Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]
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I want updated thoughts on fire in particular.-
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I don’t like how that post is framed, you once again say that I felt insulted which I personally feel I made clear that I wasn’t and I just expect to not be condescended. You also say there’s nothing more to say between us followed by more comments.
AtE can be labelled onto anything even remotely emotional and I’m honestly pretty sick of it. Do you think she shouldn’t be as emotionally driven as she is just because you aren’t? Firstly your positions are not the same, you are also difficult people. This sadly goes beyond this one specific game which I’ve been avoiding bringing up because it didn’t feel right but this is a constant barraged feeling across multiple (now closed, Im not referring to anything ongoing) games. This behaviour is nothing to suspect, she’s been feeing singled out across the board and this behaviour is incredibly telling of that particular feeling. This is not malicious AtE. This is just emotion. Just emotion.
Also if you’re deciding to lock-town me in an attempt to get me more on your side that won’t work fyi. Not saying anything by that just letting you know.-
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Different people*-
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The sooner we can get on the same page about that the better-
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Beyond my better judgement I’m trying to start a productive conversation with you with regards to Kay if that’s what you meant by arguing.In post 1132, Gimli wrote: I don't, I find the way KJQ is playing kind of borderline unacceptable. it's a game, should be treated lightly. no one should be made feel bad because they're scumreading a player.
to the rest of your posting, I'd rather stop arguing.
If you dislike the way she is playing, you dislike it. But that doesn’t make it scummy. I am in the honest belief that because of how she’s been treated in particular, it’s bolstering a very particular part of her playstyle and as such you’re not seeing her for what she is but more just how she responds to pressure which we’ve seen enough of. If you can just consider my words (considering you’re lock-towning me), drop this for a while. Push elsewhere, let her shine.-
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Where your vote is means so little.-
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If your vote matters that much, people must only be able to have a single scumread. A single push.
That’s how many votes we have.-
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She has enough pressure, we got enough from the pressure on her. I’m suggesting lifting that, even just temporarily. Let her do her thing. Let her show us what she has.-
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That’s all I have to say.-
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What the fuck is your signature too-
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I won’t argue this because it won’t change shit. Give her space to get back to a good headspace, let her explain herself. It can be hard to express your thoughts effectively when you feel like the world is against you.In post 1139, Gimli wrote: I haven't cased her or anything like that. I asked why I'm such a lock scum. she didn't answer it, she did that emotionally filled paragraph and refused to answer. I said - okay, you do you. but yes I'm scumreading said paragraph, and I explained it, to you. she is not the slot I'm pushing to flip right now. I don't know what else you want from me.
Just because you have a main push doesn’t mean you aren’t also pushing for others. Or diminishing anothers thoughts. Based on what she said, she feels like you were also being condescending which Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say it was accidental or even a language barrier thing but it’s still happening. It’s obviously affecting her.
Focus primarily on anybody but her, give her enough space. I’m clearly not saying for the whole game that’s stupid, but enough.
Thank you, I’m moving on.
What’s your thoughts on Fire?-
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Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?-
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Didn’t even realise the fire/flame connection, that’s hilarious-
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See, I also thought that to a differing degree but that coupon is expiring fast.In post 1144, Gimli wrote: when I was reading after I replaced in, fire mindmelded with my thoughts while catching up enough that I'm confident this is town!fire-
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I believe they’ve recently only done things to make the dissonance within the town stronger, which would imply that you’re town which is why I’m so interested in this thought. Their activity had dipped substantially which considering the “my side” (me, Jake, Kay) I believe is all town and then you existing, if you’re also town there’s a pretty substantial chance it’s fire here just watching town fight against town, throwing gasoline on the fire when necessary to keep it litIn post 1147, Gimli wrote:
I think if you expand on it, I can answer. Im not sure I understand what you're suggestingIn post 1145, JacksonVirgo wrote: Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?-
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I’m dealing with a bad headache so direct examples will have to wait, if you look at their recent posting it’s all seeming like they just want to keep the split as it is. Can you read a little bit of their iso and tell me if you can see that as well, genuinely curious if this is a thought worth building on more.In post 1150, halfasleep wrote:
do you have any examples of this?In post 1145, JacksonVirgo wrote: Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?-
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@Kay, can you give me thoughts on Fire?-
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Townreading you doesn’t make him town-
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I don’t like settling on consolidation wagons when I’m only just putting my toes in the water in a push that isn’t you-
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I appreciate you giving it the time of day, I am already aware fire is gonna be someone difficult to catch as a wolf so I didn’t start this expecting an easy time-
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I know what read he’s digging his feet into, he also seeded reasons to scumread you indirectlyIn post 1160, Gimli wrote:
thats not what I said. I said his consistent townread on me, when he is a townie, makes you look bad on his eyes, probably. he even told you this directly.In post 1155, JacksonVirgo wrote: Townreading you doesn’t make him town-
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This post in particularIn post 1064, fireisredsir wrote:
this is kind of a wild statement lolIn post 1063, Gimli wrote: I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year-
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I’m not saying it’s potent, he’s a good wolf it’s going to be subtle.-
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Yeah I misread it, my bad-
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Ugh?In post 1165, Gimli wrote:
ugh I don't think he meant anything AI by itIn post 1162, JacksonVirgo wrote:
This post in particularIn post 1064, fireisredsir wrote:
this is kind of a wild statement lolIn post 1063, Gimli wrote: I don't mind if we take our time with this game as this is probably the hardest game I've played this year-
