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[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma for spamming.

VOTE: Kokichi Oma for spamming.

VOTE: Kokichi Oma for spamming.

VOTE: Kokichi Oma for spamming.

VOTE: Kokichi Oma for spamming.

[Kokichi Oma]

Not a bad wagon, guys. I might join it.

[Kokichi Oma]

What does that even mean?

[Kokichi Oma]

36 is a good post by dunn.

VOTE: ruby

[Kokichi Oma]

Also that last vote count is wrong. Esp is voting me, in una is not.

[Kokichi Oma]

I wonder if a Miller Cop would produce a guilty on a Miller?

I wonder if a regular Cop would produce a guilty on unabombah?

[Kokichi Oma]

Both

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes. Which is why I said a good post.

[Kokichi Oma]

That's a random post to make

[Kokichi Oma]

Una are you a double voter?

[Kokichi Oma]

am i honestly the only one who cares about kokichi popping in to just comment on the vote count and ask about a role at the same time

and not doing anything else

Sorry I've been busy all day. I cant appease everyone.

[Kokichi Oma]

Either way me asking about a double voter is scummy how?

[Kokichi Oma]

Dunn. What's your Maria read?

[Kokichi Oma]

wagons are pro-town, there was already one starting on the one person, what would the point be in starting another?

Well, that's your opinion, I don't see the value in a wagon that isn't based off of anything vs voting a lead

Why are you being ultra defensive of what I said? For one, if you judge the strength of what I was pushing, I had just came into the thread and pointed out somethign that seemed off to me, you reacted to this by voting me and saying there was 'no way' I could believe that, while also shading Kokichi for voting you.

What you should be doing is answering how 7 was a wolfy post, but then 8 was a bad vote, from your point of view?

link me a towngame and a scumgame?

I like how you dodged the question here. Impressive.

[Kokichi Oma]

kokichi was the one blatantly sheeping you

if you dont need to ask questions for direction, how about asking questions for sorting people as wolves

How is one vote blatantly sheeping when I've also given out reasons to scumread you. I think you're bring super defensive when it isnt needed. Which is also why I think you're scum. I also think you're scum because of the contradictions you've posted. You keep saying Dunn is wolfy. But then you only want to vote me or something_smart. You also keep pleading to Dunn who you said was wolfy, which is a contradiction

[Kokichi Oma]

Guys I claim a compulsive Vig, Death Miller, Commuter.

This could be scum trying to bring it back to RVS

[Kokichi Oma]

Hey Kokichi, have you actually been scum in any of the previous games we have played together?
I think I've seen you lynched in all of them, but can't remember the flip..

I've been lynched as scum 1 time. And it's only because the mod didnt tell us the day vig wouldn't work in lylo. Were you in the visual novel game but guyfreezer? If not, then all the times I've been lynched I've been town.

[Kokichi Oma]

By*

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: kokichi

good vote

Damn, now that Maria has made it an actual wagon, I'm too scared to switch my vote for I fear people will think I'm aligned with Kokichi..

wolfy?

VOTE: UnaBombaH

bad vote

I'll show all how town I am for I'm brave!

VOTE: Ruby Red for no read or at least no understand what read if really read and not just quick see what say in terms of words..

pardon me?

It's been a while since I last played, and I feel like there's a joke here that I don't get.

towny

Slightly suspicious at this post
The way they respond to everything with one line early on reminds me of scum posts

VOTE: Ruby Red

@zoro he makes a contradiction. Says una is wolfy then says Asuka's vote on una is a bad vote.

[Kokichi Oma]

It's just 1 of the few contradictions I've seen him make. Contradictions come from scum.

[Kokichi Oma]

Hes scum, dont be sorry

[Kokichi Oma]

UNVOTE: I like ruby more now. I think I just dont like his quoting and him posting wolfy towny w.e on it.

[Kokichi Oma]

I still think it's a contradiction in the post Dunn quoted.

[Kokichi Oma]

I am absolutely playing to my town meta. Wouldn't say it clears me but it should put things a lot more in perspective.
Town: beep, boop
Scum: beep (I am using the alt iiSq5024), boop

kokichi is lock wolf to me, don't understand how people are townreading him. like, this is ---literally--- a classic faked push.

Unfortunately, he has done this shit before as town. Here.

@ruby. Why did you ignore what Something Smart said when he said I've played this exact way as town in a previous game?

[Kokichi Oma]

36 is a good post by dunn.

VOTE: ruby

To my read, post 36 seems thin gruel. The post he's quoting,7, seemed to me to be a complete joke post. Construing that as a serious post, then putting someone on the spot to defend a joke post strikes me as bad reasoning.

Why do you feel post 36 is good?
Or... did I miss a joke again, and this exchange was an extended joke I'm not privy too?

