Newbie 1544 - Shakespeare Mafia: GAME OVER!
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VOTE: klingon
Who doesn't want to kill a klingon!?
Also, I'd like to request that anyone with a town role do not self hammer. I'd also prefer not self votes at all, but unlikely to see that as someone is going to self vote RVS anyways.
Alright. Closest thing to being helpful I'm going to be. I'll leave anything else up to the IC.-
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In post 22, Klingoncelt wrote:Is this not RVS in a noob game? Don't worry, my voting will be more suitable once the Random Voting is over.
Still doesn't explain to me why the IC?-
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In post 48, House wrote:In post 47, roseylily wrote:In post 16, aphix wrote:Roseylilly: What do you think of shinobis RVS sheep here?
It was an RVS vote, and it was only the second vote. I don't think it's a particularly scummy move.
I'm House, and I approve this post.
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In post 59, House wrote:In post 55, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 43, House wrote:In post 42, Shinobi wrote:It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.
I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.
Funny, voting someone for acting scummy isn't all that important... but giving a player the third degree for casting a random vote on somebody that hasn't even posted yet (and thus having no interaction to analyze) is somehow justifiable?
Moonlogic.
It seems justifiable to me. The game hadn't started, aphix isn't sure how to get the game started, aphix is overaggressive, not to mention that I've never regarded overly aggressive questioning as a bad thing.
Aggressive and logical is good, but twisting a person's words to pressure them is b/s.
Hardly twisting words. Perhaps you are reading too much into the caps that are there because my phone weirded out and I wasn't going to go back and retype everything.-
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I'm not really sure what happened there, but I rest my case on Klingon. That is some super overreaction. Me asking why his vote is on the IC has all the sudden lead to whiteknighting and scum buddies. That's pretty extreme words for page three with NO interaction between the two parties.
I was just asking you why. Without a why, even for RVS it's hard to get the game going. Newbie scum tend to think the IC is better for some reason and tend to lean in that direction in my experience. The fact that you couldn't answer that question, is a bit concerting. Couldn't just say, it was a random vote. I rolled a dice. I don't like nachos. My mother beat me as a child. I don't know, instead you say, well he could be scum. Your first post voting for someone because they "could be scum" seems a little fishy.
I also like how you say I twist your words and now your saying I have an OMGUS vote on Jagged App .... Please look at my vote history.
I'm completely fine with my vote for now.
Shinobi I agree with you that the nacho entrance feels off. I don't necessarily see it coming from a scum perspective but we'll see.-
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Oh lets not forget Klingons definitely familiar with mafia terms and certainly has no hold back in throwing some weight around, but does toss out the "I'm a defenseless newbie card" right ....
In post 71, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 70, Klingoncelt wrote:Aphix post 16: "Klingon: Why the IC vote? Classic newbie scum move there."
Aphix post 23: "Still doesn't explain to me why the IC?"
Where in those quotes does anyone see the word "lurker?"
Nowhere, that's where.
I never said anything about Nacho lurking.
Someone's lying about my RVS vote.
Which is now a serious vote.
No, wait, I posted that too soon while highly distracted.
Nacho, are you Aphix's Scum Buddy?
Aphix, why are you White Knighting Nacho? Why are so so after a noob in her very first game here?
And, Aphix, why the OMGUS vote on Jagged Appliance?
Also curious where this lurking crap comes from ... Klingon pulls it completely out of his ass from what I can see in thread. Says people are misrepping his vote based on saying he said someones lurking, and that means a vote me is legitament?
If I somehow missed something can someone point where someone mentioned lurking business before Klingon brought it up?
... here.
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In post 16, aphix wrote:You guys are killing me. Open for twelve hours and we are on post 16 ....
Shinobi: good plan.
Roseylilly: What do you think of shinobis RVS sheep here?
Klingon: Why the IC vote? Classic newbie scum move there.
In post 23, aphix wrote:In post 22, Klingoncelt wrote:Is this not RVS in a noob game? Don't worry, my voting will be more suitable once the Random Voting is over.
Still doesn't explain to me why the IC?
