Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #23 (isolation #0) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:55 pm

i voted myself
then i voted cupcake because i wanted scum to kill him
then i voted myloninja because cupcake is probably scum and i wanted scum to kill myloninja instead
then i voted myself because i read rule 7
then i looked at the player list and realised i didn't give a shit who got voted leader
then i voted myloninja again for shits and giggles

i am completely and utterly astonished that myloninja didnt end up getting voted leader, he was clearly the most qualified candidate

Vote: Cupcake

99% sure he rolled scum this game. i may say this every game but this time i'm not joking

please help me lynch him before he is able to post

zMuffinMan · Post Post #39 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:00 pm

pretty sure scum (at least if theyre smart) just voted whoever they thought they might vote as town and the majority of votes just happened to land on FA

i doubt they piled onto FA

i doubt they aren't going to truthfully claim who they voted

any smart scum would be playing the long game; whoever gets voted D1 doesn't matter (except insofar as you want to get into the league of extraordinary gentlemuffins). sac the D1 leader position (if scum gets voted, it's good for them, but if not, it doesn't matter), manipulate reads in such a way that you can vote scum on later nights is the long term plan for any smart scum team. there was obviously going to be a mass claim of votes; better to just be truthful about it D1 and manipulate shit later...

zMuffinMan · Post Post #95 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:31 pm

In post 79, Frozen Angel wrote:firey

fiery*

im helpful

zMuffinMan · Post Post #109 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:11 pm

this could be the one and only game ever run on MS where scum didn't have pregame chat

seems likely

zMuffinMan · Post Post #111 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:17 pm

well i just think after thousands of games that have been run with pre-game chat, brian decided "you know what? pregame chat sucks and i hate scum and i'm not gonna let them have it" and so he didn't

it just makes sense

zMuffinMan · Post Post #116 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:26 pm

In post 114, Chickadee wrote:This comment seems to disagree with that sentiment.

not really...

zMuffinMan · Post Post #127 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:48 pm

In post 48, Toranaga wrote:(katsuki, bbmolla and chickadee)

no // tentative yeah // yeah

In post 75, 123456789 wrote:So Toronaga town, Human scum

yeah // maybe, but need more data

In post 87, BBmolla wrote:I voted Katsuki and firmly believe he should have been leader.

jesus christ...

In post 120, Human Sequencer wrote:sando is towny

yeah

zMuffinMan · Post Post #130 (isolation #7) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:54 pm

In post 129, Frozen Angel wrote:reads/points

dont feel like it atm // if i made any points, it was an accident and i apologise

zMuffinMan · Post Post #135 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:05 pm

maybe drixx is scum

zMuffinMan · Post Post #139 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:09 pm

In post 137, Cerberus v666 wrote:@zmuffin: You really did make points. :-/

i already apologised. do you want me to prostrate myself and beg forgiveness or something?

i won't do it again. sorry

zMuffinMan · Post Post #146 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:16 pm

hmm, ive actually been more forward with stating reads than i initially planned to be in this game so i'm going to stay quiet for a while and observe proceedings and maybe ask questions here or there

zMuffinMan · Post Post #156 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:29 pm

because when i give reads, i get people asking why and i don't feel like answering why this early - you either follow my thought process or you don't and i don't particularly care if you don't atm

zMuffinMan · Post Post #166 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:39 pm

In post 161, Frozen Angel wrote:you should care about people not having the same opinion/ not understanding your opinion

when i feel like lynching someone or when someone i think is likely town is going to be lynched, then i will say so and perhaps explain why

otherwise, i honestly don't care right now what you think of me or my reads

zMuffinMan · Post Post #169 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:51 pm

think what you want to think

zMuffinMan · Post Post #189 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:02 am

In post 187, brassherald wrote:And also I agree, I recently was telling a friend he's elitist for claiming to have the Great Gatsby as his favorite book.

why are you friends with him?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #431 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:40 pm

i believe his claim. it sounds legit

zMuffinMan · Post Post #433 (isolation #16) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:41 pm

i don't see why he'd lie about that. i trust cupcake to tell the truth

zMuffinMan · Post Post #436 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:44 pm

hmm, you might be correct. but i just don't see cupcake as the sort of person to lie about something like that... i'd find it strange if he made that up for no reason

zMuffinMan · Post Post #443 (isolation #18) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:57 pm

almost like those are out of game references but it's truly baffling why

brian skies

of all people would choose those names... this is a mystery we need to spend several pages trying to crack

zMuffinMan · Post Post #448 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:21 pm

dont worry, cupcake

regardless of who it is, ill help you find and murder sprinkled delight and his or her companions for giving you thst damnable post restriction

how truly evil of them

zMuffinMan · Post Post #450 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:24 pm

huh? i didnt say his vote was scummy and i think hes town for that post restriction post

cupcake is never a bad vote though

zMuffinMan · Post Post #453 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:28 pm

i disagreed cupcake's vote on me was town, didnt say he was scum for it

his last two posts are pretty town though

zMuffinMan · Post Post #489 (isolation #22) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:38 am

In post 479, Gamma Emerald wrote:Do you have any actual scumreads?

