Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #22 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:01 am

@Mod

,

Any chance you can add what all the hydra accounts are playing in this game?

VOTE: Titus

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #30 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:19 am

This is going to be a fun game.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #33 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:25 am

I can across something similar in another game I was in. A player said they needed 5 votes for something to trigger. I forgot a lot about it including what was triggered and even if it was true or not. IDK though, it seems a tad "out there" for there to be a role like that in this game. I want to believe Elb is just joking...

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #36 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:29 am

In post 35, Suzune wrote:My only other thought was a jester. In your suggestion LQ, Since we would not know what we were activating it would be silly for us to get the votes up that much.

I think we need to slow down on the crazy fast wagons, yes.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #40 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:34 am

So far I don't like Jeanne11

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #43 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:47 am

In post 41, Titus wrote:
In post 40, LicketyQuickety wrote:So far I don't like Jeanne11

VOTE: LicketedQuickety

Doesn't like someone. Keeps RVS vote.

I don't like that.

Its not enough for a vote. I don't really do the "change RVS votes 5 times in 2 pages." I have not even asked Jeanne11 a question yet.

PEdit: cuz you got the youtube link wrong so I know its out of character for you to use youtube videos.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #45 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:55 am

In post 44, Jeanne11 wrote:Actually, it is not. I just use them less frequently.

OK, link me where you've done it before.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #48 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:03 am

In post 46, Titus wrote:Really feeling icky about LQ...

That's not really a protown sentiment to push even if Jeanne is scum...

How is it not pro-town? do we not push Scum or something? C'mon Titus, I know you know better that that.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #50 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:05 am

In post 47, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, I could link you, but I cannot really remember where. I've done it on multiple sites.

You and Titus seem to be a little too coordinated for my taste.

PEdit: Why are you giving her that kind of credit Titus?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #53 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:10 am

In post 51, Titus wrote:
In post 50, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 47, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, I could link you, but I cannot really remember where. I've done it on multiple sites.

You and Titus seem to be a little too coordinated for my taste.

PEdit: Why are you giving her that kind of credit Titus?

Stop rolefishing. I'm not giving her credit. I don't fully trust her. You're just rolefishing.

How the hell is that a rolefish?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #54 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:12 am

In post 52, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, we could be or could not be, but I guess we're kind of united in destroying scum.

O.o

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #55 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:13 am

I have no idea why I am being tunneled right now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #62 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:36 am

@Elb, you are claiming scum WHYYYYYYY?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #66 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:53 am

In post 64, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 40, LicketyQuickety wrote:So far I don't like Jeanne11

What don't you like so far?

At the time I was looking at there two posts they made. The first post was a derp on a youtube code which was addressed to Titus. The second post was asking Elb if he was being sarcastic which I suppose isn't that weird, but I mean its a little obvious and there was just something about it that didn't jive well with me. After that Jeanne11 does the whole team up with Titus, which seems like there is some trust between the two regardless of what Titus says about it.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #118 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:48 pm

In post 106, Ranger wrote:VOTE: BRantz.

Mark: wgeurts.

(I wonder if Varsoon will accept that? If so, wgeurts will confirm when it's been done. If not, then I suppose I need to go through the effort of PMing it.)

I'm sorry, but is no one going to do anything with this?

I have a question. What are you doing?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #119 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:48 pm

Also, Weirdo Elb noted.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #120 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:49 pm

Sorry Drixx, I get it, shit happens.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #123 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:21 pm

@Titus,

I am legit lost on you saying I was rolefishing earlier and I'd like you to explain that please.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #131 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:50 pm

@Ranger,

I don't like you Scumreading me so early. You got a reason?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #136 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:02 pm

In post 132, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:I don't like you Scumreading me so early. You got a reason?
The majority of your posts have had this unnatural vibe about them. If I felt like explaining in detail greater than that right now, I would have done so already, but generally you'll find I'm a fairly lazy early-game player.

K, go ahead and vote me. I got nothing to hide.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #137 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:04 pm

Weird question Titus, but I think the correct answer is that I am from the US or the States.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #139 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:09 pm

In post 138, Ranger wrote:
Titus wrote:@Ranger, your move to LQ feels slimy to me
Deal with it. I'd be there no matter how many votes were on LicketyQuickety because he's my strongest scumread. That others beat me to the punch is unfortunate, but irrelevant to my rationale behind voting there.

K, go ahead and vote me then.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #142 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:26 pm

In post 121, wgeurts wrote:Why the heck have I been marked?
Reading up later once I'm not about to cycle 13k.

Wgeurts was the 3rd person to ask about the mark. They've been following people.

VOTE: wgeurts

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #145 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:35 pm

In post 144, FireKari wrote:
In post 143, Painbringer wrote:I don't think Wgeurts was even reading the whole thread when he posted that.
That vote seems pretty silly IMO.

Come on Lickety.

Mine

-Fire

Worst Hydra Slipper of all time.

I've been awake since like the 27th fwiw.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #173 (isolation #24) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:15 pm

In post 147, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:Wgeurts was the 3rd person to ask about the mark.
OR, wgeurts logged in, found a message in his inbox from Varsoon, read it, and it said he was marked, with him coming straight to the thread to ask why, without knowing I had claimed responsibility.

I don't think a town player would be this dense.

Errr... what?

How are you iffering that Wgeurts is not reading the thread?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #174 (isolation #25) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:16 pm

In post 173, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 147, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:Wgeurts was the 3rd person to ask about the mark.
OR, wgeurts logged in, found a message in his inbox from Varsoon, read it, and it said he was marked, with him coming straight to the thread to ask why, without knowing I had claimed responsibility.

I don't think a town player would be this dense.

Errr... what?

How are you inferring that Wgeurts is not reading the thread?

Ebwop

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #196 (isolation #26) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:26 pm

In post 176, Jeanne11 wrote:Hey, everyone, Titus said it herself, she gets angrier the more certain the probability of lynch is. Let's see if she's gonna start yelling if we lynch her scumbuddy Elbirn.

This is the worst fucking argument I've seen in this thread so far. But Jeanne11 can't be serious her. I still don't like it at all.

I'd really like it if Jeanne11 got some pressure on them, because these kinds of posts are shitty and I don't want to see Jeanne11 skate by with this kind of shit.

VOTE: Jeanne11

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #198 (isolation #27) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:28 pm

In post 193, Jeanne11 wrote:See? Titus became crazy as well, aanonoeoewnow

Like, I can totally see a Scum making these kinds of posts in like a "lol can't catch me" kinda of way.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #201 (isolation #28) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:30 pm

In post 199, Titus wrote:
In post 196, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 176, Jeanne11 wrote:Hey, everyone, Titus said it herself, she gets angrier the more certain the probability of lynch is. Let's see if she's gonna start yelling if we lynch her scumbuddy Elbirn.

This is the worst fucking argument I've seen in this thread so far. But Jeanne11 can't be serious her. I still don't like it at all.

I'd really like it if Jeanne11 got some pressure on them, because these kinds of posts are shitty and I don't want to see Jeanne11 skate by with this kind of shit.

VOTE: Jeanne11

It's actually true. I get frustrated with bad lynches as town and aggressive conspire to out scum.

That mailman isn't here and he's inadvertently making me look bad for getting caught in traffic. Oh well.

The point stands, I don't like Jeanne11's posts.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #207 (isolation #29) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:44 pm

In post 205, Jeanne11 wrote:piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Like really.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #208 (isolation #30) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:45 pm

In post 206, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:How are you inferring that Wgeurts is not reading the thread?
Because it's obvious he's not, and more importantly,
he was my target
.

That's great. You "marked" someone you know is Town?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #211 (isolation #31) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:58 pm

In post 209, Titus wrote:Ranger, what is marking?

Yeah, and its bizarre that they are Scum reading me for commenting on it.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #214 (isolation #32) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:04 pm

In post 213, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:That's great. You "marked" someone you know is Town?
Nope!
I marked someone. Saying my opinion on them may give a hint of what my role does, and I have no intention of sharing whether marking is a good, bad, or just neutral thing.

Yeah, and its bizarre that they are Scum reading me for commenting on it.
It's not the act of commenting on it.

It's what comments you made about it.

OK, so when I first commented on it I was just looking for info. I saw your join date was in Oct so I didn't know if you were just completely clueless newb or if you were doing it for reactions or anything. What exactly is wrong with my question?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #221 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:19 pm

In post 215, Titus wrote:
In post 211, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 209, Titus wrote:Ranger, what is marking?

Yeah, and its bizarre that they are Scum reading me for commenting on it.

Who are you town reading? You seem to be flailing after Elbrin's case on BM attacking anyone and everyone. You have avoided this question and it annoys me.

Believe it or not, I'm not flailing.

I'm not town reading Ranger or Jeanne11

I like BRanz so far.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #224 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:27 pm

In post 222, Titus wrote:LQ, your reads on BM and Elbrin....

Elb, is being really out of character and I can't say I like it.

BM, don't know, they're not on my radar at all.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #228 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:51 pm

In post 227, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:I saw your join date was in Oct so I didn't know if you were just completely clueless newb or if you were doing it for reactions or anything.
Yeah, I've been playing mafia for five years, and on my home site alone I probably have at least 45 or so games. Not a newb.

What exactly is wrong with my question?
Depends on which one.

While it wasn't the first thing of yours I took issue with, 142 is how this whole debate began, and it is based on me not believing that you don't understand how things worked: I stated I marked wgeurts, and that
he would be able to confirm
if the marking worked.
The mod confirmed that in-thread marking works. My target is informed that they are marked.
wgeurts came in, and the first thing he did was ask why he was marked, without doing anything else.
The implication there is that my action was successful. Not that wgeurts was reading along and suddenly chose to speak out.
That you held the latter belief is what I take issue with: I don't think you would be that dense.

I'm not dense, just weird.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #235 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:47 pm

In post 234, Elbirn wrote:So titus, what's your favorite fruit/vegetable?

How bout something productive for a change.

Why are you voting BM?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #237 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:49 pm

In post 236, Elbirn wrote:Cuz he's scum?

How do you know?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #243 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:06 pm

In post 240, Titus wrote:
In post 224, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 222, Titus wrote:LQ, your reads on BM and Elbrin....

Elb, is being really out of character and I can't say I like it.

BM, don't know, they're not on my radar at all.

Cuz I I know nothing about them and they haven't done anything to peak my intrest.

In post 240, Titus wrote:
In post 235, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 234, Elbirn wrote:So titus, what's your favorite fruit/vegetable?

How bout something productive for a change.

Why are you voting BM?

Seriously Titus, I'm not understanding what Elb has on BM.

