Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[Chaos Triforce]

VOTE: Johnny
one of my favorite people

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

noraaaaa!
cute avi

plus!!!!!!!!!!
shankies

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

If I'm your favorite then sheep me silly

O_o NU

[Chaos Triforce]

Scumreading CHAOS TRIFORCE for COWARDICE

<.< u mean. wait til squigglybop and puffilybop come kick u

-bubblybop(nornor)

[Chaos Triforce]

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

I find it funny that I dont know which of squiggles and puffles the above is

-bubblynoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

I think its prolly squiggles tho lol

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

mine!

[Chaos Triforce]

mine!

[Chaos Triforce]

bubbles stole the page top

-bubbles the noraa

[Chaos Triforce]

And the Noraa part is 8/10 of it i believe

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Im being a quiet bear in case you hasn't noticed.

-Nornornornornornor

[Chaos Triforce]

O_o
o_O
O_O
*suspicion rising*

-bearbear

[Chaos Triforce]

-suspiciousbearbear

[Chaos Triforce]

*suspcion drops bc ari has a HALO*
:O :O

-screamingnoraabeario

on a more serious note, GIMME DAT HALO

[Chaos Triforce]

*runs away*
im not tasty. donut eat me. I offers donuts as payment for not eating me.
*holds a big donut up*

-scaredtsunami

[Chaos Triforce]

I means Noraa goes by Noraa, tsunami, bear, and bubbly. Any weird combo of those words still be me

-noraathegreen

[Chaos Triforce]

tabletop from earlier was probably Squiggles.

-bubblies

[Chaos Triforce]

Yah sorry it's just.. I've never played a 10 day phase game before so, I needed to confirm what my eyes saw.

wait so what is ur prfpc exactly?

-curiousbearbear

[Chaos Triforce]

MINE

[Chaos Triforce]

hehehe

-noraathepagetopsnatcher

[Chaos Triforce]

guillotine

tf is a gUiLlOtInE

[Chaos Triforce]

?!

[Chaos Triforce]

Google says : a machine with a heavy blade sliding vertically in grooves, used for beheading people.

WELP
*gulps*

-scarednoraaio

[Chaos Triforce]

guillotine

tf is a gUiLlOtInE

Have you ever heard of a little thing called the French Revolution?

It's a fun time! The guillotine was Maximilien Robespierre's favourite play toy during it (well, until it got the better of him...)

Fun fact about Aristophanes: I once went out for Halloween dressed as Robespierre!
Nobody got it, but it was great fun! XD

@_@

-confusiontsunami

[Chaos Triforce]

*shudders* I still be scared

-frightenednornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Im obviously secretly a 103 year old. y'all just didnt know

-YOUR ELDER NORNOR

[Chaos Triforce]

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

This site is stuck 5 years in the past

God what was I even doing five years ago?

-badmemorynora

[Chaos Triforce]

Probably being born tbh

Clearly Im 5 years old

[Chaos Triforce]

Clearly XD

Thats where ur wrong aristo, I is 2 yrs old :3

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Wait, Talk, Scum hunt, PROFIT

-lolzersnoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

wow four pages of nothingness and site meta discussion

-puffles (secret member no.2 im not that tabletop dude)

[Chaos Triforce]

this feels like a townie reaction to me, more genuine and cutting the fluff to get into and advance gamestate

plus feels like town

I have extensive experience with plus and im confident calling myself the plus meta expert, and generally town!plus does weird things but does genuine solving

guillotina also prob wouldn't be so clueless if they were in a scum pt

[Chaos Triforce]

-puffles

i hate signing

-puffles

[Chaos Triforce]

this feels like a townie reaction to me, more genuine and cutting the fluff to get into and advance gamestate

plus feels like town

I have extensive experience with plus and im confident calling myself the plus meta expert, and generally town!plus does weird things but does genuine solving

guillotina also prob wouldn't be so clueless if they were in a scum pt

Cool. Puffles can sort Plus. I cannot read Plus whatsoever so if you can, that'll be best.

-norbearbear

[Chaos Triforce]

I was also thinking plus was town there

why did you think plus was town sheeper

-P I'm lazy

[Chaos Triforce]

hello superb owl, how are you doing on this fine day

i kinda dislike how the tangent about ms site culture has dragged on for so long tbh, feels like an opportunity for scum to hide
-P

[Chaos Triforce]

Good to know you’re town

why is johnny town

imo their entrance didn't ping either way
-S

[Chaos Triforce]

why is johnny town

imo their entrance didn't ping either way
-Puffles

whoops

[Chaos Triforce]

If you think that was a long tangent you should see the game I just played...

Also I think you’re scum so I’m not gonna answer 101 for now

superb owl should I BoP scumread you?
-P

[Chaos Triforce]

pob's vote on us is pretty scummy. Getting into fights/being aggressive is usually town-indicative, but he's spinning it to look scum-indicative for us. Only thing that's pinged me as potentially fake so far.

pob, why do you read us as scum who wants to hide in crapfights rather than eager town?

I'll leave our vote in the hands of my better thirds. I don't trust myself.

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

I'm also immediately paranoid of Guillo being an experienced played pretending to be new, but it's just a

feeling

.

Guillo, why didn't you play any newbie games?

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

I got the impression that was off-site. You don't think it's fair to ask why he didn't join the newbie queue if he still considers himself a newbie?

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

I'm a fan of superbowl's easy going style and throwing out gut reads, I think the looseness is pretty towny.

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

If you think that was a long tangent you should see the game I just played...

Also I think you’re scum so I’m not gonna answer 101 for now

dis post interesting. you'll have to expand on that SR.

