Open 604 - Fire and Ice - Fire mafia wins!

[Firebringer]

/confirm.

HEY IKA!

[Firebringer]

So, for example,

Vote:Mist7676

because they have numbers in their names.

If Firebringer started to freak out because there are 3 votes on him, we could use that to make a read, is what I'm seeing as the point here. Okay, I'll probably reread the thread again, and see if I get what you mean proper.

You would like that wouldn't you?
Me to freak out, I welcome the votes. I LIVE ON THEM!

I feed on you guys thinking I am Scum, I feed of your hysteria.

FOR I AM THE BRINGER OF FIRE THE TRUE MVP THE SHERIFF JAILOR. YOU CANT TOP ME!

[Firebringer]

I am mad at the votes on me though, I think I will hold off voting for awhile (anti town ftw!) until someone leaps out or just hope the ice and fire attack each other.

[Firebringer]

So why swordmaster?

We still reaction testing?

Ika is never active in games, always there to hammer though . . ..

[Firebringer]

Ika is always town, are you crazy?
VOTE: Bellaphant

Obvious scum is obvious.

[Firebringer]

Also I don't like that penguin.

[Firebringer]

FireBringer: You've ignored a question of mine.

Your question was pointless. So I didn't bother answering it.

[Firebringer]

This game is fun.

It is, isn't it

[Firebringer]

Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

You are right it was fake emotion, it was a troll response to votes one me. You want to say thats indictionat of scum go ahead.
GL with that though.

[Firebringer]

ika
Bellaphant
klick
Firebringer

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Radja
TheCow
ConManMick
Sword Master *
Tatsuya Kaname
gameplay506
Mist7676
Prolapsed Brain
hayatoBL

anythign below line can die right now

I feel so honored!

Then let me rephrase. Why can the people below the line die now, and not the ones above it?

me
bella is my friend and i refuse to lycnh her day 1 also i have not seen anythign scumm form her
you moving game fward
meta (although i would lynch him only for policy)

I am guessing your policy on hammering anyone right?

#Quivering

So why the votes on Cow? Prodding for info?

[Firebringer]

Wait, how am I anti town?

I have feeling TheCow is scum.

VOTE: TheCow

[Firebringer]

I prefer giving little content. Keeps people guessing and makes me look "anti town". I just don't like nitpicking posts like other people on this site do and call that a reason for lynching them. I tell it like it is, I got a feeling and its a feeling.

[Firebringer]

So many people want me lynched in games lol.

[Firebringer]

Way to quote all my posts without giving a reason to justify your original statement.

You know it would help with commentary, because taken out of context a lot of those are useless. For one the first post is the confirmation post to play the game!

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There is nothing to say about them.

That is the problem.

Good lets keep it that way, I am going anti town just because of you.

Just going to vote who I think is scum not answer questions and win this without helping the rest of you.

#TheAngerIsReal

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Stupid reason to lynch someone bro. Its actually a scum reason to do so. VOTE: Klick Watch you say OMGUS.

Also blacklist is bad.

[Firebringer]

One post and I am on Klicks Blacklist, bad player.

Who does that? That reminds me of people who put someone on ignore or mute after one game with them. You need to stop being so sensitive.

[Firebringer]

I am trying to win the game, Klick you are actually going too far.

You took one post way too far.

[Firebringer]

No, I want to help but Klick is annoying me.

Like honestly Klick you are just ticking me off.

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Its funny because Klick quotes me but forgets to quote the part where I say I will try to lynch scum, which is FOR MY WIN CONDITION!

Yep, I am not playing to win. You are so bad Klick, take everything out of context. Don't read properly, just sad. You should ask for replacement for yourself.

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You read Hayato as town, why do you want someone else to read him? Not trusting your own judgement?

[Firebringer]

Everyone is Null right now, except you which are leaning scum because you are trying to get me replaced with a worse player.

Mist is probably only other person leaning scum for me.

