VOTE: IO
oh duel mechanics. Who wants to bet someone throws rushes it.
VOTE: IO
Why?In post 65, Io wrote:I so want to duel you now.In post 62, Garmr wrote:Can we like kill both if people decide to duel like in transformers mafia.
It works better because it will prevent scum from abusing it.In post 75, Io wrote:Because you said you wanted to lynch both parties involved in a duel.In post 74, Garmr wrote:Why?In post 65, Io wrote:I so want to duel you now.In post 62, Garmr wrote:Can we like kill both if people decide to duel like in transformers mafia.
I wanted to make the duel mechanic a town tool and deny the scum the ability to do so. So if you duel you sacrifice yourself but you kill your scum read. It would stop scum from using it if everyone followed through that way but.... I don't think we can have them shoot each other like in transformers mafia so that ruins my plan.In post 106, BuJaber wrote:Garmr was saying scum have no incentive to duel. I was correcting him.In post 23, ejjinami wrote:wait, what?In post 22, BuJaber wrote:Because of white flag? Maybe but like ... towncred + potentially killing a townie + veng kill if they lose.In post 19, ejjinami wrote:lol, I was thinking of reading people this way...In post 15, Garmr wrote:Last time town rushed it and got another townie killed. Then day 2 scum did it. Then town was like derp he must be town. Then scum shoot me for saying the guy was probably scum (i think thats why)died.
btw, the game is nightless, so isn't dueling in the early game phases like super harmful?
are you talking about town or mafia? I'm not following
Oh I'm not sure you catching what i'm saying.In post 109, Io wrote:Still a bad plan gramr.
If someone kills scum there’s no reason to lynch them.
The benefits of my plan don't work well with maths alone.In post 125, Io wrote:Nah, I getcha.In post 112, Garmr wrote:Oh I'm not sure you catching what i'm saying.In post 109, Io wrote:Still a bad plan gramr.
If someone kills scum there’s no reason to lynch them.
In the other game you could vote to let one live. But you could also vote to watchboth die at the same time before night.
So what you could do is get two lynches in one day if you vote to kill both. Making everyone agree vote to double death makes it so scum would have to sacrifice themselves to abuse the duel mechanic.
I think you're wrong.
Like, here let me draw a diagram for ya.
So it's 7v3, correct? A TvT duel is significantly more likely than a TvS duel. TvT is currently 67% chance and TvS is a 33% chance (assuming a townie initiates a duel which in your world only tonwies would start duels). This baiscally means if a townie dueled right now there is a 67% chance we would lynch 2 townies in your plan. As a reminder scum need 4 mislynches to win. Meaning this only needs to happen 2 times and we lose in your plan. You would be better off arguing we do not use duels period rather than following this plan which has a very good chance to end poorly for us.
All I done so far was try and set up the game so yolo duels are to be avoided and take the duel mechanics away from scums hand. I haven't actually gave out my reads yet because I'm trying to make judgement on certain scenario. Thanks for the town read through.In post 156, BuJaber wrote:I'm not going to talk about you.In post 155, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'll catch another scum in six days
@everyone can I get some reads?
Ejji and Nick are my scumleans..
PP is null {PP + Walt not a team}
Garmr seems townie
^pretty much answered in the post before not good.In post 161, Io wrote:And how did preventing yolo duels go for you?In post 160, Garmr wrote:All I done so far was try and set up the game so yolo duels are to be avoided and take the duel mechanics away from scums hand. I haven't actually gave out my reads yet because I'm trying to make judgement on certain scenario. Thanks for the town read through.In post 156, BuJaber wrote:I'm not going to talk about you.In post 155, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'll catch another scum in six days
@everyone can I get some reads?
Ejji and Nick are my scumleans..
PP is null {PP + Walt not a team}
Garmr seems townie
Oh didn't see this managed to catch it when looking through my side gir I mean my bae's iso. iso.In post 120, BuJaber wrote:Not a day 1 without some RC tale of woe.In post 119, Io wrote:In post 115, RadiantCowbells wrote: I was thinking your outburst felt forced, I mean you practically said it unprovoked just because someone joked about dealing you.
@garmr - who have you played with before from this playerlist?
No.In post 169, RadiantCowbells wrote:Can we all agree to lynch me but I get to choose the duel for tomorrow?
Yeah me being scum is the only possible reason to not follow your insanely good judgement .In post 173, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yeah but you're scum garmr so you wouldn't want that.