yeah

zMuffinMan · Post Post #496 (isolation #23) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:48 am

it's a form of weather where snow falls from the sky

zMuffinMan · Post Post #543 (isolation #24) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:27 am

seems reasonable, in my opinion

zMuffinMan · Post Post #559 (isolation #25) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:45 am

stop quoting entire fucking chains of posts

jesus fucking christ

quote the relevant content alone

zMuffinMan · Post Post #649 (isolation #26) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:36 pm

why does it matter?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #651 (isolation #27) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:45 pm

no, voting cupcake is always righteous and just

zMuffinMan · Post Post #652 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:51 pm

consider it a placeholder until i decide who i want to push today

zMuffinMan · Post Post #655 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:12 pm

do you have any reads?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #657 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:20 pm

what's the difference?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #659 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:32 pm

i dont see how there's any more of a point in unvoting

you seem to have (somehow) figured out that im not scum reading him (maybe you're just a mafia savant and it's not as obvious to others) and he's not in any danger of being lynched so there's effectively no reason to

zMuffinMan · Post Post #663 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:05 pm

what are the consensus reads?

@worst

zMuffinMan · Post Post #666 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:21 pm

do you have any thoughts on titus, 123456789, human sequencer or gamma emerald?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #682 (isolation #34) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:28 am

In post 668, the worst wrote:[Titus] comes from a place of sensibility

wow... definitely a sentence that has never been written before

zMuffinMan · Post Post #684 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:32 am

just saying, there's a first time for everything and you are probably the first person to write that sequence of words in that order

zMuffinMan · Post Post #686 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:41 am

no, i've just never seen titus described as seeming sensible so that amazed me

though do point me to places titus has talked about something other than the leadership mechanic - i may have missed something

zMuffinMan · Post Post #688 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:52 am

wait, did you say you thought i'm town? if so, why?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #692 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:13 am

wellllll, you do know, even if you didnt before. because i just explicitly told you

zMuffinMan · Post Post #700 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:05 am

In post 698, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I’m not shocked that he voted Katsuki. He did that in Minuet as well but I don’t remember him hardcore defending him to this extent. Also, he seems different here than it that game. He was quite vocal and outspoken. I don’t know if that’s necessarily AI but his tone seems off somewhat.

how observant!

zMuffinMan · Post Post #703 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:39 am

@cupcake

read human sequencer and 123456789 ISOs and tell me what you see

zMuffinMan · Post Post #708 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:07 am

uh... i was trying to say "i like cheese" but for some reason it came out as "read human sequencer and 123456789 ISOs and tell me what you see"

strange

zMuffinMan · Post Post #709 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:08 am

thanks for picking up on the typo, though

zMuffinMan · Post Post #713 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:14 am

i just wanted to see what cupcake said about those two

@sakura

read human sequencer and 123456789 ISOs and tell me what you see

zMuffinMan · Post Post #716 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:21 am

they're both scum, obviously

zMuffinMan · Post Post #717 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:22 am

there's a link between them but it's not important

they're both scum individually

zMuffinMan · Post Post #720 (isolation #46) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:29 am

the link? no. need more data before i talk about that

why they're scum individually? i thought it would be obvious to anyone who'd read their ISOs - if you don't see it, then you don't see it

i'll throw you a bone and say that there's a lack of incisive commentary from either player and that plays a part in it. think about the movitations behind why they ask the particular questions they ask too

zMuffinMan · Post Post #726 (isolation #47) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:36 am

im not looking for particular posts. both of them are body of work reads. perhaps ill go into more detail on this later

im not as confident as id like to be but i think i have a decent enough grasp of the game right now that i wouldn't mind seeing either of them lynched

zMuffinMan · Post Post #729 (isolation #48) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:01 am

In post 727, hebichan wrote:I feel like in particular his flip on his read on you was a bit weird, was my point.

it's interesting. it's one point in the sea of posts though and less telling than, say, just reading through either of the times he consecutively spam-posted across a couple pages but said... absolutely nothing worth reading in those posts

i might post from my notes but they're unorganised (chronological) and im not sure if i can be bothered cutting and pasting the parts about number dude and human sequencer into a readable format

zMuffinMan · Post Post #790 (isolation #49) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:26 pm

In post 777, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:One is in Japanese (can anyone translate?) and involves a soldier

無敵のSoldier probably is a bulletproof crumb!?!

cupcake, are you crumbing bulletproof?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #794 (isolation #50) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:40 pm

i gave my reason fyi

"for shits and giggles"

(also p sure i was right in the first post i made on this - someone in the scum team said "hey, for D1 just vote someone who you think you'd vote if you were town" and whether or not the votes were split or ended up on the same person depends on who's actually scum)

(it may have been 5 separate votes, it may have been 2 or 3 on one person, depends on who's scum and who they think they'd be expected to vote if they were town)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #796 (isolation #51) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:52 pm

im the only one who said that and no (though why i think they might be scum together matters little in comparison to the fact i have individual scum reads on both)

(though ive only skimmed recent stuff and haven't read through hs's most recent string of posts in any depth)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #799 (isolation #52) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:11 pm

*tumbleweed*

zMuffinMan · Post Post #806 (isolation #53) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:51 pm

just do something like pick two people and split votes between them overnight (if one of them is killed, the other becomes leader by default, assuming they amassed the most or second-most votes)

do it publicly before day ends

dont give scum any chances to vote outside of those two people

(and if you disagree with both possible candidates, do not publicly declare who you will be voting for)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #809 (isolation #54) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:05 pm

that's fine. that's the point, actually...

for example...

