Newbie 2067 - Pizza! - End!

[cyrus62]

stop voting strange. if any one has a pr besides me feel free to hammer if not unvote now

[cyrus62]

do not clime strange that was enough of a crumb

[Azeru]

do not clime strange that was enough of a crumb

No, I don't like this at all. You're implying that Strange isn't claiming/shouldn't claim because you think they have a PR, right? You just announced that to the whole game. If we're all under the assumption that Strange is a PR anyways, why not let them claim?

[Azeru]

If we're assuming that Strange is a PR, there's a chance that mafia already knows what the role is.

[cyrus62]

im pretty sure scum following would think the same i said 30 mins

[cyrus62]

in this setup it . friendly doc or jk. no one else is cc'ing so i wont hammer

[cyrus62]

friendly is just as useless as tt and doc would die before me any way so would jk.

[cyrus62]

im going count this game as a wash

[cyrus62]

VOTE: strange matter thats a hammer town lost.

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-16

Regardless of the region, the basics of 20th Century Italian Pizza share much in common: Great crust, wood fired oven, and fresh ingredients!

StrangeMatter

(5): Pavowski, Azeru, Lukewarm, Save The Dragons, cyrus62

Save The Dragons

(2): HockeyFan, StrangeMatter

HockeyFan

(1): Zyla

Zyla

(1): Haschel Cedricson

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Deadline: June 20, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-19 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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An Elimination Has Been Achieved!

[fferyllt]

StrangeMatter was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Night 1 begins now and night actions are due by June 20, Midnight US Eastern Time. Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-19 21:00:00)

[fferyllt]

No One Died Last Night!

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-1

Day 2 Begins!

Not Voting

(9): Lukewarm, Save The Dragons, cyrus62, HockeyFan, Azeru, Haschel Cedricson, Pavowski, Zyla

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: June 28, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-27 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[cyrus62]

no deaths well thanks doc who ever you are. lukewarm went no where last night

[Pavowski]

D1 voting went as follows. Each player's votes are listed in order, the number in parentheses being the post in which they voted

Unvotes omitted because I am lazy. Hope I got everything else.

Draw your own conclusions

Votes for d1:

Hockey: Zyla (15), Luke (66), STD (320), Hasch (593), STD (634)

Luke: Zyla (10), Strange (73), Cyrus (92), Strange (266), Hasch (544), Strange (623), Strange (802)

Zyla: Hockey (71)

Strange: Hockey (11), Pav (429), Azeru (542), STD (723)

Haschel: Strange (50), Hockey (132)

Pav: Luke (83), Cyrus (166), Strange (330)

Azeru: Cyrus (237), Strange (629)

STD: Haschel (7), Strange (695), Hockey (716), Strange (891)

Cyrus: Azeru (97), Hockey (130), Zyla (424), Strange (435), Hockey (449), Haschel (454), STD (543), Luke (558), Haschel (583), Strange (649), Hockey (703), STD (805), Strange (859), Luke (888), Strange HAMMER (908)

[HockeyFan]

Alright with the new day starting, here are some quickfire reads based on d1


Haschel Town(759,762,777,846,855,(i like these logs because hes really trying to question strange and get a better read on him)

Azeru Town but after a re read of his logs might be weak town now(ofc he has town posts such as 333,371,604 but posts such as 629,903 rub me the wrong way)

Pav: Null leaning scum(Scum posts probs 166,320,626(as luke Mentioned) but he does have

some

town posts such as 436 and 268? Don't know tbh)

Luke: Town probs because of posts such as 46 and 570. Like Luke hasn't done anything extraordinarily scummy but looking back 690 is really ??, like yea Strange flipped town but there was no reason to completely stop that push. btw, he still

voted

for strange in 802. Maybe I'm just trying him because I like his writing style . He probs is town but not as much anymore.