VOTE: Chaos Triforce wants so so badly to look town

uh huh that's absolutely what's happening here.

I fucking hate secret alts, can we just kill that?

What do you mean,

no?

/sigh

Guess I'll read.

I think I've only played with Gams and bowl before.

The rest? Be ready for hatefucking. See you soon~

Pedit: WHAT'S UP YOU UGLY SUMBITCH!

RUDE

this feels like a townie reaction to me, more genuine and cutting the fluff to get into and advance gamestate

plus feels like town

I have extensive experience with plus and im confident calling myself the plus meta expert, and generally town!plus does weird things but does genuine solving

guillotina also prob wouldn't be so clueless if they were in a scum pt

Cool. Puffles can sort Plus. I cannot read Plus whatsoever so if you can, that'll be best.

-norbearbear

is puffles shelly
if there is a noraa and shelly hydra im gonna have to policy elim it, the chances of mafia are just too high

Hello. Excuse me. We made it a secret hydra. Guessing is kind of rude in this context as normally if they are secret, they had reason to do that and wish for that to stay the same. We do not tolerate guesses and its really annoying. I dont want to hear anymore of this guessing. I'm the only revealed member and that's all you're allowed to speculate.

-SaltytheNoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

shellyc being in the chaos hydra changes my rvs approach
VOTE: triforce
they are too dangerous to be left alive
im also betting shelly is the azula in the trio

Hello again! That is rude. Does Plusjoyed enjoy getting policy limmed?

-saltythenoraabackatitagain

[Chaos Triforce]

No more spectating on who is in this hydra. Two heads are anonymous. Dont make me angry.

-flaminghotnorbear

[Chaos Triforce]

well when you say your a plusjoyed meta expert that narrows the list pretty hard

doesn't matter and idc. no spectating.

-angrynoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

Crap i responded inside the quotes. 100% karma.

I'm also immediately paranoid of Guillo being an experienced played pretending to be new, but it's just a

feeling

.

Guillo, why didn't you play any newbie games?

For a few reasons.

1) This site's layout is still confusing to me.
2) Because I wanted to join a game, whichever came first.
3) I learn faster playing with experienced players so even if I knew there were newbie games, I would have still joined this one.

Question: I wouldn't have joined if I found out it was a 10-day-Day Phase though. Are newbie games shorter?

-tabletop

I got the impression that was off-site. You don't think it's fair to ask why he didn't join the newbie queue if he still considers himself a newbie?

It's fair, just irrelevant and a tiny bit suspicious.

-tabletop

bit defensive. Might agree with squiggles on a SR here

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I'm a fan of superbowl's easy going style and throwing out gut reads, I think the looseness is pretty towny.

-tabletop

You’re right but i’m not accepting buddies at this time sadly

No worries. Squiggles is the only one of us three that is TRing you. As long as Puffles SLs you, this hydra will by majority vote SR you.

-noraa

[Chaos Triforce]

Spoiler:

Crap i responded inside the quotes. 100% karma.

I'm also immediately paranoid of Guillo being an experienced played pretending to be new, but it's just a

feeling

.

Guillo, why didn't you play any newbie games?

For a few reasons.

1) This site's layout is still confusing to me.
2) Because I wanted to join a game, whichever came first.
3) I learn faster playing with experienced players so even if I knew there were newbie games, I would have still joined this one.

Question: I wouldn't have joined if I found out it was a 10-day-Day Phase though. Are newbie games shorter?

-tabletop

I got the impression that was off-site. You don't think it's fair to ask why he didn't join the newbie queue if he still considers himself a newbie?

It's fair, just irrelevant and a tiny bit suspicious.

-tabletop

bit defensive. Might agree with squiggles on a SR here

-nornor

Actually no. Think about it. An experienced player who is a newbie to the site they are playing, is an experienced player's nightmare at the site they are a regular on.

It makes me unpredictable and scum want as much control of the room as possible, so unpredictability is something they want to avoid. This is why newbies always die first and this is why your push on me is a tiny bit suspicious.

Lol what'd you say? Newbies always die first? Whats with this lame ass AtE? Hope you realize that Im prolly newer than you considering you had played mafia on another site. My first time playing mafia was on this site so even if my start date is a bit earlier than yours, im more new than you unless u spent like two weeks on your old site :/

-dontuseAtEonme

[Chaos Triforce]

^this AtE only works if I believe you are newer than me which I currently dont unfortunately

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Spoiler:

Crap i responded inside the quotes. 100% karma.

I'm also immediately paranoid of Guillo being an experienced played pretending to be new, but it's just a

feeling

.

Guillo, why didn't you play any newbie games?

For a few reasons.

1) This site's layout is still confusing to me.
2) Because I wanted to join a game, whichever came first.
3) I learn faster playing with experienced players so even if I knew there were newbie games, I would have still joined this one.

Question: I wouldn't have joined if I found out it was a 10-day-Day Phase though. Are newbie games shorter?

-tabletop

I got the impression that was off-site. You don't think it's fair to ask why he didn't join the newbie queue if he still considers himself a newbie?

It's fair, just irrelevant and a tiny bit suspicious.

-tabletop

bit defensive. Might agree with squiggles on a SR here

-nornor

Actually no. Think about it. An experienced player who is a newbie to the site they are playing, is an experienced player's nightmare at the site they are a regular on.

It makes me unpredictable and scum want as much control of the room as possible, so unpredictability is something they want to avoid. This is why newbies always die first and this is why your push on me is a tiny bit suspicious.

