Mini 1094 - Mariposa Peak Mafia - Game Over!

[Powerrox93]

@Everyone:

I'm currently having problems with my internet at home and it might not work all the time.
And me being V/LA "Sometime late December" means limited access from the 25th/26th to new years eve(at latest).

Noted.

[Powerrox93]

Hello! Many new faces here

Vote Reckamonic

for voting on an awesome player

[Powerrox93]

I could also probably lynch Rhinox pretty happily.

Why should we do that?

[Powerrox93]

@Mod:

My internet has been fixed

And because last to post is not only pase' it's also totally ignoring the two larger wagons that were already rampaging around and I dislike players who try to slow down the exit of the RVS.
Why'd you feel a need to ask my reasoning on Rhinox and not really have any issues whatsoever with my primary suspicion reasoning on AGar which, though explained, was most assuredly flimsy?

I'm with Thor on this one. Questioning the reasoning of one but not the other, suspiciously selective.

Why do we have talk about every single player at the same time?

Unvote: Rhinox
Vote: AGar

because I know him IRL and he is SUPER SCUMMY.

Why random vote when we aren't in random anymore?

1: WOAH! Holy smokes, are you for real right now? Firstly, who said I was trying to continue the RVS? Reading into my posts a bit much, aren't you?

2: But then again, what's wrong with continuing RVS? We're only a few days in, my friend, and right now there is little to go on despite the nonsense that CC & SS are throwing around. Additionally, just "knowing" there's a serious conversation going on doesn't mean I should go around voting willy-nilly without thinking things through, no?

1: Clear scum overreaction
2: If we would random vote each other every day then we might as well random out who wins the game

Vote sims5487

What? That was hardly an overreaction. I think maybe you're the one overreacting, no?

^*Scummy self-contradiction*^

[Powerrox93]

Sorry mod

Unvote
Vote sims5487

[Powerrox93]

Your entire case against powerrox is that he ignored your initial vote against agar, but he questioned the rhinox one.

There is no indication of him paying any attention to agar...

Carrotcake brings up some important point.

Maybe I wasn't interested at all in AGar, maybe I was more interested in Rhinox by then.

[Powerrox93]

I note Powerrox93's signature and would like to remind everyone of rule #20:

20. Don't post elsewhere on mafiascum about this thread, and don't quote anything from the game in your signature until the game is over.

However, feel free to sig anything that does not have to do with game content itself. This is a public notice that I'm changing the rule to note that. I'm okay with his sigged quote, but be careful and be smart with it.

Sorry, I've must have missed that one *Removing it ASAP*

[Powerrox93]

Were you interested in Rhinox and not AGar or weren't you?¹ You're playing a weak semantics game and hiding behind a defense someone else provided you without even having the conviction to say whether or not you were or were not interested in AGar.²

1: After I've got the explanation of Rhinox then there was a large chance of me asking questions about AGar.
2: Well sorry because of the fact that I wasn't at home by the time CC posted that posts.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Thor665

[Powerrox93]

Why did you want the explanation on Rhinox first - you still haven't clarified this.

Because I haven't played with Rhinoxx before but I've played with AGar before. I've nothing to on when it comes to Rhinox, but at least some when it comes to AGar

[Powerrox93]

sorry, I forgot.

Claim: Serial Killer

Ok...
What do you wanna achieve with that?

[Powerrox93]

If he is the serial killer, then I suggest we do

not

kill him. Let the scum burn a nightkill to get rid of him.

Is it actually a good idea of doing so? I've never been in a game with an SK before, that's why I'm asking.

[Powerrox93]

@Mod

: Limited access update. I'm leaving my home the 26th of December. Still not sure how long time I'm away.

Gotchya.

[Powerrox93]

I still wants a response to this

sorry, I forgot.

Claim: Serial Killer

Ok...
What do you wanna achieve with that?

[Powerrox93]

Ok... ... ... But I'm not any smarter then I was before so
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Guderian

[Powerrox93]

Ok... ... ... But I'm not any smarter then I was before so
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Guderian

hmmm.

And that doesn't make you look any better at all.

[Powerrox93]

Thor never responded to my post 168 despite that he wanted the answer.