[Firebringer]

Post 57 here says a player is taking RVS too far.

Post 87 then does a presumably RVS vote here.

[Firebringer]

Wait a second. Then why did you vote Cow here and claim you had a scumread on him?

I have feeling TheCow is scum.

VOTE: TheCow

Gut feeling, not a read.

[Firebringer]

Mists post.. . .
Hold on

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I am here. This RVS thing confuses me: I haven't seen this sort of thing before. Someone mind explaining the point to me?

You have played in another finished game where people were RVS-ing from the start. Can you tell me why you're pretending to not having see the RVS thing?

VOTE: TheCow

That was a Vengeance game, this is a "normal" game. Of course they would be played differently, and seeing that this is my first more

"normal" game -- a second informed minority aside

-- I see no problem with my questions. Of course, that would be the case if that were actually my reason for asking, which it is not.

That stuck out to me.

Anyways:
Its Post 85
For Mist.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: TheCow

Don't hammer till he gives a response.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: UNVOTE

There they can't hammer.

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VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

This vote is to pressure you into contributing more!
I got nothing from you so far.

[Firebringer]

Happy birthday man!

[Firebringer]

You did not give a reason, go back and read your own posts.

You said "Serious votes need an explanation, VOTE: X"
slight paraphrase but that is all you said. I went back 10 posts back looking to see if I saw any context to that vote and found some comments by the person you voted for and still didn't see anything.

The only defense for that vote wasn't RVS was it was four pages in, but that was about your first few posts so yeah I found it contradicting if not RVS at least your reasoning.

Prolapsed Brain hasn't given much so I would like for him to talk more.
You have any reads as of yet? What do you think of Mist?

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Well I don't exactly see the reason for all the votes on the cow? I put mine there to get more out of him. The post he gave wasn't particularly useful or leaning either way, just sounded like random jargon lol.

Explanations voters? Too lazy to go back and read to see if there is any.

[Firebringer]

Prolapsed do you have any reads yet?

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Gameplay has so much lack of detail in this game so far he is just Active Lurking. This might be intentional though so doesn't exactly mean he is scum.

I don't see why you Town lean on Mist. Can you point any reasons? I see the question mark so you obviously aren't positive.

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Gameplay has so much lack of detail in this game so far he is just Active Lurking. This might be intentional though so doesn't exactly mean he is scum.

Please outline the instances in which active lurking is pro-town.

Didn't say pro town, just means its not always indication of being scum. Its playstyle. Not an alignment 100% indicator.

I can deal with that

Vote: Gameplay

Cons not folding. If hes town hes calling our bluff.

Help us lynch scum or PL a townie who woild withhold content and make lurking a viable scum strat.

I think lurking is kind of viable for town as well day 1. I mean no it isn't very "pro town" but being anti town day 1 isn't such a bad strategy. How often do the lurkers/anti town players get attacked Night 1 by mafia?

The 'you can kill me if it'll help' seemed legit. If you 100% won't move off it, I'll follow.

Or scum just throwing in the towel.

Also going to be V/LA until Sunday for next few days. I think Mist is most likely scum so leaving vote on Mist.

Might post once or twice with my phone till then but no promises.

[Firebringer]

So whats everyones read on Mist?

Or gameplay?

Currently thinking Gameplay is town and Mist is Scum.

[Firebringer]

Vote Mist.

Let me spam it so my point gets across:

Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist
Mist

Get my point yet?
Lynch me tomorrow if I am wrong, come on.

[Firebringer]

Okay, lynch me either way then. I can take one for the town!

[Firebringer]

I wasn't voting for Mist?

I completely forgot lol

VOTE: Mist

Now I am. Going to sleep, cya tomorrow.

[Firebringer]

Why is cow scum

Primarily because he got a scum Role PM.

Thats a nice smartass comment. Got any other reasons that are apparent in this thread?

[Firebringer]

This game is going ultra super slow right now. Can we hurry up and get Mist lynched.

