Mini Normal 2139: No Flavor Allowed - Game Over

[Looker]

UNVOTE:

reading

[Looker]

Votecount 1.16

Quick(4)

~ SirCakez(30), Ragman Saul Rima(14), farside22(34), brassherald(61)

Ragman Saul Rima(3)

~ Persivul(52), Reundo(6), LuckyLuciano(46)

Zulfy(1)

~ Quick(83)

LuckyLuciano(1)

~ Zulfy(12)

clidd(1)

~ Umlaut(56)


Not Voting (3): clidd(109), Hoctac(36), valoneast(41)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

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Ame replaced Persivul. I replaced Ragman Saul and unvoted.

[Looker]

Upon reassessing, I see how and why Clidd saw me as TPR at the point he claims to have. The whole reaction test as a whole feels off to me still, but maybe it's

because

Clidd isn't really a reaction test sort of player, in my opinion, that when he does perform one it doesn't feel natural to me. Buying Clidd's interaction with me as town requires me to assume that Clidd made a logical oversight that is uncharacteristic of him, but I'm starting to see where exactly that oversight occurred and how it shaped his following posts. In short, I'm feeling more confident about town!Clidd at the moment.

Also, Clidd, your WIM really drops off when people disagree with you.

How many players on the player list do you feel you know intimately? Or as intimately as you know Clidd and Atarashi?

VOTE: Hoctac

for ~reasons~

No one is going to join me on Hactoc so I will go somewhere else.

This seems spicy enough I guess...

VOTE: Zulfy

What were your "~reasons~"? Also, if you're informed that there's scum in the neighborhood, why would you back down when there's resistance to your target?

How has no one sheeped my case yet. What do you think, SirCakez?

Quick/Klick is already my top SR and I'm voting them
What do you want from me lol

Are Reundo, Farside22, and SirCakez all guaranteed town?

Scum could be in the neighborhood that is a thing you know.

This is what I feel.

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• That Reundo only has 6 posts is bizarre to me. He's been here this whole time.

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VOTE: Hoctac or LuckyLuciano

p-edit: so much more reading

[Looker]

VOTE: Hoctac

for ~reasons~

No one is going to join me on Hactoc so I will go somewhere else.

This seems spicy enough I guess...

VOTE: Zulfy

What were your "~reasons~"? Also, if you're informed that there's scum in the neighborhood, why would you back down when there's resistance to your target?

The first rule of fight club is you do not talk about fight club.

1. Atarashi sub informed me they didn't want to vote there when I asked them, "Do you have any good reasons not to vote there?" before he disappeared.
2. One Scum AT LEAST in the Neighborhood so I thought I would pick someone else from there that I could see as Scum.

Then Atarashi slot disappears. Then Hactoc makes the worst post of the game if they are Town and an even worse posts if they are Scum and the rest is history.

• I don't understand what fight club has to do with anything
  
• Why does Atarashi's opinion dictate where you put your vote? What is your connection with that slot?
  
• Which one did you see as scum initially? Hoctac or Zulfy? If Hoctac, why move your vote? If Zulfy, why not vote him originally?
  
• I don't understand the "history" - which post of Hoctac's was the worst?

P-Edit: I am voting for you because someone in your neighborhood didn't want to to vote for Hactoc.

How do the actions of two parties indicate a tertiary as scum? Why wouldn't you vote for Hoctac or the individual who refused to vote for Hoctac?

I think brass is a good candidate for scum in this apparent hood

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

you're in it too?

How is SirCakez's suspicion of brassherald a vote of confidence for Quick?

VOTE: brassherald

I shall sheep Ame who is sheeping farside.

:taps head:

Would you agree to a Hoctac>Ame>Farside lynch chain?

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• Sorry, I'm still trying to catch up.

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• Hello, clidd

VOTE: Quick

[Looker]

Wow. Is that really what you want to do?

[Looker]

If you cannot understand simple English, perhaps you should do some more reading?

"I don't understand what you are saying" should not mean, "You are Scum because I don't understand you"

How many games do you have under your belt

?