Lol what'd you say? Newbies always die first? Whats with this lame ass AtE? Hope you realize that Im prolly newer than you considering you had played mafia on another site. My first time playing mafia was on this site so even if my start date is a bit earlier than yours, im more new than you unless u spent like two weeks on your old site :/

-dontuseAtEonme

^this AtE only works if I believe you are newer than me which I currently dont unfortunately

-nornor

Now who is being defensive? Im talking from my personal experience, that's all. I havent been to a site where i'm new and i dont get lynch first, so i figured it must be because it makes me unpredictable threat to scum. Unluckily for scum in this particular game is that it is a 10-day one so i got plenty of time to study you.

You can't pull your noob card out if someone newer hasn't pulled it yet. Jus doesn't work bud.

-Nornortheinfant

[Chaos Triforce]

VOTE: Chaos Triforce

GuEsSiNg WhO tHe SeCrEtS aRe UpSeT mE

Fucking die, thanks. More at 11.

This replacement makes my job harder considering he is um ... p scummy regardless of alignment :/

-Norbearthescumhuntinggod

[Chaos Triforce]

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

hello there! Do you actually not understand that taytay is joking?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

i dont think you read my post. because if you had read my post youd see that the listmods have stated that im not allowed to roll scum. so im town in every single game. check my completed games. i was town in all of them. check my egosearch. you wont see any scum PTs. usually im an IC, so this whole not being mod-confirmed thing is strange.

Whaaat? I didnt know that was a thing. So...where can i see the listmods? I dont see it in the OP

Bro. you can't actually believe this....

-nowaynoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

I dont

uh huh I sure see that.

-sarcasticmeanbear

[Chaos Triforce]

Noraa hasn't scumread me yet so that's a red flag

Do you know how hard I've tried to not SR you this game? You just always look scummy af. To the point that I'm not even gunna try sorting you. If puffles and squiggles can, I'm not doing it.

-nor

[Chaos Triforce]

this site meta is shit.

a bit rude if I do say so myself. hope you realize that RVS is actually where you'll find a lot of interesting things. Maybe it seems to you like we're just bullshitting the first five pages but I am certain there are people here that got something out of it. RVS is a time where scums come out to get their "free town cred" but that town cred aint free if they get caught for it.

-bubbles

[Chaos Triforce]

This site is still <20 years old

dang this site is basically a baby.

-babynoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

VOTE: superbowl9

hypocrisy isn't scum indicative :/

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

no 'town cred' should be given in RVS for either town or scum. how does that logic even make sense? why would anyone get any town cred besides from like a decisive meta reasons?

RVS is certainly a time when scums should come out and pocket some people. They get weak towncred for seeming active and if they move the game state out of rvs. I believe RVS is crucial and a great time to be searching for scum.

-fluffynoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

sorry if my words were rude. that was not my intent. can you explain your thoughts on superbowl and my exchange though?

If you expect me to pay a shit ton of attention to 1v1's, ur quite mistaken. I've skimmed it and so far it just looks dumb and contentless.

-Nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

From what I understand its literally like this:
Doubting: Day 1 is stupid
superbowl: be the change you want to see
Doubting: shut up! day 1 is stupid

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

see your shading continues. you dare to shade my push on him which includes a lot more than just hypocrisy by saying that hypocrisy isn't scum indicative?

lmao ok sure thats clearly what I'm doing

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Doubting Thomas, who do you think you are that two whole scums(according to your little "solve") are gonna both come full speed shading at you day 1?

-lolzers

[Chaos Triforce]

you seem to just think anyone that disagrees with you is scum

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Come on you were supposed to post that in the PT!!

OOPS. *scurries to go find the pt*
*tells Super Bowl we are doing a great job shading Doubting*
no eavesdropping! Yes I'm talking to you Mara <.<

-Bubbles

[Chaos Triforce]

I do not SR you Doubting. I believe your pushes are stupid tho. You had a lil "thing" with superbowl and I dont have a stance on it and you make it seem like I'm stupid when I dont happen to take your side. Thats not how the world works. Even if you are town, you cannot expect people to simply agree with you and get angry when they dont. I disagree with you and instead of trying to understand why or trying to push your point across, you just kinda go "you dont agree, SCUM"
You say I'm misrepping but ur just being all out unreasonable. If you want to talk to me some more about this, drop the "I'm right" attitude and I'm willing to listen to as many walls as you have.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

perhaps stupid is too hard a word to use here. Let's just say I cannot understand your thought process at all.

-bubbles

[Chaos Triforce]

*harsh

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Haha you're making this so much harder than it needs to be. I won't engage you any more and leave that to Squiggles who is great at talking nicely even when pissed(or so I think O_o) I have an idea on what alignment I think you are but I am not engaging you anymore. My partners will do that while I sit on the beach eating my ice cream

-Nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

One of these heads is whoever Cobra Kai is, I’m calling it.

No spectating. *kicks gamma really hard*

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

So but Doubting was also directing that at me. How come only "he"(Super Bowl) gets attention >:(

-angrynoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

Guilottina do u come from the werewolf mafia site?

-curiousbear

[Chaos Triforce]

Its like werewolv.es or something?

-curiousthebear

[Chaos Triforce]

welp nvm then.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

^what's that supposed to mean O_o

-confuzzlednorbear

[Chaos Triforce]

speculating

tay tay dont make me kick you <.<

-taytay's site wide fan club manager

[Chaos Triforce]

noraa you know i care deeply for you.

*sniffles*

-sadnoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

taytay no like me.
*sits in my corner*

-sadnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

*snifflies*

-sadnornor

okie I'll shush

[Chaos Triforce]

im a noob and it means i cant possibly be scum. pls no vote

Wrong statement.

