Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:25 pm

In post 1429, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1425, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Titus
There's being stubborn and then there's being unreasonable
this is the ladder
I'm still willing to lynch this fyi

Why? Just because someone doesn't like me is not grounds for lynching.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:31 pm

In post 1431, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1428, Titus wrote:
In post 1425, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Titus
There's being stubborn and then there's being unreasonable
this is the ladder
Just how am I being unreasonable? Removing a known liar who does not admit it is the height of reason.
Do you really think Tywin is scum after all these out bursts he's doing?
This screams frustrated town and you just trying to play it off is just...zzz You're not a stubborn person Titus you're quite smart scary even you should know when this is real or fake.

Yes, and most of the time people who persist in lying are scum. If Tywin was engaging in analysis, I would be open to revisit. He isn't.

He believes he will die soon, and doesn't give reads. That isn't town. The lying isn't town. Attempting to argue I am personally attacking him is not town.

If he is town, his refusal to critically think makes him of no use to me and makes it impossible to reevaluate.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:32 pm

In post 1435, Alisae wrote:Titus, for me, I just don't like when Kyouko hopped on the Tywin wagon.
Like, this whole game I feel like he's been chainsawing Lapsa. He's mostly been going after people on the Lapsa wagon. And I don't see why when he's giving Lapsa a nullscum read. It would make sense if he's trying to get towncred from Lapsa, but he thinks Lapsa is nullscum.
And he's not doing that much to stand out, he's sorta just under the radar while appear to be doing town things. I don't like it.

Expand more with citations please.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:32 pm

In post 1442, Lapsa wrote:
In post 1317, Titus wrote:and AJ in my scumlist for a reason.

He's not in my scumlist. See next post for edit.

I will supplement showing just how toxic scum can be in a moment.

This whole Tywin is flailing so it must be town flail is annoying.

They'll call players psychotic and belittle anyone who dares call them out.

Spoiler: Kuroi in Gunslinger's Mafia

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:36 pm

In post 1446, Cabd wrote:I give up. Is this how the secretary of state feels when trying to talk to Israel and Palestine?

I'm going to reset and approach this entire thing from a different angle; with the caveat that nobody should put a wagon anything higher than L-2 while we are actively awaiting a slot replacement and pine to catch up.

Cabd, i get it. You're frustrated town. I've pummelled scum who play like this before, and I will keep doing it.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:14 pm

In post 1470, Cabd wrote:
In post 1458, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:This looks like arguing semantics tbh and if I see a Tywin scumflip I'll be back for you. I appreciate that you're wanting to detox this game but there have been plenty of opportunities for Tywin to read the posts that quote him saying one thing and show that another thing was actually said.
That's fair; if I'm wrong you're welcome to re-evaluate the game state. If I'm right too, for that matter. Constantly evaluating the game state is what you DO. I sure know I would if proven wrong. I've just been on the receiving end of a titus like death tunnel as town and reacted almost IDENTICALLY to how tywin is responding. You get more and more flustered; and less able to coherently argue your point.

Can you stop making excuses?

You said that scum never act like that. I prove they do.
Now, you're at he's less coherent? Of course he isn't coherent. He's scum.

When will you actually reevaluate that Tywin is just scum?

You feel like the secretary of state...I feel like your mother telling you not to get in the van with the creepy old guy.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:24 pm

In post 1478, Nero Cain wrote:Titus, why are you pushing the mediator tell as scum for Tywin but not for Cabd?

I am not pushing the mediator tell for either.

Where is the catchup you promised?

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:26 pm

In post 1480, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:^ town

Hiw charitable are you? Every single scumread on his list is hard town on mine, although I have not reviewed Alisae's case?

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:27 pm

In post 1483, Nero Cain wrote:I am caught up save for whats been posted today

So, where are your reads?

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:55 pm

So, he selectively just cannot admit when he's wrong when I post?

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:05 pm

Sorry...

What do you think of Nero? My judgment there is cloudy because he tunnels on me every game.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:27 pm

In post 1504, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1502, Titus wrote:Sorry...

What do you think of Nero? My judgment there is cloudy because he tunnels on me every game.
Seems like he could be misguided town which is why he's null town to me for now. Depending how long the tunnel carries on could be looked at but there are more likely suspects out there as far as I'm concerned.

Ok.

Tywin, Lapsa, who else?

Alisae?

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:45 pm

In post 1507, Alisae wrote:Titus are you asking me what I think about Nero? Cause I think he is most likely town.

Why? I wasn't asking you but details help.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:47 pm

Transcend is obvtown imo. He's like that as town. Plus, if he was scum he could have lurked.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:52 pm

What happens to your reads if Lapsa is scum?

How can you be townreading Lapsa?

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:59 pm

In post 1515, Nero Cain wrote:the wagon on him was shit. If Lapsa flips scum then I'll obviously have to revaluate starting with being less suspicious of those that voted him.

What happens to your reads if Lapsa is town?

What happens to your reads if Tywin is town?

Yeah, I am asking you to rethink, given your entire reads base seems glued into that faulty assumption.

My reads would not change if either flipped town. Lapsa is scummy as shit and done jack this game. Tywin is a useless liar.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:11 pm

In post 1519, Nero Cain wrote:Why should I rethink when you won't?

Does it have to do with the fact that you'll look bad if you think you were voting town?

I will rethink, if something changes my theory.

I think you're the tunnelling asshole. Tywin and Lapsa are useless at best. If you wanted my reads to change, postulate Elbrin scum (ridiculous).

Your read on Lapsa underpins your entire gamestate.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:48 pm

Nero, what do you think of Alisae wanting everyone to like her? Why are Elbrin and Cabd so low?

If Tywin town, why would those two defend him?

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:00 pm

In post 1534, Nero Cain wrote:scum defend town all the time, stop pretending like you haven't been on this site three years.

Please just answer the question.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:53 pm

In post 1537, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I have several players listed with Alisae as possible teammates in the case of multiball but I don't feel confident in those reads because there are so many possibilities but Lapsa/Tywin/AJ are making a lot of sense. AJ voting Alisae for voting you could be him looking to steer the lynch off of Tywin if AJ and Tywin are a team

Alisae, Tywin do not make sense with early votes. If both are evil, Alise is SK or second faction.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:05 pm

In post 1548, Painbringer wrote:Traitor Aliasae moves from Lapsa in 1.2 to Elbrin in 1.3.

My bad

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:09 pm

In post 1550, Alisae wrote:
In post 1549, Titus wrote:
In post 1548, Painbringer wrote:Traitor Aliasae moves from Lapsa in 1.2 to Elbrin in 1.3.
My bad
Problem: I never moved off of the Lapsa wagon at that point in time.

In post 1546, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Although that would be weird if 3/4 of the players on Alisae in RVS were scum unless Lapsa has a really important role in the scumteam
Another question, at that point, what have I done that could have gotten me read as a traitor?

That is what I was saying.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:47 pm

In post 1554, Alisae wrote:So Titus, you're basicly saying that you think I could be an SK because I want to be liked by everyone.

Let me ask you this then, is it possible that I could just be really bad at this game? So bad that newb!town Alisae would want to be liked by everyone?
Becuase I am good alignment speaking.

Yes. It is.

Titus · Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:58 pm

I think you're right to focus on 621 but for the wrong reason. AJ had said I was a town village idiot. Lapsa wanted AJ's thoughts to be promoted.

ScumAJ likely votes me rather than defends me when scum tried to rope me.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:52 am

In post 1626, Aj The Epic wrote:See, this is something that doesn't work yet because only someone who's REALLY good at meta is able to put together perspective teams this early on. Someone who can say "i'd expect gamma!scum to bus a partner early" or "I'd expect gamma!scum to make no attempts to talk to their partner" is the only one able to do it d1 because there's so many different ways a person can interact with scummates.

Strongly disagree, but it appears we are not lynching scum Tywin today.

Is Lapsa in your pool?

UNVOTE: Tywin

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:22 am

VOTE: Lapsa

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:50 am

In post 1654, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1653, Titus wrote:VOTE: Lapsa
cool vote, what do you think about ssbm last few posts ? @ titus

Still townread them but need to read the case. Plus i hate the townslip talk. Ignorance of daytalk after the mod announces it twice is fake as fuck, especially after the argument was made the first tume.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:59 am

Syr, welcom, been awhile. Are you scum here? What is your standard for me being vocal?

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:16 pm

I am voting Lapsa because he's scum. His ISO is devoid of anything yet the major counters he saw in RVS strongly suggest he's scum.