• You're trying to insult me, and you should stop.
  • Also, if I couldn't understand a language, what use would it be to keep repeating it? Isn't the natural progression to ask for clarification?
• I
  do
  understand what you're saying - I just don't understand why a town player would do and say what you've done and said.
• This
  is another distraction like the fight club thing - what does my game count have to do with the questions I'm asking you?

Okay, he's a vet. That means he is forcing me to spill my guts.

Good luck, I would rather do this:

VOTE: Looker

Because he cannot think hard enough to understand what I have written.

• I don't understand why asking you questions would be forcing you to do anything, but, even so, what information would you be in possession of that you didn't want me to have? If you're an Informed Townie and you've already informed the town, what other information would you have? You're lying, aren't you?
  
• Good luck with what? You'd rather vote me than to talk to me? What threat do I pose to you that this would be your course of action?
  
• Also, you're voting me not because you think I'm scum, but because you think I'm dumb? Does that mean that you think I'm an easy target?

Should I do more cases? I feel this is enough for now.

If you're offering, can you do one on Reundo, farside22, and SirCakez?

v/la till monday

How many scum do you feel are in the neighborhood?

Okay, he's a vet. That means he is forcing me to spill my guts.

Good luck, I would rather do this:

VOTE: Looker

Because he cannot think hard enough to understand what I have written.

this post is junk
what even is that reasoning for a vote?

RIGHT?!?!?

I actually kind of dislike this megaspam from Lucky
I find it tends to be a scum tactic often (like "I made a lot of "content" therefore i'm town"

Agreed.

If this was partition mafia and there was a group consisting of {Brass, Zulfy, Quick, Looker, Hoctac}, that group would be lynched and hit at least 2 mafia.

ofc those are the five most suspected slots universally
what's the point of this post?

Man, I like you. Quick question, though: Do you think you know why yourself, Reundo, and farside22 have been able to avoid votes/suspicions? Do you feel other people are just scummier?

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• I remember, Clidd - I replaced Doctor Drew
  
• @Reundo: I didn't consider it sudden. Sudden, to me, would be going to 16 posts from 6 after someone mentioned my activity. Either way, I'm still reading and there's more than one mafia. Unless you're telling me that Hoctac, LuckyLuciano, and Quick are all town?
  • And that question "Are Reundo, Farside22, and SirCakez all guaranteed town?", I posed to the town.
    @Town: Are Reundo, Farside22, and SirCakez all guaranteed town?
  • Are there any specific posts I can reference to back up your vague, subjectively worded reads?
• @Umlaut: What was bad about my post? Specifically, what was worse about it than the Quick post it was referencing, which you didn't mention?
  
• @LuckyLuciano: So, if Quick is town, both Hoctac and I are scum together?

[Looker]

What exactly was Quick's "read"? Other than I'm dumb?

[Looker]

And any specific point of Lucky's, or just "a lot of" them?

[Looker]

VOTE: Quick

We're back in business.

Why

Also, in your opinion, what's the likelihood of brass and quick being scum together?

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Also, @Umlaut: My post right before that one had reads and a post, so why say anything at all if you're not going to reference it? Do you see how you could come off as scummily subjective?

VOTE: brassherald

[Looker]

@Umlaut: And you bought Quick's assertion that I was fabricating a scumread despite what I referenced in the post I voted him?

[Looker]

I'm just trying to figure out why you were on Quick's side.

[Looker]

scummily

subjective

?

*selective

[Looker]

Also, @Umlaut: My post right before that one had reads and a post, so why say anything at all if you're not going to reference it? Do you see how you could come off as scummily subjective?

I don't know, your response to the post bothered me whereas your previous post I just barely cared about at all when I read it. If you think that's scummy of me

then don't try to convince me of that

, vote me or something.

So, pretty much the

same

thing as Quick: "Shut up and don't talk to me."

[Looker]

Also, why is Looked voting for me? It seems other people can understand what I am saying just fine, but Looker is basically voting for me because they don't understand what I wrote? I don't think that is a good reason to vote someone?

You need more Newbie games. (I explained why I voted you when I voted you, but okay.)

Reasons why I voted Quick

This is all pretty much just ad hoc.