I owned a group of highly experienced players in a game where i was a mafia goon and a noob.

Just like im gonna own a group of wolves in this one as a newbie town. Don't underestimate the power of noobs.

Pretty towny

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

YO SUPERBOWL DID YOU RAND SCUM WITHOUT ME!?

You’ll know if you’re dead by tomorrow

I see this specifically coming from scum more than town.

-norbear

[Chaos Triforce]

I think I agree with table on the TR on guillotine. There was one post that pinged me as really towny earlier.

-nronor

[Chaos Triforce]

Idk if I had been clear on this yet, but I feel like they generally haven’t been impressive, and Noraa in particular seems a bit off I think? To put a pinpoint on one of my issues, I feel like they’re a bit overly defensive about everything.

You're probs scum for this post specifically.
1) if I remember correctly, we are a big wagon which is great reason for scum to jump on just by itself
2) you've played with me in legit like 5 games and ik very well that you know defensiveness is a character trait
3) you literally haven't mentioned us a single time up until this vote

solid SR right here. very solid.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

also lol is that RapMonster? I am Korean myself. don't really like him

How'd u not recognize mine?!

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Nvm im in a hydra. Other prfpc :/

-ughnoraa

[Chaos Triforce]

The statement "You’ll know if you’re dead by tomorrow" almost reads as TMI to me. Why do you want a case on sueprbowl chkflip? Didn't even SR him yet and ur getting impatient?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

butt buddy

thank you for making me choke on my orange juice.

-orangejuicenornor

[Chaos Triforce]

plusjoyed is giving town reads on his friends like government is giving out food stamps to the poor, wtf?

Plus is generally extremely hard to read. I have never ever not SRed him in a game before. Like thats how scummy I perceive him as and its so scummy that I can never stop myself. My conclusion is plus is scummy af. Just hope there is a vig in the game that vigs him. If there isn't, then you have to concentrate and make things right your own way :/

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I feel like im in a newbie

why

Watch out for ari this game tho plus don’t just shove that in town

agree, was in another game with him where he was town recently enough and I think his vibe here is different
he feels a bit tepid this game, is the best way to put it

is ari plusjoyed?

Ari's the one thats vla.

-informationnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

that would be level 0 read, gamma. very disappoint.

agreed. Pretending scum buddies dont exist is very good distancing strategy and I dont think town!gamma is this .... trusting

[Chaos Triforce]

in addition scumteam has daytalk so you could probably ask there (and that probably also discredits the possibility of a dt+pj team)

another no effort read.

[Chaos Triforce]

Gamma is p obvi scum here.

[Chaos Triforce]

^all the above not signed posts wuz nor the bear bear

[Chaos Triforce]

Chaos, What do you think about chkflip?

he has like two posts. he's a p scummy player. I've never played with him before. I came close to once where he got eliminated day 1 and I replaced into the game night 1. From what I know, his playstyle is extremely scummy and he is LHF.

-nornorbear

[Chaos Triforce]

good deal.
your overreaction tells me you aren't happy with the game state. You've also been avoiding noraa iirc, it's resuring me that I was right about you. Thanks for making this easy

This post pings weird. Plus is indirectly saying that I am town because why would scum avoid a scum? Plus is trying to say that scum!Doubting is avoiding a questioning town!Noraa which is very conflicting with Plus' previous read on our slot.

-Nornorthedetectivefoundsomething

[Chaos Triforce]

It's dumb but PJ doesn't strike me as the pinnacle of intellectual play.

Stuff like this can be quite hurtful from the receiving end. From now on, every time I see something like this that I think is absolutely unnecessary and just hurtful, I'm gonna point it out.

-bekindpeople

[Chaos Triforce]

I'm saying what PJ is doing is dumb

dont be mean >:(

Like can someone explain to me if this thought process is incorrect?

- You like playing mafia
- You are not great at this game
- Someone who (you aren't sure if they are mafia or town to begin with) points out that you have lied about reading posts

- SURE you don't HAVE to read everything that's said in the game. I don't either. However, when I pushed someone and someone points out that I was lying, like my first reaction isn't to react with hostility and say that that person is rude and try to shrug off the lying part I have conducted as if it's nothing. Like acknowledge that you lied and then maybe even reevaluate your pushes because obviously you haven't done a great job in pushing that place if someone pointed out that you've lied?

but you doubling down on me despite me pointing out your own fault , a fault that you admit was yours, doesn't strike me as townie at all

I think this whole thing isn't something anyone needs to read too hard into. Contradicting themselves in their own little posts is something that needs to be noted but doesn't need to be discussed to *this* extent. I think y'all are making something out of nothing and a read that basically gets pulled out of thin air is just bad. I mean, I can't blame you considering I did this exact same thing to plus every single time I played with him but its at a point where I'm just trying to leave him be and try to sort him later in the game. I am not capable, as studies show, at sorting plus day 1. It just doesn't work.

this game is a shitshow rn. im just gonna sheep gamma for today.

try again. Gamma thinks I'm scum. Dont tell me you do as well.

-bearbeartsunami

[Chaos Triforce]

@DT given your certainty about PJ, would you say that the Hydra team is spewed town as a result? Or do you think they are w/w and just did pretty good theater?

why do you think they are spewed town? because she voted them initially?

i think PJ being scum makes them more likely to be town, but i prob won't clear them. i probably won't push the hydra slot anymore today though

Yes. PJ advocated it for a policy lynch against Chaos, that would piss me off to the point of making a shitstorm, but Chaos took graciously and even said that they are trying hard not to scum read PJ. The reaction is odd.