[Powerrox93]

Today has been a though day for me RL and tomorrow will probably be just as though due to final final tests in school and really long days.
Will try to read what I've missed tonight but if that doesn't happens something will come tomorrow.

[Powerrox93]

I only have time for a quick post now

I was kidding about claiming serial killer

Stop reading that post their.
I don't accept un-claims that easy.

Sims singer and power NEED TO PROMISE that tomorrow, If I am lynched, they will not support ANY lynch on any of the other two. The lynch will look tempting. It will seem to make sense. Its going to seem tempting. But unless there is a cop with a guilty, you ARE NOT to lynch among your little threesome. Day 3 and on, sure, but tomorrow, please dont. If any of you are attacked, you MUST defend each other. Otherwise town will almost definitely lose.

No way I'm making that kind of promise. What

if

, emphasizing if, someone of them is staring to look more scummier that you're now.

[Powerrox93]

Post 149, made by Power

Do we really have to deal with 'maybe' arguments ._.?¹
Anyway, if this was the case, why didn't you say so with your first reaction to the accusation? ¹

As for post 154 Why didn't you ask about the AGar 'suspicion' after Thor explained the reason behind the Rhinox 'suspicions'?¹ And what's your reason for voting Thor?²

1: The answer lies in post 168 (Has everyone forgotten that post?)
2: According to him (at least before) you're scum if someone else posted what you wanted to say when you didn't have access to a computer.

About post 287, what do you think were Gud's reasons for claiming SK?

To try to look townier by doing something a townie would never do.
Gud has claimed SK, he can't un-claim now.

[Powerrox93]

@Everyone

(Have already said this to DH)

:

I'm on LA 26-28 December

@BQ:

Happy with what I said?

Noted and thank you.

[Powerrox93]

You're all about to see something I've never done before, making a (sort-of) PBPA on the NK'd player (Rhinox in this case). I know I'm not the best person at doing this.

Some post are left out because I don't feel like they need to be commented
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2: Analyzing a situation in a townie way and puts pressure on Gud.
3: Response to Gud's response to the pressure.
4 + 5: Responding to Sims overreaction after Sims being criticized for making random votes when we were no longer in the RVS
7 + 9: Again analyzing a situation, this time on AGar's case on BQ, still townie but with more pressure. Really good arguments here but...

...I'm still waiting for BQ before deciding what to do from here.

[Powerrox93]

...
Considering he's dead, you don't really have to mention if his posts are scummy or townie...

I actually don't know why I did that analysis, it just felt like the right thing for me

NK speculation can be dangerous so early on, though...

Can you please expand this point a bit?

[Powerrox93]

@Mod:

Prod on Blood Queen? She(?) hasn't posted for awhile or is BQ V/LA

[Powerrox93]

I've seen NK speculation be very beneficial later on, when patterns have formed, and less people are around (i.e. the field is narrowed). It's just difficult to use the same logic after just one night. I'm not saying it can't be used (it might be an addendum to a case); I would just advise against it being a primary source of a case so early in the game.

Of course we shouldn't use only NK speculation in finding the scum

[Powerrox93]

In order to get some action in this game going
VOTE: Carrotcake

[Powerrox93]

BTW carrotcake is at L-2 now if my math is correct, so CC should IMO claim now

[Powerrox93]

I'm still wondering what the hell PR was thinking with the L-2 claim demand.

I thought it was SOP to claim when at L-2...

[Powerrox93]

...and Nachomamma8 is not going to follow up the answer to the question he asked to me...

[Powerrox93]

Five Day Deadline Extension Yes

[Powerrox93]

IGMEOY Nacho

. You wanted to know why I thought CC should claim and yet you ignore me.

[Powerrox93]

EBWODP: An "ok" from your side or similar thing would be acceptable

[Powerrox93]

@Mod:

I don't know many persons around here since I'm new but I've sigged that you need replacements. I'm active in some mish mash games


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Also, I think it's time for me to re-read this whole thread

[Powerrox93]

In order to give the replacements some time to catch up UNVOTE:

Hey mothrax, sorry for not saying this earlier

Hey Lateralus!

[Powerrox93]

I would like everyone to give me their top three suspects as I read through the thread.

It would be you (due to CC), AGar and Reckamonic

In order to give the replacements some time to catch up UNVOTE:

Hey mothrax, sorry for not saying this earlier

Hey Lateralus!

