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My emperor died a long time ago - that's why I'm the last knight. Neither of these charlatans are worthy of my fealty.In post 38, RCEnigma wrote:A knight that's loyal to no emperor is no knight at all.-
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After waking up and reading through all of this, why am I not surprised to see RCE jumping to defend BEF? Too lazy to quote right now, but I have hard scum reads on both of these acronyms. I already threw my random accusations at the Emperors here but I may be willing to point at one of these two instead. RCE hasn't even bothered to deny being scum up until now either, so we may as well just vote him.-
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I did smell scum flakes when I read BEF's posts but I also see the chance of it being too much pot stirring to be scum. It's too attention grabbing. So I see this as trolling, at least for now.
I want to return to my original claim and echo Ramcius on ending the monarchy by voting for an Emperor. Preferably the Boon looking imposter. I just think Emperors New Groove is a bit too bold with Boonskiies around.-
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I eased up on BEF after reading some posts from others saying it was too paranoid to be scum. I could go either way because it could be fake paranoia too.
RCE, I want to scum claim you because all you've done is scum claim me because of my name. But it's only too early to tell.
I maintained and reignited my scum claim on Emperors New Groove because neither person in that hydra have posted more than one post collectively, and I'd like to force a response. But also because I want to limit the number of people with Emperor in their name to one (for nickname's sake) and because our lord and savior Boonskiies uses Kuzco as his avatar.... And there can only be one...
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Basically, I have no proper reads and I'm trying to learn the tendencies of others. This knight likes to learn who to pledge loyalty to by learning how everyone else thinks. I am just trying to do the right thing.
My claims against the Emperors are very much "just cuz" and I have remained largely facetious on that point. I doubt anyone but you read much more into that claim beyond just pointing the finger early on D1 because why not.
I did expect you to respond to me though, which is why I didn't bother mentioning you in my posts. You were bound to bring it up on your own. You performed beautifully at labeling yourself as anti-knight. Your reasons for suspecting me are as debased as mine are for suspecting either Emperor, except you're serious and everyone knows I'm joking.
Let the line be drawn. I have the queens on my side and that's all I need to bring justice to this game show.-
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If you want me to expand on my read for Fish, I will.
I thought it was annoying that BEF was harping on a word choice and then saw you, my main dissenter RCE, side with Fish for no reason. You hadn't said anything in pages and then piped up when Elsa wanted to vote BEF. It seemed all too convenient for BEF that you would defend him so easily and with no real reasoning of your own. BEF was an accessory to my scum read on YOU because why else would you two collude.
The difference between you and Fish is the use of sound evidence. I didn't agree with BEF's reasons but at least they existed. You have no real reason to claim me scum. Just your weird issue with me wanting to kill the Emperors. And you just become more and more suspicious with your half-baked claims.
I'm not afraid of calling out suspicious behavior but I also saw no real reason to go back on my original joke claim... until now. I feel far more confident in voting for RCE to kill with all these desperate claims against me.-
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I don't mind the day ending early as long as those who have the power to end the day all take the time to add to the discussion. But this game is still cresting dawn...
I was told someone would be coming to get me as soon as you woke up. Meh, I was going to make a sassy comment, but I literally was messaged AS I was typing this.Last edited by Boonskiies on Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:13 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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In post 88, RCEnigma wrote:Hmm, I have reason to believe drewva pulled scum.
This is RCE scum reading DrewVa based on a quote from a different game. RCE based this off of a rule slip only scum would know.In post 89, RCEnigma wrote:Maybe not scum, but she isn't town.
And then claimed not to have read the rules to begin with. Could be playing coy, but it seems like a tonal slip to me.In post 95, RCEnigma wrote:
I would have had to read the rules to know that.In post 92, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 89, RCEnigma wrote:Maybe not scum, but she isn't town.*They say in a game confirmed to not have Multiball and hinted on page 1 to possibly have 5 scum.*
Now, unless this is based on a discussion about the ruleslip in question, RCEnigma abandons the DrewVa non-town read with little clarification. Please expand on this if you like, but in your ISO I was unable to find good reason for this change in allegiance.In post 371, RCEnigma wrote:I'm not scumreading drewva. I'm semi-content with what I got out of it. I like Bef pushing there even if it was based on miscommunication. They are both just town here Imo.