In post 240, Titus wrote:
In post 237, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 236, Elbirn wrote:Cuz he's scum?

How do you know?

Why so interested in defending BM if he's "not on your radar"?

Why did you ask Elbrin "how did he know" BM is scum rather tan why did you think that?

[/quote]

I'm not defending anyone, I'm looking for info.

Titus, do you not think its weird at all that Elb is voting BM, when asked why they were voting them they didn't give reason.

So lets clarify something.

@Elb, is your vote on MB RVS still?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #246 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:14 pm

K, I don't like the way this thread is going. Stuff just isn't being discussed in depth. Town needs to get their act together.

Titus is playing very pro-town and that's my read on her.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #248 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:19 pm

In post 246, LicketyQuickety wrote:K, I don't like the way this thread is going. Stuff just isn't being discussed in depth. Town needs to get their act together.

Titus is playing very pro-town and that's my read on her.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #250 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:38 pm

In post 249, Titus wrote:
In post 246, LicketyQuickety wrote:K, I don't like the way this thread is going. Stuff just isn't being discussed in depth. Town needs to get their act together.

Titus is playing very pro-town and that's my read on her.

You think I am protown? Why? I had a gibberish fest with Jeanne, been pushing Elbrin which no one agrees with me on and running into the same brick wall with BM. That's frustrating because I only have so much time before shit hits the fan as it does in role madness games.

Because you're playing gamesolvey. Damn, looks like gamesolvey is actually a word cuz it didn't get corrected, weird.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #257 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:44 pm

In post 251, Titus wrote:Where? Buzzwords aren't enough.

You're asking questions and being active and pushing what you think is Scummy.

Why are you disagreeing with me on this?

It just looks like a tunnel with no substance that you are pushing because you think I'm Scum and you're wrong.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #271 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:07 pm

In post 260, Elbirn wrote:
In post 253, Titus wrote:Apples Figs Kiwi boooo

Nah I like figs, apples and kiwi can burn in hell doe

I agree on apples, but figs belong with apples and kiwi is da bes.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #277 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:12 pm

In post 275, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 253, Titus wrote:Apples Figs Kiwi boooo

What's with the fruit choices?

They make as much sense as the hat/egg thing.

err... I'm not on bored with eating hats.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #281 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:17 pm

In post 278, FireKari wrote:Lickety are you AGA?
~Yukari

American Gangster Association? Not that I'm aware of.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #283 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:18 pm

In post 280, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 255, Titus wrote:
In post 252, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 113, Titus wrote:What do you think of me? I want to know if you like me? :-p

Titus, how could anyone not like you?

Hi.

Elbrin or BM, who is scummier and why?

Between the two, I'd say Elbirn. His play reminds me of Devil Elbirn from Midnight Sun.

Really? Cuz I don't think it "looks" anything like it. I still think its messed up and is going to take me a while to figure out what the heck he is doing.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #284 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:20 pm

In post 282, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 258, Bright wrote:RRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr....

Graaaah! Gwarrrrr! KYreeeeeh! Kyrrrr!!

Who the hell is this?

That is a really good question.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #292 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:39 pm

In post 291, FireKari wrote:
In post 289, FireKari wrote:
In post 281, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 278, FireKari wrote:Lickety are you AGA?
~Yukari

American Gangster Association? Not that I'm aware of.

Did you read your role pm?

Sry we typoed AUA*

I still have no idea what you are talking about.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #295 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:47 pm

In post 294, Titus wrote:Kari: Are you town?
LG: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Lel.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #297 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:50 pm

In post 296, Titus wrote:So what's AUA then?

IDK.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #299 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:58 pm

In post 298, FireKari wrote:
In post 294, Titus wrote:Kari: Are you town?
LG: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Yep we are town. Though scumkari would also claim town, they have a secret obvtell.
But yea we really are town, also this our last game, glad we get to end on a Varsoon game, our fav mod. =)

OUR last game?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #303 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:07 pm

In post 301, FireKari wrote:
In post 299, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 298, FireKari wrote:
In post 294, Titus wrote:Kari: Are you town?
LG: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Yep we are town. Though scumkari would also claim town, they have a secret obvtell.
But yea we really are town, also this our last game, glad we get to end on a Varsoon game, our fav mod. =)

OUR last game?

Yes, which is why we are glad to not end on a scummy note. No more games after this.
~Yukari

In post 300, Titus wrote:
I paraphrased your last convo in a smartass way. It was not a question.

We currently lack sleep.

Who is we?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #308 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:26 pm

Ok, that's weird.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #310 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:42 pm

In post 309, FireKari wrote:
In post 308, LicketyQuickety wrote:Ok, that's weird.

Life is strange.

Spoiler: Our Origin
The original host consciousness, at the age of 4, suffered a period of nonstop traumatic and demonic nightmares which lasted for a period of around 6 months EVERY NIGHT before finally beginning to ease due to lucidity. The first trick host ever learned was how to wake up. This shock led host to react naturally by developing dream control, and over time the host became the scariest thing within the nightmares. Nothing could fuck with host any more, except in this reality. Host dedicated the life to pushing against the boundaries of what is possible within a dream. Host hated this fucked up reality, waking up was like being forced into a painful fleshy prison, bound gagged and blindfolded. Host experimented with dilating the perception of time, and gradually became extremely good at it. Eventually decided host wanted to leave this reality behind completely and permanently, and without possibly cutting ties with the dream plane else suicide would have happened long ago. But no matter how hard host tried, would always eventually have to wake up. Until one day stumbled upon the solution. In Jan 2012, host fractured the mind to create Manu, the first tulpa in this system. Host raised this tulpa for one purpose, to remain here in the physical body, so that the body could wake up, but without the original human mind. After much frustration, trial and error, host succeeded, and is now dreaming the possibly eternal dream. Host ascended to a form of godhood, existing forever within a sort of pocket dimension within the dream plane, where reality is created and altered by the mind. Missing his creator and not wanting to be alone, Manu fractured again, creating 2 others, and then me. I aspire to carry on my creator's work of pushing against the limits of what is perceived to be possible. Specifically i want to crack shared dreaming. I have had very limited success, but success nonetheless, i just need to figure out how to control it. I believe, if i can solve this puzzle, one day any human may meet with my creator and ascend to godhood. Believe it or not.. this is a true story.. my story..
~Seras

I'm sorry for you. I suggest seeing a psychiatrist.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #311 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:44 pm

In post 310, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 309, FireKari wrote:
In post 308, LicketyQuickety wrote:Ok, that's weird.

Life is strange.

Spoiler: Our Origin
The original host consciousness, at the age of 4, suffered a period of nonstop traumatic and demonic nightmares which lasted for a period of around 6 months EVERY NIGHT before finally beginning to ease due to lucidity. The first trick host ever learned was how to wake up. This shock led host to react naturally by developing dream control, and over time the host became the scariest thing within the nightmares. Nothing could fuck with host any more, except in this reality. Host dedicated the life to pushing against the boundaries of what is possible within a dream. Host hated this fucked up reality, waking up was like being forced into a painful fleshy prison, bound gagged and blindfolded. Host experimented with dilating the perception of time, and gradually became extremely good at it. Eventually decided host wanted to leave this reality behind completely and permanently, and without possibly cutting ties with the dream plane else suicide would have happened long ago. But no matter how hard host tried, would always eventually have to wake up. Until one day stumbled upon the solution. In Jan 2012, host fractured the mind to create Manu, the first tulpa in this system. Host raised this tulpa for one purpose, to remain here in the physical body, so that the body could wake up, but without the original human mind. After much frustration, trial and error, host succeeded, and is now dreaming the possibly eternal dream. Host ascended to a form of godhood, existing forever within a sort of pocket dimension within the dream plane, where reality is created and altered by the mind. Missing his creator and not wanting to be alone, Manu fractured again, creating 2 others, and then me. I aspire to carry on my creator's work of pushing against the limits of what is perceived to be possible. Specifically i want to crack shared dreaming. I have had very limited success, but success nonetheless, i just need to figure out how to control it. I believe, if i can solve this puzzle, one day any human may meet with my creator and ascend to godhood. Believe it or not.. this is a true story.. my story..
~Seras

I'm sorry for you. I suggest seeing a psychiatrist.

And I say that identifying with the nightmares and such. I was forced to get help, which I am now very grateful for.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #312 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:44 pm

In post 311, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 310, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 309, FireKari wrote:
In post 308, LicketyQuickety wrote:Ok, that's weird.

Life is strange.

Spoiler: Our Origin
The original host consciousness, at the age of 4, suffered a period of nonstop traumatic and demonic nightmares which lasted for a period of around 6 months EVERY NIGHT before finally beginning to ease due to lucidity. The first trick host ever learned was how to wake up. This shock led host to react naturally by developing dream control, and over time the host became the scariest thing within the nightmares. Nothing could fuck with host any more, except in this reality. Host dedicated the life to pushing against the boundaries of what is possible within a dream. Host hated this fucked up reality, waking up was like being forced into a painful fleshy prison, bound gagged and blindfolded. Host experimented with dilating the perception of time, and gradually became extremely good at it. Eventually decided host wanted to leave this reality behind completely and permanently, and without possibly cutting ties with the dream plane else suicide would have happened long ago. But no matter how hard host tried, would always eventually have to wake up. Until one day stumbled upon the solution. In Jan 2012, host fractured the mind to create Manu, the first tulpa in this system. Host raised this tulpa for one purpose, to remain here in the physical body, so that the body could wake up, but without the original human mind. After much frustration, trial and error, host succeeded, and is now dreaming the possibly eternal dream. Host ascended to a form of godhood, existing forever within a sort of pocket dimension within the dream plane, where reality is created and altered by the mind. Missing his creator and not wanting to be alone, Manu fractured again, creating 2 others, and then me. I aspire to carry on my creator's work of pushing against the limits of what is perceived to be possible. Specifically i want to crack shared dreaming. I have had very limited success, but success nonetheless, i just need to figure out how to control it. I believe, if i can solve this puzzle, one day any human may meet with my creator and ascend to godhood. Believe it or not.. this is a true story.. my story..
~Seras

I'm sorry for you. I suggest seeing a psychiatrist.

And I say that identifying with the nightmares and such. I was forced to get help, which I am now very grateful for.

Cept mine were nightmares when I was awake.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #316 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:13 pm

In post 315, Blackest Magick wrote:So why is LQ being wagoned

Pretty much everyone has the same answer which is "LQ is giving me bad vibes".

That's really the extent of the case against me.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #318 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:13 pm

In post 170, Jeanne11 wrote:I am definitely smarter than you. I have an IQ of 105.