PIIIIIIIIING

You say whaaat?

[Powerrox93]

Everyone who hasn't said so:

Singer-scum, Yay or Nay?

Nay, but she isn't confirmed-town either from my eyes

Moth/Sera/powerrox:

Lat vs Agar for the lynch. Take a pick.

Lat, but I could accept an AGar lynch

[Powerrox93]

Is ANYONE else interested in switching?

No, I'm not. I'm either gonna vote for you or AGar

@mothrax: Why all then singersinger attention all in a sudden?

[Powerrox93]

@Those who switched to SS: Why the sudden switch?

[Powerrox93]

@Lateralus22: VOTE: AGar
L-1 here you got it.

[Powerrox93]

Yeah AGar, it would be best if you claimed now

[Powerrox93]

If this is a 3:9 set-up it now means we're at MyLo now (3:5 now, misslynch 3:4, NK 3:3)

@Mod:

Who did iamausername replace?

He replaced sims5487.

[Powerrox93]

What are everyone's thoughts on massclaiming today, then no lynching, then lynching tomorrow?

I'm ok with this.
No-Lynching at MyLo is good, I know that from personal experiences

[Powerrox93]

Okay, nevermind.

After further discussion with dramonic, we've decided that a massclaim today would tell the scum exactly who to kill. It's better to just end the day quickly with a no lynch and send them blindly into the dark.

Vote: No Lynch

Yeah, I could also wait with claiming at MyLo
VOTE: No Lynch

[Powerrox93]

Is their still someone who think we shouldn't massclaim today? Where are at LyLo now if this is an 3:9 set-up

[Powerrox93]

Claim: Jailkeeper

Targets
N1: Thor
N2: Reckamonic
N3: Lateralus

I chose them because I,

by the time each night startet

, emphasizing by the time the night started, where suspicious that they where scum and thereby should be roleblocked

Will read up what I've missed ASAP

[Powerrox93]

Breadcrumbing! I wouldn't do that! For me that's the same as talking with help of secret messages. Then there is this rule:

5. No secret messages using size tags or other trickery.

[Powerrox93]

If breadcrumbing doesn't count as talking in secret messages using size tags or other trickery, what does?

[Powerrox93]

If I would post a text that appears to just be random combination of letters/numbers/whatever, it would count as talking in secret message using some kind of trickery, but why is breadcrumbing fully allowed?! It is the very same thing!

[Powerrox93]

Wanna have a

REALLY

good explanation of why breadcumbing doesn't fall in under rule 5

[Powerrox93]

PR, why does breadcrumbing make you so angry...?

It's a pretty clear example of talking using trickery, and yet it's banned in the rules

[Powerrox93]

VOTE: Reckamonic

[Powerrox93]

UNVOTE:
Still huge fos

[Powerrox93]

Why are you scum for having an opinion no one else has?

[Powerrox93]

If you read my posts on page 27, you'll see that there is no post where I'm complaining about your breadcrumbling specifically but only breadcrumbling in general.

[Powerrox93]

Powerrox: mind expanding on those jailkeep targets of yours?¹ Why were you so driven on using it as a roleblock rather than as a protective role²? Also, why did you find each player scummy¹?

1: I said all that was needed to say when I claimed.
2.1: IDK how to play when you're a jailkeeper
2.2: IDK how to play as a protective role
2.3: The possibility that I could roleblock the one performing the NK is there

I'm interested to hearing Powerrox's response to you calling him scum. Hmm...

I'm confused. Lat claims Watcher that failed N3, and I claimed Jailkeeper targeting Lat N3, so how does that make me scum.

[Powerrox93]

Why all votes so suddenly?!

[Powerrox93]

I don't get a single thing of what's going on now. *Mega-mega-mega confused*

[Powerrox93]

hammer away

Not until I get an explanation of what's going on

[Powerrox93]

WTF just happened.?!!?!?!

[Powerrox93]

I've understand a whole 0% of what has happened after post 708

[Powerrox93]

in what might the least understandable discussion ever

I know what I'm gonna do tomorrow, if that day ever comes

[Powerrox93]

Preview Edit: what are you gonna do pr?

