

1. How would you rate how good of a player you think you are based on the amount of experience you have had on a scale of 1-9 with 1 being very very poor and 9 being very very well?

Do you have a semi-updated wiki?

Do you enjoy playing as town, scum or a 3p role the most. Specify and explain please.

7

no

town, scum is boring as shit.

Tals's posting is a bit annoying. Have you done this before in any games?

Once I think; it was a different site though and completely different questions.

[LicketyQuickety]

o.o I see. I can only have one vote in RVS, and once that expires PB is allowed to vote me for establishing a read.

It doesn't have to be concrete, merely better than random.

Could you explain your wording so I can better understand? You say "establish a read" rather than investigate or ponder a read. Is there a reason you chose that wording specifically?

Really?

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

A 'read' is your view on a player. You can't investigate your own read, though I guess you can ponder it... either way, those two alternatives aren't synonyms to each other. But I'm going to stop right there and ask again: Really?

Ok, so you basically have the same reason as Senator for voting me. So because I don't know the "correct" term for trying to solidify a read, you throw a vote in my direction. Noted.

And I find it curious that with the whole Rumpelstiltskin stuff you mentioned that you don't find that suspicious at all.

I guess we can conclude that you're more likely to vote for someone on a technicality for word choice rather than odd behavior. That does not see to be indicative of alignment but that is what we can conclude.

[LicketyQuickety]

Someone must guess my name by the end of day three.
Are you rumplestilskin?

...Yes, actually. That was surprisingly quick.

I for one, think that Archmage's being forced to speak in rhyme is hilarious, if that is the case. If this a ruse, I admire their dedication. Either way I don't find it that annoying.

Also, hi there. I don't know that much about Star Trek, but I spent about an hour on the wiki looking up DP9 stuff so I know the... basics? I hope it isn't required knowledge. I just like themes.

Archmage, can you tell us what will happen if we don't guess your name?

I actually wasn't forced to speak in rhyme, I was just forced to write those first two lines. My post restrictions were that I had to write those two lines at the top of all of my posts, and that I wasn't able to claim—both of which expired when someone guess my name.

Uh... Nothing, as far as I know. If something would have happened, I have no clue what it was.

Probably not. There've been plenty of wrong guesses.

I'm thinking it's his role name, and by that I mean his character. Or this is all bull. Fantastic bull. I'm just impressed by the rhyming. I think the first two lines that Archmage keeps repeating were provided by the mod, for sure (if this is real), but I can't tell if the rest of this stuff was also provided by the mod. I'm thinking no, based on the post you just quoted. I doubt Monkey would have that specific situation put there.

And THAT brings me right back 'roung to admiration. We are all in rhyming hell, now. Let's enjoy it!

Aw, thanks! I can go back to rhyming if you want, but I'd prefer to go without it.

Thank God I don't have to point out every inconsistency for your work choice because of the dichotomy style you chose to use. That is one less thing to try and figure out if you are trying to send secret messages or something.

[LicketyQuickety]

Someone must guess my name by the end of day three.
Are you rumplestilskin?

...Yes, actually. That was surprisingly quick.

I for one, think that Archmage's being forced to speak in rhyme is hilarious, if that is the case. If this a ruse, I admire their dedication. Either way I don't find it that annoying.

Also, hi there. I don't know that much about Star Trek, but I spent about an hour on the wiki looking up DP9 stuff so I know the... basics? I hope it isn't required knowledge. I just like themes.

Archmage, can you tell us what will happen if we don't guess your name?

I actually wasn't forced to speak in rhyme, I was just forced to write those first two lines. My post restrictions were that I had to write those two lines at the top of all of my posts, and that I wasn't able to claim—both of which expired when someone guess my name.

Uh... Nothing, as far as I know. If something would have happened, I have no clue what it was.

Probably not. There've been plenty of wrong guesses.

I'm thinking it's his role name, and by that I mean his character. Or this is all bull. Fantastic bull. I'm just impressed by the rhyming. I think the first two lines that Archmage keeps repeating were provided by the mod, for sure (if this is real), but I can't tell if the rest of this stuff was also provided by the mod. I'm thinking no, based on the post you just quoted. I doubt Monkey would have that specific situation put there.

And THAT brings me right back 'roung to admiration. We are all in rhyming hell, now. Let's enjoy it!

Aw, thanks! I can go back to rhyming if you want, but I'd prefer to go without it.

Hmm, nice effort. But this doesn't fit the DS9 theme like I would expect it to if it were legit. Anyone with more experience in theme games want to comment on that?

Who is your vote on?

[LicketyQuickety]

Who is your vote on?

Why do you ask?

Because I know you voted (admittedly I for got for who) and I wanted to know if you changed your vote or why you didn't change it yet.

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: Jamierus
VOTE: Narninian

This strikes me as a Role fish vote, correct me if I am wrong.

[LicketyQuickety]

I forgot about that episode. Strange choice of Character, though I suppose we should see some surprises.

Is this guy a policy lynch at some point?

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: Narninian
VOTE: LicketyQuickety

Reasoning?

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: Jamierus
VOTE: Narninian

This strikes me as a Role fish vote, correct me if I am wrong.

Quote fail?

You never answered my questions. But I'll answer yours in hopes that you answer mine at a later point in time.

No, totally serious. Struck me silly for the reasoning behind the vote which I didn't get matching up to what else he had posted. Se my last few posts. I just want to see the real reason for the vote.

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: Narninian
VOTE: LicketyQuickety

Reasoning?

I take it back, your assuming things.

[LicketyQuickety]

Shy are people voting PB? I can only assume it is town doing it.

[LicketyQuickety]

Re: 114 My vote is RVS and I don't remember who it's on either. I never change it till I see something to actually think is scummy.

The post you quoted didn't give reasons, so it's difficult to tell what you're actually questioning.

I'm not necessarily questioning you at all. I simply want to know what kind of player you are. Your answer tells a lot about the kind of player you are.

Shy are people voting PB? I can only assume it is town doing it.

Why the special interest in votes on PB, and even more so why assume town motivation for the votes?

I was clear that it was an assumption. I didn't see "good" reasons for the vote. In Neros case I am going off that he gets bored with playing as mafia given his answer to my questionnaire.

[LicketyQuickety]

We both happened to be active, nothing more.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have no problem lying. Not because I think you have lied in this thread yet necessarily.

[LicketyQuickety]

1. Accusations of role fishing.
2. Inquiries of policy lynching.
3. Posts are all sizzle, no steak.

1. It was not strong accusation and if it was an accusation I was more curious about the possibility of it being so. Did you even pay attention the dichotomy of the post?
2. And why does that merit a vote?
3. what does this even mean? I do a lot of weird stuff to see how people read me/vote me and that gives me info on a lot of things. If your expecting me to be completely linear and systematic and base what I do on observation alone you are sorely mistaken. And this does not mean I am scum whatsoever.

[LicketyQuickety]

Delibird's post was a vote. You called it role fishing. There's nothing to misinterpret there.

Policy lynching isn't exactly a pro-town thing to advocate. And it came out of nowhere.

Your posts have no town motivation. You're saying random shit with fancy sauce.

You're probably scum, so.

His vote was a direct result of what was said by that player almost immediately after he said it. I didn't see the vote to be without reasoning whatsoever and I made guesses as to what that reason was. I still maintain that not everyone is strictly logical in their approach the game.

I never once advocated that a player be policy lynched. I was curious if/when that player has been policy lynched in the past and one way to find that out is to ask if there is a posibility for them to be policy lynched in this game. Care to explain why this makes me look like scum?

LOL I have

NO

town motivation. That's a new one. I will admit to be rather spontaneous, but only so I can explain later. You shot first and didn't ask questions. Noted. You're the type of player who would want to policy lynch me every game because you have not idea how to read me accurately at this point in time.

You are assuming way too much about me and I thrive off of that. If you are convinced I am scum by day 3, you will never be able to read me accurately. You are both overestimating me and underestimating me at the same time which is really weird if you ask me. You are assuming all I am doing is coming up with BS answers that are not true and are not at all seeing how I am playing a tactical strategic game rather than a systematic game based on observation.

[LicketyQuickety]

We both happened to be active, nothing more.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have no problem lying. Not because I think you have lied in this thread yet necessarily.

Way to accuse him of lying without properly accusing him. You quoted a post and said he's a liar, but you haven't said whether he's *necessarily* lying in that post. Do you think he is or don't you, why the quiffling?

I'm trying to get info and that is all. Why can't you people understand this strategy???

[LicketyQuickety]

The other party doesn't have to be active for you to tunnel.

VOTE: davesaz

Umm, evidently you aren't reading the same thread as I am. First off, a half dozen or so posts is in no way a tunnel. Secondly, I'm interacting with plenty of other people.

Your post, however, would make a fine chainsaw if Lickety turned up mafia. Noted for future reference.

I'm not even close to voting for you at this point fwiw.

[LicketyQuickety]

1. Accusations of role fishing.
2. Inquiries of policy lynching.
3. Posts are all sizzle, no steak.

You're town.

ROFL.

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: zabing12, BTW.

Don't like your vote. Pushing inactive players is a waste of time of you're looking for interactions, so pushing actives makes sense. I don't think your vote is justified if that's your only reasoning.

I have to ask if you have a FoS on me as well.

[LicketyQuickety]

WTF is with all this policy lynching Narninian nonsense.
No, I've never been policy lynched before not has it ever been suggested before this game.
Also, there is absolutely no reason to policy lynch me this game.

About LicketyQuickety:

Things I like:
Calling out HI on BS 'try hard' line
Trying to get conversation started and leave RVS out of the game

Things I don't like:
Calling a vote a Rolefish
Asking if I should be policy lynched for absolutely no reason
Talking about policy lynching him for no reason.
saying anything he does is fine because it gets information.
Constantly talking about how he is tactical and strategic.