Lol do you think everyone is you?

-lolzers

[Chaos Triforce]

noraa how should we be reading johnny and why?

I dont know how to read Johnny atm. Im in the process of figuring it out.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Is trash scum?

trash is always the imposter.

-noraabear

[Chaos Triforce]

But like is it more likely to have a red role PM

No. P sure chkflip just is scummy regardless of alignment. All this scumminess prolly doesn't lean either way. Ii think its mostly just all we have to do here to look for opportunistic scum vibes and thats it.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

You and I are both the type to be wrong on our most straightforward reads but be more tuned in on our subconscious SRs, I believe.
What’s your read list like rn?

Then I remember that you were the one that called me scum in like ur fifth post in this game. ur scum. there's no changing my mind here.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

AAAAAAAAND THAT CONCLUDES MY READUP
YAY IM DONE!
*sips some ice cold water*

-relaxednornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Also you say I can’t change your mind but I know that’s a paper-thin claim.

It's something that is put there for reactions. Ur reaction was lame and didn't ping either way so ur still a SR.

-norbear

[Chaos Triforce]

because if there’s someone bothering you and me simultaneously that might be a good person to home in on.

Uh huh. So you just care SOOOOOO much about your SR's reads? So much that you'd flip around and vote with them the moment they SR you?

-LOLYOUARESCUM

[Chaos Triforce]

Im having a hard time reading this game with a very dominant presence in the room(DT)
I feel like they kind of .... scare everyone a bit and this ends up making everyone act not like they normally do. Then, reading is difficult.

[Chaos Triforce]

-nornami

[Chaos Triforce]

Would you say I have more pressure on me than you rn? I dont give two shits what you say unless ur gunna obvtown cuz whatever ur doing rn is just making that SR stronger. Im not reassessing unless you start towning up.

-nor

[Chaos Triforce]

Question is whether you’ll live to see it.

threatening me when your buddying doesn't work eh?
VOTE: Gamma

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

In 48 hours I want you to reread this exchange and tell me what you think looking back. Personal challenge.

Im a stubborn asshole. 48 hours later, I'm gonna think ur scum anyways. Nothing about that convo is gunna change my mind. Your actions in the future have the potential to do exactly that but telling me to go read something that I already read again and trying to say your perspective is better isn't gonna do anything good for you.

Oh I’ll definitely obvtown. Question is whether you’ll live to see it.

Not a good look Gamma. What the hell is that supposed to mean?

I pointed this out as well but I find you scummy for sheeping me but not giving me credit. Feels a bit like the "I'll take credit for this but then if all goes wrong, someone else suggested it first so its alright"
I may be overthinking tho, I admit.

Im saying Noraa’s lifespan tends to be shorter than mine in practice

rude.

noraa how should we be reading johnny and why?

I dont know how to read Johnny atm. Im in the process of figuring it out.

-nornor

Like in this game or just in general? because FROPPY WON"T TELL ME MY SCUMTELLS AND I WANNA KNOW THEM

most people won't tell u what ur scum tells are LOL. The reason is that once you know them, you will manipulate them and they will no longer be scum tells.

Yikes. My PoE got bigger... this sucks.

Town Leans

• Gamma Force
  Aristophane
  DoubtingThomas

Null

• pob long
  Chaos Triforce

Scum Leans

• chkflip
  Johnny Farrar
  Tayl0r Swift
  superbowl9
  Plusjoyed

explain why we got moved to null. You never mentioned why but just moved us up as we started get TRed by more people.

-Nornor

fuck I'm sorry.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

this is the most toxic mafia game I've ever played

be-because of me?

-ididntthinkiwasbeingtoxicnornor:(

[Chaos Triforce]

VOTE: superbowl9

:3

Forgot to say but this newcomer's prfpc is smexy. Not really but its cute

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I see no reason to continue spending my freetime playing a forum game to be insulted by strangers on the internet who obsess on winning a game with no stakes behind it. I don't feel like I'm the only one who feels this game has become toxic either. I'm replacing out.

NOOOOOOOO. Plus

-nornorissadnow

[Chaos Triforce]

limp dick johnny

good thing I wasn't drinking orange juice this time

-orangejuicenornor

god catching up is difficult

Fuck me. Pls no mod kill. it wasn't on purpose

-snifflynornor

[Chaos Triforce]

yeah i feel like guillo is being intentionally toxic to rile us up because scum. guillo isnt always like this.

This doesn't sound like town!Taylor. Town!Taylor doesn't give two shits what anyone thinks about anything/anyone. Hmmmmmm.

backs off like limp dick johnny when I push back

I'm sorry????

I didn't think this was referencing Johnny but if it is, someones gonna fight an overprotective Noraa for it. Square up. *insert scary looking emoji*

-Protectiveofallmyhydrabuddiesnorbear

[Chaos Triforce]

Chaos

Lol except for the fact that you have too many people disagreeing with you and you can't exactly tell us there are six scum or something.

[Chaos Triforce]

-forgottosignnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

On page 13.

VOTE: Chaos Triforce

Ok. Now's where you write a whole analytical essay about why

-youreditornornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Also you down to hop on guillotina chaos? I think it's as good a D1 elim as we're gonna get

I believe both my partners TR him so by majority in our team, we TR that slot and will not vote there. We're all down for gamma tho (well technically we haven't even talked about gamma but like shhhh :/)

-sadnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Im a stubborn asshole. 48 hours later, I'm gonna think ur scum anyways. Nothing about that convo is gunna change my mind. Your actions in the future have the potential to do exactly that but telling me to go read something that I already read again and trying to say your perspective is better isn't gonna do anything good for you.