I think you're misunderstanding. I know that Una's post is a joke. Ruby never clarified that his "wolfy?" Post was a joke. Which is what I assumed was the contradiction. Is he saying that's a joke now as well?

[Kokichi Oma]

36 is a good post by dunn.

VOTE: ruby

To my read, post 36 seems thin gruel. The post he's quoting,7, seemed to me to be a complete joke post. Construing that as a serious post, then putting someone on the spot to defend a joke post strikes me as bad reasoning.

Why do you feel post 36 is good?
Or... did I miss a joke again, and this exchange was an extended joke I'm not privy too?

It wasnt what Dunn was posting but the fact that it seemed like he was calling Una scum but then saying voting him was bad. Do you understand now?

[Kokichi Oma]

You misunderstood somehow, post 7 is a nested quote inside of another quote and not what I was drawing attention to

I misspoke, sorry, that's on me.
I meant 16 struck me as a joke post.

7 also struck me as a joke post, but my perception of those both as jokes may be coloring my view of this interaction. 16 seemed like a joke response to 7 also being a joke, so using that as the basis to draw alignment conclusions struck me as... odd?
So I was hoping that Kokichi could explain why he felt those were solid conclusions.

I knew 7 was a joke post. But I didnt think 16 was a joke post. Thus why I thought it was a contradiction and agreed with Dunns 36 quote. But, I guess I was wrong

[Kokichi Oma]

I am absolutely playing to my town meta. Wouldn't say it clears me but it should put things a lot more in perspective.
Town: beep, boop
Scum: beep (I am using the alt iiSq5024), boop

kokichi is lock wolf to me, don't understand how people are townreading him. like, this is ---literally--- a classic faked push.

Unfortunately, he has done this shit before as town. Here.

@ruby. Why did you ignore what Something Smart said when he said I've played this exact way as town in a previous game?

another failure of reading comprehension

Instead of trying to insult, can you quote where you addressed? Been busy and havent been able to read much. But, I'm trying to now

[Kokichi Oma]

Ruby, if I linked some town and scumgames, would you check them out?

I think it would be very illuminating.

I dont like you trying to push your self meta so much

[Kokichi Oma]

anyways, vote kokichi with me? game you linked doesn't seem similar to here at all. lot more of a cheeky villager, lot less confidence in reads at the start.

Never mind. I see it now. I don't think I've said any read besides my scumread of you, and I just retracted it. So I'm not sure what you mean

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm okay with Ruby red now

VOTE: UnaBombah
Feels weird to look at the thread when stuff is actually going on and say you have no reads, then go to townreading Kokichi

Speaking of which I don't really agree with the stance you're taking right now Kokichi

Unbiasly, I understand why people are skeptical of me. So, I dont really get his townread on me either

[Kokichi Oma]

Also I'm a bit worried about Dunn right now. From what I've seen as town hes never this active.

[Kokichi Oma]

@maria give me your Dunn read

[Kokichi Oma]

@zoro he makes a contradiction. Says una is wolfy then says Asuka's vote on una is a bad vote.

So you are also making the conclusion that was a serious post and not a joke?

It's just 1 of the few contradictions I've seen him make. Contradictions come from scum.

a) Can you point out the others, because I'm not really convinced here.
b) I am inclined to agree with Something_Smart; I see town contradict themselves all the time. I find it NAI.
But, I want to see what's making you come to this conclusion; what other contradictions are pushing you to think Ruby Red is scummy?

Yes I believed it was serious. The other ones were me misreading. I've been busy so I havent been able to read as intently

[Kokichi Oma]

Dunn is likely town.

Talk to me about this read please. You dropped a similar read earlier about kokichi also being town, and I'm curious if those two reads are tied up together / made for similar reasons.

Or, just talk to me about who you feel is scum.

Agreed. Hopefully hes posted this by the time I'm done catching up.

[Kokichi Oma]

Ausuka, is that a serious vote on UnaBombaH?

Yes. Up to the point I'm writing this post, Unabombah has felt very tonally off. My post 31 was meant to indicate this but I guess it is very unclear so I don't blame anyone who misinterpreted it.
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47 is a good observation and it makes me like Dunnstral for now.
60 is a fair response to it, though. The reason I voted unabombah was because I already had a scumlean on him, so I had no need for any RVS vote.
Lapsa saying people are scum for lurking on page 3 is weird but I don't think it's that likely to come from scum?
I really like 84 from Dunn as well. I also think 112 is towny, so rn I think {Dunn, ruby} is TvT.
133- Zoronos seems obvtown at this point, it seems like he's legitimately motivated to find scum.
135 is scummy. I don't like 147 either; I don't really understand any of his reasons to push Ruby as accurate. I don't see any problem with Ruby's 117, considering all he was saying was that Koki was sheeping at the time, and I don't see why he views defensiveness as scummy at all, either (this is possibly just a difference in mentality but I think he's experienced and unless I'm totally wrong about the way I approach the game, which I don't think I am, defensiveness isn't a scumtell at all. I've been accused of it multiple times when I'm just town responding to points, and I think it's the sort of scumtell you see more often from newbies, which Koki isn't. But this is just a tangent so whatever.) Considering that ruby had said that dunn was towny, I also don't see why it's a contradiction to now talk to Dunn like he's town. Basically this doesn't seem like a real push to me.