pick two people (cerb and sando for example's sake, but put this to a public vote i guess)

if you have a town read on one of them, you vote inside those two names (no excuses - voting outside of these two names would explicitly mean you're not town reading either of them)

if you don't have a town read on one of them, you don't declare who you're voting for today, and this makes for a somewhat interesting scenario if a name outside of the two gets elected leader (because, really, it would have to be a co-ordinated effort)

or...

just force people to vote in those two names and claim it before the day ends so there's a roughly even split (e.g. 10ish people on each name), but this can be kinda iffy if theyre not both universal town reads (and i don't think i've seen someone that's actually a universal town read yet)

*shrug*

zMuffinMan · Post Post #815 (isolation #55) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:57 pm

in all honesty, i don't give a flying fuck about the leadership mechanic (it's cool and all, but it's a huge distraction in terms of signal:noise ratio in game) and i'll be playing this as though it's mountainous

i was just making a suggestion that made sense to me. i don't care whether or not it gets followed or what actually happens with it

i'm probably not going to be talking about mechanics anymore unless i spot something i think is egregious enough that it requires correction

zMuffinMan · Post Post #897 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:24 am

complain about game length

proceed to post 20 or so 1-line single-quote responses

zMuffinMan · Post Post #930 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:02 pm

In post 923, Nosferatu wrote:i woke up this morning and thought

"well golly it would just make my day if ircher just took a whole page to ask headass questions"

and thank my stars that wish came true

what else did you expect to happen after he complained about the game growing too fast?

zMuffinMan · Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:54 pm

im uh... like 20 pages behind in terms of paying proper attention to anything anyone has said instead of just skimming. maybe i'll do some reading tonight

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zMuffinMan · Post Post #1034 (isolation #60) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:22 am

the most impressive thing about this game is that sando has 39 posts, not a shred of scum hunting in

any

of them and i still think he seems town

kudos, sir

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1035 (isolation #61) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:24 am

well, cupcake is the same, but cupcake is a special case

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1037 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:51 am

@sakura,
cerberus is most likely town
had a mild town read on brass, replace-out seemed town (almost definitely so if string of numbers is scum)

so yeah

this is my not-entirely-sorted-but-good-enough-for-D1 list, and i want to lynch upward atm (pending changes, if i get a better grasp of the people in it):

sando
ND39

nico
human sequencer

the worst
titus
bbMolla
myloninja
drixx
123456789

"why is cupcake not in that list?" - because he's probably town
"why is kokichi not in that list?" - because he's probably town

also, consider the following: getting rid of string of numbers means getting rid of the abomination that was pages 36-38

if it wasn't already good enough that he's probably scum, that should be all the incentive anyone needs to burn it with fire

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1038 (isolation #63) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:55 am

T1: sakura, FA, chickadee, cerb, toranaga

T2: gamma, hebi, shiro, brass
T2.5: cupcake**, kokichi**

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1040 (isolation #64) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:02 am

he's too jovial to be scum

lemme check my notes (yeah, i actually took notes up until reading pages 24 and 25 destroyed my soul)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1042 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:14 am

it took me two full days to get to the bottom of page 24. it broke me

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1044 (isolation #66) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:24 am

@sakura

oh yeah, nothing that's going to convince you if you already think otherwise, but i thought that post you thought was bad was actually town (353 - i apparently thought it was too brazen to come from scum). made note of some other crap being townish such as 472, 494, 564/565, and then i stopped taking notes but i thought a couple things he wrote before i gave up trying to take notes seemed town on P24 or P25 don't remember

overall, tone of posts doesnt feel particularly serious i guess? jovial is a good word. natural-sounding? genuine? whatever

as a side note, i realised i should probably move hebi up to T1 for the alisae vote in 413 (which was - and still is - hilarious to me) (rest of that post seems town too, though)

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:07 pm

here we go again...

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:23 pm

looks like you managed it just fine there!

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1173 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:05 am

it's not super important but i took numbers dude's advice and looked up his games to see how he normally posts

if anyone wants to do some reading, compare the following:

town: viewtopic.php?p=10158919&user_select%5B ... #p10158919
here: viewtopic.php?p=10295370&user_select%5B ... #p10295370

(hint: while he also spam posts like this as town, that's not the important part)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1178 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:36 am

In post 1037, zMuffinMan wrote:sando
ND39

nico
human sequencer
myloninja

the worst
randomidget
titus
bbMolla
drixx
123456789

slight adjustment of my lynch-upward list (mylo up slightly, added randomidget who i forgot existed)

maybe sando shouldn't be in that list but i don't really care enough to sort it further atm. i should be asleep right now

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1308 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:42 pm

In post 1288, Toranaga wrote:it feels like scum who knows what's up

i have literally said that's what happened on more than one occasion (i said that on page 2, even)

am i also scum who knows what's up?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1316 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:00 pm

my thoughts re: lynching anyone but numbers dude today

Spoiler:

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1320 (isolation #73) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:04 pm

In post 1319, Ankamius wrote:like at best, this is town hypernitpicking

at worst, it's scum hypernitpicking

truly profound

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1403 (isolation #74) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:49 pm

does the worst actually think numbers dude and ankamius are scum together?

