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I think it's clear we should try to send scum and force them to succeed if we hit two.
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Check the scum win loss conditions.
I am supposing scum want town to fail all trials.
If success only gives a bonus to scum, my position changes.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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This here.In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:There is the potential for a very very bad event named Maximum Failure. This happens if three townies get sent to the trials, and two of them fail; or if two scum are sent to the trials and one of them failsShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why is it that people use the person who hates meta to vouch for their playstyle? Eddie says obvious stuff as either alignment.In post 109, EddieFenix wrote:No that's my honest to goodness play style. Titus can vouch for that from the games we've played together as well as the hydra games I've done with a friend of mine who has retired. Like, right now with Pob and BM, that one quote with the "rocking the boat" pinged me as an in-thread "we need to distance from one another."ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: FidgetShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'm not reading pages of people quadra posting. If you got something to say, be more efficient.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Fidget, what's your Leia read?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Ooh dueling wagons. I likey.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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He's sheeping your VLA.In post 282, shellyc wrote:plusjoy you posted after me. who sheeped who?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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We caught you in a scumslip.In post 277, shellyc wrote:I semi-forgot about this game.
I need to stop forgetting about stuff, can someone give me a tl;dr with the 6 new pages
also replacements don't just happen for inactivity, force-replacement is a way to solve a compromised slot but you're not supposed to discuss replacements anyways
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When the time is right. Just get on.In post 287, Nosferatu wrote:
ik u probably will but pls eggsplainIn post 284, Titus wrote:
We caught you in a scumslip.In post 277, shellyc wrote:I semi-forgot about this game.
I need to stop forgetting about stuff, can someone give me a tl;dr with the 6 new pages
also replacements don't just happen for inactivity, force-replacement is a way to solve a compromised slot but you're not supposed to discuss replacements anyways
VOTE: shellyShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Battle Mage, are you sure you're not sending her personality to the chair?
Taylor, the mystery of Day 1 Titus does not get explained until the moment comes. I know we haven't played together much so you get a pass for now.
VC please.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'll be back Sunday. I may pop in tomorrow but don't expect it.
X post all games.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.
There was no "scumslip" at all. I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely. Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.
I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.
Vecna is well Vecna.
VOTE: FidgetShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Fidget and shelley might be partners but he could be whiteknighting her.In post 310, DrippingGoofball wrote:
It's called casting a wide net of possible votes.In post 306, Fidget wrote:I also somewhat thought shelly looked town for outing so many scumreads.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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DGB has extreme difficulty producing content as scum. So if she's making content early, she should be treated as town. It's a bit of BoP and sucks if DGB gets sudden RL concerns but it's a meta difference even I can't deny.In post 333, Marashu wrote:Could someone please explain to me what people are expecting from DGB and why? I feel like there's a BoP here but from what I've seen I don't know why.
You literally just quoted the post with the results I got.In post 338, RedPanda wrote:In post 315, Titus wrote:By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.
There was no "scumslip" at all. I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely. Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.
I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.
Vecna is well Vecna.
VOTE: Fidget
have your reaction tests ever gotten you results??
I like the humility here and it explains some reservations I had about you. I am used to the Battle Mage that goes all out as town (barring that one game you had a post restriction).In post 346, Battle Mage wrote:you mean the saw game where I single-handedly fked the entire game up for town? yeah, i think that answers your question.
On a more serious note, I generally reap better rewards when I lay low for the first half of day 1. I haven't done it often, but when I have, my reads have tended to be really good - Saw Day 1 was actually an example of that, although better examples in games since. Good question though.
The shelley wagon is literally dying and was never going to be a thing. The wagon on me is the more viable counterwagon. Your premise is just wrong here.In post 352, Battle Mage wrote:you've seen people want you gone
you've seen shelly is the counterwagon with most momentum
you are joining
regardless of shelly's alignment, i'd say this is not a good look for you hombre
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Why does your VCA always implicate me? It's astounding to me that you've suspected me in every game we've ever played together, except for the one I was scum in.In post 315, Titus wrote:By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.