I'm also going to do ISO reads because I feel like being tryhard Ausuka this game and I feel like my current thoughts aren't good enough for that.

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Ausuka

is obvious town.

Mumble

is very town; I believe the miller claim, I kinda follow what he's been doing (especially with the early Una vote) and he's not playing at all like he did in Floral mafia.

Ruby Red

is probably town. I follow what he's been doing, and I agree with him about kokichi (and some other things, like Una's scummy opening.)

Dunnstral

is a player I townread. His post 36 is somewhat scummy in that it makes like 0 sense and I understand 100% where Ruby is coming from in scumreading that, but it's basically RVS at this point so I'm not going to hold this read to a high standard. 47 is a good observation, at the very least, and I think it's likely to come from town legitimately trying to find scum. His push on ruby in general just feels real to me; I don't agree with it, but I follow what he's saying.

Lapsa

is a townlean I guess? I don't really understand what he's saying, but it definitely looks like he's making lots of notes about the game, which makes him towny.

Something_Smart

- looking back his thoughts on Ruby are kinda towny and I have way too many SRs if he's scum.

MariaR

- idk why she townreads Unabombah in 27.

Espeonage

is completely null. He hasn't given content, but he has a RL reason for that, so it's NAI.

ArcAngel9

has done nothing at all.

Mr Moisto

basically did nothing but arrive in a jokey way and not do anything despite there being a lot of content. He can be scum.

Kokichi Oma

is a scumread. 39 is meh- I guess I could see it coming from town but I don't really see how you look at that post and think "oh hey, that's a good point." I've already mentioned that I don't like 149 and I see it as a fabricated push. I do like 148 though. 151 is another bad post- RR gave an explanation for this- why is he ignoring it? 155 also feels fake to me.

I don't have time to finish this and tomorrow there will be too many new pages for it to be relevant. Suffice it to say, Zoronos is towny, unabombah isn't.

I'm sorry, but I dont buy having this much reads in like less than 10 pages. I dont like this post

[Kokichi Oma]

idk why she townreads Unabombah in 27.

Fwiw, I can see why people would townread Una's early game.

How?

[Kokichi Oma]

what worries me though is already raised argument that kokichi is fence sitting too much

How exactly am I fence sitting. I literally gave out one read, and pushed on it. I dont like this post.

[Kokichi Oma]

I want a wagon on kokichi given he seems to be the common link in all this and while I don't really scumread him hard my only 2 big scumreads seem to be connected. And I don't think you guys will wagon dunn so (B

Maria could be scum. No way she just votes me like this if she's town and she says she doesn't scum read me. I will link games that show she could be scum here just for this vote alone.

[Kokichi Oma]

@Maria why do you want a wagon on someone you dont scumread? I dont buy the linking bullshit

[Kokichi Oma]

To me, it seems like trying to just jump on the bandwagon and trying to not take blame when I flip town and say "well I told you I didnt scum read him"

[Kokichi Oma]

Ausuka, is that a serious vote on UnaBombaH?

Yes. Up to the point I'm writing this post, Unabombah has felt very tonally off. My post 31 was meant to indicate this but I guess it is very unclear so I don't blame anyone who misinterpreted it.
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47 is a good observation and it makes me like Dunnstral for now.
60 is a fair response to it, though. The reason I voted unabombah was because I already had a scumlean on him, so I had no need for any RVS vote.
Lapsa saying people are scum for lurking on page 3 is weird but I don't think it's that likely to come from scum?
I really like 84 from Dunn as well. I also think 112 is towny, so rn I think {Dunn, ruby} is TvT.
133- Zoronos seems obvtown at this point, it seems like he's legitimately motivated to find scum.
135 is scummy. I don't like 147 either; I don't really understand any of his reasons to push Ruby as accurate. I don't see any problem with Ruby's 117, considering all he was saying was that Koki was sheeping at the time, and I don't see why he views defensiveness as scummy at all, either (this is possibly just a difference in mentality but I think he's experienced and unless I'm totally wrong about the way I approach the game, which I don't think I am, defensiveness isn't a scumtell at all. I've been accused of it multiple times when I'm just town responding to points, and I think it's the sort of scumtell you see more often from newbies, which Koki isn't. But this is just a tangent so whatever.) Considering that ruby had said that dunn was towny, I also don't see why it's a contradiction to now talk to Dunn like he's town. Basically this doesn't seem like a real push to me.