I'm talking to people who aren't.
Ok then enlighten me.In post 175, RadiantCowbells wrote:You've been scum since before you said that.
Seems like to me your trying to bait me into voting you to rush the day. I'm not going to fall that shit.In post 177, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd rather talk to town than scum.
Yeah because you know me so well. You and I both know what happened when you assumed what was and what wasn't town garmrs thought process. Hint you were wrong.In post 180, RadiantCowbells wrote:not a viewpoint town garmr ever has.In post 179, Garmr wrote:Seems like to me your trying to bait me into voting you to rush the day. I'm not going to fall that shit.In post 177, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd rather talk to town than scum.
your reaction aka a dodgeIn post 176, Garmr wrote:Ok then enlighten me.In post 175, RadiantCowbells wrote:You've been scum since before you said that.
Then a pushIn post 177, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd rather talk to town than scum.
When I asked what you thought was scummy about me before the post where I said I wouldn't follow who you wanted to duel. You avoided answering saying you won't talk to scum. Then attack a post that I made after. This shows to me your reaction calling me scum was a knee jerk reaction because if you actually put thought into my slot before that post you would of had reasoning lined up to hit me with. Instead you attack a latter post with out actually putting in the reason from giving yourself more time to make a case up. That's if you actually were intending to make one latter you could also be hoping to drop it fast.In post 180, RadiantCowbells wrote:not a viewpoint town garmr ever has.In post 179, Garmr wrote:Seems like to me your trying to bait me into voting you to rush the day. I'm not going to fall that shit.In post 177, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd rather talk to town than scum.
That argument gave me a seizure with how stupid it is (I can say that I have epilepsy).In post 183, RadiantCowbells wrote:you're saying something absolutely ludicrous because you're trying to call me scum while interpreting my posts atface value even though they should be towny
if you were town you'd say something along the lines of me trying to bluff you into townreading me, not that I'm "trying to bait you into voting me to rush the day".
You can dispose of me when you use your scum revenge kill.In post 187, RadiantCowbells wrote:Penguinpower can I trust you to speed duel Garmr?
Welp looks like I won't get anything more out of you.
Fuck I'm cut deeply.
VOTE: radiantIn post 253, PenguinPower wrote:Has he guaranteed it?In post 250, XxtheWORSTxX wrote:surely you realise I'm gonna be frustrated as shit working thru stuff w me when I can't even tell why you guaranteed your own lynch this gameIn post 248, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not asking you to sort me
i'm asking you to work with me on other people
So penguin why do you scumread the Bujaber slot?In post 256, PenguinPower wrote:I mean, I think RC is town. But, I've seen him direct things back from worse, so for you to say he's guaranteed it gives me a bit of pause.
Tbh I feel yah I don't have many strong reads either. But what about his meta do you scum read. So I can get a understanding.In post 259, PenguinPower wrote:Meta. It's not strong, but I don't have many strong reads right now.
Can you discuss what bujaber did in this game that's meta related. You don't have to mention the other games in case it has something to do with ongoing games.In post 261, PenguinPower wrote:Not something I can discuss right now.In post 260, Garmr wrote:Tbh I feel yah I don't have many strong reads either. But what about his meta do you scum read. So I can get a understanding.In post 259, PenguinPower wrote:Meta. It's not strong, but I don't have many strong reads right now.
It's that smug attitude I don't like.In post 274, RadiantCowbells wrote:fuck yourself mate it's not my fault you rolled scum.
Yeah I have tried to sort you I have had discussion with you I even asked you to elaborate. This is what post where i sorted you in my mind.In post 278, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like when you've made no effort to determine if I actually am town you have no right to complain that I'm just going to call you scum in return.
Before that I was thinking there may be a chance you just wanted to get lynched (trying to bait me) because you were throwing again. But this is the point I made my mind up.In post 184, Garmr wrote:Me asking what you scum read before I said no.your reaction aka a dodgeIn post 176, Garmr wrote:Ok then enlighten me.In post 175, RadiantCowbells wrote:You've been scum since before you said that.Then a pushIn post 177, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd rather talk to town than scum.When I asked what you thought was scummy about me before the post where I said I wouldn't follow who you wanted to duel. You avoided answering saying you won't talk to scum. Then attack a post that I made after. This shows to me your reaction calling me scum was a knee jerk reaction because if you actually put thought into my slot before that post you would of had reasoning lined up to hit me with. Instead you attack a latter post with out actually putting in the reason from giving yourself more time to make a case up. That's if you actually were intending to make one latter you could also be hoping to drop it fast.In post 180, RadiantCowbells wrote:not a viewpoint town garmr ever has.In post 179, Garmr wrote:Seems like to me your trying to bait me into voting you to rush the day. I'm not going to fall that shit.In post 177, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd rather talk to town than scum.
p:edit Proves my point more will address it through.
shhhIn post 282, RadiantCowbells wrote:ate ate ate ate ate ate ate ate ate ate ate
garmr/bujaber/shoshin lynches wins the game.