The idea there was to get your mind off me so you’d be able to look back later and maybe see that you’re tunneling. But it seems clear you’re not interested in any level of re-evaluation, and are in fact trying to act like your hydra is in unison on me, when you’ve not even actually talked about me amongst yourselves at all.

Tell me why I should be trusting your motives here?

if everyone is null on you, my SR gets priority and how it is currently is everyone is null on you. Plus, I can convince all of the heads I think. Is shading me really fun for you gamma? Sure seems like ur having a good time.

-i'vefoundscum

[Chaos Triforce]

Like, one of the plays I made in the Haunted Village game was to bluff about not having a solid line of communication with my hydra partner. The only real truth there was the part about us having a temporary falling out that resulted in him quitting the game. It feels like you’re doing something similar by trying to act like you’re playing unilaterally when really you’ve stolen the wheel here.

You're using the fact that I'm in a hydra against me. If none of my partners comment on something, whoever says something about it gets to call it. If they disagree, this'll end up changing. Why are you focusing so much on whether or not all of the heads agree with me on a SR on you rather than focusing on the SR itself? You're literally trying to be like "Noraa your reads are bullshit and it seems like none of your partners agree with it so shut up now"

Trying to make a townie shut up is super scummy. If you were town, you'd talk it out instead of being like "LMAO YALL DONT AGREE WITH EACH OTHER YET SO I CAN JUST DISCREDIT"

I defo think this is scum behavior. Town doesn't focus on whether or not the heads of a hydra agree on a SR on them to discredit the head that is SRing. Town replies to the SR and doesn't think much about the heads.

-Nornorhazcaughtscum

[Chaos Triforce]

Town Lean

Cat
Chaos
Taylor
Johnny

goodness gracious we moved up ranks fast

-nornorissusofuatm

[Chaos Triforce]

Although it seems guillo completely backtracked on the “Gamma is actually town because he chose to agress me” thing. What the heck’s up with that shit?

Gamma's tone is extremely off this game. He is not thinking from a town perspective this game. It's because him role pm is the color red.

Johnny, back me up. You were in Betrayal mafia. Is the tone off or no? If you say no, I'm gonna start pulling quotes from betrayal.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I'm tunneled but I believe my tunnel is correct. People, talk to me about gamma. Those catfights from earlier are hard to read into.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Gamma reads different in this game than he did in our two previous games together. But also both of those games were WEIRD AS FUCK so not willing to act on that.

Hmm ... Johnny partner equity just went up a tiny bit. I missed that post first time round.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

noraa. convince me why gamma is scum or let her live d1. she's not posting poorly unlike some of her mates in this game

Rather than telling me why he isn't scum, he is choosing to discredit all of my posts by saying we're a messy hydra and dont even agree with each other.

Town NEVER does that.

Im signing as just "Noraa" to show how serious this is.

-noraa

[Chaos Triforce]

noraa. convince me why gamma is scum or let her live d1. she's not posting poorly unlike some of her mates in this game

Rather than telling me why he isn't scum, he is choosing to discredit all of my posts by saying we're a messy hydra and dont even agree with each other.

Town NEVER does that.

Im signing as just "Noraa" to show how serious this is.

-noraa

what do you say to my point about superb doing that exact same thing replacing hydra with me being policy lim?

i will hard veto gamma elim today

I mean, I dont have meta on superb unlike gamma. I've played with gamma enough that I believe I know he doesn't play like this as town. My gamma read is stronger but I can relate and understand how you feel with superb.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

chaos 4 people have their vote on you last i checked and another 2 people are telling you that we think your push on gamma is wrong. would love to converse about the game and see where our differences come from. what is your opinion on superb and chkflip

OOOOOO I feel threatened by this post. Hmmmm. A bit uncomfortable with how you phrased this. I kind of read it like "bow down you peasant. it's either you or the people I chose to yeet today. you gunna bow or not?" <- tis a joke but I do get some of these vibes certainly.

mmmmmmm I think chkflip is just LHF. Nothing they've said has really changed that. Like I do remember seeing a few quick "backtracks" and then a lot of dropping this and dropping that. Generally, would consider scummy af. Probs is that ik chk has a reputation of being scummy so I'm hesitant to go there.

superb mmmmm difficult to say. I think I've had SRs and TRs on this slot throughout the game. I feel like you feel more strongly because you clashed with him but from my perspective, the whole thing looked a bit overwhelming for him. I understand you were upset. The problem is that you end up scaring the shit out of the person your clashing with. Your personality is very

BIG

(not a bad thing jus sayin)

Think about it like this. If a medium sized mouse was roaming around mouseville and every mouse was small, medium, or large, dude would be chillin with the homies and when he chillin, you can catch some lies easier. Now change a scenario, the mouse is with a cat. The mouse aint gonna chill at all and now its harder to catch some lies.
Ur the cat.
He's the mouse.
Hard to read people when they are intimidated cuz they always come off as scummier.

-nornorthemouseexpert

[Chaos Triforce]

hi Noraa

BM!!!!!!!!

-excitednornor

[Chaos Triforce]

<3 I'm excited to see you too, and also at peace with the fact you being here means I don't need to worry about anything after this dayphase.

you need to thank the heavens that I didn't roll vig then, LMAO

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

fairly neutral

I noticed this as well. I have played one game with Johnny(that is finished) and I, for the time being, am not sure what his town tells are.

-norbear

[Chaos Triforce]

fairly neutral

I noticed this as well. I have played one game with Johnny(that is finished) and I, for the time being, am not sure what his town tells are.

