BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[Venus and Mars]

Fyi Xtoxm, my best friend just died, so I’m way too numb to be really into to mafia rn. I will try my best regardless.

~Mars

[Venus and Mars]

Shiro is aware the game began right? Like even if nancy is taking a break the slot should not be silent?

-K

Have you forgotten MG already? Fyi, I think you might be town but this is bad reasoning on your part.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

a presumably policy vote on TSE

That was actually my RVS. I kinda know the guy so I wanted some sort of reaction from him. I switched after nothing really happened with him.

followed by a vote on someone who's not here

Ye, what's wrong with voting people who havent even posted yet? I like to sort people after everyone has atleast posted a few times.

It’s only problematic if it’s a serious vote because unless you have actual meta on a player that’s AI, it’s probably NAI. However, I nai read that vote.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah we understand Nancy, have you talked with Shiro to carry for a while?

-K

Yeah, he promised he would but that’s on Shiro time . . . so . . .

[Venus and Mars]

It's D1 page 10 ffs. Fine.

Tonally, I'm comfortable enough with Fonz and dave to properly pin them as town. I'll be able to actually sort Titus when she really gets into it. I haven't played with the rest of you (that I can recall?) so that won't come as swiftly.

It should've been pretty clear that I was full of shit when I cited you, Auro, as the champion for my sheep vote when you hopped not 5 posts later. But hey, ass out of you and me for assuming, right?

I'm not comfortable with letting Vecna live. Who knows what that virus actually does, hm? "It makes you a miller" smells like bullshit to me. Boon doesn't throw millers all over the place for the lulz. There's a reason for it, which has been "hinted" to Vecna, but it seems like he knows more about it than he's letting on. But that's just a hunch. We'll see where it goes.

Auro, you seem like one of those types where townies better town post or else!!1! And I'm sorry but I don't have the time, energy, or give a fuck to wall until a sufficient amount of people think I town slipped. Did that last game and Nancy fucking bombed me for it.

Never again.

This is my one and only long post.

I bombed you because you kept insisting on derailing my questioning over Bambi’s unexplained no results thing and you were ironically defending scum in that, so if you don’t want negative consequences, I recommend you don’t do that in the future.

[Venus and Mars]

So far, I like KK, Auro and Nom.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

He has zero base on that. It's just a thing he said. Fonz is fun like that. The Nacho quote was from a game I didn't counterclaim his doc claim until the next day when the cop cleared me and guiltied his partner. I was railing into him pretty hard that phase. To his credit he almost got a newb to side with him.

VOTE: Kakeguri Addicts

Sheeping the og vote on this wag.

I don't have zero base. I have not much base, what with it being page one and all, and don't get me wrong it was a fun vote coming from a place of love.

But after the last BT, plus your behaviour in that dead thread, I absolutely do not believe you want to be town in a game with Titus and Nancy (and TSE, though he wasn't there) if you have the chance to influence things otherwise. So I do think you are more likely than random to have made picks that are scum-only or often scum.

Sorry, bro. Guess you better catch scum early if you're town.

Sorry, bro.

@chk, serious question, why did you decide to play despite Titus and myself playing? Are you no longer pissed off at us? @Fonz, just because he was rooting for RCE, doesn’t necessarily follow he’d automatically select a scum role/flavour.

[Venus and Mars]

@jjh, refresh my memory, what alignment did you roll in RC uPick?

Thanks.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

Cool

Krazy Katz is hard town already

While I think you might be right about KK, nothing specifically in that post exactly screams “hard town” to me. Why couldn’t scum have made that post?

~M

[Venus and Mars]

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

Cool

Krazy Katz is hard town already

While I think you might be right about KK, nothing specifically in that post exactly screams “hard town” to me. Why couldn’t scum have made that post?

~M

Wait, Xtoxm made that post NOT KK. Are you sr Xtoxm, is that the basis for your hardtown read on KK?

~M

[Venus and Mars]

i only sent in one pick, and it was from a time i was scum

Why would you do that? Were you hoping you’d be scum in this game?

~M

[Venus and Mars]

Hello folks

~Shiro

[Venus and Mars]

@Kakeguri: it is strongly my belief that alignment is not randomised prior to role creation, and that someone who wanted to be scum could influence role allocation by picking scum only roles for the Booneytoonz list, or quotes from players from games where they were scum, etc.

Your strong belief is wrong. Undivulged non-randomness is bastard. Alignment is assumed to be randomised.

Upicks are inherently non random.

incorrect; standard procedure is to randomize align before making roles

@Kakeguri: it is strongly my belief that alignment is not randomised prior to role creation, and that someone who wanted to be scum could influence role allocation by picking scum only roles for the Booneytoonz list, or quotes from players from games where they were scum, etc.

Your strong belief is wrong. Undivulged non-randomness is bastard. Alignment is assumed to be randomised.

Upicks are inherently non random.

UPick ROLES are inherently non-random, but this does not include alignment

What happens if someone picks Traitor, Framer, SK as their picks? How can they possibly end up town?

with a little thought above level 1. sk could be vig, etc.
boon certainly got creative my my pick
i didnt get what i was "aiming" for

Interesting, I got the exact role and flavour I wanted, even the specific flavour name.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Bad reasons for votes, excessive reliance on mech talk and doesn’t really appear to be solving.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah we understand Nancy, have you talked with Shiro to carry for a while?

-K

Yeah, he promised he would but that’s on Shiro time . . . so . . .

I will it is just day 1 are never my strong point.

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah we understand Nancy, have you talked with Shiro to carry for a while?

-K

Yeah, he promised he would but that’s on Shiro time . . . so . . .

I will it is just day 1 are never my strong point.

wait is this game shiro the head that's not signing?

-K

Why does Shiro even need to sign a post specifically referring to him?

[Venus and Mars]

Boon actively refused to answer the "Which came first, alignments or roles" type question btw, but implied it could be worked out based on in thread information.

I personaly think alignment came first it would be weird if multiple people send scum roles and hard to balance and role isnt always alignment dependant anywa.

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah we understand Nancy, have you talked with Shiro to carry for a while?

-K

Yeah, he promised he would but that’s on Shiro time . . . so . . .

I will it is just day 1 are never my strong point.

wait is this game shiro the head that's not signing?

-K

Nah I will be signing I just slipped

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

Because at some point I will be doing ctrl+f -- "~Venus" and it helps if ctrl f will find those posts

-K

Well, I sincerely hope that the odds will be forever be in your favour, in that case.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

Because at some point I will be doing ctrl+f -- "~Venus" and it helps if ctrl f will find those posts

-K

I miss miss quote sometime to Shiro and forget every so often but likely you will be safe doing that for me.

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Titus

Why?

~M

[Venus and Mars]

Nancy can you explain why you like me so far?
Didn't I tell you that if I'm looking towny I'm scum?

@Titus: Do you have an individual scumread on me or is it just an association read?

That definitely did cross my mind yeah but your post expressing paranoia on KK, sounded townie to me (also contributing to my KK tl btw). You’re also not being enough of a tryhard to ping scum to me but dw, I’m extremely alert to anything remindng me of CoC2 but so far I don’t think I’m seeing that.

[Venus and Mars]

Because I can simply not engage with you at the level you took it in that game. Never did I mention Titus, specifically, that I can recall. If there is a shit ton of ??????? confusion like there was in that game, I'm more likely to just allow someone else to understand and parse instead of repeating myself ad nauseam like we did there. Blaming me for your shit action in a game you also followed the same persons logic is a hilarious attempt at discrediting me out of the gate.

You’re the one who brought my action in that game into THIS one, not me. I also think it was ridiculous for you to offer that up as a reason for not making more extensive reads, since we both know damn well, that had absolutely no bearing on my reasoning for doing that, so for all I know, you could have mentioned me to possibly discredit my reads. I have no clue, I just think it odd that you brought up my name at all in that specific context.

Wrt to Titus, in that dead thread, you mentioned a 2nd person you had issues with and I just assumed you were referring to Titus. Was I incorrect to have assumed that?

[Venus and Mars]

For the record, that paranoia post was a meme, and not a serious stance of mine.

Time to re-evaluate KK in that case.

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Titus

Why?

~M

The post where she called me/auro/chkflip as a potential scum team.

But why are you assuming that necessarily comes from scum over town? Titus wrongly sr me and A50 of being scum in the Shakespeare Boon game but she was just wrong in that and not scum.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

How is my stating paranoia of KK related to KK's alignment?
Like if you didn't townread KK because "Auro's awesome at mafia and if he's paranoid of KK there must be a reason" it would make sense, but the opposite is weird.

Because you’re not awesome at correctly reading Krazy, like he was flaming obvtown in HP but you didn’t want him in the coalition. But no. I’m tl them regardless of your Krazy read.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

Unless "Auro sucks at mafia and if he's paranoid of KK then KK is probably town" but then I would be sad

You know for obvious reasons, I don’t think you’re bad at mafia but for some reason, you’re not great at reading Krazy. Am I allowed to bring up TM here or no?

[Venus and Mars]

Unless "Auro sucks at mafia and if he's paranoid of KK then KK is probably town" but then I would be sad

You know for obvious reasons, I don’t think you’re bad at mafia but for some reason, you’re not great at reading Krazy. Am I allowed to bring up TM here or no?

Last game just ended.

Alright, well Auro was extremely confident he was town in that but I realize now that Oka’s point about town!Krazy having decent reads was more or less relatively proven true by both that game and the last Boon one.

[Venus and Mars]

Unless "Auro sucks at mafia and if he's paranoid of KK then KK is probably town" but then I would be sad

You know for obvious reasons, I don’t think you’re bad at mafia but for some reason, you’re not great at reading Krazy. Am I allowed to bring up TM here or no?

Last game just ended.

Alright, well Auro was extremely confident he was town in that but I realize now that Oka’s point about town!Krazy having decent reads was more or less relatively proven true by both that game and the last Boon one.