if so, why is he voting the player that isn't getting lynched over the one who is?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1404 (isolation #75) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:50 pm

oh wait he's voting shiro, thought he was voting ankamius

that's even worse

the worst, even

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1407 (isolation #76) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:55 pm

im uh, like 15 pages of actual reading behind (i.e. not skimming and skipping every other post) so uh... ill try to read this afternoon. had a busy week. gonna hopefully get all my work done earlyish today so i can go home early and i have most of the weekend free too so you all get to enjoy my company! i bet you're all looking forward to that!

inb4 half the game replaces out

zMuffinMan · Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:22 pm

i figure this game is like a bandaid i just need to rip off and get it done with

1037 was the last time i was mostly caught up on this thread. time to do some reading i suppose

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1597 (isolation #78) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:09 am

i'm nowhere near as confident as i want to be about this game (sucks when you're not really

in

the game, but i've been pretty busy so meh). basically my current thoughts (with lots of rambling)...

pretty happy just calling sakura town (just isn't playing like scum imo). pretty happy just calling FA town (just isn't playing like scum imo). pretty happy just calling nosferatu town (more because i thought chickadee was fairly obviously town than nosferatu's posting but i haven't minded his posting either i guess)

cerb i'm mostly happy calling town. had a skim through the gistou game sakura referenced. don't think he was displaying the same traits i'm seeing here. not a bet-the-game read but good enough for D1

toranaga i'm going to say is probably town despite some misgivings i have about some stances (shiro read and reasoning was pretty meh, for example). but overall play seems town, tone seems town, and there was that dumb alisae stuff that probably didn't come from scum. less confident than the above reads, still probably town enough that i don't want to lynch him any time soon

a tier down...

hebi seems likely town (seems genuine enough). shiro seems likely town (seems genuine enough)
gamma seems likely town but with some reservations (i need to look into how he plays since i have no baseline for his scum game but his approach here just seems town)
brass's replace-out was almost certainly town if numbers dude is scum (hint: i currently think numbers dude is scum). i guess ankamius seems town, too

sando seems town but i kind of want him to just stop talking about the setup altogether

cupcake hasn't said anything in an attempt to seem town. probably a good sign
kokichi hasn't done anything but i think he may be town anyway (this one is pretty tentative and conditional on whether i like other things he writes)

mostly ignoring all the above names for now, pending resorting based on flips and whether or not i'm alive d2
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don't really agree with ankamius's stuff about nancy being scum. some of the things she's written have seemed townish to me but she hasn't done anything that makes me think she can't be scum yet. not interested in lynching her today probably

human sequencer i can't in good faith put anywhere near my town pile. i guess i'm having a hard time reading him because he's not playing like he was in our last game. i found it pretty easy to read him as town there. not here. dunno if i'm just imagining the difference but he seemed, uh... more inquisitive and more interested in finding scum in that game, i guess? here he's been all buddy-buddy with me. probably need to do some serious reassessing of his posts d2 but i'm not really interested in lynching him today so don't care about sorting him further atm

not enough info to go on with nico. posts feel ever-so-slightly town but nothing concrete
not enough info to go on with randomidget. posts feel ever-so-slightly town but nothing concrete
same for mylo, i guess - thought his meta thingo with ankamius was kind of awkward but ever-so-slightly townish (if i squint a bit) but not enough to go on yet

i thought bbMolla's entrance into the game seemed townish, but i expected him to actually follow that up with town-looking content. not a fan of the whole copy-cupcake thing he has going on atm
drixx's first post bugged me. his attempts to get back into the game haven't really changed this. still, not enough info here

titus has spent far too much time on iioa. titus's scum hunting hasn't impressed me. some things she's said felt i guess kind of town but easily fakeable and there's not enough of it yet. need to look into whether she's the type of scum who buses because that was the first thought that came to mind when i saw her numbers dude vote

the worst just doesn't look town. weird questions. weird reads. weird stances. weird posturing. weird everything. could also very well be scum with numbers dude

and then there's numbers dude. from what i've seen, he actually does proper scum hunting when he's town and _looks_ town. here not at all. a lot of the questions look like questions asked for the sake of asking them (e.g. there's very little to no "why are you reading X as town/scum?" and all too many useless questions). reads have been pretty boring in terms of trajectory and substance behind them. the tone of his posts looks more mechanical than genuine. honestly going to be surprised if he's town

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1598 (isolation #79) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:25 am

oh yeah, i suppose i'll talk a little about what i thought the connection between numbers dude and human sequencer was early on. probably not whatever ankamius thinks it was - actually had to do with their read on me and how i think scum was generally approaching me as an entity in this game. not going to go into too much detail about all my thoughts on this, but my wagon stalled for a long time and i was thinking that had a lot to do with scum being wary about piling onto me for certain reasons and i figured there was some plan in place to play around me specifically (arrogant as this may sound)

so, for example, things like human sequencer asking nico robin for her read on me (honestly, why her specifically and why me specifically?) and the way he seemed far too certain i was town far too early (imo) plus numbers dude's odd stances on me (though he never showed any intent to vote me) piqued my interest a bit and for a while i was monitoring who said what about me but then i got busy and stopped caring about this so nothing ever came of it. *shrug*

not super important to the game, just something that i thought was interesting early on. it wasn't playing a factor in my scum read on either of them individually. i mostly threw it out in public to stir things up a bit (but then i stopped being as attentive when work started kicking my ass so meh)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1600 (isolation #80) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:37 am

stop quoting giant posts and writing a single line in response

i don't even think you really understand what the worst meant when he talked about whether or not there was a better vote so your question seems pointless to me. or i don't understand what you think was town about it if you actually do understand what he meant