This is RCEnigma accusing me of what I identified above as a very similar series of actions. Either he is a hypocrite or is scum himself.In post 380, RCEnigma wrote:No it's a combination of the omgus read, presenting scumreads on myself and bef as serious reads then backing off when Bef gained support (or at least townreads), and then reverting back to "none of that is serious I'm still RVSing".
It all wreaks of cautious scum and I'm calling back on it.
I have already explained why I changed views on BEF (me not liking the semantic approach but also finding it too specific to be fake). Would you mind going into detail as to why you read me as scum other than your own "omgus" argument against me?
And then this statement basically agrees with all of my own points about who I have decided to vote for so far.In post 667, RCEnigma wrote:
I agree with this actually. I know I'm going to get scumread for saying we should use day 1 as a test day. I think in regards to how we want to handle votes/votecounts it should be a test day.In post 664, Nero Cain wrote:I had wanted to talk about something that I felt was semi-important but I forgot earlier so here we go.
I don't think Alonzo is necessarily scummy for wanting to end the day @ p30. Like, he seems genuine that he's just behind but the stopping the thread a little prematurely is nearsighted.
I think artificially extending the day beyond useful discussion is p anti-town but as long as it's fruitful it's not much of a big deal. I think the strength of this mechanic is that we can vote the scum without them knowing we are voting them...unless we say so. The only minor drawback is we can't really coordinate a lynch. I could do unofficial vote counts if we wanted to do them or we could just vote whomever in our threads and just see how that works.
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RCEnigma (1) -- The Last KnightIn post 886, DrewVa wrote:
Probably easier this way to only list the wagons that have votes on them.
If I missed any votes feel free to update.
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Emperors New Groove (1) -- DrewVa
Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (1) -- RCEnigma
Not Voting: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, Profii, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Elsa Jay, Gamma Emerald, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Karmeleon, Ramcius, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Emperors New Groove, Nero Cain-
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RCEnigma (1) -- The Last Knight
Emperors New Groove (1) -- DrewVa
Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (1) -- RCEnigma
Ramcius (1) -- Karmeleon
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Not Voting: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, Profii, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Elsa Jay, Gamma Emerald, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Ramcius, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Nero Cain-
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I think you should speak for yourself here and add your own vote. Otherwise, wait for Ramcius to speak up again.In post 895, Elsa Jay wrote:
I'm just gonna take a shot in the dark and say Ramcius has his vote on me, so add that to the counter.In post 840, Ramcius wrote:
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Since we have Alonzo already voting to end the day and flippyNips threatening to do the same, it seems we are pretty close to ending this early. So unless you want the scum to be able to coordinate a vote, I think it would behoove us to collaborate and find a decent person to lynch, and soon.- Emperor flippyNips
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(I'll go find Ramcius's vote then)Last edited by Boonskiies on Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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I don't think this is a hard vote on Elsa, IMHO. Just a threat at best.In post 851, Ramcius wrote:Lynching random person and having short D1 is bad
Lynching you will give info, you have quite a bit of interactions and it will reduce pool for scum to hide-
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In post 900, The Last Knight wrote:Since we have Alonzo already voting to end the day and flippyNips threatening to do the same, it seems we are pretty close to ending this early. So unless you want the scum to be able to coordinate a vote, I think it would behoove us to collaborate and find a decent person to lynch, and soon.
(I'll go find Ramcius's vote then)
Something I forgot to mention in this explanation was this: if the alignment of either of the two remaining day reps ends up being scum, then they have a much bigger benefit than any town right now by ending the day while everyone still has one vote apiece. If we town can get someone to agree on, then we can at least outnumber the scum.In post 901, Elsa Jay wrote:Because it's not important to reveal that yet. I'll keep the benefit that the mod gave us all to use, thank you very much.