[Firebringer]

Pisskop hates being considered town!

Mist avoiding so much pressure on her.

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The reason for Conman is basically just because of lurking right? I mean I don't like lurkers either but they could easily be town. Better to put pressure on players who will actually respond to us than someone who will likely give us nothing then we lynch then its like 50/50 if they are scum.

[Firebringer]

Ignore the lurkers. Focus on those that are active. We can force lurkers to talk tomorrow. Thats my opinion

[Firebringer]

Except thats the day most reads are going to be incorrect/nulled.

Anyways, I don't mind lurkers that much on day 1. Its later stages that they need to be gone.

My advice:
Put all Lurkers on Scum Leaning and wait till day 2 to see if they act town or not or they are prime suspects.

Pedit: I don't like lurkers much, I hate the strategy. They are apart of the game and a playstyle though, so lets work with them and not 'policy lynch' them because they play different.

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Well if Mist continues to ignore, going to have to put pressure on someone else, I would like to put pressure on Prolapse Brain but they are acting very lurkish so might not be good.

Pisskop might be good, I don't agree with you that his posts are short and content filled. Seems to be active lurking from my opinion.

Hayato might be a good option? Trying so much not to take a stance on a lot it seems, could be scum trying to avoid lynching today.

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lol @ all the butthurt @ me keepin it real

What?

Like dont say,'hurrdurr maybe ill set myself up to switch to pk and try to push out a turd of a lynch'

Just. Do. It. Nike bro

You asking me to vote you will not get me to vote you. Unless thats your plan. #ReversePsychologyIsConfusing

I like these little posts, they are amusing.

Pedit: Yes.

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Hayato might be a good option? Trying so much not to take a stance on a lot it seems, could be scum trying to avoid lynching today.

I don't take stance when I don't have a strong read and I don't think it's unreasonable to have so little stance in this game.

I wonder if you will be more inclined to take stances if you were pressured.

[Firebringer]

Well I definitely would like to hear more of your thoughts, but you aren't my primary concern right now. So continue being lazy for time being

[Firebringer]

I agree Mist is being lurky and not-Mist-like.

VOTE: Mist

Says the lurker. I like support but you realize you have been lurking too, right?

[Firebringer]

I would like to hear Conman opinion on Mist as well as Ika who has been very inactive in this game.

[Firebringer]

The longer Hayato stays on the sideline of this game, the more I think he is scum. You also have conmanmick still not doing anything. Ugh.

Can you guys figure yoru stuff out? Be decisive!

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So far Mist seems to be hanging back waiting for this wagon to die over. Or busy with RL. Either way I don't see why we shouldn't put it at L-2 at least. If doesn't reply and make a good case we can make her the lynch for this Day. Depending on flip we go from there.

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I like how Ika says that I can die and he doesn't care lol. Apathetic town

I would like to see more one why he thinks what he thinks, but not prime concern. Although would love to hear why he thinks Mist is town.

Keeping pressure on Mist. Tunneling ftw.

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^ I've asked for the people on the Mist wagon to explain their scum-read on Mist (in case it wasn't done), because I only remembered reading gameplay's case. Can you fire?

I also want those who meta-read Mist as scum to explain their meta read.

Sorry. What do you mean by the bolded?

On second thought, TheCow. Could you be a dear and rephrase the whole text, if you want me to respond to it that is.

Gut feeling!

Honestly I think I had a reason but I have been tunneling for awhile I kind of lost it lol.
Not going to lie, losing faith in my tunneling train

[Firebringer]

I need reasons for stuff? This game is too complicated, I thought we just do random stuff.

[Firebringer]

Naah VOTE: Ika

These seems like a better choice right now. Prolapsed can die tomorrow.

[Firebringer]

I am just here to say that the biggest train person will probably die tonight if they aren't lynched.

Just a guess

Or am I trying to throw off scum?