Std scum(56,67,533,632,(these last 2 posts especially he goes from “I think Haschel is a good vote” to asking “why is haschel better than strange”, dont like the vote in 695 either. He does have towny points for going in depth of his explanations(873,890,891, but eh)

Zyla-null scum(minor scum points for 420, trying to discredit our town tracker for ??, dont have more specific posts to quote for this slot but her entire push on me seems based of the first few posts which is odd. However, she did become much townier towards EOD)


TLDR my reads from scum to town are
STD > Zyla == Pav > Luke > Azeru > Haschel

[HockeyFan]

ok based on the fact that no one died, we could have possible 4 greens if doc didnt save cyrus but doc dont out if u did save cyrus, pretty sure luke is also green, no? games looking pretty good?

[Pavowski]

ok based on the fact that no one died, we could have possible 4 greens if doc didnt save cyrus but doc dont out if u did save cyrus, pretty sure luke is also green, no? games looking pretty good?

No death is a good sign but let's not get carried away. Lack of death doesn't necessarily indicate a doctor. (Although I would admit it seems overwhelmingly likely.)

[HockeyFan]

I mean if there was a JK/Hooker in here, cyrus wouldnt have got a check, and mafia not killing just seems super ???

[HockeyFan]

o wait nvm u get a check of "no where" anyways if u get hooked, nvm scratch that lol

[Pavowski]

JK could have got lucky and hit mafia. Or could have locked up Cyrus to protect him and Cyrus is lying about his check. But the most likely play is the most obvious, Cyrus made himself a target and doc saved him.

In only one of those situations would it make sense for a PR to reveal so I don't want to spend a lot of brain on it right now.

[Zyla]

no deaths well thanks doc who ever you are. lukewarm went no where last night

To clarify:
Did you get "No action"? Or "No result"?

[Lukewarm]

no deaths well thanks doc who ever you are. lukewarm went no where last night

To clarify:
Did you get "No action"? Or "No result"?

This is a good question. It will let us know if we are dealing with a roleblocker or not

I gave the game another look over night, and right now my biggest suspicion is STD. For most of Day 1 he was very passive/lurky, and then at the end of day, he looks like he was opportunistic with his vote, like his voting does not seem super genuine.

Like when he kept Strange at e-1, after I left the push, like he was hoping it would still go through without me

Spoiler:

....

UNVOTE:

If this is strange's response to being put at e-1, it just doesn't feel like they have a partner?

Like I think that any one in this lobby as Strange's partner would have helped them come up with an angle to push

Maybe everyone I thought was scum before is actually town :/

VOTE: strangematter

When that wagon stalled out, he jumped to the next push on Hockey

Spoiler:

VOTE: hockeyfan

e-2

And then he abandoned that wagon when lost steam, he went back to Strange - and his reasoning looks suspicious to me

Spoiler:

Town
Azeru
Pav
Cyrus

Null (town lean)
Luke
Zyla

Null (scum lean)
Haschel

Scum
Strange
Hockeyfan

i like the wagon composition on strangematter

VOTE: StrangeMatter E-1

He votes for strange because he "likes the wagon composition." Which is a weird reason to join a wagon imo. It is like he avoids saying she is scummy here because he knows she is getting ready to flip town. Like he is trying to absolve himself of the vote -- "I only voted that way because I trusted you guys **points at Azeru, Pav, and me**"

VOTE: std

[cyrus62]

ok based on the fact that no one died, we could have possible 4 greens if doc didnt save cyrus but doc dont out if u did save cyrus, pretty sure luke is also green, no? games looking pretty good?

No death is a good sign but let's not get carried away. Lack of death doesn't necessarily indicate a doctor. (Although I would admit it seems overwhelmingly likely.)

could be jail keep? or scum wanted us to fight about it we should do this day slowly.

[cyrus62]

JK could have got lucky and hit mafia. Or could have locked up Cyrus to protect him and Cyrus is lying about his check. But the most likely play is the most obvious, Cyrus made himself a target and doc saved him.

In only one of those situations would it make sense for a PR to reveal so I don't want to spend a lot of brain on it right now.

1st part yes . jail keep didnt touch me other wise i would have had no result. i got lukewarm went no where this doent clear him however. as maybe jk lock luckwarm up.