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This ^^^In post 61, Gypyx wrote:
I mean, a quick day 1 also gives our PRs extremely potent cover, but i totally get where you're coming fromIn post 47, Thomith wrote:Trust me I'm disappointed in myself too lol.
Of course it would have been funny if this had actually gone through, but I got cold feet
With that being said, I do want to get some information out of Day 1 that a quick lim probably doesn't get us.
Naerys is probably right that there is a decent chance that the scum might have been hiding on the wagon as it was growing-
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i can't not sheep if i am just trying to join the longest wagon!
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VOTE: hu toaIn post 247, Hu Tao wrote:
Personally he feels different than his town games. He feels a bit more nervous here or something.In post 244, Snow2697 wrote:
Ι don't think that you have accused Dave of anything wrong. Why do you think that Dave's lime is good option?In post 243, Gypyx wrote:
I could do dave tooIn post 237, Hu Tao wrote: I still think we should go dave-
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See post 6In post 249, KayJayQueue wrote:
You were voting Dave, why the change once someone gives reasoning behind the vote on him?In post 248, geraintm wrote:
VOTE: hu toaIn post 247, Hu Tao wrote:
Personally he feels different than his town games. He feels a bit more nervous here or something.In post 244, Snow2697 wrote:
Ι don't think that you have accused Dave of anything wrong. Why do you think that Dave's lime is good option?In post 243, Gypyx wrote:
I could do dave tooIn post 237, Hu Tao wrote: I still think we should go dave-
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Yeah, but it isn't useful. It is the ekuivalent of my daughter asking me if I would prefer to be a flower or a tree.-
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This is a goodnsummation of some of my thoughts. It just pads the game. It doesn't meaningfully helpIn post 298, JacksonVirgo wrote: I think the question was busywork. Firstly the question is just overlying blegh, I don’t agree with Thom but also Oblivion just dipped immediately after wanting a consistent back and forth.-
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My last vote was my Random vote from thr start of thr gameIn post 328, Hu Tao wrote: The people that unvoted Dave, can I know why?-
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Because you made post 247In post 330, Hu Tao wrote:
Why am I scum?In post 329, geraintm wrote:
My last vote was my Random vote from thr start of thr gameIn post 328, Hu Tao wrote: The people that unvoted Dave, can I know why?
Don't worry, I'll move it soon-
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They were scum.with me in my.lasy game and were silent thenIn post 341, Gypyx wrote:
I think being quiet is a towntell for himIn post 331, davesaz wrote: NAS is a somewhat sus, what little there is. Probably not worth a yeet unless we think being quiet is an actual scumtell for him.-
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It was 2329, check the scum thread. They basically got themselves eliminated early doors when some activity would have let the other scum save them.-
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I didn't did I?In post 360, Hu Tao wrote: Gera why ignore my question?-
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i can't work outwhy you are so sure you have caught scum because of this. like, you have a good chance scum is in your grouping, but because of this i don't buy it.In post 363, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
I explained it all already. I'm convinced one of the Mafia spoke against the Snow flashwagon at the beginning. And Naerys is the only one that acknowledged my point when I brought it up, when she tried to dismiss it.In post 342, Thomith wrote: @Willow why do you think Naerys is scum?-
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i didn't?In post 367, Thomith wrote:
Pinging to say I think you also missed mineIn post 360, Hu Tao wrote: Gera why ignore my question?
i went back and checked, and you quoted me in a huge nested post but i didn't see anything directed at me?-
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the last 2 pages from Penguin look like they have been told in the scum chat they need to be more active-
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It was meIn post 466, Thomith wrote: Actually I do also remember someone (I think Gera? Might have been dave) say NAS did this before as scum, which added to this a little bit too.-
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any suggestions where the wagon should go instead?In post 530, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: 2 days remaining. I feel a deadline scramble coming up.
I'm a Vanilla Townie.-
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No strong opinion, I was just interested who they thought because they clearly thought saving a Vanilla townie was important enough tonsavrifice someone else.In post 547, Random Nurse wrote:In post 534, geraintm wrote:
any suggestions where the wagon should go instead?In post 530, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: 2 days remaining. I feel a deadline scramble coming up.