Auro did smoke his Black Flag game and caught all the scum in that and probably deserves some kind of scummie for that.

[Venus and Mars]

Lol hold on did VM just TMI all 3 of me / chk and auro town?

VOTE: Venus and Mars

???

I haven’t TMI’d anyone and the only one I’m tl is Auro, so I don’t even know how tf you’re even coming up with that.

So you had better explain exactly wtf you’re referring to here.

[Venus and Mars]

Lol hold on did VM just TMI all 3 of me / chk and auro town?

VOTE: Venus and Mars

...what? How?

My point, exactly.

Their vote on us is even worse than their vote on Titus, if possible.

[Venus and Mars]

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

Cool

Krazy Katz is hard town already

While I think you might be right about KK, nothing specifically in that post exactly screams “hard town” to me. Why couldn’t scum have made that post?

~M

Wait, Xtoxm made that post NOT KK. Are you sr Xtoxm, is that the basis for your hardtown read on KK?

~M

Lmao it took like 300 posts but someone still did the thing even though I fully explained some shit later

I suggest you look at the post immediately after that where I vote xtoxm, and my later post where I explain that I quoted xtoxm by accident and voted because it made for rvs content due to the possibility of somebody questioning wtf was going on with my reasoning there

Huh didn't actually mean to quote that but I guess it looks like it works

Sure
VOTE: Xtoxm

Found it, What is your read on Chronus? Bad town or scum?

~M

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Titus

Why?

~M

The post where she called me/auro/chkflip as a potential scum team.

But why are you assuming that necessarily comes from scum over town?

Titus wrongly sr me and A50 of being scum in the Shakespeare Boon game but she was just wrong in that and not scum.

~M

What makes you think she’s wrongly scum reading us here?

I have no clue whether or not she’s incorrectly reading you here or not but how tf you got TMI from that post, is mind blowing.

My point is that anyone who’s ever played with Titus, wouldn’t necessarily sr her for that and she’s done nothing so far in THIS game to scumping me.

[Venus and Mars]

Your whole PoV in that line of reasoning is arguing why Titus is town due to how she correctly/incorrectly identifies people’s roles lol?

I’m saying that’s not scum indicative for her.

[Venus and Mars]

When’s that ever a town angle especially when you have no particular read on me and chkflip

I was asking WHY you sr her for that as opposed to assuming she’s wrong town, it’s not exactly rocket science.

[Venus and Mars]

Lol hold on did VM just TMI all 3 of me / chk and auro town?

VOTE: Venus and Mars

???

I haven’t TMI’d anyone and the only one I’m tl is Auro, so I don’t even know how tf you’re even coming up with that.

So you had better explain exactly wtf you’re referring to here.

Wait you're not townreading me?

You haven’t posted anything to scumping me so for right now, I’m leaning town on you.

[Venus and Mars]

Your whole PoV in that line of reasoning is arguing why Titus is town due to how she correctly/incorrectly identifies people’s roles lol?

I’m saying that’s not scum indicative for her.

?????????????

Anyone who’s played with Titus, wouldn’t see that post as scum indicative but like I said, for you to jump to the conclusion that my question to you was some sort of TMI, is an extremely over the top, suspicious reaction, so no - I don’t tr you for that because that’s exactly the kind of reaching that scum do.

So for right now, I’m not liking either you or Xtoxm. I can also see jjh’s case on Dave. So consider you three, slots I’m not currently tl.

[Venus and Mars]

When’s that ever a town angle especially when you have no particular read on me and chkflip

I was asking WHY you sr her for that as opposed to assuming she’s wrong town, it’s not exactly rocket science.

I never said I scum read her for that. I said it’s the post, I never implied it’s because of the accuracy of it.

You said I scum read her for that and then argued from the scum PoV of “her having wrong reads is not scummy”

How about you explain this mess cuz this looks really bad for you right now.

You’re the ONLY one who seems to think that. Which is why I’m asking if you’re just bad town or scum here? I already explained my post and it’s scummy for you to just ignore that.

[Venus and Mars]

When’s that ever a town angle especially when you have no particular read on me and chkflip

I was asking WHY you sr her for that as opposed to assuming she’s wrong town, it’s not exactly rocket science.

@Chronus

Explain why I shouldn’t switch my Xtoxm vote to you? Are you seriously being this dense here?

[Venus and Mars]

I literally explained how she’s world building on faulty, early, nonsensical assumptions that are too easy for a town to have such confidence on.

Except I didn't have extreme confidence?

Exactly, her reaction seems a bit too defensive if she’s actually town here.

[Venus and Mars]

What if it's just Chronos and chkflip and Auro was pocketed?

How was Auro pocketed? I’m not following, is he even tr either of them? *confuzzled*

[Venus and Mars]

You just straw manned my whole reasoning for accusing me and you’re holding a scum read based on it?

Hell nah you got some explaining to do. You dun’ goofed up and you not realizing it is because you’re scum that TMI’d us all town.

A town never defends a slot based on THE ACCURACY OF THEIR READS WITHOUT FLIPS.

You are arguing from a scum mindset and are oblivious to the point I’m making because of course you can’t see it. The difference between you and me is that I’m uninformed and you’re informed.

P-edit: Already explained. I AM NOT SCUM READING TITUS FOR THAT. Read my ISO, I explained why I did.

What part of I’m obviously not scum here and you’re continuing to misrep my posting is scumpinging me, aren’t you registering yet?

[Venus and Mars]

You are the one that argued I was scum reading her for that. I never did.

I said it’s “the post where...” not why. You just planted a why, wanted me to enter your frame, which I did not, I explained what my frame was and you’re calling me scum for not arguing from your frame.

For real?

I simply asked you why you just didn’t assume Titus was wrong town for that post as opposed to scum and for that you accuse me of TMI and sr me? Of course, I interpret your reaction to that as over the top scummy. What I’m still trying to ascertain if you’re just bad town or actual scum here, because I have wrongly sr woat town before and you still could be that.

[Venus and Mars]

You just straw manned my whole reasoning for accusing me and you’re holding a scum read based on it?

Hell nah you got some explaining to do. You dun’ goofed up and you not realizing it is because you’re scum that TMI’d us all town.

A town never defends a slot based on THE ACCURACY OF THEIR READS WITHOUT FLIPS.

You are arguing from a scum mindset

and are oblivious to the point I’m making because of course you can’t see it. The difference between you and me is that I’m uninformed and you’re informed.

P-edit: Already explained. I AM NOT SCUM READING TITUS FOR THAT. Read my ISO, I explained why I did.

What part of I’m obviously not scum here and you’re continuing to misrep my posting is scumpinging me, aren’t you registering yet?

I’m not misreping anything, you’re the one that accused me of claiming something I never have.

You are wrongly accusing me of “arguing from a scum mindset”, which would be some fantastical mental gymnastics, since I’m town here.

[Venus and Mars]

She’s still not getting it lmfaoooooooo

Best part is jjh is not getting it still because they’re both scum most likely.

Jfc do I have to get on PC to shine the fucking sun in people’s eyes?

Yep, he’s probably correct: woat town.

[Venus and Mars]

@Chronus, if you can kindly take your head out of your ass briefly and tell me your Xtoxm read, that would be swell. Thanks.

[Venus and Mars]

Why are you deflecting? You realised what asinine point you’ve made?

In the morning I’ll wake up and have a timeline of events and a slip case because certain people aren’t seeing it which is just mind boggling.

Why do want me to be scum? Some reason you’re forcing this? I’m not, so are you ever planning to answer my question or not?

[Venus and Mars]

Why are you deflecting? You realised what asinine point you’ve made?

In the morning I’ll wake up and have a timeline of events and a slip case because certain people aren’t seeing it which is just mind boggling.

Why do want me to be scum? Some reason you’re forcing this? I’m not, so are you ever planning to answer my question or not?

If you’re refusing to talk about anyone else in the game, then I’ll just ignore you until a building literally falls on you and you buy a clue, fair?

[Venus and Mars]

Why are you deflecting? You realised what asinine point you’ve made?

In the morning I’ll wake up and have a timeline of events and a slip case because certain people aren’t seeing it which is just mind boggling.

Why do want me to be scum? Some reason you’re forcing this? I’m not, so are you ever planning to answer my question or not?

If you’re refusing to talk about anyone else in the game, then I’ll just ignore you until a building literally falls on you and you buy a clue, fair?

Spoiler:

or should I really just say, “buy a vowel”?

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Bad reasons for votes, excessive reliance on mech talk and doesn’t really appear to be solving.

~M

by which you mean vote singular since i only made one real vote
we have enough history that you should know excessive mech is my M.O., so scumreading me for it isnt a good look for you

Why should I know this? In what games have we played were you focusing excessively on mech? No, didn’t you vote KK beforehand?

[Venus and Mars]

I don't know about everything here but I do think Chronos is town

-K

I honestly don’t know whether to laugh or cry at her continual misrepping of my posts. Anyway, I honestly don’t know how you fooled me so bad in TM. You played very different there than in both last Boon game and this one.

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Bad reasons for votes, excessive reliance on mech talk and doesn’t really appear to be solving.

~M

by which you mean vote singular since i only made one real vote
we have enough history that you should know excessive mech is my M.O., so scumreading me for it isnt a good look for you

Why should I know this? In what games have we played were you focusing excessively on mech? No, didn’t you vote KK beforehand?

because we played together a lot?
Starcraft 1.
no deadlines.
are the most obvious examples that come to mind

KK vote was an rvs sheep of nom

I know, which is why your mech comment so surprises me, because I don’t recall any of that in either but what’s clear, is you apparently saw it differently.

