Mini Normal 1957: The Perfect LUV Game [Endgame]

Apple Jack · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:55 pm

for the sake of not ruining the game on day 1, I’m probably just going to ask questions and process information and won’t actually start pushing to lynch my scum reads until day 2. This is unorthodox and some will find it scummy but I’m not really worried about that.

If I didn’t do this, I’d be power lynching xiao fwiw

Apple Jack · Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:25 am

No I hate you cause you are either actually scum attempting to wifom or you are town and you’ve lied.

I’ll vote at or near deadline to prevent a NL. I’ll probably hammer somebody if they are somebody I’m scum reading and people feel like the day has gone on long enough.

Apple Jack · Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:15 am

If I vote xiao it’s not coming off until he’s dead. THAT will ruin the game. I’m still going to do stuff and develop reads but until I have flips to analyze, I’m doing it this way.

@xiao if you are town. Never do “level 3 shit” again. Just play normal. Doing antitown things help nobody

Apple Jack · Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:08 am

In post 16, Tchill13 wrote:Glad to see things are already normal in the sense that derpy is going after someone who made a very weird statement.

But I’m not going after anyone...

Apple Jack · Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:00 am

I have a feeling I know what it is, but I want to see if I am right. I love guessing games

Apple Jack · Post Post #21 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:43 am

yeah it did. welcome to the party. better late than never

Apple Jack · Post Post #23 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:06 am

why is it a scum push?

Apple Jack · Post Post #37 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:39 am

In post 24, Porkens wrote:No votes on chickadee today.

Why?

Apple Jack · Post Post #38 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:40 am

In post 25, Porkens wrote:
In post 23, Apple Jack wrote:why is it a scum push?
Was it scum hunting?

Not every post is going to be. Especially early on. What else ya got?

Apple Jack · Post Post #41 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:45 am

In post 33, Nauci wrote:Why wouldn't you vote pressure every single day?

Cause I have a tendency to death tunnel and almost everyone says it’s for stupid reasons (though I disagree) and it ends up creating pages and pages of back and forth arguments which end up 1. making people annoyed with the game, 2. Replace out and the replacements almost never catch up proper, and 3. Makes it almost difficult for anyone to actually decipher who’s town and scum which usually ends up with town losing.

So until I can learn how to tell the difference between scummy town and scummy scum, I’ve adopted this strategy to make the game more enjoyable for others.

I still involve myself in conversations. I still give reads. I just don’t death tunnel.

Apple Jack · Post Post #42 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:46 am

In post 39, Porkens wrote:
In post 37, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 24, Porkens wrote:No votes on chickadee today.
Why?
What’s it to you?

Knowing why you are basically hard defending somebody out the gate is useful in developing reads.

So answer please.

Apple Jack · Post Post #43 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:47 am

In post 40, Porkens wrote:Derpy, what do you make of these posts in the context of one another?

He’s either stupid town or stupid scum. Too early to tell his alignment.

Apple Jack · Post Post #49 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:32 am

In post 44, Porkens wrote:How have I defended her?

saying nobody is allowed to vote them is basically defending them. why are you being difficult?

In post 45, Porkens wrote:What makes him “stupid”?

I don't really want to keep beating down on the poor fellow so I will just say I don't really like the posts he has made.

Apple Jack · Post Post #50 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:33 am

In post 46, Mumble wrote:Hi.

you aren't from GLB are you?

Apple Jack · Post Post #52 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:34 am

In post 51, Chickadee wrote:Porkens is just being Porkens.

and if he is town that worries me.

Apple Jack · Post Post #55 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:50 am

nevermind. you aren't who I thought you were.

Apple Jack · Post Post #59 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:04 am

Yeah I was right. Tally list.

Apple Jack · Post Post #61 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:09 am

Yeah tally list we’ll sort of. Everyone stared even. 0 means scum probably

Apple Jack · Post Post #63 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:12 am

In post 62, Wossi wrote:also saying i'm stupid town or stupid mafia just nullifies any input I have, which ultimately isn't good.

You haven’t had any good input yet though

Apple Jack · Post Post #65 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:17 am

I’m not restricted and I’m not voting out of stubbornness. I literally just explained the motives behind me not voting on the previous page.

Apple Jack · Post Post #67 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:21 am

Nah I’m good.

Apple Jack · Post Post #75 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:28 am

In post 70, Wossi wrote:
In post 63, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 62, Wossi wrote:also saying i'm stupid town or stupid mafia just nullifies any input I have, which ultimately isn't good.
You haven’t had any good input yet though
We're on page three. Quote for some posts that have resonated with you as good input.

Nobody has. But you were implying you had some and I was nullifying it. I can’t nullify good content if none has been made. Aka your accusation was bullshit.

Apple Jack · Post Post #77 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:31 am

In post 73, Xiao Long wrote:Come oooon, Derpy. Let's 1v1 or something! I'm already voting you, so we're halfway there.

Trust me. I’d love to do nothing more. Out if respect to the mod and other players, I’ll stick to the play style I’ve had for a couple of weeks now.

Apple Jack · Post Post #78 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:32 am

In post 74, Xiao Long wrote:Oh, I don't know how to do images anymore.

Scum usually don’t

Apple Jack · Post Post #79 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:32 am

I think wossi could be scum for “reasons”

Apple Jack · Post Post #83 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:44 am

In post 82, Mumble wrote:You could still answer the question.

Not sure why it matters. Goal-line Blitz.

Apple Jack · Post Post #89 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:50 am

This game should be easy. 2 scum found on page 4

Apple Jack · Post Post #94 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:01 am

In post 90, Xiao Long wrote:You and Wossi? Or Mumble and Wossi?

You and wossi silly.

Apple Jack · Post Post #98 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:06 am

I don’t agree with his assessment of chickadee or nauci but for now his schtick doesn’t bother me.

Apple Jack · Post Post #99 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:08 am

Mumble is null but he made a good vote. I don’t think he really glossed over anything of value.

Apple Jack · Post Post #102 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:11 am

In post 84, Wossi wrote:Mumble skipped two pages just to respond to fluff with fluff

Weren’t you just asking me to show you examples of good input? That implies you didn’t think anyone has had any.

So why would somebody skipping over “not good” input be scummy exactly?