DrewVa mentioned that we need 12/23 to get a lynch, but that's not actually true. Because we have secret voting, the lynch just goes to whoever has the most votes, even if it is as few as 5 - or 2 - votes.-
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I was just c+p a template. Not trying to make claims about that. Fair point though. Feel free to edit and post in the future. I'll be more aware of it from now on.In post 904, Xtoxm wrote:Elsa is my first townread
Page 37. Not bad
@knight, pls change not voting category to unknown. You are putting fake claims in everyone's mouth. Thanx.-
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I ISO'd Ramcius to see and then reread it in context. But he has not. Consented to voting in any official way. Everyone else has acknowledged the list or given a recognized form of voting. I honestly don't know why you're so upset about me being less willing to put a lynch vote on you. Unless you want to be lynched, my queen?-
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Okay. But why don't you just post it? I'm just doing it to keep track for the rest of us townies. This is helpful for anyone who has decided to be open with their vote. Anyone at all, really. Don't get mad at me if you have also decided not add to the list.
Frankly, I found only that Ramcius wanted you dead but never felt that he wanted to vote for you.-
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In post 931, Boonskiies wrote:
Y’all see how I’m doing the Day Rep vote counts, right? That working for everyone?
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RCEnigma (1) -- The Last KnightIn post 928, Elsa Jay wrote:*sighs in Japanese*
Hopefully someone elsa cones along tonight and explains it to you better. I'm going to sleep.
By the way, since you really want to know where my vote is? You just got it.
Emperors New Groove (1) -- DrewVa
Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (2) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay
Ramcius (1) -- Karmeleon
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, Profii, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Gamma Emerald, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Ramcius, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Nero Cain-
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I had similar thoughts on page 1. Funny coincidence that it was the same person.In post 951, DrewVa wrote:
That’s why we’re not in any hurry to end the day. We’re obviously not settled on this vote.In post 887, The Last Knight wrote:Why do you want to vote ENG? (ironic, I know, since I RVS'd them)
DVa can explain it more.
Are you referring to Ramcius wanting Elsa dead? I don't think that means either of them is scum. I don't think Elsa is a good scum read anyway. I need to get a better read on Ramcius right now. Could go either way.In post 955, DrewVa wrote:In post 924, The Last Knight wrote:Okay. But why don't you just post it? I'm just doing it to keep track for the rest of us townies. This is helpful for anyone who has decided to be open with their vote. Anyone at all, really. Don't get mad at me if you have also decided not add to the list.
Frankly, I found only that Ramcius wanted you dead but never felt that he wanted to vote for you.In post 925, The Last Knight wrote:Not today, anyway.- Emperor flippyNips
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In post 963, Ramcius wrote:Karmeleon, are you trying get 2 MLs for your team? Get me first, then Elsa after my townflip?
I stopped, because I felt Elsa might be really bad town, I don't think scum would admit to not try to progress game and on top hindering our progress with 2 "for fun" scumreads on BEF and Alonso.
You ignoring whole that part, but pointing out pointless afterfight banter as a something susp is laughable
I still want Elsa dead, just to be sure, but scum lynch > PL.
VOTE: KarmeleonIn post 985, profii wrote: I think that's your lot - If I missed anyone I blame the alt slippers :p
reflecting back on that - voting TLK
RCEnigma (1) -- The Last Knight
Emperors New Groove (1) -- DrewVa
Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Gamma Emerald, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Nero Cain-
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In post 1017, DrewVa wrote:In post 1005, Elsa Jay wrote:My reasoning is Ramcius fits the category of "asshole townie" while TLK is just scummy. Just reading his responses scream "I hate this shit town why am I apart of it". Still could be scum, but it's more lilely for TLK to flip scum here.
Alright, I’ll switch our vote to TLK then.
VOTE: TLK
I still much prefer Ram. :/
RCEnigma (1) -- The Last Knight
Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (5) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon, DrewVA
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Gamma Emerald, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Nero Cain-
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RCEnigma (1) -- The Last Knight
Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Ramcius (2) -- DrewVa, Gamma Emerald
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Nero Cain-
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In post 1026, DrewVa wrote:
Convince the people on your wagon to vote Ram instead and I’ll switch.In post 1024, The Last Knight wrote:C'mon guys, you don't want to vote to lynch me... Not if you're town anyway. Scum can vote for me all they want. Careful of that hammer!
But I will continue to update this unofficial VC as the votes come in. And others should feel free to do so, if they so desire.
