Mini Normal 1940: The Apartment [Endgame]

[Eddie Cane]

prodge

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VOTE: firecrocer

[Eddie Cane]

yay a game full of day talk spec

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Finally, a little dirty angleshooting- I happened to notice that the first 4 people to confirm were me, Radiant Cowbells, Eddie, and one other person. As soon as I confirmed, (I was the second person), I was in the middle of posting in my review thread for my mini normal game that is going to be modded. I'm

assuming

that when people get their role PM confirmations, if mafia, they are given a link to the mafia chat and they would probably post. Even if no daychat, they probably got some sort of "dawn" period. My thread did NOT get shifted- ie, the little button that said "bump" didn't appear on my thread- from the time I confirmed to when the next 2 people confirmed.


I know this could be drastically wrong, or I could be wrong about the mechanics of thread shifting, but I feel like if those people had gotten a mafia PM, they would have posted and I would get a thread shift. Similarly, my thread DID shift in the NEXT 4 confirmations.



I really, really know this shoulden't be part of the game but I have searched the rules, can't find where this is not allowed, OR where it would be breaking any loophole, and I have seen posts of this nature before (in Large 203, Priscilla was in a neighborhood and thought there was another because of threadshifting), so I'm assuming it's allowed. For this reason, I am townreading RC, because I KNOW they were either the third or fourth confirmation.

Speaking of that-

@RC

: In 8, you indiciated that you were voting me in a "non rvs vote." Why do you think I would be more likely to do my opening as scum rather than town? Again, I don't think your scum, but I want to try and persuade you that

I'm

not scum, too

would scum really try and make myself and rc conf town? idts.

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wht are you quoting me? mulch said that

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voted

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VOTE: FYKUS

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henlo

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holy shit fykus is so scum his iso has no town notes

[Eddie Cane]

tes ting

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-Waiting for a hug-

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love u

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actually read the game

tes, if you retaliated to his rvs vote with a vote... how is that not retaliatory?

[Eddie Cane]

Sup luv hows things

my vote stays o.o

[Eddie Cane]

actually read the game

tes, if you retaliated to his rvs vote with a vote... how is that not retaliatory?

I wasn't really retaliating.
It was RVS.
Nothing I'd need to retaliate against, it was a joke OMGUS.

that's not what rvs is

[Eddie Cane]

@Skitter - Why do you seemingly target TesX then turn around on Fire? I'm not liking Tes's content thus far in this game. I don't know if he's scum or not, but I don't like it. To me, it's coming off as if you are just trying to state things to state things and appear you are doing things, Skitter.

would you like some whipped cream on those waffles?

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should I vote you fire

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@Skitter - Why do you seemingly target TesX then turn around on Fire? I'm not liking Tes's content thus far in this game. I don't know if he's scum or not, but I don't like it. To me, it's coming off as if you are just trying to state things to state things and appear you are doing things, Skitter.

would you like some whipped cream on those waffles?

what even is this post? Who the hell is waffling? I stated exactly how I felt. I was trying not to be a dick. TesXX's play this game has been terrible, no matter the alignment. This entire thing was to Skitter, which is who I was saying was stating things just to state things and appear doing something. And then Skitter literally used the same phrasing and tried to push it at me.

This is a bad post by you, Eddie.

lol

[Eddie Cane]

TesXX is probably scum that's mad about being pushed without concrete evidence and from what he was meaning as joke posts. That's probably why Mulch chainsaw'd onto me with a wrong meta case.

so why is he scum? your post says he's mad being pushed for joke posts. why does that make him red as opposed to green

[Eddie Cane]

If I'm not going to get the right to veto a single lynch on someone who has been lynched in every finished game that they've been in, for really shitty reasons in the game where they were town, I will start lynching the people fighting with me until I have that right. I don't really feel like I need to justify this townread so much.

This isn't about it being Firecrocer your collective push on her is fucking stupid no matter who it is. period. the end. it's bad.

how confident are you fire is town at this point

[Eddie Cane]

yeah idgi wrt mulch being scum with tes let's not lynch someone for chainsaw defending someone who hasn't flipped lmao. attack mulch for making a bad case but if you think tes is scum that's an actual wagon atm. I'm not going to vote it right now, but it's there.

rc, tes is not obv scum in any world and you know that calling someone obv scum doesn't get them voted

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really tes u had to be lamist in 251

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luv what do you think of rcs alignment atm

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fire what's your opinion of rcs defense

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-Waiting for Mulch to come on-

Actually, this ties in with Mulch chainsawing me as well.

Boonskiies how much crack do you smoke daily?
Explain how me waiting for Mulch to come online is a partner interaction. I'll get popcorn for when you do it.

Mulch I will lynch you if you try to push me as scum for defending Firecrocer. You should know better.

Link games where you have seen him be lynchbait.

1) it's a her
2) viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72508 is her only finished town game

Okay, so what is it about that game and this game that lead you to believe firecrocer is town?

-Waiting for Mulch to come on-

Actually, this ties in with Mulch chainsawing me as well.

You did pre flips as scum last time. Something to note.

To be fair just because you do something in one game as town or scum doesn't inherently mean it's probably indicative of that alignment that you do it in this game.

@Skitter - Why do you seemingly target TesX then turn around on Fire? I'm not liking Tes's content thus far in this game. I don't know if he's scum or not, but I don't like it. To me, it's coming off as if you are just trying to state things to state things and appear you are doing things, Skitter.

would you like some whipped cream on those waffles?

what even is this post? Who the hell is waffling? I stated exactly how I felt. I was trying not to be a dick. TesXX's play this game has been terrible, no matter the alignment. This entire thing was to Skitter, which is who I was saying was stating things just to state things and appear doing something. And then Skitter literally used the same phrasing and tried to push it at me.

This is a bad post by you, Eddie.

lol

Is that your entire response to something?
just "lol"

lol

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: tes

[Eddie Cane]

What's wrong with his response to Boon?

I want him to explain why Boon's post is inaccurate or invalid. Instead of just saying lol.

How do you get inaccurate or invalid from laughing?

He doesn't need to explain anything. He could've very well realized he was wrong about Boon waffling there and just found the way he was addressed funny.

True, I guess.
Still want to know what Eddie actually thinks about Boons post.

lol was accurate

[Eddie Cane]

I don't need anything to specifically make me believe that Firecrocer is town when I think you scumvoted her and every reason given as to why she's scum is bad.

you didn't answer my question

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I mean I townread her in general, vaguely. I'm not super certain that she's town with no flip on you, but I trust my vague townread on her more than everyone else's confident scumreads.