The policy lynch idea comes from how you said you are very poor at trying to convince people you are not scum regardless of alignment. I had to inquire about this to get an idea of what that means exactly.

Why don't you like the idea that a Vote can be a Rolefish, its certainly possible isn't it? CDB hinted they don't always disclose all their reasoning for things and I thought what better way to find out what the vote meant by

doing

something.
I never asked if you

should

be policy lynched. I inquired if that was a possibility and that is all.
Policy lynching "Him." who is him? I think its just an accidental word mistake but still have to ask.
What if I were to say that i would provide my reasoning later if asked about it?
I meantioned my playstyle twice, I am hardly constantly mentioning it. I am a hard player to read so I take liberties to tell about my playstyle so people can read me better as town.

[LicketyQuickety]

Your guess is inflammatory and a misrepresentation. Its an accusation to something it couldn't possibly have been, probably in an attempt to tread the waters of voting Delibird.

You didn't ask if he'd been PL'd. You simply asked if you could PL them. That's incredibly anti-town at best. There should be zero reason for "hey I wonder if he's ever been policy lynched before" much less "hey, who's up for policy lynching this guy?" before we even hit ten pages in a twenty-one player game.

I don't need to ask you a Goddamn thing. You wear your intentions on your sleeve and those intentions aren't great. You're scum.

You really need to learn how to quote people so its easier to follow who/what you are talking to/about.

I'm thinking its likely your scum at this point for being so sure I am scum

And yes, inflammatory and misdirection is my playstyle, thanks for noticing. I think I explained that I was trying to find info on the "I can't convince people I'm not scum" comment by Narn.

Ok, so what does PL mean again? I've never seen that before this game. I don't know anything about policy lynches or how often it happens which is another reason I asked about it.

If your so sure I wear my intentions on my sleeve, why are you wrong about your read on me?

Someone who is sure I am scum when I am town and they are town is not at all something that is new to me. I willing to guess that the person who made that same mitake has about 10+ years more experience than you in mafia, just fyi.

[LicketyQuickety]

Lickety: At this stage you're my second FoS, not a great one though. I'm trying to figure out how to read you atm, so I wouldn't advocate for your lynch right now.

I don't like your answer about the lying thing, though. I still think that post sounds like you're trying to set yourself up to accuse him of lying later. There's poking to provoke a reaction, yes, but you poked at a personal trait of his. "You have no problem lying." That doesn't have anything to do with one specific game, that was a general statement about his play, or his personality, that I don't think has any place here. I also don't really agree with it, but that isn't the point I'm trying to make.

I don't know how much this will mean, as I've played exactly one game with Hostile before this, but their play is very similar to that last game. When they accuse people, they really accuse people. And I do agree with them about the lying guess, as I just said.

Much like the way glasses girl here accuses people relentlessly, it is similar in approach to my style to some extent. I will sometimes make weird claims to get a read on if that claim has merit and is worth exploring or not. Sorry Narn, I have to tell people about my playstyle because otherwise people will never know what the heck I am doing and this speeds up the process for people trusting my town game.

Thanks for the info on whats her face. that's exactly the kind of stuff that I need to know to get a more accurate read on someone.

[LicketyQuickety]

The other party doesn't have to be active for you to tunnel.

VOTE: davesaz

He will not be reacting to your pressure in the way you think, just fyi.

[LicketyQuickety]

I don't need to learn to do anything because clearly you're keeping up. Thanks, though.

You're scum-reading me... for scum-reading you. OMGUS before the vote noted. So you're a ten-year veteran... but you don't know what PL means. Your pompous nature isn't going to drop my scum read on your slot. Actual scum hunting and providing content that isn't insipidly convoluted will. I've no qualms with being wrong. Thing is, though, that your LAMIST attitude doesn't convince me.

What OMGUS are you talking about? I am not a ten year veteran, I said there was a player who was an 18 year veteran who read me as mafia when they were town and I was town and they were willing to have one of us for sure get lynched for it and I mean she put herself on the line and put me on the line as well. It was a weird mechanic in the game that I played with her in that situation. I have only completed 6 games of forum mafia and my face-to-face experience is next to none. And yes, I have no idea what PL mean. Could you please tell me what it means? I guess you could say that in my total experience of being in mafia games, my scum hunting comes for myself looking suspicions. *shrug* And what the heck does "LAMIST" mean or stand for?

Would really like to hear from CDB right now.

[LicketyQuickety]

Ah, I misintepreted that last bit. Duh me.

PL is short for policy lynch.

LAMIST is short for Look At Me I'm So Town.

You said you're scum-reading me for scum-reading you. You said that. That's OMGUS without the vote.

I'm waiting to see what others have to say about our interaction before I throw a vote in your direction. If you've been paying attention, I threatened a vote on someone else with my Unvote.

[LicketyQuickety]

I have a negative town role btw

Do you want to get lynched?

[LicketyQuickety]

You have five votes bub

Yeah, I can read. I need 7 more to get lynched. Though I don't want to get lynched and I know it would be bad for town, I will both claim and provide prolly a pretty shitty reads list before the hammer vote.

[LicketyQuickety]

I have a negative town role btw

Do you want to get lynched?

Let me quote something here so you know why this threat is soo newbish that I wish we both could go back in time so you could take those words back.

LicketyQuickety[5] - Senator, Marcrell, MaxwellPuckett, HostileIntent, Saint

Saint[1] - davesaz

Sorry but that poor attempt at a threat with the rest of your weak posts this day. There are two options I see. New townie that will screw over town with his constant talking (should have taken my advice) or a new baddie who can't seem to figure out how to fly under the radar but instead starts pinging people in all the wrong ways.

You earned another vote from me.
UNVOTE: No Lynch
VOTE: Lickety

FP'd by Saint: Exactly. Now he has 6 because of his awful play style. Not sure if he's goodie or baddie at this point but the noobie goodie read I had earlier got demolished. Either way this lynch now benefits town either faction he flips.

Way to make a 180 on you 1st day policy on lynches.

[LicketyQuickety]

Good. You should go read war and peace instead of spamming .


P edit : Way to quote a gigantic post to provide a one liner

If that's your idea of a gigantic post you have no idea what you are doing.

[LicketyQuickety]

I've been playing six years . You? Way to be a dick to the entire thread thus far bro

Does debating elsewhere count? I understand you have been playing quite a while; I looked at your join date. So far you've given no info on your alignment and I've made people look either really scummy or innocent upon my lynch.
If you could explain exactly how I'm being a dick to the entire thread I would appreciate that.

[LicketyQuickety]

But it's retarded to pl it and it indicates the presence of gf and dt

I'm inclined to believe your claim though I don't know off the top of my head what a miller is. To make this claim this early in the game with little to no tangible pressure indicates you are either doing some really tricky business or you are doing it for the benefit of town and expect to be NKed early.

[LicketyQuickety]

Really want to know what PB thinks of my play at this point.

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE: Jamierus
VOTE: Narninian

This strikes me as a Role fish vote, correct me if I am wrong.

You're wrong.

1) Why did you vote Narninian after me if you thought this?
2) Why did you unvote Narninian here?

It was a failsafe vote in the attempt to keep others from voting for him while putting added pressure on him to produce info. He saw through my vote and it was now doing nothing so I unvoted.

[LicketyQuickety]

It was a failsafe vote in the attempt to keep others from voting for him while putting added pressure on him to produce info. He saw through my vote and it was now doing nothing so I unvoted.

Did you genuinely believe that your voting for someone, putting him at a positively moments-from-doom lynch-minus-nine, would dissuade others from voting for that person?

Did you find me suspicious for doing something that looked to you like I was rolefishing? Rolefishing is something that scum like to do, so they know who to kill.

That early in a game this big? yes.

I brought up a possibility that was not previously considered and it gave people the idea to keep their mind open to possibilities.

VOTE: Saint In before major bandwagon.

[LicketyQuickety]

That early in a game this big? yes.

Lynch-9 is not a point at which anyone on this site is going to be scared of putting down another vote on someone. In fact, quite the opposite. Momentum is helpful early on. But mostly people just aren't going to think 'gosh, Lickety voted Narninian, now I'd better not, just to be safe'. So if your Saint vote right now is intended to stop a bandwagon forming on him, now would be a good time to realise that you're not Gandalf standing tall against the balrog of public opinion, you're just a dude who's using his vote in the opposite of how it ought to be used.

I brought up a possibility that was not previously considered and it gave people the idea to keep their mind open to possibilities.

You haven't actually answered the question. Did you think it was suspicious? Did the possibility of me rolefishing occur to you at the time of your vote on Narninian or was it something you wondered when rereading?

What do you think of me right now?

It was very early in the stage past RVS you have to admit. I don't think I have that much power with my vote on someone; I am only one person. How do you know my current vote is to keep people from voting that person? That is your claim at least. My vote serves multiple purposes which I will not say what all of them are at this time because then it would not serve its purpose in the way intended.

I have absolutely no read on you art this time. It was an after thought and the thought occurred to me of the possibility when I reread the thread. That's the answer you want right?

[LicketyQuickety]

kk so I'm trying to find literally any conversation without Lick in it (bc I want to try to read other people) and it's the hardest thing ever. From what I can see I like Hostile, I think they're probably town so far. As far as I know I'm okay with Maxwell. I'm wary of Sinsun because I find no lynches on Day One to be a complete waste of time (reading back, the immediate 3rd party assumption is a bit sketchy but I can see where he's coming from). I'm in agreement with Channel, I'd rather Lick be Vig'd than lynched, I was just thinking that earlier.

That's about all I can get a read for at this point.

I would really prefer to be lynched over vig killed. I am strong about that and I not going to give my reason now.

Way to make a 180 on you 1st day policy on lynches.

Really?

I may change my vote if something comes up that cannot be ignored,

Skim much?

