DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

Titus · Post Post #33 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:50 am

Total War

Titus · Post Post #45 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:12 am

VOTE: Total War

Titus · Post Post #195 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:59 pm

True Americans are a melting pot. We drink whatever's on hand and sometimes mix it up.

Titus · Post Post #335 (isolation #3) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:17 pm

I actually would want an obvtown player to grab fallout shelter. It'd be shitty for me personally but a way to keep obvtown alive is good.

Titus · Post Post #340 (isolation #4) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:31 pm

In post 337, Bell wrote:So, you're saying I should take it, Titus?

You'd be a candidate. Not the only one.

Titus · Post Post #342 (isolation #5) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:32 pm

In post 339, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:WHAT TYPE OF STINKING COWARD WOULD TAKE FALLOUT SHELTER

I am an American coward.

Titus · Post Post #352 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:04 pm

In post 350, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 335, Titus wrote:I actually would want an obvtown player to grab fallout shelter. It'd be shitty for me personally but a way to keep obvtown alive is good.
so you cant obv town? cmon titus

No. It's a very Titus defect.

Titus · Post Post #566 (isolation #7) » Mon May 03, 2021 3:11 am

Prod dodging. I'll be back this afternoon.

Titus · Post Post #680 (isolation #8) » Mon May 03, 2021 2:09 pm

I am having trouble getting into this game.

I may just lol nuke when nukes are a thing.

Titus · Post Post #694 (isolation #9) » Mon May 03, 2021 2:26 pm

In post 682, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 680, Titus wrote:I am having trouble getting into this game.

I may just lol nuke when nukes are a thing.
TITUS IF YOU ARE WILLING TO BE MY LAWYER AT THE IMPEACHMENT HEARING THEN I HAVE A CABINET SLOT FOR YOU

Sure.

Titus · Post Post #833 (isolation #10) » Tue May 04, 2021 3:23 am

Where'd I go?

Titus · Post Post #912 (isolation #11) » Tue May 04, 2021 7:21 am

In post 910, Prism wrote:LLD is going to have an aneurysm if all of EM winds up townblocking

Meanwhile I forget that the year is no longer 2016/2017 where I ran the table and all these EM Zoomers who never heard of me have replaced me. It's like I've replaced the old 2011/2013 elitists, I'm the boomer now

Then what am I?

Titus · Post Post #919 (isolation #12) » Tue May 04, 2021 7:32 am

Random off topic note: I am debating hosting a meet in Sacramento this September. Please check out general discussion for more. Everyone would be invited.

Titus · Post Post #928 (isolation #13) » Tue May 04, 2021 7:46 am

In post 922, marry wrote:what's pedit

Edit by way of post aka ebwop

They all mean the same

Titus · Post Post #959 (isolation #14) » Tue May 04, 2021 9:39 am

In post 951, Et Al wrote:Well it seems kinda baffling that Titus would just nope out of two entire game days. Maybe she didn't realize that it would be that long?

-S

I'm not noping out. I am used to having votes to work off of. Otherwise, everything just feels like lip service.

So I'm not objecting to people saying my ISO is weak.

Titus · Post Post #1084 (isolation #15) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:46 am

VOTE: DV

Titus · Post Post #1149 (isolation #16) » Wed May 05, 2021 6:40 am

In post 1146, VFP wrote:If mastina flips town I think Cephrir has a chance for scum.

Why?

Titus · Post Post #1150 (isolation #17) » Wed May 05, 2021 6:40 am

VOTE: mastina

Titus · Post Post #1170 (isolation #18) » Wed May 05, 2021 6:57 am

I'm blatantly sheeping LLD here. I have no independent read on mastina but she, generally, has a strong radar day 1.

Titus · Post Post #1172 (isolation #19) » Wed May 05, 2021 6:57 am

*LLD is the one with accurate reads.

Titus · Post Post #1234 (isolation #20) » Wed May 05, 2021 7:51 am

I am shocked at how fast this wagon is going and no counters are emerging.

Titus · Wed May 05, 2021 11:08 am

In post 1350, Mognet wrote:Speedlimming to nukes without knowing Queen Brahne is evil leads to possible nuking Zidane or Dagger or Steiner. Not good. Nukes should be used cautiously and reads generously.

Who are you even talking about?

Titus · Wed May 05, 2021 11:29 am

Look at Warehouse 13 Mognet.

Titus · Wed May 05, 2021 11:36 am

In post 1368, Mognet wrote:
In post 1365, Titus wrote:Look at Warehouse 13 Mognet.
I shall Trenchcoat Kupo. Should I look at anything in particular? Is this a game where chaos was good for town? Was order? Was Mastina scum? Why this game?

Mastina was scum. Town was incredibily efficient at nailing scum. Mastina was the first elimination and the other option was also scum. There were attempted town wagons but none of them went through.

Titus · Wed May 05, 2021 12:16 pm

In post 1374, Mognet wrote:
In post 1372, Titus wrote:
In post 1368, Mognet wrote:
In post 1365, Titus wrote:Look at Warehouse 13 Mognet.
I shall Trenchcoat Kupo. Should I look at anything in particular? Is this a game where chaos was good for town? Was order? Was Mastina scum? Why this game?
Mastina was scum. Town was incredibily efficient at nailing scum. Mastina was the first elimination and the other option was also scum. There were attempted town wagons but none of them went through.
Interesting. At a high level, what was Mastina’s reaction to being wagoned? What drove the elim of the other wagon? Care to give a jist? Then we can assume Mastina is scum here and maybe get a second or look for similar reactions to find a good nuke/elim candidate.

You're asking me for a tonal analysis, which I suck at. I'm also divorced from the emotional context. I'll do my best to answer but if you want meta, you're best looking at yourself.

Mastina's biggest contributions were 1)attacking obvtown Prism and 2) whiteknighting my slot. She was a sacrifical lamb to try and save SirCakez who was the scum PR wagoned along side of her. She didn't throw a fit at all but scum had no traction in the game. The closest they came to a miselimination was policy attempts on myself and Mathblade.

Does that help?

Titus · Wed May 05, 2021 12:20 pm

Sorry I checked. They did get one miselimination based off an odd claim and framing wagon analysis that would have been true if SirCakez was town.

Titus · Post Post #1467 (isolation #26) » Wed May 05, 2021 5:06 pm

Town firey LLD

Large Normal Team Mafia

She was right too

Titus · Post Post #1474 (isolation #27) » Wed May 05, 2021 6:49 pm

One thing that I didn't like about Mognet is their reply to me getting them a mastina scum game that they plead for. They then wanted me to do a meta comparison between the two games which is garbage to begin with. Yet if you wanted a mastina scumgame, wouldn't you do the comparison?

Titus · Post Post #1544 (isolation #28) » Thu May 06, 2021 4:18 am

Mognet, I am depressed. Me not liking something =/= scum necessarily. It's me seeking feedback.