No I'm not saying she lied. I'm saying that all those things are simply anti-town or NAI. I found her investment in it not only unreasonable, but unlikely.

Unlikely under the presumption that she thinks in the exact same way that you do: sure. but this reasoning will lead you off many cliffs in mafia games.

hm.

[Eddie Cane]

rc... 299 you just described competent scum. if you're assuming all scums are competent that's a joke

[Eddie Cane]

Ask me in scum PT

*something something only scum claim scum*

[Eddie Cane]

rc... 299 you just described competent scum. if you're assuming all scums are competent that's a joke

299 described all scum. Even newbscum try to have views that the group will feel are reasonable. Town usually do not.

I disagree. it's more common than not but not a rule id go by. group think is a well known scum tell (as is posting stuff rather than analyzing it), and i dont think its reasonable to say scum don't usually try and avoid hitting thst scum tell

[Eddie Cane]

egos are the biggest thing preventing most ppl from being "good" players but anyways busy irl be back tomorrow

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Why so harsh on RC? Give me a really good reason to suspect RC.

VOTE: jin

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TesXX is probably scum that's mad about being pushed without concrete evidence and from what he was meaning as joke posts. That's probably why Mulch chainsaw'd onto me with a wrong meta case.

so why is he scum? your post says he's mad being pushed for joke posts. why does that make him red as opposed to green

this is part of whether or not I vote boon. i don't get why town would not be angry at being pushed for joke posting

btw the last line is because my girlfriend was looking over my shoulder and I wanted to confuse her

[Eddie Cane]

really tes u had to be lamist in 251

what needs explaining lol

[Eddie Cane]

Note that eddie, with prompting, voted TesXX but mostly talked about other people and discredited the very same wagon it was on and as soon as he had a convenient place to put his vote he unvoted.

tes is looking scummier to me now. don't feel like sheeping what I think is possibly scum rc tho. i also don't appreciate your garbage play in outing our hood and spending the whole time in the hood fosing me. I'll never confidently scumread you but at this stage you're up there. btw, jins comment about you is horrible

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i like tes pushing scum rc here because I thought the same thing. rc may be known for playing with constant rxn tests but that doesn't give him cred to spout whatever he wants.

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Do you think that if I'm scum!RC you're going to win this game whether you sheep me today or not?

there are things thst make me town read you. constantly fosing me, trying to control my vote, outing our hood, a weird tunnel on tes who hasn't been anywhere near as bad as you say.... nah. i am like 60/40 scum you atm. tes is scummy and worth wagoning because wagons get info which is why I voted them but you keep pushing the obv scum narrative which isn't ok.

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seriously. you out our hood, in which you just called me scum from page 5, and used intimidation tactics. look at tes saying his rvs vote was a reaction test (that's definitely what rvs means tes). now you're saying I, a scum player with a good rep, took a comment about it being a rxn test from our hood, passed thst to my scum pt with tes, and let him bring up said private hood content out of nowhere when said hood content wss 100% irrelevant. if I was scum with tes hed have known it was a rxn test from.the beginning and wouldn't need to ask. explain to me how that argument makes any sense whatsoever.

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That isn't the question that I asked you. The question that I asked you is whether you think that, if I am in fact scum!RC, you have a chance of winning this game.

I am excited to 1v1 scum rc. I am hoping you are scum, I want a challenge. i doubt I will win the 1v1, I do think I can at least do enough to ensure you get lynched the following day. depends on your team buy yes I have a chance of beating the legendary scum!rc

is this relevant?

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My explanation is that you aren't a great scum player like you claim and that TesXX had an awful reaction.

You're both reacting extremely poorly to me here.

I'm not great. we can't all.be great like you I'm good though. i also think you don't know me at all if you think id allow my teammate to literally scum slip like your narrative would be.

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What hood

read the game

[Eddie Cane]

What hood

read the game

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That isn't the question that I asked you. The question that I asked you is whether you think that, if I am in fact scum!RC, you have a chance of winning this game.

I am excited to 1v1 scum rc. I am hoping you are scum, I want a challenge. i doubt I will win the 1v1, I do think I can at least do enough to ensure you get lynched the following day. depends on your team buy yes I have a chance of beating the legendary scum!rc

is this relevant?

Sure, but what if you're 1v1ing what you think is scum!RC and it's actually town!RC?

that will be unfortunate. boon can tell you our first game I 1v1d him HARD to the point he almost subbed and 60 pages later we had each other lock town. it is possible. i don't usually tunnel wrong anymore though.

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My explanation is that you aren't a great scum player like you claim and that TesXX had an awful reaction.

You're both reacting extremely poorly to me here.

I'm not great. we can't all.be great like you I'm good though. i also think you don't know me at all if you think id allow my teammate to literally scum slip like your narrative would be.

Dude I would probably have let something like that slide. Then I'd be there in scum chat being like ARE YOU A LITERAL GREAT FOOL BECAUSE THAT WAS A MOVE OF A GREAT FOOL.
Then I'd walk away from it: I wouldn't have felt the need to specifically warn my partner of something that common sense and I note that there's never any point where it was explicitly addressed.
Rather, it feels like the way things turned out indicated that he knew. He didn't specifically say 'HEY YOU DONT REALLY SCUMREAD ME', he out of nowhere asked if it was a real scumread.

Feels weird and in a way that feels genuine scum.

if you actually want me to reply to something here lmk but it just seems like general mumble and I have been trying to move to the hood for 5 posts before I go to bed

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I don't really care for you to reply to anything. I find it really weird that you're defending yourself against pre-flip associatives before the person has even flipped scum and while you have indicated that you don't really think they're scum.

Getting my thoughts on paper in case I get nightkilled so.

scarab is town from tone so you're my concern. if you think the purpose of my posting is to defend from pre flips that's your call.

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huh?

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mulch on what planet is fykus and especially skitter strong town?

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is this scum mulch :thinking"

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VOTE: skitter

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Eddie doesn't feel like eddie cane i know

I don't know Eddie, why doesn't he feel like the one you know?

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=71353
here's a game we both played ^
idk what to say, but i think he's much more fun to play with compared to here.
maybe he rolled scum here

lol I hated that game

[Eddie Cane]

Fykus and Skitter I have great reads on and they are town

again...

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Eddie doesn't feel like eddie cane i know

K, why not?

you've played me with what are your thoughts

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I'm not getting lynched. I'm town and nobody scumreads me, and I'm being completely transparent.

