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wait didn't we (town) win starcraft? With that absolutely ridiculous flip where someone flipped that unkilleable shit?Rawr!
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right the hydra was town as well
"Cerberus is a white flag conditionally unlynchable bulletproof evil child."
remember that bullshit lolRawr!
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that was like the first game i ever had good reads in
it took me a solid year to improve from there
but i digressRawr!
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yo zor, i've got a buddy shouting at me that that claim is more likely to be scumIn post 1350, zoraster wrote:Ceph went through this game and has given me a bunch of reads. And his major message is that he's confused why i didn't vote akarin instead of BB, and he thinks the neighborizor is a town role this game ("gut" he says).
wanna discuss it?Rawr!
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In post 1507, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Sorry i should paraphrase.
They have experience with FL, TGP, Nancy, BBMolla and one game with DEB.
(re paraphrase :p)Rawr!
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I have thoughts on Nancy and FL that I am only willing to share if it doesn't result in another shitfest - There are a LOT of other slots that require my attention today and I can't do that if I end up in a fight like Day 1Rawr!
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@FL
i'm not seeing the discrediting that norwee is doing according to you
in fact, i townread him
talk to me about it?Rawr!
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I'm hoping to add at least 1 or 2 players to my townreads here and work from there
is there anyone i'm not townreading who thinks I *should* be townreading them and why?Rawr!
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ISO'ing Pine
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Conclusion: I don't think FL + Pine are a scumteam. Max 1 scum in these 2. Am not opposed to a Pine flip today.Rawr!
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DEB's ISO is completely void of anything AI. Not even an insight in Nancy V TGP V ICO? No comment on Zor? No nothing?Rawr!
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Ramcius lean town after ISO read. Willing to expand on this later if it's required.In post 89, Ramcius wrote:
Any particular thing so far you want me to comment? I haven't seen anything strongly AI yet, therefore I have nothing to sayIn post 79, Thestatusquo wrote:Heres a run down of what I think so far:
1) I like misty's responses to my questions. They dealt with the pressure well and their answers have a logical consistency to them. I don't really agree with the method of favoring town hunting over scum hunting, but at least they're noting things and have reasons for what they're doing that make a lot of sense to me.
2) Zors reaction to my vote is ultimately NAI. I wanted to see if he would place a different vote or would stick with the NbEE vote. The main thing I don't like about it is that it chooses to actively continue not interacting with the game. This is a very minor ping but I want to call it out because its worth noting later when I go back and look at zor with the benefit of more information.
3) Flavor Leaf has a whole lot of posts with a whole little of substance. I'm not a fan of it so far but like the previous thing its minor because we're so early so I just want to note it for later that its bugging me.
4) I'm not sure why ramcius is getting a pass. Nancy made a response to ico for their entrance into the game, and while they're right there's no content there at least Ico basically said "Hey I'm here, VLA!" which explains the lack of substance. Ramcius has given us nothing of the sort and their iso is basically nonsense. The only thing even resembling a game relevant statement is his theory craft response towards BBMolla.
Think I'm going to VOTE: RamciusRawr!
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There is also a big brain theory developping that might suggest FL takes TGP place in my reads but hey :p
setup spec and what notRawr!
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nancy, hot take
i wasn't actually trying to get you limmed yesterday
the main issue was i was trying to get a point across and be right (which i still think i am)
sure, it started with a push and a vote on you (which i still believe to be entirely justified), but like 95% of what followed was me being stubborn and defending myself and NOT about pushing youRawr!
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likely this yesIn post 1817, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So fairly sure it is TvT.Rawr!
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i sorta disagree on Ramcius, doesn't really feel lke bad faith to meIn post 1820, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Slots i am not interested in yeeting today.
Mistyx/Iconeum/TheGoldenParadox/Nancy Drew 39/thestatusquo
Slot i will be interested in yeeting today:
Flavor Leaf - Their push on me could possibly be to save a partner or it's opportunistic. There is also another reason they could be scum but i won't share that just yet.
Pine - Underwhelming slot.
Ramcius - Their push on me feels bad faith. TSQ can call it solving, i don't really think that is what they are doing.
Dr Easy Bake - Probably not a very good elimination since they have barely any content, but that is also precisely why this slot is problematic.
Akarin - Still an really underwhelming slot.
there's other reasons why i think FL might be scum, but it can literally be his town play i have no clue. And yeah, FL, feel free to talk to me about this.Rawr!
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i don't see how it's norwee's fault that *literally half this pl* are lurkers?In post 1833, Ramcius wrote:
So, your PoE is lurkers and OMGUS on me and FL. This is exactly why I'm voting you, you aren't doing anything this game to actually solve anything, you aren't taking any meaningful stances, you aren't making any real pushesIn post 1820, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Slots i am not interested in yeeting today.