I don't even read on subbing in. I don't expect you to have read the entire thread but I am annoyed when I have to use what mental energy I do have to do more than you with the data you ask for and I rarely review past games.

Also, by focusing on LLD's perceived bias you are defending mastina because you are attempting to cut down LLD's argument.

Titus · Post Post #1567 (isolation #29) » Thu May 06, 2021 4:37 am

In post 1551, Mognet wrote:
In post 1544, Titus wrote:Mognet, I am depressed. Me not liking something =/= scum necessarily. It's me seeking feedback.

I don't even read on subbing in. I don't expect you to have read the entire thread but I am annoyed when I have to use what mental energy I do have to do more than you with the data you ask for and I rarely review past games.

Also, by focusing on LLD's perceived bias you are defending mastina because you are attempting to cut down LLD's argument.
Examining an argument critically is not the same as “attempting to cut it down”. Applying what you do to others is a bad standard Kupo,

Sorry you’re depressed but I think with a qualifier like necessarily you’re scum. You’re wanting people to post about me negatively.

So the fact I seek feedback on something I don't like necessarily makes me scum?

People could post that I was wrong to dislike your response to me, which is why I posted it like I did. So why would you suppose people would post negatively to my statement?

You can critically examine a statement, but that necessarily defends a slot. It's not an outright defense saying mastina is town but it necessarily implies mastina could be town.

If you think I am scum, you're welcome to nuke me.

Titus · Post Post #1611 (isolation #30) » Thu May 06, 2021 5:23 am

In post 1573, Mognet wrote:
In post 1567, Titus wrote:
In post 1551, Mognet wrote:
In post 1544, Titus wrote:Mognet, I am depressed. Me not liking something =/= scum necessarily. It's me seeking feedback.

I don't even read on subbing in. I don't expect you to have read the entire thread but I am annoyed when I have to use what mental energy I do have to do more than you with the data you ask for and I rarely review past games.

Also, by focusing on LLD's perceived bias you are defending mastina because you are attempting to cut down LLD's argument.
Examining an argument critically is not the same as “attempting to cut it down”. Applying what you do to others is a bad standard Kupo,

Sorry you’re depressed but I think with a qualifier like necessarily you’re scum. You’re wanting people to post about me negatively.
So the fact I seek feedback on something I don't like necessarily makes me scum?

People could post that I was wrong to dislike your response to me, which is why I posted it like I did. So why would you suppose people would post negatively to my statement?

You can critically examine a statement, but that necessarily defends a slot. It's not an outright defense saying mastina is town but it necessarily implies mastina could be town.

If you think I am scum, you're welcome to nuke me.
Moogles are pacifist by nature Kupo. It’s not the fact you’re seeing feedback it’s now. It’s poisoning the well.

Instead of “I don’t like “blah”, a neutral ask is “What do you think about blah?” Scum will inherently cling onto negativity that suits their purpose and it’s an insidious way to sneak negativity in about a slot.

And no, that’s not how that works. At all. Asking questions is not defense. If I went “Mastina is town” that’s defense. Reasoning can be incorrect but the end result is still right.

Eg if I said 2+2 = 5 and therefore SirCakez is the mod, it’s still correct Sircakez is the mod but analyzing 2+2 is 5 is not a defense of SirCakez.

The Mastina scum argument boils down to LLD says so so I need to analyze her and see if it’s a bias and if it’s justified to form my Mastina read.

I'm not neutral though. Pretending to be is hiding my own bias. Seeking feedback while hiding my bias is wrong.

If you felt LLD was right, you'd say so. You could easily state LLD is right, but she's biased. That would be the equivalent of saying 2+2 =5 therefore SirCakez is the mod. Here, you're saying 2+2=/=5 therefore mastina might not be scum. That's a defense. Also, you've seen evidence, provided by me, that LLD can be this vocal, correct and town.

Titus · Post Post #1684 (isolation #31) » Thu May 06, 2021 7:02 am

In post 1675, Mognet wrote:
In post 1673, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1671, Mognet wrote:Again LLD thought in both those games Mastina was antitown. She has not had a game (or had one shared) in which she notices the good in Mastina. I think you’re not understanding my point here Pooky. She always thinks Mastina is bad, bad town or bad scum. So she’s more inclined to want to yeet Mastina which makes her biased.

EXCEPT SHE LITERALLY DIDNT WANT TO YEET MASTINA D1 IN EITHER GAME I LINKED SO WHERE ARE YOU COMING UP WITH THIS SHE ALWAYS WANTS TO YEET MASTINA NONSENSE FROM
She did. She asked MathBlade to vote Mastina in D1 on Warehouse 13.
In the other game she says to invert the reads which means she views Mastina as a liability to town which is an inherent want to be gone.

So yes she always wants to yeet Mastina

Again, what's your goal by harping on this? Is it to stop the mastina elimination or not? You've stated you feel she has a bias.

Either say she's right and biased or push me.

Titus · Post Post #1686 (isolation #32) » Thu May 06, 2021 7:03 am

You should be able to form your own read on mastina. Shit or get off the pot.

Titus · Post Post #1697 (isolation #33) » Thu May 06, 2021 7:14 am

In post 1689, Mognet wrote:
In post 1686, Titus wrote:You should be able to form your own read on mastina. Shit or get off the pot.
Mastina’s not posting and she’s the inevitable elim anyway when I replaced in. How people read her and why and who else is scum is much more important.

Entity — Good point. Has anyone seen Mastina? Is she VLA?

If you feel mastina is town, then you should still try to swing the wagon away. If you feel she's scum, you should be ok with a hammer.

Plus, sorting her helps see the genuineness of arguments here. Your refusal to sort mastina is baffling. You're attempting to have it both ways. Shade the attacker (LLD) but don't call mastina town.

Titus · Post Post #1711 (isolation #34) » Thu May 06, 2021 7:37 am

There is evidence beyond LLD says so. Mastina’s readslist was awfully early and largely unexplained. When asked to explain, she poofed. It reads faked. Many people raised concerns with why mastina had people where she did. I had these concerns too. That combined with LLD confidence is enough to eliminate. Rock solid no but this how we get content.

Titus · Post Post #1724 (isolation #35) » Thu May 06, 2021 7:47 am

Entity did the long form. You handwaiving the thread content, complaining about not being able to form reads, not using the meta provided but to argue LLD is biased screams you're playing social justice and not mafia.

Titus · Post Post #1748 (isolation #36) » Thu May 06, 2021 8:10 am

Well she's hammerred so we just wait now.

Titus · Post Post #2005 (isolation #37) » Sun May 09, 2021 4:28 am

*performs wagon voodoo*

VOTE: Nexus

Titus · Post Post #2007 (isolation #38) » Sun May 09, 2021 5:01 am

Get over yesterday.

