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Though maybe not, it kind of depends about how you think about people in general.
Rando on the street giving an opinion without understanding the first thing about it? Absolutely.
Replacement with a hero complex? I mean, you wanna look cool right, look professional, like you know what you’re doing. Ehhh I guess the the tone is right for looking cool, but. The opinion isn’t.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Why did you think unnatural was short for lie?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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If you’re town then yeah, one active scum minimum. I believe you posted a post at me recently about how you felt about those kind of arguments though.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Also. I’m going out with friends I’ll be out all day.
To say I am sorry is a massive understatement.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I’m proud at myself for immediately antagonizing a replacement In melo, it’s brilliant play for my playstyle and if I were scum.
(Thank god Aya is town here, though, I still wonder if I’m going to be panic posting 500 posts with a massive Aya case drop).
Sorry, self aware wry observation. It’s just not a good idea to poke at your identity unless my goal is to piss you off.but I just can’t help myself.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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The nuance there.In post 6279, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
Not within my first 20 posts noIn post 6270, Yuuka Kazami wrote: You weren’t expecting to get main read after 800 posts? By a replace in?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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But yeah, true, unless you’re doing it on purpose to get identified that’s very fast.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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It’s about where your focus is.
You prefaced your post with I wasn’t looking or expecting to find a main through meta, you then used it to say oh, this player is super good scum, I shall share this with the world. But not make any real decisions with it. You can’t even, as you say, talk about it, which puts you in a place of basically not saying anything while saying something.
You just can’t advance along those lines, I also don’t know why you commented on Kaguya specifically when there are much easier players to identify some outright used their mains and revealed them as a strategy. But you did not mention, Larvae for example.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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Make no mistake, my notes are full of meta spec, but I kept it out of the game because *you can’t talk about it* but you did talk about it and then can’t proceed further and you can’t talk about it.
…I really should actually try and connect the dots since it might help me read Kahuya and then not say anything about it.
After friend drive. So, 7-8 hours. Bleh.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Context. You’re a replacement. With a slot that didn’t talk much after day 1. I also have a habit of pressuring replacements fairly hard just because I hope to crack them. I rarely do, but hope springs eternal!In post 6285, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: Further than all that, I can see how the dynamic is shaping up, I can see how both of you are reacting to my posting and that gives me more data to work with and it's kind of exactly what I'd expect if I'm the necessary miselim for scum here. Maybe that's a bit too much of a martyr complex and Kagerou hasn't posted, but more or less when I replace into a slot like this I expect to get jumped on by scum because they're looking to suffocate me and don't want me posting my way out of the hole I'm inOh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I did the same thing with Kagerou,
And after you catch up I don’t think you’ll be able to believably come up with a kaguya/Yuuka scum team.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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You..don’t see how knowing the main of someone who flipped scum might be helpful in figuring out their weaknesses in regards to associative tells?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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@Reisen, that makes sense given 2/3 players talking to you are scum. When you discount Aya. But I find the general idea that the other town from your point of view would sit back and just not try to strangle you in the crib to be kind of, well, a poor generalization. Town is not more likely to be right or wrong, less or more aggressive. But, theory. Bleh.
Aight friend time.
Good luck you guys.
Be back in like 6-8 hours.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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In post 6299, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
I also thought you were saying Reisen was lying thereIn post 6275, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Why did you think unnatural was short for lie?
But y tho.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Long line is long.
I meant using your understanding of a player to make a read, meta, not “I shall identify their main and then go read up on their games” meta.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Reading up on their games on a guess is fairly insane, to the point of feeling like scum busy work.
I imagine some might tho. I don’t think anyone did this game.
Irrelevant. Focus. Me.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Because they didn’t try to hide who they were through a gimmick or a change in posting style. It was, pretty much, intentional.In post 6292, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
No what I mean is I don't expect how or why you'd expect me to recognize that? Especially when I'm only reading maybe half their posts?In post 6290, Yuuka Kazami wrote: You..don’t see how knowing the main of someone who flipped scum might be helpful in figuring out their weaknesses in regards to associative tells?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Bullshit. <3.In post 6310, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
The only person I recognised is Clownpiece V2In post 6306, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Long line is long.
I meant using your understanding of a player to make a read, meta, not “I shall identify their main and then go read up on their games” meta.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Are you joking or are you seriously saying that the only player you think you know the main of is clown piece V2?In post 6313, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: It's true!Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I went back because I figured you were talking about some quotes Reisen posted that I had missed, but nope. None indicate they have much of an opinion on you besides they think they know who your main is. You are saying that, based on your estimate of where their reread, that you predict they found the posts that you personally find to be characteristic of your main. that they didn’t post or point to. *psyduck*In post 6268, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
I can tell which posts triggered the recognition based off of the quote numbers in between and they're correctly calling me out as someone that'd bus on d1 in a way that'd make it hard to clear Kagerou from their perspective. They know who I amIn post 6267, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Are you certain they even correctly identified you.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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That’s borderline fortune telling. You’ve made at least 2 or 3 assumptions about how they got there.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Why do you want to kill new Reisen more than old Reisen?In post 6260, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
Yuuka: new baseline. I think like 65+%ish of my townread on you comes from just existing more compared to Reisen/Kagerou. New Reisen I want to kill more than before but there's a level of OMGUS there that I'm gonna need to sort outIn post 6182, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: Like this isn't working for me at least, I need to talk to the other two to get a baseline
Are you gunna sort that outOh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Where’s she calling out your max scum range?