Mistyx/Iconeum/TheGoldenParadox/Nancy Drew 39/thestatusquo
Slot i will be interested in yeeting today:
Flavor Leaf - Their push on me could possibly be to save a partner or it's opportunistic. There is also another reason they could be scum but i won't share that just yet.
Pine - Underwhelming slot.
Ramcius - Their push on me feels bad faith. TSQ can call it solving, i don't really think that is what they are doing.
Dr Easy Bake - Probably not a very good elimination since they have barely any content, but that is also precisely why this slot is problematic.
Akarin - Still an really underwhelming slot.
why aren't you pushing Nancy, who's PoE is currently TGP and me (which is also OMGUS)?
i will fight you over norwee not having meaningfull stances this game, i'm not townreading them lightly here
same for the pushes
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i've done literally everything for you here, including apologizing on the previous day evenIn post 1839, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Spicy take: you live in California. Sorry @Ico, that’s all you’re getting out of me without the highly desired anime gifs.In post 1836, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1826, Iconeum wrote:Nancy your hottest thoughts on FL?
dont put Nancy on the spot like this with this wording
I’m not okay with either your vote on me or you continuing to justify it. You’re not currently in my good graces. Do better and you’ll do a helluva a lot better with me. Your choice.
if you think i will let this game continue to turn around The Glorious World Of Nancy ur sadly mistaken
get out of my way if you are this unwilling to talk to meRawr!
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theme game something somethingIn post 1850, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How likely do y’all think it is for this setup to have 3 town JOATs?Rawr!
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i would know exactly what the scumteam is doing here if norwee is townIn post 1860, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don't really understand what the scum team is doing this game if Norwegian isn't scum hereRawr!
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Nancy, i absolutely 10000% read that as a crumb as wellIn post 1861, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
@Norwee, how is this a crumb?In post 698, Flavor Leaf wrote:for what it's worth, I have reason to believe zoraster's claim is real, even if they are scum.Rawr!
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how does one push scum!FL in a game?In post 1863, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1861, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
@Norwee, how is this a crumb?In post 698, Flavor Leaf wrote:for what it's worth, I have reason to believe zoraster's claim is real, even if they are scum.
I was trying to act like a PR there, so I don't hate the idea behind it, but I think it's possibly Norwegian trying to get another town PR dead.
Norwegian just feels like they're feeling the WIFOM I've been throwing to the scum team.
anyone care to enlighten me?Rawr!
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FL doesn't need to *be* a scum JOAT to drop that lineIn post 1874, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Why doesn’t it make sense? Nothing about that points to him being scum here. Why would scum!FL even claim that he actually was trying to make it look like a crumb?In post 1870, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yes it’s unfortunate FL had to be voting me as it will naturally look like i’m OMGUS’ing. But there’s nothing to do about it.
Sometime you get bad luck.
I’ve been discussing this with Shirou and even though i was townreading FL this just doesn’t make sense and is likely posturing from scum!FL.
Do you know how many times I’ve made a similar comment and it had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with my actual role?
In fact, if FL was actually scum JOAT here, he would have to be an absolute idiot to have intentionally “crumbed” that.
he could have a scumbuddy JOAT just as easilyRawr!
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there's a lot of little things pointing to scum!FL in this game NancyIn post 1874, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why doesn’t it make sense? Nothing about that points to him being scum here
if you wanna talk about it let me knowRawr!
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i think ur town, and that you are in a scumpocketIn post 1933, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Not everybody sucks at reading me.Rawr!
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lack of pawns? are you serious?In post 1881, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, you can tell I'm town here by the sheer lack of pawns I would have.
why would you need pawns if you have Queen Nancy working for you?Rawr!
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i think ur anything but obv town hereIn post 1881, Flavor Leaf wrote:Idk, I just think it's blatantly obvious I'm town here, people just wanna be paranoid of me because they dont understand me
i'll get to the specifics after my catchupRawr!
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yeah i was thinking about thatIn post 1927, Flavor Leaf wrote:get my partners first.
just follow norwee's townblock into PoE excluding you, and see what's left lolRawr!
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might as well be talking about a summer bar drinking a nice gin and tonicIn post 1928, Flavor Leaf wrote:ive only ever lost like one scum game where i was the first one dead
that's how AI this post isRawr!
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possiblyIn post 1932, Thestatusquo wrote:All of this is just a distraction from pine imo.
but i would rather engage and sort the players that are, you now, actually playing
we can compromise flip there if it comes to thatRawr!
