Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[BATORU]

no, I meant I might be omgusing there.

[Prism]

No answer Dunn gave was going to be satisfactory, because that defense of me made literally 0 sense as town.

[Prism]

I'm going to throw my vote back onto Drealm for now.

This is L-1.

VOTE: Drealm

[Prism]

Actually given the past 20-30 pages I don't think it's a good idea to risk that vote until I'm sure that's scum.

UNVOTE:

What will Prism do next? Not even they know at this point.

[BATORU]

This post[/post] by BATORU feels a bit off.

BATORU is against claiming spells and obtw...town reads

Dunnstral

for claiming.

Not sure how any of Battoru scum/spell discussion on page 2 is of any value.

This post BATORU states sentiment that

Dunnstral

is not scum this game.

K first post - that's by tama/Impoetic, and I'm pretty sure the problem there is just tonal. She's always like that. As I said to Aj before.
2nd part, again, Impoetic specific. she asked the mod a question because she didn't know the answer, I assume, so it was probably helpful to her. Not wanting people to claim and townreading people for claiming early are two different things, and she also tr ironstove for it, not just dunnstral. I never agreed with her ftr, on either claims being AI, though I found Dunn's push on Nos D1 with us to be town indicative.

Decided to break this up since I did end up responding a bit to Impo's stuff.

This post BATORU seems to discredit the negative attention

Dunnstral

is getting.

This post annnd Fire Assassin goes 0-3.

How is wanting pressure on someone discrediting? My issue was with the fact that the votes lacked any kind of presence. They weren't coming across as "I would lynch this" when both parties clearly stated they had no reads. That doesn't pressure someone. It's empty voting and read to me as trying to look busy.

Everyone in the last part hasn't flipped :/ How can you say he's 0-3?

This post BATORU agrees with

Dunnstral's

suspicions w/o any voting.

Yup, this was Tama. I disagreed, I thought ironstove's giving up at the time was town. Since then with Fire telling me it is something he's done as scum before and having seen it in another game I've realized that's not necessarily true, but at the time I did think he was more likely town for the giving up and declaring to lynch him then Frozen.

Anyway, we were trying not to just go off on our own and vote without discussing it first. In fact, early D1 I wanted pisskop but tama I think was tonereading him as town so we settled on Nosferatu for quite some time. The tradeoff is when she wanted ironstove I wouldn't allow that either due to my read on him.

Note...I suspect BATORU up to this point but I'd almost want to vote it out just because of ALL THE FCUKING HYDRA SLIPS by Impoetic. FFS.

This post Fire gave BATORU something.

This post @BATORU...

Dunnstral

not being in danger of a lynch is why I don't put much weight in this vote either.

This post gives me just a little pause for thought with my suspicions towards BATORU :/

Well, don't worry. She lost motivation for the game and the only one pushing her to try to read up and post was me. And now I'm not even sure I can keep myself motivated. So chances are there won't be any more hydra slips.

Yup, he gave us Loved spell.

I never asked you to I don't think? I was waiting for Fire to come back and move his vote off Nos so we could have a chance at saving him. Which is why i was so pissed at the hammer.

?? not sure why that post would give you pause, tbh. It's musing on how people would use their role and what that could mean for alignment, and trying to prove to drealmerz if he's town why his "case" on BTD doesn't exist and he should prove it's a genuine read rather than scum tunneling the person known to be an easy mislynch.

[BATORU]

I'm going to throw my vote back onto Drealm for now.

This is L-1.

VOTE: Drealm

Actually it would have been L-2. Not Chara made him loved.

[BATORU]

So, just so you know... We need literally every single townie to vote drealmerz to lynch him. 8 people total, and 2 are scum. drealmerz is at 6 to lynch.

[BATORU]

If there were any other questions for me please quote/reiterate and I'll try to answer best I can.

[havingfitz]

The issue with BTD6 and Fitz right now is

their clears seem to only be from each other

What are you talking about?

How am I clear and what does BTD matter with me? Is it because we both claim actions that were supposedly redirected?