They said you were good scum but I don’t remember them saying you had a maximum scum range you exceeded it, I just remember that *you* said that.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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are you caught up Reisen?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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That really is the extent of it and no matter how many times I pester them for more they won’t give it to me. :<
Well, except just now. When they kind of threw out a theory on the different types of omgus and yours is bad while I guess mine isn’t bad.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Okay. If I stop bothering you will that help you do the reading thing. I’m very uninterested in your opinions about how scum would approach a melo situation without having read the game first.In post 6331, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
No I slacked off today and didn't get anything done. Was planning on getting back to it now.In post 6328, Yuuka Kazami wrote: are you caught up Reisen?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I too love dumb arguments.
But I also like winning. So, I’m just going to leave you alone until you’re done.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Oh, I thought you’d read or respond to the clarifying stuff after 734, but you didn’t.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Hopefully!Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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It occurs to me that Reisen is indeed aiming for a Kaguya/Yuuka scum team so far. :3Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Uh huh. Anything on day one, just about, can be manufactured or just throwing words on a page to justify a push.In post 6346, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
I have very little to say about it. Those posts Exist. They give some semblance of an explanation but none that couldn't be manufactured and do not alleviate the feeling of someone throwing words on the page in order to justify a push.In post 6343, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Oh, I thought you’d read or respond to the clarifying stuff after 734, but you didn’t.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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You’re right, but like,In post 6349, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
I'm just pretty over this game. I can't find the town in the three. Gun to my head it's Yuuka but I don't know.In post 6255, Aya Shameimaru wrote: If Kagerou lurks to deadline and/or doesn't get replaced I might literally scream
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I mean, of all the intentional informed plays by scum this game all of them were done by Kaguya and literally nobody else.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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You have the clown piece thing, you have the marisa thing, you have the Reisen defend and the reverse on risen for spell cards. You have the Sanae thing
I mean, I was wrong in a traditional manner, bad reads, bad opinions, bad I guess vibe reading frequencies. But the mech stuff is pretty much the opposite of a traditional Muslim nation.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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What the fuck auto correct.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yuuka Kazami Mafia Scum
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Traditional wrong town.*Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yeah, it is basically a cardinal sin to replace into a game and then say idgaf.
Don’t replace into games if you don’t give a fuck.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I have no idea what to do with that, with Kagerou, I never do, it’s why I tend to just kill them early so I don’t have to be put into this situation.
But replace ins, what can ya do.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yes, old Kagerou was replaced.In post 6370, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Was kagerou ever replaced? Its more that they just... Want to run out the clock.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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*fingers crossed*Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I made a post about coordinating with Reisen as a joke but my heart isn’t in itOh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Like right now?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Got it.
I hope this wasn’t a weird game.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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VOTE: KaguyaOh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Poke*
Don’t do this to my heart.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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That’s fine.
Ah, sigh.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Gg. Sorry.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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What reaction?
Also, Aya visited my target which means that when Kagerou visited me and stole my flower it did indeed get them watched.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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This is me not voting. Yesh.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Gunna wait on Kagerou to get here. Then do what I normally do in elo.
Which is play the game of mafia. This’ll be fun.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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As a favor to me Kagerou, Reisen already voted you so I am confirmed not scum. So please, do not vote me.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yeah, sure Reisen. Do as much as you’d like. I’ll just be over here doing what I can. If you can’t or don’t wanna answer a question feel free just to say no.
I’m at work right now so I’ll be posting a lot more later today.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I made two posts after hammer and nothing about those two posts are unique or particularly townie.In post 6408, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
when i was fake scumclaiming after the hammerIn post 6406, Yuuka Kazami wrote: What reaction?
Also, Aya visited my target which means that when Kagerou visited me and stole my flower it did indeed get them watched.
i have no idea what the second sentence meansOh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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It’s just emotion that could easily be faked, hell, if I were scum I would be incentivized to pretend as hard as I could to pretend to be ignorant about what Kaguya was flippingOh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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replacing into a melo/elo game has the exact opposite feel for me because I tend to see mafia as a puzzle late game. It’s like, my favorite part of mafia. It’s like skipping straight to dessert for me.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yeah, okay. Kind of thought I’d come back to a dead room. XD.
So, I’m going to start throwing posts out there, these are open questions and you can respond to anything I mention in it.
Since activity has been less than ideal I won’t really hide which way I’m leaning like I usually would. Initially
Right now, I’m mildly confident it’s Reisen.
There are some sticking points. Mostly a sticking point in regards to Kaguya’s informed position that reisen didn’t have a role block and how weird that is for a scum partner to do and the kind of “they’re super obviously trying to attach themselves to Reisen” the counter point to that one though is that they reciprocated, Reisen was simply weird around Kaguya. It wasn’t just Kaguya being weird about Reisen. Reisen focusing on reading Kagerou without even acknowledging my concerns about them being a team is…a very strange thing for town to ignore.
It’s even generational because Reisen 2 got here and basically did the same thing. They made a case with reasons for town Kagerou and then proceeded to say “I think I know who Kaguya’s main is you guys!” And that isn’t remotely equivalent is it?Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I am conflicted if Kaguya was trying so hard yesterday to clinch the win because they were worried it was a house of cards that would collapse if they didn’t win now, or if their entire play yesterday was a house of cards. I’m supposed to trip over as planned.
That’s where the problem with Reisen 1 and Reisen 2 acting equally weird around Kaguya comes into play. It weakens that Kaguya was planning in the long term.
Reisen is likely just a weaker scum partner and Kaguya knew that. So it was yesterday or never.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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I would appreciate if you both could find time to case each other or show me what posts or actions point to good evidence the other is scum.
I could, and usually do, miss stuff.
Though, I don’t lose much at this stage of the game.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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Yes, mafia’s win condition yesterday was to kill Kagerou.Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!-
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