_________________________________________

As far as the third party assumption, it really is not that far of a stretch. What happens if we didn't guess his name by Day 3 or he got killed before then? Do any of you stop and think the dangers of something so obvious? I am wary of his role as that is an oddity. What benefit does town get from guessing his role? Or better yet, what disadvantage does it put us at?

CDB quotes the question with a "I can see myself voting sinsun soon". Because nobody else actually thought about it? A game THIS size to not have some sort of 3rd party in play would be insane. Your guess is as good as mine as to which 3rd parties are in play and the host has even stated himself, a game this size, he may create his own roles separate from the wiki. So noted as not wanting anyone to analyze the fact that a 3rd party most likely exists.

All this talk about a vig and people hopping off so quickly. The point of votes is to initially get a CLAIM from a scummy player. Then if we deem their playing to be scummy compared to their claim then we go in for the lynch/vig.

Saint claiming Miller this early on with no real pressure? Noted and questioning motives there.

Also LQ... "failsafe vote to keep others from voting him". Your logic is so flawed it's almost a policy lynch at this point on you unless your claim is good I am staying on with my vote.

Those hoping off the LQ voting, obviously their reasons are not the same as mine. At this point LQ is either going to be a useful town PR or a dead man walking with his poor threats towards others.

FP'd 5 times: No Lynches Day 1 provides the max usage of PRs in the night. My question is, out of ALL of the games you've ever played, what is the percentage you've lynched mafia during Day 1 while being town? I assume it's under 50%. The chance of killing off a Town PR Day 1 in a game this size is much higher than 6-10 player games.

I find people who push Day 1 lynches turn out to be scum more often than not. Pressuring for a claim or 2 or if someone is SUPER scummy throughout the day (or town would be better off without them) then voting someone is fine. But to just random vote and hope to get mafia when you have no clue what sort of roles are in play, ha. I don't know how many times I've witnessed Doctor, Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Vig, Mason, etc being taken out Day 1 due to poor "reads". I'd prefer them getting some info in the night to use when they are being put up on the block the next day so we get at least SOME information to work with instead of complete WIFOM Day 1.

But if you're some superb scum hunter and have lynched mafia over 50% of your games Day 1, please link them all to me. I'd be glad to have such a pro scum hunter pushing for a Day 1 lynch. If you cannot produce that request, then kindly bugger off and realise we both have our own opinions on Day 1 lynches.

FP'd once more.

Excellent post minus the "Really" comment. What purpose does that serve? I also have problem with the huge appearent contradiction which was not explained one bit about how you are against 1st day lynches but vote me without being strong about how I did something all the sudden to warrant an exception to your view on first day lynches.

day 1 lynches (at least here) don't just randomly happen.
It takes pressure to get to the point where somebody is actually in danger of being lynched.
If there are multiple wagons then it takes pressure for one to be picked over the other.
Mafia will be involved at some point and we get information.

No lynch is not something I'd agree to.

I see pretty much nothing wrong with this post. It is a very good way to show why 1st day lynches are a good thing.

Suisun, you're running with the assumption that's we're guaranteed to hit a PR. We're not. We're far more likely to hit a vanilla town, which isn't that big a loss and, again, affords us more information when we're late in the game.

And your under the assumption that we have VT in this game.

[LicketyQuickety]

LQ, if you are quoting a particularly long post, could you please in future either snip out the parts of it that you're not directly addressing or just link to it instead?

I'll be linking posts if I make a long response from now on granted I figure out the right way to do it.

[LicketyQuickety]

Wait, no, Jesus, I can't even read Memory Alpha coherently.

Saint, explicit yes or no answer: Is Marritza the person whom you are pretending to be?

PEDIT: You really should watch it, Saint. Although season 1 has its teething problems, your character's episode is fantastic and it grows to be the best Trek, IMO. This is the last time I will go on about how much I love the show, though. Promise.

Let the record show that your the first person to mention how a character role can reflect a alignment role.

[LicketyQuickety]

Can we just catch scum and treat me as confirmed town for a bit ?? If we lynch all the scum I win with you guys and I am a fairly decent scumhunter

I can't remember if you have used the term yet in this thread but right now I am going to give an OMGUS on that. Its so obvious it doesn't even NEED to be stated.

[LicketyQuickety]

Can we just catch scum and treat me as confirmed town for a bit ?? If we lynch all the scum I win with you guys and I am a fairly decent scumhunter

I can't remember if you have used the term yet in this thread but right now I am going to give an OMGUS on that. Its so obvious it doesn't even NEED to be stated.

Wtf are u even saying

A lot.

[LicketyQuickety]

107-117 Dave's rxn to lq shows he is lying then or now VOTE: davesaz

NOPE! He could have checked anytime in between when he told me he didn't know who he was voting for until the time he said he's glad his vote is serving its purpose.

[LicketyQuickety]

107-117 Dave's rxn to lq shows he is lying then or now VOTE: davesaz

NOPE! He could have checked anytime in between when he told me he didn't know who he was voting for until the time he said he's glad his vote is serving its purpose.

Nope he would have checked when you asked him as the thread was even shorter them he was directly lying

Oh hey I know a term just for this occasion. Its called Wifom and it a good tactic to use as scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

Mod did you tell me the wrong name in my role pm :/

Rude.

[LicketyQuickety]

107-117 Dave's rxn to lq shows he is lying then or now VOTE: davesaz

NOPE! He could have checked anytime in between when he told me he didn't know who he was voting for until the time he said he's glad his vote is serving its purpose.

Nope he would have checked when you asked him as the thread was even shorter them he was directly lying

Oh hey I know a term just for this occasion. Its called Wifom and it a good tactic to use as scum.

How is it wifom when it's clearly blatant lying. This is lose lose not some 50 percent Sicilian bullshit. I'm immune to wifom anyways

I rest my case.

[LicketyQuickety]

Others? You mean LQ? HI? They're both new players

Why do you feel the need for other people to come onto your wagon Dave? You want credit for an rvs vote? The other voters at least have reasoning you literally forgot you were voting me supposedly

You've pretty much proven to me that you are a 2.

[LicketyQuickety]

A 7-9 at scum though

I'm going to take this chance to take a look at your wiki now.

[LicketyQuickety]

Nothing there, go figure.

[LicketyQuickety]

Nero, I think of you as one of those guys who shows up really late and just solves all of the problems. You seem to be playing alright for day one.

I just have to say this post is awesome.

[LicketyQuickety]

Nero, I think of you as one of those guys who shows up really late and just solves all of the problems. You seem to be playing alright for day one.

I just have to say this post is awesome.

What so awesome about it other than giving me an ego boost?

Because the guy is making a HUGE claim.

[LicketyQuickety]

I have a high iq but I'm abrasive ( and evasive )

And I have a very average IQ, what the hell is your point?

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm miller lq so my point is you have to get neg town shit out of the way

If I was a miller I would be play so differently its not even funny.

[LicketyQuickety]

Nero, I think of you as one of those guys who shows up really late and just solves all of the problems. You seem to be playing alright for day one.

I just have to say this post is awesome.

What so awesome about it other than giving me an ego boost?

Because the guy is making a HUGE claim.

what's the huge claim?

Shall I make a list?

[LicketyQuickety]

If you were miller and didn't claim d1 your play would be wrong . All negative town roles claim d1 so to your point I'd like to hear how you would be playing it .

I think someone has said this before but I have to ask you so I can hear it one more time. WTF is a negative town role? Feel free to go into detail about this.

[LicketyQuickety]

If you were miller and didn't claim d1 your play would be wrong . All negative town roles claim d1 so to your point I'd like to hear how you would be playing it .

Which would make it a very reasonable play as scum as well. If you were mafia you would have a much better idea on the games setup because you would have more access to seeing more roles that are in the game. I think this has not been said yet, just so you know.

[LicketyQuickety]

If you were miller and didn't claim d1 your play would be wrong . All negative town roles claim d1 so to your point I'd like to hear how you would be playing it .

Which would make it a very reasonable play as scum as well. If you were mafia you would have a much better idea on the games setup because you would have more access to seeing more roles that are in the game. I think this has not been said yet, just so you know.

Only if Mafia has a RoleCop.

All we know for sure is that Mafia knows who among us isn't Mafia.

That isn't all I know but glad your not making assumptions.

Question to all (it may be a bit early for this but going to ask anyways). What do you think the set up is like?

[LicketyQuickety]

Ah 21 so what 5 scum 15 town 1 SK / Borg cult ?

How many games are you currently playing on this site?

[LicketyQuickety]

Detective (dt)
Medic (dr)
1 shot bulletproof (veteran)
Mason
Vigilante
Tracker
Watcher
Miller
7 reg townies
5 maf probably godfather janitor roleblocker assassin anti-3rdparty and idk stalker then some SK or cult

That game looks delicious.

[LicketyQuickety]

That could be this one

Correct.

[LicketyQuickety]

Given my role I doubt it's tracker watcher but hmm

Thank you for not being a complete moron...

Also, Its my birthday today... *evil grin* Anyone believe me?

[LicketyQuickety]

Holy crap, 14 pages since I last checked. I was at what, five pages? Gotta do some backreading, I was busy for like, a day and this game is already huge.

Would anyone care to iso this guy?

[LicketyQuickety]

I remember him posting a few riddles/poems then someone guessed rumplestiltskin and he started posting normally. Guess my name by the end of day three or something bad will happen to me

Not even close to enough info on the guy. Maybe ISOing isn't your thing...

[LicketyQuickety]

TAL - Town. I didn't ISO him

Anyone have a counter argument?

[LicketyQuickety]

I remember him posting a few riddles/poems then someone guessed rumplestiltskin and he started posting normally. Guess my name by the end of day three or something bad will happen to me

Not even close to enough info on the guy. Maybe ISOing isn't your thing...

You've made several posts suggesting that you know more about the players and setup than everyone else.

Explain exactly how you "know."

First... what's your read on my play and alignment?