VOTE: mulch

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you didn't answer me skittles

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you're pocketing skitter and fykus

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did you just admit it rofl

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I'll come argue with you tonight

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sick of people rn. ill be back tomorrow or the day after and catch up.

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skimmed lightly. haven't read fully. the fuck happened with the lynch?

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confused why you didn't at least say l-2. confused why uzi didn't double check either. furthermore, uzi said l-1 and nobody corrected him. in fact, everyone assumed there wss no hammer until mulch selfed.

first of all mulch, stop selfing as town. nobody gives a fuck about your reads unless you convince us (can't talk about details due to rules) and selfing does not reassure us of your skill. you have good reads as town generally i admit but definitely not perfect.

but anyways. 3 big issues with what I've skimmed. did the game play out super fast or something? it's only 40 pages and not a single person noticed am l-1 -nobody corrected uzi, mulch tried to self hammer, discussion continued.

I have an interesting theory. not going to go to much into it, but if uzi and skitter a team and they believed it was l-1 that's a thing thst could've happened. a weird kind of slip. I'm not going to lynch either of them over that specifically, but with a red flip I'll think about it.

skitter, what happened with your vig shot? was rc you or were you blocked / shot someone protected?

1039 makes me worried. luv could easily be playing off a derp hammer

if tess is green strong town on scarab. otherwise, null for the reasons rc described.

can someone actually explain why tess is so centric in discussion? he seems to be driving all the content in the thread no?

more later. lunch done.

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I think maybe RC was onto something.
It seems that someone from his neighborhood was thought to be scum and relaying information to Tesxx.
So that's two scum.
Now just check Boon tonight and that's game.

so you think it's tess/(me/scarab)/boon?

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have another 10 minutes actually

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This being said, I think screen is town. He does always end up 1v1 in me as town, and I just finished modding a scum game of his.

He thinks a lot more as scum

.

I see what you are doing. You are trying to discredit me before I even get started.

Like, you are doing the EXACT same thing Mulch was doing of claiming someone as scum, then not voting that person.

You're giving even less reasons than Mulch, though

.

My vote isn't doing much as the lone vote. Especially when Tess already has a wagon. No reason to switch it today.

this is reachy as hell

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boon stop fucking self metaing holy shit your iso is obnoxious I'm going to deathtunnel you if you do that more than once this day phase

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i know you self meta and theory as either alignment but thst doesn't make it any less obnoxious

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I'm not shading Tes. I'm town reading Tes. I stated him as the mislynch already, stated that if I were to think Eddie was town, then I think the entire Mulch wagon was town. You stated I was shading but going elsewhere.

Also....THAT'S THE EXACT THING I SAID YOU AND MULCH WERE DOING. Why is everyone saying the exact same thing I called them out for on me? Is this an experimental game to see who can drive Boon the craziest? Do you guys take turns with it or something? Who's next? Fykus? We gonna 1v1?

why does my alignment make mulch wagon all town I didn't even push him

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Like...put yourself in my position right now knowing that I had to come into this game paranoid of it happening again with RC, only to have it happen with Mulch and you. Not exactly the same, but still. I was already going to be on edge this game.

This is AtE. Is doesn't matter to me. Move past it for now.

k. I AtE all the time as town. Point? Still a thing I wanted to say.

he said it doesn't matter. isn't that a point? this is just forcing a point

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@Skitter - Why do you seemingly target TesX then turn around on Fire? I'm not liking Tes's content thus far in this game. I don't know if he's scum or not, but I don't like it. To me, it's coming off as if you are just trying to state things to state things and appear you are doing things, Skitter.

TesXX is probably scum that's mad about being pushed without concrete evidence and from what he was meaning as joke posts. That's probably why Mulch chainsaw'd onto me with a wrong meta case.

Not pushing you today, obviously, but I'm not at all a fan of you agreeing that TesXX as scum and using it as leverage to push a case on someone else.

Honestly, I don't really care about TesXX right now. Now that I'm not afraid of being a dick this game, TesXX can be town and die for all I care. Don't claim scum like that. Initially I thought that's why you were pushing Tes, as a "lynch these people immediately to stop this from happening". My Mulch case is coming from a place where I targeted Tes then right after Mulch targeted me.

I'm not letting someone get away with an incorrect evaluation of play. Like, Mulch is just wrong no matter what way you look at it.

VOTE: Skitter

Skitter today. Mulch tomorrow. Tes is the mislynch bait. Skitter has two things on Mulch. One was the rvs vote on Mulch, the second was just stating he had no idea if scum had day talk or not, and now they're both changing their stances and pushing the same agenda whilst staying away from each other.

That's some of your progression I was looking at. I'll let you help me and find you Town reasoning for Tess
I have to be up in 6 hours.

hm

[Eddie Cane]

I should be townread right now but there are AT LEAST 2 town on my wagon, lol

this is your problem

[Eddie Cane]

TesXX (5): firecrocer, Scarab, skitter30, Fykus, Mulch

Skitter30 -> 5 (Secret Agent Jin, Vedith, RadiantCowbells, Scarab, Firecrocer

Mulch (5): Boonskiies, Eddie Cane, TesXX, keyenpeydee, Vedith,


These have all been the main wagon at one point throughout this game. Mulch stating that TesXX wasn't a main wagon shows how scummy he is.

the conclusion doesn't match the research. explain how that showed how scummy he was?

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I'm not a fan of Screen being surprised that there wasn't a flip after 2 hours from his first post. Mulch was the leading wagon at the time and Screen did nothing to ensure there would be a flip in his absence and did nothing to help get one right after wondering why.

If that's what you are hung up on, I'm sorry. It was a joke.
My first post was a

Kill:

post. It was in reference to the mod not flipping that.

lol yeah

[Eddie Cane]

Think I'm trusting Vedith here.

VOTE: Mulch

vedith didn't give any reasons for mulch scum. why is trusting vedith the justification here

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I'm not a fan of Screen being surprised that there wasn't a flip after 2 hours from his first post. Mulch was the leading wagon at the time and Screen did nothing to ensure there would be a flip in his absence and did nothing to help get one right after wondering why.

If that's what you are hung up on, I'm sorry. It was a joke.
My first post was a

Kill:

post. It was in reference to the mod not flipping that.

