NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: Rift Adrift

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: TIP

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Sorry I forgot to subscribe to this shitttttt 21 pages

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Here it is... we all pick four names and post them. The name that appears the most frequently is the person that get a wagon run up and we go from there. Mkay?

We should probably lynch:

KingCrabd
Orcinus
DOMO
Shadi

This is so crazy it must be town.

Has anybody played with this guy before

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Also Zdenek is totes right I am obviously scum.

VOTE: BROseidon

Okay. /sarcasm off.

VOTE: ProHawk

Also like TiP for town.

pedit:k

This looks forced.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Scum suspect #2 is BROseidan for making a town read on page 2.

can you tell me how this is scummy and how this doesn't work in reverse?

Because in the beginning of the game a good town is supposed to be suspicious of everyone. It should take more than 2 pages of fluff/RVS for you to determine that someone is a townie.

Scumhunting, on the other hand, is always encouraged.

Lol this again.

I sort of like Stevie for this post despite his, y'know, wrongness.

also let me tell everyone right now that i don't intend to write a colossal amount explaining why i'm town and why the person i'm voting is mafia. just trust me, i'm usually right.

Is BSG your only town game on site, if so, no no no to this.

It's okay Nero actually does not troll as hard as one would expect as town.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Calcifer is town.
BROseidon is scum.
Nero is town.
TheIrishPope is town, but bad town.
KingCrabd is town.
Zdenek is town.

Why? Why is the distinction between town and bad town necessary?

Is this mastin posting because this is a dumb question

[orcinus_theoriginal]

there was something else that caught my eye on a brief skin of the 8 pages:

Nulls:
Orc (not enough posts yet)
Everyone Else because it’s like page 6 and several people only have RVS posts.

Krab person (cabd?) - why did you feel the need to seperate orc for not having enough posts from everyone else who don't have enough posts? I found this kinda bizarre behaviour.

It's weird to see him NOT super hyperactive, after seeing his play in other games. I felt it needed more distinction, hence "not enough posts yet", because orci usually has walls up by now.

This is true and it is why I don't have a read for him yet. He and I are a hydra in another game, so I know his slow start in this game has RL reasons. Otherwise I'd probably be freaking out about how quiet he is in this game.

I forgot to subscribe >.<

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh yeah by the way

BRO is hard town

Then after that, I like Varsoon v2.0 Stevie

Those are my two strongest town reads so far, I'm still on page 10.

King: You said that it was weird how I wasn't posting much. So were you nullreading or scumreading me at that time
Rift Adrift: Talk to me about TIP

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Nero: Do you have any reads right now

[orcinus_theoriginal]

are you gonna quit being a condescending prat and actually fucking do something?

not today?

I didn't think it was possible to exceed Nero's level of uselessness.

shut the fuck up and quit with your ironic shit posting you spherical bastard.

You're probably town again.

Okay cool. Can I get like a list or something to work with

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Actually..I have a fun way to speed up this phase..

I am scum. Discuss.

We aren't fucking in RVS anymore who are you.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Town: Calcifer, Steve, TMT, Nero, TIP, truly14(and his replacement), Brian Hollywood

Null: Whoever isn't on Town or Scum

Scum: Doc, Zdenek, DOMO, Mac, TSO, Goat

Nacho my love, I am here to banish your cares and fears, speak to me

Whoops, found it.

Are these synchronized reads? Because Fery doesn't get this many reads this early.

And I think you're wrong on doc

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Okay, first of all, you fucks need to stop posting so goddamn fast and furious. TIP, Mastin, and Rift Adrift, I'm looking at you. Between the three of you, you have almost half of all the posts in the thread.

Second, lol at anyone and everyone talking about 'lurkers,' people 'avoiding the thread,' and suspicion leveled against those who haven't posted yet. TIP is massively guilty of this. The game is SEVEN HOURS OLD. Some of us have jobs, and have been at work literally the entire span of the game so far. Chill.

Alright. I'm exhausted from a ten-hour work day, and have mostly skimmed from my phone on breaks. ProHawk's idea was dumb enough that I defaulted to thinking it was TIP's, Mastin is playing Townish but spastic, TIP reads scummy all the time, Nero is leaning weak scum (seems too eager to label strong reads,) Shadi hasn't become wildly anti-Town yet, nullish on everyone else.

Unvote
Vote: TIP

Combination suspicion and PL

PE: omfg people, STOP with the crap filler posts. We're in the middle of page 6 in a 24 player game sevenish hours old. Unless you ACTUALLY WANT mass flaking, stop posting unless you have something real to say for chrissake

@TSO: The only blind vote I've made was my RVS vote. My reasoning on Nero has been clearly stated, and he gets scummier with every post.

If you're not going to read the thread, don't pretend. You make a half-assed case against one person that is just chock full of misrepresentation (saying that I'm discouraging posting is a blatant falsehood, I was asking for MORE content, less crap) is just lazy

Went ahead and took an ISO again. I liked the first post, reminded me a bit of SafetyDance and all of those other people who tell you and I to post less, and I think that's townie because it shows they have genuine willingness to keep up with the thread. But then I realized that there was a difference here, in that Doc isn't actually showing the committment SD has. I would've expected a stronger rebuttal in the second post from a town Doc.