That was very dismissive of you.

What exactly was Quick's "read"? Other than I'm dumb?

What exactly was your read other than "I don't understand."

I think this is where I'll stop responding to the majority of your spam.

Looker - what is the point with your obsession with Reundo, farside and myself?
I assume we aren't being voted cuz other people are scummier.

I like Valon's 860 a lot

I literally just wanted someone to answer that, or just mention you guys once. I imagine if you guys were all town, scum would've capitalized on this already. Especially Reundo - he's such an easy target.

Okay, what if Brass is Town? Then it looks like you are building wagons on 2 Town. Do you understand that or naw?

1. Basing reads on "what ifs" is completely purposeless.

Does this mean that you're being purposefully purposeless?

If you were going to ask me more questions, you would have done it INSTEAD of just voting me for not understanding what I was saying. Nice try.

The additional questions I tried to ask you, you called "ad hoc".

VOTE: Quick

pedit: sure thing

Also, @Umlaut: My post right before that one had reads and a post, so why say anything at all if you're not going to reference it? Do you see how you could come off as scummily subjective?

I don't know, your response to the post bothered me whereas your previous post I just barely cared about at all when I read it. If you think that's scummy of me

then don't try to convince me of that

, vote me or something.

So, pretty much the

same

thing as Quick: "Shut up and don't talk to me."

Idk why but I've found Looker's posts so wildly uninteresting that I've skipped them all. Reminder to go back and read them later.

What changed your mind about Quick if you didn't read anything?

Hey remember when you were like "correct." at someone saying who's all in the hood,

after

Hoctac had

already

said who's all in the hood? Lmao.

How is this scummy?

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• Also, I have 13 posts that Zulfy didn't want to read; however, he was happy to read two pages (50 posts) of LuckyLuciano's

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I'm at L-1 because Looker voted Brass.

Okay, my point still stands that either Looker is trying to get wagons on 2 Town (myself and Brass) or Brass is just Scum.

But you're confident enough in brass being town that you're voting me?

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• @Reundo:
  • Do you believe that Quick and everyone in the neighborhood is town?
  • And your reads had no referenced actions or posts to back them up. They were just "Player X is good, Player Y is bad, Player Z is kinda good maybe". What is your read on Umlaut?
• @Umlaut: I wasn't trying to convince you that you were scum - I was trying to show you that I wasn't. Is me conveying my alignment not useful information to you?
  
• @farside22: Is your scumread of me due to Ragman Saul Rima's actions or mine?

[Looker]

I'll just vig brass tonight so we don't have to worry about it tomorrow.

Ame is obvscum. I'll vig her tonight.

Jokes?

Idk why but I've found Looker's posts so wildly uninteresting that I've skipped them all. Reminder to go back and read them later.

I did read tho, I even said when I was done reading, don't u read?

Jokes?

"Changed my mind" suggests I had a different read on Quick before. Why do you think I did mr. Looker?

Your ISO - you never mentioned or voted Quick/Klick.

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• Quick question: What's the average age of everyone here? I get the feeling I'm playing with grade schoolers.

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Alright guy i've finished your ISO. Buckshot question-asking. Not interesting or constructive but don't let me stop you.

Ironic.

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• I'm assuming Quick has resigned himself to trolling.

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• I'm starting to see why people are replacing out.
  
• @Farside: Any room for discussion or was that pretty much end of discussion?
  
• @Umlaut: What did I misrep and are you Zulfy's protectorate?
  • Also, I was trying to give you a chance to explain yourself. If you didn't think it was scummy, you would've said so. Your defensiveness is unwarranted and peculiar.

[Looker]

VOTE: farside

I think that's farside22's first vote of the game.

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• @Umlaut: I think you might be right. I'm very self-centric and assumed the only thing Zulfy could've read to change his thoughts on Quick were the posts I'd written.
  
• @farside22: So definitely end of discussion. Got it.

[Looker]

I'm not falling for your pockets again, Ame

[Looker]

VOTE: brass
Should go after the hood now that we know Quick was telling the truth

Why brass and not hoctac?