P.edit - cause you are hella scummy and I’d be super happy with your lynch

Apple Jack · Post Post #103 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:12 am

In post 101, Nauci wrote:This is a silly comment.

Nah it isn’t.

Apple Jack · Post Post #105 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:17 am

No. Because while you think it’s a good idea now. When we are in page 55 and it’s still day one and I’m arguing with everyone who isn’t voting you. It’s not a good idea. You as scum want this though. Historically nobody gets lynched this way and instead you’ll get town read.

If you get to l-1 I’ll hammer you but I’m not going to disrupt the game just cause I think you are scum.

Apple Jack · Post Post #108 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:22 am

In post 106, Wossi wrote:Obviously. You're stretching here pretty widely

If anyone was stretching it was you when you implied he was scummy for skipping a few useless pages.

Apple Jack · Post Post #109 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:23 am

In post 107, Xiao Long wrote:100% hammer without considering anything else?
That's an interesting stance. Maybe you don't want to vote me and push a lynch on me cause you know it's a mislynch? That's my thoughts atm.

You really shouldn’t assume things.

Apple Jack · Post Post #111 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:25 am

Against confirmed to me scum? Absolutely

Apple Jack · Post Post #115 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:50 am

In post 112, Wossi wrote:Confirmed scum but you don't vote

Yes because I’m not voting anyone until day 2 like I already said. I seriously doubt I can convince anyone else you are scum based on what I know to be true so we’ll just let others find out on their own.

Apple Jack · Post Post #117 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:51 am

In post 114, Porkens wrote:Are YOU really calling ME difficult?

Yes

In post 114, Porkens wrote:Your inability to answer my simple question makes me think you don't believe you have a good answer. You are backing down from explaining why you think it's justifiable to call him "stupid".

Pretty sure I haven’t refused to answer any questions. If I missed one please let me know.

Apple Jack · Post Post #129 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:39 am

In post 119, Porkens wrote:Why did you call that player "stupid"?

I answered that one. You must have missed it.

Apple Jack · Post Post #130 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:39 am

In post 122, Nauci wrote:You're basically tunneling without a vote though

Ok

Apple Jack · Post Post #137 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:00 pm

In post 136, Nauci wrote:
In post 129, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 119, Porkens wrote:Why did you call that player "stupid"?
I answered that one. You must have missed it.
Was kind of a shit answer though.

Was trying not to cross the line. When I get home I can explain what about his posts were bad.

Apple Jack · Post Post #141 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:02 pm

In post 128, Xiao Long wrote:I would never make a level 1 play as scum though. It’s just bad juju.

why would you make a “level 1” play as town though?

Apple Jack · Post Post #145 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:10 pm

In post 142, Xiao Long wrote:Making a level 1 play as town is the most standard thing you can do. Most new players will always play a level 1 town. Playing anything higher than a level 1 town will draw a lot of eyes on you, as is happening to me this very moment.

Now you might think “well if it will draw eyes on you, why would you ever play higher than level 1”
We can talk about that after day 1.

But you aren’t a new player so why would a player from 2013 do something So basic?

Apple Jack · Post Post #150 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:33 pm

In post 147, Xiao Long wrote:Didn’t I say I’m level 3 right now?
I think you’re confused bro bro.

Nauchos: Hey man, it’s all the same to me.

That’s what you say. Your actions say different

Apple Jack · Post Post #157 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:33 pm

Wossi is definitely scum. I just don’t know how to convince people.

I’m not wirried about xiao right now. I get that whole motivation thing but my mind is screwed because I’ve seen so many things that made no sense coming from scum yet it did. I look for town motivation first and when I don’t see that, it raises flags.

Apple Jack · Post Post #159 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:39 pm

In post 158, Tchill13 wrote:alright step right up good ppl of the perfect luv game and let me tell you why wossi is scum. taking questions now.

I just typed up a post explaining why I know he’s scum but I’ll wait to see what you have to say.

Apple Jack · Post Post #164 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:52 pm

In post 160, Tchill13 wrote:he's LOOKING towny. giving very easy reads that come from a generally towny mindset. He's not scum hunting he's just using a poor excuse to attack a guy that LOOKS (but isn't) anti town for town cred and he just keeps driving that home.

I agree with this.

Let me ask you something. Looking at his posts would you think he town read or scum read me?

Apple Jack · Post Post #166 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:53 pm

@others. Would you say wossi is town reading me or scum reading me?

Apple Jack · Post Post #168 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:56 pm

Like this thing about day 1 is something I’ve done in other games (including 1 completed) and nobody has had the reaction or blatant misreps that wossy has had.

Apple Jack · Post Post #170 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:57 pm

It’s a completely non alignment indicative thing I’m doing.

Apple Jack · Post Post #172 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:09 pm

Wossy getting nervous. Ok so the reason why I asked if it looks like wossy town read or scum reads me (btw it’s super obvious he doesn’t)

Here is what I posted earlier. I’m adding to it now though.

Fuck it. Wossi is a neighborhood with me. His first post says he going to assume I’m town. I say I don’t really trust him and I’ll let his play determine his alignment.

Fast forward to game thread. He votes me, thinks I’m scum and doesn’t once treat me like he thinks I’m town. I assume cause I didn’t fall for his little ploy. Simple scum lol

The trajectory of his read on me doesn’t make sense. I told him I’m not posting in our neighborhood cause I think he’s scum.

Adding the following - I posted in the neighborhood I think he’s scum and he’s sitting there acting like he still town reads me. Asking my thoughts on the game even after I just called him scum.

I say I’m not posting anymore and asked the mod to remove me if allowed as I won’t be posting in it anymore.

He claims I’m jumping the gun.

these additional posts are made in a way that seems like he doesn’t scum read me, like he wants to maintain a relationship.

Yet his posts in game are directly opposite.

He’s scum. Lynch him.

Apple Jack · Post Post #175 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:11 pm

I’m sticking to my original plan though so others need to vote wossi. I’ll hammer if need be.

Apple Jack · Post Post #177 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:18 pm

neighborhoods don’t do anything but create confusion anyway and anything I have to say can be made publicly.

Nothing I hate more than masons/neighbors hiding info from the rest of town when we need to work together.

Apple Jack · Post Post #181 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:35 pm

Yeah we definitely need to not rush day one. We have plenty of time but I just had to expose wossi as the fraud he is.