There was no "scumslip" at all. I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely. Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.
I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.
Vecna is well Vecna.
VOTE: FidgetI hate this woe is me. You are acting like this is a personal vendetta when I have no idea who you are. You're clearly some sort of alt that I have no knowledge of your main. So if my methods always ping you then it's either a) you're scum or b) you play like it. You spend this rant as if you're speaking to town me too.
Through page 15. Not touching the Pickaxe Pete wagon based on who got on. Reevaluating the wagon conclusion based on the motions of new wagons.
I think Battle Mage is getting sheeped by scum for his invalid premise and a reaction by Pickaxe that is easy to jump on.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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This post is a mystery for someone who knows me very well.In post 383, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Bolded part does seem like complete BS.In post 315, Titus wrote:By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.
There was no "scumslip" at all.I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely.Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.
I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.
Vecna is well Vecna.
VOTE: Fidget
Fidget's whole response to me is weird regardless of his alignment.In post 384, DrippingGoofball wrote:
I know I said you're town earlier, but this stinks of bus'ing.In post 323, Fidget wrote:
I've never played with Titus where she was scum, I don't think. You do make a good point that she's following the pattern I guess.In post 320, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
so does that mean you think titus is town because as town titus always falsely suspects you?In post 317, Fidget wrote:
Why does your VCA always implicate me? It's astounding to me that you've suspected me in every game we've ever played together, except for the one I was scum in.In post 315, Titus wrote:By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.
There was no "scumslip" at all. I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely. Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.
I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.
Vecna is well Vecna.
VOTE: Fidget
It mostly means I'm getting irritated for no reason though.
If the point was to get a reaction from shelly, then I would agree wholeheartedly. The goal was to get a reaction to see how easy it was to get a counterwagon to Taylor and what the less active slots would do voting wise.In post 385, DrippingGoofball wrote:
An actual good point being made.In post 334, Marashu wrote:That said, when I saw it, it was meant to gauge the towniness/scuminess of the person being targeted, so it strikes me as weird to do this to someone who is V/LA, or at least not waiting that it was fabricated until the person got back to see if she got nervous.
Tldr reply to Fidget. I don't expect you to agree on a scumread of your slot ever. That's not the point. NAI you will argue it is wrong. So unless people actually care, I am not responding to 90% of that wall.
I will respond to the Vecna is Vecna comment. Vecna and I have a frequent history of suspecting each other day 1. His vote doesn't matter much to me because I expect it as either alignment. As town, he gets paranoid of me. As scum, he has to fake it. I'm going to read Vecna based on how he engages with others when he gets invested.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I need a VC to answer this specifically.In post 392, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so titus how many scum do you think are on the pickaxe wagon and who are they?
However, I am drawing this conclusion because 1) the premise that started the wagon is wrong and obviously so 2) my wagon minus Vecna jumped onto the Pickaxe wagon, 3) the wagon movement makes me rethink my earlier wagon momentum thoughtsShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Well, if you were really familiar with me, you'd know that a) my VCA is just wagon momentum study until day 3 with a scum lynch. Lockscum means I would be willing to vote you for the rest of today.In post 394, Fidget wrote:
I'm sorry I didn't mean for it to come off like accusing you of having a personal vendetta.In post 391, Titus wrote:In post 317, Fidget wrote:
Why does your VCA always implicate me? It's astounding to me that you've suspected me in every game we've ever played together, except for the one I was scum in.In post 315, Titus wrote:By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.
There was no "scumslip" at all. I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely. Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.
I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.
Vecna is well Vecna.
VOTE: FidgetI hate this woe is me. You are acting like this is a personal vendetta when I have no idea who you are. You're clearly some sort of alt that I have no knowledge of your main. So if my methods always ping you then it's either a) you're scum or b) you play like it. You spend this rant as if you're speaking to town me too.