I'm also going to do ISO reads because I feel like being tryhard Ausuka this game and I feel like my current thoughts aren't good enough for that.

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Ausuka

is obvious town.

Mumble

is very town; I believe the miller claim, I kinda follow what he's been doing (especially with the early Una vote) and he's not playing at all like he did in Floral mafia.

Ruby Red

is probably town. I follow what he's been doing, and I agree with him about kokichi (and some other things, like Una's scummy opening.)

Dunnstral

is a player I townread. His post 36 is somewhat scummy in that it makes like 0 sense and I understand 100% where Ruby is coming from in scumreading that, but it's basically RVS at this point so I'm not going to hold this read to a high standard. 47 is a good observation, at the very least, and I think it's likely to come from town legitimately trying to find scum. His push on ruby in general just feels real to me; I don't agree with it, but I follow what he's saying.

Lapsa

is a townlean I guess? I don't really understand what he's saying, but it definitely looks like he's making lots of notes about the game, which makes him towny.

Something_Smart

- looking back his thoughts on Ruby are kinda towny and I have way too many SRs if he's scum.

MariaR

- idk why she townreads Unabombah in 27.

Espeonage

is completely null. He hasn't given content, but he has a RL reason for that, so it's NAI.

ArcAngel9

has done nothing at all.

Mr Moisto

basically did nothing but arrive in a jokey way and not do anything despite there being a lot of content. He can be scum.

Kokichi Oma

is a scumread. 39 is meh- I guess I could see it coming from town but I don't really see how you look at that post and think "oh hey, that's a good point." I've already mentioned that I don't like 149 and I see it as a fabricated push. I do like 148 though. 151 is another bad post- RR gave an explanation for this- why is he ignoring it? 155 also feels fake to me.

I don't have time to finish this and tomorrow there will be too many new pages for it to be relevant. Suffice it to say, Zoronos is towny, unabombah isn't.

I'm sorry, but I dont buy having this much reads in like less than 10 pages. I dont like this post

To go back to this. This post is LITERALLY a copy/paste of what most people think about said people this game. I think I can quote for every read when I have more time. Does no one else see this?

[Kokichi Oma]

dunnstral explain why you've already made half as many posts in this game as you did in those villager games you linked me

This makes me feel better about you that you noticed this right away too

[Kokichi Oma]

I thought Kokichi just mindlessly agreeing with you and placing a vote down was strange it's why I asked the question in the first place. If you had an issue with kokichi you'd say so but you didn't find anything wrong with that vote?

Did YOU? Because you didnt even try to address me after I answered your question. Suddenly you say that I'm linked to people when other people scumread me, which as I said seems like a half assed reason to lay a vote on me. If you seriously thought it was strange you would have pushed on it more.

[Kokichi Oma]

How do you feel about Aus the trs to that slot make me go "huh" because I don't get it very much at all.

So, I tend to lean slightly scummy on people that drop in, make a big post, and then leave (I like seeing both interactive back-and-forths and huge thought-posts). However, her thought process on reaching the Kokichi conclusion mirrored mine, and I hadn't yet specified exactly why I was questioning him, so it feels like she arrived at the same conclusion organically rather than just sheeping my logic. If she's thinking the same way as me, that suggests to me that her alignment is the same as mine. So, my base lean is slightly towny but I want to see more.

I'm at a higher base-suspicion level for Arkangel, since she made a check in "I should catch up" post and then didn't actually inject any content. I've seen perpetual-catching-up from scum more than town, so that's my base suspicion.

She basically just said what Ruby has said this whole time in one post

[Kokichi Oma]

2) Because I forgot that Mumble even posted let alone did that or I would've called him out on it.

Catching up for today, but this stood out.

You forgot that I posted? Anything? 9 pages in?

Agreed. Especially since you claimed Miller iirc

[Kokichi Oma]

what worries me though is already raised argument that kokichi is fence sitting too much

Yeah this didn't happen

As in, nobody said that to my knowledge and looking over the thread briefly

Yeah, I think Lapsa was making up that whole post, I posted about it earlier.

[Kokichi Oma]

36 is a good post by dunn.

VOTE: ruby

To my read, post 36 seems thin gruel. The post he's quoting,7, seemed to me to be a complete joke post. Construing that as a serious post, then putting someone on the spot to defend a joke post strikes me as bad reasoning.

Why do you feel post 36 is good?
Or... did I miss a joke again, and this exchange was an extended joke I'm not privy too?

I think you're misunderstanding. I know that Una's post is a joke. Ruby never clarified that his "wolfy?" Post was a joke. Which is what I assumed was the contradiction. Is he saying that's a joke now as well?

why are you asking a question that was answered later on and should be obvious that it would have been answered later on?

this question is rhetorical, i already know the answer.