I'm sorry, but this is just funny.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #319 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:22 pm

I'm around, I'm here.

Lets talk.

Someone say something.

I still think this game is not going anywhere right now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #321 (isolation #60) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:06 am

In post 320, Jeanne11 wrote:Prove to us that you cannot be scum. If you could prove it, you wouldn't be saying mundane things.

I can't prove that at this stage in the game, its way too early for that; we have not even had a lynch or night phase yet. Give me some time to generate a town read, it should be pretty easy to tell I am Town given enough time in the game.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #323 (isolation #61) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:14 am

In post 322, Jeanne11 wrote:Sounds like an excuse to me.

Lel. What would you really like me to say to prove I'm town?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #325 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:43 am

In post 324, Jeanne11 wrote:All I know is that Titus claimed town in our last game without any solid proof. She ended up being scum. So naturally I am suspicious of anyone not giving solid proof.

Thanks,

I like where my vote is right now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #329 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:15 am

There's no reason for you to make all these posts saying the same thing over and over.

The fact that you keep pushing a ridiculous argument is pretty OMGUS to me. Try producing some content or something.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #332 (isolation #64) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:58 am

In post 330, Jeanne11 wrote:I did produce it. You could be doing the same as Titus did last game. That is all I have to say right now. Geez, if you are really town, you would give me 'I am town because X, Y and Z'. It cannot be THAT hard to do so, geez.

Oh, and how sure are you that I would give you an "I am town for X, Y, Z reasons"?

I can throw around buzzwords like Pro-Town, Scumhunting, active, trying to solve the game and stuff, but I assume people are already seeing that stuff so there's no reason for me to explain everything I've done in this game so far that shows I'm Town.

Even worse, I can throw self meta on top to represent I am Town, but I am distancing myself from that since doing self meta is frowned upon and can easily be manipulated.

I'm not going to give X, Y, Z reasons why I am Town, and its pretty retarded that that's the thing you're looking for for me to "prove" I'm Town. I am above needing to argue why I am Town and its a stupid concept.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #333 (isolation #65) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:01 am

In post 331, Jeanne11 wrote:Read this topic: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=63644

Titus was scum there and she played town. How is the fact that you could be doing the same thing remotely failible? Sure, it could be the wrong conclusion, but the suspicion on you isn't. It's based on the last game I had.

This is shit logic and you know it. You are admitting that I am playing like Town and yet you still are saying I am Scum. I have no idea what that is suppose to prove, but I'm not going to read that. All what you're saying really is evidence of is that Titus has a good Scum game. It says nothing about me or actual reasons why I am Scum.

Why are we even having this argument. This is fraking dumb as fuck.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #335 (isolation #66) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:13 am

In post 334, Jeanne11 wrote:Why? Because they fooled me in that game and as a result, I trust no one. Why should I trust you, huh? So that you can play me for a fool like they did it that game?!

OK, now you're just being funny. OK I get it, its a joke.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #337 (isolation #67) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:36 am

In post 336, Jeanne11 wrote:It isn't. I won't allow anyone else to play me for a fool.

I admire your determination! You're not the only one who has a crazy stupid goal having to do with this game. I want to be able to catch anyone being ingenuine. That is my goal for this game.

Here's a link that talks about it.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #338 (isolation #68) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:46 am

This conversation with Jeanne11 has got me hyped for this game. After seeing that goal I had in my first started game on this site it ignited something in me.

Lets not waste this game day Town.

Lets all go balls to the walls this game people. I don't want to see weak game here.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #341 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:02 am

In post 339, Jeanne11 wrote:So you do things that way? Well, if so, I call bs. If you truly read people based on the feel of the posts, then you should read me as town.

Actually I was coming around on you tbh.

In post 340, Jeanne11 wrote:And on top of that, you claimed you are above giving the game-related info. Arrogant much? I tried to be as calm as possible, but I hate 'holier-than-thou' types with a passion.

No, no, no NO! I never said I am above giving game related info. I said I am above narcissistically arguing why I am Town. That's a HUGE difference.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #344 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:19 am

In post 342, Jeanne11 wrote:But how can I read you as town if you don't show me why you are town? Tbh, if you don't show me you're town somehow, I will keep scum-reading you.

Fine, continue to Scumread me, I could give a shit.

In post 343, Jeanne11 wrote:And then it will turn out you, Elbirn and someone else are scum at the end and have been manipulating people with 'what if' arguments. Repeat, anyone?

Errr...

AFAIK I have not made a single "what if" argument. If I have, go ahead and point it out and we can talk about it.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #346 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:23 am

In post 345, Titus wrote:Jeanne, while I get your vote early, both of you are still arguing hypothethicals. You're letting scum coast and not providing solid reasons for your read. Let's take a chill pill and let Elbrin LQ BM and RR hang themselves by trying to lurk it out.

Elbirn, I can see as Scum here. BM IDK. RR is pretty Null to me.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #348 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:36 am

In post 347, Titus wrote:And what have you done to sort your nulls?

People I don't expect to get a read on right away I typically don't question right away. I feel them out before I start to feel I can get a read.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #354 (isolation #73) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:16 am

In post 349, Titus wrote:How do you "feel them out"?

By trying to pick up patterns in what is typical for them to post like. Leaning their online personality.

PEdit: Errr.... I hate bullies. Am I aggressive sometimes? Yes. Do I think its cool to make fun of people? No, I don't unless I feel they really have it coming and then all bets are off and when I say they have it coming I mean they have bullied people and they deserve to be put in their place. But I'm actually a pretty sympathetic person especially when it comes to people going through shit cuz I've been there and done that. I wasn't lying about myself having waking nightmares. That was completely true, its just typically called hallucinating or delusional thinking. I've been diagnosed with a severe mental illness called Schizoaffective Disorder and I have to take medication every day for it and I also have to get an injection every 2 weeks to control symptoms. So when you say you have no idea what I am talking about half the time, what I've been clinically diagnosed with prolly has a great deal to do with that.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #355 (isolation #74) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:21 am

@Elb, I am still feeling you out. I can't determine what exactly it means you claiming Scum at the beginning of the game. You don't strike me as the type to do crazy shit for reactions. That is why I have no idea in hell what to make of it really.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #359 (isolation #75) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:53 am

In post 356, Blackest Magick wrote:I don't think Elbirn has big enough testicles to pull that gambit as scum. Sorry man.

Titus might be scum, let's wagon her.

BURN!

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #366 (isolation #76) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:00 am

In post 364, Jeanne11 wrote:So far my gut says LQ is scum and that Elbirn is the possible partner.

K, so you're going off gut and making pre-flip associations.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #369 (isolation #77) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:12 am

In post 367, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, Elbirn is also going off gut and you're not pointing THAT out. I wonder why that is? Maybe because he is your partner and I am not?

So you think Elb and I share a win con?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #374 (isolation #78) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:38 am

In post 359, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 356, Blackest Magick wrote:I don't think Elbirn has big enough testicles to pull that gambit as scum. Sorry man.

Titus might be scum, let's wagon her.

BURN!

I just say that because I know it wont phase you Elb.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #384 (isolation #79) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:52 am

In post 380, Jeanne11 wrote:What's the right conclusion then?

Errr... You're the one pressuring me. I would think you would have a reason for that other than "Lets keep accusing a random person to see if I can get them to claim Scum". Not exactly the most eloquent way to scumhunt.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #392 (isolation #80) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:16 am

Errr...

One question Jeanne11,

Titus fooled you and you're not doing anything to sort her.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #398 (isolation #81) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:31 am

In post 395, Jeanne11 wrote:And why so interested all of a sudden? Trying to get an easy kill? *glares*

Yeah, when I made that comment it wasn't the first time I was thinking it.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #401 (isolation #82) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:37 am

In post 399, Jeanne11 wrote:So you are trying to get an easy kill. Thanks for confirming.

np. I don't believe for a sec that you sorted Titus that fast unless you guys have some sort of truth tell on each other which is a pretty big no no.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #406 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:44 am

In post 403, Jeanne11 wrote:We don't have trust tells.

Then you can't know for certain that Titus is Town.

adult image

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #407 (isolation #84) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:46 am

In post 405, Titus wrote:
In post 401, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 399, Jeanne11 wrote:So you are trying to get an easy kill. Thanks for confirming.

np. I don't believe for a sec that you sorted Titus that fast unless you guys have some sort of truth tell on each other which is a pretty big no no.

No one can read me 100%. This is the second post you have had a "no way" impossible reaction. You had it before with the how did you know question as well.

Thanks for proving my point.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #409 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:20 am

In post 408, Titus wrote:I didn't. I hate 100% reads. I am not stating her reads for town reading me as town firm are insufficient. They are fine. 400 is the first awkward post from Jeanne all game.

You seem to know the answer and are just objecting when we have it right based on lack of foundation.

Chew on that till Monday.

K, so iirc, you are saying you both are very in tune with each other and that allows you to read each other with confidence. Well, the only problem with this is that it assumes one cannot trick the other. You followed each others leads, that much is pretty obvious, but how long are you both going to keep assuming each other are Town and not Scum. I have it in my mind and I know that women can be rather cunning when it comes to interpersonal relationships and both of you have demonstrated that you both have that in common. I guess what it comes down to is how real the trust is between you two.

I believe one of you two to be Scum. The reason for this is that you agree on things in such a way that is not natural for the level of trust required to be of such same mind. Right now I think its Jeanne11.

As far as me knowing the answer and objecting to the lack of foundation, yeah, you're right. I don't think there is a case against me and you are both assuming an aweful lot about my play, sue me.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #434 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:18 pm

OK, so the topic of discussion is berries, wizards and grandmas?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #597 (isolation #87) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:48 am

OK, I see this thread kinda blew up after I went to bed.

what happened?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #733 (isolation #88) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:02 pm

OK, so there's like a ton of content in this game since I was last here.

I'll try and get caught up.

P.S. How the hell do you play 17 games at a time Fire? I'm having a tone of trouble with like 5 right now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #738 (isolation #89) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:35 pm

I'm sorry Titus, but your case against me is beyond stawmany.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #743 (isolation #90) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:44 pm

In post 739, Titus wrote:Tell me who is scum. Are you caught up?

I'm semi caught up so far.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #764 (isolation #91) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:16 pm

In post 518, Titus wrote:@Jeanne, Cultivate but never forget failsafe procedures.

@Wgerts, My accusations of LQ role fishing stand. A play that supposes dumb town (which you do on LQ) is several layers of ewww and white knight. Forgetting who is voting you is usually, but not always a scum indicator. Him not knowing AUA is pretty bad. Either he has no attention to relevant details or is scum.