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1602 (isolation #81) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:59 am

i would rather not since i don't particularly like being put in a position to defend someone i'm not strongly town reading

i'm looking past the things i would normally scum-read a player for because they don't apply to nancy. i found that out last game. instead i'm taking a different approach to reading her and that read isn't solidified yet

i don't think her 'tone being subdued' is important (and i'm not sure i even agree with that statement). at least not right now. i think she's said some things that seemed townish to me but i'm too tired atm to bother going back through whatever notes i took on that. she's far from being a solid town read though. just don't agree she looks like scum

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1607 (isolation #82) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:22 am

yeah, well, i mean... it's not like she's a strong town read of mine, i just am not convinced that not looking obvtown is concrete (i disagree she even looked obvtown early on in that other game but whatever). maybe after sleep i'll read back over nancy and tell you what i think but atm i'm fine with numbers dude and titus being competing wagons for today

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1609 (isolation #83) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:28 am

one last thing of interest before i sleep for anyone who finds this sort of thing interesting (i do):

numbers dude has 5 full-on "scum" reads
numbers dude has 5 full-on "town" reads
the rest are varying degrees of lean or null

this is a 18:5 game and it should be far easier to get town reads than scum reads here

not a slam dunk "only scum would do this" thing or anything... just something that i found interesting when i saw his reads list

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1721 (isolation #84) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:46 pm

hey

let's lynch numbers dude yeah

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:12 pm

hmmm

titus might actually be a better lynch but i dont really care at this point so whatever

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:13 am

i didn't change my mind per se, just think titus might have been a better lynch

mostly because i looked at the last votecount and saw that i dont really have a scum read on the titus wagon apart from numbers dude so uh... something weird going on there maybe, probably day talk shenanigans and asking to be bused if numbers dude is scum OR if numbers dude is somehow town then titus is probably scum and scum piled onto this pretty damn hard

either way, unless there's a substantial number of scum among the lurkers or useless people who aren't voting either, numbers dude was clearly the lynch scum wanted to happen today for one reason or another and that should be something people think about tomorrow

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:18 am

honestly, havent been invested in this game enough to really figure out what's going on and i don't care this late in the day (especially if this is twlight)

numbers dude's play looks like scum but i could be wrong and if i am, titus should probably be lynched tomorrow. titus should come under heavy scrutiny if numbers is scum, too, but yeah

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:20 am

titus, the worst, maybe drixx are where i'd look at first tomorrow pretty much regardless of the flip

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:21 am

In post 1772, Ankamius wrote:The wagon suddenly got very very lazy as soon as it started being the majority

That's pretty telling by itself

not necessarily but i suppose we'll see

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:38 am

me, sakura, hs, titus, cupcake, nos, nancy, the worst, shiro, kokichi, sando, hebi = 12

ok yeah

not too interested in trying to figure out teh game in twilight when im still a fair bit behind but still think the worst and titus are prob where id look at first regardless of numbers flip (and get the lurkers, especially drixx / bbMolla, to produce actual content)

if im still alive tomorrow ill hopefully have time to put in proper effort and resort my reads properly

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:04 am

i doubt nico is scum

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:13 am

dont really think nancy is scum either

my current plan for today:

pretend to

catch up (still at p55ish)

pretend to

read numbers dude iso (probably will be very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very painful but i imagine it's a goldmine of interactions)
go from there

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:51 am

nico is likely not scum with titus (who may very well be scum)

also think the replace-out was townish but i don't care to argue this since it's not a strong belief

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1877 (isolation #94) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:00 pm

it should go without saying but votes should probably be split between fa and one other person tonight

and anyone voting outside of those two names should be lynched tomorrow

awful votes like bbMolla's should not be allowed (even though i'm not sure bbMolla has the balls to think he can get away with being that blatantly bad as scum)

titus got made leader because of a lack of cohesion from the majority of players

don't let it happen again

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1880 (isolation #95) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:24 pm

(if you're scum, that's true, yes)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1882 (isolation #96) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:24 pm

(if you were town, it would be 4)

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1888 (isolation #97) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:30 pm

i can't even make sense of #1885, even taking into account it's titus logic

can someone please translate that into english

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1894 (isolation #98) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:34 pm

none of a, b or c are sound

zMuffinMan · Post Post #1913 (isolation #99) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:26 pm

i sincerely doubt you'll ever be able to lynch me but go for gold

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:40 pm

(oh, and if you ever want to push ankamius youre going to have to explain why brass sees his scum buddy spamming and gets so fed up he replaces out, which alone is enough to say they weren't scum together but there were a lot more interactions than just that)

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:54 pm

oh right, titus voted ankamius for leader

now wants to lynch ankamius

yeah, that happened

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:21 pm

i voted someone who at least one other person has already claimed they voted (not titus though obv) but i'm probably not going to say who it was until the rest of the non-titus votes are claimed

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:29 pm

In post 1939, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1878, Titus wrote:No. I was probably made leader because town wanted it. I was right yesterday in that scum wanted FA. So why wouldn't town vote for me?
this is like blatantly illogical

seems redundant to quote a titus post and say that

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:44 pm

im going to pretty much ignore everything titus says about the leadership mechanic as opposed to reading it, shedding a single tear and shaking my head slowly