Don't buy it.

you are scum or no

[Eddie Cane]

I always hammer myself as town. If I'm getting to l-1 it just means I'm going to be more of a burden and always mislynch bait for the entire game. My reads tend to be good; see Skitter: but people don't trust them, so when I die people can finally just sheep me.

answer this in the dead thread for later. has there ever been a time where you've self hammered and people decide that means we should sheep you? I will stop replying to a dead person but even if all 3 of them are scum you're still not as good as you think you are because I guarantee if you hadn't selfed and instead kept trying to convince us they'd be significantly more likely to get lynched. seriously dude. skitter/fykus lock town tess/boon/uzi scum, but fykus is scummy and skitter is null at best (rc was deathtunnelled on them scum and i agree his interactions with skitter make skitter look awful; he's better than you), i sgree on scum uzi and can see both of the others as scum too (none are town reads), but for no reason you gave.

[Eddie Cane]

Last time I dayvigged a confirmed cop my other reads were right so I'm gonna do it again this time and I'll be right.

lol

[Eddie Cane]

Mumble has replaced Keyen, effective immediately!

boo. wanted to talk to keyen

[Eddie Cane]

I'm going to go talk to scarab and do work. be back in a few hours.

[Eddie Cane]

also i am so fucking sick of people hammering early. i was coming back. if there's another quick lynch I'm out. can't deal with people not letting enough time for discussion. i wouldve probably tried to wagon uzi yday. at the very least I wanted to talk to skitter about his vig which it seems no-one did.

[Eddie Cane]

skitter, make sure you answer who you shot and why. if it failed that's still important for us to know.

[Eddie Cane]

it happens, yeah. rarely. don't discount one form being scum just for that IF two happen to flip red. vca is so manipulatable tho. it's also slow so I'm still here if you want to talk.

[Eddie Cane]

fire, you can answer me. in one post show me why tes is scum and why u should vote hin. feel free to quote the relevant stuff.

[Eddie Cane]

that's fair. rc is probably right, I think you're town.

is voting for people who vote you a reliable scum tell? i can tell you I omgus vote a lot. if we assume you, skitter, mulch, and rc are town, and tess is scum, do you think that has any relevance to fykus alignment? I know I have an answer to that curios if you do.

the bigger thing for his alignment is this. tess has been a very large source of content in this thread, both about him and asked by him. so you think scum!tess acts like he does? questions create content, his why wallposts are bad but other than that it's mostly fine imo.

[Eddie Cane]

no. i voted him to build a wagon and because that comment triggered me. i definitely would've unvoted, not sure if I woulsve supported the lynch. people quikclynching while I'm offline tho :haha:

I am confused by the events. nobody answered my time frame questions. frankly, I don't get how competent players (you/luv) are able to miss a vote if you're actively playing.

it's possible. either you two could have actually believed it was l2 and l1 so it wouldn't look bad on you or you more likely wanted to get away with quikclynching a good player. makes sense based on rc being the nk. again, not pushing you as scum for this. just some newbie nka;)

speaking of rc being the nk. so rc wss the nk. why the fuck did you not shoot? you were a major wagon, most of the game scumread you.... and you decide "oh I don't need to conform myself as town let's idle"??? the fuck. you're either scum or you're playing like garbage. considering rcs opinion of you, I tend to believe the former since I don't believe a "rising star" ever idles there.

I know about early day... i was here. why is that rvs argument still a thing?

[Eddie Cane]

It's not just a simple omgus vote, or a couple, it's the fact that all his votes have been against people who pushed him. And that looks scummy to me beuse instead of looking for legitimately scummy things, he falls back on "scumreading" people who thinks he is scum.
Like, literally to see Tes' vote history and scumreads just look at his wagon.

The only person on his wagon who he doesn't scumread is Scarab, possible scumbuddies if Tes flips red.

I don't know how specifically scum!Tes acts, never played with him before but I do know that as scum you should look like you're doing stuff, a better strategy is to actually do stuff but in the scumgame I played I tried to /look/ like I was doing stuff more than trying to hard push people because I was scared of getting caught.

I haven't thought about Fykus yet at all tbh

@Tes
How many scumgames have you played? What do you typically try to do as scum?

well, you said you haven't thought about fykus. that is definitely something you need to do. that's textbook tunnelling which leads to misplays. make sure you're considering town tes and the rest of the game unless you have an actual cop guilty or the like.

[Eddie Cane]

let's focus on the vig shot cause idc about the other stuff.

in 730, I shouted at you to vig for a long time. scum goaded you into the shooting part specifically, which was a bad shot, but as a whole shooting was needed. why? it proved your role, the entire purpose. I don't understand how you can believe not shooting to be ok after how much I grinded the benefit of it into your skull that game. vigging a town is better than not vigging n1, there were easy shots to make like tes. someone everyone scumread and a major point of discussion. man, his flip sure would've helped me solve the game! too bad our "vig" decided to hold her dick in her hands instead of shooting. sigh.

if you're scum, consider yourself lucky I wasn't online to yell at you yday. if you're town, you shoot tonight.

[Eddie Cane]

that has nothing to do with alignment

[Eddie Cane]

I let people vote me. it gets me my reads which are usually on point. it also means I rarely get nkd and getting nkd is shitty

[Eddie Cane]

it's relevant because me getting voted is not a reason to townread me.

[Eddie Cane]

but on a more relevant topic, reads?

[Eddie Cane]

bad

[Eddie Cane]

I'm confused, are you vig or day vig skitter

[Eddie Cane]

show me town!keyen

[Eddie Cane]

@Skitter
You didn't think shooting someone to confirm your claim was a good idea?

let's focus on the vig shot cause idc about the other stuff.

in 730, I shouted at you to vig for a long time. scum goaded you into the shooting part specifically, which was a bad shot, but as a whole shooting was needed. why? it proved your role, the entire purpose. I don't understand how you can believe not shooting to be ok after how much I grinded the benefit of it into your skull that game. vigging a town is better than not vigging n1, there were easy shots to make like tes. someone everyone scumread and a major point of discussion. man, his flip sure would've helped me solve the game! too bad our "vig" decided to hold her dick in her hands instead of shooting. sigh.

if you're scum, consider yourself lucky I wasn't online to yell at you yday. if you're town, you shoot tonight.

After a Mulch townflip, I didn't feel confident enough in my reads to vig someone. And there's like no way on this planet I was ever vigging Tess; I townread him after the way he reacted to being wagoned.

Ffs, it didn't even prove my role, it led to that entire clusterfuck afterwards where people (cough Vedith cough) were accusing me of being a scum!dayvig who lied about the funky modifiers. And all you accomplished that game was making me paranoid that you had pocketed me and goaded me into shooting. I trusted you before that; after that, I was super paranoid of you. When I asked people who to vig, all that happened was people running down the timer and me getting goaded into taking a bad shot. And I don't believe that vigging a townie n1 is better than not vigging at all.