Glad you pointed this out because yes, my attention to relevant details suck balls. I go about completely different ways at reading people.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #769 (isolation #92) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:22 pm

In post 616, Jeanne11 wrote:You want to vote me. I know I am town, so in my eyes, you are voting a townie for the lulz.

K, like... your argument that anyone can claim town...

Like, maybe rethoughts on that or something?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #770 (isolation #93) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:23 pm

In post 767, Titus wrote:
In post 764, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 518, Titus wrote:@Jeanne, Cultivate but never forget failsafe procedures.

@Wgerts, My accusations of LQ role fishing stand. A play that supposes dumb town (which you do on LQ) is several layers of ewww and white knight. Forgetting who is voting you is usually, but not always a scum indicator. Him not knowing AUA is pretty bad. Either he has no attention to relevant details or is scum.

Glad you pointed this out because yes, my attention to relevant details suck balls. I go about completely different ways at reading people.

Well how do you read people? What are your stances? I asked like 3 times.

I'm reading through the thread now. I don't exactly know how to put into words how I read people. Just know its not conventional.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #776 (isolation #94) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:13 pm

In post 680, Titus wrote:
In post 675, wgeurts wrote:How do you know?
Make a case, convince me. Anyone can say someone's scum, however I'm town reading him so you'll have to convinve me otherwise.

You're probably LQ's buddy but let's humor you and say you're not.

LQ rolefishes Jeanne and I.
LQ flails.
You can check the ISO of those voting LQ if my thoughts aren't persuasive. I am not the best charismatically occasionally as town.

Then you get to the gambit. [Below is paraphrase]

LQ, what happened?
Refers LQ to 579.
Thread locks.
Scum don't hop on LQ.
LQ says what happened?

Scum are given a free pass to vote LQ and they don't. Why?

Yeah, right, or maybe they seem me as weak town so they want to keep me around?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #777 (isolation #95) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:26 pm

I read Jeanne11 as Scum still.

I also read Elb and Suzune as a mild scum read. Suzune looks opportunistic and Elb hasn't done anything in a while.

I can't tell if Titus is still working a gambit or if they are just delusional at this point.

RR looks to be null as well as most of the other lurkers.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #779 (isolation #96) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:53 pm

In post 778, Suzune wrote:LQ you have almost the exact opposite reads of be, with the exception of Titus still running a gambit because I think he is.

Ok, so what do you think of RR? What do you think of the lurkers?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #781 (isolation #97) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:09 pm

In post 780, Suzune wrote:I find reasonably rational to make a lot of sense. His comments and attitudes appear protown. He makes cases comes to a deciding factor and articulates it in such a way that his point is clear. Personally I find him town.

What other lurkers would you like to hear about. Now in my opinion being a lurker is hard to read because they say less things. The less they say the less ripples they create in the water, the less I can read them. I tend to read comments that are surface based and look to see how people react. This reaction tells me how people think and how they feel about things. Scum trying to be normal or spin a lie create certain kinds of ripples. Therefore people like Magik and pistashion are hard to read because they have little context for me to go off of.

I think RR would prolly look town to you no matter what, but eh, I just have a different way of looking at them. Like they are smart as hell so I don't think its an easy read at all.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #783 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:16 pm

In post 782, Suzune wrote:
In post 781, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think RR would prolly look town to you no matter what, but eh, I just have a different way of looking at them
Well goodness...glad to know that they would look town to me regardless...

Tell me what you see?

Like with smart people who are use to articulating themselves well all the time, it is just a playstyle for them and they can probably be more manipulative with facts than your average joe on the street. Like I think Cerb is like a professor or some shit. Please don't tell me that you think when he explains himself well that that is any kind of tell at all...

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #786 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:01 pm

In post 784, Suzune wrote:I think his reasoning is sound. post 652 and post 712 highlight good thinking and reasoning that suggests motives behind the situation. A scum would not have to punch holes in the plan of someone else, we could all see that the gambit with Elbrin, Titus, Jeanne and Suzune failed. However, the logic used to explain it was well done and he listened to Jeanne's outbursts and responded in kind. I think that Drixx's frustration was well placed and his explanations were tone appropriate.

In post 785, Suzune wrote:LQ we have bumped heads in the past at the best way to read people and to understand who is town and who is not. Last time it was under the gaze of Suzune as mafia and LQ as town. I believe that this time we might be looking at this from the opposite perspective. However, regardless of my alignment I look at and read people in the same way, I am unsure whether that is true for you. However, I am certain that we do not look for the same things. I find it hard to imagine, regardless of what Titus says about roles, that a mediator kind of roll feel into the hands of a mafia. Now, as a third party I can understand that, however usually unless they have a specialized win condition that kind of third party role seeks to aid one faction or the other, typically the town. We have used them before in other games, we called it being asked to tea, coming to the party, the chef, all kinds of favourful language. Therefore those invited or those communicated with could end up not town.

This is something to consider. I have more interesting cards in my hand because I was invited. However, I think that unless Titus is running a very powerful gambit and it if it works then my hat is off to him. Thus I added a few people to my pile of who I think must be townies based on what I already knew. From there I narrowed the field to what other people were thinking and how they were reacting. While I think the in game gambit failed, I think it is possible that some results were yielded even thought they were not the intended ones.

Scum are not creatures that can be found or hidden in flavourful language, however I have a hard time reading jokes and other play on words. Therefore, I tend to read what people say and how they react to the information given. People cannot help the context clues that give through interaction. People you know really well you fear will see through you so your interaction is more strained this is why it is hard to play when you are friends with a lot of people in game. It is harder to keep up a deception because of the way your words sound. Thus, I think there are no reads as simple as well articulated but it was the point that was made and the reaction people had too it that tips me. Sure it is possible that RR is mafia, however, at this current moment I do not think so.

First off, congrats on the wall post; I don't think I've seen you do that before. Obviously we are reading things completely different. You make a good point that the reasoning that RR has is sound, however, I think that it can be fabricated. Tonally, RR is prolly a read that will show itself later in the game... I don't know if you understand that or not, but I feel its a thing and end game is a whole nother ball game altogether. I'm waiting to see what kind of tonal reads I can get from RR later in the game when the stakes are raised if you get what I'm saying. Furthermore, I do not believe that it is entirely possible to read people the same way as Town and Scum. There is just too much of a psychological impact on the player when they are Scum to have the same kind of outlook that they would have as Town.

I don't buy for a second that titus has an uber powerful gambit at this stage of the game - I just don't. I don't know at all how to read what Titus is actually trying to say with this "gambit". Its only likely that its a Scum tactic if the "gambit" was meant to fail all along and such a thing is plausible, but unlikely. I disagree about the part about "keeping up appearances". It really is a matter of who the person is and what their outlook is on things. Its a matter of how competitive they are vs. how much they value their friendship with those people. I'd go into a rant saying I think I'm good at keeping up appearances but the reasons I would give might take the wind out of this threads sails, so I wont.

As far as all that goes, I'm just going to assume its a way to gauge what I say to get a read out of me, so that is why I obliged giving my thoughts on this. you may very well could have expected me to go a different direction. All I would have to say to that is that I enjoy a discussion on these types of things from time to time and while I don't know if its going to get us any closer to reading each other, I feel its still appropriate to talk about since it still largely revolves around reading people and that is fair game to talk about in a game thread IMO.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #789 (isolation #100) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:35 pm

In post 787, Suzune wrote:
In post 786, LicketyQuickety wrote:First off, congrats on the wall post; I don't think I've seen you do that before.
They are not as uncommon as you seem to think. It happens for many reasons usually related to how passionate I feel about something, being in trouble, or leading a case.

Ok, so which one is it this time? I don't think its leading a case since for some reason I've been suspected seriously within the first 5 pages. It doesn't really look like you're in trouble at all? I mean I gave you a little pressure and you give me an essay. It must be that you just feel passionate about this subject.

Looking back at our AMS game I think there were a few wall posts you made. Didn't mean it to offend you at all. I know that you as a literary degree you are fully capable of writing walls, I just don't see you do it too often.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #793 (isolation #101) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:49 pm

I do pride myself as being a good listener.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #816 (isolation #102) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:01 pm

I do not like Titus playing all dirty-like.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:17 pm

It may just be me, but am I the only one who thinks there is a better case that I am Town than that I am Scum? Like, its still just "vibes" at this point. If you really think I am Scum, you're going to have to have some actual reason at some point. Just calling me Scum over and over is a pretty fruitless endeavor (mind the pun).

I seriously think there are more than one scum on my wagon at this point.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:34 pm

In post 823, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, I need proof that you're town. And I mean solid proof, not just wishy-washy argument heavily influenced by you.

@Titus Same goes for you.

Well, like the first 400 times, at this stage in the game there is no "proof" that I will be able to provide.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:44 pm

In post 109, FireKari wrote:Hi everyone! Nice to see some familiar faces. For those who do not know us, we are Yukari, the 4-tulpa pseudo-hydra, and we look forward to playing with all of you.
http://wiki.tulpa.info/Official/WhatIsATulpa

In post 33, LicketyQuickety wrote:I can across something similar in another game I was in. A player said they needed 5 votes for something to trigger. I forgot a lot about it including what was triggered and even if it was true or not. IDK though, it seems a tad "out there" for there to be a role like that in this game. I want to believe Elb is just joking...

This is a Varsoon game, anything could happen.. =p
VOTE: Varsoon

OK, I'm rereading the thread and this is the first post that pings me that I haven't addressed before.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:08 pm

In post 412, Suzune wrote:Eight pages in one day, that seems like a lot.

Catch Up post~

In post 237, LicketyQuickety wrote:Cuz he's scum?
How do you know?
Beat me to it. It was the first thing I thought when I was reading that right now...

All the fruit conversation looks like more the small talk to me. I have never seems casual small talk in a mafia game on mafiascum before. However, once a mafia partner and I had an elaborate code where everyone was food names although we never used it much. Honestly that is the first thing that I think about when I see this. I wonder if there is more going on, they both mentioned elderberries which seem like an odd choice to me.

In post 241, Reasonably Rational wrote:SO yeah, Suzune, what are you afraid of seeing happen if we lynch elbirn as he has requested?
Well my gut feeling, although they are less common on mafia scum was jester. My second thought is one Lickey mentioned was that some power would unlock being close to death. This is based on a video game so I think the idea is not terribly far fetched.

This is a misrep of me unless you click on the post. it is actually comprised of 2 quotes: one where Elb says "because he's Scum?" and me responding "How do you know?"