[LicketyQuickety]

One more peep out of LQ today and I am keeping my vote on him NO MATTER WHAT. So cool your fingers off the keyboard for 4 hours here LQ.

I'm keeping my promise as I see he didn't even last an hour at the very least.

Anyway, my thoughts on the setup? With 21 people in it (not all active, maybe like tops of 10 of us posting regularly) we first look at the mafia:town ratio.

21/3 = 7 Mafia (like no.. just no..)
21/4 = 5-6 Mafia (Little better)

Now that would be a bare basic setup with no alterations.

As this IS a big game we can assume 1-2 third parties at play very easily. So I am picturing two setups here.

14/5/2 (Town/Mafia/3rd Party)
12/4/4/1 (Town/Mafia/2nd Mafia/3rd Party)

Obviously I can be off easily by the numbers as they are guesses. I do not know MM's mind and wont pretend to.

However, due to my role, I will say

I don't think there is a SINGLE VT in the entire game.

I think everyone is either PR's or weakened town (meaning we're weaker than a VT). Looking at my role is why I tend to believe Saint's claim even if I am suspicious about how quickly he outed it. I guess it does make sense (though I find it odd he is told he is Miller, can anyone confirm that on this site they tell you that you are miller. When I play with that role in play, the player usually does not know that they are Miller).

Anyway, to go a bit further in my current thinking. Unless there are two mafia factions there will be at least 5 mafia in one faction. (If two mafia factions then 3 or 4 per faction). Probably a Godfather, Framer, Roleblocker, ???, ??? in the team? Those are the normal roles I see for PRs for mafia. Then 1-2 3rd parties in play. Possibly Survivor/Serial Killer/Cult/Fool. For town we are looking at around* 14 townies. If Saint is town and is Miller, then we have about 2 roles weaker than VTs, possibly 1-2 weaker than VT or VT's and I'd say about 10 Power Roles. (Consisting of Cop and Doc at least, probably Tracker/Watcher in the mix).

*Estimate

To finish off this post, as Saint's role shows his character relatively relates to his role. So my question would be, how many people out there can say their role relates to their character on the show (as in it'd make sense that they ARE that role). In other words: Is your role flavour based on character? That is a simple question without giving any real information away. I ask it because I am going to watch some episodes this weekend and I want to know if I should keep an eye out for possible cult (biggest danger that Mafia and Town would face if they live for long).

I'm off to bed, when I wake up I may check back quickly to have a quick reply. But I am leaving fairly early out to spend the day with the girlfriend. So i wont be able to reply until about midnight tomorrow.

FP'd 3 times.

FTFY

[LicketyQuickety]

I don't think we need the setup spec.

Really. Especially one that doesn't come close to the usual SCM setups.

These noobs, bless 'em, they try.

How do you know you wasn't saying that he thought players in this game would be able to figure it out rather than that the mod might need to explain it???

[LicketyQuickety]

I don't think we need the setup spec.

Really. Especially one that doesn't come close to the usual SCM setups.

These noobs, bless 'em, they try.

How do you know he wasn't saying that he thought players in this game would be able to figure it out rather than that the mod might need to explain it???

ebwop.

If I see my word usage error being use against me in this case I am going to have a real problem with that.

[LicketyQuickety]

Now, Lickety,

You've made several posts suggesting that you know more about the players and setup than everyone else.

Explain exactly how you "know."

I am expecting a list of times when I suggested I know more about the players and the game than

everyone else

.

[LicketyQuickety]

One more peep out of LQ today and I am keeping my vote on him NO MATTER WHAT. So cool your fingers off the keyboard for 4 hours here LQ.

I'm keeping my promise as I see he didn't even last an hour at the very least.

Anyway, my thoughts on the setup? With 21 people in it (not all active, maybe like tops of 10 of us posting regularly) we first look at the mafia:town ratio.

21/3 = 7 Mafia (like no.. just no..)
21/4 = 5-6 Mafia (Little better)

Now that would be a bare basic setup with no alterations.

As this IS a big game we can assume 1-2 third parties at play very easily. So I am picturing two setups here.

14/5/2 (Town/Mafia/3rd Party)
12/4/4/1 (Town/Mafia/2nd Mafia/3rd Party)

Obviously I can be off easily by the numbers as they are guesses. I do not know MM's mind and wont pretend to.

However, due to my role, I will say I don't think there is a SINGLE VT in the entire game. I think everyone is either PR's or weakened town (meaning we're weaker than a VT). Looking at my role is why I tend to believe Saint's claim even if I am suspicious about how quickly he outed it. I guess it does make sense (though I find it odd he is told he is Miller, can anyone confirm that on this site they tell you that you are miller. When I play with that role in play, the player usually does not know that they are Miller).

Anyway, to go a bit further in my current thinking. Unless there are two mafia factions there will be at least 5 mafia in one faction. (If two mafia factions then 3 or 4 per faction). Probably a Godfather, Framer, Roleblocker, ???, ??? in the team? Those are the normal roles I see for PRs for mafia. Then 1-2 3rd parties in play. Possibly Survivor/Serial Killer/Cult/Fool. For town we are looking at around* 14 townies. If Saint is town and is Miller, then we have about 2 roles weaker than VTs, possibly 1-2 weaker than VT or VT's and I'd say about 10 Power Roles. (Consisting of Cop and Doc at least, probably Tracker/Watcher in the mix).

*Estimate

To finish off this post, as Saint's role shows his character relatively relates to his role. So my question would be, how many people out there can say their role relates to their character on the show (as in it'd make sense that they ARE that role). In other words: Is your role flavour based on character? That is a simple question without giving any real information away. I ask it because I am going to watch some episodes this weekend and I want to know if I should keep an eye out for possible cult (biggest danger that Mafia and Town would face if they live for long).

I'm off to bed, when I wake up I may check back quickly to have a quick reply. But I am leaving fairly early out to spend the day with the girlfriend. So i wont be able to reply until about midnight tomorrow.

FP'd 3 times.

One more peep out of LQ today and I am keeping my vote on him NO MATTER WHAT. So cool your fingers off the keyboard for 4 hours here LQ.

I'm keeping my promise as I see he didn't even last an hour at the very least.

Anyway, my thoughts on the setup? With 21 people in it (not all active, maybe like tops of 10 of us posting regularly) we first look at the mafia:town ratio.

21/3 = 7 Mafia (like no.. just no..)
21/4 = 5-6 Mafia (Little better)

Now that would be a bare basic setup with no alterations.

As this IS a big game we can assume 1-2 third parties at play very easily. So I am picturing two setups here.

14/5/2 (Town/Mafia/3rd Party)
12/4/4/1 (Town/Mafia/2nd Mafia/3rd Party)

Obviously I can be off easily by the numbers as they are guesses. I do not know MM's mind and wont pretend to.

However, due to my role, I will say

I don't think there is a SINGLE VT in the entire game.

I think everyone is either PR's or weakened town (meaning we're weaker than a VT). Looking at my role is why I tend to believe Saint's claim even if I am suspicious about how quickly he outed it. I guess it does make sense (though I find it odd he is told he is Miller, can anyone confirm that on this site they tell you that you are miller. When I play with that role in play, the player usually does not know that they are Miller).

Anyway, to go a bit further in my current thinking. Unless there are two mafia factions there will be at least 5 mafia in one faction. (If two mafia factions then 3 or 4 per faction). Probably a Godfather, Framer, Roleblocker, ???, ??? in the team? Those are the normal roles I see for PRs for mafia. Then 1-2 3rd parties in play. Possibly Survivor/Serial Killer/Cult/Fool. For town we are looking at around* 14 townies. If Saint is town and is Miller, then we have about 2 roles weaker than VTs, possibly 1-2 weaker than VT or VT's and I'd say about 10 Power Roles. (Consisting of Cop and Doc at least, probably Tracker/Watcher in the mix).

*Estimate

To finish off this post, as Saint's role shows his character relatively relates to his role. So my question would be, how many people out there can say their role relates to their character on the show (as in it'd make sense that they ARE that role). In other words: Is your role flavour based on character? That is a simple question without giving any real information away. I ask it because I am going to watch some episodes this weekend and I want to know if I should keep an eye out for possible cult (biggest danger that Mafia and Town would face if they live for long).

I'm off to bed, when I wake up I may check back quickly to have a quick reply. But I am leaving fairly early out to spend the day with the girlfriend. So i wont be able to reply until about midnight tomorrow.

FP'd 3 times.

FTFY

I remember him posting a few riddles/poems then someone guessed rumplestiltskin and he started posting normally. Guess my name by the end of day three or something bad will happen to me

Not even close to enough info on the guy. Maybe ISOing isn't your thing...

You've made several posts suggesting that you know more about the players and setup than everyone else.

Explain exactly how you "know."

First... what's your read on my play and alignment?

Your play is noob-ish. Your alignment looks pretty scummy. (I'll have a list with all players on it after Memorial Day.)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6883832

Though I don't want to get lynched and I know it would be bad for town, I will both claim and provide prolly a pretty shitty reads list before the hammer vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6884467

I would really prefer to be lynched over vig killed. I am strong about that and I not going to give my reason now.

...

And your under the assumption that we have VT in this game.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6885331

In post 334, Klingoncelt wrote:
"All we know for sure is that Mafia knows who among us isn't Mafia."

LicketyQuickety wrote:
That isn't all I know but glad your not making assumptions.

You're softclaiming some type of info role.

A word to the wise, claiming or softclaiming, or even hinting on Day 1 is never a good idea unless you're at L-1.

Lickety isn't the one who claimed miller, that was Saint.

What's a good lynch, then?

i BELIEVE THERE TO BE NO VT IN THIS GAME

I AM A BELOVED PRINCE

[LicketyQuickety]

Some observations about the setup (nowhere close to everything that can be gathered):

There are three people who are not confirmed.