Apple Jack · Post Post #185 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:52 pm

You are correct. Voting me page 2 doesn’t mean you think I’m scum but voting me when you told me you are assuming I’m town is a red flag.

Then there is this post

In post 165, Wossi wrote:Hi, my name is Derpy Hooves, I'm scum and I very badly want to lynch town, but I so, so, so dont want to be held accountible so someone who reads townier then me please take responsibility! Thanks!

This definitely implies you tbink I’m scum
Not only that it’s the most disgusting form of manipulation I’ve ever seen.

Me refusing to vote day one doesn’t make me not want to be held accountable. Porky pig can attest to that since he replaced me in a game where I was town and refused to vote day 1. I developed scum reads. I tried to prevent mislynches. I was more invested in the game then anyone else was and I didn’t cast a single vote day 1.

Your posts in the neighborhood should match your posts in the game and because they don’t you are confirmed scum to me.

I’ll let others make their own mind up. I’m all about transparency

Apple Jack · Post Post #192 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:02 pm

Anything I need to say I’ll say here. Hiding info from town is bad.

Apple Jack · Post Post #193 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:03 pm

In post 191, Tchill13 wrote:someone call me scum for putting myself in a townbloc... i double dog dare you.

You’re scum

Apple Jack · Post Post #200 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:25 pm

In post 197, Animetrix wrote:There is really no explanation why they would sheep the vote.

I know one

Apple Jack · Post Post #202 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:27 pm

In post 201, Animetrix wrote:
In post 157, Apple Jack wrote:Wossi is definitely scum. I just don’t know how to convince people.
Do you think you can try to show me the posts that you don't like? Or is it more on tone from experience?

I’d have to go back and check but I don’t think he’s made one I do like.

Apple Jack · Post Post #203 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:28 pm

Yeah. None

Apple Jack · Post Post #208 (isolation #60) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:47 pm

Interesting vote. Reasons?

Apple Jack · Post Post #216 (isolation #61) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:21 pm

In post 213, wavemode wrote:Explain to me your trajectory on Mumble

Answer my question please

Apple Jack · Post Post #219 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:44 pm

Ok. I like that.

Apple Jack · Post Post #241 (isolation #63) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:05 pm

In post 232, Xiao Long wrote:Derpy does scum have day chat?

Yes

Apple Jack · Post Post #246 (isolation #64) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:18 pm

In post 245, Xiao Long wrote:Hm, not what I was looking for. Towny enough response I guess.

What were you looking for exactly?

Apple Jack · Post Post #249 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:47 am

In post 247, Xiao Long wrote:Some kind of defensiveness over why I was asking you. Admittedly a pretty shit tier reaction test, but hey, scum have been caught for less in the past.

More level 1 bullshit. You can’t be town

Apple Jack · Post Post #252 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:40 am

In post 251, Xiao Long wrote:And answer my question dawg!

I didn't see you ask me one. where is it?

Apple Jack · Post Post #254 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:44 am

idk why you would ask a question you already know the answer to.

I think you are scum

Apple Jack · Post Post #257 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:56 am

In post 255, Xiao Long wrote:Hmm, I’m starting to think you’re not really reading all my posts.

I have, and it's those posts that make me think you are probably scum. I don't really see anything you have done that looks townie.

Apple Jack · Post Post #264 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:58 am

In post 261, Tchill13 wrote:if theres a vig shoot this man.

+1

Apple Jack · Post Post #282 (isolation #70) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:26 am

In post 278, Xiao Long wrote:FOS Everyone with fewer posts than the mod.

Apple Jack · Post Post #289 (isolation #71) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:20 am

Yes it’s pretty obvious. Getting people to write you off as a VI instead of the scum you actually are.

Apple Jack · Post Post #295 (isolation #72) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:44 am

In post 291, Tchill13 wrote:Look how easy the xl wagon grows but not the Wossi one.

I’ve noticed. Wossi is probably the scum PR.

Apple Jack · Post Post #298 (isolation #73) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:06 pm

In post 297, Wossi wrote:because it doesn't make sense to go all or nothing on a mislynch with this little onformation

This is the most absurd statement

Apple Jack · Post Post #303 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:22 pm

Let’s skip over how it absurd it is that you think you can convince people you aren’t scum.

I’m referring to your statement that scum isn’t going to go all in on a mislynch. That’s absurd. Scum will and have gone all in on mislynches. Doing things that people think scum won’t do is literally the best way to play as scum

Apple Jack · Post Post #306 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:29 pm

And too bad you rolled scum.

Apple Jack · Post Post #309 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:48 pm

Hmm. The last time a normal had a scum neighbor plus something else was 2012 and it was Gf which isn’t even allowed anymore.

So my tinfoil theory of him being a pr is out the window. I still don’t like his play style shift between the game and the Hood and he made what was probably the most manipulative post I’ve ever seen. So he’s still scum

Apple Jack · Post Post #313 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:09 pm

I haven’t refused to investigate anyone else. I have 2 decent scum reads and others I’m keeping an eye on.

Apple Jack · Post Post #338 (isolation #78) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:30 am

Lurking is an epidemic on this site. Town and scum do it. While I’d love to pressure and policy lynch every single lurker, it’s just not feasible.

Now we have plenty of time but the day ends with a wossi lynch. What happens between now and that I don’t really care.

Apple Jack · Post Post #340 (isolation #79) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:54 am

I said I’m not voting day 1. But I’ve found 2 scum without voting. So I’m awesome

Apple Jack · Post Post #342 (isolation #80) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:07 am

In post 341, Xiao Long wrote:Except you’re 100% wrong about me, so I have little reason to trust you’re right about Wossi.

If I’m wrong about you. Improve your play next time and stop trying to do things intentionally to force people to town read you.

Apple Jack · Post Post #345 (isolation #81) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:14 am

Playing bad on purpose so people think that you are too bad to be scum.

Apple Jack · Post Post #347 (isolation #82) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:23 am

In post 4, Xiao Long wrote:First? I’m probably scum tbh

This

Apple Jack · Post Post #348 (isolation #83) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:23 am

In post 11, Xiao Long wrote:I’m just trying my hand at some level 3 shit, dawg.
If you’ll do all that, why not just push lunches you think are scummy? Seems like you’d get more use out of your slot by pressuring and shit with votes.