[Venus and Mars]

Mars, there shouldn't be any reason you're already defaulting to the many ways of calling someone a shitty mafia player, but here we are. You've cycled Titus into "wrong town" but not Chronos. Why? They could both be "wrong town" from your perspective but, instead of saying that, you're automatically insulting them. This was my major problem with you as a player. There's literally no reason to fucking insult someone because their perspective isn't your perspective. BAD TOWN WOAT EAT ROPE. Go fuck yourself. It's disgusting and you need to fix it.

Thanks no thanks for the lecture.

And Chronus continues to persist in both misrepping me and incorrectly accusing me of coming from a scum mindset, eventhough I’m keep debunking her ridiculous reasoning. Sorry not sorry, not apologizing for that ever.

[Venus and Mars]

Chkflip, no reason to tell people to go fuck themselves.

VOTE: chkflip

Oh? I thought he was gratuitously implying that I was doing that to Chronus but his attitude here, is definitely toxic in any case.

[Venus and Mars]

Oh God we're going to get into another of those arguments about which specific escalation between "Your reads are wrong" and "I wish actual rl suffering on you and your loved ones" was the one that actually crossed the line. I'mma tap out for 24hrs for the sake of my mental health as I find these things deeply uncomfortable. Hopefully something happens to allow me to get a firmer read on the game on my return.

Hopefully, that isn’t happening here. A50 ironically did get his wish but my best friend, not my parents since they were already deceased.

[Venus and Mars]

Chkflip, no reason to tell people to go fuck themselves.

VOTE: chkflip

why is it scum indicitive?

I have to agree with this. Chk behaving like an ass is nai, I think but it’s still upsetting that he refuses to let his grudge against me from last game go and yes, I do in at least in part blame A50 for my play last Boon game. He seriously messed with my head in that.

Fyi, @chk, my best friend is dead, so you can stop behaving like an asshole to me. thanks.

[Venus and Mars]

Chkflip, no reason to tell people to go fuck themselves.

VOTE: chkflip

Some people don't understand examples until they're used as one.

Isn't what I said shitty? Being insulting is condescending/rude. Name calling is insulting.

What's the connection?

Oooooohhhhh snaaaaaap.

Don’t assume I won’t fucking report you if you ever pull this shit again, I’m seriously in no mood.

[Venus and Mars]

None of which makes them WOAT or bad town as opposed to wrong town as you've classified your friend. But yeah disregard it. It sucks to look within and realize the words we use matter and we could actually be wrong.

My friend, the dead one? I had better stop talking to you because you’re not fucking worth my getting temp banned. I hope your conscience doesn’t interfere with your sleeping well tonight, is all I will say about it.

[Venus and Mars]

I literally never mentioned that.

You just told someone to “fuck off” who just found out literally just days ago that one of her closest friends died but keep making shitty excuses for that.

[Venus and Mars]

Ngl Chronos fighting with nancy looks town indicative

*Throws hands up*

Did this thread suddenly get written in Greek?

Nope I would have noticed

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

How can you argue on that line of reasoning unless you have all the alignments in mind already?

Because people can have reads already and when they are opposing to someone they will say that their read is wrong.

I do not get your whole reasoning either

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

I still need to catch up but is there any reason you're talking in the name of amrun

Is she in the anonymous hydra or something because I don’t see her name anywhere in the playerlist.

[Venus and Mars]

FYI Amrun works in healthcare and coronavirus means I'm basically in charge of this hydra until further notice.

Oh? For some reason, I thought you were hydraing with Pops.

[Venus and Mars]

townleans
Chronos -- liked the conviction of the "slip" argument even if I haven't decided if I'm convinced by any of it

faint townleans
Davesaz -- liked tone of exactly one post
Conspire [Hydra of ???? and ????] -- Amrun townleaned a little and I don't really see a reason to disagree rn. I will NOTE that only Cosmic head has posted so far. @Cosmic, how are things with your other head?
Vecna -- probably should townlean for claiming the role, but that's not a GREAT reason and I'm very slightly tempted to lynch now anyway just to not deal with that shit the entire game. Even if no cops that could fuck up weak/desperate/etc and make this a lot harder to mech solve if one of the leashed millerize targets dies and then we need a new one

null pool
Titus - little mixed feelings on a few things
Venus and Mars [Nancy Drew 39 + Shiro] -- little too early to commit even though nancy will qq for not having her as town yet
Auro -- literally what I said about nancy except replace "auro"
Xtoxm -- idk yet, wanna lean town but don't know why? reread soon
Chkflip -- not enough yet
TrueSoulEnergy -- I kinda wonder if the banned slot is accidentally scum actually
George Bailey -- I am tempted to townread cause I found some of his posts pretty funny but I know he's pretty funny as scum sadly so I'll need actual solving from this slot to have a good read

Dissonance
Kakeguri Addicts [Mary Saotome + Yumeko] -- not sure how I feel about this slot yet, Amrun townleaned off an early post but I'm not willing to agree to that in my version of the list rn
Jjh927 -- amrun doesn't like, while jjh did try to explicitly pocket me in vengeful ghosts I feel like he's doing so too 'brazenly' here and so I'm disinclined to think he's scum. I do think 100 had an awkward tone but that doesn't change my feelings of the slot overall, will re-evaluate over the weekend maybe


Would lynch / very faint scumleans
nomnomnom -- meta argument was quite shitty, it could be town but if that's the level of surface thought processes nom is gonna give this day I don't mind dumping this slot early. I've dealt with several quite shit meta arguments lately and I've grown quite impatient with them
The Fonz -- underwhelming content, sympathetic with having a hard time getting into the game but not sympathetic enough to not scumlean; usually has more spice by now

Slight scum
BooneyToonzExpert -- no solving or engagement so far, mech posts could easily come from scum deciding how to play into the leashes later when vecna doesn't get lynched

I'm not really thrilled with my PoE, I'm kinda assuming I'm at best 1/3 in the bottom there and it's very likely there's 2+ scum in my nulls right now

anyone who would like to hard sell me on moving one of the nulls out of my nulls gets a cat gif

you know what's weird is when I read this game I feel like I have too many townreads but when I look at any individual slot I'm not actually sure how hard I'm willing to commit to people being town, weird feeling about this game rn

-K

I’m not at all worried because I KNOW you will be having me as one of your top tr sooner than later. If you were reading my posts in greater depth, you already would be.

[Venus and Mars]

Ah, my open gloating was too obvious.
Yes i was in Binary Star.
I was the one who did almost all the posts.
It's okay, back when we were talking about VG on disc a while ago I was

this

close to telling you!
And honestly I felt like I was so obvious, amazing how a little capitalization with identical tone throws people off.

What? Persi was not in that?

[Venus and Mars]

you got upset that i scumread you for being super scummy and exclusively pushing town for the entire game
it just was me and varsoon
signing was uh..not reliable. but he didnt post after d1

Varsoon? *mind blown* I was so sure Persi was in that.

[Venus and Mars]

im lowkey still mad you dodged that cus your slot just

deserved

to be BOP'd by that point
but eh i won

What part of being mech cleared by Dann, were you seriously not getting?

[Venus and Mars]

did you know who jesus L was btw i always wondered that

Nero?

[Venus and Mars]

i have V+M in my lynch pool but im not in a position to sell you on it really
cant offer anything on the others no.

i dont think qualifies for the pic but id still like one :3

Well that would definitely be a mistake.

[Venus and Mars]

I mean I have no read of Nancy yet, now is the time to indicate what struck you one way or the other

-K

You need to read my posts a LOT more carefully, in that case - specifically the ones addressed to YOU.

[Venus and Mars]

dayvig: Venus and Mars

This had better be a fucking joke Auro. You had better cancel that at once or you’re literally gamethrowing.

[Venus and Mars]

k, it was a joke.

Not funny but I literally haven’t seen a real one ever on MS. Everyone will soon know we’re town, just not today.

[Venus and Mars]

Auro's being naughty

Dayspank Auro

-K

+1

[Venus and Mars]

all the fake actions
fake hammers

They were actually useful though.
When I blatantly fake hammered Gobbles, he took the opportunity to try and fake a towny reaction to it - when it should have been obvious that it was fake.
Dong had a townie reaction to the fakehammer.
Esp had a townie reaction to the fakehammer which made me see him town too.

AF fooled me in the last Boon game with that.

[Venus and Mars]

Sure but faking a dayvig on Nancy gets the same reaction every time

I wouldn’t know, I’ve only had fake dayvigges on me as town.

[Venus and Mars]

Did Shiro choose your hydra avi?

-K

Specifically that one, yeah. Why? It was mutually agreed we were V & M from Sailor Moon.

[Venus and Mars]

This makes me more suspicious of the secret hydra

You mean Conspire or Kakeguri? You can't just say "the secret hydra" like there's only one

although I might have honestly lost track of whether Kakeguri is secret or not, need to double check that

-K

I have no idea who Yumeko is, only that it is the exact same players who was in HP.

[Venus and Mars]

mariar should be one of the KA heads
not sure on other

MS.

[Venus and Mars]

...I don't like any of those wagons.

UNVOTE: Titus
VOTE: Vecna

Doubling down on this to turn it into a policy lynch on the cancer spreading 3p D1 bois. I don't know what to fully expect from a Booney game, but secret shenanigans seems too bastard even for the type of an environment that this is supposed to be.

ok that might be very slightly townie for chk although I still don't like the TSE question from earlier so he can just go back to null

-K

Vecna’s posting sounds townie but it sounds like he has some weird compulsive sticky fruit kind of role and sf vendor isn’t usually a townie role.

[Venus and Mars]

Krazy, do you believe Chronos had more conviction in his "Nancy townslipped me, chk, Auro as town" read than his Titus push at that time?

I know I’m obviously not agreeing with any of his? reads. I asked jjh about RC uPick for a reason, because his posting here, reminded me specifically of that game.

[Venus and Mars]

Krazy, do you believe Chronos had more conviction in his "Nancy townslipped me, chk, Auro as town" read than his Titus push at that time?