I never saw you say it was a joke. And I dont think you said it to me in particular

[Kokichi Oma]

Anyway, Ruby, you seem to be interested in meta so I will ask if you want to see a sample of my scum game. I usually dont like doing this but, I think you could actually be town.

[Kokichi Oma]

229 is kinda just ???

How? Ruby said the same thing?

[Kokichi Oma]

anyhow - wanted kokichi to take the spotlight instead of silently going down

Pretty sure I've had the most posts in the game so no idea what you mean by this either

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm really not like Asuka because if they didnt like my 229 they would have said something when Ruby said something similar here.

dunnstral explain why you've already made half as many posts in this game as you did in those villager games you linked me

[Kokichi Oma]

not sure why you see moisto and koki as lynchbait already,

Past experiences probably. As I'm always mislynched because people dont like the way I post

[Kokichi Oma]

Like, I dont understand. I assumed one thing was not a joke thus me seeing it as a contradiction. Suddenly I'm scum from it from like 5 people. Something that came 2 pages in. No one else finds it weird? It's what happens every single game I'm town.

[Kokichi Oma]

Asuka I still think is shady. Just scumreading who everyone else scumreads and lurkers

[Kokichi Oma]

If I was faking reads, it would be easy to do the same thing

[Kokichi Oma]

Why are people not replying to me. Except lapsa

[Kokichi Oma]

Why are people not replying to me. Except lapsa

I have a hard time parsing your posts. Did you actually have a question for me.

I have a similar problem with Lapsa’s posts, it’s hard for me to follow your guys’ trains of thought.

Okay, what's your read on me?

[Kokichi Oma]

@maria give me your Dunn read

No comment atm

I want a wagon on kokichi given he seems to be the common link in all this and while I don't really scumread him hard my only 2 big scumreads seem to be connected. And I don't think you guys will wagon dunn so (B

Maria could be scum. No way she just votes me like this if she's town and she says she doesn't scum read me. I will link games that show she could be scum here just for this vote alone.

Did I not say I sr you..Cause I do O_o

@Maria why do you want a wagon on someone you dont scumread? I dont buy the linking bullshit

I do sr you

To me, it seems like trying to just jump on the bandwagon and trying to not take blame when I flip town and say "well I told you I didnt scum read him"

hey no fair I sr people for the exact same thing!

Why are you voting person you dont scumread much over your scumreads. And what's the "connection" you said earlier

[Kokichi Oma]

@SS in 267- "Can someone tell me why they thought that post from Ausuka was towny...I mean it was just a list to me" "How do you feel about Aus the trs to that slot make me go "huh" because I don't get it very much at all." "Well duh I looked at the post and it was nothing great"

I have a hard time parsing your posts. Did you actually have a question for me.

I have a similar problem with Lapsa’s posts, it’s hard for me to follow your guys’ trains of thought.

Okay, what's your read on me?

I put you back in the null bucket. My prior read was based on a bad premise, so I'm doing my best to set it aside and investigate elsewhere. I don't want to bias my evaluation because I thought you were scummy before for something it turns out you didn't do.

Also, I have a hard time reading your posts so my instinct is to skip over them. Which I know is bad but I have a hard time reading a flurry of one sentence posts. Conveniently plenty of other people are chatting with you so I don't have to feel too terrible about not sorting the slot directly.

Who do you town read and scum read?

[Kokichi Oma]

Ruby why do you still scumread me even though it was a misunderstanding

[Kokichi Oma]

Mumble claimed miller?

How would you miss that, there was a discussion about it.

[Kokichi Oma]

except kokichi that is

No idea why you refuse to reevaluate me.

[Kokichi Oma]

eat a rope

VOTE: Zoronos

This is an awful vote. Like, I want to see your reasoning to see if it's even plausible to come up with a reason to vote him there.

[Kokichi Oma]

*Kokichi gets scumread (as always when I see them play), and I feel like they mostly get it because of their style of posting, rather than what they post. I'll try to sort them tomorrow too, but I think that D1-reads on them tend to be wrong anyway.

Whenever I get scumread, I'm town. Whenever I get townread, I'm scum. It's what I've noticed.

Maybe I should just play every game like I'm scum.

[Kokichi Oma]

@Maria in 285- I mean I could see that but it feels like the effort was repeated and it seemed like you were actively trying to discredit instead of just asking "why is Ausuka town?" once like I'd expect town to do in that scenario? idk.

I guess it's definitely possible for Zoronos to be scum, but I'm not really seeing it. I was expecting him to do more with the question about my scumreads, though; he kinda just asked me and then ignored my answer. I agree that there's scum in the lurkers, but then again, there's always scum in the lurkers.

330 looks towny at first glance but I'll probably get a better read on unabombah once he posts whatever he's planning to w/ the reread.

There are 1-2 scum in {Espeonage, Mr Moisto, Arcangel9}

Koki wagon is going nowhere, so I want to try this.
VOTE: Mr Moisto

I thought you said Maria was scum?