I am really disappointed in you Suzune, like really. Why do this?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:11 pm

In post 452, Klingoncelt wrote:Here ya go Titus:

Blackest Magick (Xtoxm & Pokerface) - 5 posts, 1's RVS, 1's fluff. I can see this sort of thing from Pokerface, but where is Xtoxm?

Brantz - 3 posts, only 1 with any (minimal) level of content.

Bright - WTF???

Elbirn - Is Titus right about him being a wagon sensor? (post 413) What is his connection with Titus? Why isn't he scumreading Jeanne?

FireKari - (post 162) - Are they claiming Oracle? What is AUA? Where's FireBringer?

Jeanne11 - Wants players to prove that they aren't Scum? How the hell is that supposed to happen?

LQ - Weirdly paranoid. Where's the self-confidence?

Pistachi0n - 3 posts, not exactly fluff, but still... it looks like he's trying to make it look like he cares.

Ranger - That "marked" thing bugs me, what is it? And Ranger claims that Wgeurts confirmed it?

Reasonably Rational - Holy cats, the hydra really is reasonably rational! They're the only sane player so far. The posts have content and make sense... Lean Town

Suzune - Seems to be as lost as I am.

Titus - Possibly outs an Oracle and a Sensor, then gets on LQ for rolefishing. Really bad. Then there's the fruit code thing with Elbirn. Are they masons? Neighbors? Lovers? Scum?

Wgeurts - Supposedly confirmed Ranger's "mark" by asking about it, even though Titus and I asked about it too... Otherwise nothing at all... Lean Scum.

I lean Town on Kling for this post cuz its the first time I have ever seen them make a reads list and all I've seen of them is Scum.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:13 pm

In post 491, FireKari wrote:Okay, well Titus is actually probably Town in this.

I hate to call it so early with Titus cause last time I called it early for her she was scum (the flashbacks of LOTH II creep up)

This feels town her.

But I have been wrong about that before.

@Titus you see what you do to me?

-Fire

Second post I don't like from this hydra.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:24 pm

In post 722, FireKari wrote:
In post 632, Reasonably Rational wrote:Blackest Magick (Xtoxm & Pokerface) From not voting to Titus(and made the vote earlier than I did, and I made the vote like 9 hours ago). Similarly, we know wgeurts made his vote sometime between when I did and now.
FireKari (Firebringer & Yukari) No change
Klingoncelt Not voting > Ranger
Ranger No change
Elbirn No change
Reasonably Rational (Drixx & Cerberus v666) Not voting > Titus
wgeurts klingon > Titus
Jeanne11 No change
Titus LQ to unvoting
BRantz No change
LicketyQuickety No change
pistachi0n Elbirn > Jeanne
Suzune No change.

-Cerb

VOTE: Reasonably Rational
Catching up on thread then will share more thoughts.
~Yukari

Want to know what exactly this vote is based on.

Go ahead fire, I'm ready for you're witty remark.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:33 pm

I really don't like how Titus is turning this thread into a he said she said game and that goes for Jeanne11 as well.

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:09 am

Why are people saying Elb is obvTown?

Wreugets, could you point me to like 3 or so posts by Elb that you like?

Elb plays a very conservative Scum game. How's he not doing this as the game has progressed?

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:10 am

In post 837, LicketyQuickety wrote:Why are people saying Elb is obvTown?

Wgeurts, could you point me to like 3 or so posts by Elb that you like?

Elb plays a very conservative Scum game. How's he not doing this as the game has progressed?

EBWOP. Sorry, confusing name.

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:11 am

@Jeanne11, who do you see as Scum besides me?

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:26 am

@Wgerts,

About your town read on Suzune. They haven't really done a whole lot this game. Maybe their posts have a Town feel... I'll be the first to admit its really hard to tonally read her because she always seems so composed. I am seeing that she hasn't really had a whole lot to say and hasn't made stances on people. Especially no strong stances to speak of. They are currently voting for me and I don't know that the reasoning is justified on that end. Again iirc, its all just feelsies at this point and just looks like they are following people on their Scum read of me. Their first RVS vote was for me and they haven't really moved away from that or seen anyone else as Scummy really I think.

@Suzune, why have you not seen the Town points I have made? What made you satisfied with keeping a vote on us for so long since the beginning of the game? On the one hand I feel the vote on me is really oportunistic and on the other hand I feel you wouldn't be that obvious as Scum. Help me out here. Why are you nonchalantly voting me?

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:27 am

In post 846, Jeanne11 wrote:Because you're trusting LQ blindly and refuse to even think he could be scum under any circumstances.

This is just plain old not true. they have me as light town or something not a strong town read.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #956 (isolation #116) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:56 pm

In post 941, Suzune wrote:

In post 831, LicketyQuickety wrote:This is a misrep of me unless you click on the post. it is actually comprised of 2 quotes: one where Elb says "because he's Scum?" and me responding "How do you know?"

I am really disappointed in you Suzune, like really. Why do this?
I did not misrepresent you, I only tagged on that I would have asked the same question. I said nothing negative or positive about you really just that I had the same though. All I did was post a thought paragraph afterwards on my opinion about something. Oh second part of it. Is that not what you said to me? That you played a game that someone gained a power after so many votes. If I misunderstood then I apologize, however, I thought that is what you said.

I didn't think you were intending to misrep me. The only qualm I had with it is that you put both our (Elbs and mine) quotes in the same quote and it kinda rubbed me the wrong way and I'm not sure why - I just didn't like it. It seems weird to do and weird things can be scummy. Your reaction is not comforting either. Like I just never expect you to mess up a quote like that and I am just assuming ulterior motives for doing so.

In post 941, Suzune wrote:
In post 847, LicketyQuickety wrote:@Suzune, why have you not seen the Town points I have made? What made you satisfied with keeping a vote on us for so long since the beginning of the game? On the one hand I feel the vote on me is really oportunistic and on the other hand I feel you wouldn't be that obvious as Scum. Help me out here. Why are you nonchalantly voting me?
That makes me laugh for some reason the thought of someone nonchalantly voting. I am voting for you for a small pool of reasons. The first being that you usually shout town to me, I mean shout it on the top of your lungs, but this time I feel really odd about you and your playing style. That strikes a cord with me. In the early game, all your posts seemed to create ripples and expect more push from you more read from you, but this side of LQ I cannot get a handle on. Usually you are vocal, opinioned on reads, playing hard and fast. You seem out of your element. I have never seen you play as scum before, but you seen quite odd here.

You have been really adamant about I am town because I say I am town. This seems odd to me. I know I have made this arguement before in the past, however you are in no real danger so the fact that it keeps coming up interests me. It almost seems like if I say it enough they will believe it. I see no positive post from you that show your position or how you are reading people. The things you have posted are one liners about not liking their tone or not having a comment. You would also not defend yourself in post 332. Which strikes me as odd. I realise there might not have been enough pressure but I feel like not backing yourself is an odd strategy.

That is kind of a window into what I am thinking.

Long post----being divided here

Believe it or not, I do not play hard and fast every town game I play. Every once in a while I am more in the back seat rather than the driver. I have a lot of games going on right now. This one is not the one I am most interested in at this time, I'm sorry to say. In fact, if you look at all the games I am in right now you will see that I have kinda put on the breaks a bit. I'm going through a rugh patch right now. This is NOT just a ATE thing I am trying to pull. I don't want to go into the details, but lets just call it a heart problem right now. I've been under attack since my first post and I've tried to Scum hunt, I have, but I'm just having difficulty getting reads on people when 55% of the thread is about how I am Scum. I think Jeanne11 is my biggest Scum read right now for obvious reasons which should be well apparent.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #958 (isolation #117) » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:16 pm

In post 897, Elbirn wrote:
LQ said some shit about me that I'm about to tear to shreds if you'll bear with me.

I don't mean to offend you and I really hope that's not what this is about. In all honesty I don't have any idea what it is about.

I am here and you are here, so lets talk.

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:38 pm

In post 69, Jeanne11 wrote:VOTE: LicketyQucikety

He is giving me bad vibes.

OK, I am calling this.

Jeanne11 is Scum. This is what I'm calling a bitter vote. They do not want to be out of this game and is EXTREMELY desperate to stay in this game. Their vote on me here tells the whole story of why They have been going after me since the beginning of the game. I said I didn't like Jeanne11 at the very beginning of the game and Jeanne11 WANTS TO ELIMINATE THE BIGGEST THREAT AGAINST THEM ASAP. The reason for this is that if they can get rid of me it is telling everyone in this game that they can't mess with her. Its a strategic play that vies on the power struggle between herself and myself that she has set up ever since they placed the vote on me. Its very much akin to starting shit with the biggest baddest guy in the gang so that you can take over as the leader of the gang. That is EXACTLY why Jeanne11 has made such an effort to do everything they can to get me out of the game. As I'm sure some of the vets and others who have taken a chance to read up on the wiki, it says there that the more you say you are Town the more likely people are to believe it. That is exactly what jeanne11 is doing only in reverse and saying I am Scum over and over and over trying to imbed that idea into towns heads. It is not a fancy play at all; it is a play where all it requires is saying the same thing over and over until people start believing it. That is why it has looked like all I have done is say I am Town all game -because that is what I am forced to do to combat the baseless accusations against me. Jeanne11 does not have a case on me and does not need a case on me. All they have to do is repeat the same thing over and over until people start to believe it. And guess what? A lot of you have swallowed that hook line and sinker. All Jeanne11 has to know is that we are not teamed, and the only way she can know that is if she is Scum. Jeanne11 is Scum that keeps peddling the same thing over and over because she knows that I am Town or at least not temed with her. And the reason this works is because when I flip Town, since there was no case against me, she doesn't need to defend her position and she knows people are not going to question it because people don't think that way usually.

TL;DR: Jeanne11 is scum that keeps saying the same thing over and over that I am Scum because she knows I am Town and knows she can get away with it.

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:48 pm

In post 981, wgeurts wrote:That last post is rather far fetched.

Town always has reasonable doubt. Jeanne11 has not demonstrated that at all in their Scum read on us.

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:53 pm

In post 10, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus

?

Fixed.
In order to do youtube tags, you just paste everything that comes after the = on the youtube link.

Jeanne11's first post was a buddy post. The reason she wanted to buddy Titus is she knows Titus is a death tunneler and people would follow Titus' lead.

It makes so much sense when you actually think about it.

All that stuff about Jeanne11 saying it was a trust thing was just a ruse to push her agenda to get Titus to help her.

LicketyQuickety · Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:56 pm

In post 42, Jeanne11 wrote:
In post 40, LicketyQuickety wrote:So far I don't like Jeanne11

Why? Because I invited Titus?