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i don't know *why* he dropped that lineIn post 1941, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Why does scum!FL do that in that case? If you’re scum who knows that Zor is flipping town JOAT and you or your buddy is scum JOAT then what is the possible reason for crumbing that?In post 1930, Iconeum wrote:
FL doesn't need to *be* a scum JOAT to drop that lineIn post 1874, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Why doesn’t it make sense? Nothing about that points to him being scum here. Why would scum!FL even claim that he actually was trying to make it look like a crumb?In post 1870, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yes it’s unfortunate FL had to be voting me as it will naturally look like i’m OMGUS’ing. But there’s nothing to do about it.
Sometime you get bad luck.
I’ve been discussing this with Shirou and even though i was townreading FL this just doesn’t make sense and is likely posturing from scum!FL.
Do you know how many times I’ve made a similar comment and it had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with my actual role?
In fact, if FL was actually scum JOAT here, he would have to be an absolute idiot to have intentionally “crumbed” that.
he could have a scumbuddy JOAT just as easily
but it's layed on really thick that FL has additional information about the setup hereRawr!
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I townread you at this point. I also think your reads are off at this point, but i'm aware that it might be me who's reads are off as well. I'd love to settle that tho.In post 1951, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I think you’re wrong but you voted me D1, so not exactly trusting your judgement on that but tell me your theory. I’m not seeing it. Why does scum!FL defend Ram? That’s not what my experience with scum!FL is.In post 1934, Iconeum wrote:
there's a lot of little things pointing to scum!FL in this game NancyIn post 1874, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why doesn’t it make sense? Nothing about that points to him being scum here
if you wanna talk about it let me know
My FL!scumpings aren't coming from that line he dropped, or the Ram engagements. They are totally unrelated to any of thatRawr!
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you've been laying WAAAAYYYY to low for a powerplayer of your caliberIn post 1958, Flavor Leaf wrote:i think i need to bust the ego mode out for this one
ive been trying to just stay low and try to make it to end game so i can do a hero solve, but looks like these fools gonna get me night killed
when Nancy (who you 'townread) and me got into a fight, you stood buy and ate popcorn. Why didn't you step in? Because I think u were perfectly happy with the gamestate at that point. Having town eat each other alive in thread, derailing any other discussion.
Nancy practicly walked into your pocker if ur scum here. Most of your posts (and i'm talking a high90+% here) are completely NAI. Your push on Norwee is bad. You aren't sorting other slots, just focusing in on the 1. Ignoring people who townread them.
Why should i be townreading you here?Rawr!
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you pushed me? when?In post 1961, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1959, Iconeum wrote:
I townread you at this point. I also think your reads are off at this point, but i'm aware that it might be me who's reads are off as well. I'd love to settle that tho.In post 1951, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I think you’re wrong but you voted me D1, so not exactly trusting your judgement on that but tell me your theory. I’m not seeing it. Why does scum!FL defend Ram? That’s not what my experience with scum!FL is.In post 1934, Iconeum wrote:
there's a lot of little things pointing to scum!FL in this game NancyIn post 1874, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why doesn’t it make sense? Nothing about that points to him being scum here
if you wanna talk about it let me know
My FL!scumpings aren't coming from that line he dropped, or the Ram engagements. They are totally unrelated to any of that
i mean, you're scum or omgus tunneled onto me after i pushed you.
if the latter, then Norwegian is scum.
either way, you two both just have your weaknesses handling pressure on you showing
what does my weakness or strenght in handling pressure have to do with any of this lolRawr!
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i absolutely guarantee you that if i were scum here with you town, you were dead already after that Day 1 crumb and your reputationIn post 1964, Flavor Leaf wrote:there's a non zero chance they said to each other "let's take on FL! Show them we can be good scum too!"
props to you guys if that's what you're doing
man it would be so easy
just off FL N1, take out Nany N2, and who's left to stop me taking control of this game? Maybe TSQ/norwee if they aren't my partners
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obvscum!Ico here lolRawr!
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what is the case on Norwee even, outside of 'PoE is only lurkers, norwee not pushing or sorting' (which i can simply disprove by starting to quote his iso)Rawr!
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what did FL do to make you townreaIn post 1970, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I didn’t freaking walk into jack, I actually used my brain.Rawr!
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if ur town, then talk to me about why i'm wrong?In post 1976, Flavor Leaf wrote:Nancy's literally seen me be able to pull every single string behind the scenes because of how much I have, she's seen how I solve as town, she knows how bad it hits me if I lose.
@DEB - you would know best too, am I okay losing?
anything other then 'i would do x or y as scum or town'?Rawr!