Dude even the avi is female how are you messing up that pronoun

-K

Oh good then, I got that right.

[Venus and Mars]

Dude even the avi is female how are you messing up that pronoun

I thought Chronos was a male greek god lol

of time. I know my Greek mythology.

[Venus and Mars]

Dude even the avi is female how are you messing up that pronoun

I thought Chronos was a male greek god lol

of time. I know my Greek mythology.

Speaking of. There is a cat in SM, who goes by the name “Luna”, who has a pal (I think) called Artemis and they give birth to a kitten called Diana, which kind of cracked me tf up, because ALL of those are literally names for Diana the Greek Huntress goddess.

[Venus and Mars]

Wasn't he the villain in the Percy Jackson books too?

???

Not familiar with those.

[Venus and Mars]

Blatant misrep,

lawyer

. Try again.

As your appointed lawyer, I suggest you plead the fifth on that one Mr Flip.

Lol hold on did VM just TMI all 3 of me / chk and auro town?

VOTE: Venus and Mars

Actually this isn't as great as as I took it earlier, nancy's question is 'why is omgus ur top scumread' and turning that into a tmi argument is actually kinda bad

-K

Well, considering the fact that I literally explained why I didn’t understand why she assumed that Titus was scum over wrong town, because none of that was scum indicative for Titus and she kept insisting I’m scum for that was kind of whack. And @chk, I actually thought Titus’ reasoning for her reads actually made way more sense to than Cronus’, so I view you lumping the two of them together as apples and oranges

[Venus and Mars]

Shallow work, no intricate hunting, and to go to such great extents to actually post it without a remote spark in her head going “this is too easy, is it really true?” + her making it sound confident is coming from scum more often than town.

A town wouldn’t have even bothered to post such nonsense. Let alone appearing as if they actually believed what they were saying.

Even tho 'omgus' wasn't the argument, nancy did you read this post?

-K

Yeah but my point was, why did she necessarily jump to that conclusion? but maybe she’s never played with Titus before. I thought she was scum for her early actions wrt to voting me as A50’s buddy in Shakespeare Boon game but as we now know, she was town in that.

[Venus and Mars]

Spoiler:

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah I said I still townlean overall by a small margin

I just want her to know that the more AtE she uses the more degraded that townlean will be

-K

Can I use Ate to coerce you with not reorecusion nya~

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

town reaction then should be to acknowledge read difficulty and bias correct the read to null

That has nothing to do with town/scum but personality. I find it strange that you are trying to attribute it to town/scum thinking.

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

Dude even the avi is female how are you messing up that pronoun

I thought Chronos was a male greek god lol

Dude even the avi is female how are you messing up that pronoun

I thought Chronos was a male greek god lol

of time. I know my Greek mythology.

Chronos was a titan not a god. Leader of the titan at that and father to half major deitys until zeus overthrew him.

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

Dude even the avi is female how are you messing up that pronoun

I thought Chronos was a male greek god lol

of time. I know my Greek mythology.

Speaking of. There is a cat in SM, who goes by the name “Luna”, who has a pal (I think) called Artemis and they give birth to a kitten called Diana, which kind of cracked me tf up, because ALL of those are literally names for Diana the Greek Huntress goddess.

*clears throat * Diana is a different name for Artemis, the Greek godess of hunting. Diana is the name the Romans gave her, Artemis came first.

Luna however is a different godess. Luna is based on the godess Selene which is the personification of the moon.

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

if you think you were mech cleared then you dont understand mechanics

There was a no kill and flipped town doc Dann healed us. I think maybe you’re not really the mech god you think you are?

[Venus and Mars]

Oh I misread you in TM too, I thought you were town for white-knighting us

i specifically set to make a me/ari team a believable solve for all the other players and it worked a treat :p

Town majorly dropped the ball in that game. Tw/Ari/RC/Math were all flaming obvtown but Skitter totally fooled me in that. I wasn’t paying enough attention to that game, to even have a read on you.

[Venus and Mars]

this was part of why i sr you in tm auro
all the fake actions
fake hammers
so triggering

I actually think all of those things are town indicative for Auro but I’ve only played once with scum!Auro and that was of course in CoC2.

[Venus and Mars]

also with nancy
she has such a terrible record of reading me
so coming in here with an insta sr on me is super underwhelming
i have very little time for people that fail to learn from past experiences of being wrong abt me

town reaction then should be to acknowledge read difficulty and bias correct the read to null

If you use any of that to read me, you will never get a correct read from any of that. You were super scummy in ND but you blatantly towntold at one point during SC1, so I obviously did a complete 180 on your slot.

[Venus and Mars]

They seem like very typical Nancy posts, why are they slightly concerning?

I policy scumread her heavy AtE ever since MD

-K

How many times do I literally have to scream at anyone with ears? None of AtE, derping or activity are ever AI for me and anyone who attempts to alignment read me for any of those things, are 100% wasting their time

[Venus and Mars]

these are some slightly concerning posts

They seem like very typical Nancy posts, why are they slightly concerning?

@Chronus, if you can kindly take your head out of your ass briefly and tell me your Xtoxm read, that would be swell. Thanks.

Why are you deflecting? You realised what asinine point you’ve made?

In the morning I’ll wake up and have a timeline of events and a slip case because certain people aren’t seeing it which is just mind boggling.

Why do want me to be scum? Some reason you’re forcing this? I’m not, so are you ever planning to answer my question or not?

If you’re refusing to talk about anyone else in the game, then I’ll just ignore you until a building literally falls on you and you buy a clue, fair?

But she was trying to work with Chronos inspite of their argument, and was moving towards ignoring him instead while he didn't back down at all. I think scum!Nancy would be a lot more concerned about someone pushing?

So why did you choose us for the fake dayvig then?

Was that actually a serious reaction test or just a straight up troll?

[Venus and Mars]

I dno Booney, would you prefer to have a guaranteed mislynch over just handling it smartly?

Having two extra millers on designated persons aint that big of a deal most likely.

Regardless, this topic is already starting to bore me. If you wanna lynch me, convince people im scum

I don't wish to lynch you, Vecna. I just want to make sure I understand your role.

I think BTE is town and I agree, it is extremely important that we understand Vecna’s role in detail to ascertain whether or not, it’s a serious threat to town or not.

[Venus and Mars]

Shallow work, no intricate hunting, and to go to such great extents to actually post it without a remote spark in her head going “this is too easy, is it really true?” + her making it sound confident is coming from scum more often than town.

A town wouldn’t have even bothered to post such nonsense. Let alone appearing as if they actually believed what they were saying.

Can you rephrase this? I read it three times and don't get it.

I’m saying you team building this early and selling it like you actually believe it is inherently scummy.

You shouldn’t have that level of confidence. The simple fact you actually posted it is baffling. Do you honestly believe in that pairing?

I post theories for feedback if I see a weird pattern develop. It's not a 100% lock theory. I rarely have a lock theory day 1. I hate day 1s overall. No hard data to see agendas. I read people in relation to each other.

Titus is town. No way this is a scum post.

Agreed.

[Venus and Mars]

Then he tries to deflect attention back to the other people who discussed the long explanation, and it looks like he also tries to diffuse the situation by backing off. However, I quite clearly stated that the reason I've singled him out is because he's played with me before and doesn't get the free pass to misunderstand my play that people who haven't played with me get.

I think jjh is town now.

Well now you know why I have disagreed with Chronus on a 3/3. I don’t understand the confidence behind any of her reads, so far this game.

[Venus and Mars]

Venus and Mars

Venus and Mars are conftowned as well.

Obvtown maybe? but I think confitown is probably a stretch atp but mega props for helping me to keep my sanity in this game, anyway.

[Venus and Mars]

Fyi, @chk, my best friend is dead, so you can stop behaving like an asshole to me. thanks.

My condolences.

Thanks, I’m trying not to let it emotionally affect my play but that isn’t easy and having an asshole of a superintendent in my building, isn’t doing me any wonders. :/

[Venus and Mars]

You locktowned KK yet?

No, I'm afraid of that slot.

You locktowned KK yet?

far too early for locktowning anyone

When I say lock town, that basically translate to SOLID TOWN READ. And is meant as a personal read without any hard evidence.

Bascially I can just null everyone but that doesn't help me sort players personally.

I want to sheep Venus and Mars because they are solid town imo. But Nancy's early game reads do not always pan out. But if they can stay alive long enough they will give us good info.

KK looks like a lynch option. But there are lots of slots that I haven't really dove into yet.

Nah, scum!Krazy would either be pushing me or hard pocketting by now.

[Venus and Mars]

They seem like very typical Nancy posts, why are they slightly concerning?

I policy scumread her heavy AtE ever since MD

-K

How many times do I literally have to scream at anyone with ears? None of AtE, derping or activity are ever AI for me and anyone who attempts to alignment read me for any of those things, are 100% wasting their time

Hence "policy scumread"

-K

To correctly read me, you should probably look for an absence of things I don’t tend to do as scum, as compared with town: degrees, conviction, intensity and quantity.

[Venus and Mars]

When I say lock town, that basically translate to SOLID TOWN READ. And is meant as a personal read without any hard evidence.

okay.
for me its an extreme high confidence read and i'll be personally upset post game if i give one and it turns out wrong

Xtoxm may be town?

[Venus and Mars]

Well, let me know what you think. It's intriguing.

Just stating right now that I will not confirm/deny and guesses.

aww but if i get it right can you? :3
my guess was rcenigma

are there actually more than one head in your slot btw?

I thought for a minute he could be Eddie Cane but his posting does remind me a lot of RCE, plus Eddie wouldn’t think I’d be NK’d early based on the games I played with him. I actually don’t see why we would be NK’d early, although I will be legit shocked if we make it to LYLO.

[Venus and Mars]

I believe EC is just EC, he's not an alt

-K

Agree it’s probably not EC but he does have alts: Mbaki.