Yeah that can happen sometimes when you get brain damage.In post 285, RadiantCowbells wrote:my empathyis totally turned off sorry.
like i understand that you're actually upset here as well as scum and some days I would care to try to make you feel better but not right now
Because you are toxic.In post 290, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not but i'll never convince this town to not lynch me.In post 286, XxtheWORSTxX wrote:Arrcee arrcee how strong are you on PP town?In post 257, RadiantCowbells wrote:TW u know full well why???
Doesn't mean you have to spread the brain damage around like a virus.In post 291, RadiantCowbells wrote:yeah people on MS damage my brain it's unfortunate.In post 288, Garmr wrote:Yeah that can happen sometimes when you get brain damage.In post 285, RadiantCowbells wrote:my empathyis totally turned off sorry.
like i understand that you're actually upset here as well as scum and some days I would care to try to make you feel better but not right now
Wow you are like a child.In post 298, RadiantCowbells wrote:say what you want about my actions
no one was required to vote me.
You should really take it as null alignment indicative. Just don't be a manipulative douche and try and portray it as a scum thing from me.In post 304, RadiantCowbells wrote:As I recall Garmr is well known for his ate as scum
if that memory is wrong then I'll consider him as town again
don't hammer or even place more votes on me, tyia
Your'e lucky I town read you because if you said something like that another game where I null read you. That would earn you a sneaky yolo hammer if you were l-1. Eliminating threats against me is eliminating threats against town.In post 312, XxtheWORSTxX wrote:urgh I really don't have a strong read there but like
if I could choose between copping him and vigging him I'd vig him
There's no attempt to sort him.In post 352, ejjinami wrote:btw, that’s rather not SvSIn post 68, Shoshin wrote:That feels like a lie.In post 67, RadiantCowbells wrote:I wish I rolled scum here so I wouldn't have to deal with being town in this setup
Pretty much a defence of rc while avoiding stating what alignment they think they are look at any post involving rc it's a defence of him but not stating their read on rc.In post 350, ejjinami wrote:RC's dissatisfaction post is NAI imo. The irritation isn't linked to this game in particular, but to all games in general, so while the post might have been triggered by people SRing him, it doesn’t even have to be connected to his alignment.In post 117, Walt wrote:I think the "I'm so sad I rolled town" routine is an act. I think you're painting it as a slip because you're doing what you said you'd do and try to lynch anyone who suspects you.
And tbh if he tries to lynch anyone who suspects him, that would prob give a better read than this post.
STFU you are the toxic piece of trash not me you wouldn't got my backlash if you weren't.In post 393, RadiantCowbells wrote:also I went back and verified my meta on garmr
not only is he perfectly willing to be as big and random of a toxic dick as he has been this game as scum
him being like this strongly points towards him being scum
You did or I read wrongly. I mean you said it strongly indicates me as scum. As you said in post 393 and 394. I think this is the first time in any game we clashed in this way through.In post 401, RadiantCowbells wrote:classic garmr to, when called out on toxic being a scumtell, ramp up the toxicity and blame me for it
Oh read that wrong you are admitting to it nevermind.In post 403, Garmr wrote:You did or I read wrongly. I mean you said it strongly indicates me as scum. As you said in post 393 and 394. I think this is the first time in any game we clashed in this way through.In post 401, RadiantCowbells wrote:classic garmr to, when called out on toxic being a scumtell, ramp up the toxicity and blame me for it
Sorry if it came out personal. It was supposed to do with game related actions. I have no issues with RC out side of game.In post 406, AnonymousGhost wrote:Agreeing with the above.
Please do not attack the player. Thank you.
I'll make a deal not only will try to avoid arguing with RC(which I'm doing now.) I will kiss and make up with them if you are willing to consider EJJ the possibility of scum and talk to me about it.In post 405, Io wrote:How about we move on and try to be a bit less personal.