Through page 15. Not touching the Pickaxe Pete wagon based on who got on. Reevaluating the wagon conclusion based on the motions of new wagons.
I think Battle Mage is getting sheeped by scum for his invalid premise and a reaction by Pickaxe that is easy to jump on.
What I mean is that your method has a 0% success rate on me. Which is an option you left out, so I suppose that is option c).
I'm torn because the craziness of your test and its ensuing result doesn't match up with your confidence level. I feel you could have thought it was a good test as town, I guess. It's not the first time. I would say I'm past it but I just spent a lot of time getting annoyed about it so maybe it's a little soon to say that
My problem is you seem to act like we have extensive history but you don't know basic things about me, my VCA, or apparently my scum game.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VC pleaseShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Well that's the thing about wagon analysis and VCA. It's not about context. It's merely about when the votes are placed. The only exceptions are things like guilties.In post 397, Fidget wrote:
I have a tendency to respond poorly to being scumread. Sometimes I can sympathize with the reasoning after taking a break though. In this case, I cannot. I don't get it even slightly. I don't get how the test worked, I don't see what I was doing before the test, and you certainly haven't explained it past calling me lockscum for being "sheeping scum".In post 393, Titus wrote:Tldr reply to Fidget. I don't expect you to agree on a scumread of your slot ever. That's not the point. NAI you will argue it is wrong. So unless people actually care, I am not responding to 90% of that wall.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Well here's the thing. There's two other scum if I am right and three if I am wrong. A dialogue with you doesn't hurt town, whatever your alignment is. So despite the fact I would be down for voting you at anytime today, I am still going to hunt other scum and check my assumptions.In post 400, Fidget wrote:
I don't know much about you, we've just played a few games together. My voting patterns set off your VCA alarms for whatever reason, I don't really know why.In post 396, Titus wrote:Well, if you were really familiar with me, you'd know that a) my VCA is just wagon momentum study until day 3 with a scum lynch. Lockscum means I would be willing to vote you for the rest of today.
My problem is you seem to act like we have extensive history but you don't know basic things about me, my VCA, or apparently my scum game.
I really don't want to come off like accusing you of being a tyrant that constantly scumreads me to torment me or something.
You do scumread me for VCA a lot though. That's all I really should've said and stopped there, but well.. that'd be just too rational.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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It's nothing new having people flip out about my methods regardless of their alignment. I don't take it personally.In post 401, Fidget wrote:I guess it's a playstyle clash that I just don't get and probably won't. Again I'm really sorry for flipping out about it.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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No. I don't argue what I did as VCA. As scum, I don't argue VCA early. I keep hidden the magical time where it becomes effective then more and more effective.In post 411, Vecna wrote:
so you wouldnt agree with me your scum game relies a lot more on gimmicks like this early early vca, while your townplay involves a lot more gut and natural progression?In post 396, Titus wrote:
Well, if you were really familiar with me, you'd know that a) my VCA is just wagon momentum study until day 3 with a scum lynch. Lockscum means I would be willing to vote you for the rest of today.In post 394, Fidget wrote:
I'm sorry I didn't mean for it to come off like accusing you of having a personal vendetta.In post 391, Titus wrote:In post 317, Fidget wrote:
Why does your VCA always implicate me? It's astounding to me that you've suspected me in every game we've ever played together, except for the one I was scum in.In post 315, Titus wrote:By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.
There was no "scumslip" at all. I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely. Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.
I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.
Vecna is well Vecna.
VOTE: FidgetI hate this woe is me. You are acting like this is a personal vendetta when I have no idea who you are. You're clearly some sort of alt that I have no knowledge of your main. So if my methods always ping you then it's either a) you're scum or b) you play like it. You spend this rant as if you're speaking to town me too.
Through page 15. Not touching the Pickaxe Pete wagon based on who got on. Reevaluating the wagon conclusion based on the motions of new wagons.