[Kokichi Oma]

Something Smart's post there struck me as not-alignment-indicating - a fluffy post of a basic mafia truism; that early reads tend to be low quality. What struck you as scummy about it?

Zoronos read I follow and agree with. Seems to be genuinely solving and analyzing.

zero votes

abundance of townreads

filler questions

You quote none of the actual substance he's posted at all.

[Kokichi Oma]

Ruby why do you still scumread me even though it was a misunderstanding

what are you saying was a misunderstanding?

I didn't realize the post you made was a joke when you said Unabomb was wolfy, which is why I had that reaction.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Zoronos

I am either a town read or a scum read. For you to have me as null is horrible. Your entire post now reads as fake.

I missed this, but at least you give a solid reason as to why you think this. His "eat rope" and vote him randomly, and then bad explanation stands out to me.

[Kokichi Oma]

Then why did Zoro say it was?

Either way, I like Ruby's posts but I don't like how he's tunneling over a page 2 post that is just initial reads.

[Kokichi Oma]

I missed that one, thanks. Then, I don't understand what's scummy? How is me disagreeing with his logic scummy?

[Kokichi Oma]

I want to know the answer to that last quote too

[Kokichi Oma]

notice how kokichi seems to constantly miss things in his catchup posts

him saying he was busy actually gave me some doubt on my read as that shit has burned me before trying to read people who were playing while distracted. here's the thing: if kokichi were a villager he'd spend the time he spends on his flurry posts reading closer and typing up more meaningful posts.

Look at my game that just ended, Asuka was in that game. I was saying I was busy in that game too. And I was town. So? I've just had a busy work schedule. Are you saying only town can pay attention? Scum is incapable of paying attention? Those are the only 2 options?

[Kokichi Oma]

listen, nine times out of ten your initial gut instinct on something will be just as good if not ---far better--- than thinking about it for a month and a half

once the lurkers post or get subbed i'm ready to wrap this day up

If lynchers were normal, I'd say you were lyncher on me.

[Kokichi Oma]

notice how kokichi seems to constantly miss things in his catchup posts

him saying he was busy actually gave me some doubt on my read as that shit has burned me before trying to read people who were playing while distracted. here's the thing: if kokichi were a villager he'd spend the time he spends on his flurry posts reading closer and typing up more meaningful posts.

Look at my game that just ended, Asuka was in that game. I was saying I was busy in that game too. And I was town. So? I've just had a busy work schedule. Are you saying only town can pay attention? Scum is incapable of paying attention? Those are the only 2 options?

you're missing my point, i'm inclined to think intentionally

i'm not calling you wolf because you're busy. never said that. what i said was that even when someone's busy there's a difference between the way an irl busy villager interacts with the game vs an irl busy wolf. that game you mentioned is actually a perfect contrast to this one. busy, start the game, admit you don't have reads. villager. nothing like this game.

That is not true at all

[Kokichi Oma]

I've given 1 read I think here

[Kokichi Oma]

maybe but like I think there's a solid chance Koki is just mislynch bait town and I think the chances moisto is a lurker town are a lot smaller. I might vote koki at the end of my catchup depending on what happens with him and moisto.

So..You're saying it's a solid chance I'm town. But. You say you might vote me over your scumleans?

[Kokichi Oma]

Well, it wasn't really like that. You just didn't really have any reads early on, which is a pretty stark contrast to how you've played this game so far.

How? I've said people are suspicious but the only read I gave was Ruby scum, and that I already took back

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes I'm pointing out what I see. But I have voted one person

[Kokichi Oma]

Meta. But, I did the same exact thing before.

[Kokichi Oma]

What is deep wolf

[Kokichi Oma]

Interesting, I never knew there was a term for that.

[Kokichi Oma]

^ What?

[Kokichi Oma]

Which now sheds some pretty shitty light on kok for both not voting and not being pointed in the way zoro was.

What?

[Kokichi Oma]

Why is no one making any sense

[Kokichi Oma]

Okay, that makes more sense

[Kokichi Oma]

@kokichi make a move and vote someone

Okay. VOTE: lapsa

[Kokichi Oma]

like mobb deep but instead of a sick rap group it's a wolf that bad towns can't lynch

Hahaha

[Kokichi Oma]

I believe you that its NAI

[Kokichi Oma]

@kokichi why do you scumread me?

I made like 5 posts of it, but I'll quote when I'm free

[Kokichi Oma]

what worries me though is already raised argument that kokichi is fence sitting too much

How exactly am I fence sitting. I literally gave out one read, and pushed on it. I dont like this post.

what worries me though is already raised argument that kokichi is fence sitting too much

Yeah this didn't happen

As in, nobody said that to my knowledge and looking over the thread briefly

Yeah, I think Lapsa was making up that whole post, I posted about it earlier.

anyhow - wanted kokichi to take the spotlight instead of silently going down

Pretty sure I've had the most posts in the game so no idea what you mean by this either

eat a rope

VOTE: Zoronos

This is an awful vote. Like, I want to see your reasoning to see if it's even plausible to come up with a reason to vote him there.