Titus · Post Post #2009 (isolation #39) » Sun May 09, 2021 5:10 am

It's pretty transparent why my vote is there. It's naked based on yesterday's votes.

You meanwhile are just continuing our fight from yesterday. Get over it. I'll hunt my way. When I get meaningful conclusions, I'll say so.

Titus · Post Post #2011 (isolation #40) » Sun May 09, 2021 5:18 am

If you can't understand what "naked based on yesterday's votes" means then rephrasing for the third time is unlikely to help. I will anyway because I am not a dick.

I looked at the votes and decided arbitrarily that Nexus was a good starting place.

I'm going to keep hunting my way, around you, because you're a problem and not a solution.

Titus · Post Post #2017 (isolation #41) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:34 am

In post 2012, Mognet wrote:
In post 2011, Titus wrote:If you can't understand what "naked based on yesterday's votes" means then rephrasing for the third time is unlikely to help. I will anyway because I am not a dick.

I looked at the votes and decided arbitrarily that Nexus was a good starting place.

I'm going to keep hunting my way, around you, because you're a problem and not a solution.
Decided arbitrarily << This is the why I want to know Kupo. This is the why I have been asking you.

I would appreciate instead of you saying it’s obvious (and other people like Cephrir did this in his own way when I voted Bell) would explain themselves instead of acting like high and mighty tyrants.

Being frustrated at saying the same thing three times over does not make me a tyrant. You're interrupting and blocking organic efforts to get in the thread because you have to understand and be in control of everything. I read people based on how they interact with others. When you cut into these paths, you cut into these relationships.

I want to see how people react to my Nexus push but your pointless agitation undermines my very effort.

I think you're the elitist agency captured town and Cephrir is likely town too.

Titus · Post Post #2024 (isolation #42) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:49 am

He's trying to force his world view onto the thread. Let's just ignore him. If he comes back with genuine curiosity, we can talk but right now he doesn't have that. His incessant posting demanding others prove things to him just isn't helpful.

Titus · Post Post #2033 (isolation #43) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:20 am

Mognet, I'll be here when a) I want to be here and b) there's something worth contributing to.

A is highly unlikely given it's Mother's Day and that holiday sucks at my very soul making me feel inadequate. Coming here with you claiming reality is inadequate just makes me want to peace out.

Second, I do think there's a lot of words and nothing happenining. Every post has value, but we may not know it at the time. Sometimes meaning is revealed in time. I'm ok with waiting. You need to be too. Egging me on is just going to piss me off

Titus · Post Post #2040 (isolation #44) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:40 am

In post 2035, Mognet wrote:@Titus >> Then say that. Don’t say your vote is “obvious” when no one else is doing it, you can’t explain it and don’t have time to.

@Cephrir >> How is this a weird reason? Nexus votes Et Al. Titus votes Nexus no reasoning provided with the vote and it’s on the person voting Nexus. That’s like the definition of chainsaw.

My vote was obvious. Your ineptitude does not mean an obvious vote isn't obvious. I explained it repeatedly. I had the time and took it.

You are so hellbent on fitting my posts to your narrative that it's unenjoyable to play with and gets in the way of my hunting.

Titus · Post Post #2042 (isolation #45) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:41 am

In post 2039, Nexus wrote:We could just lim Mognet?

Being a grade A asshole is not grounds for elimination.

Can you do something other than agitate?

Titus · Post Post #2043 (isolation #46) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:41 am

In post 2041, Mognet wrote:Everyone’s acting like it’s RVS still

It is.

Titus · Post Post #2045 (isolation #47) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:47 am

If everyone feels like it's RVS, everyone rereading the thread won't change that. It's still RVS. I also don't like being told what to do when I was more than charitable by assisting you with the meta you discarded.

You also stated I am pushing you, which is blatantly false.
You missed Nexus capitalizing on your outright hostile play to try and get you elimininated.

Every post does count, but you need to stfu and listen.

Titus · Post Post #2061 (isolation #48) » Sun May 09, 2021 9:17 am

Why should she be eliminated?

Titus · Sun May 09, 2021 10:40 am

I don't think VFP is a good vote here.

Titus · Sun May 09, 2021 12:20 pm

Hey, let's keep having esoteric debates about the meaning of chainsaw because we expect M to be capable of admitting his strategies need changing. He's not going to admit that though. Rather than spam more pages, let's just get more wagons going on people who might be scum.

Titus · Sun May 09, 2021 12:25 pm

In post 2135, The Entity wrote:...you do realize not every vote against someone else when there's a primary wagon is a chainsaw, right?

That's the internal logic you'd have to follow here to say that it's worth pushing us/investigating if we're scum with marry when you have a townread on marry.

Are you committing to that logic? Because if so, I'm about to go back and find every single instance in this very game alone where other people have done the exact same thing that we did (vote for their scumread when their scumread wasn't the leading wagon) and I'm going to ask you why you didn't give every single one of those people the third degree the same way you're doing right now.

It's just bias.
M has been projecting bias onto other people.
M argued the mastina wagon was biased, despite being provided with evidence to the contrary.
Those pushing mastina were scummy because "there was no case".
In reality, M wanted to be the whiteknighting savior of mastina.
When mastina flipped scum, he's still picking the same fights with the same people.
He'd decided (for his ego) that I was scummy for pushing mastina.

Now he just is trying to sell himself on me being scummy so he doesn't have to change a thing or admit he's being antitown. We all know the chainsaw thing is ridiculous. The question is why.

It's all about M's ego. Such ego driven nonsense is usually town though.

Titus · Sun May 09, 2021 12:27 pm

In post 2145, Mognet wrote:Hey let’s say M’s strategies suck so we don’t have to provide reasoning for what we’re doing << That is what you sound like to me Titus.

How many other people need reasoning?

None.

My reasoning and actions are pretty clear.

Titus · Sun May 09, 2021 12:28 pm

In post 2149, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2122, Mognet wrote:https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... aw_Defense

I don’t think so smiley face Kupo.

I think anything that fits this criteria should be pushed. Does it work always? Of course not. But by pushing I find out if it does or not.
yeah where the fuck are you getting any of that from naked votes???? i guess i'm chainsawing for titus right now too huh? maybe we can make a circle of chainsaws

I think you're actually defending me. I said nothing about et al.

But this talk with M is a waste of time.

Titus · Sun May 09, 2021 12:35 pm

In post 2155, Mognet wrote:
In post 2151, Titus wrote:
In post 2145, Mognet wrote:Hey let’s say M’s strategies suck so we don’t have to provide reasoning for what we’re doing << That is what you sound like to me Titus.
How many other people need reasoning?

None.

My reasoning and actions are pretty clear.
Literally just pushed Entity for lack of reasoning Titus.

The difference is they’re actually attempting to be explanation of how they think I am wrong.

A bit stubborn about it and not addressing the original read but I can buy them being town since I townread Marry.