If we assume scum has a redirector (as I do) we should lynch BTD. His no result on the Call spell is a bit suspect and worst case, if he flips town that would at least further clear Prism and I.

[havingfitz]

In fact...
VOTE: BTD

[Aj The Epic]

Didn't you say you investigated him and he did the same to you?

[havingfitz]

Didn't you say you investigated him and he did the same to you?

No. BTD and Prism exchanged a spell (Call) ...supposedly.

[BATORU]

How would BTD's townflip clear you and why do you believe that's basis for a lynch?

You're lynching for self-interest and information rather than trying to lynch scum is what it looks like to me here. It needs to stop.

[havingfitz]

How would BTD's townflip clear you and why do you believe that's basis for a lynch?

It's not the basis for me wanting to lynch him. My catch up posts state I suspect you and BTD. I'm opting for BTD based on that and the disconnect with not being able to use the Call spell on Prism. If BTD flips town then his claim is true...therefore he was probably redirected somehow...similar to my hood target being redirected to pisskop, and it would also confirm Prism is telling the truth. Unless you think there is a town redirector who hasn't claimed having such a spell then the only alternative is scum has one. And why would scum redirect scum?

You're lynching for self-interest and information rather than trying to lynch scum is what it looks like to me here. It needs to stop.

No. As I mention above...BTD suspicions are based on my catch up and POE (see below). The disconnect with his spell exchange with Prism combined with potential information learned (in worst case) is why.

Scum leans:

That leaves me with BATORU and BTD as vote targets.

EBWOP changing "and vote" to "as vote".

[drealmerz7]

catching up now...again...

[drealmerz7]

dreal: what's the name of your passive? hypothetically, what would you do if given a spell like a Doctor? how would you use it.

I hate being asked about skills and abilities and find it inherently scummy. but...I don't even know wtf you mean by "passive" honestly

the spell I have is known

and that day-magic users are good

this seems like a bit of a logical leap from you. what makes you so sure scum don't have accompanying passives to town's?

unrelated, but i'm not a girl. saying you feel that i wouldn't have used the spell this way as scum is fine, but saying 'i'm also a day-spell user, so if Chara is that makes me think day-magic is good' sort of feels like a roundabout way to be townread.

not a logical leap, but then, I think flavor can mean things sometimes
if you started with a day-spell, I'd lean town on you, simple as that for that simple reason

it's not that evil can't use day-magic or anything like that - it's about the source of the magic

wow,

literally

nothing more to comment on

lynch pool is 3: BTD6, pk, BAT
and will remain the same group until they are all gone
and I think that's a win
can we get on it?

[pisskop]

2 more on drealz pls.

lets nip this in the bud now

[drealmerz7]

why am I scum?

oh, I'm not

just pushpushpushpushpush

and maybe I'll go through

[drealmerz7]

the luckyscummer who never got a spell until he was loved!!!

*sarcasm*

[drealmerz7]

unlucky

fucking hell

[BATORU]

And why would scum redirect scum?

For the same reason scum could make one of their own hated, or roleblock and no kill. For the same reason scum generally pull those kinds of gambits.

And that's even assuming you were redirected and not lying about that. pisskop also claimed to be redirected. That doesn't clear him either.

[drealmerz7]

ohyeah and scum would pass hated back and forth and do any number of other things

duh

[Not Chara]

I actually can only use spells during the day and so it makes me think her claim is true

this is a passive claim. i'm asking what your ability is called that let's you do this.

my question about how you'd use your doctor spell was a hypothetical, please answer. and finally: can you or can you not use spells during the day? can you give back the Loved spell i gave you?

[pisskop]

just pushpushpushpushpush

and maybe I'll go through

what is this shit drealz?

have i been pushing you nonstop in all our games? is every third word from my fetid little mouth '

Pisskop

drealz is scum'? Do i invent methods of determining who is scum like D1vca?

[pisskop]

youre scum by play, scum by motivation, and scum because i townread btd