Who was I supposed to be shooting here? Which of these was I supposed to listen to? I didn't actually trust any of these people enough to listen to their advice, besides maybe RC, but I was never shooting him here anyways.

It looks to me like Mulch is setting up RC for an eventual mislynch, which is a bold scum move. I'd say Skitter should shoot one of them so we don't have to deal with a 50 page 1v1 between the two.

Lynch Mulch, have skitter shoot Eddie. everyone's happy.

Lynch Eddie, have Skitter shoot uzi z

Skitter, don't shoot me.

If you want me to shoot tonight, that's fine, but we need to talk about it first. I wasn't expecting the day to end so quickly before we could have that convo.

Vig. Why would you think I was a dayvig here?

oh. this was about 730

[Eddie Cane]

frankly, vedith was being dumb. I didn't let him lynch you. considering I literally hard carried everyone that game idk how you can say vigging was a misplay.

try this then. why not vig uzi? or whoever your strongest scumread was?

[Eddie Cane]

not vigging n1 is ALWAYS a misplay. idle future nights if you want, 1 kill is needed to prove your role and the extra flip is very useful.

[Eddie Cane]

I'm not going to lynch you today. i also wont argue against your lynch. if you idle tomorrow we are 1v1ing. if you idle a vig like this in the future I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt. fair warning.

[Eddie Cane]

um. I meant show me why he's town here..

[Eddie Cane]

it wasn't necessarily the right play to shoot you. it was necessarily the right play to shoot someone.

[Eddie Cane]

frankly, vedith was being dumb. I didn't let him lynch you. considering I literally hard carried everyone that game idk how you can say vigging was a misplay.

try this then. why not vig uzi? or whoever your strongest scumread was?

Yes, I know. And *I* wouldn't let him lynch me even though I wanted to be policy-lynched. That's what the argument was about.

Mulch was my biggest scumread. That clearly wasn't a thing after he flipped town. I didn't want to misvig again, so I didn't take a shot cuz I didn't think my reads were all that great.

not vigging n1 is ALWAYS a misplay. idle future nights if you want, 1 kill is needed to prove your role and the extra flip is very useful.

I don't think it is. Who do you think I should have vigged last night? Who do you think I should be vigging here then?

I wasn't expecting the day to end so quickly before we could have that convo.

you put Mulch to L-1.

I thought I had put him to L-2.

I'm not going to lynch you today. i also wont argue against your lynch. if you idle tomorrow we are 1v1ing. if you idle a vig like this in the future I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt. fair warning.

That's fair.

you had a full night phase to readjust given the flip. that's not an excuse.

vig your scumread. it's simple. if you don't have any strong scumreads you vig any person who is largely suspected that you don't strongly townread. obviously, if a game has a useless player (think basically prodging day to day), that is a priority vig. imo? should've vigged uzi or tes depending on if I decided to go with personal sr or highly tossup slot.

[Eddie Cane]

it wasn't necessarily the right play to shoot you. it was necessarily the right play to shoot someone.

i never said you were talking about me in particular. Not shooting there is not bad play.

yes it absolutely is.

mafia cannot have a second night kill in a normal.

shooting someone as vig (normally) means two flips.

one of those flips cannot be mafia. it could be serial killer, but for all intents and purposes sk is town aligned until later game - mafia is a bigger threat earlier on, especially if you aren't bp. they are also uncommon enough it's not a priority concern.

that confirms you as not mafia while also dealing with a problematic player - be it personally problematic or problematic to town. it also means if you get run up and need to claim you won't get lynched.

you don't necessarily need to shoot if you are widely trd after d1, that much is debatable. if you're one of the most widely scumread people in the game, was forced to claim, and are still widely scumread going into night... that's not. if you're town and you didn't shoot you need to know that was a misplay so you don't repeat that bullshit.

[Eddie Cane]

Good to see im able to tr eddie. Theres not much point talking about the vig until tomorrow when it can prove itself. I take not your a bit iffy on luv eddie but your votes not on him yet

I'm on the wagon in spirit. need to dialogue with luv first.

[Eddie Cane]

right now I'm waiting for scarab to come dialogue with me in the hood to sort him. I think he's town based on hood stuff, none of his thread stuff was really "bad" except his second post, it kinda reminds me of scum!lexa but i also like his hood engagement. rc setup specced one of the hood was scum tho and he was very willing to blindly sheep rc ("hey make me a doublevoter and I'll make sure you're never lynched" "ok") which I think most townies would be paranoid of... dunno. hopefully he's town and we can use our hood for me to actually put my reads and stuff in case I die and he can help make sure they're pushed (when I get strong reads skitter can attest they're very good).

fire is pretty damn town. wont be voting him today. I probably won't vote mumble because boon claims he's lock town and therefore boon gets lynched and flips red before i consider mumble. this may change if I get an actual strong scumread on them, but keyen is p null and maybe a townlean and therefore not worth it. still want to see mumbles catchup. skitter gets by today, as much as I don't like it. scarab is not a lynch I'll take today (pending hood discussion being awful).

luv//fykus//vedith//screen//boon
my lynchpool for today^^not in any real order

[Eddie Cane]

it wasn't necessarily the right play to shoot you. it was necessarily the right play to shoot someone.

i never said you were talking about me in particular. Not shooting there is not bad play.

yes it absolutely is.

mafia cannot have a second night kill in a normal.

shooting someone as vig (normally) means two flips.

one of those flips cannot be mafia. it could be serial killer, but for all intents and purposes sk is town aligned until later game - mafia is a bigger threat earlier on, especially if you aren't bp. they are also uncommon enough it's not a priority concern.

that confirms you as not mafia while also dealing with a problematic player - be it personally problematic or problematic to town. it also means if you get run up and need to claim you won't get lynched.

you don't necessarily need to shoot if you are widely trd after d1, that much is debatable. if you're one of the most widely scumread people in the game, was forced to claim, and are still widely scumread going into night... that's not. if you're town and you didn't shoot you need to know that was a misplay so you don't repeat that bullshit.

I wouldn't have taken a shot I wasn't comfortable with.

What happens to you town clear idea. If the vig shot was taken on a town and I healed RC?

lots of hypotheticals. I said usually two kills first of all. it just means skitter claims the kill on the dead person, probably shoots n2. regardless of that though, even IF he's lynched thst means you have a probable inno on rc and people buy your doc claim later since there's a missing kill n1. usually if this type of thing happens town leashes the vig one way or another.