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:09 pm

In post 1967, Titus wrote:It resulted in a Numbers lynch.

you had literally

nothing

to do with why numbers was lynched

also, i would policy lynch bbMolla for voting titus and making it so we have to read this shit for at least another day phase

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:48 pm

stop spamming the fucking thread with shit nobody cares about thanks

stop fucking quoting massive walls and writing 1 line responses

jesus fucking christ

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:57 pm

i'm policy lynching the shit out of titus if i'm alive tomorrow

and i won't be moving my vote either

that's a fucking promise

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:09 pm

In post 2026, Frozen Angel wrote:If this logic was used to say shiro or ufo are scummy

this is why everything titus writes is a (most likely deliberate) waste of space

she's not drawing the conclusions you would expect a person to draw if they truly believed the things she's saying

(PS: neither of those two names are scum anyway)

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:14 pm

In post 2032, Titus wrote:I pushed UFO and Shiro a lot yesterday.

If you're going to lie, lie better.

literally all of your mentions of shiro yesterday:

In post 870, Titus wrote:How can you have Shiro town when there's no cookie?

In post 1240, Titus wrote:Shiro - Scum, No cookies

oh yeah, i bet she felt the burn from that push

fuck, you must have had her sweating hard

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:18 pm

hebi is most likely town

so is shiro

zMuffinMan · Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:58 pm

what play

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:17 am

yes, me complaining about you doing

absolutely nothing but

talking about the setup and me suggesting that it's stupid for someone like titus to have been elected due to a complete lack of co-ordination are things that are comparable

you're truly a spectacular player

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:34 am

@nancy,

probably not

and i have no idea what you're asking in the second paragraph. unless you're saying i'm disregarding the possibility that titus is town who scum elected? i'm not entirely, it's just far less likely than the alternative based on a. her play, and b. the fact that titus was a likely lynch candidate today if not for the leader thing so why waste it on her purely to induce paranoia? otoh, i do think she'd be vain enough to ask her team to make her unlynchable

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:43 am

just read up from when i made that post, it's on the same page

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:51 am

hey mylo

how much of the game have you read and what are your thoughts on what you've read?

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:56 am

about what

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:01 am

... you've read, what? 11 pages? what do you think about what happened in those pages?

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:06 am

give some examples of things that confuse you

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:09 am

In post 2124, Myloninja13 wrote:Titus yelled at Frozen Angel for a while?

fantastic insight

what are some things that confused you?

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:47 am

oh, right, that reminds me. drixx is scum

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:49 am

who did you vote for leader drixx?

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:15 pm

In post 2140, Drixx wrote:OMGUS much?

do you know what OMGUS means? and do you think it's a relevant term that actually means anything?

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:16 pm

In post 2141, Drixx wrote:The sad part is that you probably think you have some kind of "gotcha!" here. Whom I voted for is self-evident. You shouldn't have to ask because you should already know.

you don't know why i'm asking, just answer the question clearly

cerb?

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:23 pm

that's not why i think you're scum

though the fact that you're taking time away from actually doing any scum hunting to spend so much time on that doesnt make you look any better

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:55 pm

feel like doing a lurker lynch today

mylo or drixx. maybe rando

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:21 pm

they barely interacted (except insofar as numbers quoted him in his first post and later drixx mentioned something about my point on numbers reads list that didnt make much sense and never amounted to anything). nothing to do with numbers really - just most of the active players are probably town and there's scum hiding in the lurkers with zero content

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:52 pm

wat

i just said i think most of the active player list is probably town

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:59 pm

... yes

zMuffinMan · Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:56 pm

no im not

zMuffinMan · Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:08 pm

what bbMolla did is more likely to come from town, though

i went through numbers iso at some point and decided mylo was likely to be scum with him - may go into this at some point

drixx is just likely scum because read his iso

sorry, don't have much time for mafia today so this is about all youll get today, busy at work, will make time over weekend

zMuffinMan · Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:03 am

a. what exactly are you trying to say im lying about drixx? b. if me blatantly lying about something wasnt enough to shift your vote from sando, then damn, i cant wait to hear what you've got on him

zMuffinMan · Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:46 am

Vote: Drixx

or mylo, whichever

oh right, titus

may

not be scum if Drixx is scum and actually i think there's a chance titus was elected with zero scum influence but it was still a shit thing to happen

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:05 pm

not reading recent pages right now

just did a quick iso of drixx's recent posts

he's still scum

lynch him, thanks

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:48 pm

mathblade, with no due respect, i think you're about as good at scum hunting as the big toe on my left foot

the only recent memory i have of you being town is calling LLD your strongest town read and calling a bunch of town players scum

so you thinking that's obviously false is a good thing in my book - it means i'm on the right track

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:54 pm

yeah, this is clearly not one of those mythical good games you apparently have

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:07 pm

i wouldn't continue attacking you, actually just went and checked and you're right about being good at getting town reads

In post 2547, MathBlade wrote:I am good at townreads

Spoiler: really good at town reads

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:08 pm

here's a challenge for anyone interested:

boil drixx's iso down to

actual attempts at scum hunting

and tell me what's town about it

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:19 pm

In post 2553, MathBlade wrote:Drixx doesn’t play traditionally d1. He is more concerned with blocking and communication than reads day one

this is verifiably false but also not really relevant since he wasn't here d1

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:23 pm

to be clear, i don't care about drixx's d1 (except insofar as i had him in a poe pool of scum and i thought his first post was bad)

he's not scum for a lack of content or anything d1. he's scum for his content (and lack of good content)