I think Battle Mage is getting sheeped by scum for his invalid premise and a reaction by Pickaxe that is easy to jump on.
What I mean is that your method has a 0% success rate on me. Which is an option you left out, so I suppose that is option c).
I'm torn because the craziness of your test and its ensuing result doesn't match up with your confidence level. I feel you could have thought it was a good test as town, I guess. It's not the first time. I would say I'm past it but I just spent a lot of time getting annoyed about it so maybe it's a little soon to say that
My problem is you seem to act like we have extensive history but you don't know basic things about me, my VCA, or apparently my scum game.
My townplay does involve more natural progression and is less cohesive than my scum play. My scum play has less holes but still frquently advises town of the best answer (unless forced into otherwise).
My personality is changing since my divorce though, which naturally carries over to how I play mafia. So meta circa 2017 should not be used to read me.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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@BM,
Stop being butthurt that your Pickaxe wagon is full of scumbutts and bad town.
Also, I never reread my ISOs. I use VCs to assess wagons later. That's why it's called VCA.
I'll wait here while you scream Pickaxe is scum and wonder why the wagon fails.
@DGB,
ThanksShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Taylor, on a 1-10, how bad does a town!Titus scare you right now?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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YesIn post 436, Fidget wrote:I thought Titus was saying she disagreed with this premise for the Pete wagonShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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The question is pretty clear. You're acting pretty damn scared of me since the reaction test designed to sort your wagon.In post 446, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
what?In post 444, Titus wrote:Taylor, on a 1-10, how bad does a town!Titus scare you right now?
You've been scared of me getting a VC and going through the Pickaxe pete wagon.
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So a weak player with a right read gets wagoned based on faulty reasoning from a town slot.In post 452, DrippingGoofball wrote:Pickaxe Pete's iso is pretty bizarre with the shellyc obsession... but at the same time his points against shellyc are on point.
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Another fear response by using a strawman. I never accused you of PMing the mod to delay the VCs, only that you might not like the result. When someone says, I need hard information that will come. That shouldn't scare you regardless of what you think my alignment is if you're town.In post 455, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
yes i've been secretly PMing the mod and begging them to avoid posting VCs, you caught me. the reaction test was designed to sort my wagon now? i thought it was designed to test fidget. ive literally been asking you to go through the pickaxe pete wagon.In post 450, Titus wrote:
The question is pretty clear. You're acting pretty damn scared of me since the reaction test designed to sort your wagon.In post 446, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
what?In post 444, Titus wrote:Taylor, on a 1-10, how bad does a town!Titus scare you right now?
You've been scared of me getting a VC and going through the Pickaxe pete wagon.
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Pickaxe pete is weak in this game. It's pretty obvious based on how fast his wagon built and how little people TR his play.In post 456, DrippingGoofball wrote:
He's a weak player???In post 454, Titus wrote:
So a weak player with a right read gets wagoned based on faulty reasoning from a town slot.In post 452, DrippingGoofball wrote:Pickaxe Pete's iso is pretty bizarre with the shellyc obsession... but at the same time his points against shellyc are on point.
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Fidget. I'll probably move when I see the VC unless all major options are horrible.In post 459, DrippingGoofball wrote:In post 454, Titus wrote:So a weak player with a right read gets wagoned based on faulty reasoning from a town slot.
Related,
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Because I am voting a different scum. Second, I am not 100% sure. I am extrapolating based on how easy his wagon took. It could be that Taylor is scum and the wagon on me which morphed into Pickaxe Pete could be scum. Of course that means Fidget would be less likely to be scum due to the neighbor rules in VCA.In post 462, DrippingGoofball wrote:
If Pickaxe Pete is right about Shellyc, why aren't you voting shellyc? I was assuming that you were.In post 461, Titus wrote:
Fidget. I'll probably move when I see the VC unless all major options are horrible.In post 459, DrippingGoofball wrote:In post 454, Titus wrote:So a weak player with a right read gets wagoned based on faulty reasoning from a town slot.