You'll have to wait and see

[Powerrox93]

Can someone please explain how all votes and discussion came up so suddenly during the last part of yesterday. Do it within the next 10 posts or I'll do what I said I planned to do in post 778

[Powerrox93]

1. I don't know what you're asking us to do...all you have to do is read the thread.

2. Making threats probably isn't the smartest thing to do right now.

3. Why didn't you use your jailkeep power on Lateralus last night when he was basically a confirmed watcher by the end of the day? Who

did

you jailkeep last night?

1: I've read that part of the thread so many times now and I still can't find out what made so many people's mind go from "Ok, we've lost the game" to "OMG we need to lynch this person right!!!!!111!!!!"

2: Making super-super-super-confusing moves isn't a smart thing to do at this stage either

3: No comment until I understand what happened yesterday.

[Powerrox93]

...it looks like I never gonna get an explanation of what happened yesterday. Still very confused...

[Powerrox93]

@Thor:
To quote myself

I've read that part of the thread so many times now and I still can't find out what made so many people's mind go from "Ok, we've lost the game" to "OMG we need to lynch this person right!!!!!111!!!!" so quickly

[Powerrox93]

I jailkeept thor.

[Powerrox93]

Powerrox, you should still contribute/give your thoughts, but don't vote yet.

And yet you have no complaints when others users are voting for someone. Hello scum!

Can you explain why you jailkept Thor as opposed to using it as a protective role to guard Lat?

I didn't know what I believed in after my mega-confusion from yesterday

[Powerrox93]

@Singer: Ok... Just sayin' that I'm more suspicious of recka then nacho ATM

@Mod: V/LA tomorrow

[Powerrox93]

I'd LOVE some more PR input.¹ We basically have to get everything out on the table now since, one of us will have to make the decision of who to chose tomorrow. All that he didn't get from yesterday is all fine and good because it consisted of one page of blah.² But other than that...he's been around the rest of the game...

1: On what?
2: You say WHAAAT?! Is it ok to not understand what happened? *Defiantly-don't-know-what-to-believe-in*

[Powerrox93]

1. I'd like your input on the other three, and who you think is scum based on their play in the game.

2. I'm saying it's not really hard to figure out that the last page before D4 ended was kind of a load of crap from Seraph, with the intermittent posts of Nacho and Reck putting on really stupid hats and following him. How do you feel about their play yesterday. Of the three left, who do you think is scum?

1 + 2. Reck is scum and after that it leans towards nacho


2. @Last part of yesterday: I'm confused over that there where so many half-randomish post so suddenly. Man, I couldn't even go away from the computer for a very short moment without seeing that X number of posts was posted. Only judging someone by the play during the last part of yesterday, everyone and no one is scum

[Powerrox93]

POWERROX WHY DIDN'T YOU USE YOUR JAILKEEP AS A PROTECTIVE ROLE FOR LATERALUS. UUUUUUHHHHHHHH.

I've already said that answer. Twice actually.

[Powerrox93]

We never had a PR is scum theory.

Post 658

"IMO, we need to lynch between Powerrox..."

So if I've never been scum in your eyes, why did you post that thing?

[Powerrox93]

Post 658

"IMO, we need to lynch between Powerrox..."

So if I've never been scum in your eyes, why did you post that thing?

Depending on recka'monic's answer, I might vote for them in the next post.

[Powerrox93]

After the answer, I'm very confident that Recka is scum

VOTE: Reckamonic

[Powerrox93]

UNVOTE:
RECK is still scum

[Powerrox93]

Currently limited to my mobile phone


It's a pretty huge gap between "We need to lynch PR" AND "we've never said that PR is scum"
Town would never do that

[Powerrox93]

JK'ing RECK tonight

[Powerrox93]

Day started and game ended while I was sleeping... *Sad Face* *Cries*

Good game anyway

[Powerrox93]

Funny fact: The discussion about breadcrumbling (No more talk on that please) came up while I was baking bread.

[Powerrox93]

Pumpernickel?

No, White bread

[Powerrox93]

Pumpernickel?

shhh with talk about breadcrumbing

I think he was interested in knowing which kind of bread I baked

[Powerrox93]

@DH: You did a good job in your modding debut.
Although scum could have another PR.
And /barn xRECKONERx on JK in endgame might be to powerful

[Powerrox93]

@DH: Yeah it's hard to compensate for the human factor.