Oh hey Town crab

Almost identical reads and reasoning, too long a post to have been anything other than written simultaneously. This guy is

thinking

, and that's Towny

I like this post for town though.

I've had a very busy weekend, and have only managed a quick skim so far. I'll catch up fully some time this evening, but two things stuck out to me.

First, Nero's gleeful seizing of any excuse to undercut his detractors and avoid explaining his reads solidifies my scum read on him. He's done absolutely everything he can this game to mock, misrepresent, and push wagons on people without providing even the barest of case on them. That's classic scum.

Second, what the fuck is this?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

How does a Town game support your suspicion against me?

Expected reaction to playing with Nero. When people make posts like I expect them to, I typically town read them.

Tell me why you're scumreading him.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: Shadi

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Ignore what I said about BRO being hard town, I wasn't looking at time stamps.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah, might be scum, but to be honest I'd be more worried about

VOTE: Zdenek

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Are you normally this cautious with your vote (I'm assuming rev)?

Because you should just vote with me right now, get things shaking

[orcinus_theoriginal]

so why did you react negatively to zdenek's posts but was okay with my recent two votes

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why do you think I'm voting you?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah but I didn't have to catch up

I hate catching up

I get shit reads if it's not in real time.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

did you not go to sleep and wake up to find that 20 pages just appeared spontaneously?

or were you at it every hour so you didn't have to catch up on much

I never had to catch up on more than 4 pages at a time in xenoblade, I think. V/LA excluded, but the part that I missed due to VLA I just never caught up on.

VOTE: Shadi

Nah. Shadi is playing his town game, orci. His backing down when interacting with prohawk rings so much town.

Maybe. Take a look at these posts: 127, 155, 202, 260. I'll reserve my opinion for a bit, but those posts jumped out

Why do you think I'm voting you?

No idea, it's why I'm asking you.

I want you to guess

[orcinus_theoriginal]

@Stevie: BRO is probably pretty scum, jsyk

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why's that?

Do you find my read peculiar or disagreeable? What's your read on BRO?

Fery, you haven't town read me yet.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Can we just policy lynch Nero?

stop participating

Are you talking to me?

im talking to the 16 year old bachelor still living with his dad. no further comments.

Ok scum nero. Your wish is my command. Mod/s please replace me and sorry.

Unless you're also a 16 year old bachelor living with your dad I fail to recognise how you could possibly imagine I was talking to you.

Personally, I think this is masterful, just because of how

stupidly obvious

this was coming to Truly.

DOMO: BRO is the more likely scum between he and doc, we're going with him today.

I'm going to also call Stubbs scum.

Pedit: That is not a good reason to be town-reading fery. I also don't really think sharing fery-meta at this point in time is conducive to my efforts to ascertain her alignment.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why's that?

Do you find my read peculiar or disagreeable? What's your read on BRO?

Fery, you haven't town read me yet.

I told Syr it was self evident last night.

BTW he <3ed your Zdenek vote.

ok cool

But can you promise me you guys take a look at BRO

Pedit: ongoing game?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Thanks.

But since we're on the subject I'm a bit surprised I'm still being townread so easily despite said game.

Should I be a bit worried

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Upon reading that paragraph a third time, I don't think your reasoning as terribly bad as I originally thought

Talk to me about stubbs

Pedit: hnnnnnnnnnnnng

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Also Zdenek is totes right I am obviously scum.

VOTE: BROseidon

Okay. /sarcasm off.

VOTE: ProHawk

Like I said this seems forced

Why can't Varsoon be in this game his shitty reaction tests are hilarious. Then again, we already have a village idiot.

Guys can we not vote TiP he's just our village idiot.

This also seems forced

BRO might be insightful Town or bussing scum.

Who would I be bussing if I were scum?

This might just be an idealistic difference but why would you be talking to someone who you think is a VI

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Could everyone just vote Stevie. Guy's flipping scum.

What happened to your tunnel on me? Do you think that Stevie and I could be scum together?

Is Majiffy/Buldey in here? Good I'm using bold. The second question is stupid here.

It's likely this is from a difference in site meta as opposed to any sort of real scum motivation. Do you really think that he thinks he can suddenly convince us to drop townreads forever? No.

I didn't realize that Stevie was coming from another site. Will reevaluate him with this in mind.

Why should this change anything

I mean, I agree that the plan was terrible (which I've already said a couple times), but this explanation of it is just plain bad. The part directly before it WOULD set up a connection, since scum trying hard enough to set up a specific townie being wagoned first can bite them in the ass later. Naturally town are just going to put whoever the fuck they want in the list too, since there's literally no information outside of that plan's existence at all that would change the lists.

The connections would be invalid because scum can tailor them based on statistical blips in how town does shit. It creates WIFOM that is scum-controlled.