Apple Jack · Post Post #349 (isolation #84) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:24 am

In post 247, Xiao Long wrote:Some kind of defensiveness over why I was asking you. Admittedly a pretty shit tier reaction test, but hey, scum have been caught for less in the past.

Apple Jack · Post Post #350 (isolation #85) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:25 am

In post 278, Xiao Long wrote:FOS Everyone with fewer posts than the mod.

Apple Jack · Post Post #351 (isolation #86) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:25 am

In post 339, Xiao Long wrote:THIS IS ME NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH MY VOTE”

I really could go on all day but people probably wouldn’t like that.

Apple Jack · Post Post #353 (isolation #87) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:29 am

In post 352, Xiao Long wrote:Damn, must be a lot of really fucking shit players on this site.

Yes there are. It’s kind of frustrating

Apple Jack · Post Post #363 (isolation #88) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:37 am

More level 1 bullshit from XL

Apple Jack · Post Post #365 (isolation #89) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:39 am

That wasn’t a hammer

Apple Jack · Post Post #367 (isolation #90) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:40 am

In post 362, wavemode wrote:I was lyncher and Wossi was my target

gg guys had fun

Lyncher isn’t allowed in Normals.

Apple Jack · Post Post #369 (isolation #91) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:43 am

Cmon what? Stepping all over peoples stupid gambits? Hell no. People need to stop doing stupid shit and play the fucking game

Apple Jack · Post Post #372 (isolation #92) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:47 am

I hate lying. I hate gambits. I hate trickery. That isn’t suspect. That’s me.

If you are town you shouldn’t need bullshit tricks to find scum especially when they almost never work.

If you do you need them maybe try another game as mafia isn’t the game for you.

Apple Jack · Post Post #381 (isolation #93) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:54 am

*gambit

And no it doesn’t have to be blatantly obvious to work.

Apple Jack · Post Post #385 (isolation #94) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:59 am

In post 383, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 345, Apple Jack wrote:Playing bad on purpose so people think that you are too bad to be scum.
Derpy, remind me to sign up for every game your in.

Why?

Apple Jack · Post Post #403 (isolation #95) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:57 am

In post 387, Wossi wrote:Derpy is just as much guilty of this if not more so....

Apple Jack · Post Post #404 (isolation #96) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:58 am

In post 389, Tchill13 wrote:Derpy doesn't do stupid gambits that cause confusion for town. He's better than 80 percent of players on site for that ALONE.

Thank you. This is twice we’ve been on a similar page. Hopefully you are town this game also.

Apple Jack · Post Post #405 (isolation #97) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:05 pm

In post 393, Xiao Long wrote:Fake hammers aren’t stupid gambits

They are actually. There are even a few mods who prohibit it in their game rules. Clearly others agree with it.

If you were new that would be one thing. Make mistakes is how you learn and get better. But you aren’t new yet you make n00b mistakes. Do n00b gambits. Say you might be scum.

Don’t do that stuff. It makes you look scummy and if you are town you hurt town

Apple Jack · Post Post #406 (isolation #98) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:06 pm

In post 397, Xiao Long wrote:This post literally translates to:

“If you don’t play the way I want you to play, you’re stupid and shouldn’t play the game.”

No it translates to don’t rely on trickery. Rely on good old fashion scum hunting.

Apple Jack · Post Post #407 (isolation #99) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:08 pm

In post 398, Xiao Long wrote:What kind of town will shit on something that has a possibility of catching scum? “

Fake hammers and gambits almost never catch scum.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:10 pm

In post 8, Apple Jack wrote:for the sake of not ruining the game on day 1, I’m probably just going to ask questions and process information and won’t actually start pushing to lynch my scum reads until day 2. This is unorthodox and some will find it scummy but I’m not really worried about that.

It’s almost like I warned people about me and yet people still wanted to tangle with me

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:12 pm

In post 409, Xiao Long wrote:
In post 407, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 398, Xiao Long wrote:What kind of town will shit on something that has a possibility of catching scum? “
Fake hammers and gambits
almost
never catch scum.
WHO CAAAAAARES?????
You say almost, that's not a 100% thing, meaning there is a possibility of it. WHY DO YOU WANT TO REMOVE TOOLS THAT TOWN POSSESSES?

Cause they are stupid and shouldn’t be used cause they are ineffective.

If you had to dig a hole. Would you use a shovel or a spoon?
Scum hunting = shovel
Stupid gambit = spoon.

Nobody wants a hole digger who uses a spoon. If you can’t realize a shovel is better you need a new line of work.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:14 pm

In post 411, Xiao Long wrote:Except you have been pushing lynches, you've just not put any votes down so you can be like, "Oh, he flipped town? Well, I wasn't voting for him."

I have though. When your scum buddy gets lynched it’s cause I started it. He fucked up in the Hood/game and I exposed him.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:18 pm

Sorry for insulting you if you end up being town. I just dislike your playstle. To me it’s anti-town and ineffective. You make yourself look scummy because half the game wants to lynch you.

You can be mad at my harshness but it’s not my fault that multiple people think you are scum. That’s on you.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:19 pm

And I’m just ignore you from now on. Have a good life. Watch both ways when crossing the street.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:34 pm

In post 423, Wossi wrote:You're self-aware enough to realize your play is problematic but make no effort to correct it?

My play is only problematic to scum and players who play bad on purpose or rely on stupid/bad/ineffective tactics.

I call things as I see them. I hold players to a high level cause I’m sick and tired of coming across players who care so little about the integrity of mafia.

If xl is town. He said “fuck the game integrity “ the moment he said he may be scum. Town should never joke about that. It looks like a scum trick because people will be all “scum would never do that” but imo town should never do it.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 430, Nauci wrote:not providing reads on the other 10 people in the game, which is anti town.

Well I don’t remember asking anyone my reads on others. I don’t share all my reads though cause I don’t give scum more info than they need. If I’ve found 2 scum and I’m fairly certain they will flip scum, why not just worry about getting them lynched?