However you’re not even trying to give a reason anymore. It’s all just attack Mognet.

I'd rather get Nexus, which is where my vote is.
I have repeatedly stated you're anti-town but town.
You have misrepped me claiming I pushed you as scum.
You claimed my entry for this day is somehow a chainsaw.
You have rejected the correct evidence that I provided to you yesterday.
Now, you're telling me to reread when I'm telling you we just need you to shut up and let people hunt.
You're getting in the way.
Stop trying to play superhero.
This town is pretty solid.
I would like to avoid a policy elimination.

Titus · Post Post #2172 (isolation #55) » Sun May 09, 2021 1:08 pm

In post 2170, joqiza wrote:i feel a bit directionless atm. i ended up reconsidering my StD read cuz i liked their response to the nexus pressure

This game is likely just the lurkers and slankers.

Titus · Post Post #2183 (isolation #56) » Sun May 09, 2021 2:08 pm

Adding T3 to scum suspects

Titus · Post Post #2322 (isolation #57) » Mon May 10, 2021 7:35 am

I'll need to look at Robert but I have no opposition to voting him here.

It's a shame Mog subbed out rather than chilled out and listened.

Titus · Post Post #2323 (isolation #58) » Mon May 10, 2021 7:36 am

In post 2319, marry wrote:lots of people who you don't qualify as "disabled enough" have been tormented over history with that word and it's very offensive. stop arguing why you used it and move on.

+1

Titus · Post Post #2384 (isolation #59) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:26 pm

I don't get why t3 is getting townreads at all. He's not my biggest suspect and I'm fine letting him go for today but I just find that odd.

I'm pretty much ok with all the wagons but for vfp.

Titus · Post Post #2391 (isolation #60) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:29 pm

In post 2389, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 2384, Titus wrote:I don't get why t3 is getting townreads at all. He's not my biggest suspect and I'm fine letting him go for today but I just find that odd.

I'm pretty much ok with all the wagons but for vfp.
Can you vote for me please?

If you get a wagon going, I'll vote you. I prefer Nexus atm and he has a wagon.

Titus · Post Post #2397 (isolation #61) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:32 pm

In post 2393, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 2391, Titus wrote:
In post 2389, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 2384, Titus wrote:I don't get why t3 is getting townreads at all. He's not my biggest suspect and I'm fine letting him go for today but I just find that odd.

I'm pretty much ok with all the wagons but for vfp.
Can you vote for me please?
If you get a wagon going, I'll vote you. I prefer Nexus atm and he has a wagon.
Yes, there is a wagon on me.

In the technical sense in that you have a couple votes. I prefer Nexus. He's got a larger wagon.

Titus · Post Post #2401 (isolation #62) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:33 pm

In post 2398, Bell wrote:Titus, are you ignoring me?

I missed something?

What did I miss?

Titus · Post Post #2404 (isolation #63) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:35 pm

In post 2402, Bell wrote:
In post 2386, Bell wrote:
In post 2384, Titus wrote:I don't get why t3 is getting townreads at all. He's not my biggest suspect and I'm fine letting him go for today but I just find that odd.

I'm pretty much ok with all the wagons but for vfp.
Explain this.

*scratches head*

What do you need explained? I don't TR t3 but my trs do.

Titus · Post Post #2409 (isolation #64) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:38 pm

In post 2406, Bell wrote:Why are you against the dolphin elimination?

Because VFP's pushing is pretty obvtown imo.

I don't see how or why vfp became a wagon.

Titus · Post Post #2420 (isolation #65) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:48 pm

@LLD,

Get Robert voted and I'll vote there. I'm not unvoting one scumread to move to a whatever read and risking a vfp lim.

Titus · Post Post #2423 (isolation #66) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:59 pm

In post 2422, gorilla wrote:I reiterate that this posturing over wagons is tiresome and every current suspect should probably be getting glassed on day 3 barring something like a cop clear on them.

This is why I'll change over if another wagon develops on a non tr

Titus · Post Post #2474 (isolation #67) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:38 am

Someone asked me for a Nexus case.

Show me Nexus hunting scum. I'll wait.

It's not the most rock solid case but it's good enough for now.

Titus · Post Post #2482 (isolation #68) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:58 am

In post 2478, The Entity wrote:
In post 2474, Titus wrote:Someone asked me for a Nexus case.

Show me Nexus hunting scum. I'll wait.

It's not the most rock solid case but it's good enough for now.
Titus this could apply to like half the fucking game at this point

Not really. It applies to a few slots, but none of those slots bussed mastina.

Titus · Post Post #2484 (isolation #69) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:05 am

In post 2483, The Entity wrote:Why do you think a bussing scum is likely to exhibit this behavior, but non-bussing scum isn't?

It's more that activity could be NAI for a non busser. Mastina was likely bussed.

Plus there's no harm if wrong.

Second, data gen op.

Titus · Post Post #2585 (isolation #70) » Wed May 12, 2021 3:26 am

VOTE: Robert

I feel Bell is town. It's a weaker read but enough for today.

Titus · Post Post #2587 (isolation #71) » Wed May 12, 2021 3:43 am

In post 2586, innocentvillager wrote:hm it seems like joqiza and titus at least are pretty against this elimination?

even if they weren't, i don't think no one thinking VFP is town here is scum!indicative especially when they are easily picking up votes

idk ur other reason seems fine but this one feels forced and that's not necessarily scum!inidcative for u im just saying i don't necessarily agree with this reason

I do disagree with this. While I could be wrong, I strongly feel VFP is town. The fact they are getting votes indicates a hive mind.

Second, if VFP were scum, I'd expect Nexus or Robert to go through unless all three were scum.

Titus · Post Post #2596 (isolation #72) » Wed May 12, 2021 4:47 am

In post 2593, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2591, joqiza wrote:
In post 2587, Titus wrote:
In post 2586, innocentvillager wrote:hm it seems like joqiza and titus at least are pretty against this elimination?

even if they weren't, i don't think no one thinking VFP is town here is scum!indicative especially when they are easily picking up votes

idk ur other reason seems fine but this one feels forced and that's not necessarily scum!inidcative for u im just saying i don't necessarily agree with this reason
I do disagree with this. While I could be wrong, I strongly feel VFP is town. The fact they are getting votes indicates a hive mind.

Second, if VFP were scum, I'd expect Nexus or Robert to go through unless all three were scum.
I actually want to distance myself from this particular line of logic tho, I don't really agree with this as a reason to TR VFP.
meh fine, I can see arguments for or against. I agree it’s probably too early to say much about VFP’s ability to get votes as town!indicative for him

This is why I am not arguing the push is scummy. I don't know that I'm right. I just feel I am. The wagonomics follows from that.

I also don't like VFP's absense fwiw.