[Eddie Cane]

y'all are boring

[Eddie Cane]

typos, missed tes. luv//fykus//vedith//screen//boon//yes

tes, boon are high info. you, luv medium. fykus, vedith, low.

[Eddie Cane]

loaded q because you're basically asking for preflips but I'll answer it latee

[Eddie Cane]

um... no?

[Eddie Cane]

curios why you think that

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: screen

analyze this

[Eddie Cane]

interesting

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: screen

[Eddie Cane]

Skitter and luv shooting down my theory's gives me some pause. (Not much). I don't want to be wrong on all accounts.

If they were meant to be all town they would be masons imo, not neighbors.

I ISO Tess and then Tess and Boon together. I looked to me like Boon was distancing from Tesxx until a possibility of a lynch came and then it was just lynch bait.

I have not read the entire games. I never do on replace in. I just ISO people that catch my attention.

small note. all town hoods are definitely not the same as masons. 3 masons is a TON of town power. 3 town in a hood doesn't affect balance. neighbourhoods as a whole don't (neighbourizer does but that's different). nrg facts, whether or not you disagree that's how they approve setups. while scarab may be scum, that's not because the hood can't be 3 town.

[Eddie Cane]

thoughts on Firecrocer? I don't like his just wanting to sheep Vedith mind set. Vedith isn't towny by any means.

I honestly don't have many strong reads right now. I tunneled Mulch too hard.

fire is not being lynched.

[Eddie Cane]

again, the nrg does not weight hoods in balance.
i personally think hoods can affect alignment. I think 2 scum/1 town is scum sided for the strongest part.
regardless, it is not part of the game balance so speccing it is useless. vote me if you think I'm scum. vote scarab if you think he's scum. don't let us being in a hood control your read.

I'm bored of nai lecturing now and am done leaching a hotspot so be back tomorrow when my data resets

[Eddie Cane]

So it's not really about setup spec at this point. It's more speculation about what's going on in your hood.

okay, fair. if tess flips red I'll look at scarab

[Eddie Cane]

okay who's online and wants to talk

[Eddie Cane]

hm.

[Eddie Cane]

okay it's time for this game to not be dead somebody come talk to me

[Eddie Cane]

Talk about your hood Eddie.
Do you two suspect each other? Town read each other?
What about what RC said. Does the timeline fit? Look suspicious or coincidencental?

the timeline somewhat ish fits? it was a day or two after iirc. I disagree with rcs assertion as a whole, tess questioned the assertion exactly as I did and i don't think seeing an obvious rxn test means scum!tess is partners with scarab. I think scarab is probably town, he is not talking much though and hasn't actually been on to discuss the game.

[Eddie Cane]

Is there a reason why I should be?

Is there a reason why you shouldn't be?

Everyone is guilty until proven innocent you know.

In that case...why point out Fykus, and not both Eddie and Fykus?

Simple.

No alarms have gone off for me in regards to Eddie, so I don't see a reason at this particular time to see if he's actually guilty or not.

but didn't you literally just describe innocent until proven guilty and simultaneously fos fykus? idgi

[Eddie Cane]

There are seven people not voting.

Can all of you please put a vote somewhere so we can get a direction to go this day.
Maybe that will start the game flow

^

[Eddie Cane]

*sigh*

Do you see how we've gone full circle now? You should have just answered my question to begin with.

What alarms have gone off for you in regards to Fykus?

That was the plan because it seemed like you were not only trying to dodge the original question but also trying to make me look bad.

Quite a bit. The unwillingness to avoid taking a hard stance on anyone or anything, his voting pattern, and his shading of the Jin slot.

I shaded the jin slot.

[Eddie Cane]

Wagon don't happen on scum out of nowhere?
That should be nai.

we already went over this

[Eddie Cane]

Is there a reason why I should be?

Is there a reason why you shouldn't be?

Everyone is guilty until proven innocent you know.

In that case...why point out Fykus, and not both Eddie and Fykus?

Simple.

No alarms have gone off for me in regards to Eddie, so I don't see a reason at this particular time to see if he's actually guilty or not.

but didn't you literally just describe innocent until proven guilty and simultaneously fos fykus? idgi

What?

I operate with the assumption people are guilty until I am given no reason to. I'm saying I have no interest in proving if you're most likely guilty at this time. I have no interest in trying to prove the why or why not in regards to you.

I'm trying to see if your town read of me is genuine or scum pocketing. or, if you're not town reading me, why are you not interested in me but you're interested in fykus? jin slot is scummy, I don't see how fykus shading it makes him scum. show me why the shading is scummy.

[Eddie Cane]

I'm probably not pushing you today for ~reasons~. i am not going to ignore you either.

[Eddie Cane]

Vedith \o/

are you red?

[Eddie Cane]

@Fykus:

Sheeped the wagon because the people on it were all better than me and even if some scum were on there they couldnt have all been scum so theoretically there was a good chance they were right to vote there

We know now that Mulch/RC are town, but at the time of your vote, why weren't you worried that at least one of RC/Vedith/Mulch were scum, especially since you said you can't even read RC/Mulch. Mulch even admitted that he was pocketing you . . . why weren't you worried about being pocketed by any of them?

Yeah but I figured that not everyone on the wagon could be scum. I figured the chances of it being scum led mislynch were outweighed by the potential of some of these good players being right about the lynch being on a scum.

weird logic but probably town

[Eddie Cane]

UNVOTE: luv

Im being really lazy atm and I dont think ill be trying to make a case until the weekend atleast. But basically I'm following mulch's final words about luv being scum. Last time I did that it turned out he was right (about like 6 things).

why luv over the other 2?

[Eddie Cane]

The opportunistic play would have to just get on the biggest wagon and say I'll catch up later.
That's not what I did. I looked back and voted elsewhere. Saying I'm trying to get a random name to stick when I could have been content on a mulch wagon doesn't add up.

That's just one play scum could have did.

Why would it be best for someone replacing into a slot to do that as scum? A slot that was arguably considered a lurker by many. The same slot Mulch seem to express concerns about?

That's just it as scum why would I replace in, draw attention to myself before I even knew the game state?

You are stuck on something that was nai and trying to make it stick.

Not being able to explain why you voted for someone when it can reasonably infered that you had strong reasons to isn't NAI.

How do you figure I had a strong reason to vote Boon without no reasoning or context before it?

you definitely aren't spewing literal wifom

[Eddie Cane]

I think I want to lynch tess or screenplay.