My questions to you are trying to get in your thought process. You attempted to argue something I view as absurd (namely that I am not vocal when I have the most posts in the game and clearest reads), so I want to see your thought process succintly.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:32 pm

In post 1695, Alisae wrote:Titus, remind me again who are your top scumpicks?

Lapsa and Tywin.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:45 pm

In post 1701, Alisae wrote:
In post 1698, Titus wrote:
In post 1695, Alisae wrote:Titus, remind me again who are your top scumpicks?
Lapsa and Tywin.
After Tywin?

Mozamis, but would settle here if a wagon was exclusively townreads.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:35 pm

Ok, this is one of

those

games, where I have to wait on town to realize the obvious. I will keep my vote useful, but make a general proclaimation that I will

always

be down for a Tywin wagon.

Anyone townreading the second "daytalk" comment has zero idea about the point of daychat and how townslips are faked.

I don't get why we are talking about masons from nowhere.

Pedit: Yeah, Gamma. I actually have played several games about GoT. Never watched an episode.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:55 pm

In post 1772, mozamis wrote:
In post 1526, Alisae wrote:it's so bad and scummy that its something that no one in their right mind would do
I know what you mean. I thought about his vote for Tywin.
But ultimately, I think it's best not overthink it, and see it for what it probably is: scum panicking that their mislynch is getting derailed.

I guess that solidifies my thinking that Lapsa is scum.
Alisea looks better for essentially posting what i was thinking.

Help me bus. At least then your vote will do some good.

Then you and Tywin can murder me.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:14 pm

Oh, we are putting reads in thread.

Elbrin, Cabd, Gamma, AJ, SSM, Cloudkicker<--- Lock town barring significant evidence to the contray

Prob town, not touching today
Nero, Pine

Gun to my head town, would hammer kicking and screaming
Syr (loved Transcend, hate their recent posting with a passion), Sonia

Null, could compromise here since I hate nulls
Lil Uzi,

Done Jackshit, would lynch

Nos

Can eat rope and should now

Tywin, Moz, Lapsa

Separate from list
Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:21 pm

In post 1801, Cabd wrote:PS: It worries me a little bit that literally everyone (Minus nero maybe? Can't tell) townreads me; that's really rare for literally every player in a game to agree.

P-edit: Alisae you mis-understand him. "The fun of playing the game of mafia as a concept" not this specific game.

No shit. You basically shoved townreading scum down everyone's throat. It's rather obvious why you're townread. Barring the occasional attempt to try and turn me against you so people can paint me as crazy, no scum in their right mind would attack you.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:23 pm

In post 1798, Cabd wrote:FYI titus: I know the early pine towncred thing was my spearhead; but pine has done jackshitall with it; which makes it insignificant compared to what everyone else has out there to judge by. Is there a separate source than that for your pine read?

Early vote on Lapsa scum. Other things I am aware of.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:26 pm

In post 1806, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:We don't have enough players that mutually read each as town to form a block right now Gamma.

I think there is. Why do you say this plus not want to confirm it?

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:28 pm

In post 1807, mozamis wrote:
In post 1796, Alisae wrote:Moz, if you dunno about Titus, why is your vote still on them? Don't you have stronger SRs?
Fair point, that was stream-of-consciusness stuff.
I think Titus is scum. It's just her vote on Lapsa is annoying, becuase Lapsa is prob scum too.
However, Titus is more than capable of bussing.
PARTICULARLY when she oh-so-clever-clever points out the fact that she could be bussing! Oh how we laughed!
So yeah she's scum.

^^^ is scum not wanting to bus Lapsa and is desperate enough to hide behind a joke. If Lapsa swings with me as counter, good luck mislynching me.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:34 pm

In post 1814, Alisae wrote:Titus in the event you missed this.
In post 1799, Alisae wrote:
In post 1794, Titus wrote:Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her
Why would an SK admit to trying to please everyone including scum? That just seems idiotic to me.

Because it's blatantly true. An SK denying that is autolynch.

I am not too inclined to lynch you today, as scum can handle you if I am correct barring a really unbalanced fucked over game.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:37 pm

In post 1819, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1794, Titus wrote:Oh, we are putting reads in thread.

Elbrin, Cabd, Gamma, AJ, SSM, Cloudkicker<--- Lock town barring significant evidence to the contray

Prob town, not touching today
Nero, Pine

Gun to my head town, would hammer kicking and screaming
Syr (loved Transcend, hate their recent posting with a passion), Sonia

Null, could compromise here since I hate nulls
Lil Uzi,

Done Jackshit, would lynch

Nos

Can eat rope and should now

Tywin, Moz, Lapsa

Separate from list
Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her
What if there's not an SK though, is Alisae scummy to you? I was casing her earlier and forgot deadline was approaching in another game so I had to dip but that's coming soon™

I could rope Lapsa, Alisae, LUV at this point. Maybe Aj depending how/if he responds to my complaints about his case on me.

Cabd I'll update reads after my case on Alisae I think, maybe later tonight.

Anti-town.

She's some sort of role that she feels compelled to survive to help her team. Not inclined to lynch her today, given the most likely evil scenario has no evidence. If SK appears, I would be down for lynching that.

She has too many scum in her team plus early voting patterns suggest she is not group scum.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:39 pm

In post 1822, Alisae wrote:
In post 1820, Titus wrote:
In post 1814, Alisae wrote:Titus in the event you missed this.
In post 1799, Alisae wrote:
In post 1794, Titus wrote:Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her
Why would an SK admit to trying to please everyone including scum? That just seems idiotic to me.
Because it's blatantly true. An SK denying that is autolynch.

I am not too inclined to lynch you today, as scum can handle you if I am correct barring a really unbalanced fucked over game.
So you're implying that if I am SK, that I am dieing tonight. Nice!

Not necessarily dying, but handled in some way. I doubt scum are idiots.

They'd have to shoot me sooner rather than later.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:50 pm

In post 1838, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1817, Cabd wrote:
In post 1813, Alisae wrote:{Titus, Lapsa, Mos, Pine, Tywin, Kyouko} <--- Things I'm okay with lynching
LMAO please explain how you have Titus and Tywin in the same scumtier?!?

Unless you're trying to say they're pulling the scum theater of the century?
Mirror tell, i had the same exact thought and i really cant see how you would put both as scum when theyre both obviously town

I am still waiting for an explanation for Twyin town that doesn't include the daychat comment [100 percent fakable, given daychat] or Tywin raged really hard [scum have outright called players psychotic and raged harder when called out]. Where's the analysis beyond you hate me, I hate you?

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:22 pm

In post 1885, Syryana wrote:Cool, now answer me about the lying about tywin thing

You mean where Tywin denied the prior conversations about his awkward Lil Uzi interactions even happened and doubled down when proven wrong?

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:25 pm

In post 1887, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1291, Lapsa wrote:I won't participate in Tywin and Aj lynches today.

In post 1327, Lapsa wrote:
In post 1325, Titus wrote:Lapsa, you want to talk about anyone but Tywin (not Tywin out of respect for Cabd)?
Townread Tywin around spaghetti.

What else assumptions have you made?

In post 1374, Lapsa wrote:VOTE: Tywin Lannister
He ended up putting him at L-2 when tywin was freaking out, the timing is textbook scum and he didnt even explain his vote or comment on it, to add to the scumlord he never answered me nor did try to explain himself AFTER i pointed it out

Textbook bussing but I will just sit in the corner and wait.

Ooh pedit, I get to regrab my post where he does that.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:27 pm

In post 628, Titus wrote:
Spoiler: Reference Posts
In post 301, Titus wrote:
In post 300, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 292, Elbirn wrote:
In post 285, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Well, feels like my vote is in the right place. I do agree with the town read on Alisae though and I'm sure a quick meta dive can confirm how she's been described for those who do TR her. I also like when she posts more seriously, it's attractive. Her questions and reads feel like they're coming from town.
Yeah, nah. You don't get to keep your rvs vote on me, not explain why, and then instead of talking about why you think I'm scum go off on a tangent about alisae instead. Tell the good people of this thread why I'm scum

Square up, you bout to catch these blessed hands

Gladiate: Lil Uzi Vert
Agree with Elibirn. Answer his questions Lil Uzi. It's only fair.

Ewwww politician posting.

In post 304, Titus wrote:Twin, gun to your head.

Lynch Elbrin or Uzi.
Cabd or Uzi.

In post 308, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 304, Titus wrote:Twin, gun to your head.

Lynch Elbrin or Uzi.
Cabd or Uzi.
Uzi

In post 310, Titus wrote:
In post 308, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 304, Titus wrote:Twin, gun to your head.