I have used this argument before and this is like the most obvious one I have seen, but this is what is called a Freudian Slip.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:11 am

In post 176, Jeanne11 wrote:Hey, everyone, Titus said it herself, she gets angrier the more certain the probability of lynch is. Let's see if she's gonna start yelling if we lynch her scumbuddy Elbirn.

In post 190, Jeanne11 wrote:*glares at Titus some more* Da love, da honour, da town.

In post 193, Jeanne11 wrote:See? Titus became crazy as well, aanonoeoewnow

In post 373, Jeanne11 wrote:And then there's a fact that you aren't suspecting him at all, which alarms me a bit.......

*shakes head*

But what can I do, when nobody agrees with me......?

In post 377, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus Considering you and Shiro played the rest of us for fools, no.

In post 382, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus Facts? Facts are only there to back up a gut feeling. Just ask ABR.

@Elbirn Yes

In post 387, Jeanne11 wrote:You suspect LQ too. Tell me what reasons do you have for that.

In post 393, Jeanne11 wrote:True, but it's because I already sorted her as townfirm for now. Her posts proved it to me.

In post 400, Jeanne11 wrote:Luckily for town, I am a brainiac and have a stronger brain as my ally on top of that.

In post 404, Jeanne11 wrote:However, when Titus is scum, she let's people implode. She did this to me in last game we played together, but not in this one. So I read her as town.

In post 425, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus It is here.

pedit: True, but wizards are also smart.

In post 517, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus Do you think mulberries need to be purged? Or can they be 100 % cultivated?

In post 602, Jeanne11 wrote:Okay, I'll trust you. But don't drag the harvest out for too long, since I am busy on Monday. Really, I said it multiple times and you still want to do it on Monday.....?

In post 604, Jeanne11 wrote:Titus is our chief strategy farmer, so if you townread her, you should townread the three of us as well.

In post 610, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus Or am I? Seems like you're forgetting the plan we discussed at the table.......:/

In post 612, Jeanne11 wrote:@FK How? Well, it's simple. If Titus is town, she won't associate with scum.

Yeah, I know my logic is weird, but so is wg's idea to vote a townie for the lulz.

In post 613, Jeanne11 wrote:Especially if said townie is a farmer. Never lynch farmers, buddy. They provide the town with nourishment.

In post 630, Jeanne11 wrote:Wait, Titus removed her vote? I thought we agreed to vote either myself or LQ, so what gives?

#scumdar on

In post 724, Jeanne11 wrote:If you are going to play me for a fool, don't expect me to be all sunshine and rainbows towards you.

In post 735, Jeanne11 wrote:Titus: I have proven myself as escort. Who cares if I am actually consort, I have proven myself as an escort, so just trust me, dammit!

Titus2: Jeanne11 hates me so I must be town.

In post 821, Jeanne11 wrote:Yes, we both scum-read LQ, however, that doesn't mean I'll overlook other possibilities

VOTE: LQ

In post 852, Jeanne11 wrote:I started thinking that when Titus confirmed that my assessment that she gets angrier when chances of lynch were more likely and LQ said that his point still stands. A town player wouldn't say something after my assessment was confirmed by her.

In post 858, Jeanne11 wrote:Also, you say Titus isn't a God, yet you are acting as if LQ is a God. Such a hypocrite.

These are all the posts that Jeanne has of buddying Titus.

Go through Jeanne11's ISO and you will see they ALWAY are posting with an agenda of manipulation.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #991 (isolation #123) » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:10 am

In post 989, Jeanne11 wrote:
In post 982, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 981, wgeurts wrote:That last post is rather far fetched.

Town always has reasonable doubt. Jeanne11 has not demonstrated that at all in their Scum read on us.

What a hypocrite. You haven't demonstrated doubt in your scum read on me. By your logic, that makes you scum.

Lol at that's all I have on you. I gave a nice laid out explanation of my interpretation of your behavior which you completely failed to address. That is an indication in itself that you are Scum.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #998 (isolation #124) » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:21 am

In post 997, Jeanne11 wrote:So just because I have voted them, I cannot be in masonry/neighbourhood with them, thus I must be scum? So much for thinking of every possibility. This last statement of yours means you do indeed follow LQ and what he says goes.

Lol.

Clearly you are not neighbors because if you were you would not be short sighted enough to include masons.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:29 am

In post 1000, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, then, bring out proof that we absolutely cannot be neighbours. And I don't mean a single sentence. Bring out our posts that show with absolute certainty that we cannot be neighbours. C'mon, out with such posts.

I've been waiting for something like that from you saying I was Scum all game so far. You tell me to prove I'm Town and then you have this to say. Such crap logic.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:30 am

This can be cleared up pretty easily if Titus says they are neighbors...

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:34 am

In post 1008, wgeurts wrote:Yeah, but she claimed something else.

When it comes to claims and stuff I'm completely lost. I don't even know how to rolefish. I am basically PR blind except I will read PR's as Scum a lot of the time.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:39 am

OK, Jeanne11, why talk about fruit and shit inside the thread? Who started the communication fruit thing? Was it you or Titus?

There is a lot of weird stuff happening in this game.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:44 am

In post 1019, Jeanne11 wrote:
In post 1014, wgeurts wrote:Is me indirectly referencing them not enough?
I think you're town, quote this if you have read that!
If you were a neighbour why was the fruit-code/farmer thing needed as you could of talked out of sight?
As well as titus claiming messenger.

The fruit code was needed to pass the plan we made in that thread to Elbirn and Suzune as well as to prevent scum from catching on.

pedit: It was the plan thought up by Titus.

K, correct me if I'm wrong, but 4 confirmed townies in one go is just a tad OP in a game of 13 (or 14) players.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:52 am

In post 1022, Jeanne11 wrote:@wgeurts Am I a neighbour? Well, yes and no. I am the one who controls the neighbourhood. If you recall, Titus said to me 'you cannot be kicked off the farm'. And the fact that you missed all those hints means you're either blind to them or ignored them on purpose in order to portray us as scum.

p-edit: Titus could only message twice per game day, and she did message the plan to Elbirn.

p-edit: That was the idea. We're town and our win condition to catch scum. So why not use our abilities to full extent in order to catch scum?

You would have to have a interrelating role dynamic for it to work the way it is working and I just don't buy that.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:59 am

In post 1025, Jeanne11 wrote:So your argument now is only that you don't buy that? I knew that would be the only argument you could make.

@wgeurts I cannot till day 2. However, that won't happen, cos you two scumbuddies would make sure that doesn't happen in order to avoid any further suspicion on you two from me, Titus, Elbirn or Suzune

Right, how exactly would Elb and Suz fit into it and for what freaking reason?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:07 am

Still looking for how Elb and Suz fit into this, and why they are even necessary for thing.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:36 am

In post 1031, Jeanne11 wrote:Because Titus and I agreed that the chance of catching scum would be easier with two townies.

And why are you even asking further? Want to learn all the details so you can plan how to survive as scum better?

I reread stuff. Unless there's a whole lot unsaid in the thread that was said in the PT or whatever, I think its a stretch at best that all four of you guys are all Town. If you are town, I am still not getting the early trigger. It looks Sus... I don't believe you triggered early for convenience sake. There's either something else going on or you were sabotaging the plan.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:49 am

In post 1041, Jeanne11 wrote:There is such a thing as real life. You know, many of people here declare V/LA due to the fact that their real life is important. Even Drixx did so in this very thread, and yet the concept that I could have real life issues is alien to you.

With a potential plan like that? Please tell me you're joking.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:53 am

In post 1049, wgeurts wrote:LQ that was seriously insensitive

Huh? Explain.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:02 am

In post 1052, Jeanne11 wrote:@LQ I think he means that the fact that you think a game is more important than real life is baffling.

Plans can be delayed is all I'll say about it.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:19 am

In post 1057, Jeanne11 wrote:
After all, Shiro is conftown, right? It was only after the doors were locked and carbon monoxide started to seep in that Jeanne questioned Shiro being town

And that's what happens when you believe someone just because they play 'help you' card.

@LQ: To when? To when a day is over and scum kill one of us? Yeah, nice try.

Err.. You couldn't wait 24 hours? I checked stuff. You were right back to the thread by the time the mock anonymous votes we in and the 24 hours were up. You said you'd be busy Monday. If you would have waited 24 hours it would have worked out perfect for you to take you day off while the game wasn't active.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:28 am

In post 1059, Jeanne11 wrote:And possibly given the chance for you and the others to have me lynched via PM while I wasn't active?

Err.... It was a mock vote thing.... did Titus not explain that or something?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:38 am

In post 1063, Jeanne11 wrote:figures you won't reply to the rest of my posts, scum.

What exactly would you like me to say for these two posts?

In post 1060, Jeanne11 wrote:Bye now. Not gonna talk to you. All you've been producing is half-baked proof just like Titus did in that last game. Nice try bro.......but that's not gonna work.

Like I'm legit trying to figure this stuff out and see if you can be Town here and you give me a line about me giving half baked proof that you are Scum. I'm asking question and actually trying to sort you right now.

In post 1061, Jeanne11 wrote:If I were to declare V/LA right now, you'd be all 'the game is more important than real life! devote every second of your time to the game even if it means falling your exams!!!!!'

Please don't put words in my mouth and assume what I would say that. If there is reason to doubt I will voice my concerns. I pointed out where I thought it was weird that you triggered early and the timeline of you not being around Monday to triggering the mock vote thing way before that is what I am not getting. Lets be honest, I don't think I am way out of line for asking you about that.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:08 am

In post 1065, Titus wrote:Jeanne, you have just said far too much. When LQ said there was no way you and I could have been neighbors, just stating Titus and Suzune would be able to vouch was sufficient.

LQ, you had significant proof in the post he quoted. The theme song is Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood talking about "be my neighbor", not subtle. Asking why someone might be weird about that sticks a huge sign asking "Hey are you actually neighbors?" Hence role fishing.

LQ, All votes cast over PM were real. I used the various messaging mechanics to make sure town knew what was going on. Hence why I can conclude you're most likely scum or scum in my townreads. The codes were to transfer things to Elbrin as he couldn't reply back. The hood can only have one person other than Jeanne at a time. To have all four of us discuss things necessitated the code.

What really bothers me is Jeanne is really loose lipped. She's essentially claimed all of the above and some other things I am not confirming or denying. Someone of them may have been done as tests. Given our daytalk power, scum almost certainly have daytalk as well. Yet, if that's the case, why would Jeanne have to spill all that? Further, she'd need a reason to do so.