I think anyone who played in LNT, should be able to accurately read me pretty quick, which is why I haven’t unvoted Xtoxm.

[Venus and Mars]

[Venus and Mars]

I believe EC is just EC, he's not an alt

-K

Agree it’s probably not EC but he does have alts: Mbaki.

I think anyone who played in LNT, should be able to accurately read me pretty quick, which is why I haven’t unvoted Xtoxm.

He’s made a few posts that sounded townie to me but considering he claims I don’t have a great history of correctly reading him, why in the actual fuck would he then put me in his lynchpool, based on that? He also initially voted us for not great reasons and didn’t automatically unvote us when I told him about my friend. He just continued to votepark us for reasons, he blatantly admitted were not scum indicative for me.

[Venus and Mars]

nancy. i have never played with scum!you and the only game im even aware of that you were scum is MD where you snowed everyone

you are not some 2018-creature tier player that gets to be townread just by turning up

so yes im going to be suspicious, and likewise you will always be wrong if you use that as a metric to scumread me
the only time i blanket townread you for no apparent reason was LNT where i was scum
so you should be MORE suspicious of me if im doing that

Please explain the bolded.

[Venus and Mars]

I believe EC is just EC, he's not an alt

-K

Agree it’s probably not EC but he does have alts: Mbaki.

I think anyone who played in LNT, should be able to accurately read me pretty quick, which is why I haven’t unvoted Xtoxm.

He’s made a few posts that sounded townie to me but considering he claims I don’t have a great history of correctly reading him, why in the actual fuck would he then put me in his lynchpool, based on that? He also initially voted us for not great reasons and didn’t automatically unvote us when I told him about my friend. He just continued to votepark us for reasons, he blatantly admitted were not scum indicative for me.

there was no time between you saying that and moving to pushing me
before i came to the thread
otherwise i likely would have

Good to know.

[Venus and Mars]

he blatantly admitted were not scum indicative for me.

where did i do this?

Your argument for sr us seems to be based on my according to you, presumably terrible ability to read you correctly, yes? If I am incorrectly reading you here, than based on that logic, you should be tr us based on that. I don’t understand why you view my vote on you as necessarily scummy, as opposed to just wrong, based on you claiming I’m bad at reading you, which is why I’m not tr your vote on us.

[Venus and Mars]

Spoiler:

It's D1 page 10 ffs. Fine.

Tonally, I'm comfortable enough with Fonz and dave to properly pin them as town. I'll be able to actually sort Titus when she really gets into it. I haven't played with the rest of you (that I can recall?) so that won't come as swiftly.

It should've been pretty clear that I was full of shit when I cited you, Auro, as the champion for my sheep vote when you hopped not 5 posts later. But hey, ass out of you and me for assuming, right?

I'm not comfortable with letting Vecna live. Who knows what that virus actually does, hm? "It makes you a miller" smells like bullshit to me. Boon doesn't throw millers all over the place for the lulz. There's a reason for it, which has been "hinted" to Vecna, but it seems like he knows more about it than he's letting on. But that's just a hunch. We'll see where it goes.

Auro, you seem like one of those types where townies better town post or else!!1! And I'm sorry but I don't have the time, energy, or give a fuck to wall until a sufficient amount of people think I town slipped. Did that last game and Nancy fucking bombed me for it.

Never again.

This is my one and only long post.

I'm getting bad vibes from this post, also it's pretty lame that your 'serious' read turned out to be very not serious.

@Kakeguri: it is strongly my belief that alignment is not randomised prior to role creation, and that someone who wanted to be scum could influence role allocation by picking scum only roles for the Booneytoonz list, or quotes from players from games where they were scum, etc.

Your strong belief is wrong. Undivulged non-randomness is bastard. Alignment is assumed to be randomised.

I agree with this viewpoint.

What's interesting it that nobody has ever given a shit about me explaining things in detail before. Because it's kinda dumb to think town!me isn't gonna give a full explanation for something when there os one and there's someone asking for an explanation, and there's no downside to me explaining it. I'd like those who think that post I made was weird to read it with context and explain why they think it's weird outside of this idea that I can explain my thought process.

Dave has played with me before. He doesn't get a free pass.
VOTE: davesaz

I think it's weird because I don't really believe you were thinking that hard about your early vote, and you could have came up with that explanation after the fact. At least that's how I saw it at the time, I'm more inclined to believe that it is normal for you after you explained it more.

@Vecna/chkflip chkflip said he couldn't let Vecna's role live but then doesn't vote Vecna. Vecna doesn't comment on it. What the? It's an odd interaction.

I disagree that anything weird happened, looking at the actual events. Mainly because I think it's normal to not place a vote for every off-hand comment.

So far, I like KK, Auro and Nom.

~M

I seriously do not get the Auro love. I think Auro Chronos and chkflip has the foundations of being a strong team.

This is jumping the gun and calling a team based off of little information.

This is the scummiest post in the game rn

Why?

Without going into a looong post while I'm on my phone-
Because he shades based on something other people have mentioned but doesn't commit to a read. I also don't think he has any reason to think it's odd considering he is familiar with my play. The thing that stood out most to him in catchup is something that other people already addressed far beyond its merit that I don't think he should care for.

I don't think not committing to an early read is scummy. I'd rather hear from davesaz as to his experience with you than vice versa.

Oh God we're going to get into another of those arguments about which specific escalation between "Your reads are wrong" and "I wish actual rl suffering on you and your loved ones" was the one that actually crossed the line. I'mma tap out for 24hrs for the sake of my mental health as I find these things deeply uncomfortable. Hopefully something happens to allow me to get a firmer read on the game on my return.

How about the people who were calling you mafia for being underwhelming, did you respond to that?

I genuinely don't understand why you'd throw out that TSE might be scum. He (unless I'm hallucinating) didn't get an opportunity to post at all. Is there a purpose to that shot in the dark? I don't get it.

Now that dinner has settled more, I slightly dislike this post

I gave chk a chance to rise in my reads and he kinda blew it, he might be down in my faint scumleans now

-K

I'm not seeing what you're seeing in that post.

Yumeko can I guess your main?

Sure, but I won't respond. Krazy knows it.

You locktowned KK yet?

far too early for locktowning anyone

When I say lock town, that basically translate to SOLID TOWN READ. And is meant as a personal read without any hard evidence.

Bascially I can just null everyone but that doesn't help me sort players personally.

I want to sheep Venus and Mars because they are solid town imo. But Nancy's early game reads do not always pan out. But if they can stay alive long enough they will give us good info.

KK looks like a lynch option. But there are lots of slots that I haven't really dove into yet.

OK, this seems like solid posting from you, except I don't know why KK is a lynch option for you, and I don't agree with that.

Reads so far...

Vecna and Chronos are most likely town

KK is (are?) town leaning

Virtually everyone else is null

Titus is slight sumread because of the above post.

I think these reads are town indicative from you.

---

VOTE: The Fonz

Because a good chunk of their activity is arguing about whether the upick alignments are random, and people are saying he is underwhelming compared to his town play.

---

-Yumeko

I’m not convinced Fonz is scum but I think KA might be town here.

[Venus and Mars]

nancy. i have never played with scum!you and the only game im even aware of that you were scum is MD where you snowed everyone

you are not some 2018-creature tier player that gets to be townread just by turning up

so yes im going to be suspicious, and likewise you will always be wrong if you use that as a metric to scumread me
the only time i blanket townread you for no apparent reason was LNT where i was scum
so you should be MORE suspicious of me if im doing that

Please explain the bolded.

you said you expected to be an instant townread for any one in LNT
for this to work you would have to have dramatic and easy to spot differences between your town and scum game
and necessarily i will have had to actually see your scum game
these things are not true. based on cold meta from a game i barely looked at you do actually have a scum game.

It was a CRUMB.

[Venus and Mars]

he blatantly admitted were not scum indicative for me.

where did i do this?

Your argument for sr us seems to be based on my according to you, presumably terrible ability to read you correctly, yes? If I am incorrectly reading you here, than based on that logic, you should be tr us based on that. I don’t understand why you view my vote on you as necessarily scummy, as opposed to just wrong, based on you claiming I’m bad at reading you, which is why I’m not tr your vote on us.

being wrong doesnt make you town
if you are scum its just as easy for you to sr me and use your record as a defence
i am exhausted by being scumread by you every game
you need to seriously re-evaluate your approach to me, if you are town, bc its approaching the point of not being fun to play with
you came in here with an instant sr on me and im going to push back on that even if i didnt think you were possible scum

I sr any slot that votes me for what I think is bad reasoning. You are not going to guilt me into changing my vote. Why? Because I can throw the exact same logic in your face, why your vote on us is bad here. Do you see that or not?

You’re wrong, I’m still trying to parse you but you’re not exactly making that easy.

[Venus and Mars]

So @Xtoxm, are you now claiming you think we’re town but you’re actually omgussing me to make a point and that is the only reason your vote is still on us because, if that’s your point, there are a helluva of a lot more effective methods to get that point across to me, don’t you think?

[Venus and Mars]

i am responding to YOU here.
the original vote was on the basis of you looking like you were flaking, which did not occur and i conceded that point and your explanation for it.

I understand that but it seems what you’re now saying, is you don’t actually sr us but you’re voting us to protest my vote on you? Am I understanding this correctly?

[Venus and Mars]

I’ve also tried numerous times to make up for that game I hydra flaked on you - which had zilch do do with you and everything to do with the role we got - and it hasn’t happened yet but I won’t keep begging you to give me another chance if you’re not interested,

@Xtoxm

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Bad reasons for votes, excessive reliance on mech talk and doesn’t really appear to be solving.

~M

This post? That is how I saw it att but based on everything you’ve been saying - are continuing to say, none of this is scummy and I’m just wrong town based on my meta at incorrectly reading you, so my obvious question again. is why are you sr us for this?