VOTE: brassherald L-1

[Looker]

I'm in a mood today

[Looker]

How...am I alive

WIFOM debate is WIFOM.

Looker is the way to go obviously, but can we please not quick lynch this time.

"Obviously"? Why "obviously", and why at all?

VOTE: Ame

I'm lost. Why? And did you change the glasses on your avatar?

Because I can mislynch you. Welcome to my game.

Interesting. This is only the case if Hoc is your partner. Since it is you + Looker this isn't the case. If you cannot convince Hoc I am scum, you will not be able to get it through.

What would be the point of convincing Hoctac ifyou're scum together?

You thought the cop part was a gambit. I figured you would have thought that I was indeed a cop, but simply didn't have a guilty on Cakez and so you would kill me to frame Cakez. I wonder if this was your intention initially and you changed it during the night.

I feel like you're saying all these things because you're bored. This is an obfuscated narrative.

Yes, I am going to take a nap. I will catch up later.

Buy time and fish out the naivete of other posters.

If my result is the only thing keeping you guys from quick lynching as you have been the past two days, I am not going to out it until I am caught up.

LAMIST

The last time I took a nap, I woke up to the day ending. So no.

Other people prioritize playing more than you do, so...

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• Farside was a good kill. Smart. Frame is a frame.
  
• @Umlaut: For lynching brassherald?

VOTE: Hoctac Vanity wagon. Brass and Ame voteparked you for safety.

[Looker]

Ame + Reundo seems plausible to me

No one's noticed that Reundo hasn't posted in a week.

Ame, what do you think of clidd now?

Obv scum. I'll have a full analysis once I'm fully read up. I don't know if his partner is Looker or Cakez. I thought it was Looker before, but now I'm leaning Cakez. There's also a chance it's Zulfy since he didn't seem to believe my claim yesterday, which would imply that he knew Cakez was town.

I think it's Hoctac and Cakez/Reundo

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• @Zulfy
  Spoiler: Was that you being cheeky?

  
  
  
• @clidd: Formatting and transparency. Got it.
  Spoiler:

  
  
  
• Clidd and valoneast are obvtown

[Looker]

Looker what do you suppose is the answer to that question

Spoiler:

Don't know

Can we lynch Ame now

VOTE: Clidd

Kinda jumpy

VOTE: SirCakez

[Looker]

Have you seen this man?

[Looker]

What do you suppose is the answer to that question

[Looker]

See? I

am

learning

[Looker]

Don't hammer. I'll be back in about 2 hours.

[Looker]

I don't have an inno. I investigated Brass.

Why would you vote anyone other than Brass?

I forgot he died. That's convenient, though.

Tbf I understand if I get lynched I have been playing a terrible game and I think my flip will help town
My one frustration is that Ame is open wolfing and getting away with it

There's been nothing terrible about you.

It must take a while to type with one hand.

Finally some humor in this G A M E that people P L A Y

I don't know Luciano's metagame, so I'm not convinced by clidd's argument.
I don't have a problem with #36, but #48 seems off.

Luciano, you are copying a comical approach to RVS for a reason that will be revealed later, and will show clear town motivation?
The fact that you were willingly repeating town posts and then covering up by saying you have reasons which will later be revealed looks like scumtell to me.

Maybe I'll change my mind when I see your reasons, but for now I'm voting for you. Do tell me if I misunderstood your posts.

VOTE: LuckyLuciano

'Opportunistic' is a fun buzzword, especially early-game. I appreciate the insight on Lucky, though.
VOTE: Umlaut

Klick, I may have missed your reason to vote Umlaut. Can you explain why?

This is a guaranteed scum tell. And seeing as Looker coordinated the quickhammer with Brass, it would be silly not to lynch her.

• Which part of this is the scumtell?
  
• How much of me being scum are you hinging on my "coordination" with brassherald lynching himself? Especially when I was trying to lynch him the day before.

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• clidd is town; Ame is not
  
• There is nothing snarky about me. I am a human being.
  
• The Zulfy/Ame voting block is suspicious
  • I don't know what to think of them stopping after clidd's post

VOTE: Ame

[Looker]

How so?

What about it does not make sense to you? And what do you mean by all over the place?