Titus · Post Post #2604 (isolation #73) » Wed May 12, 2021 4:58 am

In post 2597, The Church of Skitter wrote:
In post 2587, Titus wrote:
In post 2586, innocentvillager wrote:hm it seems like joqiza and titus at least are pretty against this elimination?

even if they weren't, i don't think no one thinking VFP is town here is scum!indicative especially when they are easily picking up votes

idk ur other reason seems fine but this one feels forced and that's not necessarily scum!inidcative for u im just saying i don't necessarily agree with this reason
I do disagree with this. While I could be wrong, I strongly feel VFP is town. The fact they are getting votes indicates a hive mind.

Second, if VFP were scum, I'd expect Nexus or Robert to go through unless all three were scum.
they’re not getting votes from a hive mind. They’re getting votes because they’re the elim today and nothing else is going to change it. If ur not voting VFP after my pleading ur just scum because town!titus actually just always joins this wagon and catches onto what I’m trying to communicate.

Ugh. I don't think what you're communicating is what Bell is saying though. Maybe it's me being stubborn.

If VFP is the elimination today, he is. I'll hammer if I see that because I want nukes but I'm still going to try for what I think will be a scum elimination.

You threatening me isn't changing my mind.

Titus · Post Post #2610 (isolation #74) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:14 am

In post 2605, The Church of Skitter wrote:
In post 2604, Titus wrote:Ugh. I don't think what you're communicating is what Bell is saying though. Maybe it's me being stubborn.
Were my posts on 103 not good enough? We were involved in the game u were there u saw Pichu do it.

*is confused*

I don't really do meta but I'll listen. I have no idea what you're talking about though. Can you relink/quote?

Titus · Post Post #2611 (isolation #75) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:14 am

In post 2609, Vaxkiller wrote:I think VFP and robert are probs-town. I can't read nexus and I haven't heard any convincing arguments for fading them. Prolly a good nuke target if someone on that wagon feels inclined.

Church looks like a good fade. Does anyone actually town read them?

(Altho thats prolly a good argument for nexus as well)

I don't see Church as a good fade.

Titus · Post Post #2613 (isolation #76) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:15 am

In post 2608, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 2587, Titus wrote:
In post 2586, innocentvillager wrote:hm it seems like joqiza and titus at least are pretty against this elimination?

even if they weren't, i don't think no one thinking VFP is town here is scum!indicative especially when they are easily picking up votes

idk ur other reason seems fine but this one feels forced and that's not necessarily scum!inidcative for u im just saying i don't necessarily agree with this reason
I do disagree with this. While I could be wrong, I strongly feel VFP is town. The fact they are getting votes indicates a hive mind.

Second, if VFP were scum, I'd expect Nexus or Robert to go through unless all three were scum.
Robert is more likely town and just being obtuse. Nexus has been countering the VFP wagon.

Why is Robert town?

Nexus and Robert have been countering for good reason.

Titus · Post Post #2619 (isolation #77) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:22 am

I can respect that. I also don't remember the last game I ran. I'll try to jog my memory. I do think you're reaching out in good faith though and I really don't get Vax's push.

Titus · Post Post #2623 (isolation #78) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:25 am

VOTE: VFP

I still don't remember or know what you're saying but I don't feel as strong about anyone being scum.

Which head am I speaking with?

Titus · Post Post #2632 (isolation #79) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:37 am

I think Vax might be scum.

Titus · Post Post #2689 (isolation #80) » Wed May 12, 2021 6:10 am

Welp I was wrong. Off to work. I'll reflect on that and give reads before close (I hope).

Titus · Post Post #2692 (isolation #81) » Wed May 12, 2021 6:11 am

In post 2690, marry wrote:why is giving your alignment in twilight bad...

Because it gives town a chance to scumhunt with knowledge of the flip

Titus · Post Post #2706 (isolation #82) » Fri May 14, 2021 7:18 am

Who does it exclude?

Titus · Fri May 14, 2021 11:35 am

Do we get a nuke every day?

Titus · Fri May 14, 2021 11:37 am

Mod: Do silos get new nukes each dayphase?

Titus · Post Post #3052 (isolation #85) » Fri May 14, 2021 4:59 pm

I don't mind a Koto nuke.

VOTE: Robert

Titus · Post Post #3060 (isolation #86) » Fri May 14, 2021 5:10 pm

DV, STD is pretty obvtown

Titus · Post Post #3066 (isolation #87) » Fri May 14, 2021 5:16 pm

In post 3063, joqiza wrote:
In post 3060, Titus wrote:DV, STD is pretty obvtown
you used that same word yesterday to describe VFP's pushes on marry. i'm surprised that you're still using it so liberally

what makes them obvtown?

Their opening today

Titus · Post Post #3068 (isolation #88) » Fri May 14, 2021 5:19 pm

IV will flip town. Mognet was an asshole but not scum. If I was playing solo, I'd recall it but that would just result in his miselimination.

Titus · Post Post #3073 (isolation #89) » Fri May 14, 2021 5:23 pm

In post 3070, innocentvillager wrote:i apologize retroactively for any of the assholery of my predecessor

and to my predecessors for turning this slot into a misnuke -_-

You didn't. It was all Mognet

Titus · Post Post #3074 (isolation #90) » Fri May 14, 2021 5:24 pm

In post 3071, joqiza wrote:
In post 3066, Titus wrote:
In post 3063, joqiza wrote:
In post 3060, Titus wrote:DV, STD is pretty obvtown
you used that same word yesterday to describe VFP's pushes on marry. i'm surprised that you're still using it so liberally

what makes them obvtown?
Their opening today
for my own edification here, what exactly puts the obv in the obvtown wrt their opening posts?

like i cracked open the iso and skimmed thru their posts today

they're fine, but...

You literally just said it. You skim their posts and you know they're town.

Titus · Post Post #3076 (isolation #91) » Fri May 14, 2021 5:25 pm

Good night everyone. Sweet dreams.

Titus · Post Post #3083 (isolation #92) » Fri May 14, 2021 5:28 pm

In post 3080, joqiza wrote:do i use this word in a different way? obvtown for me is like, i'm +90% sure the slot flips town.

I use it more like 75 percent and the reasoning should be visible to those reading the thread

Titus · Post Post #3161 (isolation #93) » Sat May 15, 2021 2:52 am

After these flips, I will launch my nuke. I know I am claiming silo here, but I'll be seeking feedback and I want to threaten people to get reads.

Right now, leaning Robert or The Entity.

Titus · Post Post #3163 (isolation #94) » Sat May 15, 2021 3:06 am

In post 3162, joqiza wrote:I am leaning towards nuking you Titus for the sake of disclosure

Disclosure? I'm confused.

Titus · Post Post #3166 (isolation #95) » Sat May 15, 2021 3:09 am

Regardless of if you nuke me, it's better for town for me to wait and get flips because I am usually better with more flips.