Or try for them to both attack me?

[Firebringer]

Nice funny comment wander, if you think I am scum maybe you should vote me.

[Firebringer]

So I saw mist as scum for reactions to votes on her the fact she barely reacted if not just ignored them for most part. It felt anti town. I was wrong, I don't expect to be right anymore I am a sad panda

There's 4 scum right now with two teams of them. I could easily feel as though okay and cow are team along with prolapsed and maybe hayato

I mostly pulled those out from nowhere.

Anyways, I feel we already lost since. 6-4. Our chances feel weak

[Firebringer]

Sad panda

[Firebringer]

Vote the cow to end this day!!! One less scum hopefully cross kill happens so towns got a chance

[Firebringer]

Time to get on a major wagon like a sheep

VOTE: thecow

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Im kinda sure Firebringer would be a good NK, other scum

I probably would be good target. Unless scum wants to take out other scum and actually win the game.

Depends on Cow flips. He flips Ice then Fire could just go for me. Or vice versa.

I know you would be a better target. Which one are you in Pisskop?

[Firebringer]

Knew it.

Get lynched scum.

[Firebringer]

I prefer FireGod

DESTROYER OF ALL SCUM!

GOING TO DIE TONIGHT TO YOU GUYS.

BRING IT!

[Firebringer]

Yes, someone lynch!!

[Firebringer]

Ika, are you drunk?

[Firebringer]

You planning on hammering hayato
It's L-2 right now but I think oak will hammer if you vite

[Firebringer]

I guess I did lol

-1 to me. I fail.

[Firebringer]

I am pretty sure I die tonight and town loses.

So no.

[Firebringer]

Anyone else surprised I am alive?

Just me?

VOTE: prolapse brain

I dare scum to come get me again, Bring it!!!

[Firebringer]

You always hammer lol

Let someone else for once!!

[Firebringer]

How in the hell wm I still alive?


VOTE: gameplay

VT

Let's finish this.

[Firebringer]

honestly fire is scummier than klick
tho I am not yet voting before doing some research

I am definitely scummier.

If Klick is scum I will apologize after game. However I am not scum and hayato claims doc.

It's you and klick. I trust klick more.

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It's kind of toss up between me and gameplay I think we both capper more scummy than klick.

I think gameplay is more town than klick.

I will be shocked if it's klick.

Keeping vote here though. Follow me to victory remaining town. We still got a chance!!!!

[Firebringer]

You know what I don't want to lose if Klick is scum.

VOTE: Klick

I kinda rather gameplay win if he is scum than be outplayed by Klick.

Must deny Klick!!

[Firebringer]

Well if we win or lose.

At least we didn't get tricked by Klick.

[Firebringer]

I see it like this if you are scum and we don't lynchI'll be sad panda.

If gameplay is scum and we lynch you, I will laugh really hard at my stupidity but go on with my day.

Gameplay is the obvious lynch, you aren't.

I have just entered paranoid mode.

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That's fine.my goal was to look anti town to survive the nights.

Also asking scum to kill me.

Worked pretty well.

Look at last few players though if you were scum who would you rather be? Answer : you or hayato.

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And why would you play a survivalistic game as a VT? I could understand as scum or the Doctor, but VTs should be playing to attract the NK. What did you have to gain from surviving nights?

I haven't looked at gameplay in depth yet, but I see myself voting Firebringer.

I survive nights so that scum hit each other.

Why would you want to attract NK in this game mode? It's intended for cross killing. Attracting NK hurts town more in this mode.

You of all people should see that.

[Firebringer]

So you're saying scum should be shooting scum, correct? That would imply the way to survive the nights is to look PRO-town. However, you claim to be trying to look ANTI-town to survive the night. Why is that?

Regardless of the game mode, you achieve optimal results as a VT by being pro-town.

I just said exactly reason. If I look anti town, scum inclined to ignore me and go for town.

Scum want to lynch other scum. At night they want to aim for town. That's what I said.