Do you not believe my explanation for withholding my result before, Umlaut? If so, why so?

Do you think Zulfy is the other scum in the hood?

And by someone I mean Umlaut.

I don't understand the specificity.

There is no Zulfy/Ame voting block btw. Huh???

I don't know any other way to explain Posts 1484 and 1488. You guys gave no reasoning for your vote, just jumped in and voted together.

Even if Ame is not playing to scum meta her play is too atrocious to be town

How so?

She's just all over the place and her cop claim makes no sense

I think it's moreso too convenient.

[Looker]

Oh no not 1488!

So it

was

a voting block?

Do you think Zulfy is the other scum in the hood?

1 Are you reading my posts?
2 Why are you asking a ton of questions and never following up on them?

• I am, which is why I'm trying to figure out who you think the second scum in the hood is since you said there was one
  
• How are you making the determination of whether I'm following up on my "ton of questions"?

Hello. What is the know mechanical info? Claims etc.

There is a neighborhood consisting of SirCakez, Clidd, Brass and Auro
I am a 1-shot cop with a claimed guilty on SirCakez
Brass flipped scum (goon I think).

I don't understand why you would change who you said you had your claimed guilty on.

[Looker]

Can we compromise on Looker

Are you trolling?

VOTE: Looker

I will confess I have not really given much thought to this game lately, but I still think my reasons for suspecting Looker on D1 were sound and he has not exactly done anything to make me feel better about him since.

How vague and generic. You're right, it's clear you're not giving much thought. It'd be nice to dissect your relation to Zulfy, though.

VOTE: Cakez

I'm not used to your reasoning being scattered all around the thread - where did you justify your vote for Cakez?

Looker is scum only if Hoc or Clidd is. Otherwise, he would be too demotivated to post as much as she has been.

Spoiler:

How often, if ever, do you get exhausted from playing mafia? And if/when you do, what do you do about it (continue playing in your games but with less effort, replace out and spend time doing X activities, etc)?

This is why I think you're scum. I feel you can't muster up the energy to fake it, so your narratives aren't as coherent.

Spoiler:

Maybe it's time for another alt?

[Looker] - voted brass when we were waiting on my result yesterday

Where did you state your intention to reveal your result that day? You said you were "reading", which I thought was a stall tactic because we replaced in at the same time and I read.

@Ame:
Can you point me to a previous instance where scum!Looker went inactive when a partner of hers was being wagoned?

MN2115
More in this Meta-analysis.

• I haven't processed the meta-analysis, but...
  • Mini 2115 was during an IRL inspection so that's why I couldn't devote much time to it. All I remember is that AaronFrost claimed scum in-thread

Would also lynch B.S.
Just quick ISOed him and yeah no redemption from Reundo there

I was going to disagree with you based on post count, but then I actually read through the posts. I feel the vote on you is sheeped.

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• I'm thinking S{Ame | Zulfy |
  Reundo
  Blatant Scum |
  Valoneast
  Auro | Umlaut | Hoctac | SirCakez | Clidd}T
  
• I'm also tired and busy, so please make any questions/accusations blatant and direct

Changed spoiler tag to spoiler= to be mobile-friendly as per the rules.
~Ircher

[Looker]

Man, that's crazy. I wonder why the guy from Wisconsin won't talk to me.

[Looker]

So bizarre, lol.

[Looker]

btw thanks umlaut. Anyone else down to compromise on Looker?

You're scum with Umlaut, aren't you?

Man, that's crazy. I wonder why the guy from Wisconsin won't talk to me.

I'm not

from

Wisconsin, it's just where I happen to be. I guess I'm a bit Wisconsin-y maybe. Idk what you're implying tho. Are you from Chicago or somethin

What about me says Chicago?

I'm not pushing Looker I just am willing to cut that branch off in lieu of a SirCakez lynch. But that is just semantics. What about it do you dislike?

So you don't think I'm scum?

Well I don't want Ame lynched, cuz she's town.
I want SirCakez lynched cuz she's scum.
But if not enough people are willing to lynch Cakez I'd be up for Looker then. That being said the Ame wagon seems to have run out of steam and the Cakez wagon still has a shot, but even then I kinda just want Looker gone in all honesty cuz uh, he seems like he'll lose us the game.