I'm a Vanilla Townie.
Where doyouthink it should go?
And just claiming VT day 1 in these circumstances doesn't necessarily mean they aren't a good option still.-
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Sorry for not popping in sooner.
Will look at yesterday wagons at some point to give myself a handle on today-
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Checking in.
That is a big hood. I don't think I've ever been in a game with one so large.
Was it any use? Like....I can't see a point of it. I am assuming there is scum in there reporting back (unless scum don't have day talk), so thebhood can't use it to stratergise or anything?
It just seems a pointless waste of mental spaceship?
Was someone really trying to keep it hidden to bait out a private thread investigator?
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Like....I am tempted to just ignore the hood. We have all made The assumption there is scum in there, but i dont think the odds are any better than a Random player in the game so it isn't much use for a scum hunting tactic.
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Assuming there is 1 scum in the hood, that is 1 in 5.In post 750, KayJayQueue wrote:
I think the odds are much better choosing 1 out of 5 instead of 1 of 8 (if you’re ignoring the hood, 1 of 13 if not)In post 749, geraintm wrote: Like....I am tempted to just ignore the hood. We have all made The assumption there is scum in there, but i dont think the odds are any better than a Random player in the game so it isn't much use for a scum hunting tactic.
Or am I totally missing something? Some better than me explain it otherwise?
Unless you’re arguing it’s not guaranteed that scum is in the 5. But everyone with experience so far has said there pretty much has to be (high percentage)
Sure, I highly doubt all scum are contained in the neighborhood so we still have a shot of catching scum outside but I wouldn’t say our odds are “better”.
But also I don’t fall under the “someone better than me” to explain so feel free to ignore.
Assuming then 2 scum not in the hood, that is 2 in 10. (Well 9 because I'm not in the hood)
I have no idea what you mean with 1 in 13??-
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unless there is a mechanical reason for it, then thisIn post 770, Random Nurse wrote: I'm just going to say right now I hate "towncores/townblocks" in general. Too easy to shield experienced Scum.-
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who decided this?In post 783, Thomith wrote:
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With two VT going away outside the hood there was no choice but to bring the hood up today.In post 765, Thomith wrote: I literally brought up the Neighbourhood, then have begun taking steps to solve within the hood today, so to say I'm not focusing on the hood is incorrect.
This is honestly reading like you are concerned that a town core is forming within the hood, and one half of that is suspecting you, so you are trying to break it up.
You ignored the hood before today, again had no choice but look at it.
I don't see how a town-town core can be formed within the hood if noone looks at it. Scum-scum or scum-townie core is much easier.wantedto bring up the hood yesterday, knowing it likely meant we would sort within the hood yesterday?
When it was decided to keep the hood hidden yesterday to see if someone TMI'd it, why would it make sense to push someone in the hood, forcing the hood to be revealed, when it was discussed that the hood should be left to Day 2, to try and either catch a TMI, or verify a PT Cop - both of these being Titus' suggestions.
i think we all are thinking there is a scum in the hood, and they would have warned their partners about its existence and this would never have happened.
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your read list barely changes. you not got tunneled on gypyx?In post 808, Ranger wrote: {Titus}
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because one may not be town and have bamboozled the other. i think it is in the interest of scum to form "town blocks" and cruise through the gameIn post 849, Thomith wrote:
Why?In post 848, geraintm wrote:
unless there is a mechanical reason for it, then thisIn post 770, Random Nurse wrote: I'm just going to say right now I hate "towncores/townblocks" in general. Too easy to shield experienced Scum.
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hmm, not sure what to do with that info except watch titus a little more than normal.
it just seems a cackhanded plan that would never work so why did Titus suggest it?-
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i dont think i am on board with you Gypyx in you just lining up a bunch of Hood members and running through them. i don't think that is optimal strategy for the rest of us to trust you so much-
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if you can see someone else's point then i think i've made it well enoughIn post 855, Thomith wrote:
Gypyx has been so obviously been trying to solve the game here and in the hood, that I doubt I'm wrong on this, but I see your point.In post 852, geraintm wrote:
because one may not be town and have bamboozled the other. i think it is in the interest of scum to form "town blocks" and cruise through the gameIn post 849, Thomith wrote:
Why?In post 848, geraintm wrote:
unless there is a mechanical reason for it, then thisIn post 770, Random Nurse wrote: I'm just going to say right now I hate "towncores/townblocks" in general. Too easy to shield experienced Scum.