So if you nuke me, it will not change my plans at all.

Titus · Post Post #3167 (isolation #96) » Sat May 15, 2021 3:10 am

Aren't you curious as to why those reads?

Titus · Post Post #3171 (isolation #97) » Sat May 15, 2021 3:32 am

Robert is based on the strength of LLD's reads.

The Entity is based off wagonomics and the fact I get the creeps when reading their posts.

Titus · Post Post #3172 (isolation #98) » Sat May 15, 2021 3:33 am

The fact you jumped to attack rather than asking more questions and supposing I am an unreadable mess is not a good look. This game has been a repeat of people demanding things before the evidence supports it.

Titus · Post Post #3178 (isolation #99) » Sat May 15, 2021 3:50 am

I prefer a straight, no bullshit system. Call a spade a spade. You didn't claim unreadable mess but you're saying I'm unreadable and you don't follow me. We can dance around semantics or we can be straight with each other.

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 3:51 am

What is your entity read?

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 4:17 am

In post 3184, joqiza wrote:
In post 3172, Titus wrote:This game has been a repeat of people demanding things before the evidence supports it.
What exactly do you think this applies to? Like the only thing I think I "demanded" was an explanation for some of your reads. It would be one thing if they were gut-reads in RVS but we're 3000 posts deep and you're outing what I took to be fairly strong statements.

Mognet and now you. You're demanding that I case the obvious and waste everyone's time. Mognet demanded that I give more than I usually do, he ignored it, and insisted on more.

I'm not thrilled at repeating this cycle as it makes things less enjoyable.

What's next, case gorilla?

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 4:20 am

In post 3183, joqiza wrote:
In post 3179, Titus wrote:What is your entity read?
If this was directed to me, I townread Entity's defense of the Mognet slot towards LLD in particular. I'm on phone so don't have the quote in particular but he appealed to her in a way that made me think he was invested in keeping the slot alive. In general I think the Mognet/Entity interactions were ++town for both of them.

Mognet is town that had to die or subout. LLD wasn't wrong for wanting to policy the slot, even though I held hopes it would change. I was relieved when Mognet subbed out because I was relieved that I could play my way. Give my reads but backseat until there's data.

Keeping a toxic slot alive has major scum benefits, particularly when it's wrong.

I am not in favor of an iv nuke but if it wasn't a new slot, I would be.

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 4:22 am

So you're saying his posts are town, it's fine but waste your time anyway?

Ok I will.

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 4:25 am

In post 884, Save The Dragons wrote:slight ping on mastina and gorilla for going after dcl but not really enough to be confident. no one is standing out for me yet.

i have people i feel are town like DV (like actively trying), cephrir (though saying pooky hasn't done anything alignment indicative is a hmm), deathnote (just wants to get to the nukes like me), joqiza (just some of his posts have been good/helpful) and several gut reads as town (nexus, marry, samantha, vaxkiller)

In post 1086, Save The Dragons wrote:where did all this dv hate come from

VOTE: mastina

In post 1312, Save The Dragons wrote:i hate myself but i don't really want to end the day without giving people a chance to even post not necessarily mastina but others who haven't checked in yet

UNVOTE: mastina

In post 2656, Save The Dragons wrote:fuck it

let's nuke, baby

VOTE: VFP

In post 2704, Save The Dragons wrote:OH NO NOT OUR VP

WHO'S THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE GET THEM IN HERE RIGHT NOW WE NEED A PRES

In post 2715, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 2709, gorilla wrote:STD is probably town just for the reaction to mastina calling the dcl replace out scum, because you don't chainsaw a buddy against another buddy unless you just like losing games.
someone paid attention to something i said! that's rare

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 4:27 am

Gives early reads, was right on mastina, no tone shift with two scum deaths, encourages communication, encouragement of remembering what people say and accountability

Obvtown

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 9:24 am

You see, that's not how I took it when you said his posts were fine. I start from the position that if there's nothing wrong with a player's posts, they're town because a majority of us are town. Thus when you say someone's posts are fine, to me you're saying they're town.

Thus from my point of view, you were asking me to explain a read you agreed with, which was exactly what Mognet was doing. Mognet was doing it to find something to attack for his ego.

I thought you were doing the same thing which is just exasperating to deal with.

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 9:29 am

In post 3201, innocentvillager wrote:Robert is definitely counterintelligence ftr if there is no cc, prism’s list had it above covert ops

Can you comment on my entity thoughts, j?

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 9:31 am

Ignore the quote. I was going to ask how he knew what Prism's list was but forgot it's the same slot.

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 9:41 am

I'm not a stats girl. I'm a social psychologist when it comes to mafia. I look at motivations and thus motivation is how you sort me.

(By motivation, I mean what a player does and wants, not their passion level or rationale.)

Titus · Sat May 15, 2021 1:19 pm

In post 3232, DeasVail wrote:
In post 3229, Bell wrote:VOTE: DV

How’s it goin’
Hi, I’m thinking of saving T3 if DN doesn’t recall. We’ll see

Otherwise things are okay. Have had quite a busy week!! Much exhausting.

How are you?

Why do you feel so strongly about T3?

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 2:41 am

It's locked in. You can see how much time is left by looking at the VCs.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 2:48 am

In post 3285, T3 wrote:VOTE: Titua

Why?

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 8:12 am

@Mod: Can you translate 3301? Thank you.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 9:51 am

If there is, I'll likely just nuke him again. The blank slot is good for no one.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 11:19 am

I asked you why and you said nothing.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 11:56 am

Koto should be dead now.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 12:18 pm

STD conf-not Russian. Well moonlogic he could be but that's so unlikely they're conf.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 12:37 pm

If we get all the mafia, I'm nuking someone who hasn't claimed a nuke.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 12:57 pm

Koto didn't vote and wasn't voted so that's no use for VCA.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 1:00 pm

Happy to get a scum just highlighting the obvious.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 1:00 pm

2 more nukes incoming.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 1:01 pm

I bet 2 out of 3, but not who.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 1:10 pm

Going to think about this, but I am likely nuking Nexus. I just don’t see scum on his wagon.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 1:11 pm

If anyone has any strong town feelings on Nexus, now would be the time.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 1:15 pm

Sam and Skitter, I specifically want to know what you think.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 1:22 pm

I'm conflicted right now. I'm getting a lot of weak town and Nexus was the counterwagon but why didn't he go through since he was paired with scum?

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 1:23 pm

I want to take a shot that'll give information.

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 3:10 pm

Then why don't you give reads?

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 5:49 pm

Nuke: Nexus

The VCA gods shall smite thee!

Titus · Sun May 16, 2021 7:23 pm

It's not a lock but find me the scum on your wagon...I'll wait.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 3:24 am

In post 3439, Nexus wrote:God you're so fucking smug.