These tactics typically work for you, don't they? Trying to convince everyone that a single person is stupid? Mob mentality?

Well damne.

That's a poor attempt at feigning surprise. Umlaut immediately went into the plan you guys devised in your scum thread.

I am a dreamer. That is basically a weakened rolecop - I get to know one ability type my target can perform, excluding nightkill.
If I visit doctor, I get protective. If I visit JOAT (cop, doctor), I get protective or investigative (50% for each result). If I visit mafia goon, I get nothing. If I visit 1-shot cop who used his ablity, I get nothing.

N1: Farside - nothing
N2: Looker - nothing
N3: Umlaut - nothing

This semi-clears Umlaut, because a goon is dead and I except mafia to not have >1 goons.

I'm okay with Umlaut being a goon. I'm also okay with remaining scum being in {Umlaut | Zulfy |

Reundo

Blatant Scum}

That is correct. I am a traitor. I don't have any PT.

So you're scum? If not, what could you gain from fakeclaiming? I'm under the impression real scum know who's scum.

*sigh*
Fine, I am a Follower. I just didn't want mafia to stay at home in order to trick me.

Did you think forfeiting a NK was worth avoiding you?

Here is my suggestion:
1) no lynch today
2) Hoctac shoots someone from the neighboardhood. If we have only two dead tommorow, he is confirmed.
3) clidd checks out Umlaut tonight.

You don't think this is making space for roleblocks/stops?

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• I'm never a troll.
  
• Umlaut's "case" on me is our disagreement over him calling my response to Quick's...dialogue...?...a bad post. I also think he doesn't like that I called him out for being so protective of Zulfy.
  
• If we're doing PoE's, I'll update mine to S{Umlaut | Zulfy |
  Reundo
  Blatant Scum |
  Valoneast
  Auro | Hoctac | Clidd}T
  
• Do you have any clue what "pass" Umlaut is saying I've gotten this game?
  
• I think Clidd did the right thing by not making his crumbs too obvious; then he would've been NK'd

VOTE: Umlaut

[Looker]

bro are u like mad

Who?

I think Clidd is scum.

Think he's a mafia goon

I don't believe his claim at all

And above that I don't believe his play

Do you think this is a fishing attempt to out PRs with private communication?

We can treat Looker as an IC. Agree?

I usually get treated like a VI.

You weren't really in the radar and I'm very radar-centric.
I just haven't had a reason to think you might be scum.

It's kind of convenient to not have to commit to a read.

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• Zulfy pushed me because he's from Wisconsin.
  
• Umlaut has a hard-on for my hammer in Micro 938.
  
• I'll claim when and if Clidd tells me to.

[Looker]

foo

Spoiler:

Do you think this is a fishing attempt to out PRs with private communication?

No I think it's an attempt to make the lynch be in the hood.

I thought it was to implicate Umlaut, who is not in the hood.

Also you have already functionally claimed VT Looker.

Functionally claimed? Or has been mechanically claimed?

Is it Clidd and Umlaut? That's how it goes is it.

It's clidd and somebody.

Do you feel it's more likely to be clidd and somebody than Umlaut and somebody?

1990
You don't make that post as a PR unless you: didn't read anything (could be tbf could be) or you're not a PR cuz you're a VT, which you (he: Looker) are.

Pedit: I gotta write the post gosh

You don't think this is ironic? Since you started off saying you didn't read any of my posts

Spoiler:

Also, @Umlaut: My post right before that one had reads and a post, so why say anything at all if you're not going to reference it? Do you see how you could come off as scummily subjective?

I don't know, your response to the post bothered me whereas your previous post I just barely cared about at all when I read it. If you think that's scummy of me

then don't try to convince me of that

, vote me or something.

So, pretty much the

same

thing as Quick: "Shut up and don't talk to me."

Idk why but I've found Looker's posts so wildly uninteresting that I've skipped them all. Reminder to go back and read them later.

Either way, I'm not seeing what you're getting at, and it just looks like you're rolefishing to me.