-norbear

[Chaos Triforce]

Town!Taylor doesn't give two shits what anyone thinks about anything/anyone. Hmmmmmm.

thats true but i do caere about the game being fun due to limited toxicity. the game is currently not meeting that threshold.

the context is weird but I wasn't even talking about that specifically. I was saying your play this game has been rather reserved and I dont feel that townie spirit.

Not impressed by what seems to be Johnny stirring the pot

very opportunistic imo. no one's really SRed Johnny all game. The moment sexy prfpc brings it up, gamma immediately shades Johnny.

Again. lemme repeat. THIS. IS. SCUM.

-takingadeepbreathnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

The first one was a fake read list.

HUH @_@
what?

-questionmarknornor

[Chaos Triforce]

oh yes, you were the one who tried to get my predecessor modkilled

O_O shits gonna go down now eh?
*grabs some popcorn*

-popcornnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Read up status: F I N I S H E D

-happybearbear

pedit:frick u

[Chaos Triforce]

Why do you need a "fake reads list"?

-detectivenornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Why do you need a "fake reads list"?

-detectivenornor

It's how i study the room to confirm or discard hunches, how players interact with me when i scum read them or how they react when I town read them. How other players interact with the players in my lists, how their behavior change basec on my interaction with them, how it indirectly affect others.

hm ok.

[Chaos Triforce]

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Ok ok ok calm down, everyone.

[Chaos Triforce]

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Heads up that one of the anonymous heads has decided to rep out. We'll continue to use this hydra for anonymity tho.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

You know I never realized until this post the exact rules on using hydras when one heads replaces out. I do have a hydra or two I might want to use as pseudo-alts, maybe I can dust them off?

there are rules?!

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I can certainly make another tho. Thats easy.

-nornorthanksgammafortheoffertho

[Chaos Triforce]

Ya ran out of ways to point at me and call me scum eh?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Now please leave me the fuck alone

Im sorry if I'm pissing you off but I mean,
1) no one told you to come pick at my "philosophy"
2) if you dont wanna talk to me, there's plenty of way to do that. its called ignoring.

-noraa

[Chaos Triforce]

Gamma-Tom-Aristo

who tf is tom?

-weirdedoutnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

The best way to categorize me is that I'm a bad scummy town.

ouch this sound p scummy. generally scum want to be known as "bad scummy town" cuz it gives them a cover up :/

-nornnor

[Chaos Triforce]

doubting thomas - sorry I got a bit friendly!

right. I call them "doubting" lmao. tom sounds better. Maybe I ought to do that.

-nornorthedumdum

[Chaos Triforce]

guillo-superb-chaos

if this was truly the "consensus", a new guy shouldn't be able to make any waves. The fact that the new guy can just means that its not consensus.

-norbear

[Chaos Triforce]

This game is very annoying atm. Im waiting for table to come help me.

-nornorpatientlywaitingfortable

[Chaos Triforce]

Very informative too!

I agree its informative. Currently my heads agree that Doubting is town tho.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

town vig

why is everyone so convinced there is a vig? did I miss something?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

serious, Chaos?

Right, I forgot this one was open setup. Im in like 5 games rn. Excuse the bad memory.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

you scum.

I just realized something. Plus looked really towny from the doubtingxPlus interaction. Doubting had plus in their SRs and then dropped it for no reason and replaced our hydra in. Originally, we weren't there. Doubting does seem to be very go-with-the-flow-y. I'll be consulting with my other head soon.

-nornor

FUCK ME.

[Chaos Triforce]

I SWEAR TO GOD. GODDAMNIT >:(

[Chaos Triforce]

The bottom line is, be nice to people, and they'll be nice to you. If you act like a shit, people will treat you like one.

+1
lets all be positive and sunny

-nornor

FUCK

[Chaos Triforce]

*throws plates on the floor everywhere*
I SUCK AT HYDRA'ING
>:(

[Chaos Triforce]

Noraa, if you want to engage me atp, I reeeeaally suggest you take a good hard look at me again. Ground zero just got declassified, pal.

no. Im having a nice day today and I'd rather not have you blow up at me for SRing you.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

why is everyone so convinced there is a vig? did I miss something?

It's literally any open game...

You've done this more than once : point something out about me that someone else has already pointed out. It's kinda scummy ngl.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Noraa, if you are town I’d love for you to make that more apparent. Most of the thoughts you’ve expressed have seemed pretty good, it’s just your take on me that bothers me, and the fact you are so loud about it is why my feelings on you lean negative.
This is me officially extending the olive branch. Let’s work together to solve this game.

Sorry no. I had good posts all game long and I was trying to obvtown much more than I normally do because I figured three headed hydra was hard but no one gave two shits. You SRed me before I SRed you. I had no take whatsoever on you when you started shading me for no literal reason and now I think ur scum for it. Deal with it.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

[Chaos Triforce]

*sits down and meditates*
*Throws some more plates*
*sits down once more*
*breathe in*
*breathe out*
*screams*
>:(

[Chaos Triforce]

as for noraa, there was one post where she based an entire read on my slot that was hyperfocused on my treatment of her. like those hyperfocused stuff which has an inherent implication of assuming their slot is town and working on solving other people on that presumption is town indicative. it's quite difficult to do that as scum. it's hard to explain so y'all might not understand what i am trying to say but

weren't you just saying I was scum?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

it's just lucky you didn't decide to be anonymous this game

God that would be a disaster

[Chaos Triforce]

They literally have hydra partners.

There's no planet where "tHeRe'S a ViG?" isn't a fake town slip.