You twist everything to support your play style.

I get it you like being pro town.

Not everyone else cares to look town.

[Firebringer]

I make complete sense. At least I am able to see your POV on looking town always, I just don't agree with it.

Especially in this game mode.

[Firebringer]

We about to win town?!?!?!?

Come on hayato, we got this I think!

[Firebringer]

Sorry Klick.

You are going down.

[Firebringer]

Fire: You still think gameplay is more likely to flip scum. You just don't want to lose against scum-Klick. Is this correct?

Yes, and by Klick behavior I have no intention to change that vote.

Says that I am intending to lose which is blatantly false and ticks me off.

You have an accusation that I am throwing the game why not take it up with the mod?

Ohh wait, cause you have no proof.

Cause you aren't confirmed town. Get off your high horse.

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Fire, I kinda get you. But if klick is town, by doing so you're punishing the whole Town for Klick's mistake.

That's 9 sad pandas you know?

Well then everyone can blame me if we lose.

[Firebringer]

what? Hayato you just confused me.

[Firebringer]

Different between me voting myself and voting someone i think has higher chances of being town is:

I KNOW I AM TOWN.

Like what is your logic here?

Voting myself is gamethrowing regardless of alignment.

[Firebringer]

Expect and what can occur are two different things.

I can go bet on a sports team to win and expect them to win but also harbor a doubt on my knowledge of the teams ability to win.

[Firebringer]

Couldn't town Gameplay lynch me anyways?

[Firebringer]

Fine I will lynch Gameplay, but if it was Klick. I am going to be so mad and yelling at you for this whole after game Hayato.

VOTE: Gameplay

Do whatever you want.

[Firebringer]

Also if you are scum Klick.

That was a low blow to call me gamethrowing, which is really annoys and infuriates me.

You don't know this but I am a moderator for sc2mafia. I work to make sure we keep gamethrowers out of the game. So saying that I am gamethrowing is really striking a nerve.

[Firebringer]

I still think gameplay was a little to obvious to be scum.

W/e if you won Klick, whatever. GG.

[Firebringer]

>.>

[Firebringer]

This is what I get for being bullied by you two into voting Gameplay, should've stood my ground.

[Firebringer]

Yeah, and I didn't trust my judgement.

AKA voting you.

Then you call me a gamethrower to piss me off to make me not think straight.

This happens so often in sc2mafia, I usually try to ignore this stuff.

[Firebringer]

Yelling time at hayato!

WTF MAN WE HAD THIS DOWN!!!!!!

[Firebringer]

WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Next time let me lead the town.

[Firebringer]

I need more people to sheep me rather than questioning my logic.

Pedit: We all did but you. I probably appeared as such a easy mislynch for you Klick.

[Firebringer]

You can yell at me all you want. I don't think I'm to blame for

Klick: I didn't really have aNY strong read coming into this game.

Someones to blame?

I am partially for listening to you guys.

What is that whole vote myself idea? Thats a troll idea. No town would do that.

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it was GG.

We had at end, but I messed up.

Partly because of what Hayato and Klick were saying.

Partially out of impatience.

Partially out of apathy.

I don't know if hayato wouldve eventually voted for Klick. But it definitely felt like it was a losing tryign to get hayato to do vote Klick.

[Firebringer]

I think all of town could of played better.

Me and Gameplay didn't play super townie. I thought that was why we were still alive at the end.

I do wish gameplay put more effort in at the end, but that is neither her nor there.

Please for the love of god Klick, don't ever call someone a gamethrower to try to win (regardless of your alignment) it is really shitty play.

[Firebringer]

Thanks for being mod.

Next time, give me a scum role. Please and thank you

[Firebringer]

My overall reads in this game were so bad.

First Day 1 lynch with Mist then Day 2.

Not that upset we lost tbh. I thought we were dead in the water at beginning of Day 3. Shocked it came as close as it did.