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I know you town-read him, suspend that bias and look at it with a particular mindset. Tell me what you see.-
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He’s generally acting townie, I’m aware.-
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But deeper like reaching into a lucky dip. Gotta get the good stuff under the surface-
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That’s what I’m attempting to do-
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There isn’t scum in Jake/Kay. You say there’s no scum in Gimli and obv yourself. I’m not a wolf. It for sure isn’t halfasleep now. Unless the scum is specifically in ming/purple/thom one of us is wrong. That pool Is almost entirely PoE aside from Thom.-
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I’m not self-centred enough to just assume I’m never wrong so I’m looking elsewhere.-
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I’d rather die than jake/kay.-
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Halfasleep is in that pool now too-
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Ah you’re scumreading me/jake that’s right -_- bruh-
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I’ll respond to your stuff soon halfasleep, my head is pounding so fuckin bad-
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That extends to you fire sorry-
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I am open to listening, I’m not interested in following logic based on PoE or arguments against myself obviously. It’s going to be difficult to convince me against kay/jake and now halfasleep so if you want my brain. Look outside of that for today. If you don’t want gimli, there’s a second wolf we can look for them together.In post 1201, fireisredsir wrote: jackson i know you think that i am trying to maintain the division in town which is kind of fair bc i was annoyed at the game and didn't really do much to try to heal it
but i am fairly confident in gimli town, and i know that mathematically there has to be at least 1 town in kay/jackson/jake, and gamestate read i think there's probably two
if that town can find gimli as town then suddenly this game becomes much more playable and solvable. so currently that is my goal
i do additionally believe there is probably 1 scum in that group of 3 but i don't particularly care about them right now, id rather try to talk to whoever is town there and hopefully they're open to listening
I do agree with halfasleeps conclusion, I am fairly okay with labelling you town for now. I saw one possible avenue for you being scum, I wanted to shift the town to a more productive place so
I started pushing that but got convinced against it pretty quickly lol which I expected-
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Hyperbole to make a pointIn post 1203, Purplemango wrote:
Why?In post 1181, JacksonVirgo wrote: I’d rather die than jake/kay.
According to your claim, you are a town, assuming they are also a town, What is the difference? Especially since you should be completely sure what your role is, and less about theirs
Or is it like metaphorical Thing-
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Seconded, I needed a voice like yours and you humouring my idea like you did and ISOing fire was hugely appreciated. I respect it a lot, thank youIn post 1207, fireisredsir wrote:
fwiw i think your posting has been very measured and reasonable and pleasant and not annoying at all, if you are indeed new then welcome and i hope to see you around in more gamesIn post 1198, halfasleep wrote: - if i've learned anything in this game so far it's that i may be even more annoying than i thought i was -
this is a pocket attempt-
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Also a pocket attempt-
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Haha!In post 1210, fireisredsir wrote: i was just going to joke that you were scum because you seconded the pocket attempt and you beat me to it
foiled again. we'll get em next time
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Don’t like = I think it’s scummy.In post 1217, Thomith wrote:
When you say you don't like the appraoch to the game, are you saying that you think this is a scum!Gimli approach? Or is this a more geenral statement?In post 1123, JacksonVirgo wrote: I don’t like Gimlis approach to this game. To put it simply it all feels like he wants to push a particular conclusion and builds a case around that instead of what town should be doing which is the exact opposite.
Why are you so sure there isn't a scum in Jake/Kay?In post 1179, JacksonVirgo wrote: There isn’t scum in Jake/Kay. You say there’s no scum in Gimli and obv yourself. I’m not a wolf. It for sure isn’t halfasleep now. Unless the scum is specifically in ming/purple/thom one of us is wrong. That pool Is almost entirely PoE aside from Thom.
Rereading/comparing Purple/mings ISO now
I was planning on going in depth about Jake, I’ve explained Kay.-
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Second VT claim did I miss one?-
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I don’t really like the ming wagon aint gonna lie-
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In post 1287, KayJayQueue wrote:
So…you?In post 1286, Gimli wrote: scum would know the vt claimants, ofc-
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Kay thoughts on Mango?-
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I don’t either, but I also don’t think the solve is Thom/Gimli because that would make me a god.In post 1294, KayJayQueue wrote:
Not my favorite fruit but I don’t scumread him atm. Maybe because he’s purple.In post 1292, JacksonVirgo wrote: Kay thoughts on Mango?
If Gimli is a wolf, where do you think the second is?
I am pretty sure it isn’t ming here-
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What’s the current VC-
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I haven’t either obviously but seems too easy-
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Ming where’s your vote rn?-
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They’re not even voting for self pres. Get your votes off this duude-
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The wagons foundation is pure ass-
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They’re not voting for self pres-
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Ming is town. Lets get back on track-
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Not ming.In post 1308, halfasleep wrote: what kind of track are you hoping for?
Gimli > Thom > Mango
That order of preference-
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What a time to be alive!In post 1309, awesomeming327 wrote:
i forgor VOTE: GimliIn post 1303, JacksonVirgo wrote: They’re not even voting for self pres. Get your votes off this duude
e-1 vs e-1 with a coaster as tiebreaker is a truly a sight to behold
i had no idea this kind of thing could happen outside of lylo-
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Two VCs in one page, we’re getting spoiled-
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This is the goofiest thing if you’re not seeing ming is town here-
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Yeah, they wouldn’t. I’m clearly townreading them partially for it they’d probably double down and not vote them to risk me going “oh nvm”In post 1318, fireisredsir wrote: im trying to decide how i feel about ming voting gimli after jackson says he's town for not doing self-pres
i definitely feel something-
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Confbias is possible, but for rn I don’t care lel-
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I say partially but that’s all I said I think-
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