The vote count is at 1.00. This is notable because the double decimal seems to serve no purpose as of yet. And there is already a vote or the default value starts at 1.00. I don't think I am at all use to this voting system.

Also,

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

UNVOTE: LicketyQuickety

Let the record show that the first vote I have ever cast on this site is LicketyQuickety, Myself. J/K, just trying to get a feel for how the votes work.

I voted and unvoted my self for a reason and that reason is because I know my playstyle and I know people would vote for me and I made the unvote to show people might have second thoughts about voting me when I claimed.

UNVOTE: Saint

[LicketyQuickety]

literally why did you feel the need to claim

I felt a strong argument was about to be used against me.

[LicketyQuickety]

literally why did you feel the need to claim

I felt a strong argument was about to be used against me.

How?

Because of my playstyle and as people have mentioned, its very easy to warp what I say to look scummy. My claim raises the stakes and makes people think twice before voting me.

[LicketyQuickety]

Nope. That's a fairly anti-town thought train.

Did you not see all the people just saying they would rather not lynch you?

I had an anti town role

[LicketyQuickety]

you know what; this is BS

vote: Licketyquickity

Thank you.

[LicketyQuickety]

I had an anti town role

read: Please lynch me

Poor wording on my part, I have no argument about that.

[LicketyQuickety]

Having a hard time getting on track this game and I have a bunch going. I'm still around but hoping a flip or two at lynch and overnight will give me more Info.

Were you intentional when you said a flip

or two

?

[LicketyQuickety]

That... that is actually a good question LQ. Like it's a legitimate question.

Your claim was timed terribly though like.. horribly. If you were going to claim, claim when you're a vote away from being lynched. Not when your psychic powers determine that a 'strong argument is coming your way'.

Also, you will be coming into wealth soon, and you will need to make an important decision in the near future.

Seriously. If that's a real claim, say goodbye to day phase tomorrow.

How the hell do you know that?

[LicketyQuickety]

3 roles? We have a claimed Beloved Princess and a claimed Miller.

What is SS?

[LicketyQuickety]

Lmao sorry. That bolded part was just a joke. Like when you go to a fortune teller and they tell you all this vague stuff?

Also, goof point. LQ, what's your role name?

I think all of the roles have flavour, but the fact that you're asking at all is weird. Sinsun. Of course they do. This is a large theme run by someone who is a big fan of that theme. Why are you asking?

Gene Roddenberry, LOL the creator. There was a nice picture of the guy and his many many different start trek movies and films and TV shows and stuff.

You can see why I wasn't wondering why you said I would be coming into wealth soon.

And FYI, I do have psychic powers. My playstyle has been associated with knowing things I don't know. LOL

[LicketyQuickety]

Lickety. How many games have you played recently?

I have completed 6 and I am helping another person with their game (no its not against the rules in this case).

Most of the games I have played in a a bit complicated when it comes to setup. One game I played in had I think four 3p, mafia, and town of course, which my team won as town. I was a mason and a 1 shot vig in that game.

[LicketyQuickety]

i still need to catch up on this game i am about to start doing that but give me ~ 30-1hr

Have to ask if its subtraction or not.

[LicketyQuickety]

that LQ wagon is scummy as shit and everyone on it needs to die.

LQ annoys and disrupts Town. He's be an excellent policy lynch.

However, since he decided to claim, he'll probably be tonight's NK.

Oy, this Day...

Please explain why you are still advocating for my lynch?

[LicketyQuickety]

that LQ wagon is scummy as shit and everyone on it needs to die.

LQ annoys and disrupts Town. He's be an excellent policy lynch.

However, since he decided to claim, he'll probably be tonight's NK.

Oy, this Day...

Please explain why you are still advocating for my lynch?

Read the post. You're disruptive and disruption is anti-Town. That said, you're safe for the rest of the Day.

However, since you outed yourself, you're a prime target for the Night Kill.

I did read the post, thoroughly. You still want me dead one way or the other and I don't fully understand why. Your vacation is convenient.

[LicketyQuickety]

I did read the post, thoroughly. You still want me dead one way or the other and I don't fully understand why. Your vacation is convenient.

Yes it is. My DIL died on the 1st, was buried on the 8th, her birthday was the 16th, and now it's the holiday of the dead.

I get to visit my dad's and sister's graves too. Very fucking convenient.

I'm a heartless bastard.

[LicketyQuickety]

You might want to give someone else a shot at knee-jerk reactions. Not saying that to be mean, I'm saying that because you might learn some things by watching the more experienced players.

If you could explain this, that would be amazing.

[LicketyQuickety]

Also, is the variant of Beloved Princess where we don't skip a day if they're lynched the standard?

I thought we would lose a day whether they were lynched or NKed.

Doesn't matter how I die, day skipped.

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Starting to understand the Saint votes.

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Going to reread the thread.

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Going to reread the thread tomorrow and give some things I have observed... I think. Not sure what the post is going to look like exactly, but going to make a post about it.
Right now I have to go to bed and I didn't get a chance to reread the thread becasuse my girl friend called

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Spoiler:

Either this guy is hell a good as scum or he is town this game.

I see my vote isn't wasted.

What the heck is a "negative town role?" A town aligned role that is bad for town? A town aligned role that you personally dislike?

I don't mind talkative players. It's not like someone posting frequently should affect the ability of others to post.

Pedit: Nero's on the ball, that's a good question.

Bastard roles, i.e. Hated Townie, Insane Doctor.

On the topic of LQ, I'm with others in that he's likely not scum, but I wouldn't mind at all for vig to off him tonight. Not going to vote for him though, because I'd rather search for scum during the day than jump to a quick majority on someone who's probably just an annoying townie.

Spoiler:

Either you're a moron or I hate your play.

Wagon Sinsun with me for a bit.

I'd be down.

VOTE: Vote: Sinsun

Meanwhile, I don't think Lick knows what OMGUS is...

Spoiler:

Saint knows way too much about this game.

If you were miller and didn't claim d1 your play would be wrong . All negative town roles claim d1 so to your point I'd like to hear how you would be playing it .

Which would make it a very reasonable play as scum as well. If you were mafia you would have a much better idea on the games setup because you would have more access to seeing more roles that are in the game. I think this has not been said yet, just so you know.

Spoiler:

Thank God you only kinda sorta know what you are doing this game.

Wow, so reading through it's been a bit of a clusterfuck of a day.

Saint claimed Miller, what's meta for that on my site? It was heavy scum-tell meta wise from environments I've been from.

Spoiler:

Kling claiming they have a ton of experience and Narn not getting it.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6883832

Though I don't want to get lynched and I know it would be bad for town, I will both claim and provide prolly a pretty shitty reads list before the hammer vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6884467

I would really prefer to be lynched over vig killed. I am strong about that and I not going to give my reason now.

...

And your under the assumption that we have VT in this game.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6885331

In post 334, Klingoncelt wrote:
"All we know for sure is that Mafia knows who among us isn't Mafia."

LicketyQuickety wrote:
That isn't all I know but glad your not making assumptions.

You're softclaiming some type of info role.

A word to the wise, claiming or softclaiming, or even hinting on Day 1 is never a good idea unless you're at L-1.

certainly means he's more likely to be scum, but its considered the right play for a miller as well.
The flavor is kind of legit I suppose, although investigatinos led to the knowledge he was innocent.

Spoiler:

If you have to ask the question...

What's a good lynch, then?

Spoiler:

WTF is this?

I want to hear from more from Tal.

PB as well.

Celt is posting alot but I have no clue where she is.

Spoiler:

I'm inclined to believe your scum based on this post alone.

Gene Roddenberry sounds like a made-up claim from scum without fakeclaims.

If Senator is claiming supersaint, we should have Lickety hammer him Today. That's clearly the best move here.

Also, vomit. Everywhere.

VOTE: Senator

I'm now going V/LA for Orlandomeet and Raleigh. Will be on the iPad 'til the 6th.

Spoiler:

We are not mind readers, but I get the point.

Oops, accidently pressed enter...

That said, if there are bodyguards, they should protect Puckett (or something)

Spoiler:

I'm sorry, but this post is not even in the ball park. I a different fucking sport altogether.

do we get to use the force?

READS:

Kling - Was Pre-in. Deftly feigning that they know a ton about the game, but not in this context. Hard to get a read either way. Want them to post more but they're on a "Heavy Holiday"

CDB - There are just some post that are too scummy to be scum. Don't know for sure but would say they play the negatives a lot.

Dave - Is playing it pretty close to the chest right now. Null/Town

Senator - No content at all. Likely to be a weird scum role of some sort.

Narn - Too close to call at this point. If pushed, I would likely vote for him.

Miller13 - I don't even want to know.

Its way too late for this marcell guy.

Zabing - Needs to start posting some reasons and/or explanations pronto. Unlikely to get that until his next game though. A lot of what he has done has been pretty newb if you ask me.

Saint - He knows this game, specifically, this kind of game. I'm a little worried he's going to bit us in the ass. Can't get a read from him at this point.

PB - oddly quiet. inclined to believe he's town.

HI - They have a very high regard for actual tangible experience iirc. I'm thinking town; pretty solid on that.

Jeanne11 - hasn't said much but what they have said has been right on. Really scared if they are mafia.

Sinsun1 - has a very odd playstyle and I'm willing to guess that they know this. Have to say town.

RIP - Don't know much about them and I think I want to keep it that way for now.

Maxwell - Good solid player. Doesn't get caught up in the unnecessary formalities too much. Prolly a good reader and I'm thinking I don't know exactly how to read them at this point even though his intentions are really town motivated.

Arch - See above for info on him

PeregrineV - don't know what is going on exactly with them, but pretty sure we need him. Please post more.

Nero Cain - Excellent player! I hope there town, cuz it could get really tricky for town if both him and Jeanne11 are scum.

Jamierus - has this person even posted yet?