If it's smug to flip someone who I townread their entire wagon and would give info if I am wrong is smug, then guilty as charged

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 5:06 am

Fwiw, my play based nuke would have been samantha97. No strong reason but I feel strong townpings or getting pushback (Entity/Equinox)

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 5:42 am

Nexus, what do you think of Samantha?

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 8:07 am

In post 3526, joqiza wrote:The nuke on Nexus is... I think it's OK, tbh, I think there are universes where Nexus/VFP was SvS, I don't mind seeing the slot resolved, but it wouldn't be my first choice in the pool, and I don't really understand the specific argument she's making of "no scum on his wagon." I don't necessarily disagree , but I don't really understand why that implies Nexus has to be scum, since scum could still be on a vanity wagon, not vote, or bus. I want to know the exact logical steps here, as I suspect I'll disagree w/ the logic somewhere.

Sure. When I look at my VCA, I'm asking myself "What are scum doing?" and "What do they want here?"

What they want, on the surface, is a living VFP as the having more members is better. This is doubly true after losing mastina day 1.

This suggests there should be scum on the Nexus wagon.

Then I get to the other question. "What are scum doing?"

I look at the wagons and see that I don't feel anyone who is scum is voting Nexus. That means my reads, and the largely consensus reads, are off or scum didn't want to vote Nexus.

If scum didn't want to vote a town Nexus over VFP prior to the allegations that Bell copped VFP, I would be surprised.

Nuking Nexus proves either S v S wagons or that the reads in the game need a major shakeup and I'm ok with that being my contribution.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 8:08 am

In post 3532, Nexus wrote:Titus could do the right thing and withdraw her nuke.

You could give reads and give me a reason to recall my nuke.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 8:18 am

In post 3539, Nexus wrote:
In post 3536, Titus wrote:
In post 3532, Nexus wrote:Titus could do the right thing and withdraw her nuke.
You could give reads and give me a reason to recall my nuke.
You could take the stick out of your ass and do something useful rather than wishy washy nonsense about VCA, but I guess neither of us are getting what we want.

I've been doing that for all three days now. Just because I based my decision on VCA and what would help me scumhunt doesn't mean I have ignored the rest. Second, my VFP read was wrong so my play based reads don't have much confidence.

You want me not to nuke you. Meet me half way.

Right now, you might as well post you do not wish to die a painful death because you are giving nothing to work with.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 8:18 am

Can we ELI5 why we're talking setup mechanics?

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 8:50 am

The problem with the scum bussing theory is two fold

1) Why would scum bus after just losing mastina?
2) Who's the busser? It's not Bell or gorilla. If we buy Toog's claim it's not Toog. So that leaves Nexus or Samantha. Nexus bussing in an S v S scenario makes some sense. Sam bussing might be true, but we get into the question of why?

Vaxkiller is a spot I waffle on by play, but I think he's just too out there to be scum.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 8:51 am

I'm thinking it's Nexus and Equinox personally.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 8:53 am

I could go Sam but I waffle there. Like by play I get it but the data doesn't support it

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 9:36 am

In post 3556, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3546, Titus wrote:The problem with the scum bussing theory is two fold

1) Why would scum bus after just losing mastina?
2) Who's the busser? It's not Bell or gorilla. If we buy Toog's claim it's not Toog. So that leaves Nexus or Samantha. Nexus bussing in an S v S scenario makes some sense. Sam bussing might be true, but we get into the question of why?

Vaxkiller is a spot I waffle on by play, but I think he's just too out there to be scum.
wait, wasn't your whole reason for nuking nexus that you don't think scum were bussing that day, when in fact nexus would have to be bussing?

In post 3552, Nexus wrote:Bullshit VCA bullshit I imagine.

In post 3553, Nexus wrote:Justifying bad reads with terrible logic. The Titus special.

Can you stop trying to make things personal and just play the game? Mognet did the same thing too and it makes the game less enjoyable.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 9:39 am

In post 3551, samantha97 wrote:
In post 3548, Titus wrote:Like by play I get it but the data doesn't support it
can you elaborate on this pls

Your votes

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 10:05 am

In post 3573, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3567, Titus wrote:
In post 3556, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3546, Titus wrote:The problem with the scum bussing theory is two fold

1) Why would scum bus after just losing mastina?
2) Who's the busser? It's not Bell or gorilla. If we buy Toog's claim it's not Toog. So that leaves Nexus or Samantha. Nexus bussing in an S v S scenario makes some sense. Sam bussing might be true, but we get into the question of why?

Vaxkiller is a spot I waffle on by play, but I think he's just too out there to be scum.
wait, wasn't your whole reason for nuking nexus that you don't think scum were bussing that day, when in fact nexus would have to be bussing?

In post 3552, Nexus wrote:Bullshit VCA bullshit I imagine.

In post 3553, Nexus wrote:Justifying bad reads with terrible logic. The Titus special.
Can you stop trying to make things personal and just play the game? Mognet did the same thing too and it makes the game less enjoyable.
did you mean to respond to my post or something? i don't think you're trying to insinuate that it was a personal attack since it, isn't

No. I meant to respond to yo separately but I got distracted bc zoom popped off.

Nexus doesn't count as a busser because he's the counterwagon.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 10:06 am

In post 3572, samantha97 wrote:I was more interested in the play part though

There seems nothing memorable about your posts or play with the major wagons.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 12:42 pm

If anyone has a reason for me to recall my nuke, say it now.

If I don't see it after my evening class, it's getting ignored.

Titus · Mon May 17, 2021 1:08 pm

Anyone else bothered by Nexus not playing anymore?

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 3:53 am

I'll be voting later today at my second vaccine appointment.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 4:00 am

This is worth a recall as I don't think roleblocker is in the game (unless I am wrong).

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 4:01 am

We can leash Vax to check slots unlikely to be nightkilled.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 4:06 am

In post 3670, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 3669, Titus wrote:We can leash Vax to check slots unlikely to be nightkilled.
Further insults.
THanks,

That's not an insult. It's a check to make sure you are forced to be protown even if you are scum.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 4:35 am

Who the hell is IC?

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 4:45 am

I think we should just leash Vax to me.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 7:30 am

In post 3708, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 2049, Save The Dragons wrote:how come prism and mognet both seem uninterested in mastina

In post 2258, Save The Dragons wrote:my vote is mostly based on yesterday, where prism defended mastina and mog said something about mastina coming up town.

could i see scum behaving like mog, making a lot of noise and kicking up dust? yeah, but i understand the town reads for it though.

In post 2801, Save The Dragons wrote:i still didn't like some things about mognet and both mognet and prism wanted to divert from the mastina wagon that's a weird take for both parts of the slot to have
i don't have much against you but the sins of your past slots make me think you could be aligned with mastina here

That's why I am townreading IV. Can we discuss this? I don't think Mog plays that way as scum.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 7:33 am

We can leash Vax to check either me, STD or Mary too. I only include me because people think I am hard to read..

