Mafia Invictus Redux [Game Over]

[Fey]

I'm pretty positive they wouldn't have listened.

okay. you know mena better than i do so maybe you're right. what's your point here though?

That he knows how to read me when I get in my feelings better than probably anyone else on this site.

[fireisredsir]

no, that's your point to kovu. what is your point in response to what I was saying?

[Fey]

no, that's your point to kovu. what is your point in response to what I was saying?

...? I've already said what I need to. Which part don't you get.

[Kovu]

marci went "fey town fey town fey's vote was weird" like, overall... not lots better...

is fireisredsir historically bad with keeping up with hoods as scum?

i historically haven't played in a hood as scum

my one scumgame here was as amumu lol

NOOO WAIT U WERE AMUMUMUMU??? WHY DID IT GET ERASED FROM MY MEMORY.... I REMEMBER I WAS VIBING WITH AMUMUMUMU BUT I DIDNT REMEMBER WHO IT WAS....

is fireisredsir historically bad with keeping up with hoods as scum?

fire kept up, like it wasn't anything super bad, its mostly just been encouraging my bad takes and shutting down my good ones, the most recent is fire like telling me it's dumb I tr enchant or whatever then FIRE is trying to tell ME to use the hood to solve... EXCUSE ME... THERE'S ALMOST MORE POSTS IN THAT HOOD THAN IN HERE.... I HAVE BEEN SOLVING and literally every single thought I have had is in that PT (minus last night) not once did fire ask me my read on anyone in that PT, yet fire is NOW trying to tell me to solve or something.. lmao

oh did he give any reasons on why its "dumb to tr enchant"? the way ur describing it makes him seem scummy

i don't really think this is an accurate assessment of datisi as scum at all. have you read datisi scum games at all, and if not what made you come to this conclusion?

i havent seen datisi as scum at all and im not gonna meta read

i came to the conclusion because thats just how i think hes like, he gives very much vibes like hes doubtful in his abilities all the time to do stuff, am i wrong? i thought i remembered a game where he kept doubting his reads and going back and forth on them, but am i remembeing the wrong person?

@Marci what's up with the all caps posting??

i think i did that because i felt rushed, i know one of the posts i made at work and the other one while i was crossing the street

i imagine you very timid as scum

lol.

i- i- i-
go away.....
stop bullying me...
im not timid as scum... its just when i roll scum its always against people im scared of...
tbh i just generally play timid...
BUT THATS NOT MY POINT

i actually do think ur scum, and i actually do have reasons, but tbh a magician never reveals their secrets unless people ask

I actually like Fey for bandwagoning to Datisi, but don't really have any opinion on the other votes or anyone else rlly

I like fey as well, she keeps asking questions and it seems like those questions are her trying to push the game forward so i think shes towny

Anyways,

Still voting Dwlee, if that wagon's not a thing then RIP. I don't actually know how to read Dunn.

If Meuh flares up I'll go there. Sure. Why not.

also yeah this feels weird idk y tho

fey, because earlier when i was looking at the votes on dwlees wagon her vote stuck out the most to me. it seemed pretty scummy and her other posts regarding dwlee do as well tbhs

cakez, 1) i dont fully believe all the "confirmed" ppl are telling the truth 2) i think alot of his content just mainly circles back to him susing a handful of people, i dont think hes trying to look at the full picture, theres alot of posts where hes just like "this is horrible/shitty/whatever he says" and i feel like thats just him trying to prevent progression of the game

gorilla, but only if luke is still so hell bent on them. i feel like we need to settle that feud between them or else luke will hella tunnel!! i also think it will help with sorting meuh because of their fight earlier this phase!!
i think alot of gorillas posts are just explainly explainly things, i think that would be pretty easy for scum to fake.

@marci, why did you choose to be on bell?

i thought maybe it would be better to incase bell was telling the truth
like, i feel like it couldve been likely for scum to want to try and kill him before he could actually clear himself, idk how dumb scumteam is but i remember a few games where me and meuh play where a shitton of clears happened and then the scumteam all got caught because they couldnt do shit about it. i thought maybe scumteam might try to prevent that sort of shit?