[Venus and Mars]

i am not upset about that hydra nancy dont worry about it.
when you asked me again i was busy and im not great with replyign to PMs
i would still be happy to hydra with you c:

i am not upset about that hydra

i was a little bit upset at the time bc i was quite excited to hydra with you but i got over it very quickly

Let’s make sure it happens then and this would probably put an end to the topic of this discussion - hopefully permanently.

Nothing has been more useful to my making reads than hydraing with someone.

[Venus and Mars]

the incorrect statement about my approach to mech IS scummy.
sr me in and of itself is not scummy.

thats not what i said.

It’s not scummy based on how I remembered your play. It doesn’t make me correct but it 100% was an honest thought and you don’t know my play very well, if you honestly think otherwise.

[Venus and Mars]

Yumeko are you townreading me or am I just not a current lynch option?

-K

I thought Krazy was in your hydra and signing as K, but on second glance that does not appear to be the case. It's the second one, I don't have a strong enough opinion to townread you but I don't feel like you would make a good lynch.

---

-Yumeko

What? Of course Krazy is in that hydra.

[Venus and Mars]

my point is, i will not allow your history of scumreading me as town to be an effective cover for you as scum.
which it is if dont take a stand at some point.
whether this is the game you pulled scum in or not.

It isn’t and this reads like a really bad reason for voting us. I almost unvoted you before this post but I really really hate this post.

[Venus and Mars]

i am not upset about that hydra nancy dont worry about it.
when you asked me again i was busy and im not great with replyign to PMs
i would still be happy to hydra with you c:

i am not upset about that hydra

i was a little bit upset at the time bc i was quite excited to hydra with you but i got over it very quickly

Let’s make sure it happens then and this would probably put an end to the topic of this discussion - hopefully permanently.

Nothing has been more useful to my making reads than hydraing with someone.

great. look forward to it.

+1

[Venus and Mars]

Spoiler:

Subject: Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

Your scumread on Xtoxm seems to be based on him being opposed to lynching Keys, who you scumread, correct?

Incorrect. That has nothing to do with why I'm suspicious of Xtom. Xtom's read on Nauci, as well as his reads on otthers throughout the game, are suspect. His mechanical analysis isn't.

But since I’m mind melding with him on not wanting to lynch him today, for pretty much the exact same reasons. I obviously can’t see that as scummy, irrespective of Key’s actual alignment.

That's fine. I don't see why agreeing with him about something mechanical makes him a townread. Scum usually don't have trouble faking mechanical analysis. It's easy to talk about setup/mechanics as scum because it doesn't matter if you're informed/uninformed, the analysis is the same. When it comes to behaviors, scum run into trouble because they're already informed about alignments in ways that make it difficult for them to analyze behaviors without already knowing that the behaviors come from a particular alignment. Xtom has been avoiding behavioral analysis in favor of mechanical speculations.

And tbf, I was right on NM. I townread him, so like I said to Varsoon right at the beginning of the game - I’m always going to put a hard townread over anyone else’s opinion - even yours.

That's fine. You were right about NM, so I'm seeking your insight into Xtom. I'd like to know why he's town. I'm still waiting for you to explain the townread.

i dont see how you can play that game and others with me and not come to the conclusion that im a mech focused player

Because it seemed to me that you might possibly be hiding behind mech in this game. I never thought that in either SC1 or ND. I think we’re at an impasse here, since we both view each other’s votes on us as scummy, so that isn’t going to bring clarity. I think that’s overwhelmingly obvious.

[Venus and Mars]

im voting for you because you're voting for me and tunneling me
call it a bad reason if you want
i dont actually care which of the non towny slots die
d1 isnt that interesting to me

I’m not one of those “non-towny slots”, which I can’t seem to get you to grasp. You’re voting for me in THIS game, based on the hypothetical game, where I roll scum and presumably tunnel you, isn’t reality in THIS game. How tf would future scum!me even have a goddamned clue how I would even interact with your slot until it literally happens?

[Venus and Mars]

Because it seemed to me that you might possibly be hiding behind mech in this game.

i was literally accused of that by scum in SC1
do you still think im hiding behind mech in this game? i feel like i have plenty of non mech content now?

No but I still think your reasoning for voting me is bad, so sorry if you’re actually town but I honestly don’t know how to get past that.

[Venus and Mars]

you. are. not. a. town. read.

And we have what seems like a deadlock. I think I’m obvtown here and you don’t, so I don’t think this conversation is helping.

[Venus and Mars]

my not-d1 pool:
Titus
Davesaz
Krazy Katz
Auro
nomnomnom
Jjh927
Chronos

not group scum:
Vecna - however dave mentioned the virus sounds like a 3p win con and boon does like to create new 3p roles so if we think this is possible he should probably be lynched today i guess

leaving a d1-poe:
Venus and Mars
The Fonz
Chkflip
Conspire
Kakeguri Addicts
George Bailey
BooneyToonzExpert

meh

Looking at this list, I think there must be at least one wrong in your not D1 lynch pool but damn if I have a freaking clue who that would be, because it would mean the entire scumteam is in your PoE and that seems unlikely?

That’s why I almost alway prefer to townblock on D1 but other than us, I agree with the majority of your not D1 lynch pile.

[Venus and Mars]

VM
KK
Auro
Titus
Nom
jjh
KA
BTE - even if it’s a pocket, I like it.
Maybe Dave?

I agree that Veca is extremely unlikely to be mafia.

Jury’s still out for me on Chronus.

I honestly can’t figure out what to do with Xtoxm anymore. I just really would love it for him to throw me a bone, anything at all really.

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Venus and Saturn
I think those are the right planets.

Anyways, this slot looks promising.

VOTE: Venus and Mars

Mistakes were made

Why does our slot look “promising” to you? Is this still an RvS vote you haven’t bothered to fix?

This is a lazy vote, based on this. Btw, you once again have the planets wrong, it should be Uranus and Pluto. YW.

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: George Bailey

2 unexplained lazy votes back to back.

[Venus and Mars]

a presumably policy vote on TSE

That was actually my RVS. I kinda know the guy so I wanted some sort of reaction from him. I switched after nothing really happened with him.

followed by a vote on someone who's not here

Ye, what's wrong with voting people who havent even posted yet? I like to sort people after everyone has atleast posted a few times.

It's low effort and unlikely to move the game forward. It means you're not picking up on anything happening in thread, which can speak to lack of town motive

. *Shrug* I don't really see scum anywhere else yet, mostly people throwing their (presumably) usual playstyles at each other in a way that seems largely boring and NAI to me.

+1

My thoughts exactly.

[Venus and Mars]

If he was scum who could "cancerously millerize" town and neuter cops, why even claim it?

He could just target his scum allies I guess.

Which is why the targets should probably be:

1 on Miller. And 1 on the most confirmed Town for D1. Since there's no way to mechanically TR them after that.

For someone who makes 2 lazy votes, does this read to anyone else as a possible TMI? He didn’t even get our names correct initially but he already has “targets” in mind for Vecna? Is this really coming from a townie mindset?

[Venus and Mars]

Looking at this list, I think there must be at least one wrong in your not D1 lynch pool but damn if I have a freaking clue who that would be, because it would mean the entire scumteam is in your PoE and that seems unlikely?

i would be surprised if there wasnt.
my d1 reads dont tend to be that impressive, so im only sorting by not-today and could-today
trying to give detailed reads this early doesnt usually go well for me

I very rarely do that on D1. I’m still not 100% convinced you’re town but you’re clearly not the best vote today. I actually think GB might be scum. Of your non-D1 lynch slots, he is arguably the scummiest. It doesn’t add up: Lazy voting + very intensive level thinking on who Vecna should “target”. Disinterested town would be just as lax on both. It doesn’t add up imo.

[Venus and Mars]

[Venus and Mars]

Actually @Xtoxm, I’m afraid the hydra thing will be a no go after all. Hydraing with you could possibly put a friendship I value extremely strongly in jeopardy, so until you make things right with that person, I’m afraid I can’t risk it. I’m very sorry. :/

[Venus and Mars]

Oh okay
If he hates me that much it's fine

If you were to apologize and make things right, he might possibly change his mind?

[Venus and Mars]

I didn't know you were on such bad terms with Tuxedo Mask!

-K

lmao

[Venus and Mars]

Was that actually a serious reaction test or just a straight up troll?

Latter.

Sure, but I won't respond. Krazy knows it.

Dunnstral.

I'll be off thread for today too.

Extremely relieved to hear that. Dunnstral has a female alt?

[Venus and Mars]

i dont wanna talk about it here
contact me after the game if you would like to discuss this further
lets focus on the people that are in this game

Fine, I’ll do that. I think there’s a better than rand chance GB could be scum.

[Venus and Mars]

If you were to apologize and make things right, he might possibly change his mind?

I think if Tuxedo Mask has a problem, he should be the one addressing that problem :3

-K

i dont wanna talk about it here
contact me after the game if you would like to discuss this further
lets focus on the people that are in this game

[Venus and Mars]

i do as well
hes one of a comparatively large number of slots that really arent doing anything

That isn’t why I’m voting him. I find it suspicious that a slot that can’t make a decent vote with any reasoning whatsoever but just coincidentally happens to be the most interested party on whom Vecna ought to “target”, pinging.

[Venus and Mars]

Ok I need a VC to tell heads or tails of this game. I want to see if Bailey Conspire and the Fonz contains multiple scum or not. The wagon motion is bothering me.

VC please

Titus is town, people. When I wake up, I’ll respond to more.

[Venus and Mars]

Ok I need a VC to tell heads or tails of this game. I want to see if Bailey Conspire and the Fonz contains multiple scum or not. The wagon motion is bothering me.

VC please

Titus is town, people. When I wake up, I’ll respond to more.

I'm convinced

VOTE: Titus

Between Auro fake dayvigging me and this, I’m not amused.