Lynch Elbrin or Uzi.
Cabd or Uzi.
Uzi
Then why are you treating Uzi with kid gloves?

In post 315, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 310, Titus wrote:
In post 308, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 304, Titus wrote:Twin, gun to your head.

Lynch Elbrin or Uzi.
Cabd or Uzi.
Uzi
Then why are you treating Uzi with kid gloves?
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for the moment. I'll let him answer. I've missed questions before as town (missed yours a few times last game), so it's entirely possible he missed them. I don't think he can miss it now, so next post or two from him should give a better read.

In post 333, Titus wrote:Gladiator is a real role. It's near RVS. Supposing Elbrin's a selfish dick that ruins d1 is a little off. Like you're supposing everything he says is honest...

In post 422, Tywin Lannister wrote:Okay, so I caught up with my morning coffee.

So for things related to me seem to be this:

1. Titus calls me scum for no reason, then votes Alisae instead. Well, to be fair, her reading was my 'it's only fair' statement, but it's probably one of the most atrocious over-reaches I've ever seen. It's that bad. That was the only reason given by Titus, and it seems the three buddied females have jumped on that reasoning as being amazing, because after that:

2. Alisae starts questioning me/thinking I'm scum after being obviously led by Titus. My favorite post was 390 by far. Apparently, la that Alisae has thought about it, I really haven't done anything except 'thinking Lapsa and Cloud is scum, and that Kyou, Nero, and me are town.' Oh, is that all? Lol. Even if that was all I did this game, it would be more than Titus or Sonia have done. Speaking of the third member in this girl buddy band...

3. Sonia pops up out of nowhere, sheep's Titus by calling me scum, and her reason is also sheeped by giving her reason as my 'it's only fair' statement. Zero originality there. That's some blatant sheeping going on.

All of these three have this in common with ONE outlier: who has asked questions out of all of them? Only Alisae. Titus and Sonia both threw shade on me, and they even asked others to weigh in on me and Alisae (who I TR pretty strongly), yet zero questions have come from her. Titus hasn't asked me anything. She hasn't tried sorting me whatsoever. The same goes with Sonia. She has thrown shade on multiple players, yet she hasn't even once tried sorting a single person. No questions have been asked whatsoever. Titus at least has the ability to lead sheep. Sonia has done zero scum hunting whatsoever and everything she does seems to sheep someone else.

Titus: why haven't you asked me a single question? Why do you continue to ask others to comment on me while you refuse to sort me directly yourself? Are you hoping a wagon forms on me that you can hop on, otherwise why haven't you voted me if you think I'm scum? Why vote Alisae for asking you to explain yourself when throwing shade on me? Do you truly believe my lil Uzi 'it's only fair' comment is a scum tell? I sure as hell don't believe that. It's weak and contrived. We both know that already though.

Sonia: why haven't you asked me any questions? Also, why did you sheep Titus exactly to the T? Do you have no original thought? I find that sheep on atrocious reasonings are almost always scum. What do you think? Also, when ssbm_Kyouko pointed out your blatant buddying with Titus in post #400, you came back in #407 calling him 'not town' for no reason. It was another OMGUS shade throw with zero follow through. You haven't followed any lead or anything you claim to be scummy with any actual questions whatsoever. Also, you claim my post #303 is 'scummy as fuck.' Please explain what in it is scummy. You said it was overly defensive and manipulative. What was I defensive about? Who was I defending against? How does that make any sense whatsoever? I joined in with Elibirn to get Uzi to answer why he thought Elibirn was scum. He never gave a good reason, but regardless, what was there for me to be defensive about? I wasn't being attacked, so why call it defensive? Also, how was it manipulative in a scummy way? Do you know what 'scummy' even is, or only when you're town and not using contrived reasoning to throw shade on players? Why are you chainsaw defending Uzi here? You AND Titus both highly dislike Uzi being questioned. Both of you have attacked me now over me forcing Uzi to answer a basic question. Neither of you seem to have any real questions for me though. Now THAT is 'scummy as fuck' (to quote your own words).

So with all that being said, that puts Titus/Sonia firmly in my scum pool, and Alisae goes in as strong town. Only Alisae has even tried to scum hunt this game. Titus/Sonia can only throw shade using terrible reasoning, while asking zero questions or even pretending to scum hunt. Sonia looks more like the sheep with no originality, while Titus is the Shepard of these misfits. I find it odd that so many of you haven't mentioned it yet. It's extremely blatant. Titus isn't being sneaky about it.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. VOTE: Titus. I'm willing to bet one of Titus/Sonia are scum at this point. I'd gladiate them like Eliburn pretended if I could. I may get the chance after Kyouko just blatantly said he'd sheep a wagon on me. You people really love lynching town on these forums. The only time scum are ever caught in my games are when I do it myself. I'm not sure why so many are so bad at such easy things like scum reading. To read into my 'it's only fair' statement as being scummy is just ridiculous/bad play. To even assume I'd join in on the Elibirn/Uzi thing as scum period is insulting. Don't project your bad plays into me and think it will work in calling me scummy Titus/Sonia. Try again.

In 422 , Tywin says I haven't asked him one single question or tried to sort him. Yet in 304 , I ask him who he'd lynch first. Elbrin or Uzi. I follow up on that question in 310 and he replies in 315 .

He is hyper defensive over the "it's only fair" comment. He's treating Uzi specially. Like he doesn't want a lynch there but he has to interact.

Later, he claims I stated Gladiator is "normal", when I said no such thing in 333. When confronted with this, he doubles down on his accusations of me being scum, rather than reevaluate.

The lack of thought tells me he's lying to throw shade.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:31 pm

Spoiler: Tywin's rage response

quote="In post 752, Tywin Lannister"]

In post 615, Titus wrote:
In post 608, Cabd wrote:You and I have very different definitions of a lair, Titus. Can you lay out why exactly you feel Tywin should be a major scum read of mine? As for Alisae; not discussing it right now; you don't see it.
Anyone who makes up what I said and when confronted with evidence it's not true doesn't back down.

VOTE: AJ

I'm still catching up, but I just noticed this. What 'evidence' did you post to prove I somehow lied?

Gladiator thing was null and not really part of my scum read of you aside from the fact that yes, you DID claim it was normal. Your claim is that you said it was real, but that's not how it fit in the context of those posts. The question was 'is gladiator a normal role' not 'is gladiator a real role.' You're shade throwing and completely full of it to even insinuate I lied there. You're pushing an insanely asinine read on me, because you don't have a case and never did. You never will, because I'm town. You will never be able to prove anything that is false, regardless of your terrible logic and emotional appeals to other players. It's quite the straw man. You trying to 'lead' town I to mislynches will ultimately be your downfall. You are scum and you know I'm on to you.

What was the other claimed lie? That you didn't ask me questions? I asked you to repeat them in a subsequent post, since I never once found any questions from you. Your response was to say 'but I did ask! You lie! Oh, but I don't need questions to read you.' That was it. You never ONCE reposted any questions, so without actual proof, I will continue to say you didn't. Following that, I propose to call you the liar here. You're lying about me and misrepresenting the entire sequence of events to twist into me being scummy. People aren't stupid and can read, unfortunately for you. Try again scum. Misrepresent some more. By your own definition, it means you're a liar yourself. Foot in mouth disease. i hope it isn't contagious.[/quote]

In post 755, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 753, Titus wrote:@TY,

628
Not on this page yet, but will get to it soon. The problem with calling someone a liar is you better be damn sure you can prove it, and you haven't, because I didn't. Also, don't post something as 'proof' that just so happens to be far after the fact and later than your continual posts calling me a liar. Nice misrepresentation, again. Scummy as fuck. You def aren't town. If you were, you'd read the game and use real logic instead of continuously pushing a mislynch on the person who calls you out.

1) Still denies me asking questions
2) Tries to spin what I said
3)Excessive Rage for a genuine misunderstanding

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:34 pm

In post 1900, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1875, Alisae wrote:
In post 1871, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You're scummier than he is and I don't buy into not lynching my top scumread just because Titus thinks your an SK. I'd hammer him if my vote was needed but I'd rather lynch you today.
Explain to me why you don't buy it. Because I don't buy the fact that you don't buy it.
I don't buy it because I think SKs need to be lynched since they're not aligned with the town.

Wait for evidence of SK before entertaining a theory that requires an SK

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:38 pm

In post 1902, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Weren't there more rage responses?

Quoting the entire ISO would be asinine and bogging the thread.