Related,
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Spoiler: VCs
We had a static wagon of five on Taylor when I performed my reaction test on Shelley. Most of the people on the wagon are consensus town. So the question becomes where are the scum or why has this wagon stalled?
The only person to initally jump off the Taylor wagon to me was Fidget, who I suspected before. None of the people voting for me discussed shelley in any meaningful way. They jumped from VLA to no scumslip without any meaningful search at her behavior. The wagon started from Vecna being the likely town shepherd into a bad wagon. Scum rarely start bad wagons day 1, especially when buddies are being FoSed.
So right now, I am left with two possibilities. One, Taylor is scum and her wagon stalled due to lack of bussing or two, scum are jumping on anything with a pulse to look like they are providing content.
Then, we get to Pickaxe Pete. It's another wagon that gained steam based on town with faulty reasoning.
This point, I strongly suspect at least one of Taylor and Fidget is scum, but not both. ShellyC and Taylor being partners would explain why those two wagons have slow burns stalled out while others are more rapidly exploding.
VOTE: shellyC
Perfectly ok with a Taylor vote as well for the reasons above. I can't find scum on either wagon as they currently sit.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Not sure. Both alignments grovel/beg. I'll take it because it means talking which is good for solving.In post 469, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Titus, who do you feel about having a pet in the game? Is this grovelling from scum or town?In post 467, Fidget wrote:Do you want me to make an unofficial VC for you TitusShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I agree with this.In post 485, shellyc wrote:
this is close to a prodgeIn post 477, PlusJOYED wrote:shit bros my mafia processing power is having trouble booting im in too many games
i do think pete is sus though UNVOTE:
VOTE: pete
there's a noticable difference between town!plus and this read-sheeping which doesn't indicate a town mindset at all
If Plusjoy is scum, it suggests scum value you over Pickaxe Pete.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Read: You voted the scum partner nakedly.In post 513, Tayl0r Swift wrote:initially i had you as light town for townreading me, which i assumed was a metaread. but that has since changed to a bit of a scumread - your posts are mostly fluff, light on analysis, and you've been hopping your vote around quite a lot while sheeping. i expect more and better content from you. and the townread on me could just as easily be an attempt to pocket.
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No. It's a sign given in context. If Shelley C was town, her play benefits scum if PlusJoy is scum. She thought he was. Saying that to her is a wake up call to be more town and a failsafe I use to prevent tunneling.In post 505, Battle Mage wrote:Eh, this is stating the obvious? If Plusjoy-scum voted for Pete, he probably wanted to eliminate Pete rather than Shelly. You could have told me what that might mean for their alignments, or made an inference of some kind, rather than just re-state what is evident from the post you quoted.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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No. My read is your read suddenly changed based on his vote.In post 515, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
your take is that nos is scum with shelly?In post 514, Titus wrote:
Read: You voted the scum partner nakedly.In post 513, Tayl0r Swift wrote:initially i had you as light town for townreading me, which i assumed was a metaread. but that has since changed to a bit of a scumread - your posts are mostly fluff, light on analysis, and you've been hopping your vote around quite a lot while sheeping. i expect more and better content from you. and the townread on me could just as easily be an attempt to pocket.
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I'm not townreading you. I am not scumreading you either. I am deliberately waiting to see how you react to others to sort you.In post 519, Vecna wrote:why are you townreading me titus? some details would be welcomeShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Can you elaborate on this meta tell?In post 529, Battle Mage wrote:have read through all her past games (she was scum in all bar 1), and she had a prolific tell across most of the scumgames which she didn't use in the towngame. That's good enough for me. I guess a shelly scumflip makes Pete look bad anyway, but I'm good with the meta approach first.
Also can you elaborate on why a shelleyC scumflip makes Pete look bad?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Hmm, going to have to see where and why Pickaxe fell apart.
Battle Mage, Without you answering my questions, you know what my assumption will be.