Eh um so how many posts from my hydra dont come from me do you know? My other heads are really behind :/

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

It's 3am

get ur ass to bed.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Say no more, BM.
GET
TF
TO
BED.

[Chaos Triforce]

how much meta have you done on Thomas, Guillotina?

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

i just dont see how not knowing theres a vig would indicate someone is town. thats kinda a prerequisite for something being a townslip

Scums more likely to know the setup? It's an angleshoot, but I've seen plenty and most of them are this bad.

also first that wasnt sassy. ill show you sassy if you dont give me the respect im entitled to. and when i do get sassy with you i recommend not lying to me.

How dare you call me disrespectful. I know a woman and she has told me I'm a very honorable person. So p'shaw to your accusations of anything otherwise. Harumph! (Read as: I was just prodding you. Yikes.)

weird read, but: the bolded reads as very theatrical, it's meant to be a joke I know, but I think scum avoid sounding like that to their buddy. don't think chk and Taylor are scum together

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

*Sigh*
This game lost my interest super fast. I dont know how to get interested again. someone help

-nornorisreallyboredofthisgameatm

[Chaos Triforce]

Why am I suddenly a TR from multiple people?

I did nothing between then and now.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

*Sigh*
This game lost my interest super fast. I dont know how to get interested again. someone help

-nornorisreallyboredofthisgameatm

im here noraa!!! we can solve this thing together. lets hydra. but instead of one account and discord we will have two role PMs and just use this thread. what does your role PM say?

Sounds a bit role fishy. Mine happens to be the color green but anything else, I will not be revealing.

-nornorthegreenapple

[Chaos Triforce]

I re-aligned my sensors on you and filtered out some junk signals. The result was a beacon of towniness.

This can go in my wiki. it sounds so beautiful.

-wikinornor

[Chaos Triforce]

wanna pseudohydra?

squiggles might get jealous :/

-bubbles

WHY THE FJSHDFKKSDFKKDKSKDFKSKDKFKSKFSKDSKKFKD

[Chaos Triforce]

I’m sure the green has a delicious smell.

Green apple is the best flavor EVER. Just like Green apple > Cherry, green pms > red pms.

[Chaos Triforce]

I mean, I'm jealous.

u can be strawberry jelly

[Chaos Triforce]

Has superb even claimed yet?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I dont have a solid read on superb and my partner hasn't voiced an opinion so no, I won't be hammering this.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I'm ready to end this day as long as we don't shift to something unbelievably stupid
Noraa you wanna post intent?

I mean, not particularly cuz I'm not interested in hammering anyways :/
when's deadline? if close tho, I declare intent. If not, then I did nothing.

-norbear

[Chaos Triforce]

oh jeez not like that. noraa's my mafia sister.

[Chaos Triforce]

my gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

u got it wrong. I'm the queen here

*kicks u off my throne*

-nornorthequeen

[Chaos Triforce]

The deadline's on this page, just under 3 days. You have a stale vote on gamma that no one is following. Even if you don't agree with this vote your current one isn't doing anything.

hm. hmmmmm. HMMMMM.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Intent on superb

-nornorthebear

[Chaos Triforce]

I still have some stuff left to say to ari but you can hammer if you like

Talk. If anyone hammers and this flips green, tomorrow I tunnel you. I want to hear what he has to say.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Want to be on the record that I still think johnny/chaos/taylor are scummy

good to know sexy prfpc thinks we're scummy

-nornorthescummybear

[Chaos Triforce]

Good to know? What are you gonna do about it? Also, you read superbowl post, what do you think about it? Are you keeping your vote on Gamma or are you switching to superb? Im interested in your next move here.

1) why do you care?
2) did I not make it clear enough what I am thinking of doing?

-nornorisannoyed

[Chaos Triforce]

dont be anoynoyed anornor!

bahaha this goes in my wiki after game ends

-ahappyhappy appynor

[Chaos Triforce]

???
The syntax is a little shaky here I think

you can go back to being scum

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

1) I play here
2) No

Im going to here what he has to say, talk with my hydra buddy about superb, and then most likely hammer.

-nornorbear

[Chaos Triforce]

You do know what syntax is

RIGHT?

mhm. ur a grammar teacher scum.

-nornorthescumhunter

Sometimes I wonder how low my IQ is.......

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

what are we waiting for

my hydra buddy.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

what is up

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

pob's playing very, very differently to Trials Mafia. he was engaging with much more and pushing scum in Trials. he's just disinterested and unmotivated here, could be a difference in alignment.

superbowl feels town to me. if he's scum, he's probably the serial killer and not mafia. mafia would want to claim gunsmith or vig in this position to force a CC. actually, having said that, there is a viable counterwagon in Thomas, it's plausible scum!bowl thinks he can claim VT and effort with the wall to swing votes over to Thomas instead. shrug, I'm inclined to say he's town still, but I shall defer to my far superior hydra partner for this one

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

T^T I was hoping you would help me make the decision

-snifflynornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Im off to bed. deadline in 2 days. I'll talk more with table tomorrow and we'll decide.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Bit unfortunate that our uh ... vig chose a townie.

I take it the scums killed Guillo because he hard softed pr yesterday. I remember asking table how to derail Guillo's wagon because of what I perceived as "newbie pr softs"
Vig probs killed BM. As for why, I'm going to go ask and see if table has any thoughts on that.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Ok so before Puffily outed, she had a soul read SR on Taylor. Wondering what other people think about it?

I didn't have that soul read and I am not able to read Taylor all that well.

Just checked with Table. He said Guillo was obvtown.

-nornor