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:33 pm

honestly, i don't really care about showing anyone why drixx is scum if they're unable to read his ISO and see it. maybe if i was invested in this game or cared about the outcome i might try, but i'm not and i don't

if you link me directly to whatever you're talking about, i'll respond to that and tell you why you're wrong, but i'm just not interested in getting into an argument about it atm so if you disagree, i don't care

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:45 pm

titus and drixx likely aren't scum together. that's the only part you got right

drixx mediating something between two people he knows is the most neutral thing he could have done and also the easiest thing for a scum player to do to put themselves in someone's good books without actually writing anything town. people like mediators

(also, i dont believe titus was voted in by scum - my current theory is cerb voted her and she won by tiebreak because no one else accumulated more than 2 votes)

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:50 pm

he didn't call out anything...

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:53 pm

no, it isn't

you're interpreting that incorrectly

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:57 pm

frankly, anyone town player who thinks i'm scum should probably just quit mafia altogether

i'm so beyond caring about dealing with players like you that i really don't give a shit

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:40 pm

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zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:09 pm

@Mod, please prod cupcake

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:13 pm

if you cannot see sakura is town by now, you're pretty bad at mafia tbh

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:15 pm

where's your head at anyway, sakura? who do you think is scum? (don't intend to hash anything out with you, just interested)

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:23 pm

oh. you're probably wrong about shiro

not going to comment on the rest

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:43 pm

a--a-- ------ ----- -a----a--

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:44 pm

wow, that post was so obvtown, dont see how anyone would want to vote drixx after that

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:50 pm

let me quote the part of that post that was a legitimate attempt at sorting at least one player in the game...

[quote][/quote]
huh? that's strange... what happened to his post...?

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:56 pm

neither of those are conclusions you came to there and if you legitimately thought i was scum youd have voted me by now

PS please stop inundating the thread with so many reads and so much town content, we already see how obvtown you are

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:58 pm

might it perchance be that youre not voting me because youre worried about how it will make you look if i manage to get lynched or if my lynch doesnt go through? or are you hoping others push it so you dont need to?

nah, couldnt be either of those because youre obvtown

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:07 pm

ah, yes, youd rather use your vote to what? pressure sando and not talk about why you think hes scum while ignoring a larger wagon on someone youre apparently scum reading and criticising for not detailing reads

how silly of me to not see the obvious town intent

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:11 pm

is it that you criticise people for not explaining their reads while not explaining your read? because, if so, im way ahead ofyou on the answer there

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:17 pm

someone tell me what drixx's current reads and why. the why is important since he's all about giving explanations. the what is also important though

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:52 pm

oh, that explains why one of the first things he felt like doing when he got into the game was throw a vote down

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:56 pm

but he did use it

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:04 pm

like, he's clearly trying to claim that the fact he isn't moving his vote means nothing

but he voted, which i guess according to what you're saying means he felt really, really strongly about the sando read because he normally doesn't vote much, right? but he did

and yet... he's sitting there criticising me for not explaining a read (i have, though, just not in mounds of detail) while sitting on a vote he won't explain despite being asked to

almost makes you want to post a

emoji

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:06 pm

almost makes you think he's just criticising my lack of explanation as a filler for real content

almost makes you think he's just using it as a way to look like he's saying things when he really isn't

almost makes you think he's trying to avoid actually hunting scum by going on and on about how unfair it is he's being voted

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:06 pm

almost, but not quite

because he's obvtown, duh

dunno how anyone could not see that

zMuffinMan · Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:24 pm

who do you think is scum, shiro?

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:39 am

you realise he wasn't calling you scum, right? and that his "im paranoid of you" thing was about as far away from an actual read as you could possibly have without explicitly just not mentioning someone

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:43 am

if every single person drixx asked to verify that from says "he doesnt vote unless hes sure of something", im going to fucking lol

primarily because i dont think that's what he was expecting people to answer with

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:50 am

Vote: mylo

doubt there's enough support for drixx with derp squad defending him

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:56 am

dont think he has the balls to play like this as scum

do believe hes incompetent as town though

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:08 am

In post 2821, Frozen Angel wrote:I would not underestimate players. Specially with such low fakeble content

i dont really have a town read on him, he's just less likely to be scum than about 5 other people in this game. still in a pool of 8 players that contains all the scum. (no, i dont feel like saying who those names are, though given my votes today two of those names should be obvious)

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:25 am

actually, i will say that anyone who likes interaction analysis should be able to tell that there is most likely at least one (maybe only one) scum between mylo/rando. his thoughts about lurkers (primarily mylo/rando) were too deliberate for him to be calling out town players

i don't really feel like going into any depth on this and i really dont care if anyone disagrees but 934, 1099 and the placements in 1387 are a good start for anyone interested in thinking about that (1099 in particular, the other two posts are mostly complementary)

and if you think mathblade is town, well then draw the obvious conclusion

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:42 am

i gave you the why. deliberate call out of lurking. (that's meta-backed btw - as in, do the digging and you'll find a similar pattern.) but like i said, i'm not going to go into any depth there and i don't care if you disagree

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:23 am

"not about to give it to the biggest wagon in the game" - oh good, then i can count on you not giving it to drixx right? because we're both at 3 votes now