+

who else would i have targeted? i had no other options in mind LOL

[fireisredsir]

i said that i thought that scum!kovu would probably be able to convince RR to shoot town. since gamma flipped scum, that would just mean anyone but gamma.

kovu would almost certainly be able to convince RR to shoot me. she could just claim I slipped in hood or something

RR shot scum. that makes me think kovu is more likely to be town.

your response to that is that what I said doesn't fit with RR's trajectory on you. how is that relevant to the point i was making?

[Kovu]

i said that i thought that scum!kovu would probably be able to convince RR to shoot town. since gamma flipped scum, that would just mean anyone but gamma.

kovu would almost certainly be able to convince RR to shoot me. she could just claim I slipped in hood or something

RR shot scum. that makes me think kovu is more likely to be town.

your response to that is that what I said doesn't fit with RR's trajectory on you. how is that relevant to the point i was making?

that's your "case" for why it's not me? lmaoooo

[Fey]

i said that i thought that scum!kovu would probably be able to convince RR to shoot town. since gamma flipped scum, that would just mean anyone but gamma.

kovu would almost certainly be able to convince RR to shoot me. she could just claim I slipped in hood or something

RR shot scum. that makes me think kovu is more likely to be town.

your response to that is that what I said doesn't fit with RR's trajectory on you. how is that relevant to the point i was making?

My point's just that no one would convince R+R and I think it's moot. I don't really get why you're going down this line of questioning.

[Fey]

VOTE: fireisredsir

Ya sorry after that one I'm not gonna get to a mafia!Kovu, if I am bad at the game whatever.

[fireisredsir]

it was one specific point that was relevant to the flip which was what was immediately on my mind after seeing the flip

there's approximately a billion other things that have happened this game, so no, that isn't a "case". why would i even be making that case? i was just thinking out loud

[Kovu]

I'm so conflicted. Everything inside me says fire is mafia. If I'm wrong... I'm going to be so upset...

[Fey]

I'll answer what I can for you, if it'll help.

[fireisredsir]

im saying that your response to it was bad because it doesn't come from a town mindset. you were just looking for a gotcha and didn't stop to think it all the way through

[Fey]

Also one point that I'm not going to linger on for reasons is the uh. Stuff that happened with Gamma. Nod.

[fireisredsir]

ok VOTE: Fey

[Fey]

im saying that your response to it was bad because it doesn't come from a town mindset. you were just looking for a gotcha and didn't stop to think it all the way through

You're wasting your time talking about a point that doesn't go anywhere though. Why should I entertain it more than a gotcha.

[Kovu]

and for the record I think gamma was ALWAYS RR's shot there.. we were all pretty set on meuh/dunn/gamma team.

fire, how you were before the meuh flip was so odd, it literally felt like you were trying to do... something?? idk how to explain that.
Uhh I'm gonna go back to reading me outing the hood real quick


hahahaha would you look at that.. the game is in my hands.... frick

[Fey]

It kinda sucks that 2/3 mafia died outside of wagoning.

[Kovu]

Looking back Fey looks town - the early Datisi push was much more about info-gathering/discussing things with Datisi than pushing for them as a mis-elim. The Dwlee vote from her was a little weak on its own but the followup now to Meuh feels v. good. Tonally I like the posting a lot too, though that may just be me relating to it personally than it being strictly more likely to come from town than scum.

@Marci - since you're voting me how do you feel about my not-you reads? Or my votes yesterday after it become clear that you weren't going to get elim'd that game day? Do you think I'm more likely to be scum given the flips, and/or that anyone else is more likely to be town b/c of them?

@Meuh - Which of Cakez's reads do you think are iffy?

another scum member just openly calling fey town... I don't think I have EVER seen a scum do that for their partner, and here we have 2 calling fey town...

sorry fire... it's not looking good.. but I'm not dragging out the game, we'll end this tonight

[fireisredsir]

im saying that your response to it was bad because it doesn't come from a town mindset. you were just looking for a gotcha and didn't stop to think it all the way through

You're wasting your time talking about a point that doesn't go anywhere though. Why should I entertain it more than a gotcha.

it was the first thing on my brain after seeing the flip. obv it doesn't matter now but i didn't have this 3p planned out from the start like you clearly did, so i was just thinking things through still

[fireisredsir]

fire, how you were before the meuh flip was so odd, it literally felt like you were trying to do... something?? idk how to explain that.

what do you mean?