In post 27, aphix wrote:I thought this was a RVS VOTE. NOW HES SCUM?
Scuse the caps posting on phone.
In post 29, aphix wrote:So why the vote on him?
House, where in here is there an indicator of rabid dog on a newbie?-
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House: I don't expect anyone to know someone who hasn't posted is scum. Unless as stated, by process of elimination.
Hell I wasn't even concerned with klingon for most of it other then feeling like they were dodging questions, so I figured I'd poke. Rereading the thread still seems a lot of problems comign from post , that should read as:
In post 27, aphix wrote:I thought this was a RVS vote. Now he's scum?
HENCE.
In post 27, aphix wrote:Scuse the caps posting on phone.
I saw that I double tapped caps for RVS and didn't remove it. It's too much effort to retype on my phone AND:
In post 61, aphix wrote:Perhaps you are reading too much into the caps that are there because my phone weirded out and I wasn't going to go back and retype everything.
I wasn't actually concerned on Klingon's alignment other then potential 'newb' until 66 and their posts go down hill from there. They pull some crap about nacho saying she called him a lurker, which from what I can see didn't happen. They say nacho is lying about her RVS vote ... Nacho's lying(that I don't ever see happening) seems to be cause for me to be scum ....
In 86 me questioning their RVS vote becomes telling them they can't RVS vote. Please tell me where I stated that? And who's misrepping who now. They bring up the all caps bit, which I think I've been pretty clear on. Then in the same post, goes from being fairly reasonable, I'm being picked on to outright exploding all over the thread. Starts throwing in some name calling and insults. Then more on me lying ... I again never said you called nacho scum. I asked you a question.
Also, I really enjoy the attention spent on my OMGUSing Jagged App. Notice Klingon you are the only one paying attention to it. Because it was RVS crap meant to get reactions. You latching onto it and every other tiny straw and trying to make it into a case, is bullshit and overly defensive. You say I omgus voted klingon but blow up at me for giving you a little attention? Sweetheart, you either aren't suited to be on the internet your post is an indication of your blood pressure, or your post is full of faked emotion, because you are scum, and I'm the lucky mother fucker that poked the overreactive scum early in the game. I am pretty lucky so I'd vote that one.-
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Also, if you all think I was just overreacting to one thing, how about look that I was putting out feelers to multiple people. Jagged App hasn't posted since then. Rose posted a completely straightforward direct response, and I continued pursuing the one that was one, actively posting, and two, I have a bad feeling about their posting so far. Sue me. But you don't find shit in a pot without stirring, and I'm damn good at stirring a pot.-
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House, actually I've come to the conclusion already based on the few games I have, that I don't play by site meta ... I'm not really a big fan of how you are assuming here, instead of interacting. Nor how your trying merge a tone from helping Klingong(Which is either fine and SE being helpful, or it's leading someone.), and transitioning that tone into an attempt to persuade me.
VOTE: House
Whole things reads fishy. Don't like it.-
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You have one vote on you and you already jump to:
In post 118, House wrote:I don't care if you lynch me right now, the numbers are in town's favor.
Not much town motivation there in my viewpoint. May only be antitown play, but a little early to start on the apathy. This needs to be lynch if its going to continue like this.-
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In post 129, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 127, aphix wrote:You guys mind saving it for your night chat?
Town doesn't have night talk.
My point exactly. I think I'm going to be gone into tomorrow or more unless we get some town players in here and something exciting happens. Have a good night.-
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In post 153, House wrote:In post 95, aphix wrote:House: I don't expect anyone to know someone who hasn't posted is scum. Unless as stated, by process of elimination.
Been meaning to ask... Why did I have to be patient for such a lazy, boring answer?
I figured you were working on some big reveal, but then that ^^^ fizzled out.
No particular reason. Although what sort of big reveal you were expecting this early in a game, I'm not really sure.-
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I move votes? I have two votes this game unless I'm mistaken? Pretty sure I've explained why I'm moving them. Now if you want to say reasons you don't understand? Sure I can understand that as I'm not likely to have a full logical case or anything very well founded beyond how I read the thread. You'd have to trust me when I say I do fairly well with it.-
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In post 246, House wrote:In post 229, aphix wrote:I'll just hope being ignored on the House front does cause issues in the future.