My neighbor partner is scum guaranteed. It’s not even a shadow of a doubt at this point. I’ll concede XL could be town but I think it’s a low percentage. That’s why I endorse a vig shot. Not having to sort him day 2 helps the game imo.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:51 pm

In post 435, Lord Gurgi wrote:First post admitting that they won't be lynching their reads. In this case, we even get an explicit admission that they won't lynch their read/feud in Derpy's first post. Second post admits to a desire to cast the hammer. Scum behavior.
Couching scumreads as "I don't like anti-town behavior". This is an attempt to build deniability for leaving the wagon if it accidentally grows. Calling it now that Derpy will attempt to defuse any Xiao Long wagon. "I just dislike him, that's not a reason to lynch him".

3 is actually non AI and something I’m doing in every game regardless of alignment.
4. Is what I do as either alignment also so it is also non AI.

You are right about XL, wrong about me. 50% is ok. Nice try.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:52 pm

Btw scum have been caught in rvs so nothing is excluded in this game

Apple Jack · Post Post #456 (isolation #109) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:04 pm

In post 448, Wossi wrote:And Derpy, your play is problematic to me and I'm not scum nor playing badly on purpose.

You are either scum or played bad on purpose.

Town doesn’t say “I’m going to assume you are town” in private but in public vote to lynch me and come back in private and act like everything is fine.

Post 165 is also a post from scum. Town would never make that post cause it’s a blatant misrep.

Nice try

Apple Jack · Post Post #457 (isolation #110) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:05 pm

In post 449, Dunkerdoodles wrote:derpy's town meta is to bus other townies

Lies

Apple Jack · Post Post #458 (isolation #111) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:06 pm

In post 451, Lord Gurgi wrote:Let's see what Derpy does.

Derpy is going to make sure my neighbor is lynched cause he’s caught scum.

Apple Jack · Post Post #459 (isolation #112) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:08 pm

In post 451, Lord Gurgi wrote:Hey Derpy, throw a vote on this wagon.

I’m not voting day one if I don’t have to. And if I do it’s a hammer vote.

Apple Jack · Post Post #461 (isolation #113) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:09 pm

In post 455, Nauci wrote:I'm beginning to feel like XL is low hanging fruit.

That’s why I’d rather vig shoot him. Hopefully we have one.

Apple Jack · Post Post #468 (isolation #114) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:20 pm

In post 464, Lord Gurgi wrote:I feel vindicated by Derpy's sudden cessation of feuding with Xiao Long and continued vigilante calls. Won't lynch him Day One. "Hopes" that a vigilante will kill him Night One. Day Two there will be new information that will make all this a thing of the past.

lol get off your high horse. XL was never going to be today’s lynch. I’ve always advocated him being vig killed.

I’m only backing off him cause he’s acting like a crybaby and I really don’t want to be distracted by him anymore when today’s lynch is already decided.

Apple Jack · Post Post #469 (isolation #115) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:21 pm

Can this game really be as easy as the 3 people who were voting me?

Hmm

Apple Jack · Post Post #489 (isolation #116) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:11 pm

In post 482, Lord Gurgi wrote:Xiao Long: I have made my case against you and Derpy clearly and multiple times. I'm not going to keep restating it. You have both responded as predicted.

Let's get the rope folks.

Vote wossi. He’s the only person getting rope today. If you are actually town stop derping. Wossi is caught

Apple Jack · Post Post #490 (isolation #117) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:12 pm

In post 488, Porkens wrote:Silly Gambits? hmmmm...I don't think there are any silly gambits. I think a gambit, by town or scum, always has a noose in it somewhere. I think scum are more likely to play off a failed gambit as "silly"

All gambits are silly.

Apple Jack · Post Post #492 (isolation #118) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:22 pm

In post 491, Lord Gurgi wrote:The Wossi wagon is stupid. If Derpy actually believed in it, he'd vote rather than continue to lie in wait to drop the hammer.

I do believe in it but I’m sticking to my page 1 statement. It’s not a lie and it’s something I’ve done in multiple games including 1 completed. So take your lie accusation and shove it.

Wossi is confirmed scum. Your refusal is a scum claim.

Hey I’ve found the entire team

Apple Jack · Post Post #496 (isolation #119) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:38 pm

In post 493, Nauci wrote:Why didn't you hammer Wossi?

In post 10, Apple Jack wrote:I’ll vote at or near deadline to prevent a NL. I’ll probably hammer somebody if they are somebody I’m scum reading and people feel like the day has gone on long enough.

The one thing I’m not is a liar.

Apple Jack · Post Post #497 (isolation #120) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:40 pm

In post 494, Lord Gurgi wrote:There is no reason not to vote for "confirmed scum".

There is if me hammering makes me lose my integrity. I don’t lie. I’m not going to flush that down the drain even if it means we wait a couple of more days to lynch scum.

Have you missed the point I’m trying to make here? Town need to play better. Lying is something I personally can’t stand so I’m certainly not going to do it.

Apple Jack · Post Post #499 (isolation #121) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:48 pm

Apple Jack · Post Post #503 (isolation #122) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:04 pm

In post 500, Lord Gurgi wrote:DH: Liar.

XL: Law of Holes.

Haven’t lied once this game but nice try protecting your buddies. At least you are willing to bus xl. If he’s alive day 2 will you vote him with me?

Today wossi is getting lynched. You’re just going to have to accept that.

Also if you’re town I can’t wait to laugh at you and curse you out post game.

Apple Jack · Post Post #505 (isolation #123) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:10 pm

Lucky for everyone I guess. I’ll be in West Virginia at a conference and I’m told internet is shottty. Could be a couple of hours or 3/4 of a day without posts from me.

Apple Jack · Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:01 pm

In post 513, Wossi wrote:And you've only gotten louder and more inane when Lord Gurgi starting poking holes in your gameplay.

Nah I haven’t gotten louder. And he hasn’t poked any holes. But I’m gone most of the day so you’ll get your wish of me not pushing you. You’re still getting lynched though.

Apple Jack · Post Post #535 (isolation #125) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:07 am

In post 165, Wossi wrote:Hi, my name is Derpy Hooves, I'm scum and I very badly want to lynch town, but I so, so, so dont want to be held accountible so someone who reads townier then me please take responsibility! Thanks!

THIS THIS THIS is the post I hate. This is the giant red flag

No town would dare make this terrible of a post while blowing smoke up my ass saying you assume I’m town and trying to get me to talk with you.

And I’m gone like a ghost.