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i haven't, i thinkIn post 1976, Flavor Leaf wrote:Nancy's literally seen me be able to pull every single string behind the scenes because of how much I have, she's seen how I solve as town, she knows how bad it hits me if I lose.
@DEB - you would know best too, am I okay losing?
or it's been a good while
why should i or anyone else townread you, because you said it yourself: you think you should be townread here. Why?Rawr!
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@TSQ
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you've been laying WAAAAYYYY to low for a powerplayer of your caliberIn post 1958, Flavor Leaf wrote:i think i need to bust the ego mode out for this one
ive been trying to just stay low and try to make it to end game so i can do a hero solve, but looks like these fools gonna get me night killed
when Nancy (who you 'townread) and me got into a fight, you stood buy and ate popcorn. Why didn't you step in? Because I think u were perfectly happy with the gamestate at that point. Having town eat each other alive in thread, derailing any other discussion.
Nancy practicly walked into your pocker if ur scum here. Most of your posts (and i'm talking a high90+% here) are completely NAI. Your push on Norwee is bad. You aren't sorting other slots, just focusing in on the 1. Ignoring people who townread them.
Why should i be townreading you here?Rawr!
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i'm not playing the meta gameIn post 1986, Flavor Leaf wrote:alright, give me a reason that isn't something from my town meta.
you think you have done enough to be townread this game
what exactly did you do to justify that? it's a simple questionRawr!
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My play here is easy
you'll learn a lot about me when you know my allignment
i'm doing this to find out if:
-i'm either right and FL is scum
-i'm either wrong and FL is town, which means Nancy is 100% town, and i'm pocketed/bad reads on norwee/TGP
with a small chance that this is all a big town brawl and scum are in the lurker pool, with Pine leading themRawr!
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They're seperate items. I'm not sure about my scum!FL read. There's enough for me to scumread him, by the post I quoted. There's part of me that is very unsure about it. And FL is so confident he should be townread, that i'm genuinely interested in the 'why'. It might help me see their PoV.In post 1989, Thestatusquo wrote:
That's about what I thought.In post 1985, Iconeum wrote:@TSQ
In post 1963, Iconeum wrote:
you've been laying WAAAAYYYY to low for a powerplayer of your caliberIn post 1958, Flavor Leaf wrote:i think i need to bust the ego mode out for this one
ive been trying to just stay low and try to make it to end game so i can do a hero solve, but looks like these fools gonna get me night killed
when Nancy (who you 'townread) and me got into a fight, you stood buy and ate popcorn. Why didn't you step in? Because I think u were perfectly happy with the gamestate at that point. Having town eat each other alive in thread, derailing any other discussion.
Nancy practicly walked into your pocker if ur scum here. Most of your posts (and i'm talking a high90+% here) are completely NAI. Your push on Norwee is bad. You aren't sorting other slots, just focusing in on the 1. Ignoring people who townread them.
Why should i be townreading you here?
I don't understand why "You haven't given me a reason to town read you" = "I am scum reading you, though."
That's the leap I'm not understanding. This seems to me to be a lot of burden of proficiency stuff. I have't played with FL, I have no preconceived notions of them except one time I played with boonskies and he was an idiot and an asshole. I don't see a lot of reason to think "you would be great if you were town" is a real argument.
And this is just a 2-sided game at this point. Either there's scum in the FL/Nancy camp, or there's scum in 'my' camp. I'd love to be able and sort that out.Rawr!
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i actually kinda townread that self-bragging lolIn post 1993, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Man i can’t take the self-bragging anymore. I’m just gonna wake up, take a break from mafia and do stuffRawr!
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i'm getting tired that you keep calling my pushes 'without just cause'... it's fine if you truly believe that, but it's just wrong from my PoV.In post 1994, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
You’re saying he pocketed me. His progression on Ram isn’t what I’m used to seeing from scum!FL.In post 1975, Iconeum wrote:
what did FL do to make you townreaIn post 1970, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I didn’t freaking walk into jack, I actually used my brain.
I’m getting extremely tired of having my reads be constantly discredited as either OMGUS or pocket. In both PA and CoD, this isn’t how he approached my slot. Yes he was tr me in CoD but the basic difference between this game and this one was that my tr on him felt far more like a Stockholm Syndrome type of thing as I only tr him out of fear because he kept jumping on me whenever I disagreed with him on anything. That’s definitely not the case here but like I said, this push on him by both of you without imho just cause is making me me dig my heels on town!FL because it’s not making any sense to me.
In a world where you, me, FL and norwee are town
who's scum?Rawr!
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how tf is pine in your townblockIn post 1997, Flavor Leaf wrote:I standby the Pine/Nancy/Flavor town block.Rawr!
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