@Cabd, I have a quite easy standard. Show me analysis that's not OMGUS rage OR faked townslips. If you cannot do that, you should reevaluate your read.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:39 pm

In post 1907, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1904, Syryana wrote:Nah, I'm off to bed too. I'll reread the Titus wall tomorrow; started nodding off through half of it.

Probably will have to read the whole Titus vs. Tywin thing. Goddamnit.
Dont, theyre both town and theres nothing AI that proves the contrary

*smacks head against wall*

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:43 pm

In post 1910, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1901, Titus wrote:
In post 1900, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1875, Alisae wrote:
In post 1871, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You're scummier than he is and I don't buy into not lynching my top scumread just because Titus thinks your an SK. I'd hammer him if my vote was needed but I'd rather lynch you today.
Explain to me why you don't buy it. Because I don't buy the fact that you don't buy it.
I don't buy it because I think SKs need to be lynched since they're not aligned with the town.
Wait for evidence of SK before entertaining a theory that requires an SK
The theory that Alisae is scum is not contingent on her being a SK. You're the one that suggested she was SK in the first place, because she's trying to be nice to everyone, but I think she's more likely to be traitor or scum PR trying to get onto town's good side. If I thought she were necessarily SK I could understand why we would leave her alone for now, but I don't think she is. And if she is, what's to stop her from killing us because we found her and scum didn't? If she is SK she'd be a liability at this point.

She's been too nice to everyone, including scum, to make sense as one of them.

Titus · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:44 pm

In post 1909, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1906, Titus wrote:
In post 1902, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Weren't there more rage responses?
Quoting the entire ISO would be asinine and bogging the thread.

@Cabd, I have a quite easy standard. Show me analysis that's not OMGUS rage OR faked townslips. If you cannot do that, you should reevaluate your read.
Not if you want to really sell us on him being scum it isn't.

There's an ISO button below the posts.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:41 am

Speed of a wagon has never been AI of the wagonee. Mozamis might as well be saying Titus is on it, so I will not bus.

Also, not found of doing dual scum wagon nonsense. If both wagons are on scum, it fractures town and makes scum harder to lynch. If one is on town, it makes the one that's on scum harder to go through.

Pretty sure the way Tywin jumped onto this that it is just lurkerbait to save Lapsa.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:42 am

In post 2005, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1946, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.10Lapsa 7 (Pine, CloudKicker, Alisae, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko)
Titus 4 (Nero Cain, mozamis, Tywin Lannister, Syryana)
Alisae 1 (Aj The Epic)
Tywin Lannister 1 (Lapsa)
CloudKicker 1 (Nosferatu)

Not Voting 3 (Cabd, xSoniaNevermindx, Elbirn)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is December 30 at 11 AM Eastern.

While the mod at least exists now, he will nonetheless be kinda-on-vacation for the next week.
Here is my hangup with Lapsa being scum... Namely a few SRS on the wagon. If Lapsa does flip scum, I can't see them all bussing here. It wouldn't make sense. AJ/Nosferatu/Sonia/Elbirn will need closer looks regardless. I get bigger scum vibes from Nosferatu/AJ than I do Elibirn/Sonia though.

So why hasn't anyone questioned Nosferatu on that Cloud vote? That just looks bad. AJ on Alisae over ever mentioning Uzi looks bad IMO. I'd assume they'd both be scummy in AJ's mind considering they both have done the same things (albeit to lesser degrees). I honestly like everyone on the Titus wagon, but that's not going to go through today. Sonia had kinda disappeared, so I don't know where to lean with her.

The real problem I have is that the Lapsa wagon contains enough SRs that it gives me pause, but nothing Lapsa has done objectively makes me think 'town' whatsoever. So it's my own bias due to SRs that make me uneasy about him more than anything else. If Lapsa is scum, then they can't all be scum with him. That's too many votes for a proper bus.

Waaaahhh town is uniting so we cannot afford a bus.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:44 am

In post 2024, Gamma Emerald wrote:no stahp
tywin is town

My door is open to reasons to townread him that are not rage/faked towntells. I have asked repeatedly, got crickets.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:01 am

In post 2028, Cabd wrote:Titus, it's now time to talk about that THING that I brought up waaaay back near the start of the game.

Awesome. Let's do it.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:11 am

In post 2030, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2026, Titus wrote:
In post 2024, Gamma Emerald wrote:no stahp
tywin is town
My door is open to reasons to townread him that are not rage/faked towntells. I have asked repeatedly, got crickets.
He finally simmered down when I was talking with him. I'd think scum would remain indignant.

Nah, he's calmed down because no one is lynching him.

Please, I said not rage based clear.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:13 am

In post 2031, Cabd wrote:
In post 599, Cabd wrote:Apparently getting traction on Gamma isn't possible right now. He's got the flimsiest shit steps in and step outs in the game.

{Pine, Mozamis, Alisae} <--line of "not touching today without a damn good reason"

{Lapsa, SSBM}

{Elbirn, Tywin}
{Titus}
{everyone else} <--Line of Neutrality
{Uzi}
{AJ}
{Gamma} <--Line of "voting for without hesitation"
Bolded was me mistakenly thinking I saw lapsa counterclaiming my masons joke. It's why I haven't been willing to vote Lapsa (and had him hard town) until fairly recently where SSBM endorsed a lapsa wagon.

In fact my personal notes as of that page read:
spec: there are real masons and they're ssbm and larpsa
Obviously that's NOT the case but I was so damn worried I'd blown it but ecited I'd seen it.

If they were counterclaiming you but playing it under wraps, I would expect a lot more anger at you being declared obvtown and not throwing mud at me for stating that scum are usually the ones that object to masonries.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:17 am

In post 2034, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1850, Gamma Emerald wrote:Attempt 2
In post 176, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.3
Elbirn
6 (
Lil Uzi Vert
,
xSoniaNevermindx,
Aj The Epic
, ssbm_Kyouko
,
Transcend
,
CloudKicker
)

Lapsa
5 (
Pine
,
Gamma Emerald
,
Titus
,
Alisae
,
Elbirn
)

Alisae
3 (Nosferatu,
Lapsa
,
Tywin Lannister
)

Gamma Emerald
1 (
Cabd
)

Not Voting 2 (
Nero Cain
, mozamis
)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
This makes more sense than before.
From the analysis here, if my team guess is right (Sonia, Lapsa, Ali, ssbm), then we see
Two scum bussing each other
The other 2 scum on a town counterwagon
Which is behavior I don't find too abnormal. Lapsa replaced Tywin partailly because my VCA made more sense with that grouping.

This isn't VCA but theorycrafting. True VCA requires flips and determining motivations.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:30 am

Yeah, this isn't S v S wagon behavior most likely.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:18 am

In post 2047, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Titus I'm asking you again, who is your strongest TR? One name please

Gun to my head, Cloud.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:19 am

In post 2057, Syryana wrote:It is time.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lapsa

Yippie.

Titus · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:23 am

In post 2066, Syryana wrote:
In post 2062, Cabd wrote:UNVOTE:

I don't want to lynch before claim/catchup promised by pine, tho
Too late mate. Alisae was lolhammer.

I thought u were :/

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:23 am

Ok, I am scrapping everything and starting from scratch.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:32 am

In post 2092, Cabd wrote:Hey titus we can discuss this now. Do you think there's a traitor in this game or no?

Yes. Why ask?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:33 am

In post 2097, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Cloud tried to pocket me.
Suck it

So you're claiming Vig that shot Cloud?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:35 am

So we have 2 "vig claims" and neither shot the other vig claimer.

This is a where is my vodka game.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:36 am

In post 2104, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Cloud was tr by a lot of people it's not out of question Cloud was the scumkill

Do not joke about claiming a kill. Ty vm.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:37 am

In post 2107, Cabd wrote:Does this game really make sense with a vig and SK AND a traitor though?

They're all normal roles and if we have an insanely high amount of town power maybe...

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:37 am

In post 2110, Cabd wrote:Lmao I misread the cloud flip. Titus is confirmed town

How? *squints*

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:39 am

Ok. I am confirmed town or evil doctor or SK then. I am town, but let's not used confirmed, when we mean highly probable.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:42 am

In post 2120, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:actually with cloud flipping scum this seems like a really good vote and I'm prob just wrong.
VOTE: Tywin

Why?

I had Cloud as a lock townread and Lapsa as highly likely scum yesterday. Why would you sheep my Twyn read today?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:43 am

Mod:Did Cloud know his scumbuddies?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:55 am

Tywin, why should I Townread you at this point?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:56 am

Why didn't yoilu shoot Syr Alisae?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:58 am

In post 2145, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Cloud was rubbing up on me harder then a hooker on a fucking pole did you read that buddy shit?