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oh, it very much read like that was what you wanted to happen and we should all just go along with it.In post 866, Gypyx wrote:
i think you're misundersteanding me, i'm not saying that we run through snow / ranger / titus without discussion, this is more of me preassuming that they'll flip scum and how to work on thatIn post 864, geraintm wrote: i dont think i am on board with you Gypyx in you just lining up a bunch of Hood members and running through them. i don't think that is optimal strategy for the rest of us to trust you so much
you are obviously not forced to trust me but i hope you'll come around to it eventually since that's a read i'm pretty confident in
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So my posts since you've been in the game.put me as most likely scum??In post 897, Ranger wrote: {Titus}
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Loosely, from the new content; reminder I still need to read pages 6 - current.
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This, againIn post 877, Snow2697 wrote:
I don't like Dave, but I also don't like self-proclaimed Thomith-Gypyx townblock.In post 872, KayJayQueue wrote: Day 1, Titus and snow were voting Dave-slot at certain points (moreso than Thom/Gypyx) and today they aren’t. I’m wondering if they changed their mind or if they’re also just waiting.-
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That seems from out of nowhere. I checked your history and couldn't see where it came from?
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Hmm, I can't really disagree much with stuff you are pulling from thr Hood hat:(In post 889, Ranger wrote:
Being tunneled is an accusation often levied against me despite my very philosophy embodying the opposite. Generally, I hold a skeptical eye towards those doing so, as their callout usually carries an agenda; "X is tunneled" is oft synonymous with "X's reads are not to be trusted", and thus 'tunneled' is a charged term inherently carrying a negative connotation that detracts from the value of my contributions.In post 851, geraintm wrote:your read list barely changes. you not got tunneled on gypyx?
In this case, I've good reasons from the neighborhood to hold suspicion of Gypyx and Thomith, yet nothing is set in stone. I've already experienced doubts after engaging with Gypyx, as Gypyx's responses to me felt plausibly town. My reads are fluid and subject to change at a moment's notice. Notably, I've gained greater suspicion of you from this comment.-
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Why are you not voting there then?In post 914, Titus wrote: Ranger, I think Snow is very likely scum. Can't follow that. Nor do I follow your gypyx/Thom reada-
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It feels like a.lot of bad faith voting going on at the moment.
I just can't work out who-
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Sites back, yay!
I cannot deal with Ranger. Endless.posts of read lists give me nothing to work with.
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He's a pretty cool guy
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Sorry.In post 1256, Random Nurse wrote:In post 961, geraintm wrote: It feels like a.lot of bad faith voting going on at the moment.
I just can't work out who
This has an air of "don't look at me I'm Towning," and it irks my gut.
I still.cant work it into but glad now I didn't jump on the Ranger wagon
Mh main problem ks everyone seems determined to eliminate in the hood today, but from an odds perspective it just doesn't seem to have a higher probability of hitting scum than either a) shooting outside the good, b) aiming at someone who has been scummy.
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Gypyx not understanding people's concerns with the Hood 1st policy is annoying and odd. A couple of us have brought it up and they are just refusing to see our point of view.