I just want to point out that you're talking to the person who told me to put you on the counterwagon, while I have said nothing about you other than defending your own right to a public vote.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?[smallcaps][/smallcaps]p=10617941#p10617941]post 1050[/url], Ramcius wrote:
Nah, keep it, i like to see who comes along on my wagonIn post 1049, DrewVa wrote:
I can drive poor Boon to drink by once again, changing my vote?In post 1047, Ramcius wrote:
He already voted to end day, so he have no more powerIn post 1046, DrewVa wrote:
Okay, something we actually do agree on.In post 1045, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo is a troll, i stopped pay attention to him long ago
Him having the power to end the day, is concerning though.
What’s you read on TLK?
Disliked before, dislike even more now as i'm becoming his counterwagon
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I was talking to Ramcius there. I was just quoting you so that Ram knew that you were the one to tell me to counterwagon him.In post 1083, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Link me?In post 1079, The Last Knight wrote:In post 1026, DrewVa wrote:
Convince the people on your wagon to vote Ram instead and I’ll switch.In post 1024, The Last Knight wrote:C'mon guys, you don't want to vote to lynch me... Not if you're town anyway. Scum can vote for me all they want. Careful of that hammer!
But I will continue to update this unofficial VC as the votes come in. And others should feel free to do so, if they so desire.
I just want to point out that you're talking to the person who told me to put you on the counterwagon, while I have said nothing about you other than defending your own right to a public vote.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?[smallcaps][/smallcaps]p=10617941#p10617941]post 1050[/url], Ramcius wrote:
Nah, keep it, i like to see who comes along on my wagonIn post 1049, DrewVa wrote:
I can drive poor Boon to drink by once again, changing my vote?In post 1047, Ramcius wrote:
He already voted to end day, so he have no more powerIn post 1046, DrewVa wrote:
Okay, something we actually do agree on.In post 1045, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo is a troll, i stopped pay attention to him long ago
Him having the power to end the day, is concerning though.
What’s you read on TLK?
Disliked before,dislike even more now as i'm becoming his counterwagon
Have any other reason to read me scum?
I don’t recall Ram sr us, I do recall Alonzo doing that though.
Anyway, I just saw Boon’s post about you being a forum mafia newb, so that makes me less want to vote you but good catch.
Your scum equity didn’t increase just by being Ram’s counterwagon, so it makes no sense for that to affect his read on you. Voting you, maybe but it shouldn’t affect his read at all.
Thanks, feeling even better about my vote now.
But I would still like to see that link. Thanks.
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Oh, I didn't mean 3P literally. I don't think multiball is a thing in this game. There were talks about it in the first 10 pages or so.What makes you think he’s a 3P as opposed to scum?
I just meant, it felt like Ramcius was scum reading me off of something you, DrewVa, told me to do. So maybe the correct term for what Ramcius is doing would be scapegoating.-
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Here, Ramcius says he doesn't like when people jump to conclusions on what they "maybe said [sic]."In post 444, Ramcius wrote:
I don't like how he jumped to conclusion from purely speculations on what scum might had and what they might talked.In post 426, DrewVa wrote:
What part don’t you like - the townread on us, or you dislike this post?In post 422, Ramcius wrote:
i don't like this. Assumption on scum having pre game chat and votes in main thread do nothing, so why scum wouldn't make them in RVS stage?In post 415, Thanos wrote:
From a scum POV, not voting in the main thread is probably an important mechanic they would've discussed if they had pre-game chat. This looks like a townslip, DrewVa is likely town.In post 30, DrewVa wrote:VOTE: Emperors New Groove
But it is mentioned in the setup, so the read should be more nuanced, like could they tell, if we made the “townslip” by play or is the townread solely based on just mechanics?
At this point, Ramcius starts off by saying that Cheeky Dancer may as well ask him directly to clarify his own playstyle. This doesn't make much sense to me since one should always just claim town, which Ramcius eventually contradicts by the end of this exchange, but still only in what seems to me to be an attempt to play devil's advocate to Cheeky.In post 680, Ramcius wrote:
I'm not bound to anything, especially, when this isn't my towngame.In post 678, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Why do one thing per post when I can do many?
Here is my problem - I scumread you based on an ISO skim, I would say it's a tonal thing but even that's a bit of a reach for a description. Since I'm not familiar with you, wouldn't it make sense to ask others what they think? If I ask you, you're bound to tell me this is your towngame regardless of alignment. BUT I guess we could exchange reads instead.