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 7:38 am

In post 3712, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 3709, Titus wrote:
In post 3708, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 2049, Save The Dragons wrote:how come prism and mognet both seem uninterested in mastina

In post 2258, Save The Dragons wrote:my vote is mostly based on yesterday, where prism defended mastina and mog said something about mastina coming up town.

could i see scum behaving like mog, making a lot of noise and kicking up dust? yeah, but i understand the town reads for it though.

In post 2801, Save The Dragons wrote:i still didn't like some things about mognet and both mognet and prism wanted to divert from the mastina wagon that's a weird take for both parts of the slot to have
i don't have much against you but the sins of your past slots make me think you could be aligned with mastina here
That's why I am townreading IV. Can we discuss this? I don't think Mog plays that way as scum.
why does that make you townread IV?

at some point i find it hard to believe that no scum defended mastina, especially early on before the wagon exploded.

I believe, based on Mog's alt, that they left because they felt they genuinely couldn't scumhunt the way they wanted and were just wrong. That frustration was genuine.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 8:52 am

In post 3743, gorilla wrote:Mmm, read samantha in the booneytoonz game and she only voted her partners when she was the counterwagon to them, small sample size so not a strong conclusion but especially given the VC at the time, the timing of her vote on VFP looks good. Entity was also there early, so...argh...

In post 2306, SirCakez wrote:
Votecount 2.4

VFP (5) - Bell, gorilla, The Entity, Nexus, samantha97
Nexus (5) - Titus, joqiza, T3, DeasVail, Cephrir
Mognet (3) - Save The Dragons, The Church of Skitter, Vaxkiller
marry (2) - VFP, Robert M Hunter
Robert M Hunter (2) - Lady Lambdadelta, marry
Titus (1) - Mognet

Not Voting [4] - Koto, DeathNote, Et Al, Toogeloo

(expired on 2021-05-22 17:52:00) remain until day end

With 22 players alive, it takes 12 to reach a majority.

I agree with this.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 9:16 am

I would expect the terrorist to have a silo for the extra kpn.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 12:42 pm

I was going to vote after getting my shot but I feel a bit loopy. I'll see if I feel better tomorrow. I may post but my apologies if its incomprehensible.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 3:38 pm

@Johnny,

How did you get marry ahead of Bell in your reads when marry hasn't even posted?

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 3:40 pm

In post 3886, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Unless anyone wants to argue I'll take Bell and Skitter off the list.

Is Deas scum?

Marry was someone my pred was keen on killing

And that removes her from your PoE?

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 3:40 pm

I think Johnny should be forced to nuke marry.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 3:42 pm

Johnny's read there is fake and I don't trust Johnny with an unleashed nuke.

Titus · Tue May 18, 2021 4:05 pm

In post 3926, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Uh aight
nuke joq

Intercept this please

Titus · Wed May 19, 2021 7:56 am

I'll try to be back later tonight. Working and recovering from my second shot.

Titus · Wed May 19, 2021 11:41 am

In post 4127, The Church of Skitter wrote:
THIS
is a baby deer

Doh!

Titus · Wed May 19, 2021 11:43 am

In post 4131, gorilla wrote:Marry is almost certainly the radar, IIRC they said they thought they had to submit a list with all the roles on it.

When did they say this?

Titus · Wed May 19, 2021 4:05 pm

In post 4228, innocentvillager wrote:ugh god damn this was a bad time to get busy it's been a while since ive been the LHF as town

Same

Titus · Wed May 19, 2021 6:13 pm

That's the thing right now. Almost all scumreads are running out of options reads.

Titus · Wed May 19, 2021 6:17 pm

Johnny, marry and Toog would be my three guesses roles not withstanding

Titus · Thu May 20, 2021 2:19 am

Random note: The terrorist is likely a silo or late PR claimer due to the lack of a CC.

Titus · Thu May 20, 2021 3:15 am

VOTE: Johnny

Titus · Thu May 20, 2021 4:25 am

UNVOTE: JF

Titus · Thu May 20, 2021 5:17 am

I was under the assumption that the terrorist wouldn't know which was their draft and which was their terrorist role but that makes sense.

Titus · Thu May 20, 2021 2:49 pm

VOTE: Sam

Titus · Sun May 23, 2021 9:40 am

Has anyone considered the possibility of leashing vax and holding nukes? I can't do the math right now, but that may force an autowin.

Titus · Sun May 23, 2021 11:33 am

In post 4570, DeasVail wrote:I kind of like the plan of leashing to non-silos

Disagree here. We should clear or get scumreads on nukes. This forces scum to kill DV, who I believe is in the elimination pool. If a scum silo gets guiltied, they shoot obvtown. With DV alive, he can intercept. If we get a clear on a silo, that's a confirmed town with a gun. If a confirmed town with a silo makes it to milo, we get two shots at winning instead of just one.

Titus · Sun May 23, 2021 11:34 am

I'm supposing we keep Toog on Vax in the above scenario.

Titus · Sun May 23, 2021 1:27 pm

Although STD's nuke is wifom, DV should intercept it.

Titus · Sun May 23, 2021 1:31 pm

I enjoyed you. Why did you defend me so hard though? You know I break games late so getting me nuked is a good proposition for you.

Titus · Sun May 23, 2021 1:32 pm

Aww that's an answer that goes to my heart. Too bad the 5th doesn't apply here.

Titus · Sun May 23, 2021 2:10 pm

In post 4661, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 4648, Titus wrote:Although STD's nuke is wifom, DV should intercept it.
why did u say STD's nuke is wifom

Typo meant Church

Titus · Mon May 24, 2021 2:38 am

I am still in favor of holding all nukes but am confirming I am in silo mode.

Titus · Mon May 24, 2021 3:01 am

I don't see how it does but I'll play along.

Titus · Mon May 24, 2021 3:16 am

Vaxkiller shoots Cephrir miseliminates JF shoot IV miselim gorilla

Titus · Mon May 24, 2021 5:16 am

I don't trust it but I am outvoted. Just tell me when to nuke STD.

Titus · Mon May 24, 2021 6:23 am

Should we just start and then suicide to accelerate the game?

Titus · Mon May 24, 2021 7:22 am

Alright fair enough. I'll prodge until then.

Titus · Mon May 24, 2021 1:47 pm

GG all.

Titus · Mon May 24, 2021 4:37 pm

I did recommend we not nuke each other though lol. My gut did tell me something was off. I didn't realize it was all the scumzors were dying though.

Titus · Tue May 25, 2021 9:52 am

Feedback for the next DEFCON. I would recommend having the terrorist have two picks that cannot be CCed. Samantha97 played well but got screwed by everyone knowing an airbase was already in the game.

Titus · Tue May 25, 2021 9:52 am

If this does not happen, the terrorist is almost forced into silo and submarine choices.