LittleGumball - I think they bit off more than they can chew, which is prolly just their playstyle. Don't know about their experience as a player at all.

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Switch Jeanne11 and Jamierus. My bad.

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WTF is this?
In post 430, Nero Cain wrote:
I want to hear from more from Tal.

PB as well.

Celt is posting alot but I have no clue where she is.

Well, ever since I guessed Tals name he's been rather quiet, and PB has as well. Celt has posted alot but none of it seems that important to the game and I want to know where her reads are and where she is at. Why do you find this strange?

IDk doesn't seem to match your meta one bit. I could be way off though.

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I'm claiming Beloved Miller next game I play. Nono, Ill claim Bulletproof Ascetic.

If there is a beloved princess in our game, than it stands to reason that the night will be hot.

Don't worry you'll be informed.

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VOTE: millar13

Now for srs, bye.

That was not a mistake.

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LQ

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p6889849

Saint knows way too much about this game.

Not sure, but I think Saint said he's an alt. If one plays enough on this site, and in games with the same mod, it's not hard to figure a game out.

READS:

Kling - Was Pre-in. Deftly feigning that they know a ton about the game, but not in this context. Hard to get a read either way. Want them to post more but they're on a "Heavy Holiday"

I know the general site meta. I don't recall ever playing in one of Monkey's games. My meta changes with eery game, it reflects what's going on in Meatworld. I'm difficult to read and often mislynched early on.

[/quote]

Dang looks like I just hit the technicality jackpot or something, is that what your saying?

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A voting strip club appears! I'd like the naked voters to explain.

According to the Wiki, it's only if they're lynched.

No, that's only the variant, actually.

Beloved Princess

*is ashamed*

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Either you're a moron or I hate your play.

Wagon Sinsun with me for a bit.

I'd be down.

VOTE: Vote: Sinsun

Meanwhile, I don't think Lick knows what OMGUS is...

Well that was incredibly rude.

LittleGumball - I think they bit off more than they can chew, which is prolly just their playstyle. Don't know about their experience as a player at all.

What do you mean by this?

Sorry just didn't see how you could be sure I didn't know what OMGUS means.

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@Lick I don't see how that answers my second question.

also still salty about being called a moron but whatev

I'm tempted to ISO you to see what your experience with the internet is and try to get a feel for how smart you are.

Does that answer your question?

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Yeah, LG is like a pro I'm pretty sure. Do you do programming or some shit like that?

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Having a hard time getting on track this game and I have a bunch going. I'm still around but hoping a flip or two at lynch and overnight will give me more Info.

this quote screams scum trying to skim by and eek out activity to make it into a later phase before actually contributing

Even I forgot RIP was in the game and I was just reading the players list.

Anyway, this reason by Saint is sufficient. RIP's wording here is very odd.

VOTE: RIP

(Also people have been dropping the vote tags and wondering why their votes aren't counting, it needs to be seeable by the mod).

a single vote is not going to show up. Don't you guys read the setup thread?

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l
a single vote is not going to show up. Don't you guys read the setup thread?

Don't you read the vote count?

ChannelDelibird[1] - Senator

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K I think that if a person has been voted once in a day it wont show up. Not sure how technical MonkeyMan is being with this thing yet.

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My intuition is telling me that CDB, HI and senator are linked with something. Don't know if it has to do with this particular game or not.

[LicketyQuickety]

My intuition is telling me that CDB, HI and senator are linked with something. Don't know if it has to do with this particular game or not.

There're all acting scummy as shit and I don't like it... at all.

[LicketyQuickety]

Youre bad at mafia. I was HIs scumbuddy last game

Well.... that is humbling. I can't say I've seen any body come out of the blue earth and say something like that.

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do we get to use the force?

which one of you is Chewbacca?

This consists of millar's entire posting history.

Nearly 400 posts apart and this is all he has to say.

VOTE: millar13 I totally see where this is coming from.

Youre bad at mafia. I was HIs scumbuddy last game

Well blow me down. This is what I get for checking on my phone

Oh. Hey pisskop!

My intuition is telling me that CDB, HI and senator are linked with something. Don't know if it has to do with this particular game or not.

So you're... psychic?

Hell no! Just not even! I play by my gut that should be the most obvious thing at this point! If I am bad at mafia I will learn this shit and perfect my play till no one is going to know how in gods name to read me!

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm going to keep my vote on Sinsun but I have no issue with the RIP wagon and am considering switching onto it.

LQ why in heavens name would you claim? Anyway, part of me wants to lynch LQ. What if scum keeps him alive until the end game and gets 2 kills in? That's worrisome. You never should have claimed.

Zabing looks extra scummy to me after his vote on RIP. "It's a pretty good argument" yeah Zabing you haven't exactly been the poster child of contribution here, you barely said anything until pressured. I'm not trusting this vote at all and if RIP comes up town I'll be looking at you.

If you don't know what your role is, I suggest you look at it pronto.

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The other party doesn't have to be active for you to tunnel.

VOTE: davesaz

Hi I was making a document so that my first Large theme might be easier.

WTF is this weaksauce reason to vote?

Who are you a replacement for?

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Lmao that's zabings second 'sure that argument looks good, let's vote him' vote. I'm feeling great about where my vote is ATM.

Also, LQ, I really think you misunderstood the setup thread. Nero did not say that 'single votes will not show up', he said: if any player has a vote count other than one, (for example, double-voter or non-voter), that will be reflected. The 'example' part should have tipped you off that he is referring to how many votes a player is able to give. If someone has double votes, it will show up in the count, for example.

Every vote cast will be reflected, is what he is saying. I'm kind of amazed you thought he meant differently.. Why did you not question that the mod was apparently not recording all of the votes?

Nero didn't say that.

I'm not assuming much about this set up at this point cuz its just too unfamiliar from what I'm use to.

The thought did go through my head that the mod is "behind" in stuff.

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Pisskop is referencing a PM between myself and them about a set up I have made. I was very clear it was a trimmed game and very complex and I asked if they could take a look at it and they seemed flabbergasted that the game was so complex and said it was way out of their experience to try and balance.

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P-edited twice BTW.

make that 3 times.

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Pisskop is referencing a PM between myself and them about a set up I have made. I was very clear it was a trimmed game and very complex and I asked if they could take a look at it and they seemed flabbergasted that the game was so complex and said it was way out of their experience to try and balance.

pisskop is making a excel document tracking notable events and posts; as well as his feels and people's read, so that he can crush you with his mighty might.

That is one too many bold claims for my taste. What is the purpose for this?

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LQ, I meant to say that //Monkey// said those things about the setup in the rules, not me.

I'm very certain I'm correct, though. Check the rules post again, and if you still don't believe me, I'll quote it. Monkey is not behind in the vote count and never was, he simply missed putting in my invite, and missed some of the votes that bolded instead of using the vote tags for some reason.

I think you just misunderstood the original rules post.

Someone said people can't role claim in this setup. Who was it and why did they say it?

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VOTE: Senator

[LicketyQuickety]

really dont like the millar wagon and those on it

Why?

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm going to keep my vote on Sinsun but I have no issue with the RIP wagon and am considering switching onto it.

LQ why in heavens name would you claim? Anyway, part of me wants to lynch LQ. What if scum keeps him alive until the end game and gets 2 kills in? That's worrisome. You never should have claimed.

Zabing looks extra scummy to me after his vote on RIP. "It's a pretty good argument" yeah Zabing you haven't exactly been the poster child of contribution here, you barely said anything until pressured. I'm not trusting this vote at all and if RIP comes up town I'll be looking at you.

If you don't know what your role is, I suggest you look at it pronto.

What the fuck are you talking about here? I know what my role is and I don't even remotely understand what this post is about. My role has nothing to do with what I said. What? Are you drunk? High? What the hell...most of this game you've been talking gibberish but this is some next level shit.

Last time I checked you hadn't confirmed your role to the Mod: true or false?

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*Did you quote me //here//

I had to correct that.

LOL

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Kling, how do you know Maxwell isn't just dicking around?

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I'm going to keep my vote on Sinsun but I have no issue with the RIP wagon and am considering switching onto it.

LQ why in heavens name would you claim? Anyway, part of me wants to lynch LQ. What if scum keeps him alive until the end game and gets 2 kills in? That's worrisome. You never should have claimed.

Zabing looks extra scummy to me after his vote on RIP. "It's a pretty good argument" yeah Zabing you haven't exactly been the poster child of contribution here, you barely said anything until pressured. I'm not trusting this vote at all and if RIP comes up town I'll be looking at you.

If you don't know what your role is, I suggest you look at it pronto.

What the fuck are you talking about here? I know what my role is and I don't even remotely understand what this post is about. My role has nothing to do with what I said. What? Are you drunk? High? What the hell...most of this game you've been talking gibberish but this is some next level shit.

Last time I checked you hadn't confirmed your role to the Mod: true or false?

False. I confirmed via pm after I made my first post here. Not to mention you ignored my entire post to focus on something incredibly off topic.

BS, you're still not confirmed in the OP. Either you are holding an enormous secret, you are a bad liar, the mod is not paying attention to who has confirmed as closely as they should, or there is a really freaking weird mechanic with confirming for this game. It has to be one of those.

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I'm going to keep my vote on Sinsun but I have no issue with the RIP wagon and am considering switching onto it.

LQ why in heavens name would you claim? Anyway, part of me wants to lynch LQ. What if scum keeps him alive until the end game and gets 2 kills in? That's worrisome. You never should have claimed.

Zabing looks extra scummy to me after his vote on RIP. "It's a pretty good argument" yeah Zabing you haven't exactly been the poster child of contribution here, you barely said anything until pressured. I'm not trusting this vote at all and if RIP comes up town I'll be looking at you.

If you don't know what your role is, I suggest you look at it pronto.

What the fuck are you talking about here? I know what my role is and I don't even remotely understand what this post is about. My role has nothing to do with what I said. What? Are you drunk? High? What the hell...most of this game you've been talking gibberish but this is some next level shit.