Who are your top two scumreads/townreads?
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As for reads, i really dislike what Elsa is doing, i can't think for second one that i feel strong to be scum, Last Knight maybe? I remember having strange feeling about him
Townreads - RCE, i liked his answer about antitown thing and BEF, don't think scum would be so opportunistic
Now Ramcius contradicts himself by asking someone else to read Elsa, rather than ask Elsa himself, which is what he just told to do (shown above).In post 793, Ramcius wrote:
what is your read on Elsa?In post 770, RCEnigma wrote:Tlk hasn't been back and is my only strong scumread. The bunch of slots dicking around and then scumreading the other slots dicking around for dicking around is annoying but nai for now.
Elsa's get Bef lynched schtick is already old. I encourage slots to continue scumreading me without engaging me or asking my views, specifically my reasoning for townreading BEF.
The exceptions are Nero who has engaged me in a way that I find kind of townie, and cheeky who hasn't expressed a scumread on me, though I feel she is trending that way. She's at least trying to get her scumreads views of the game.
Other townie slots:
I like McQueen, Alonzo, warming up to Almost Chara, Nev is probably spewed town like I said before, and Bef is town.
Liked Ramcius for town early but that dropped some pages agk for reasons I can't recall at the moment but I'll iso to figure it out later.
Now, after asking someone to give a read on Elsa, Ramcius gets aggressive when they don't have the same opinion and leaves an ominous threat in retaliation.In post 802, Ramcius wrote:
So Elsa hindering our progress with her schticks isn't an issue to you, dully notedIn post 801, RCEnigma wrote:I don't have a read on Elsa. I don't know their style and I have only been in one game where they replaced into an IC role. Though the game was pretty much over.
And finally, Ramcius labels himself as an exception to a rule while he contracts himself on this very point in the quotes I've listed above. Meanwhile, he is blatantly PL me based on DrewVa's post (I went into further detail about this in a past post if anyone wants to iso me and find it).In post 1031, Ramcius wrote:
Pile me under exception, I know better than even remotely try PL as a scumIn post 1025, DrewVa wrote:
Well, I’ve heard townies say the former, more than the latter and the converse, for scum. There are obviously always exceptions but I think it holds in general.In post 1015, davesaz wrote:
Leaving aside who xslot is in relationship to the saying, how is one different than the other?In post 976, DrewVa wrote: Saying, Xslot can die can be townie. OTOH, saying I want Xslot dead, gives me the heebie jeebies.
I can anticipate an answer but would like to hear what you think.
I've been pretty interested in Ramcius lately and the hypocrisy that he displays with aplomb. So I think I'll change my vote to him.-
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Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Ramcius (3) -- DrewVa, Gamma Emerald, The Last Knight
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Nero Cain-
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I've played bits of mafia in person with friends but not as often as I'd like. I've been playing some Secret Hitler lately and that's one I like because of the extra effects that occur after a vote has been made.In post 1101, DrewVa wrote:In post 1099, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 150, DrewVa wrote:
Oh, I didn’t know he’s a newb at forum mafia. @The Last Knight, what KIND of mafia have you played before and how is forum mafia different for you?In post 37, Boonskiies wrote:In post 36, The Last Knight wrote:/in dis shitFeel free to give this guy a lot of crap in game. He’s my noob friend. (He’s pretty good at mafia, just never played forum mafia.In post 151, Elsa Jay wrote:Pretty sure you gotta ask that in the actual thread, DrewVa, lol.
Thanks.
Mostly, I play this fast paced mafia that Boonskiies made up that is with only 3 or 4 players. It's nice because you can play a lot of games really fast but it forms bad habits, like claiming scum, because the roles are all on equal footing (e.g. scum doesn't know if there are any other scum on their team). It's similar to this game actually because there is a pool of roles that can be in the game but never all the roles at once.
Probably my favorite mafia-like game is Bang! because I love card games and Bang! takes the mafia rules while using the card resource really well. It forces people to claim one way or the other but it just also requires everyone to be pretty experienced and know what they're doing. The characters having special abilities is cool too because they can be better or worse for you depending on which role you get.