[Eddie Cane]

Hello everyone, I believe Skitter30 is mafia. My reasoning? Pure blind guess.

Vote: Skitter30

I think that the mafia do not have daychat because hiding day chat from public knowledge seems like a regular good idea but I just wouldn't mention anything about mafia day chat in the first couple posts of I was a mod that wanted day chat.

Why so harsh on RC? Give me a really good reason to suspect RC.

rvs. k. 9 is eh, useless day chat spec. idrc. 324 is bad tho. I think I talked about that already.

[Eddie Cane]

rc is a good player and thinking there'd be a "very good reason" to vote him is a joke at that point. more importantly, scum!jin getting a townie to try and case rc is a great way to get them attacked by rc and simultaneously gets rc off scums back. this fits with him dying but at thst point it's random nka that doesn't mean much.

[Eddie Cane]

Vedith \o/

are you red?

Yes, are you?

purple myself

[Eddie Cane]

bbl

[Eddie Cane]

are you online screen

[Eddie Cane]

are you online screen

Kinda

if you're town try and be on in an hour please. busy rn.

[Eddie Cane]

I lied I'm a horrible human being and got busy

[Eddie Cane]

just work dw

[Eddie Cane]

I'm here for an hour

[Eddie Cane]

vedith and fire i summon you

[Eddie Cane]

screen what are u thinking about the game

[Eddie Cane]

luv who are your actual reads rn you're being cryptic

[Eddie Cane]

3▪°¤>
that's what I'm trying to do. this game is too dead and we have active players. a game with me/boon/luv should not be dead

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: tess

[Eddie Cane]

I don't get why ppl are being stingy with their votes it's like.halfwya into the day and almost no discussion has happened. you wuickhammer and now won't even talk?

[Eddie Cane]

screen what's your opinion of the eod now that you've had time to process

[Eddie Cane]

do you have any town reads strong enough to mention?

do you think your hammer was a mistake or are you happy mulch was lynched? this doesn't mean hammering wasn't an accident

[Eddie Cane]

answer please. relevant for me.

[Eddie Cane]

another way of wording, with knowledge bias are you facepalming over the lynch or do you think it was unavoidable/you weren't going to see he was town

[Eddie Cane]

do better than that

[Eddie Cane]

As the mob banged on Mulch's door, the pleading began ... PLEASE! I'M ONE OF YOU! But then .... an ominous voice rose above all others ... you made your choice .... we made ours. As the people began flooding into the room, Mulch starting speaking at lightning speed. He's the SCUM .. OR HE'S THE SCUM!!!! But it did little to disparage the relentless mob. They were out for revenge. No mercy. Never. As a last resort, Mulch attempted suicide. Too late, for he'd already been thrown from the 10th floor. But it was soon proven that Mulch was:

Spoiler: Flip

Just a

Vanilla Townie

A LYNCH HAS BEEN ACHIEVED!

Mulch has been lynched by Boonskiies - 491, Eddie Cane - 519, TesXX - 623, Keyen - 641, Vedith - 894, Skitter30 - 1036, and Lil Uzi Vert - 1047

VOTE COUNT 1.13

Mulch -> 7 (Boonskiies - 491, Eddie Cane - 519, TesXX - 623, Keyen - 641, Vedith - 894, Skitter30 - 1036 Lil Uzi Vert - 1047 =

HAMMER

Skitter30 -> 2 (Scarab - 725 and Firecrocer - 785)
Eddie Cane -> 2 (RadiantCowbells - 802, and Fykus - 888)
TesXX -> 1 (Srceenplay - 914)
Boonskiies -> 1 -> (Mulch - 988)
RadiantCowbells -> 0
Firecrocer -> 0
Scarab -> 0
Keyen -> 0
Fykus -> 0
Lil Uzi Vert -> 0
Screenplay -> 0
Vedith -> 0

Not Voting: Nobody!

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to hammer!

Deadline in:

(expired on 2017-08-26 18:34:00)

Mod Notes:
- Please tell me if I made any errors in this vote count
- Lil Uzi Vert is V/LA until August 24th
- Boonskiies is V/LA until Monday

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there is no counterwagon?

[Eddie Cane]

do better than that

I can't sadly.

It's not in my nature, especially over something like mafia.

let's try this then. if tess and fire are gladiated who do you vote?

[Eddie Cane]

do better than that

I can't sadly.

It's not in my nature, especially over something like mafia.

let's try this then. if tess and fire are gladiated who do you vote?

Neither at this time.

you can't no lynch a gladiation

[Eddie Cane]

He is the counter wagon. The other player was Tess but it dissolved. Got turned around onto mulch.

is this just tess being a wagon early (when I was around) or was he the big wagon before mulch (and recently)

[Eddie Cane]

When I look at the mulch lynch there are only two people I town lean.

additional question, what tess wagon are you looking at? compare the voters to the mulch wagon if you care

[Eddie Cane]

lol if you can't tell what I'm doing
am trying very hard to create content
me...
i am going to sleep soon so hopefully more people post
since work is long atm you have like 16 hours until I'm off
thanks all

[Eddie Cane]

do better than that

I can't sadly.

It's not in my nature, especially over something like mafia.

let's try this then. if tess and fire are gladiated who do you vote?

Neither at this time.

you can't no lynch a gladiation

Didn't know that.

The role should be worded better

tbh I've only seen it in a game twice so it could just be moderator preference. it's a shitty role anyways. most lynch type roles are.

[Eddie Cane]

Content will come naturally. Forcing it doesn't work.

sometimes content comes naturally. sometimes it doesn't and deadline lynches happen. content will come when's scarab posts a catchup, when tess replies to skitter, when boon catches up. I still want to post while im on. I'm busy with work so that's not much rn. rti is also how I do a lot of.my sorting.

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE COUNT 1.9
TesXX -> 6 (Firecrocer - 57, Scarab - 379, Skitter30 - 383, Mulch - 498, RadiantCowbells - 504, and Fykus - 562)

Mulch -> 7 (Boonskiies - 491, Eddie Cane - 519, TesXX - 623, Keyen - 641, Vedith - 894, Skitter30 - 1036 Lil Uzi Vert - 1047 = HAMMER

What did you want me to see between the two?
Skitter on both?

whatever you want to see. you think it was a counterwagon. comparing the wagons helps that. I didn't want you to see anything, I didn't even know what the wagon you were looking at was.

[Eddie Cane]

do you want to try something that takes a bit of time but helps me game solve when I have games I want to try hard?

[Eddie Cane]

yeah same. I can tell you if you want to do it tomorrow or whenever tho.