Ignores deliberately until Syr arrives

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:00 am

In post 2147, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2146, Titus wrote:
In post 2145, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Cloud was rubbing up on me harder then a hooker on a fucking pole did you read that buddy shit?
Ignores deliberately until Syr arrives
I'd vig Gamma or syr what do you think Titus

*cricket mc Cricket*

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:04 am

In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam

Doesn't this post suggest lynch Kyouko?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:05 am

In post 2150, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:First Titus ignores my hugs
Now she just gives me silence
okay I can't take it anymore alisae shoot me in the face
Pedit: E X A C T L Y

I am a freak that feels awkward with bodily contact. :-p

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:17 am

In post 2160, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2152, Titus wrote:
In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam
Doesn't this post suggest lynch Kyouko?
Hmm..

Also I haf question: Uzi flipped Vanilla Cop. The only reason for the vanilla to be in there is if there are either modifier cops (insane/naive/etc) elsewhere. So if someone also got a cop role, perhaps they are insane? Just a thought, although not sure if the modifiers are considered normal or not. I just don't really see a reason to say 'vanilla' cop if the others aren't normal anyway.

This is just bad.

Vanilla cop checks VT or PR. Goon comes back vanilla.

Cops must be sane in normals. Try again.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:19 am

In post 2171, Alisae wrote:on 2nd thought, did Cloud ever even give reads?

Me/Tywin was T v T.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:19 am

Sonia, SSM read?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:32 am

AJ, Cabd claims he checked me and I do not have a gun. True.

VOTE: SSM

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:36 am

In post 2193, Alisae wrote:Cabd, why did you do your thingy on Titus?

For players of a certain era, I am a universal check if wrong early on.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:58 am

UNVOTE: SSM

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:14 pm

In post 2214, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2108, Titus wrote:
In post 2104, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Cloud was tr by a lot of people it's not out of question Cloud was the scumkill
Do not joke about claiming a kill. Ty vm.
Titus what was this about?

Sonia joked about murdering Cloud.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:24 pm

In post 2221, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2101, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2100, Titus wrote:
In post 2097, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Cloud tried to pocket me.
Suck it
So you're claiming Vig that shot Cloud?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sure?
This? Cuz it seemed clearly a joke.

You know what fuck it I'm gonna say some dumb shit

Your post doesn't sit well with me cuz it sounds like you were softing that you did that kill. Then cabd gunsmith'ed you and got no gun. So you changed your tune because you'd have to have a knife making you the sk.

I'm gonna go back to work and let everyone tear me to shreds, deuces

Elbrin, you scum? You know how much I hate fakeclaim s and cannot tell a joke for shit.

Do you think I functionally grew balls for brains? Let's see here. There's three people who claimed vig. So, I am going to soft vig too.

This cannot be serious.

Where is your comment on cloud's traitor crumb?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:24 pm

In post 2225, Alisae wrote:Why can't their be 2 vigs?

I have not seen it in my 3+ year mafia career.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:29 pm

In post 2228, Alisae wrote:Titus, at this point who the fuck is not scum to you?

The mod and me.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:30 pm

In post 2231, Cabd wrote:I'm starting to think that I'm the only person who gets syr's sense of humor...

So you think syr was joking too?

#nomorejokes

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:31 pm

In post 2235, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2226, Titus wrote:
In post 2221, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2101, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2100, Titus wrote:
In post 2097, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Cloud tried to pocket me.
Suck it
So you're claiming Vig that shot Cloud?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sure?
This? Cuz it seemed clearly a joke.

You know what fuck it I'm gonna say some dumb shit

Your post doesn't sit well with me cuz it sounds like you were softing that you did that kill. Then cabd gunsmith'ed you and got no gun. So you changed your tune because you'd have to have a knife making you the sk.

I'm gonna go back to work and let everyone tear me to shreds, deuces
Elbrin, you scum? You know how much I hate fakeclaim s and cannot tell a joke for shit.

Do you think I functionally grew balls for brains? Let's see here. There's three people who claimed vig. So, I am going to soft vig too.

This cannot be serious.

Where is your comment on cloud's traitor crumb?
Okay I'll be good

What about clouds traitor crumb?

Do you think it points to SSM?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:41 pm

Something tells me my reads were not

that

far off if Mozamis is scum.

Who seriously thought scum would nk me after my day 1?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:45 pm

Kyoko > Mizamis > Not Somia/Cabd

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:55 pm

In post 2288, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:omg does that mean I'm one of your top tr's Titus? ;-;

Nope. It just means by how the situation is playing out I don't want to lynch you for a few days.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:58 pm

Serial killer more likely than not.

Wants to appease everyone and gas a kill = SK (Option A)
Massive PR (Option B).

Those tend to be the two slots that want everyone to like them.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:59 pm

In post 2293, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2291, Titus wrote:
In post 2288, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:omg does that mean I'm one of your top tr's Titus? ;-;
Nope. It just means by how the situation is playing out I don't want to lynch you for a few days.
Jee...thanks

Had to throw out my reads and start again. Plus, there's a scumhunting reason to be slow with reads as near conftown. A lack of pushback means no check on my reads.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:00 pm

In post 2292, Elbirn wrote:@Alisae's question

Tywin's push on Sonia didn't feel forced to me? It seemed sensical. A belief that scum kill for a reason, which I share, and proposing that scum killed cloud due to a connection with sonia. Fair.

But what's YOUR read on Sonia because uhh you're all over the place?

In post 2126, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:What's your read on me altsae

In post 2127, Alisae wrote:Gun to my head town.

In post 2139, Alisae wrote:
In post 2137, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:WERE GOOD FRIENDS AND IF I WAS SCUM I WOULD'VE KEPT HIM ALIVE FOR SO LONG
I can WIFOM this all fucking day.

In post 2156, Alisae wrote:
In post 2152, Titus wrote:
In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam
Doesn't this post suggest lynch Kyouko?
To me it really does.

To me it also suggest a lynch on Sonia. It's makes absolutely no sense for her to shoot cloud that it makes sense.
Not to mention if Cloud was trying to buddy her, he could be trying to indicate to Sonia to pick him up on the scumteam.
Tho that part on Sonia probably needs more work.
VOTE: Kyouko
In fact in that last one you're even contradicting your view that tywin is "forced", *because you're agreeing with him and saying what he's saying*, that scum killed cloud for the sonia connection

And I'm kinda frustrated cuz man you're verifiably not scum now that you have that vig shot, even if you're an sk you're not group scum so idk where this mindset is even coming from.

And I just wanna, with this post, challenge you to think think think about the things and let's work this out.

Tywin is not a good push.

I want to see where this Tywin push goes.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:02 pm

In post 2296, Aj The Epic wrote:Yeah gunsmith suggests SK, but tbh it's a necessary evil at this point.

Not really. Vig shows as with gun.

Too bad Cabd is out of shots though.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:06 pm

Interesting. Why isn't that post flagging down SSM?

Which post in Cloudkicker'S ISO have you scumreading Tywin?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:20 pm

In post 2307, Cabd wrote:
In post 0, Cephrir wrote:Lapsa, Townie, lynched Day 1.
Lil Uzi Vert, Town Vanilla Cop, killed Night 1.
CloudKicker, Mafia Loved Traitor, killed Night 1.

Along with claims on the board means what we know of the setup right now is...

Town:
Vanilla Cop
1-shot Gunsmith
Vig
???

Scum:
???
Loved Traitor

OR

Town: Vanilla Cop
1-shot gunsmith
???
Some sort of protective role that blocked a kill last night

Scum:
???
Mafia Traitor

Third Party:
SK

With me so far?

No

We have

A) Scum killed Cloud with Vig here
B) Scum killed Cloud with SK here
C) Protective heals ???? With Vig + SK here

All have vanilla cop and 1 shot gs

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:26 pm

In post 2317, Cabd wrote:Right titus I'm saying my role means vig+sk is too many false results for a gunsmith. Even MORE so if mafia doctor or town jailkeeper; that's like a third of all potential results N1

Not so sure. Gunsmith as negative utility is an interesting idea.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:26 pm

In post 2318, Alisae wrote:Actually newbie question, but humor me.

Whats the difference between a normal traitor and a loved traitor?

Loved means he needs an extra vote to lynch.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:28 pm

In post 2322, Cabd wrote:Also once SSBM gets in here I think if I read day one right we're about to get another bombshell.