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In post 1121, Nero Cain wrote:My vote is currently sitting on RCE but I'd be ok with any of the slots I listed earlier. Of those Ram is the only one with a wagon on him.
Based on context, I can't tell if you want to vote RCE still, want to vote Ram, or are purposely being vague. But if you want me to add you to the unofficial VC, I can do that for you. I just don't want to misrepresent your vote.In post 1125, Nero Cain wrote:already changed my vote dear. No point in vanity voting RCE and I guess Ram's scumflip makes RCE a green pm.-
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The contradiction I'm pointing out is this: you told someone to up front ask you if they have a problem with you and then proceeded to ask someone what they thought of someone else. Asking someone how they read someone else is just how the game is played. But if telling someone not to ask others about oneself isn't weird enough, going back on that directive by doing exactly that is pretty suspect.In post 1127, Ramcius wrote:Yes, i don't like, when people make conclusion purely from speculations without any basis, why that's wrong?
What i contradict? That my playstyle wasn't my usual town at that time? I guess you know better my townplay than I
Cheeky wasn't talking to me, so i had to ask. But i was speaking with Elsa way before that, how that's a contradiction?
I don't even comment on RCE quote
I have no clue what are you talking, only PL i wanted was Elsa, not you, i never expressed intend to vote you, what PL we even talking? Also, have you seen me trying PL someone as a scum to say it was a lie?
Only thing that i said was that i dislike how people suddenly got interested in me, when your wagon grew, i. e. i'm becoming your counterwagon
And this just seems desperate to me.In post 1128, Ramcius wrote:
And what my townflip gives you?In post 1125, Nero Cain wrote:already changed my vote dear. No point in vanity voting RCE and I guess Ram's scumflip makes RCE a green pm.-
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Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Ramcius (4) -- DrewVa, Gamma Emerald, The Last Knight, Nero Cain
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo-
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Is this a vote for Gamma, or are you trying to get Ramcius to vote Gamma?In post 1037, Alonzo wrote:
Vote Gamma!In post 1034, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You know I’m hit-or-miss at reading you anywayIn post 1030, Ramcius wrote:That's an interesting vote, coming from someone, who played quite a few games with me. Want to share reason for it?
As for why, I just don’t like the way you’re pushing things, I get the sense you have an agenda-
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Something_Smart (1) -- Something_SmartIn post 1161, Nev and Max wrote:
Ours is on BEF.In post 896, The Last Knight wrote:RCEnigma (1) -- The Last Knight
Emperors New Groove (1) -- DrewVa
Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (1) -- RCEnigma
Ramcius (1) -- Karmeleon
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
BrightEyedFish (1) -- Nev and Max
Not Voting: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, Profii, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Elsa Jay, Gamma Emerald, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Ramcius, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Nero Cain
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Ramcius (4) -- DrewVa, Gamma Emerald, The Last Knight, Nero Cain
BrightEyedFish (1) -- Nev and Max
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo-
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By posting the VC, I'm just trying to do something that I believe is helpful for the town. I've gone into more detail on my thoughts wrt publicly announcing our votes, but I just think a vague wagon is healthy in order to keep the scum from having a better chance of getting the lynch. I don't think all votes should be public though and that is why I have been doing my best to add only those to the list who seem to acknowledge and consent to it.-
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Something_Smart (1) -- Something_SmartIn post 1188, Theta Alpine wrote:going to pop in and note that i also do not get the ram scum reads
and also that i am currently voting rcenigma
i am also going to take a page from mod is mafia and note that if we do vote counts ourselves we need to have multiple people doing it
based on that game it was extremely easy to town-read players for an action that is actually not alignment indicative
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove
Ramcius (4) -- DrewVa, Gamma Emerald, The Last Knight, Nero Cain
BrightEyedFish (1) -- Nev and Max
RCEnigma (1) -- Theta Alpine
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo-
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I took a template and copied it, to be honest, and your name was right there at the top. I did think about taking your vote off but it also seemed like an obvious enough joke. I figured I could leave it there and change it later if/when you decided to go public. Just a sillier unknown.In post 1282, Something_Smart wrote:TLK. I have a question. I made that self-vote very early on as self-admittedly half a joke egopost and the other half a reaction test. I also said that I understand that's not how real votes were placed. When you put your votecounts together, why did you not even ask if I had actually voted myself in my confessional before writing my vote there?