RE: Ranger - i don't have a reason to doubt the claim. Maybe others do, but not me. Oblivion is worried that they will get a free pass till later in the game, which is true, but it would then give us a really obvious elimination later on which is a huge plus to me.-
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You don't think there are any scum jn the hood?In post 1326, Hu Tao wrote:I don't think any are scum right now
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Getting that in early are you?In post 1328, Random Nurse wrote: I have the sneaking suspicion that should Ranger flip Town I'll be the convenient scapegoat.-
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VOTE: gypyx
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Same, but it shouldn't be driving the elimination todayIn post 1347, Thomith wrote:
I am almost positive there are scum in the hood.In post 1344, Naerys wrote: I hate broken quotes
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Your overfindence is overwhelming to me. I have zero idea how you can be so sureIn post 1357, Gypyx wrote: Of course i'm defensive cause i've got it fucking figured out and like people won't listen-
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Bashes head against wall dot gifIn post 1364, Gypyx wrote:
we HAVE to vote in the hood todayIn post 1363, Hu Tao wrote: I think gypyx is the most town of any of them. I'm kinda suspicious of people saying we HAVE to vote in the hood today-
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ok, a little catching up to do.
start here
this vote, combined with them jumping on late yesterday raises concerns. if there was a bus then this is where i think it was, following up with trying to direct day 3 so obviously.
post 1412 is almost like they have set up snow for a while to take the fall today. lycan has also been setting snow up.
(i kinda want to flip snow because it gives so much info about people)
Snow's entry is very defensive.
this is so weird, these 3 are locked in a weird death spiral with each other. strongly think there is at least 1 scum in there. just doesn't make sense otherwise, feels like someone has been caught and scum is lashing out in the group
why?In post 1432, Oblivion wrote: It will only kill Naerys today.
you do know day 1 i will just vote the biggest thread?In post 1434, Snow2697 wrote:
If not the hood, an option can be to look at Naerys-geraintm (both did not vote scum!Dave, but voted town!NAS) and also at Wisp-Naerys conflict dating back to D1 (Wisp looks more town due to his vote into Ranger on D2).
Penguin voted scum!Ranger, so some details on why he is scum might be helpful.
yesterday i had no strong view on who was scum or not, certainly i had nothing to indicate Ranger was scum, hence my not voting.
what momentum elsewhere? it was clear Ranger was going yesterday from early on, there was at least 1 scum on their wagon if not both.In post 1437, Thomith wrote:
If I was scum why would I swing the momentum back to execute Ranger when it seemed that momentum may have begun picking up elsewhere?
i think i am in favour of this, feels like some good claims will trap scum with nowhere else to go. ranger already got done with a bad claim so i dont think scum are good at coming up with good claims between themIn post 1443, Oblivion wrote: It is considering a Mass Claim at this point. We have had 2 nights of actions, it wonders if a third benefits us over forcing claims.
It would like to do this in a Popcorn styling.
your snap vote post 1 today certainly gave the mpression you wanted toIn post 1444, Thomith wrote:
I'm not stating I get to dictate the day. In fact I said I'm willing to go outside the hood because I may be tunnelled, I'm just voting my biggest scumread right now.In post 1442, Oblivion wrote: We will see. It is most amused you believe you get to dictate today.
Snow is off the table.
i think though VOTE: naerys. the way they jumped off Ranger straight after the claim and gave the impression they did not want to go in thehood. also things like thisIn post 269, Naerys wrote:
Not fond of the way Titus and gera switched to dave tbhIn post 265, Thomith wrote: Any further thoughts on this yet?
also kinda dont like Penguin´s position on Wisp, but also i dont like Wisp himself and the way he "suspects" me
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My thinking was like the last game I played, scum got trapped by the mass claim, their options got narrowed down and the game ended quickly.In post 1496, Gypyx wrote: Also like
to add onto that massclaim aversion, scum are very obviously afraid of who could be a PR
let's not make their work easier-
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I'll bow down to more experienced players on thisIn post 1499, Gypyx wrote:
I kinda doubt this the game where that happensIn post 1498, geraintm wrote:
My thinking was like the last game I played, scum got trapped by the mass claim, their options got narrowed down and the game ended quickly.In post 1496, Gypyx wrote: Also like
to add onto that massclaim aversion, scum are very obviously afraid of who could be a PR
let's not make their work easier
it would also probably be more appropriate to do it Day 4 as like, we are a day late when compared to the mini you're mentionning-
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Re: mass claim.
i thought it was a good idea. but if others think it is bad then shut it down.
or if it goes ahead and someone doesn't want to come forward with their role then that is fine too-
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I have never considered 5.
I assume 3, with 4 or 2+something after than-
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