Anyone who thinks I'm scum is either:
*Looker
*Needing to put more thought into it
*scum

Those are your 3 choices.

Lol, I'm taking this to mean that I'm not scum and that I don't need to put any more thought into it

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• I wish I could help with setup spec, but I don't Mod games

[Looker]

Sorry, rough week

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Lynching in the hood today is balls

Are you pushing for a no lynch by not voting?

Coming up with the occasional "analysis" post isn't difficult. What they're *doing* matters.

Who are you going to lynch?

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• I'm VT.

[Looker]

tell me who to vote

Umlaut

VOTE: zulfy

ehh i don't really care right now. Zulfy works as a vote till i actually have thoughts.

I'm thinking Umlaut and Auro/Zulfy

traitors are gay and are probably not in this game my dude.

The game doesn't factor in sexual orientation

ohh ircher designed this.

Yeah there could be traitors. Ircher has bad taste in roles/game design

Jesus

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• People are rioting everywhere.
  
• I'm wavering between Auro and Zulfy (prefer Auro at this point), but I won't be unvoting Umlaut.

[Looker]

Shouldn't the votecount say Firebringer instead of Blatant Scum?

Changed. Thanks.
~Ircher

[Looker]

Looker, there's a non zero chance I get a result on umlaut tonight. id really rather keep that option on the table

I refuse to believe that both you and Umlaut are town. Pull the traitor narrative or whatever you want, but I don't believe both of you are town.

scum have to be either:

Hoctac/Micc
Hoctac/Umlaut

Why would scum!Hoctac perform a killing action on Micc if Micc is scum.

Sure but then lynching Hoctac wins the game anyway

Agreed that if we believe it we lynch Hoctac, but solving the game is still good.

Umm, Auro+Fire means I was trying to get my traitor lynched yesterday and why would I do that?

But what about

valoneast

Auro/Umlaut? It baffles me that Umlaut wasn't lynched yesterday.

Probably Micc + Auro though.

Which means both people on my wagon are probably town and a quickhammer is most likely imminent. Nice.

We're going to have to create another category of V/LA called C/LA, for Conveniently Limited Access. It's interesting how you get to cherrypick when and when not to speak.

I intend to vote Hoctac as long as Looker doesn't come in with a meaningful mechanical contribution.

I have no meaningful contribution, mechanical or otherwise.

VOTE: Auro

[Looker]

I almost never understand what's going on inside Looker's head, but I respect them nonetheless.

It's disheartening that you'd have to point out that you respect the thoughts of others.

VOTE: Micc

Is Hoctac town, or are you doing this for your optics again?

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• Can I get one post with all the claimed roles and night actions?
  
• It weirds me out that clidd claimed Umlaut as scum, but he replaced out and now their slots are voting together

[Looker]

If this is going to be a 2v2 I’m not really willing to engage in an argument to convince the other side they’re scum.

If umlaut/looker want to engage I’ll be around to respond

Is it Hoctac/Auro vs Micc/Firebringer? I was starting to get the impression you and Auro were on the same side.

Why would scum!Hoctac perform a killing action on Micc if Micc is scum.

because scum!Hoctac doesn't know Micc is his Traitor.

Do you feel like scum traitors know the identity of the mafia team in this game?

u took a u-turn when u realized that looker is gonna vote u tomorrow anyways.

How was this determined?

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• I wish Ircher would've put his clarification in-thread. I'm not sure whether failed Disloyal attempts are still trackable. All I currently have is Umlaut's word that that's what the Mod said.
  
• I don't know how I'm supposed to take "You're wrong" as an adequate argument
  
• Auro's trying to bluff me, and, meanwhile, I think Hoctac's starting to actually take his V/LA seriously
  
• I'm going to be personally incapable of lynching Umlaut due to his new avatar

[Looker]

I knew it

[Looker]

Is conceding mechanical or voluntary?

[Looker]

Well well-played everyone, I was thoroughly confused and that was fun.

I had a PoE of {Auro | Hoctac | Umlaut | Firebringer | Micc}, but the no NK threw me

Good game, would replace in again. Fun times.