I actually have a revised theory as well. SSM will be here soon and Syr too.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:29 pm

In post 2327, Cabd wrote:In fact I'd argue if my hunch is right we have a SOLID townblock to win the game from now.

Do you think I am close?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:59 pm

In post 2333, Alisae wrote:I know right, it's almost like I'm bad at this game.

Stop using this as an excuse. You are not in the newbie queue. It garners no sympathy and lets scum discredit you. Seasoned players can tell newbtown from newb scum a good percentage of the time. Sometimes they cannot. Learn from where you went wrong. Adapt.

If I see this, "I suck", "I am new", one more time, I will Gibbs smack you.

Pick a read. Disagree with me on it. Go ahead.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:59 pm

In post 2334, Cabd wrote:Has nothing to do with that, but generally when setup speccing about a potential insta-towning scenario you want the potential insta-town onboard.

I will say that if I'm right this wagon is bad and should feel bad.

Which wagon?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:00 pm

In post 2338, Cabd wrote:The primary one right now that exists?

Tywin or SSM?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:01 pm

In post 2339, Pine wrote:Titus, can we be friends this game? I don't think we've ever had a game where we could be friends.

As of right now we are. I don't want to lynch you at the moment.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:31 pm

Does that make me Dad?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:45 pm

Pine/Sonia, are you after my inner redneck?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:00 pm

In post 2354, Alisae wrote:I dunno why, but I find this to be entertaining.
/me eats popcorn

^^^ is not a redneck.

We need to get her beer football and hunting gear.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:02 pm

Not in the redneck house. Our childrens know the real world and eat real foods.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:37 pm

In post 2375, Alisae wrote:Nero anything else?

He's catching up by post order.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:40 pm

Nero, you seem to really want me to be seen as scum, and have no reaction to my substantive points or the SSM wagon that formed. What gives? If you think I am scum, wouldn't you want to pressure me?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:48 pm

In post 2382, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2377, Titus wrote:He's catching up by post order.
but also, I'm not blindly giving you a town read so I mean isn't that the same thing as giving you pressure? Or are you claiming that "pressure" would be a vote in that case why hould I vote you when I've stated that I have no interest in lynching you today?

No. Not townreading someone =\= giving them pressure. Nor does a vote. I could troll vote Cabd, and he wouldn't feel pressure. You and I both know pressure involves scrutiny for ones thoughts and actions.

If you don't townread me, why aren't you scrutinizing the SSM wagon or the points I am saying to see if they check out and to possibly correct your read?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:00 pm

No, what bothers me is that you're suggesting far out reads and doing nothing to resolve the dissonance between your "read" yesterday and the new data today. You are ignoring the SSM wagon entirely, which I asked for your comment on. You can analyze the logic I put forth on wagons, especially when I ask.

I don't care if you agree with me or townread me, but you will answer my questions so I can read you.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:00 pm

In post 2388, Alisae wrote:So am I the only one that really thinks that Tywin could be potential scum for jumping on Sonia WAAAAAAAY too quickly for that NK, or am I just fuckin crazy.

It's possible, but I am trying to reset my Tywin read.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:27 pm

Can we punt on that?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:35 pm

In post 2395, Alisae wrote:
In post 2394, Titus wrote:Can we punt on that?
Is this towards me, cuz if so I don't really know what you're trying to convey to me ;~;

Table it. Talk later. That's what it means. I want to hear from SSM and Syr.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:54 am

The stubborn VCAist in me wants Tywin.
The stubborn wordsmith in me wants SSM.

Detailed thoughts please Nero?

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:04 pm

VOTE: Mozamis

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:17 pm

In post 2455, Cabd wrote:@everyone not named me: Should suspected but not proven to be Vig/SKs be leashed or instantly lynched?

Gundam Seed called.

I am limited access for me.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:48 pm

In post 2474, Cabd wrote:You draw parallel between piegirl and alisae?

Leash or lynch almost always gives flashbacks. Given the strongblock we appear to have, mandating the vig shoot a particular slot and lynching any deviation that doesn't hit scum. No excuses. Whatever we decide, we stick with.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:56 pm

Sks are not compulsive.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:34 pm

Just that Cloud said to SSM that was not a traitor crumb.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:40 pm

I am voting Mozamis.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:46 pm

Elbrin, give me a Christmas vote and vote Moz?

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:46 pm

In post 2490, Alisae wrote:I won't do anything stupid Pine.
Tho should I keep my potential targets to myself or share them?

Share imo.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:52 pm

I still think sharing is a good idea but always include multiple names, including viable players you may not shoot. It will get reactions we can use. Even if scum block you, that too is a reaction.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:00 pm

You should shoot Elbrin in the face.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:38 pm

In post 2502, Pine wrote:Alisae, also shoot anyone who tries to control your shot (Titus above is kidding). Directing the vig/SK is classic scum.

I always suggest actions to any outed PR and invite them.

Of course, I am a control freak.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:41 pm

In post 2512, Pine wrote:
In post 2507, Alisae wrote:So like this right?

Dear Santa. I want to vig the following people:
Kyouko
Tywin
Syr
Sonia
Nos
Nero
The Mod
Santa
With a list that long, we can't reasonably get real reactions. Three names would probably be most efficient. If scum appear on a short list, they'll be nervous. On a list that long, they won't be as worried.

PEdit: Maybe, Titus, but directing the Vig is a special thing. Suggesting Doc protect ObvTown Bob or whatever is one thing, controlling Vig is another.

I hate that site meta just a little less than intent to hammer.

Titus · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:48 pm

Why your wagon?

Titus · Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:16 am

Can we lynch lynch Mozamis Elbrin Tywin SSM nero

Yeah that great to Tipsy Titus

Pick one

Titus · Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:41 am

I am just drunk and trolling around my gut reada.

Titus · Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:31 pm

My response is drunk Titus. You get coherent in the morning.

Titus · Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:30 am

I retract my request to shoot Elbrin in the face.

Mozamis, why are you TRing Tywin so hard. A tywin lynch/shot also tells us a lot scumhunting wise right?

Titus · Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:05 am

In post 2585, mozamis wrote:
In post 2582, Titus wrote:A tywin lynch/shot also tells us a lot scumhunting wise right?
Maybe. But really. lynching for info is always dodgy, beacuse so often the onfo gets wifomed for shit.
e.g he flips town.
Do i get town read cos i town read him.
Or am i scum that was trying to get towncred?

Need to lynch who you think is scum, not some dodgy compromise.

Are you townreading Tywin? If so, why?

Why are you supposing I am townreading Tywin. I am not.

Titus · Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:06 am

In post 2587, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2582, Titus wrote:I retract my request to shoot Elbrin in the face.

In post 2562, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2500, Titus wrote:You should shoot Elbrin in the face.

In post 2530, Titus wrote:Can we lynch lynch Mozamis Elbrin Tywin SSM nero

Yeah that great to Tipsy Titus

Pick one
So is that a no on telling me why I should vote for moz?

No help, just suddenly elbirn is a shitter?

Titus you're talking about me but not to me and it makes my heart super unhappy

I love and value you gum drop goblin so help me Obi-Wan kenobi you're my only hope

I am hungover. Later.

Titus · Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:11 am

Tywin Mozamis Nero

Vote 1 please

Titus · Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:47 pm

Yeah, that's my newb scum game. I spent pages riling up SH and Wake and telling them to get along. Part of the reason people fear me. I won 5 or 6 in a row and GS I lost by being cute.

Titus · Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:55 pm

In post 2751, Cabd wrote:That said; Titus; mason buddy of mine; where's your head now that xmas is over and lynchmas is on?

It's in a cold tailspin. I want a VC but I am in a call the scumteam kind of mood.

Titus · Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:11 pm

In post 2777, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2762, mozamis wrote:Titus - OMGUsing me for me slagging them off earlier.
This is p much Titus in a nutshell. I feel like my d1 case on her was solid. Like, in our last game I had a scum read on me-she ignored me and then when I called her out for lurking she went on to claim that I tunnel her regardless of alignment and that I was being mean or whatever. She did the same thing here so exactly why shouldn't I have thought she was scum? So why wasn't I getting much traction? Is she scum and her team wasn't bussing? Is she town and scum knew she was/thought she was traitor and/or got off of her for the little town cred? I kinda of think the later wich is why we should be lynching SSBM.

Or you were actually just doing bullshit and should be ignored until you try to sort someone for reasons beyond didn't pay attention?