[Fey]

Vote Count 1.9

FLAVOR

A cheer erupts from the crowd as Elon takes the stage at the Asimov SuperLARP Conference 2022

"Ladies, gentlemen, aspiring androids and cybergoths, today is a big day! I'm here to announce that our new Gigafactory at Selah will be pumping out our first Cybertrucks starting April 2023!"

He sweats nervously, remembering that the Gigafactory hasn't even been built yet. Probably the government's fault.

"I first thought of the Cybertruck while playing Superman 64 and wishing I was in one of the cars. As you can see, behind me is our latest revision with the "Cybertank" tread modification. So stay on the lookout you January 6ers, you might get up to Capitol Hill yet!"

Laughter erupts and the crowd is enamored. Quick to seize the chance, Elon speaks.

"Here's another thing to get excited for: I have a special surprise for you today! Can I get a volunteer from the audience?"

Player	Votes
LavarManos (11)	gorilla (790), Lukewarm (796), fireisredsir (800), Val89 (803), Meuh (822), Dwlee99 (953), Datisi (962), Bell (1014), Dunnstral (1090), VP Baltar (1123), Enchant (1134)
Dwlee99 (5)	Kovu (1009), Fey (1011), Lady Lambdadelta (1013), Gammagooey (1022), SirCakez (1034)
Datisi (2)	LavarManos (950), marcistar (1116)
Not Voting (2)	Malakittens (130), Rhyme and Reason (964)

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to eliminate.

An elimination has been achieved! Day 1 is over, stand by for resolution.

Spoiler: Postcount Tracker

Player	Daystart postcount	Reserves
Bell	0	10
Fey	0	10
fireisredsir	0	10
Lady Lambdadelta	0	10
Malakittens	0	10
Lukewarm	0	10
Dunnstral	0	10
Rhyme and Reason	0	10
Meuh	0	10
Val89	0	10
marcistar	0	10
Dwlee99	0	10
Gammagooey	0	10
Kovu	0	10
VP Baltar	0	10
Datisi	0	10
LavarManos	0	10
Enchant	0	10
SirCakez	0	10
gorilla	0	10

Posts are capped at 125 posts per slot per dayphase. Please see the Ruleset and FAQ for more information and tips on tracking your postcount.

[Fey]

Switch my name to red if you wanna think about the mafia!me world in that but ehh... helps to visualize.

[Fey]

im saying that your response to it was bad because it doesn't come from a town mindset. you were just looking for a gotcha and didn't stop to think it all the way through

You're wasting your time talking about a point that doesn't go anywhere though. Why should I entertain it more than a gotcha.

it was the first thing on my brain after seeing the flip.

obv it doesn't matter now but i didn't have this 3p planned out from the start like you clearly did, so i was just thinking things through still

Also I just read this and the bolded is literally the like.

Idk how you would even name it.

The thing scum says to the town they're fighting trying to paint them as so nefarious. The cliche sort of line. "YOU were scheming I KNOW IT."

It made me laugh a whole lot.

[fireisredsir]

Vote Count 2.3

FLAVOR

"You know, Selah is going to be the next Babylon, the next Rome, but bigger. Lasting. We're really starting from zero here, but one day it'll be the center of the all economic and cultural activity, the premier economic hub of the galaxy."

"You don't have to sell me on it anymore, Elon. We're already onboard and making plans. I think everyone's excited for the new Gigafactory."

"Tangibles are important but it's the name, the naming is also important. Selah is a Biblical word, stuck in the past. We're talking about the future here!"

"...What do you have in mind? I really don't want to touch on the family, Elon, but this needs to be palatable for the residents, they have a history and by every measure at least some sense of pride."

"Mother Hive Amestris-א0"

...

Who can question a visionary?

"We'll talk about it later, we can probably get the city council onboard and maybe they'll have some ideas. For now let's get back to the plant..."

Player	Votes
Dwlee99 (6)	Fey (1569), VP Baltar (1571), Lukewarm (1577), Enchant (1587), fireisredsir (1590), Kovu (1641)
Dunnstral (5)	gorilla (1175), Gammagooey (1391), SirCakez (1600), Meuh (1631), Dwlee99 (1644)
gorilla (2)	Dunnstral (1296), Rhyme and Reason (1301)
SirCakez (1)	Val89 (1196)
Gammagooey (1)	marcistar (1239)
Meuh (1)	Malakittens (1445)
Not Voting (1)	Bell (1468)

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to eliminate.