Apple Jack · Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:28 am

In post 571, Lord Gurgi wrote:makes me think I may have been wrong about Derpy.

you think?

Damn you better be scum

Apple Jack · Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:30 pm

Not from me.

Apple Jack · Post Post #588 (isolation #128) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:40 pm

In post 587, Chickadee wrote:I really don’t get why people think I have a lack of posting. This is pretty normal for me. And I have owned up to the sheeping.

To be fair it’s page 24 and you have 21 posts. 5 more than the mod. Granted you aren’t the only one but you are a lower poster and I can’t remember any of your posts.

Apple Jack · Post Post #592 (isolation #129) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:36 pm

I’m clearly getting NKd.

Apple Jack · Post Post #620 (isolation #130) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:43 am

His entire iso is a scum post

Apple Jack · Post Post #622 (isolation #131) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:50 am

Where are the town posts?

I’ll say post 165 is essentially a scum claim. It’s a level of manipulation I could never see from town.

Apple Jack · Post Post #624 (isolation #132) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:08 am

You’ve been asked for town posts first. So go ahead.

Apple Jack · Post Post #625 (isolation #133) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:08 am

As I said his entire iso is scum posts. The contradiction in the neighborhood is scum posts.

Apple Jack · Post Post #629 (isolation #134) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:16 am

Yes and you haven’t responded to him. Don’t ask me for things until you satisfy your prior obligations.

If you want when I get to a computer I can link a bunch of posts but I think almost all of them are scummy and since i think he’s scum it’s just going to be conf.bias

Apple Jack · Post Post #630 (isolation #135) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:18 am

In post 628, Xiao Long wrote:he’s proven to be an anti town player.

That’s hilarious coming from you. Claiming you could be scum is anti-town.

I’m scum hunting and pushing scum reads to be lynched. That’s literally the definition of a town player.

Apple Jack · Post Post #632 (isolation #136) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:21 am

I don’t understand why xl is falling on the sword for his scum mate.

Apple Jack · Post Post #636 (isolation #137) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:45 am

In post 633, Chickadee wrote:
In post 628, Xiao Long wrote:Literally half of Derpys argument is about the neighborhood which is worthless to me since I can’t verify anything he’s said and he’s proven to be an anti town player.
Wossi hasn't tried to deny it. I think that's pretty telling. I think he's trying to backpedal through a look-im-being-honest kind of approach.

He basically confirmed it. Saying he was going to try and use it to his advantage if I was actually scum if when you actually think about it makes no sense.

1. If I’m scum and he’s town no mattter how much he butters me up, I’d never reveal I’m scum or who my partners were.

2. If he wanted to butter me up. He’d be consistent and treat me like I’m town in both forums.

The moment I didn’t take his bait. He turned on me. That’s scum.

Apple Jack · Post Post #637 (isolation #138) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:46 am

In post 627, Xiao Long wrote:Derpy: Piglet wasn’t asking me.

Oh my bad lol. Just read it again when I wasn’t distracted. Sorry

Apple Jack · Post Post #638 (isolation #139) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:48 am

In post 635, Xiao Long wrote:It’s almost as if some people don’t believe everything you say.

Well wossi basically confirmed so I’m proven not be a liar. That should definitely count for something.

Apple Jack · Post Post #642 (isolation #140) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:07 am

In post 639, Xiao Long wrote:Link to confirmation?

Post 183

Apple Jack · Post Post #644 (isolation #141) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:21 am

Yes. Wossi basically supports my narrative of what happened.

Apple Jack · Post Post #649 (isolation #142) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:41 am

In post 648, Chickadee wrote:
In post 641, Xiao Long wrote:Not denying is not the same as confirming.
You're just being petty about semantics right now.

Which is scummy at best. Antitown at worst.

Apple Jack · Post Post #656 (isolation #143) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:55 am

In post 654, wavemode wrote:OR tchill is SK

If so he better shoot XL for us before we catch him and lynch him.

Apple Jack · Post Post #658 (isolation #144) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:01 am

I’m eager to kill my scum reads.

Apple Jack · Post Post #660 (isolation #145) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:18 am

We will see. Neither of you have done anything that looks like town and considering at least half the player list thinks you and he are scum I feel good about my reads.

Apple Jack · Post Post #677 (isolation #146) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:42 am

In post 665, Wossi wrote:
In post 535, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 165, Wossi wrote:Hi, my name is Derpy Hooves, I'm scum and I very badly want to lynch town, but I so, so, so dont want to be held accountible so someone who reads townier then me please take responsibility! Thanks!
THIS THIS THIS is the post I hate. This is the giant red flag

No town would dare make this terrible of a post while blowing smoke up my ass saying you assume I’m town and trying to get me to talk with you.

And I’m gone like a ghost.
I just realized mu post 165 was made long after you had shut down the neighborhood. Derpy's version of events ARE false.

Derpy made his last post in the neighborhood (asking the mod to remove him) while we were on page five in the main thread. Reread the first five pages again and tell me if his behavior is warranted, thanks.

My recap of what happened wasn’t false and I’ll be glad to post a screen shot to prove you are lying scum.

Post 165 wasn’t what made me shut the neighborhood down and I never claimed it was.

Apple Jack · Post Post #679 (isolation #147) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:43 am

In post 670, Xiao Long wrote:Also wtf, why would you ask the mod to remove you, Derpy? That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve heard.

Why would I want to be in a forum with someone i think is scum and I’m not going to communicate with?

Apple Jack · Post Post #681 (isolation #148) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:44 am

In post 672, Xiao Long wrote:Like even if you are town and think he’s scum, why wouldn’t you continue talking to him and use it to your advantage? This is the biggest problem I have with Derpys neighborhood argument, none of his decisions actually make sense from a strategic viewpoint.

Why would I want to talk to scum? I’d rather lynch him.

Apple Jack · Post Post #683 (isolation #149) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:46 am

I pm’d the mod on Monday at 4:42. A minute after I called him scum in the pf.

Apple Jack · Post Post #690 (isolation #150) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:57 am

In post 684, Wossi wrote:"No town would dare make this terrible of a post while blowing smoke up my ass saying you assume I’m town and trying to get me to talk with you."

???

This is present tense, implying that I made post 165 while simultaneously talking to you in the neighborhood. That's false. You are being dishonest and attempting to manipulate town to push my lynch.