Titus · Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:12 pm

In post 2778, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 2738, Alisae wrote:Dear Santa, I want to vig the following people:
Sonia
Tywin
Nos
Nos is town gun to my head fwiw
In post 2751, Cabd wrote:That said; Titus; mason buddy of mine; where's your head now that xmas is over and lynchmas is on?
Is this a hard claim because you 2 have been crumbing it long enough and that's the only reason I can think you would claim a 1-shot GS on her when the clear call for 1-shot GS would be to check the SK suspect. Had you down to 1 of 2-3 possible Titus mason partners yesterday and I've been itching to say something since so many were SRing Titus yesterday.

Why are you mason hunting? Why did you suppose I had a mason?

Titus · Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:23 pm

In post 2782, Pine wrote:WTF?

Titus, if you are a Mason, please claim, do not claim your partner. If you are, that is a hardcore 100% no-takebacks scumslip from scum with a rolecop on the team.

Why is that?

Titus · Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:55 pm

In post 2784, Pine wrote:Because if they know you're a Mason, it's because they were privy to an investigative result that revealed your role; Town rolecops aren't unknown, but they wouldn't be actively hunting your partner.

Not a mason.

If i scumread SSM, I would be pushing this further in hypotheticals.

Titus · Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:59 pm

Moxamis Tywin Nos Nero

These need to die

*back to lurking*

Titus · Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:57 am

I'd rather do Tywin Mozamis or Nero. I still don't think AJ will flip scum. I might be wrong but meh...

Titus · Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:57 am

I'd add Nos for the Vig list.

Titus · Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:58 am

To be clear, that's lynch one, vig in the other 3.

Titus · Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:12 pm

In post 2953, Nero Cain wrote:this is to Moz and everyone else that is "scum" reading me but is not engaging with me and keeping me at arms length. Moz the
ONLY
difference between this game and RFB is that the people I was scum reading like House and Exp and whomever else actually replied to my stuff on them and/or had "valid" (albiet wrong as fuck/pushback) that I could counter. Here no one is really doing that. Yes, SSBM finally got around to acknowledging that I was voting her but for the most part everyone here seems to just wave me off.

Nero, i am waiting for scumhunting personally.

Titus · Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:16 pm

In post 2956, Tywin Lannister wrote:So I just caught up. There's nothing interesting whatsoever in the past 20 or so pages. It's all crap.

Town is shitting the bed here BADLY. It's like you're all playing like newbies. You all give the same shit reads, don't give legitimate reasons for them (the only reasons I see are for TRs, which mean jack fucking shit), and you all wagon townies. It's terribad. I pray that I'm shot tonight by Alisae so I can't be a part of this shit show. This thread is absolutely ridiculous. You guys need to relearn how to read players. I'm not joking.

Mozamis is OBVIOUS town. That's a BAD wagon. It's a fucking joke. What is the case on him? There isn't one!!! Wake the fuck up town. Learn how to play mafia. Jesus.

All the shit reads from Kyouko and Pine are pre-flip garbage based on me being scum. Titus still calls me scum without any actual evaluation. Cabd sits in a corner with popcorn. Nos wants to lynch an SK/maybe vigi over scum. Kyouko calls that lurking fuck town for it. Pine does Jack shit all game, every post is absolute garbage fluff, yet nobody questions him on it. Mozamis gives actually legit reads that make sense and gets a quick wagon for it. Alisae jumps on it due to not knowing how to play. Elibrin is obvious town and will be NK'd for it most likely. Titus has been useless the entire day. Gamma is obvious scum. Who am I missing? Anyone? Syryana... Probably scum since he hasn't reappeared since his fake vigi claim that our 'Vigi Alisae whose probably SK' won't call him out on. What else?

Honestly, this game is fucked. Scum will easily win. Town have no ability to give decent reads, and the amount of pre-flip garbage and useless theories constantly thrown out only prove that point more and more. This game is one of the worst town performances I've seen in a very long time. Scum aren't even playing well. They just don't have to do a thing. Town mislynch all on their own. Scum just hop on.

Again, mozamis is town. Lapsa's wagon I understood. He screamed scummy in his personality and play style. Mozamis screams town and you people wagon him for it. Why? Because you disagree with his reads. You disagree with his reads, because your own are absolute shit. This is seriously a learn 2 play issue. Some of you need to relearn the game or take a break from it. 100% serious here.

People who are probably town or third party (SK, or something stupid like survivor):

Titus
Cabd
Mozamis
Elibrin
Alisae (I don't care whether she's vigi or SK, she's not the lynch target under any circumstances)
Me (but who cares, I'm an easy mislynch tomorrow if Alisae doesn't shoot me)

Probably scum:

Pine
AJ
Gamma

Null but lean scum over town:
Nos
Kyouko
Syryana

Did I miss anyone?

Chew on that list. Mozamis is CLEARLY a scum driven wagon. It's terrible.

I want Pine lynched more than anyone, but since town won't give me that wish, I'll vote the other leading wagon in AJ, who at best is null and at worst is a useless scum fuck. Just saying.

VOTE: AJ

Alisae: please shoot me tonight. Otherwise, please shoot obvious scum Pine.

Why are you fretting with so many obvious town?

Titus · Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:17 pm

In post 2979, Nero Cain wrote:Titus acting like I haven't been scumhunting lawal

You make any progress on sorting anyone? Right now I see a man lurking out the thread since Cabd announced his result.

Titus · Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:23 pm

In post 3005, Alisae wrote:None here.

Dear Santa, I want to vig the following people
Tywin
Kyouko
Cabd

Yeah no on kyko or cabd

Nero nos tywin

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:17 am

I always scumread Masons. Ffs. Claim it. There's a fakeness to mason reads because they have hidden info. :@

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:17 am

In post 3045, Aj The Epic wrote:It's actually seriously obvious Tywin was a mason with Mozamis. As soon as mozamis flipped, I wanted to kick myself for not seeing it.

Syr is the mason. Tyr is whiteknighting scum most likely.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:27 am

In post 3050, Aj The Epic wrote:Mozamis and Tywin have fucking identical reads. They both were convinced each other was town.

Yeah, makes sense. One is a townbeard. I am not arguing this with you further.

Do you want to vote Nero?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:32 am

AJ, not my question. Are you protecting Nero or something?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:39 am

Again, not my question. What do you think of Nero?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:49 am

Hey, anyone have a reason to TR Nero?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:02 am

VOTE: Nero

Either this hunts today or dies.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:13 am

Tywin and Syr are still candidates for lynching. If we derp and hit the other mason, we unvote.

This reeks of protecting Tywin.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:42 am

Actually, I wanna do this.

VOTE: Tywin

All hail the gods of VCA and truth.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:56 am

Elbrin, Pine...talk it out.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:40 am

Shading the dead guy...

Yeah this is the third derpslip. Dude fakes them underpressure

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:42 am

In post 3090, Tywin Lannister wrote:I'm not dead? And that scum Nos is? Nice shot Alisae.

Also, I think via DOES matter. D1, when Titus was pushing Lapsa's wagon after mine failed, I tried pushing Nos (Eliburn did as well), but nope... Titus had to have Lapsa! She's never once mentioned Nos all game. She's not the lynch today due to Cabd, but it makes Cabd suspect along with her.

Also, Kyouko is scum. He kept calling Nos town for no reason. I want kyouko's scummy head on a platter.

How can anyone be townreading this?

How can any town player think Cabd is suspect but Nos flipped scum...and they flipped the same night...

This is fake.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:42 am

In post 3089, Elbirn wrote:
In post 3076, Titus wrote: All hail the gods of VCA and truth.
Can we see this vca? With two scum flips we're in a good spot for analyzing votes and interactions.

Later but yes.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:47 am

In post 3098, Aj The Epic wrote:
Titus wrote:Shading the dead guy...

Yeah this is the third derpslip. Dude fakes them underpressure
Yeah he's not the mason.

Titus, how does his pushes make sense from a scum perspective? Why pick a fight with you here, why go after kyouko (whose main proponent for a wagon listed him as a no-lynch today)? I think his actions are reckless and off-base but for little benefit of scum.

Because he's more concerned with faking townslips than scumhunting.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:50 am

In post 3099, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 3092, Titus wrote:Shading the dead guy...

Yeah this is the third derpslip. Dude fakes them underpressure
You can lynch me, but after, please admit you're not good at scum reading whatsoever. I'd be the third town you wagon. You're not playin well at all this game. If you weren't so incompetent and also lucky that Cabd investigated you, I'd say you'd have to be scum for how bad you've been playing. It really seems fake af.