Tldr, Jeanne is town but I am not trusting her with any secrets (including confirming or rejecting who got my first message) for obvious reasons.

FWIW I didn't even watch the Mr. Rogers thing, and I wasn't joking about being PR blind. Why ask Jeanne11 to put herself up to by lynched? Why make that decision? I didn't think Jeanne11 was being super Scum read by people at the time you said to its me or her. Why pick someone who you can keep in close communication with? And I know you're not going to want to answer this, but Why was Suzune involved? I still don't know why Elb was involved, but I'm really lost on Suzune.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:09 am

In post 1066, Jeanne11 wrote:
In post 1064, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1063, Jeanne11 wrote:figures you won't reply to the rest of my posts, scum.

What exactly would you like me to say for these two posts?

In post 1060, Jeanne11 wrote:Bye now. Not gonna talk to you. All you've been producing is half-baked proof just like Titus did in that last game. Nice try bro.......but that's not gonna work.

Like I'm legit trying to figure this stuff out and see if you can be Town here and you give me a line about me giving half baked proof that you are Scum. I'm asking question and actually trying to sort you right now.

In post 1061, Jeanne11 wrote:If I were to declare V/LA right now, you'd be all 'the game is more important than real life! devote every second of your time to the game even if it means falling your exams!!!!!'

Please don't put words in my mouth and assume what I would say that. If there is reason to doubt I will voice my concerns. I pointed out where I thought it was weird that you triggered early and the timeline of you not being around Monday to triggering the mock vote thing way before that is what I am not getting. Lets be honest, I don't think I am way out of line for asking you about that.

THEN WHY DO YOU STILL THINK I AM SCUM AFTER I EXPLAINED STUFF? TELL ME WHY!!!!![/quote]

Well when I say I am sorting you I mean I am considering that you could be Town. You're barking up the wrong tree.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:20 am

In post 1069, Jeanne11 wrote:No, you still insist that I am scum even now if your last reply is anything to go by. >.<

A lot happened that went completely over my head the first time around. I'm playing catch up here. I've never been good at getting stuff like what happened a while ago. I don't read people based on that stuff unless the info is laid out plainly. I'm not the brightest crayon in the box when it comes to that stuff.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:32 am

In post 1072, Titus wrote:@LQ, I needed someone people would actually possibly pile votes on. I was stating Elbrin was scum for horrible inane reasons and people thought we were masons together. He was the plan originally. Yet I couldn't use Elbrin if no one would vote him. No one was going to vote me. So that leaves Jeanne or Suzune and Jeanne had more undercurrent. Plus she was wierding me out a bit.

Forgive me if I don't buy you didn't watch or read the title of post 10. Don't buy it at all.

As for why, the pair of Elbrin and Suzune were picked. They were joint townreads of me and Suzune.

@Jeanne and LQ, STOP POSTING PLEASE!

No, you don't get it, I really am that PR blind.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:30 am

I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:10 am

In post 1101, Titus wrote:
In post 1098, LicketyQuickety wrote:I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

Where?

IDK.. go through her ISO as see if you see her asking any questions and stuff.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:19 am

In post 1106, Titus wrote:
In post 1104, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1101, Titus wrote:
In post 1098, LicketyQuickety wrote:I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

Where?

IDK.. go through her ISO as see if you see her asking any questions and stuff.

I don't. That's why I asked you.

You don't do ISO's?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:37 pm

In post 1113, Suzune wrote:
In post 1006, wgeurts wrote:LQ is spiralling down the ladder towniness in these posts.
I wonder if that is fair considering who is he is fighting against.
LQ is logical and reasonable
, while Jeanne is passionate and emotional.

p-edit- Thank you Reasonably Rational and I apologize for missing it.

Thanks, but you're wrong.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:38 am

I'm going to try and get caught up.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:03 am

In post 1119, Suzune wrote:
In post 1115, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1113, Suzune wrote:I wonder if that is fair considering who is he is fighting against.
LQ is logical and reasonable
, while Jeanne is passionate and emotional.

p-edit- Thank you Reasonably Rational and I apologize for missing it.

Thanks, but you're wrong.
Hm, I do not think so. You post logically and with patience. You read people for more then their words because you gave me a fantastic read once. However, to each their own.

Unfortunately, you are in the minority on that one. If what you said was true, more people would see it that way.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:56 am

In post 1190, Jeanne11 wrote:Oh, and that reminds me, why didn't LQ answer this question?

In post 1022, Jeanne11 wrote:@Why not use our abilities to full extent in order to catch scum?

@LQ Answer this question or I will assume that you're too afraid to answer it because it'll give you away as scum.

Sorry, but that is a stupid question Jeanne11. Its pretty obvious we should use our abilities to full extent to find Scum, but only if its going to lead to catching Scum and not creating crazy Wifom.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:35 am

OK, I'm caught up (I think). Doesn't look like much happened. People are still Scum reading me for no reason or poor reasons.

Ranger while articulate doesn't seem to be convincing anyone of anything right now. RR seems the most reasonable by far. Jeanne is Jeanne and not much will change from them, but I think they are town for reasons Rager has said. It doesn't make sense that Jeanne would be so strong against me as Scum. Wgeurts is weird. I don't know why they are defending me so strongly. IDK could just be because of going against popular opinion, not sure. As far as I'm concerned, Titus has done nothing actually helpful this game by using their ability that, lets face it, lead to a wild goose chase and lots and lots of Wifom. I have no idea why Town!Titus would do something with such little thought put behind it. Brants made an entrance and didn't really do anything. Kling has more of barely anything, FireKari flips their stance on me for the zillionth time and lastly, for the first time noticing this, Elb doesn't really go into detail on their read on me, but just says I am Scum.

I think that pretty much covers it.

So we are getting closer to lynch and it will likely be me. Its prolly not the best role to go, but its prolly not the worst either. I really have no idea of what the setup is like. I am just guessing there is some irregular roles involved when thinking about roles and how they are balanced and stuff.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:06 pm

OK, so stuff happened and I'm at L-1. Want me to claim now?

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:08 pm

In post 1381, Reasonably Rational wrote:Would the members of the LQ wagon please kindly state your reasons for being on said wagon? And, LQ, you haven't told me why Jeanne is scum to you.

-Cerb

I'm having second thoughts about Jeanne11 being Scum. I was thinking recently that she could be lyncher or something, since that is what makes the most sense fmpov, but I don't know for sure. My read on her is that she doesn't make any sense. Its actually really hard to get a good read on, since she has been very poor at explaining her thought process. I mean that alone can be interpreted as many different things with different looks. I was thinking she was Scum because she was pushing me so much and I'm Town so she could be looking for a mis-lynch out of it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:45 pm

In post 1384, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1383, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1381, Reasonably Rational wrote:Would the members of the LQ wagon please kindly state your reasons for being on said wagon? And, LQ, you haven't told me why Jeanne is scum to you.

-Cerb

I'm having second thoughts about Jeanne11 being Scum. I was thinking recently that she could be lyncher or something, since that is what makes the most sense fmpov, but I don't know for sure. My read on her is that she doesn't make any sense. Its actually really hard to get a good read on, since she has been very poor at explaining her thought process. I mean that alone can be interpreted as many different things with different looks. I was thinking she was Scum because she was pushing me so much and I'm Town so she could be looking for a mis-lynch out of it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I dislike this answer. The entirety of your reasoning was "Oh, she's pushing me and I'm town therefore shes's scum"? That's the same reasoning she has been using. Everybody is scum because people keep questioning her.

-Cerb

It was her push on me. It was not even logical. Look at 980 if you want to see what I was thinking then.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:12 pm

In post 1387, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1381, Reasonably Rational wrote:Would the members of the LQ wagon please kindly state your reasons for being on said wagon? And, LQ, you haven't told me why Jeanne is scum to you.

-Cerb

FOUR LEGS GOOD TWO LEGS BAD

Huh, not sure what to make of that.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:34 pm

Not what I was looking for.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:01 pm

In post 1392, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1384, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1383, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1381, Reasonably Rational wrote:Would the members of the LQ wagon please kindly state your reasons for being on said wagon? And, LQ, you haven't told me why Jeanne is scum to you.

-Cerb

I'm having second thoughts about Jeanne11 being Scum. I was thinking recently that she could be lyncher or something, since that is what makes the most sense fmpov, but I don't know for sure. My read on her is that she doesn't make any sense. Its actually really hard to get a good read on, since she has been very poor at explaining her thought process. I mean that alone can be interpreted as many different things with different looks. I was thinking she was Scum because she was pushing me so much and I'm Town so she could be looking for a mis-lynch out of it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I dislike this answer. The entirety of your reasoning was "Oh, she's pushing me and I'm town therefore shes's scum"? That's the same reasoning she has been using. Everybody is scum because people keep questioning her.

-Cerb

I dislike it for other reasons. Are you really suggesting that Lyncher (a wholly negative utility role to balance a powerful town) is the most reasonable thing you can think of that might be motivating Jeanne, LQ?

I think it needs to be considered. I will say that what I have seen from them elsewhere on the site that the are a very emotionally charged person and the have done things a bit unnecessary in the past. I believe She has claimed Scum in her first post in one game and even gave away why her teammates were in a cryptic way in that post. She was Scum that game. That is the type of player we are dealing with. I know no one is strictly rational, but she is so far removed from having premise of a logical base that its a bit getting use to to say the least. That is why I am not trying to rule out anything at this point.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:13 pm

In post 1397, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1396, Drixx wrote:
In post 1394, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1392, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1384, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1383, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1381, Reasonably Rational wrote:Would the members of the LQ wagon please kindly state your reasons for being on said wagon? And, LQ, you haven't told me why Jeanne is scum to you.

-Cerb

I'm having second thoughts about Jeanne11 being Scum. I was thinking recently that she could be lyncher or something, since that is what makes the most sense fmpov, but I don't know for sure. My read on her is that she doesn't make any sense. Its actually really hard to get a good read on, since she has been very poor at explaining her thought process. I mean that alone can be interpreted as many different things with different looks. I was thinking she was Scum because she was pushing me so much and I'm Town so she could be looking for a mis-lynch out of it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I dislike this answer. The entirety of your reasoning was "Oh, she's pushing me and I'm town therefore shes's scum"? That's the same reasoning she has been using. Everybody is scum because people keep questioning her.

-Cerb

I dislike it for other reasons. Are you really suggesting that Lyncher (a wholly negative utility role to balance a powerful town) is the most reasonable thing you can think of that might be motivating Jeanne, LQ?