That wasn’t what I was implying. At least it wasn’t my intention. Even after I shut it down your last post was saying I’m making a mistake. Clearly I wasn’t

Apple Jack · Post Post #691 (isolation #151) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:59 am

In post 685, Xiao Long wrote:Because it could provide information useful for town? Because he could fuck up and name his buddy? Because it has zero benefit for town to leave the thread?

I already explained this a while back. Anything I have to say can be made here. Hiding information from town is bad and antitown. We need to be transparent so we can make an informed decision.

That’s why I hate when masons have private conversations in their thread and why most masons end up looking scummy. No scum is going to reveal their partners. Don’t be Derpy

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:00 am

In post 687, Wossi wrote:Neighborhood was over way before 165. Even overconfidant and stubborn town has zero reason for that kind of tampering

VOTE: Derpy Hooves

It also blows up my reasoning for town reading you. I thought your desperation to be a mafia genius was tainting uou play. But this calculated. You're really trying to manipulate the neighborhood case in order to get me lynched!

I don’t think I ever said 165 was made before I shut it down.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:07 am

You don’t even believe me when I recap exactly what happened in the Hood. To talk with him in the Hood I’d have to

1. Lie and pretend I think he’s town - can’t do that
2. Engage in enough conversation and hope he slips something- small chance imo
3. Convince town it actually happened and get them to listen to me. - unlikely to happen since he’s confirmed scum now and isn’t lynched.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:09 am

In post 694, Wossi wrote:No, intention is clear. You slipped and now your backtracking. You implied there was action in the thread when thee was none.

No I didn’t. The moment you voted me I knew you were lying in the Hood. 165 wasn’t why I shut the Hood down. 165 was why I knew 100% you were scum though.

How bad do you want to 1 v 1 this? Cause I’m willing to go off the cliff to prove I’m town and get you lynched. You ready for that?

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:32 am

In post 697, Xiao Long wrote:What’s the problem with lying

I don’t like lying.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:33 am

In post 699, Tchill13 wrote:Smh Lynch Wossi

This.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:34 am

In post 698, Wossi wrote:you imply that the neighborhood is active when it is not.

I didn’t though. I never once said it was active

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:49 am

In post 703, Xiao Long wrote:Ok 1. I said what’s the problem with lying to scum?
And 2. Lol it’s literally a game revolving around lying and seeing through others lies. If you really had a problem with lying, you would replace out of every scum game.

1. Is have to have lots of conversations perpetuating a lie. Not gonna do that for a small percentage payoff.
2. I lie very little as scum actually. It’s a blessing so many townies play like shit. I just push people who do things I legitimately scum read.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:50 am

In post 708, Wossi wrote:Clarification: Derpy's dishonestly in post 535 where he implies the neighborhood is active when its not, where he implies that I was still talking to him when I wasn't

And I never implied you were still talking to me.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:55 am

Except I’m not scum. You are.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:56 am

Everyone. Whatever happens today. Just remember to lynch wossi tomorrow ok?

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:03 am

Dude you are arguing semantics over me using the wrong tense. Gtfoh

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:03 am

In post 716, Wossi wrote:
In post 713, Apple Jack wrote:Except I’m not scum. You are.

I'm not the one who shut down the neighborhood

Because you are scum and I don’t want to talk to scum who pretended to be my friend.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:11 am

In post 719, Wossi wrote:
In post 714, Apple Jack wrote:Everyone. Whatever happens today. Just remember to lynch wossi tomorrow ok?
What is this drivel why are you acting like you're already dead, there's two people voting for you. Why would you even make this post except for more manipulation?

I’m probably going to replace out if you aren’t lynched cause if you aren’t I’m afraid I’m going to do something I’ll regret.

In post 720, Wossi wrote:
In post 717, Apple Jack wrote:Dude you are arguing semantics over me using the wrong tense. Gtfoh
Oh is that what they call a slip nowadays? Just semantics?

You were blowing smoke up my ass in the private forum. That’s not a lie or a slip. That’s the facts.

You were the one who all of sudden thinks I meant you were doing it when I made the post. You didn’t bother to bring it up when I made the post. You think you found a way to mislynch me but you’ll lose. If I die today you are guranteed to die tomorrow.

I’m ok with a 1 v 1. Are you? Day1 or day2 you are dead.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:28 am

In post 722, Lord Gurgi wrote:Threatening to replace out should be against forum rules.

Lots of things should be against forum rules. But it isn’t and it’s not a threat. I feel I’m about to cross a line which I’m getting close to atm. I’ll do the right thing to prevent ruining the game.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:29 am

Like at this point if one of wasso or myself aren’t lynched this is going to continue day 2.

So just pick me or him and let’s move on with the game.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:33 am

In post 723, Wossi wrote:You only forget when your trying to misrep me.

I wasn’t trying to misrep you. You were blowing stoke up my ass imo in the neighborhood.

Just cause I type too fast and don’t think out my posts half the time doesn’t mean it was intentional.

Just like when I thought XL was ignoring a request but the request wasn’t actually directed at him.

Mistakes happen. I messed up and used the wrong tense but that doesn’t change the fact that is what you were doing. I’m sorry I used the wrong tense but you can fuck off with that scum slip nonsense.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:33 am

In post 727, Xiao Long wrote:Alright Wossi and Derpy, none of this replacing out AtE bullsht. Gimme a good clean fight.

Spoiler:

Wossi or myself are the only lynches today. Pick one

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:39 am

I’m not trying to threaten the game. I’m just trying to make it enjoyable again. You can do whatever you want but until I know how I play. Until my top scum read is dead, I am incapable of moving on.

So if you are ok with me and wossi going at it until his team kills me(which will probably be never) I’m ok with that. I’ll just not let him bait me into doing something I’ll regret and I’ll try to ignore him while at the same time trying to lynch him.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:50 am

In post 739, Dunkerdoodles wrote:well based on previous meta you vs derpy should be tvt but who knows

So lynch one of us. That’s the easiest solution

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:13 pm

In post 739, Dunkerdoodles wrote:well based on previous meta you vs derpy should be tvt but who knows

Stop using meta

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:21 pm

In post 742, Lord Gurgi wrote:Every person in this game with a town read on you justifies it by meta.