Last time I checked you hadn't confirmed your role to the Mod: true or false?

False. I confirmed via pm after I made my first post here. Not to mention you ignored my entire post to focus on something incredibly off topic.

BS, you're still not confirmed in the OP. Either you are holding an enormous secret, you are a bad liar, the mod is not paying attention to who has confirmed as closely as they should, or there is a really freaking weird mechanic with confirming for this game. It has to be one of those.

Have you snapped? Why the hell would I lie about that? I PMed the mod right after I posted. Jesus you're like those 9/11 conspiracy theorists.

Yes, i have snapped in my life. Many reasons. This could be true or false. No I'm not.

[LicketyQuickety]

like, I feel like hes one of them there Town of Salam migrants

Never played the game in my life.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Zabing12

[LicketyQuickety]

Its that stunning lexicon and the ease with which you talk thats new to me. Like Gawd

Who, me?

Wrong galaxy.

[LicketyQuickety]

OK, things to think about: Why the hell did I claim so freaking early... every freaking time I play this game I end up claiming day one and half the time I win and half the time I lose... well technically I'm 4/3 with a win and lose as mafia and no 3p games played. Those are completed games.

[LicketyQuickety]

OK, things to think about: Why the hell did I claim so freaking early... every freaking time I play this game I end up claiming day one and half the time I win and half the time I lose... well technically I'm 4/3 with a win and lose as mafia and no 3p games played. Those are completed games.

2 wins as mafia and I've only played as mafia twice. My bad. One game doesn't count because its sooo far away from traditional mafia that its not even a joke.

[LicketyQuickety]

OK, things to think about: Why the hell did I claim so freaking early... every freaking time I play this game I end up claiming day one and half the time I win and half the time I lose... well technically I'm 4/3 with a win and lose as mafia and no 3p games played. Those are completed games.

Indeed. Claiming early is normally not a great thing to do unless you're close to being lynched (like 1/2 votes away), it can help us lynch scum(which apart from a counterclaim I dont see this working day 1), or to stop us from lynching somebody you know is innocent (masons?). Claiming early as a BELOVED princess, that also triggers upon a night death means you are lying (which combined with the gene roddenberry flavor is what I believe) or you are working against town interests.

I'm not working against my town interests and I'm not lying. You people are insane... I love it. And its beloved

Prince

NOT princess. I am a freaking nobody in this game.

[LicketyQuickety]

???

The worst part about LQ's claim is that he freely said it triggers upon NK. I don't know why anyone with any experience in mafia would tell scum that if they kill him they get a free night.

And even more, This early in the game, investigators don't have enough info to dig around, and x-shots get boned as well.

Pretty sure there are no X-shots in the game at this point, but I could be wrong.

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Not the point.

It was put on the table. You were the first person to mention X-Shots in the game. Don't you want to talk about them?

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See, its like you don't even know how anti-town you are. I'm the 3 shot commuter.

That is NOT an X-Shot.

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wholly crap.

Think

before you say things. If I were really the commuter you'd have just given the scum more reason to figure it out.

That is Anti-Town, Yes I am sure. Info, discussion ONLY help in a game like this. We are freaking pawns in this game. I have pretty much no control over what I do here, the role plays itself.

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All players have been confirmed except for Jeanne11

I'm going t be watching the replacement like a hawk. Jeanne11 was active sitewide so I find it a little disturbing that she flaked out of this game. I think its somewhat plausible that she got a roll (or role) she didn't like.

Maybe she's going underground?

[LicketyQuickety]

I don't get it

There are people on this site that are sooo freaking good at the game that I don't even know where to begin.

[LicketyQuickety]

So you think she's so good at this game she flaked?

IDK. I should prolly look at a couple of her posts to see if anything rings pro.

[LicketyQuickety]

She doesn't even have a wiki

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OK, things to think about: Why the hell did I claim so freaking early... every freaking time I play this game I end up claiming day one and half the time I win and half the time I lose... well technically I'm 4/3 with a win and lose as mafia and no 3p games played. Those are completed games.

Indeed. Claiming early is normally not a great thing to do unless you're close to being lynched (like 1/2 votes away), it can help us lynch scum(which apart from a counterclaim I dont see this working day 1), or to stop us from lynching somebody you know is innocent (masons?). Claiming early as a BELOVED princess, that also triggers upon a night death means you are lying (which combined with the gene roddenberry flavor is what I believe) or you are working against town interests.

IDK if there are masons in the game.

[LicketyQuickety]

I have no clue whatsoever how to read TAL

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Lmao that's zabings second 'sure that argument looks good, let's vote him' vote. I'm feeling great about where my vote is ATM.

Also, LQ, I really think you misunderstood the setup thread. Nero did not say that 'single votes will not show up', he said: if any player has a vote count other than one, (for example, double-voter or non-voter), that will be reflected. The 'example' part should have tipped you off that he is referring to how many votes a player is able to give. If someone has double votes, it will show up in the count, for example.

Every vote cast will be reflected, is what he is saying. I'm kind of amazed you thought he meant differently.. Why did you not question that the mod was apparently not recording all of the votes?

I don't even know what to do with this thing.

[LicketyQuickety]

OK, things to think about: Why the hell did I claim so freaking early... every freaking time I play this game I end up claiming day one and half the time I win and half the time I lose... well technically I'm 4/3 with a win and lose as mafia and no 3p games played. Those are completed games.

2 wins as mafia and I've only played as mafia twice. My bad. One game doesn't count because its sooo far away from traditional mafia that its not even a joke.

Great to know you're 2-0 as scum when you claim early, but only 2-3 as town. Definitely makes me not want you dead more. You are also acting like your wins as town have to do with you claiming. STOP CLAIMING DAY ONE. What is wrong with you?

Also, I really like the points on Zabing so..
UNVOTE: Sinsun
VOTE: Zabing

More info on my game. I won 2/3 of the games I was modkilled in, and the one I lost, it was not mafia we were playing. I'll leave it to your imagination. I was a coach of some sort to another player and won as mafia with that guy. I don't even know what he knows about the game... at all. I ended up left from being a coach and letting him cost for about 2 game days. I taught the basics and that's freaking it. It was a newbie W15++ game.

[LicketyQuickety]

Why should we care about your record? Appeal to (own) authority on D1?

I'm definitely in the lower half of the bracket. The bottom one.

[LicketyQuickety]

Guys, this game is... IDEK. I'm just trying to be a good little townie right now and follow whoever I think is actually good at this game. I am in over my head, and that is putting it so subtle, that you will not even feel the breeze when sitting outside drinking a 15 dollar an Oz cup of tea.

[LicketyQuickety]

Phones are annoying as shit.

[LicketyQuickety]

Please don't tell me Jeanne is playing to their win con.

[LicketyQuickety]

I've officially snapped.

[LicketyQuickety]

You know what? Fuck it, I'm playing to my win con.

[LicketyQuickety]

If Zabing doesn't post today, he is for sure scum and that is all there is to it.

P-Edited. What are you talking about Senator?

[LicketyQuickety]

P-Edit:

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Sinsun is prob town. Can we move on from that now?

+1

Shut up. You suck. You don't even have anything on your wiki.

[LicketyQuickety]

Shut up. You suck. You don't even have anything on your wiki.

LMAO

what even is this post

he loves me

yeah, no. Not right now, just shut up until your needed.

[LicketyQuickety]

You should do the same.

Yeah, until he's needed i.e never. Holy shit you are one frustrating person. LQ is either high, drunk, 12 years old, literally retarded or an elaborate troll and I really won't accept any other explanation. What the FUCK are you even saying? A solid 80% of you posts don't even make ANY FUCKING SENSE. For fucks sake, you're gonna make us want to kill ourselves. Stop being an idiot. You'll be NKd tonight and if not you'll be lynched tomorrow so it's about time you stopped spamming this game.

Then you have absolutely no idea.

[LicketyQuickety]

HI, why are we trying to find town this game?

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Its also easier b/c most of the player are town, thus by town hunting you will be mostly correct wich I think most players do to make themselves look better. town hunting is dumb. /end rant

Why did you mess that up? I was trying to get a read on IH.

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Its also easier b/c most of the player are town, thus by town hunting you will be mostly correct wich I think most players do to make themselves look better. town hunting is dumb. /end rant

Why did you mess that up? I was trying to get a read on IH.

HI, sorry.

[LicketyQuickety]

It makes it easier to scum hunt.

How?

[LicketyQuickety]

process of elimination.
But I agree with nero, you can't really 'town hunt' easily. Especially with no dead players for allegience references.

Yup, that's pretty much it.

Now HI, please answer the question.

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I have no freaking OFF button btw.

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You temporarily remove players from the "potential scum" pool.

My saying Sinsun is town wasn't me town hunting, it was declaring a read.

1) That's a lie and you know it.

2) I'm not asking your views on anyone so that is off the table for now.

Why are you following me? I am a nobody in this game.

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I guess a believe a lie, then.

I'm not certain I'm following your train of thought re: following you.

Then why did you vote for Zabing without explaining your reasoning and follow that up with a "More votes on Zabing please"?

[LicketyQuickety]

Zabing has requested replacement.

Please unvote until the replacement can be checked out.

Why?

Pedited:

@Hostile Intent,

It can definitely be interpreted that way, quite kidding around and take this game seriously. Seriously.

I take it you don't know what you're doing this game then?

Pedited.

Agreed.

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As well as that question goes, HI, have you even bothered to ISO me at All?

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LQ is a bloody idiot. Hell perhaps he's Jester and I am giving him what he wants, while RIP is becoming active now, LQ needs to learn when to be quiet. Not only is he not allowing others to speak (which prevents town from efficiently reading others), he's making a bloody fool of himself.