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:28 am

a--a-- -o---- ----- -a----a--

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:38 am

sorry shiro, post restriction says i can only take guesses from cupcake. first they get him with that youtube restriction, now they impose even stricter rules on who i can play hangman with... theyre truly cruel

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:39 am

a--a-- -o---- ----- -a----a-e

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:41 am

a--a-- -o---- --n-- -a----a-e

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:43 am

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:48 am

oh, dare you to try to solve it with no more guesses

al-a-- -ol--- l-n-- -a---la-e

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:51 am

so close

al-a-- -ol--- l-n-- -a---lade

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:53 am

al-a-- -ol--- l-n-- ma---lade

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:54 am

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:56 am

al-a-- -oli-- l-n-- ma---lade

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:59 am

if you cant guess it now there's no hope for you cupcake

al-ay- -oli-y lyn-- ma---lade

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:01 am

al-ay- -oli-y lyn-- mat--lade

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:11 am

mylo is a good compromise lynch since there's so much resistance to drixx

and even though it's already been solved,

al-ay- -oli-y lyn-h math-lade

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:12 am

drixx should never be allowed to touch a power though

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:15 am

al-ay- -oli-y lyn-h mathblade

not sure how youre going to get this one cupcake, it's pretty tough

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:20 am

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:20 am

wait nm double-checked

there is a c

al-ay- -olicy lynch mathblade

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:28 am

i dont hate you and i dont care what you or anyone does in this game (im not advocating anything, regardless of how i feel about your play). it's hangman

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:39 am

im the one spamming the thread? oh, why not follow drixx's advice for things you dont like in a game and scroll past it, because complaining about means you dont enjoy mafia and youre being """LAMIST""" or something

im not interested in having conversations. leave me and my hangman game(s) in peace

al-ay- policy lynch mathblade

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:45 am

the most enjoyable part of playing hangman here is knowing that drixx cant complain about the spam without being a massive hypocrite (im fine being a hypocrite to prove the point i was making though)

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:55 am

already said it's a meta point on numbers, but also those two were hardly the only two players in the game lurking and he felt a deliberate need to call out those two in particular (though mostly mylo). also think about why he mentioned mylo's meta in 1099 and just follow through the logic (from the perspective mylo is town and the perspective mylo is scum)

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:01 pm

. . .

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:17 pm

In post 3004, MathBlade wrote:Muffin and Katsuki fucking stop please

viewtopic.php?p=8896421#p8896421

The last time this shit was done it made me see red and unable to fucking think straight. I am really trying to show restraint and be better but with shit like this it is hard as fuck.

This post makes it look like you don't actually want to be playing forum mafia. Like ... if you think content coming from a certain slot is worthless to you, then just scroll right on by. No need for this crap. This ends up making me wonder if you're just making posts like this for LAMIST or something.

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:34 pm

In post 3048, MathBlade wrote:I do actually want to. But not with people who don't actually play forum mafia.

I actually play on other sides and am very close to well regarded and a threat, especially in turbos, F2F's, or mashes. Sure people joke but they joke with content. There is a bare minimum to it. If you want to spam or go talk music, go somewhere else. Call it LAMIST all you want, but quite unless mechanics dictate it, a game in a game is just noise.

i know, i guess it was a bit unfair for me to write that statement about someone who wants less noise in a game, wasn't it? almost makes it seem like i was just writing something with no intent to further the game or provide useful content, doesn't it? almost seems like i was trying to make you look worse without good reasoning, right?

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:46 pm

In post 3058, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Disagree, they were the most obvious lurkers. I didn’t have much of a read on random. He was NAI to me, though I leaned towards disinterested villa at the time but Math seems kind of villagery to me, so meh. As for mylo, their posting is more concerning because unlike random, who just basically vanished, they keep just posting filler. If this continues, I’d definitely start to get suspicious.

nico, drixx, cupcake, bbMolla and probably others i am forgetting were all either doing the same thing as mylo

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:48 pm

oh yeah, and kokichi

man, we had a long list of lurkers d1 but he picked those two names in particular!

what a coincidence!

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:00 pm

In post 3065, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3064, Ankamius wrote:Do you think the push on me towards the end of day one was scum-motivated, math
I think 123456789's posts definitely were.

how can you tell?

zMuffinMan · Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:41 pm

In post 3069, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I dunno but I still don’t think it necessarily means anything.

if we're dealing in absolutes, sure. nothing that get said in a mafia game

necessarily

means anything (with the obvious exception of mod confirmation in non-bastard games)

but hey...

In post 1387, 123456789 wrote:BBMolla - Null leaning town
NicoRobin - Null
Randomidget - Null leaning scum
Kokichi Oma - Leaning Town
Katsuki - Null
Myloninja13 - Null leaning scum
Drixx - Null

wow, look at that. only two specific names among the people lurking were "null leaning scum" despite a similar level of content across the board

hmm, probably means nothing

wow, a cursory glance at how he treats a lurking buddy in another game shows a similar way of calling attention to a buddy lurking. know what i can't find in numbers dude (and ircher's) scum games? directly calling out a town player and asking them to provide content. (it may exist, i just couldn't find an example of it - and someone else is free to put the time in to find a counter-example here if they want. he does

mention

lurkers in other games, just not in the same way)

guess it means nothing

(the point here is that there is better reason to assume he was extremely conscious of a buddy lurking than not)