Something Smart's post there struck me as not-alignment-indicating - a fluffy post of a basic mafia truism; that early reads tend to be low quality. What struck you as scummy about it?

Zoronos read I follow and agree with. Seems to be genuinely solving and analyzing.

zero votes

abundance of townreads

filler questions

You quote none of the actual substance he's posted at all.

@lapsa

[Kokichi Oma]

Ruby sticking to his page 2 read over an early read is worrying.

[Kokichi Oma]

You have not tried to engage me at all, which is what I assume someone with a tunnel on someone would do

[Kokichi Oma]

Because it's lazy af and being lazy af is scummy

How ironic

[Kokichi Oma]

Because when I scumread someone, I try to engage them. To see if I'm making a mistake or if they are bad town. But, you havent even tried.

[Kokichi Oma]

Let's say I'm lynched today and I flip town. Then what? Does that change your reads at all? Or say if I'm suddenly confirmed town right now, what about your reads change?

[Kokichi Oma]

Let's say I'm lynched today and I flip town. Then what? Does that change your reads at all? Or say if I'm suddenly confirmed town right now, what about your reads change?

If you flip town it actually probably makes me think Ruby is town.

Not really the point I was trying to get across. But, now I'm curious. why? Does that mean you think hes scum if im scum? Or you just think hes town regardless of my flip

[Kokichi Oma]

Because it would explain the blind attack.

I remember thinking a thing on you while I was having fever dreams but I have literally not reread anything, and I'm worried it's conf bias from another game so I want to observe.

That's what I assumed right away, which is why I didnt question your vote

[Kokichi Oma]

Who townreads lapsa? If so tell me why

[Kokichi Oma]

2 days left, why rush a lunch on someone you said could be town?

[Kokichi Oma]

Lynch*

[Kokichi Oma]

You townread lapsa more than me ?

[Kokichi Oma]

"Literally anyone could be town" you could say that every game ever. That doesn't explain my question which I was asking mumble.

Also why do you townread lapsa?

[Kokichi Oma]

Ruby has just been tunneling me. Espionage voted me likely out of conf bias from another game [which he stated himself was very likely] and Maria has just parked her vote on me for no reason other than "connections" to other people yet has not even pushed her actual scum reads. If I was actually scummy, I could understand but the votes on me are terrible. I'm just tired of being mislynched EVERY. FUCKING GAME.

[Kokichi Oma]

This is like my first game here. Which I believe Maria modded. Wisdom tunneled me for no God dam reason, and I was mislynched for no reason even though I believed I was trying hard like I am this game.

[Kokichi Oma]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=73987

This game

[Kokichi Oma]

Its literally the same shit.

[Kokichi Oma]

The fact that Maria hasn't even commented on that is suspicious as hell

[Kokichi Oma]

The one game where I've actually made it to end game as town I was 2/3 and lynched last mafia to win. So if I wasnt mislynched every game, maybe town would do better in games I'm town.

[Kokichi Oma]

What's your read on Espeonage?

Its probably conf bias from another game. And he stated he was sick which is why I havent commented on his vote much. I think he was supposed to come back today and read since he hasn't read much

[Kokichi Oma]

@mod can we get an extension on the deadline since we had a replacement.

[Kokichi Oma]

What's your read on Espeonage?

I know you were scum in that game, but in the mafia month was my reads not accurate and I was still lynched anyway for whatever reason? Do you not see the parallels at all?

[Kokichi Oma]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=74973

This is the conf bias game.

[Kokichi Oma]

Even though I feel my play is nothing alike, since I was most joking a lot that game and this game I've been more serious.

[Kokichi Oma]

What's your read on Espeonage?

Its probably conf bias from another game. And he stated he was sick which is why I havent commented on his vote much. I think he was supposed to come back today and read since he hasn't read much

Idk. He's been talking plenty but almost none of it has been alignment-related. And from what I understand when I read his ISO, he was sick earlier in the day, but not anymore. Can you link me to the game you believe he's confbiased from?

I think the way you've been acting on this page is quite towny but Lapsa is just not an alternative I'm willing to take you up on.

Who are your scum reads? Or leans?

[Kokichi Oma]

I was scum that game for the conf bias

[Kokichi Oma]

I forgot Arc was in this game.

[Kokichi Oma]

Would you be willing to reveal who you are an alt of Kokichi?
I have no idea who you are, and why you get mislynched every game, but I think it HAS TO HAVE something to do with your playstyle. (because it apparently happens so often)
So maybe shedding a little light to your main could help us get some context for it?