They shouldn’t though.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:22 pm

Dunker who are your scum reads again?

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:38 pm

In post 749, Lord Gurgi wrote:
In post 745, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 742, Lord Gurgi wrote:Every person in this game with a town read on you justifies it by meta.
They shouldn’t though.
I can't even begin to grasp what your life must be like. At this point, I have to conclude that you are so deeply illogical, stubborn, and frenetic that I can't be sure of your motivation one way or the other.

Honestly the playstyles of the people in this game are exasperating. Are you guys trying to help the town win or so confound everything that you personally survive and maybe win the game by chance?

Why do you have to take things out of the game? My life is just fine actually. I’m a completely different person irl not that it’s any of your business.

People shouldn’t use meta cause meta can be manipulated.

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:39 pm

In post 751, Tchill13 wrote:THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAY TOWN TALKS CIRCLES AND ENDS UP NOT LYNCHING SCUM.

Last I checked Xl is at l-2. You want him dead. Why aren’t you voting him?

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:44 pm

In post 755, Tchill13 wrote:Cus Wossi is scum and there's a decent chance xl is town even though he's played for attention.

Why do you think he’s scum?

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:47 pm

In post 757, Tchill13 wrote:I already laid out my case on Wossi. Do you think something has happened that should have changed my mind?

I just don’t remember seeing your case and I want to make sure you aren’t just buddying me

Apple Jack · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:48 pm

People are making a big deal about my reasons but if others have valid reasons I want to know why those are being ignored. I feel like scum wants the fighting to continue

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:49 am

In post 829, Wossi wrote:
In post 826, Nauci wrote:
In post 801, Wossi wrote:Nauci, how do you know there are more then two scum?
I assumed in a normal game of 13 people 3 scum is typical?
VOTE: Nauci

Why is that vote worthy?

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:07 am

In post 835, Wossi wrote:Why would you assume there's three scum sharing a faction? No where on the wiki or in this games rules does it have any kind of number or indication.

3 scum is pretty much the norm for normal games.

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:51 am

In post 839, Wossi wrote:3 scum all in th same faction? People were floating SK theories earlier. I think its a slip that she said "partners" . What does the town have to lose by examining Nauci?

Yes 3 scum is standard.

3 and sk is possible
2 and 2 is possible
2 and 1 is also possible but rare.

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:56 am

In post 850, Wossi wrote:It just looks to me like scum trying to get guidance from a buddy

Scum have day chat so they could get guidance in their pf.

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:58 am

Wossi why did you wait til now to question 3 scum when multiple people have made reference to it all game including myself?

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:01 pm

I’m not even taking to you. Why did you feel the need to direct that at me?

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:04 pm

I’m kind of torn on wossi now. I have to decide if he’s faking ignorance or if he legitimately didn’t know about 3 scum being standard.

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:11 pm

In post 861, Wossi wrote:
In post 853, Apple Jack wrote:Wossi why did you wait til now to question 3 scum when multiple people have made reference to it all game including myself?
Use of the word partners instead of partner was weird to me, seemed too sure and not speculative. But I've already revoked that point and admitted my error.

Derpy you don't think anything is odd how Nauci and Animetrix interact?

I haven’t noticed anything weird but haven’t really paid close attention. Like I said if they were scum together they could talk in private.

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:16 pm

In post 863, wavemode wrote:More to the point: what specifically about this latest exchange is making you turn around on your deathtunnel position?

Just thinking of past experiences. Majority of the time when a newbie questions the number of scum in a game they have been town. I’ve seen only once where scum faked it.

My issue is he should have pointed it out sooner.

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:21 pm

I’m not sold on you being town yet but historically what you did points to town. Could be fake.

Apple Jack · Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:28 pm

In post 869, wavemode wrote:lol so nothing else Wossi said this game up to that point tipped you off that he was a noob? lmao

I knew he was a n00b. Just thought he was n00b scum.

Apple Jack · Post Post #885 (isolation #190) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:44 am

Nobody is going to lynch me cause I’m obvious town. You are just giving people more reason to want to lynch you imo.

Wossi or xl are good lynches still.

Apple Jack · Post Post #887 (isolation #191) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:00 am

I’m perfectly fine getting lynched from this ducking game

Apple Jack · Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:32 pm

Unless somebody is going to make a compelling argument on someone else it seems wossy/xl are the most likely lynches with me as a 3rd option. No point in waiting a week to decide on these 3 people.

Apple Jack · Post Post #898 (isolation #193) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:03 pm

I wouldn’t object to his lynch either

Apple Jack · Post Post #930 (isolation #194) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:28 am

In post 926, Wossi wrote:I really don't like how Derpy is trying to pretend like his tunneling never happened. No acknowledgement, no transparency, just subtle under-the-radar revision of game play.

what the fuck are you talking about? I have never once denied tunneling you or pretended like it never happened.

Apple Jack · Post Post #931 (isolation #195) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:29 am

In post 928, Chickadee wrote:What specifically are you referencing here, because it's seemed to me like Derpy has been well aware of his tunnel vision from the get-go.

exactly. I have never denied it. he is full of shit.

Apple Jack · Post Post #932 (isolation #196) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:30 am

In post 929, Wossi wrote:That's what makes his recent wavering in the quotes above odd

having second thoughts and explaining WHY I am having second thoughts isn't odd.

Apple Jack · Post Post #933 (isolation #197) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:31 am

In post 929, Wossi wrote:Granted, I don't have any problem with people changing their minds, people SHOULD change their minds.

yet you are suspicious of me for thinking I could be wrong... doesn't compute

Apple Jack · Post Post #934 (isolation #198) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:32 am

In post 929, Wossi wrote:But if you reread the last couple pages its like he's trying to slip under the radar after his outbursts.

nope, I have not been trying to slip under the radar actually. Stop misrepping and lying about me.

Apple Jack · Post Post #936 (isolation #199) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:39 am

In post 935, Wossi wrote:It's the way you changed your mind. You never said, hey town, maybe I was wrong about Wossi. You just kind of.......backed down quietly.

I didn't? are you sure?

In post 857, Apple Jack wrote:I’m kind of torn on wossi now. I have to decide if he’s faking ignorance or if he legitimately didn’t know about 3 scum being standard.

you fucking quoted me even.

gtfoh