I got half my classes canceled today so I should have time to do some dives into the ISO seas and see if I can’t catch some scum.
I also town read pp. So me town reading pp,the fact you will yolo duel me if I pick you over pp,the fact you deserved to be lynched over yolo duelling won't change my vote.In post 410, RadiantCowbells wrote:also his calling me town then doing nothing about it is a hilariously scum motivated move
I think this is a townie post but if penguin is lynched over RC I will replace out.In post 413, Io wrote:Penguin's good at giving basic reads, but not very good at making himself readable.
I'm a bit unsure about him though, since I'm torn on how to read 336.
I'm leaning more scum though because like the rest of his posts he lacks any substance at all. They are bare-bone reads with no real reasoning behind them.
Most of his posts are also reactionary it seems rather than trying to promote discussion he is just reacting to whatever is brought up and as I said he doesn't even really add anything at all. He says things, but not actually having meaning behind his words.
VOTE: Penguin
Will be honest it's a gut read. Also even if I only null read PP I would still vote RC over them.In post 416, Io wrote:Why do you town read him exactly?
I don't disagree that post can come from town or scum, but like I said I don't think he is really contributing anything.
So much for being my bae, my real bae would spell my name correctly heart broken.In post 419, Io wrote:A few quickfire reads.
Ejj - Null, possibly scum with BuJaber because I find it weird that he said BuJaber's objectively scummy 116 is actually a townslip.
BuJaber - Could be either a VI or scum. 116 is admittedly weird, but the rest of his posts kind of feel like someone trying to promote discussion and I kind of liked his gramr read. So I'm leaning on town who is just really bad at just trusting people who say "X is a scumslip" more than himbeing opportunistic scum.
Gramr - I still am not sure. I stand by my gut that something about him feels off from the last game that I played with him and I am still unsure about if his plan comes from town or scum. I'm almost 100% sure if Penguin is scum so is Gramr. Other than that I really can't tell if he is town or scum at the moment. I can't really see anything that just stands out as this has to be scum and he does feel genuine at times. It's also just hard because of how emotional it got so I can't really trust anything based on that argument because I don't want to get into the territory of asking is his anger was genuine or not so I'll ignore it.
It's fine i'm joking around. Remember what performer said about me playing different. I tend to be more varied than normal people. So I think it's a good idea to look at my intentions rather than meta which you have doing which is good. Your results are wrong through and I'm town. But that's chill I think you will figure that out eventually.In post 422, Io wrote:Sho is null, I don't really see how anyone is reading them at the moment as I can't see anything AI in their posts so far.
Walt is town, makes some good posts, inquires about others reads, and although he doesn't make a lot of reads I like his reads and he feels to be coming from a town perspective.
I'm not even going to attempt to read into TW.
And that's everyone so...
Penguin-garmr-(TW/Ejj/BuJaber) and hopefully not any of my stronger town reads like RC, Walk, or Nicolas.
I'll be honest. I wrote Garmr at first and was like "that doesn't sound like, I think the a and r are switched."Garmr wrote:So much for being my bae, my real bae would spell my name correctly heart broken.In post 419, Io wrote:A few quickfire reads.
Ejj - Null, possibly scum with BuJaber because I find it weird that he said BuJaber's objectively scummy 116 is actually a townslip.
BuJaber - Could be either a VI or scum. 116 is admittedly weird, but the rest of his posts kind of feel like someone trying to promote discussion and I kind of liked his gramr read. So I'm leaning on town who is just really bad at just trusting people who say "X is a scumslip" more than himbeing opportunistic scum.
Gramr - I still am not sure. I stand by my gut that something about him feels off from the last game that I played with him and I am still unsure about if his plan comes from town or scum. I'm almost 100% sure if Penguin is scum so is Gramr. Other than that I really can't tell if he is town or scum at the moment. I can't really see anything that just stands out as this has to be scum and he does feel genuine at times. It's also just hard because of how emotional it got so I can't really trust anything based on that argument because I don't want to get into the territory of asking is his anger was genuine or not so I'll ignore it.
Sorry...
Oh never mind then. Derp
How is it hypocritical? What did you think you contributed with your posts till that point?In post 448, ejjinami wrote:that’s actually kinda hypocriticalIn post 164, Garmr wrote: ejjinami-Says a whole of nothing a big fluff poster but the fluff isn't the joke game but the kind that looks like they are doing something. Can anyone confirm this is their playstyle/meta. Otherwise scum read.