Alrighty then. So, are you upset that people are ignoring your opinion of me? If so, have you examined that opinion objectively or are you (like me) stubborn and tend to stick to your guns?
Welp, honestly since I've called you scum to me your posts have become more cold and calculated House-like. Which is still a concern. It does take a lot to change me off my gut reads. We'll have to see. I don't have anything stronger to go off of and people don't see the same things I do. So hopefully I'm wrong in it.-
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In post 258, WBOCampfire1104 wrote:oops.
I MUST KNOW HOW TO EDIT
but this is why I'm not aggresive.
Yet.
"That ... Yeah that looks good. That goes for me too. Me too!"-
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In post 268, Shinobi wrote:Those reads are awful and mostly unexplained. In the case that some of them were explained, the explanations were bad.
I'll just keep my vote here then.
In post 269, House wrote:Damn you WBO, you are making me agree with Shinobi.
I'll never forgive you for this.
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Ane probtown. Unfortunately I don't think they have a good grasp on the game state here ... I'm also concerned that at this point in the game they aren't going to take any firm stances. Yay. More fence sitting. At this rate we are going to be in another Newbie Game deadline lynch. This'll be fun.
House: Yes, there isn't anything else I wanted to comment on at the time about your readlist. Also, just as likely you don't want to see a wbo lynch on your scum buddy thanks to an RVS vote, but either way good advice.
Ane: If you really care to know about that exchange, if you haven't figured it out it was all about trying to get responses and get the game rolling. I continued pushing on it as NOTHING ELSE WAS HAPPENING. Again, if you'd please read the one post everyone is basis me being a complete dick on not in caps because it wasn't intended that way it wouldn't be as fucking extreme as you guys want to continue leaning on.
Although honestly, from what I've seen in games I've played and read, newb scum well tend to focus on IC, SE in terms of pushes. They tend to see them as the biggest threat I would assume so try to push there. Unfortunately IC and SE aren't always the people with the most mafia games in.-
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This needs to be lynched. Period.-
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[quote="In post 311, Klingoncelt]
So Aphix and Shinobi are the scum team?[/quote]
You won the game on page thirteen? Without many players posting and tons of replacements. And really haven't attempted to develop your reads or scum hunt. Your right. Let's go home. Game over.-
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In post 314, WBOCampfire1104 wrote:I'm actually going to TRY now (watch House remark on this statement)
Once I come on to scene, House stops pushing Shinobi wagon
SUSPICION.
(weak)
Seriously, did you put a lot of though to undermine your own post? I've seen posts this bad, which I was aiming to make people think they were conf biasing on me. Luckily I don't think this is the case here, which indicated to me hmmm. ... Well if I say what I think I'll just be considering more of asshole.
Because house ninja'd me, he has a point there too. Since he's still been pushing shinobi in my opinion.-
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In post 64, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 29, aphix wrote:So why the vote on him?
So why not?
Is there some rule I'm unaware of that says that you're allowed to tell the noobs how to vote?
Your overreaction to an RVS vote makes it pretty clear, you and Nacho are scumbuddies.
Okay, game over, Town wins.
Yay!
In/next
Your right. You won on page three. Go home, already.-
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Although I wouldn't be surprised to see an unvote once the person reads the game.
Because I was ninja'd:
So you'd assume scum before bad logic ... While providing no actual reasons of your own. Or was to track your thought process. Just accusations and holding to a single vote all game. In the least you are anti town. Or your scum.
I suspect the former.
Though now my no might make sense.-
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In post 338, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 332, aphix wrote:Although I wouldn't be surprised to see an unvote once the person reads the game.
Because I was ninja'd:
So you'd assume scum before bad logic ... While providing no actual reasons of your own. Or was to track your thought process. Just accusations and holding to a single vote all game. In the least you are anti town. Or your scum.
I suspect the former.
Though now my no might make sense.
I thought your "no" was referring to the slight error in the vote count.
It was.
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