I'm not an alt. People just just dont like me because I'm the Ultimate Supreme Leader

[Kokichi Oma]

2 days left, why rush a lunch on someone you said could be town?

Because we have two days left and it's the weekend when players are usually not around much. I don't want to have a deadline rush lynch, and I definitely do not want a no lynch.

I'd prefer a Una lynch at this point, but I don't think support for that is going to happen.

Who else would you be willing to lynch. What's your lapsa read?

[Kokichi Oma]

@Mod would also request an extention

I would rather like to be able to v/la and catch up in peace but could vote: (Kokichi Lapsa Dunn)

Respond to my post from earlier mentioning your game

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes, I set up someone tunneling me and people vote parking me for no reason.

[Kokichi Oma]

Ruby are you known to vote park a lot? Can you link me a recent town game

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm waiting on Espeonage still, to see where he stands.

[Kokichi Oma]

No idea that's the point. Gun to my head you AND kok

So why do you think I'm scum? I thought your vote was admitted confirming bias? And you think im scum with ruby why?

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Espeonage

Its possible hes just scum vote parking. He hasn't even explained his vote on me. Hes just vote parked since day 1

[Kokichi Oma]

Page*

[Kokichi Oma]

ArcAngel9 will be replaced for inactivity

@mod can we get an extension for these replacements?

[Kokichi Oma]

Why? Also I thought you were willing to vote Espeonage?

[Kokichi Oma]

I'd rather get lynched lynching my scumread than just jump on someone who could be town

[Kokichi Oma]

Ducky, why do you townread Esp?

[Kokichi Oma]

Pretty sure its 3 on me and 3 on espeonage right now. Mumble doesn't even scum read me, so he probably flips

[Kokichi Oma]

My wagon consists of 2 people voting me since pages 1 and 2. And 1 person who says I'm probably town, but just wanted to vote since it's the weekend

[Kokichi Oma]

Espeonage wagon consists of people actually scumreading him for non RVS things

[Kokichi Oma]

Maria why havent you responded to my post yet. You are fence sitting

[Kokichi Oma]

Got it. We have 1 day and a few hours just so you know.

[Kokichi Oma]

Ruby why have you not linked me a town game of yours yet

[Kokichi Oma]

What about that pings you?

[Kokichi Oma]

My wagon consists of 2 people voting me since pages 1 and 2. And 1 person who says I'm probably town, but just wanted to vote since it's the weekend

discredit my vote more

Well it's the truth

[Kokichi Oma]

turning caps lock on

VOTE: Espeonage

Its possible hes just scum vote parking. He hasn't even explained his vote on me. Hes just vote parked since day 1

THIS IS KOKICHIS SINGULAR WOLFREAD FOR THIS ENTIRE FUCKING DAY

READ IT

READ IT AGAIN

THEN TYPE "VOTE: KOKICHI" AND PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THE WOLF FLIP

HE HAS DONE FUCKING NOTHING EXCEPT WHINE ABOUT THE THREE VOTES ON HIM THIS ENTIRE FUCKING DAY AND THEN THIS IS WHAT HE COMES UP WITH FOR THE TOKEN END OF DAY FLASHWAGON ON TOWN

Misrepresentation. I clearly said I scumread lapsa.

[Kokichi Oma]

Thank you for proving my point. You can't vote park and then call everyone in the game scum and call everyone in the game town. It doesn't work like that. You actually have to take a stand and fucking stick with it or actually show why the fuck it has changed.

This is a good post, because that's how I feel about Ruby

[Kokichi Oma]

I realize who Morality is

Does your read change from this?

[Kokichi Oma]

We could make Lapsa a viable wagon?

how about we vote kokichi

How about you duck off. You are being annoying just tunneling. Serious question, are you a Wisdom alt?

[Kokichi Oma]

Do either of you actually think the other is flipping red here?

(pun intended! :3)


Probably down to vote Koki

Didnt you just say I was towny?

[Kokichi Oma]

Koki's disappearance felt tactical.

Otherwise I got nuthin.

pedit: Morality how many scum do you reckon were in that conversation? First impressions?

Bullshit. Sorry for being at work. Your last few posts have been shady as hell.

[Kokichi Oma]

When I analyze players to determine their alignment, the main thing I think about is mindset. What is a person's mindset when making a particular post? Is it more likely to come from a villager or from a wolf? Does this person's mindset reveal anything about his or her motivations?

You should google 'kokichi oma' read the wiki, then come back here and tell me if you understand my motivations better

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Lapsa

I like this

[Kokichi Oma]

I'd also be down to lynch the worst

[Kokichi Oma]

wanna lynch Koki now

This is likely scum. He states me being away was tactical when I was never online. Then votes me for that reason alone

[Kokichi Oma]

I would love to lynch the worst but I dont think we have the time

[Kokichi Oma]

Town was way overpowered lol. Gg though