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Only one person got on after BM did...In post 607, shellyc wrote:it's clear that pickaxe is scum, joyed is bussing them with a vote that isn't furthering anything
the wagon falling apart and very quickly going back to me is clear that I am green and they are red. BM comes in saying "meta incriminates me" and bam, all the scum pile on me the lynchbait
BM's joining was the response to the wagon if anything.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Sleep deprived or not, this doesn't sound plausible to me about anyone reading the thread or who has played mafia on MS before.
Nobody thinks VCs are backwards if familiar with MS.
Anyone reading would know BM was at the back of the wagon.
Arguing BM started the wagon and scums piled on is what happened to PickAxe and it's what shelly wants to fake here.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I am not even justifying that nonsense with a further response.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: Plusjoyed
I am townreading the other two.
Objectively, I would vote PickAxe today but that's not happening.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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A good result could vary by number of scums in the gladiate without Shelley having control.In post 626, Vecna wrote:Like, based on the last few posts from shelly, if she did get a good result and she got to decide who would be fighting eachother, I bet pickaxe Pete wouldve been in there.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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The scum lynch on Day 1 being bad and then the battle mage kill heavily favor scumreading Pete. I still personslly feel Pete is town but the objective nature must put him in the DTL pile.In post 633, Vecna wrote:Titus, given that we know that the OP says a D1 scum lynch will be especially bad for town, how does that impact how youre gonna look at the voted on D1?
I need to look at the three names and see who most likely was scum in both a town and scum PickAxe world.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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It's swingy, and we have no known PRs. We also have no method of determining if Shelley passed or failed.In post 637, pob long wrote:
for day 1??? thats way too powerfulIn post 636, Gypyx wrote:I mean... 3 peeps to gladiate : 0 scum = horrible / 1 scum = failure / 2 scum = success / 3 scum = perfect
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Regardless of Nos alignment, you're still scummy to me. I don't know whether this is mislynch bravado or bussing but you have provided no articulable reason for a NOS fos.In post 659, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yesssssss
im glad to see people coming around on my nos read
VOTE: nos
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TS: Plus is obvscum, so he can't be scum. So let's vote the vocal townie out inside because of gut.
Me: Gut is not a valid reason. Town should vote out obvious scum. There's no evidence to support scum picking the gladiate.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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The class is waiting for your reason on Nos?In post 693, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
this, or i just have some tacit reason for thinking Nos is scum. we did your thing yesterday, look how that worked out.In post 660, Titus wrote:
Regardless of Nos alignment, you're still scummy to me. I don't know whether this is mislynch bravado or bussing but you have provided no articulable reason for a NOS fos.In post 659, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yesssssss
im glad to see people coming around on my nos read
VOTE: nos
What is your read on Plus joy? He was the major turning point against the PickAxe wagon. Your ignorance of him makes no sense.
Yeah I spoke up when I saw there was a bad wagon. Just because shelly was town doesn't make Pete scum. I am not going to stop playing because I was wrong in the early game. I get better as things progress. If people want me on ignore, fine. I'll try as much as my mind and body let me.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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You can sass me or you can actually use common sense that I am holding your feet to the fire and demanding a reason.In post 695, Tayl0r Swift wrote:Definition of tacit
1: expressed or carried on without words or speech
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I propose that if we hit scum, regardless of who we lynch, that we keep lynching in these 3 until we hit town or win lol.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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If we hit town right off, we do VCA.In post 702, EddieFenix wrote:
What if we hit town right off?In post 698, Titus wrote:I propose that if we hit scum, regardless of who we lynch, that we keep lynching in these 3 until we hit town or win lol.
If I die, force Taylor to do it.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I feel like my IQ just dropped 10 points.
@DGB, I trust my townreads to be able to do VCA. Nothing excludes you from doing it, even when I am alive. I welcome the scrutiny.
The part about forcing Taylor to do it means she has to give an overarching theory of the game.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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