UNVOTE: RIP
VOTE: LQ

I say let us lose a bloody day, our PRs get two uses of their abilities as well. I can't stand another day with LQ alive. I'm locking in this vote, I am not changing it for any reason good or bad. He has disrupted any chance to use Day 1 to read anybody. Every single page has 3-6 posts just by him alone. Am I frustrated right now? Yes. I can't stand village idiots. Letting LQ live until Day 2 is bloody anti-town in its self because we're not going to benefit a single thing with him alive. Day 2 with him alive will be exactly like today, him yapping and having "scum" reads on people for the most stupidest things.

The sad part is, I think it's because he's still new to Mafia as a whole, either that or he only ever played RT mafia before this game because it requires no real scum hunting and the games end within 30 mins (tops).

Anyway, I am ending my rant for now and getting off before I blow up at LQ even further for wasting everyone's Day 1 so efficiently he has effectively helped scum for N1.

FP'd twice. LQ, believe me, no one needs to ISO you, you are on every fucking page...

Someone who is not even playing the same sport as you thinks I'm intelligent, just fyi.

[LicketyQuickety]

LG, what do you think of the Jeanne11 slot?

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LG, what do you think of the Jeanne11 slot?

Hard to think much of something that doesn't show up.

Yes and no, if you know what I'm saying.

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If there is room for a vig kill on me tonight, you guys are going to have to

really

know what you are doing. It doesn't make sense to me at all. Especially if its a X-Shot, meaning I have no idea how many shots it would be. If its just a plain old vig I suppose I can see that it has some bearing on me, but other than that, on a basic level, it makes no sense.

[LicketyQuickety]

Why are you worried about a vig on you? Shouldn't our beloved princess be more concerned about the benefit scum gain from killing you?

I am pretty sure I will not make it to mid game. There has been 1 (one) game where I have made it to end game and I was mafia and it was a choaching position and the person I was coaching didn't die. It looks like they were a new player who I just went all out telling them everything I know as scum, but tbh, I have no idea what exactly the person knows about these kinds of games.

P-edit: stop talking about the friggen weather guys, it has no place in this game.

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Why the fuck would I ever waste my time ISO'ing you, LQ? No. Just no.

I'm paying attention to all the times you don't actually answer my questions. You have failed at the basics of giving your own thought process. I made the same mistake. You need to pick up that part of the game better.

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If there is room for a vig kill on me tonight, you guys are going to have to

really

know what you are doing. It doesn't make sense to me at all. Especially if its a X-Shot, meaning I have no idea how many shots it would be. If its just a plain old vig I suppose I can see that it has some bearing on me, but other than that, on a basic level, it makes no sense.

A vig kill would be anti-Town enough to warrant a lynch on whoever did it.

I think it would make more sense for an investigator to cop you tonight.

No, if he really is a Beloved Princess that makes us lose a day NO MATTER HOW HE DIES then it's best to get it out of the way before scum uses it on lylo. For those of us who want him out of the game then this is the way to go. Besides, I find that Vigilantes are often lacking in information to make a well-placed shot on Night 1. I don't know how it works here, but N1 where I come from is usually absent from vig kills or the vig makes a really stupid kill.

Having played as a Vig, I know exactly what you are talking about here. Using a vig kill is a lot like town trying to lynch scum day 1.

[LicketyQuickety]

Why are you worried about a vig on you? Shouldn't our beloved princess be more concerned about the benefit scum gain from killing you?

I am pretty sure I will not make it to mid game. There has been 1 (one) game where I have made it to end game and I was mafia and it was a choaching position and the person I was coaching didn't die. It looks like they were a new player who I just went all out telling them everything I know as scum, but tbh, I have no idea what exactly the person knows about these kinds of games.

P-edit: stop talking about the friggen weather guys, it has no place in this game.

First of all, if you were "coaching" then YOU didn't make it to the end game, did you?

Secondly, maybe you never make it because you are annoying as hell, make no god damn sense, and claim day one? Also, most of what you said has no place in this game.

What's your point? And I expect an actual point this time, not just a ragging on how I play.

[LicketyQuickety]

My join date doesn't reflect my experience, son. We're done here.

Care to talk about your experience like I have? I think its important actually.

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EBWOP

Why are you worried about a vig on you? Shouldn't our beloved princess be more concerned about the benefit scum gain from killing you?

I am pretty sure I will not make it to mid game. There has been 1 (one) game where I have made it to end game and I was mafia and it was a choaching position and the person I was coaching didn't die. It looks like they were a new player who I just went all out telling them everything I know as scum, but tbh, I have no idea what exactly the person knows about these kinds of games.

P-edit: stop talking about the friggen weather guys, it has no place in this game.

First of all, if you were "coaching" then YOU didn't make it to the end game, did you?

Secondly, maybe you never make it because you are annoying as hell, make no god damn sense, and claim day one? Also, most of what you said has no place in this game.

What's your point? And I expect an actual point this time, not just a ragging on how I play.

My point is exactly what I said. You are talking out your ass and your play is annoying, and you're a hypocrite.

Why don't you want HI tunneled?

[LicketyQuickety]

My join date doesn't reflect my experience, son. We're done here.

Does not mean I'm wrong about you does it?

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Why the fuck would I ever waste my time ISO'ing you, LQ? No. Just no.

Its not a wast of time. You didn't really get what I was saying did you?

I would be careful if I were you.

[LicketyQuickety]

Oy, the day that HI meets her match.

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If zabing flips town there's at least two scum on this wagon. So many zabing votes without reasoning it's hilarious.

Mostly because LQ spends all his time arguing with people. LQ, please listen to me. I'll keep badgering you with this until you respond to me properly.
Listen to what other players are saying. The post above this one is a perfect example. You say your play is bad, back up it by saying you've never survived a game (coaching position doesn't count), but your posts read as if you think you're hot stuff. Lines like "I would be careful if I were you" are especially bad. You need to look at your playstyle, figure out what's wrong by listening to others, and changing it. And definitely don't admonish other players for 'ruining your attempt to get a read'. Other players are going to respond to your posts, and you have to deal with that.

Also: we're not lynching LQ. Sorry, that's just how it's gonna go down. Tomorrow we can think about it, but not today.

Looking forward to hearing from zabing's replacement. The fact that she replaced out here is making me feel good about the lynch, though.

Sinsun is town I think.

Oy, the day that HI meets her match.

I
lol?

No, its not funny in the slightest. I honestly hope she doesn't run into "that" guy.

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Also, who is 'that' guy?

Someone who would make every one of us in this game look silly. I don't know where this guy really is, all I know is that he can pick your game apart piece by piece. And its really scary if he is actually trying. He will tunnel you and I mean in the worst way possible.

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EBWOP

Why are you worried about a vig on you? Shouldn't our beloved princess be more concerned about the benefit scum gain from killing you?

I am pretty sure I will not make it to mid game. There has been 1 (one) game where I have made it to end game and I was mafia and it was a choaching position and the person I was coaching didn't die. It looks like they were a new player who I just went all out telling them everything I know as scum, but tbh, I have no idea what exactly the person knows about these kinds of games.

P-edit: stop talking about the friggen weather guys, it has no place in this game.

First of all, if you were "coaching" then YOU didn't make it to the end game, did you?

Secondly, maybe you never make it because you are annoying as hell, make no god damn sense, and claim day one? Also, most of what you said has no place in this game.

What's your point? And I expect an actual point this time, not just a ragging on how I play.

My point is exactly what I said. You are talking out your ass and your play is annoying, and you're a hypocrite.

K, I'd like you to point out were I'm a hypocrite so I can improve on things.

I expect quotes.

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Also, who is 'that' guy?

Someone who would make every one of us in this game look silly. I don't know where this guy really is, all I know is that he can pick your game apart piece by piece. And its really scary if he is actually trying. He will tunnel you and I mean in the worst way possible.

Give us his name.

I can't, I have no idea where the guy is and were he plays.

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If zabing flips town there's at least two scum on this wagon. So many zabing votes without reasoning it's hilarious.

Mostly because LQ spends all his time arguing with people. LQ, please listen to me. I'll keep badgering you with this until you respond to me properly.
Listen to what other players are saying. The post above this one is a perfect example. You say your play is bad, back up it by saying you've never survived a game (coaching position doesn't count), but your posts read as if you think you're hot stuff. Lines like "I would be careful if I were you" are especially bad. You need to look at your playstyle, figure out what's wrong by listening to others, and changing it. And definitely don't admonish other players for 'ruining your attempt to get a read'. Other players are going to respond to your posts, and you have to deal with that.

Also: we're not lynching LQ. Sorry, that's just how it's gonna go down. Tomorrow we can think about it, but not today.

Looking forward to hearing from zabing's replacement. The fact that she replaced out here is making me feel good about the lynch, though.

Sinsun is town I think.

Oy, the day that HI meets her match.

I
lol?

I voted Zabing almost solely because LG voted them. I was feeling like an ant at the time -like I was so bad at this game that I literally cried.

You are right. I need to learn to be quiet and not open my mouth and just listen sometimes. I am actually a really good listener irl.
If I am coming across like I am hot stuff, I apologize. I am perfectly aware that I have no clue what I am doing on this site. I was genuinely concerned that HI was going to get it in a bad way. And I don't even know if its on this site.
I was trying to explain to Nero that that is how I get a read on someone or how others can get a read on someone. It how a confirmation can be made. It is hard for me to change, just throwing that out there. I do learn though. I know my playstyle is atrocious right now, and I have to take a serious look at my game to look for bad play. I know one thing I have to do is get a lot better at the basics. If I can get better at the basics, I will actually be able to change my meta -and I don't even mean posting a lot.

P-Edit X4

P-Edit X2

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If there are only 2 scum on the Zabing train, if hes town, it is not at all worth it.

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I have no read on CDB

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CDB, why is it a BS claim that I am Gene? Think about this for a bit.

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No. Scum.

You're clearly scumreading the wrong people. Why?