I want to address the last sentence specifically though, because I don't think these VC are necessarily confessional votes. But if someone did vote here and was contradicted later, it gives some nice info on D2.-
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But also this. I may be the only one keeping track of the VC, but anyone can do it. I just try to notice when someone throws in a vote, especially when the VC is quoted. So I just update it. You can change your stance at any time, just like in your confessional.In post 1292, Xtoxm wrote:
I'm going to have to wade in here. If your clear use of vote tags should be disregarded as a joke, at what point do you draw the line between assuming a vote is a joke and a vote is real? The most sensible course of action is to take literal votes at face value, and you told us that you're voting yourself. If you don't want that in the artificial VC, go ahead and change it.In post 1282, Something_Smart wrote:TLK. I have a question. I made that self-vote very early on as self-admittedly half a joke egopost and the other half a reaction test. I also said that I understand that's not how real votes were placed. When you put your votecounts together, why did you not even ask if I had actually voted myself in my confessional before writing my vote there?-
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Spoiler:
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (2) -- Emperors New Groove, DrewVa
Ramcius (3) -- Gamma Emerald, The Last Knight, Nero Cain
BrightEyedFish (1) -- Nev and Max
RCEnigma (1) -- Theta Alpine
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Something_Smart-
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No problem. I appreciate you saying so. That second sentence refers to the fact that this is my first forum mafia game. But I assure you all that I am as verbose and awkward irl, ask BoonskiiesIn post 1326, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
Upon an ISO, I also tr him. But because of his vc tracking and interactions from him look like sorting.In post 1124, Almost Chara wrote:i'm also townreading TLK here. especially with the context of his mafia experience.
~Chara
@TLK thanks for tracking the vc btw. It's become frustrating to solve without frequent updates, because I want to work off vca too.
What does the 2nd sentence mean though?
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Emperor's New Groove: other than my page 1 RVS, I have almost no opinion on ENG so far. They don't even have 10 posts so I can't gleen much at the moment. I vaguely recall them maybe hydra slipping? But other than that there isn't enough information. Null vote.In post 1336, Cheeky Dancer wrote:@TLK you're in the bay area too? Oh man, small world.
What do you think of ENG , almost chara, dave, or alonzo?
Almost Chara: another hydra, but the slips are almost apart of the gimmick here. I think this pairing says a lot of funny shit. Early on they made a lot of claims about reading people and "nearly solving the game" but without much evidence. Not sure what this was about but it feels like bait. No hard claims though either, so I just see it as Almost Chara keeping their vote hidden. But I do like how this hydra addressed BEF's semantic posts with a pragmatic approach because that is how I wanted to respond to BEF. I like them but the hesitant nature gives them a scum lean for me. Perhaps with more evidence backing their claims in the future, I will have a better idea of how they work.
Davesaz: not too many posts but one of my best town reads so far. Not afraid to post opinions, willing to give evidence when asked, calls people out on bs. Very much to the point. He has been helpful in a lot of ways but also doesn't seem to pander to anyone. Dave is all business and that reads town to me.
Alonzo: probably my favorite posts to read tbh. Trolls a lot but he just makes me laugh. I don't mind him voting to end the day early either. He said he would end by the end of page 30 and then followed through, so that reads well. It agrees with my thinking on getting a more likely scum lynch because then town won't spread the vote too thin by waiting too long. The Gamma pushing was a bit over the top and some of the bits about who was the better looking fish was anti-town, but only because it was distracting from the point (basically, more trolling but I didn't find it hilarious this time). Overall, townlean but mostly null.
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In post 1201, Alonzo wrote:
I get high knowing my vote is on Gamma.In post 1198, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Yeah it is. It’s where you go to quit things that are bad for you.In post 1197, Alonzo wrote:Rehab is for quitters.
Don't know how I missed this but here you go.
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (2) -- Emperors New Groove, DrewVa
Ramcius (3) -- Gamma Emerald, The Last Knight, Nero Cain
BrightEyedFish (1) -- Nev and Max
RCEnigma (1) -- Theta Alpine
Gamma Emerald (1) -- Alonzo
Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Emperor FlippyNips, Something_Smart