I don’t get why do people SR me for that, I did what I wanted and I def think it was a good thing. If people don’t appreciate it then honestly fuck you.
I do not usually take that long to get reads. In my last games I went crazy with the early/overblown pushes and tbh even though it was prob good, it felt absolutely disgusting later on when I had to actually act on them or change them. You can find some of my previous town games on the site, it should not take long
As for scum games, those are my last ones:
ISO link (mafia neighbour)
ISO link (SK)
The posts in the ISO in the 1-st link are listed in reverse, so if you want to check, you have to start from the last one and go up. Idt it’ll take long, the game was a rather short one
That's a bit condescending but just to avoid future arguments won't get into it.But what your commenting on is over on my end so you don't have to try and spark it back up.In post 464, ejjinami wrote:shhhh, calm down sweetie, it's not your fault that the game is a really unrewarding one. Try to ignore RC and interact with the other playersIn post 398, Garmr wrote:STFU you are the toxic piece of trash not me you wouldn't got my backlash if you weren't.In post 393, RadiantCowbells wrote:also I went back and verified my meta on garmr
not only is he perfectly willing to be as big and random of a toxic dick as he has been this game as scum
him being like this strongly points towards him being scum
Also if it's calling someone toxic and trash I've done that as town before (been banned for saying worse as town. When I told someone to shove something up their anus and fuck themselves among other things.)
Can you elaborate on your reads on the other players (except me and RC)?
Vote Radiant Cowbells then. They are detriment to town.In post 465, BuJaber wrote:PP is so town right now man did you read his answers to my questions and circumstances of his rep in?
That's not what hypocritical means. I think you mean unfair. Ok I will let that one slip a bit. Why did you do nothing to improve it with that fluffy style of saying nothing then. Because those posts after you got bumped were fluff as well.In post 472, ejjinami wrote:Look at the post numbers and see which page was I on back then. I didn't have any good reads back then, but there wasn't anything till then, which I'd want to base my reads on.In post 466, Garmr wrote:How is it hypocritical? What did you think you contributed with your posts till that point?In post 448, ejjinami wrote:that’s actually kinda hypocriticalIn post 164, Garmr wrote: ejjinami-Says a whole of nothing a big fluff poster but the fluff isn't the joke game but the kind that looks like they are doing something. Can anyone confirm this is their playstyle/meta. Otherwise scum read.
I don’t get why do people SR me for that, I did what I wanted and I def think it was a good thing. If people don’t appreciate it then honestly fuck you.
I do not usually take that long to get reads. In my last games I went crazy with the early/overblown pushes and tbh even though it was prob good, it felt absolutely disgusting later on when I had to actually act on them or change them. You can find some of my previous town games on the site, it should not take long
As for scum games, those are my last ones:
ISO link (mafia neighbour)
ISO link (SK)
The posts in the ISO in the 1-st link are listed in reverse, so if you want to check, you have to start from the last one and go up. Idt it’ll take long, the game was a rather short one
and neither did you nor prob the majority of the game.
So it's obviously invalid
So the only thing none fluff a was a scum read on me which can easily be addressed.In post 473, ejjinami wrote:In post 469, Garmr wrote:@EJJ
Can you tell me in dot points. What actions have you have done to further the game and what results have you got out of them?
- I'm playing.
I don't actually care how much I do, because as I said before, I'm not going to force myself to do stuff, cuz it ALWAYS ends up in me getting overworked, worn out, stopping to read the thread just to get some sleep and having to wear myself down even more because of all of the catchups later.
You can look at my latest games in here, cuz I started and then replaced out of A LOT of games lately. I can even give you a few recent examples from the other forum I play on. The reasons I give are almost always the same
I still think I can play, cuz I feel rather good about this game, but do not expect me to go all crazy for contribution and progressing the game. If you want my reads, most of them are in the last few posts I made.
I could elaborate on the other players, but they're mostly null to me rn
-I interacted with IO to get a feel for her.In post 454, ejjinami wrote:Actually Garmr might be scum. The reads in his posts felt kinda as if he put them there “just to have reads”. He doesn’t actually seem to care to interact with the other players to get better reads and most of the interactions I remember are from him yelling at RC. That’s not an entirely confident read, cuz I can see where could his focus on RC be coming from, but I don’t really like the stuff I’ve read from him thus far