[Eddie Cane]

try reading tess's iso as if you had the knowledge he was ic. post whatever useful information you get from both his iso (interactions etc).

AFTER YOU HAVE POSTED read over your post and go over why you think tess is scum. see if scum is still more plausible or if you were just tilted.

this is how I correct for scum I townread. I do it before I hard push almost any lynch in a game I trthard in (not many recently).

[Eddie Cane]

nighr

[Eddie Cane]

Speaking of claiming scum, RC, did you actually think I was scummy for claiming scum?

Is it Scarab or Eddie that told you what I said in neighbourhood that made you ask this question?

No, can you stop dodging my questions?

Something to think about

@Eddie, or Scarab's replacement if they come
Do you know what specifically in the hood RC was referring to here?

yes. a day or two before thst post I called rc out on his rxn test and said town claim scum plenty.

[Eddie Cane]

Like, I honestly don't see why he's a bad lynch and people town read him so hard.

he is a fine lynch. activity might actually be a scum tell for vedith \o/

[Eddie Cane]

I mean, that's what he's done until now, and Fykus kind of did, and Scarab until they got replaced.
Creature survived a long time by doing that last game I was in.

lol if you can't catch scum!creature you have lots to know

[Eddie Cane]

I don't either. I think it's stupid because it was an obvious rxn test from a player who literally plays on rxn tests. it's also objectively wrong, I think I've seen close to half this game claim scum as town.

[Eddie Cane]

We should lynch Scarab I think.

him lurking out isn't scum indicative I don't think. he spent the whole or complaining about game moving too fast. he as supposedly catching up, idk why mod replaced him.

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: screen

[Eddie Cane]

deas

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: tess

[Eddie Cane]

it's shady out here

[Eddie Cane]

every person besides una votes in their next post or we lynch em

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: skitter

[Eddie Cane]

anyone wanna make me a quadruple voter?

[Eddie Cane]

he's catching up. I am always ok with people sheeping me, I'm very confident in my reads.

[Eddie Cane]

especially considering you want everyone to place down a vote, which I agree with seeing as the day phase is half over and half the game wasn't voting

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: tes

[Eddie Cane]

because he didn't vote. but I'd rather pressure the replacement.

skitter, you vote in your next post or I am death tunnelling you even if you Reveal as ic.


anyways, on the topic. skitter, would you agree to shoot screen tonight? if so, mumble, what would your take on tes/vedith lynch be? luv is off the table for reasons I've said in the hood and won't be posting today, so my lynch pool is smaller.

[Eddie Cane]

vedith and the replacement both get to post catchup so we won't be shoot on content either

[Eddie Cane]

I thought about it. if we let skitter shoot freely it gives himt o.o many options. I don't town read her enough to let her decide


if we come back from night with two dead people including you, we have a confirmed vig regardless of your flip.
if we come back from night with you dead and scum, and only you dead, obviously perfect.
if we come back from night with you dead and town, and only you dead, I don't care because you were a scummy player and could've been mislynched, plus it means skitter is now conf town.

this all applies to vedith and tes too. those slots both interest me more than yours does tho. if you're town I don't great gamesolving, especially since last time we played you got mislynched in lylo when you were scumread similar to this. long time ago throwback lmao I think boon was in that game.

[Eddie Cane]

if skitter wont agree to you ill give him a name in vedith and tes, if anyone wants to argue a better target do it now before we lock in screen vig.

[Eddie Cane]

mafia doc means skitter is probably sk. if there's a mafia rb that is always a complication with vig claims.

but, I think you may have perspective slipped so follow up post

[Eddie Cane]

If their is a mafia rb or doc what does that do to your shot calling plan?

you don't like shot calling because mafia can choose to rpleblock a big if they're going to hit scum but not if town, because a town death is a town death, right? because otherwise if you think they'd block a vig regardless of shot calling shot calling wouldn't matter

but if you know you're town, why would that be an issue? you, a widely scumread townie, getting killed in exchange for a conf town scummy player. this removes skitter as a mislynch and means town doesn't waste a lynch on you.

so, you believe scum only roleblocks if a scum death is happening. you are town. you don't want shot called at you because of a scum roleblocker.

I assume that's what you want me to believe. explain where I'm wrong here. cause from my pov, you just perspective slipped.

[Eddie Cane]

so let's pause a sec. read my post because there's a lot of assumptions. do you disagree with any of those assumptions?

[Eddie Cane]

those aren't my assumptions. I'm asking if they're yours, since you're so against directing vigs. unless you're not against directing vigs?

[Eddie Cane]

do you agree to getting leashed yes or no I'm not going to keep hounding you for yes or no answers

[Eddie Cane]

I'm not a vig and vigscant self kill...?

let's go over this one more time from the beginning. screen, are you personally against leashing big and why or why not

[Eddie Cane]

What is leashing big? Explain it to me.

vig

[Eddie Cane]

do you approve of leashing the vig. do you approve of directing who skitter vigs. yes or no. Jesus Christ this is not that complicated

[Eddie Cane]

do you approve of leashing the vig. do you approve of directing who skitter vigs. yes or no. Jesus Christ this is not that complicated

Leading is telling the vig who to shot?

Then no. At this time I don't think that is a good call.

so the why is the important part

[Eddie Cane]

id be ok with that

[Eddie Cane]

it depends on the slots catchup tho

[Eddie Cane]

I don't mind the leashing of a kill, but I don't think Srceen is the best vig target. He's one of the most active players this game, and I think he's more likely to be town than scum.

he's also misreading me, and if you're town he's misreading you. so, we know his reads are bad atm.

he's being widely scumread and will likely get lynched at some point

he's active, but why does thst remove his scummy factor? you're usually active. I'm usually active. luv is usually active. you fuckers just need to post more. not vigging someone for being "active" is trash.

[Eddie Cane]

Eddie you already know my issue with the hood. In my view it doesn't look good to you that we got a replacement there and you don't show no concern for that slot giving any type of update or options on it. But you are ok with them blindly sheeping you.

that's not even close to what I said. that slot said, in the hood, they are catching up. in the mean time they are sheeping me. that doesn't excuse them from having to produce content, it just means that they're actually contributing to the game via a vote while catching up. why is that an issue?

[Eddie Cane]

now, I didn't ask about the hood. I. asked. about. why. you. are. against. leashing. skitter.

why does every one in this game have reading issues

[Eddie Cane]

after all his bitching he's not voting. =/

can more than 1 of you actually post more than once every other day what the fuck