[Venus and Mars]

@Venus and Mars: Why is Titus town for that? Have you played against scum!Titus before?

Titus unlike say Ank, isn’t particularly great at replicating her towngame as scum and I’ve seen her make posts just like that one as town.

[Venus and Mars]

You know Auro, you'd really get along with Guiltylion for no reason in particular.

???

What does GL have to do with anything?

[Venus and Mars]

@George: No that's not how Occam works
@Nancy: Ever read Calvin and Hobbes?

See ya tomorrow

Yeah, I get it now.

[Venus and Mars]

@Titus: Do you think their townread of you for that post is legitimate, then?

I think so. I wouldn't lock town them but they're one of my strongest TRs. They tend to know how I think.

The biggest concern is Shiro's lack of cookie posting

. I hard town Nancy, lean town Shiro.

Is Shiro known to low post as scum or what does -bolded- mean?

Shiro is known to low post in hydras PERIOD. I was also the active poster in Shakespeare Boon game but he will probably become more active as the game progresses.

[Venus and Mars]

shiro when he does post as town tends to meme/image/silly post whereas here he's been more serious I thinj is the concern.

Still since I roused him from lurktown he might not have been in the mood idk

-K

He has? Unless you’d call him correcting me on Greek mythology, “serious”?

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Vecna

Would Boon seriously create an role so antitown as town? His posting sounds townie but he has yet to inform us of the full extent of the consequences of his role.

I remember in RC uPick, he claimed he would never create a blatantly harmful antitown role for town. Boon obviously isn’t RC but because this is a Booney Toones uPick, the possibility of harmful 3P roles, is more likely than not.

Regardless, Vecna’s role definitely looks like it has the ability to turn the game upside down and not in a good way.

[Venus and Mars]

Boon would, but that doesn't mean we're forced to keep the slot alive simply because it's town

LNT would have gone a lot different if we'd just lynched BEF day 1 if we'd known he was SFV

-K

Welcome, BrightEyedFish, you are a Town 1-shot StickyFruit Vendor.

Abilities:
• At night, you

may

give your target a "Sticky Fruit". They will be informed that they have received a Sticky Fruit, but not who they received it from, nor what it does. They will only be informed that they

may

pass it along the following night. Any player given a Sticky Fruit will be immune to all actions the night they receive the fruit except for kill actions.

Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here. Confirm by replying in your Confessionals Thread.

BEF’s role in LNT was a lot less problematic because it wasn’t COMPULSIVE.

[Venus and Mars]

Spoiler:

loosely paraphrased, I target 2 people and they will appear scum alligned for most intents and purposes

Then.....those people will have to target two new people to give the same treatment.

I spread viruses, and the people that get infected will have to spread it further.

Im guessing the easy way around this is to just announce who ill target, and those people will be leashed to target eachother after that

permanently, and they have to spread it to new people the next night that will suffer the same fight.

So either looping it by leashing, lynching me d1, or just accept the chaos and let it reign free with all the likely not so good consequences

If he was scum who could "cancerously millerize" town and neuter cops, why even claim it?

Although this is not a great argument, my spreading virus does in fact not tell the infected people what it does. Just that they have to spread it.

Anyways, the two people I chose will get notified they recieved a virus. They can then also confirm theyre not actually informed what it does, and that they have to spread it.

I think Vecna’s role compulsively turns its recipients into contagious millers or that’s what I’m getting from this.

[Venus and Mars]

But it was in the hands of BEF, so it kinda was

-K

True, if Vecna had BEF’s actual role in LNT here, I definitely wouldn’t be voting him.

[Venus and Mars]

the game continues after you die on n1 you know :<

Nonsense if you die in the game you die in real life

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

Sore feet replaces Xtoxm.

In my catch up, I was planning to respond to his posts to me, I guess there’s no point to that now.

[Venus and Mars]

duckling assures me hes going to be a terrible hydra partner but i dont believe him

-x

Oh, you’re still in the game.

Hey Duckie. <3

[Venus and Mars]

WHOA

A game with wooper where he's replacing in on a slot I already townread AND I'm town

Could this be it wooper

could this be the time

is it gonna happen?

-K

He was also town in VG, he just couldn’t read us properly in that.

[Venus and Mars]

If Fonz is serial killer we should just never lynch him; and we can just not put in any effort either!

It definitely helped us win Post-Apocalypse.

[Venus and Mars]

Fonz j/w but if you claimed serial killer day 1 I just want you to know we wouldn't lynch you. So are you serial killer? You can claim it with day 1 safety is what I'm saying

-K

No I'm a nightkill immune Miller vig, isn't that what all the cool mods are calling it these days?

That’s the actual role, I should have requested.

[Venus and Mars]

Alch is confirmed SK?

Yeah.

That really didn’t work out too well for him though.

[Venus and Mars]

There's probably something beneficial to town for Vecna's role. I don't see why a role would be so blatantly anti-town. Maybe people who are cured get some sort of buff?
It's possible there's a doc right now who's reluctant to claim because they'll probably get NK'd.

Why would a doc claim, especially on D1?

If there are protown aspects to Vecna’s role, why hasn’t he claimed them?

BEF was voluntary sfv in LNT, there were no protown aspects to his role. If Vecna had BEF’s role pm, then we could just leash him to permanently holster but that unfortunately isn’t an option in this game.

[Venus and Mars]

vecna you need to claim the pro town power you alluded to
game is stalled and i dont think significant wagons are gonna be possible until we answer "is vecna the d1 play"

+1

[Venus and Mars]

With a bunch of nulls, probably. I TR like 4 people right now.

Who are these lucky 4?

Town

Jjh927, Venus and Mars
Krazy Katz, Auro

Null:

Vecna, Titus, Sore feet, Mechanic, The Fonz, Conspire, BooneyToonzExpert, Davesaz, Chronos
Chkflip, Kakeguri Addicts
nomnomnom

Scum

The lucky 4 gets a "nice" from me in a consecutive post

nice

Spoiler:

[Venus and Mars]

BEF was voluntary sfv in LNT, there were no protown aspects to his role. If Vecna had BEF’s role pm, then we could just leash him to permanently holster but that unfortunately isn’t an option in this game.

bef's role in LNT isnt comparable to vecnas claim here
the SFV was actually really scary to play against as scum, it had town utility in conjuciton with the loyal/disloyal mods and we had to put a lot of resource into getting rid of it
the millerizer is pure negative utility

-x

Yeah, agreed.

[Venus and Mars]

Nancy are you still mad at me for the dayvig

No, I’m over it, I was briefly upset because I thought initially you had done it as a reaction test but now that I know it was a troll, I feel better about it but still, not funny - not to me anyway.

[Venus and Mars]

@Titus: Do you think their townread of you for that post is legitimate, then?

I think so. I wouldn't lock town them but they're one of my strongest TRs. They tend to know how I think.

The biggest concern is Shiro's lack of cookie posting

. I hard town Nancy, lean town Shiro.

Is Shiro known to low post as scum or what does -bolded- mean?

Basically even when Shiro low posts, I expect a Cookie gif. It goes back to our cookie hydra.

I have submitted your cookie request twice already. \_0_/

[Venus and Mars]

I am not sure on this Vecna policy lynch. If he makes people millers, I can ensure that items work by adding a disloyal or loyal modifier to them.

What made you think he's a policy?

I think there's shenanigans related to his role.

He keeps telling us that there’s protown aspects to his role but he has yet to adequately explain any of that.

[Venus and Mars]

@Titus: Do you think their townread of you for that post is legitimate, then?

I think so. I wouldn't lock town them but they're one of my strongest TRs. They tend to know how I think.

The biggest concern is Shiro's lack of cookie posting

. I hard town Nancy, lean town Shiro.

Is Shiro known to low post as scum or what does -bolded- mean?

I low post in general lately that why I always hydra, used to mostly low post when scum though not gonna lie. Game is young though and nothing has piqued my interest enough.

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

@Titus

[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0f/56/00 ... ab85d7.gif[/img

~Venus

[Venus and Mars]

@Titus



~Venus

I feel ashamed

[Venus and Mars]

Who's RubyClouds?

Spoiler:

[Venus and Mars]

Page 13:

• George's 303 feels genuine.
  
• Vecna's 314 is good.
  
• Mars' solving is good.
  
• Fonz has good vibes.

Page 14:

• Krazy Katz, mind fully explaining how it talks of your miller-status being removable? Does it suggest you need to be targeted by something or imply that it's enabled by something...etc?
  
• Titus talking about teams like this feels off. Why are you lumping in chkflip and Chronos? Chronos hasn't mentioned Auro till this point, so are these just your top scumreads or are there associatives I'm missing?

I need to stop slacking off at work, so be back later. Suspects at this point are: JJH, Chronos, Titus.

-Cosmic

What is it about jjh you dislike?

[Venus and Mars]

Page 15:

• Feeling the Auro-love now.
  
• I really like 372 from Chronos. Similar thoughts on that Titus post, and articulated in ways I failed to earlier.

Page 16:

• Ask about 390 (Why is the vote on Titus so bad?).
  
• Ask about 395 (Why unvote Auro based on that post?).
  
• I don't get where Chronos is coming from regarding the TMI thing but it's towny for putting herself in that position.

VOTE: Titus

I love llamas.

Spoiler: I love llamas.

I love llamas.

-Cosmic

It’s not bad from Chonus’ perspective, I just disagree with it based off of Titus meta.

[Venus and Mars]

Michael Scott [Volxen + Auro] replaces Auro.

When I wake up tomorrow, I fully expect everyone who’s currently not in a hydra, to be in one.

[Venus and Mars]

Anyways, I also have some other more pro-town stuff going on with my role Pm, so id prefer to just play the game instead of getting lynched d1

You really should tell us what that is.

[Venus and Mars]

Let's hurry up and finish the BR lynch. The resistance right before claim spot screams not town. Don't you guys think scum would ensure we got that claim before backing off if BR was town?