No elimination has been achieved. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2022-06-12 15:30:00).

Spoiler: Postcount Tracker

Player	Daystart postcount	Reserves
Bell	115	10
Fey	38	10
fireisredsir	89	10
Malakittens	5	10
Lukewarm	119	10
Dunnstral	26	10
Rhyme and Reason	28	10
Meuh	80	10
Val89	28	10
marcistar	57	10
Dwlee99	21	10
Gammagooey	26	10
Kovu	98	10
VP Baltar	120	10
Enchant	27	10
SirCakez	64	10
gorilla	58	10

Posts are capped at 125 posts per slot per dayphase. Please see the Ruleset and FAQ for more information and tips on tracking your postcount.

Vote Count 2.7

FLAVOR

"Cyber Rodeo was good, great, but we can do even better. For Selah, we've got to do it bigger. Cyber Rodeo was a landmark for Tesla and for Austin, but the true founding of Mother Hive Amestris-א0 will be a celebration for all mankind."

"Well Elon, that would be nice but right now it's just a bunch of rocks. I'd also prefer to lay low for a bit after the last Cybertruck debacle. That's already thrown off our plans for the Selah Gigafactory, since we've already delayed the manufacturing of that model."

"Rocks...and sand. Sand growth. You'd be surprised at what grows in sand. Anyway, have our people start working on a new festival. You know how these productions work, complementary pieces to our efforts, not inconvenient luxuries. Same themes as always, marketing knows what I like...I shouldn't even have to say who the headliner would be, right?"

"We'll see if he's available, and if not be sure to pay him until he is."

Player	Votes
marcistar (7)	Malakittens (2108), Kovu (2160), Meuh (2187), SirCakez (2188), fireisredsir (2189), Gammagooey (2193), VP Baltar (2197)
Dwlee99 (3)	Fey (1569), Enchant (1587), Lukewarm (1914)
gorilla (2)	Dunnstral (1296), Rhyme and Reason (1301)
VP Baltar (2)	Dwlee99 (1924), Val89 (2150)
Gammagooey (1)	marcistar (1239)
SirCakez (1)	Bell (1906)
Dunnstral (1)	gorilla (2135)
Not Voting (0)

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to eliminate.

No elimination has been achieved. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2022-06-12 15:30:00).

Spoiler: Postcount Tracker

Player	Daystart postcount	Reserves
Bell	115	10
Fey	38	10
fireisredsir	89	10
Malakittens	5	10
Lukewarm	119	10
Dunnstral	26	10
Rhyme and Reason	28	10
Meuh	80	10
Val89	28	10
marcistar	57	10
Dwlee99	21	10
Gammagooey	26	10
Kovu	98	10
VP Baltar	120	10
Enchant	27	10
SirCakez	64	10
gorilla	58	10

Posts are capped at 125 posts per slot per dayphase. Please see the Ruleset and FAQ for more information and tips on tracking your postcount.

she basically doesn't even acknowledge the dunn wagon on d2

[Fey]

dueling lavar/marci wagons again let's goo!!!

VOTE: marci

idk if lavar is even a wagon anymore but they should be too

Also want to contextualize fire's day one voting.

Pittering around for a bit as wagons were going on, there's a spurt of three people that vote marci in a row. Fire, as previously having stated wanting dueling Lavar/marci wagons, jumps on (and they were voting Lavar earlier). Not the instigator, but happy to ride the wave.

oh HECK yeah let's go

VOTE: Lavar

Between that vote and here, fire says nothing directly about Marci. What was said prior was mostly small, softer defenses of marci (she's newer, so harder to read; the votes on her are opportunistic in places, etc, she's a little sus, but oh this was better...). A lot more of fire's suspicions in these wagons rested on Lavar, and so the second one is no surprise but now in the context of a scum-flipped marci ... yeah. Yeah.

Stoking the fires of dueling wagons but offroading onto Lavar who's more scummy somehow in the end. Again though, uh...

Fire didn't really do this without initiative, either. It feels like a very safe place for mafia to vote Lavar. It also doesn't really work towards the dueling wagon idea, either.

Lavar dies.

Fire then opens day two and like... none of the marci thoughts/suspicion is there. The info/weight put into dueling wagons is kind of just... wasted?