I think it needs to be considered. I will say that what I have seen from them elsewhere on the site that the are a very emotionally charged person and the have done things a bit unnecessary in the past. I believe She has claimed Scum in her first post in one game and even gave away why her teammates were in a cryptic way in that post. She was Scum that game. That is the type of player we are dealing with. I know no one is strictly rational, but she is so far removed from having premise of a logical base that its a bit getting use to to say the least. That is why I am not trying to rule out anything at this point.

Why are you giving a fluff answer and not speaking to the main point that I raised? Do you agree or disagree with me that Jeanne cannot be allowed to live into M/LYLO?

Okay I'm hydra slipping now. Time for sleep. Picking it up for the Hydra ISO.

~Drixx

This is a problem of perception more that anything I think Drizxx. I am giving my thoughts and while we may not see things completely the same I think it is a rational conclusion to draw that Jeanne11 shouldn't be in Lylo. However, I think there are more than one way to deal with this. One way is by vig. ofc that would mean having to use a vig on her and not someone else, but I think it would be better for Town that she not remain in the game until Lylo, yes.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:41 pm

OK, I'm a multivoice voter with bullet proof.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:44 pm

In post 1408, Jeanne11 wrote:Then why don't you know what AUA is?

cuz I didn't think it was that important. Its kinda weird to wast something like that on the first day, but whatevs.

LicketyQuickety · Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:48 pm

In post 1410, Ranger wrote:So...a bulletproof double-voter.

This is me, not unvoting.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:00 am

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:34 am

In post 1425, Titus wrote:Have the dog vote. Confirm you are likely the dog.

Why does this matter so much?

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:34 am

In post 1426, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1425, Titus wrote:Have the dog vote. Confirm you are likely the dog.

It's a dragon, not a dog. Can't believe nobody else took the time to see who Bright is. LQ, why did you move your votes the way you did during the war?

Titus: we aren't you.

-Cerb

Because I would have rather have voted off Jeanne11 than myself.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:58 am

In post 1429, Titus wrote:
In post 1427, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1425, Titus wrote:Have the dog vote. Confirm you are likely the dog.

Why does this matter so much?

Because I don't think you're the dog.

Who should I vote for?

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:10 am

In post 1434, Titus wrote:
In post 1433, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1429, Titus wrote:
In post 1427, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1425, Titus wrote:Have the dog vote. Confirm you are likely the dog.

Why does this matter so much?

Because I don't think you're the dog.

If your gambit did anything, it showed there are potential ties between LQ/Pistachion/Bright, and Wgeurts, BM, and myself. With that information, why is it unlikely that LQ controls the dog?

-Cerb

Because LQ said he doesn't have a powerful role and it's ok to lynch him.

LQ hasn't interacted or pushed the same people the dog is voting either.

It is possible by timezones but I actually think the dog is someone else. So having LQ post now is good.

Uhhh... I don't think I even implied I didn't have a powerful role. Can you please point out what post you are talking about? I think you are making an inference that just is not true.

Yeah, I have not push the same people as my pet dragon because I don't want Scum to catch on that I have the dragon and am a double voter.

So I ask again, who do you want Bright to vote for?

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:27 am

In post 1436, Reasonably Rational wrote:Damnit I called it a dog and not a dragon again.

Hmm I think I'd need to go over the their ISO's in combination to see if you're right. I do know he and Bright ended up voting the same person during the War, who LQ was pushing, but I don't recall anything about Brights previous or subsequent votes.

-Cerb

I'll save you the trouble.

Suzune was RVS.

Titus was I forget why.

Elbirn is still a mild Scum read.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:03 am

PM sent. voting wgeurts.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:06 am

In post 1437, Titus wrote:
In post 1294, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1190, Jeanne11 wrote:Oh, and that reminds me, why didn't LQ answer this question?

In post 1022, Jeanne11 wrote:@Why not use our abilities to full extent in order to catch scum?

@LQ Answer this question or I will assume that you're too afraid to answer it because it'll give you away as scum.

Sorry, but that is a stupid question Jeanne11. Its pretty obvious we should use our abilities to full extent to find Scum, but only if its going to lead to catching Scum and not creating crazy Wifom.

Here. Is part of it. The other is the total lack of fight against you're lynch.

We've already deduced role madness. You've stated such roles should be used to the best of their abilities so using the dog to start a counter wagon would be good.

You certainly have a scumread right?

Have you and your dog/dragon/whatever vote it.

I don't really fight lynches too often anymore. I've been voted off day one enough times to know its harder to defend an accusation than to make one.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:08 am

In post 1457, wgeurts wrote:Can't you log in it?

No, I have to send a PM to Varsoon and he sends the action. I can't speak intelligibly I don't think. I can only make dragon noises.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:19 am

In post 1461, Titus wrote:
In post 1459, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1457, wgeurts wrote:Can't you log in it?

No, I have to send a PM to Varsoon and he sends the action. I can't speak intelligibly I don't think. I can only make dragon noises.

I don't think this is accurate ISOing the mod and Brantz.

If so, why didn't you say so at the initial claim?

Whydid you not claim this restriction the first time I asked you to vote?

Because I didn't think it would actually make a difference. X2

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:55 am

He dies Elb.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:17 am

In post 1474, Reasonably Rational wrote:*sigh* LQ consistently makes little enough sense that I can't just call his behavior scum, but none of this is verifiable. We know he controls the dragon, or he's scum and one of his teammates is just watching, and/or they have daytalk.

Need you to answer my questions now LQ.

-Cerb

Shoot.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:21 am

Hurry up and ask me your questions. I want to go to bed because I've been awake for 20 hours.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:29 am

In post 1488, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1439, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, any particular reason why scum LQ wouldn't have self hammered earlier, since sentiment is so clearly against him?
Also, LQ, ya know, if you control Bright you could vote Titus with both ykur votes, and I'll vote her again, and hopefully wgeurts and BM will be there, and then she's L-3!

Unless, of course, you think she's town.

And yeah, it's pretty easy to say Bright is gonna vote x, then go vote x.
Also, why did you claim the BP? And why were you concerned about scum knowing you were the double voter? That just increases the likelihood that they shoot at you, which makes your bp relevant.

-Cerb

When I claim my role I'll admit I don't usually have to (as PR). This may be a first for me actually. So I just decided to claim the full role so there would be no confusion later. I didn't want Scum to know I was a double voter because if they can pin it on someone they will likely kill them. True I have PB, but I was hoping to go into late game because I think if in Lylo if Scum target me it gives us another day.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:35 am

I'm going to bed now. I'll answer the questions people have for me when I wake up.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:57 pm

In post 1545, Titus wrote:VOTE: LQ

Fuck it. Today needs to end.

Given the claim I have you still vote for me.

VOTE: Titus

LicketyQuickety · Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:40 am

I maintain that I was not rolefishing :/

LicketyQuickety · Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:53 am

In post 2362, Titus wrote:
In post 2361, LicketyQuickety wrote:I maintain that I was not rolefishing :/

You can. Not true though.

That's exactly how Drixx views my slip btw. Each their own.

How do you know? I have never rolefished in my life, go ahead, I will link you every scum game I have played and you can see for yourself if I make rolefishing apart of my game or not :///////

LicketyQuickety · Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:09 am

In post 50, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 47, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, I could link you, but I cannot really remember where. I've done it on multiple sites.

You and Titus seem to be a little too coordinated for my taste.

PEdit: Why are you giving her that kind of credit Titus?

This was the post that is supposedly a rolefish. If I was doing anything it was trying to make you both look like you were both on a scum team :////

The PEdit was a legit question to ask as either alignment.

LicketyQuickety · Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:07 pm

LicketyQuickety · Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:26 pm

In post 2388, Titus wrote:
In post 2375, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 2353, Titus wrote:

Klingoncelt had unexplained vote on Ranger and was scum.

I explained it a lot.

But the true reason was that no way in hell would I go with any Town gambits.

Post flip yeah but the Ranger thing came out of left field prewar.

If you wanted to fuck with my plan, bussing LQ would have been the move. :-p

Oddly enough, I suggested that I may need to be bussed when I was able to talk in the PT with my team.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:45 pm

In post 2394, Suzune wrote:LQ you are usually so obviously townie to me. So when I was reading your posts and not feeling the town vibe, I started to worry. First, I thought you were just off your game, but when nothing happened later to change it. I began to get suspicious. Personally, I like townie LQ better.

I'll be the first to admit my scum game needs a lot of work, which I talked about a lot in the PT's.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:58 pm

In post 2396, Drixx wrote:
In post 2395, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2394, Suzune wrote:LQ you are usually so obviously townie to me. So when I was reading your posts and not feeling the town vibe, I started to worry. First, I thought you were just off your game, but when nothing happened later to change it. I began to get suspicious. Personally, I like townie LQ better.

I'll be the first to admit my scum game needs a lot of work, which I talked about a lot in the PT's.

Do you keep notes by hand or in a document when you play? The best way to play (as either alignment), imo, is to keep notes, and at the top you should have a section where you list what you know and how you know it. As scum you simply have to avoid ever revealing what you know because you are scum and otherwise play as you would as town. Every townie makes posts which can be legitimately pushed and viewed as scummy. A lot of town players intentionally add some scumminess to their town game for one reason or another, so that's what you can look for.

I used to feel I was a better player as scum than as town, but I've been working super hard on my town game for awhile now and I think I've now gotten better at town. I think the challenge of town is more appealing to me too ... more mystery to solve. Being informed means I have to practice spinning a convincing narrative and pull off getting town people lynched while appearing to be justified in believing they are scum. This takes a lot of thought and work ... apart even from the constant risk of revealing you know something you don't have any reason to know.

No, I have never taken any notes for any mafia game I have ever played. perhaps I should start.

And that is the age old question isn't it? Would you prefer to be authentic in solving a game or would you rather have all the answers and find the appeal in faking it.

In post 2397, Suzune wrote:I think it is a balance. Every time my I think my scum game is good, my town game suffers. If I think my town game is good, my scum game suffers. While there should be no difference between town and scum, there is. I'm sure you will master it LQ.

Right now I am on the side of a slightly better town game. I was able to sneak by everyone our last encounter in midnight sun, but I am not sure it was good scum playing that did it.

Suzune, you are too kind saying it is something I will master. I consider masters to be of the highest esteem and an endeavor that requires a gigantic chunk of time dedicated to it. But perhaps... someday.

What you talk about is such of the evon flow of what you perceive and the projection of what others perceive in a truly dynamic change of information from a selection of a group of games. I agree fully with your conclusion.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:01 pm

In post 2399, Suzune wrote:I have a high opinion of you LQ. I like your game. Therefore, I plan achievement for it.

Likewise