You're scum, but even if you weren't. I am taking out a player who selectively reads and does shit analysis this game. You need to die.

It also fills in our wagons for VCA.

If you want to remain alive, do something worth keeping you that way.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:50 am

In post 3101, Aj The Epic wrote:But he should know he doesn't win a fight with you at this point.

He's dying anyway, why clear anyone else?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:57 am

In post 3105, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 3098, Aj The Epic wrote:
Titus wrote:Shading the dead guy...

Yeah this is the third derpslip. Dude fakes them underpressure
Yeah he's not the mason.

Titus, how does his pushes make sense from a scum perspective? Why pick a fight with you here, why go after kyouko (whose main proponent for a wagon listed him as a no-lynch today)? I think his actions are reckless and off-base but for little benefit of scum.
My actions are reckless and off base? How? I'm at work, so I'm not caught up, and I only checked to see if I'd been NKed yet, but I find it absolutely hilarious that all my reads have been mostly correct, while all the players who've been gunning for me all game have consistently wagoned town and zero scum. That's really funny to me, because regardless of the outcome, I was proven right, while players who've been whining and crying about lynching me all game have been proven to be nothing but a detriment to town.

I haven't been on a single town wagon this game. You all join shit wagons without reason, don't listen to obvious town players, and still refuse to acknowledge you were wrong. I think Titus needs to just stop and let others handle things, since she's been nothing but bad for town as far as I've seen. Maybe she redeems herself starting now, but all her wagons and reads have been shit the entire game up til now. Yes, I'm gloating. She deserves this in this specific game.

You cannot simultaneously argue that I am shit town and that you haven't been on a town wagon all game.

Can you go even one post without a shading contradiction?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:02 am

Can you stop fucking coaching scum AJ?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:08 am

In post 3113, Tywin Lannister wrote:How can't I argue that you're shit town and that I've not been on town wagons? They don't correlate, and the second is a fact. The first is just an opinion, but one that's been proven correct so far this game. I'd say you were scum if Cabd didn't investigate you. I didn't see his flip before, so I suppose that clears you. Due to that, it means you're shit town instead of scum.

You were on my wagon. I am town. You seem to be dispensing with Cabd faking his result nonsense. Thus, you were voting town. So, no, not every vote you have made in this game is right.

So, why are you causing me to vote you? Here's a hint. Start reading and stop trying to fake townslips. No matter how many you fake, it doesn't change anything.

Stop contradicting yourself and post something coherent if you want to live.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:22 am

In post 3116, Tywin Lannister wrote:Honestly, at this rate, you all have a better chance of winning by voting no lynch and letting Alisae carry town to victory. The brand new player has made better decisions than all of our town leaders combined after last night. I think that goes to show something here. The only confirmed player is Titus now, so if she wants me lynched, I should be the lynch. That being said, when I flip VC like I claimed on D1, you can all blame the town loss on her.

No. I work like shit as Queen Titus.

Is making an analysis post with coherent reads difficult?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:33 pm

@Tywin,

Town sucks and is lynching town.
Self fail hammers.
Can you do one reads list that isn't a blatant contradiction?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:40 pm

Why is Elbrin lock town?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:41 pm

In post 3133, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 3127, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 0, Cephrir wrote:Still enjoying the summer breeze (alive)

Pine

Nero Cain

gerryoat

Gamma Emerald
Aj The Epic

xSoniaNevermindx

ssbm_Kyouko

Alisae

Tywin Lannister

Elbirn

Titus
UNVOTE:
so in 3127 I was working on a list for the vigi pool since we're getting so close to lynch. Not gonna let this go through without Nero, Gerry, and Gamma posting first though

Anyways green should be off limits to Alisae, Red preferred shots, No color is fair game. That's my opinion. Titus, thoughts on this list?

Why are you TRing Elbrin

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:45 pm

In post 3139, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 3136, Titus wrote:Why is Elbrin lock town?
General gut read. He was my most town player D2 and j figured he'd be NK'd for it. Cabd was a surprising NK because it confirms you. Either scum made a bad move there or theres some loophole with gunsmith not finding a gun on you that allows for you to still be scum.

So yeah, Cabd NK was stupid on scum's part IMO. Can Elibrin be scum? Sure. If he is, he oculus let wouldn't NK himself. Cabd makes more sense then.

And the two wagons were Lapsa v Elbrin, with almost evety slot voting?

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:55 pm

Elbrin, I would like a whole readslust from you.

SSM, I hear you.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:41 pm

Tywin, don't try to BoP me.

If this thread was queen Titus, I would give everyone gags. Mass votes and pop back 2-3 days later.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:47 pm

Ok, tywin is going to make this unreadable.

I endorse the vig pool but not opposed to Elbrin either. For the VCA.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:55 pm

No. Tywin making the game unreadable means he dies.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:11 pm

In post 3174, Elbirn wrote:
In post 3168, Titus wrote:Ok, tywin is going to make this unreadable.

I endorse the vig pool but not opposed to Elbrin either. For the VCA.
Titus show the world your vca or eat poop

I'll do it with the flips. I need someone who actually votes.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:45 pm

Pine, I am not lynching Alisae if she shoots scum the night before. You would be wise to adopt this.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:02 pm

Pine votes are terribad. You should be ashamed.

Pine can question a vig's leash without being scum.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:07 pm

Yes. Pine is town. Scum would not be that dumb.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:10 pm

In post 3263, Alisae wrote:Titus then why would town say this?
In post 2493, Pine wrote:
In post 2490, Alisae wrote:I won't do anything stupid Pine.
Tho should I keep my potential targets to myself or share them?
Keep them to yourself. If scum have a roleblocker, they'll let you shoot if you're aiming for Town until you're aiming for scum, then roleblock you.

Because he wants you to shoot whomever to determine alignment.

When you turn on him, he knows you might want to keep the sides even.

Of course, you are both overreacting.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:11 pm

In post 3264, Alisae wrote:
In post 3262, Titus wrote:Yes. Pine is town. Scum would not be that dumb.
I Can WIFOM this all fucking day.

You can but it's a waste of time. Pine is not on the vig list. You shoot him, he flips town, I will lynch you.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:29 pm

What is your point?

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:28 am

My theory of Elbrin Tywin AJ Nero feels good, but it's probably wrong

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:40 am

In post 3334, Aj The Epic wrote:You're believing 6 scum...?

Not really. There's likely a townbeard in there.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:41 am

In post 3339, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Mother fucka if I gave reads yall ignore them

I wasn't on the 2 lynches on town
I was on the scum counter wagon
I wasn't the one who lynched the mason

Kiss my ass.

Not helpful.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:59 pm

In post 3345, Elbirn wrote:
In post 3333, Titus wrote:My theory of Elbrin Tywin AJ Nero feels good, but it's probably wrong
You gonna keep throwing unsubstantiated shade from the sidelines while continuing to do fuckall since you've been confirmed?

Show us the vca in your next post or claim scum, nerd

It's day 3. I need 3 days of data. Flips help.

Go ahead. Fight me.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:24 pm

No. My VCA would want your flip. You're getting hyperdefensive.

Dueling wagons like you and Lapsa suggests one is scum. Do I know that? No.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:25 pm

I actually have VCAed as scum btw. So go ahead. Try it.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:50 pm

In post 3371, Alisae wrote:Hey Titus! I like Tywin's words a lot more then yours currently.
Can you do me a favor and step back a bit on the mindset of "Tywin is scum." I really think you're just tunneling. If you're not, give me a reason why you aren't tunneling.

I am tunnelling. I am also letting others investigate and investigating myself. I am from the find scum, catch scum school of thought.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:01 pm

His ISO is lies, innuendo, and AtE.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:05 pm

You think town Tywin is a liar?

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:13 pm

@AJ, Cabd was full GS.

Titus · Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:20 pm

In post 3460, Gamma Emerald wrote:Question: was Tywin calling Titus possible scum or not earlier this game day?
@Ali: I don't really count that tbh.

Yes, but recanted when told of Cabd flip. Yet he was aware of Nos flip.

Titus · Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:21 pm

In post 3432, Alisae wrote:I also see a Gamma, Titus, Pine scumteam being a thing if Elbrin is right about his shit.
Think about it. Titus never agreed to the early wagon D1 but goes on it anyways becuase most of her townreads were on it. Sheep and a shitty attmempt at a bus.
Titus also refuses to think that Pine is scum.
But if this is true, then how Titus was cleared by a gunsmith is wierd unless the following is true: Cabd lied about clearing Titus.

Stay out of my liquor cabinet.