BR? Who?

[Venus and Mars]

Liquor stores are closed but I have this magical leaf stuff we grow in Canada. If that can count.

You poor thing.

You poor thing.

I wouldn't wish being sober on my worst enemy.

Something completely went over some people’s heads. lmfao

[Venus and Mars]

Liquor stores are closed but I have this magical leaf stuff we grow in Canada. If that can count.

You poor thing.

You poor thing.

I wouldn't wish being sober on my worst enemy.

Something completely went over some people’s heads. lmfao

I started drinking because getting basic food is a journey now. I feel sorry if you can't even drink. I hope people are more reasonable when it comes to food.

Forgot to add this. Do you really not get what GB is talking about here?

[Venus and Mars]

HMMMMM
espe was my top guess for cosmic's identity

tinfoil:
GB and conspire are scum, and espe has been posting in scum pt on main

-x

That fucked over one scum slot in HP, I remember.

[Venus and Mars]

When I saw Wooper replace in:

Not worse than Corona though.

Does Corona make your tootsies hurt?

[Venus and Mars]

Something completely went over some people’s heads. lmfao

Yeah, I'm talking about our maple leafs of course.

It's in our flag.

I knew it! Maple syrup always gets me patriotic and hungry.

[Venus and Mars]

What about my 230?

About your Vecna read:

1.

Where did you get the impression that something's been hinted to Vecna which he isn't letting on?

2.

Also, what makes you say Boon wouldn't have a miller plague? He likes doing funky stuff regarding investigatives; his last game had a universal-investigative-enabler.

Bolded to seperate.

1. Not including his slight-at-best role claim in 189 (linked for ease to find), he hinted in 178 and again in 199 that HE thought that Boon was implying there's more to his role. Hinting and not outright saying what a role does in and of itself is bastard and, while these setups are known to be a little whacky with their own set of Boon roles to have as options, this game is very different. It wasn't advertised as bastard so it goes without saying that nothing in our roles should be unexplained regardless of Boon's tendency to use "strange"/Boon roles. Vecna knows what his role does, he just isn't openly admitting it.

2. I was in the last game and wouldn't be surprised if someone got juvenile delinquent. But that vs a quasi-randomly parsed out plague that, once it starts, simply cannot be stopped are leagues different IMO. One cripples cop and cop-like roles. I wouldn't be surprised if this virus did more than millerize. I'm well aware that Vecna stated we can chain it to the same two people; however, I don't fully believe he's being completely honest to begin with. So it isn't a stretch to me that all of a sudden keeping it to those that are already infected isn't actually a legitimate option. And lynching him tomorrow for that is too little too late as it'll continue two-by-two down the line until the end of the game.

No thanks.

Chk is making some decent points here and I think it could possibly be a mistake to ignore them. Vecna needs to make it much more clear exactly what we’re dealing with. He claims his role could be protown. Is that what he was alleging in his “17 layers of awesome” post or possibly something that may come back to bite us?

[Venus and Mars]

I don't buy it. What are you hiding, George?

-Cosmic

My role lets me know people's main.

/s

I don't buy it. What are you hiding, George?

-Cosmic

My role lets me know people's main.

/s

I knew it. But I bet you didn't expect us to be a redirector, did you? I now know

your

main.

Spoiler:

It's been a while, ducky.

-Cosmic

What? Is this a troll or something?

[Venus and Mars]

Didn't The Fonz also say there was some hidden/unexplained part in his role?

Eh, I think this is a reasonable twist on a juvenile delinquent; instead of potentially disabling all cops N1, it slowly removes cop abilities from the thread. And it makes sense for it to be a penalty you can remove, but it costs you a town lynch. It's also possible that certain roles are immune;

my own role has a modifier whose in game effect is explicitly unknown, so I'm guessing there may be other unexplained modifiers out there, one of which might confer immunity

.

So, you think there could possibly be some actual benefit to Vecna’s role?

[Venus and Mars]

Page 17:

• 414:
  Dave's post was made what looked like during a catchup. So the fact others have mentioned it doesn't
  Though, I did just go look at Dave's posts from during that time, and it was just that one post he commented on during that "catchup". Fair point.
  
• 419 is again scummy. I don't get these hypothesises and they come across as unnatural. Someone tell me if this is a NAI playstyle thing.
  
• Haven't wrapped my head fully around the argument Mars/Chronos are having but Chronos town from tone.

Page 18:

• Mars town from meta.

People are so rude to giraffes. This is what a google search for "majestic giraffe" yields:

Spoiler:

-Cosmic

In the last Boon game, Titus somehow got it into her head that A50 and I were a team and that he was white knighting me or something, so she voted me to reaction test A50. We were both of course town as was Titus.

Is there something significant about giraffes?

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Kakegurui Addicts

Why? I thought they seemed townie?

[Venus and Mars]

Drunk Titus, who do you dislike that's pushing vecna?

-K

Chkflip.

I know people say I'm crazy there but I find it odd the Vecna push happens just after that.

Considering Vecna’s role, how do you see a Vecna lynch benefiting scum - other than of course, the likely possibility that he flips town?

BEF was voluntary sfv in LNT, there were no protown aspects to his role. If Vecna had BEF’s role pm, then we could just leash him to permanently holster but that unfortunately isn’t an option in this game.

bef's role in LNT isnt comparable to vecnas claim here
the SFV was actually really scary to play against as scum, it had town utility in conjuciton with the loyal/disloyal mods and we had to put a lot of resource into getting rid of it
the millerizer is pure negative utility

-x

It’s not just chk who is expressing concerns and I’m not sure if it’s comparible to Fonz’s unknown modifier or not. @Vecna, can you maybe paraphrase why Boon made you think your role had “17 layers of awesome” in it? Thanks.

[Venus and Mars]

you didn't misrep chkflip titus he scummy

he scummy scummy scummy

I don'tknow if he flip scum but he is scummy

he's like way more political this game

now that coudl be because he got NANCYDDDDDDD

but hes deffos more political and that means it is wise to be wary

u feel me girrlllllll??>???

-K

Cool, I’m apparently a verb now?

[Venus and Mars]

it's the corona.

Spoiler:

That should be spread for free to every citizen.

[Venus and Mars]

you didn't misrep chkflip titus he scummy

he scummy scummy scummy

I don'tknow if he flip scum but he is scummy

he's like way more political this game

now that coudl be because he got NANCYDDDDDDD

but hes deffos more political and that means it is wise to be wary

u feel me girrlllllll??>???

-K

I feel you definitely. But that doesn't leave drunk or sober me with a confident lynch choice. My gut says Auro isn't town but no one will tell me why he is. Chronos is an ass.

But then there's the wagon dispersal and threats which suggest one of the wagons is on scum.

So I'm just ahhhhh

Some Tum chewies may help with that. Read CoC1.

[Venus and Mars]

I can't wait for the day I actually try alcohol and get buzzed and come drunkpost on MS!

It's something you look forward to until you actually do it.

Last time I posted drunk, Drew tried to get me mislynched because typos.

[Venus and Mars]

NANCY u kno i only talk shit about u to ur face cause i luv u

u just gotta feel the sasssss girrrrrllll

we been thru too much shit at htis opint

-K

So long as you don’t do that to me when I’m in the dead thread and can’t respond, I guess it’s okay. To paraphrase that character in When Harry Met Sally - I want to have what you’re having.

[Venus and Mars]

Nancy do you wanna help me bus as well?

Depends, can I drive?

[Venus and Mars]

Drew tried to get me mislynched because typos

What? Because of typos? Wtf lol

No joke. I somehow left off the first letter of two words and Drew tinfoiled that it was some scum message and I was faking being tipsy and pretending to make typos.

[Venus and Mars]

My gut says Auro isn't town but no one will tell me why he is. Chronos is an ass.

chronos is a cutiepie wat u talkin bout

<3 chronos

idgaf if auro is scum he's like, being a cool scummbutt and still being proactive and shit

and hey, after all, we can just assume that if scum haven't killed him by day 4 that he's confscum because otherwise the scumbutts would be afraid of him solving the game!!!!!

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-K

Dw, if he’s not dead by D4, I’ll seriously consider bussing him.

[Venus and Mars]

Drew tinfoiled that it was some scum message and I was faking being tipsy and pretending to make typos

That's the most tinfoil shit lmao.

Yeah and it contributed greatly to him getting mislynched in that.

[Venus and Mars]

we been thru too much shit at htis opint

"htis"
"opint"

Look at how Krazy managed to invert the first two letters in CONSECUTIVE words.
He's clearly trying to signal something to his scumpartners by cleverly disguising typos in his ""drunk"" posting.

Flash lynch him and then give me my paragon nom pronto. Thanks and see you.

Sure thing, Drew.

[Venus and Mars]

Caught up, and I've got next to nothing.

Far, far too much "[Person A] did [thing B] to [Person C] in [game D]"

I basically switched off after a few pages, so TBH I don't have much to add. Many of the things that stood out as interesting have been discussed and dealt with already so no point in bringing them up again, except...

@Vecna/chkflip chkflip said he couldn't let Vecna's role live but then doesn't vote Vecna. Vecna doesn't comment on it. What the? It's an odd interaction.

This is blatant misrepresentation of what was said, don't like.

If I missed anything relevant in pages 21 to 25-ish can some please tell me what it was, i decided to skip the dissection of a previous game.

snip...
But if they can stay alive long enough they will give us good info.
...snip

Imagine I don't have the vaguest clue about Nancy and explain why the above is true please.

Reads so far...

Vecna and Chronos are most likely town

KK is (are?) town leaning

Virtually everyone else is null

Titus is slight sumread because of the above post.

Do you still nullread the rest of the playerlist or haven’t really been reading? None of this is a deep read so far.

[Venus and Mars]

@Boon, can you please prod Mechanic?

Thanks.