Yes it is an anti-town plan, but he's new. Remember what Varsoon's alignment is when he's cray-cray.

I can easily see scum doing this. I've done something similar in a recent scum game. I was the first wagon of the game and I self-voted because it was safer than responding normally; it has a higher chance of appearing scum in a reaction test.

Basically, scum paranoia.

Or me being sarcastic that nobody was actually presenting a case on me.

I feel like there a lot of more productive ways to respond to empty cases

Hola I'm still here.

Vote: TheIrishPope

Simply bc it sounded like a good idea at the time.

Post something useful.

ISO'd Ank. Don't see anything scummy and I don't get the wagon on him at all.

What do you think of Nacho and ffery's arguments?

Reread Steve with the consideration that he comes from another site meta and I don't like his reaction to pressure. His response has been OMGUS and a bunch of weak posts. His scumhunting is weak.

Okay how the hell is this 'other site' info factoring into your reads

Nero is irking me but I don't think he's scum. He's in the null-town range for me. TSO's case is shit, but I feel like it's null unless one of the people who was under pressure when he posted it (letters, stevie, or nero) flip scum, in which case I'll definitely want to pressure TSO. Also, TSO has done jack for providing anything except for his case. Like Zdenek's response to TSO's case.

At least you're right on Nero.

Ank's case on me is shit but the shit case and tunneling is null. At least he's trying to scumhunt despite being under pressure, which is more than can be said for Stevie.

Why is a shit case null, to you

I am scum. Discuss.

Varsoon is not in this game can we please not have shitty reaction tests.

Pft

I knew I was going to need this.
Daykill: Brian Hollywood

Guys can we not all try to be Varsoon kthx. Seriously shitty reaction tests do jack shit.

Pft. You've fluff-posted, and now you're hating on others for doing the same?

Rev if I am your top scumread why not put a vote there until your other head gets back? It's not like I'm at risk of getting hammered anyways.

That Doc was not able to see the relevance of Nacho's link immediately is disconcerting, although his response is a decent defense. However, I don't like how his response to pressure is to keep tunneling one player instead of just massflailing like a good townie.

Why is tunneling scum, I /never/ understood this. And I dont really think this game has been going on long enough for 'tunneling' to be clear yet. I really think it's one of the words that, like OMGUS, are insanely overused.

@Doc DO YOU HAVE OTHER GAMES I WANT TO READ THEM IF YOU DO KTHX.

Still like the Stevie wagon slightly more, but am very close to jumping onto Doc.

ew.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh yeah, most of the times it's obvious, but for the times that it isn't I need Mastin and Nacho to sign their posts please thanks

I can't tell the two of you apart :/

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Whoa, did anyone else catch Ankamius' shameless buddying/self-meta/calling-self-Town bit in 328? I wasn't sold on Ankamius as scum before, but that's definitely shifting my opinion in that direction

No.

No.

This is a bad post and be ashamed. Testing the waters + throwing out a scumread for entirely a fabricated reason

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Looking at stubss' ISO, I can see him being scum with BRO and/or doc based on #383. Plus he's townreading doc and stevie to justify being on the nero wagon.

In fact fuck this, BRO, doc, stevie and stubbs are all scum. You heard it here first. God I hope scum are actually playing that transparent lol.

You got 3/4

You're wrong on Stevie.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

A dram PL I would also not be opposed to

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why are you calling me scum in this roundabout way

Why not just man up to your accusation

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm not saying you're scum, but you definitely dropped a town point or two. Why do you want to PL dram?
.

Because I don't think I could read him.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I can't read him at the moment, but I don't want to kill him off for that alone. I prefer to lynch people I'm reading as scum.

okay but let's be honest is anybody going to be able to read dramonic at all

I wanted to policy lynch lurker in BSG for the same reason. Dramonic is not getting night killed. He is not going to be of any asset to town while alive. Keeping him alive is also not going to aid our read on him because we can't read him.

So we're going to lynch dramonic sooner or later, and since we gain more information and better reads (theoretically) by keeping your scumreads around for one extra day, I would suggest that the optimum move right now is to policy dramonic.

what do you think

[orcinus_theoriginal]

hi ms

have i said anything that you find interesting

[orcinus_theoriginal]

DON'T TALK ABOUT ONGOING GAMES UGERNJDVEIRBGNDVNSDV
like seriously

VOTE: TIP

good night

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I dunno if TIP is scum or not

I want to policy lynch dramonic, not TIP. Talk to me about that fery.

Why do

you

think I am scumreading you, Stubbs?

Nero is definitely town. I meta'd him to death for BSG. He's town. Don't touch him.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

GREAT KARMIC VIBRATIONS

dramonic
BROseidon
Mac
Zdenek

No.

Explain these. If you're going to toss out a readlist I'll be asking for explanation.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Original Orc, I really don't get what you mean by saying some of Bro's posts seemed forced.

Please explain.

I don't think they sound natural.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Hi ProHawk you are voting BROseidon which makes you a good person

Can you quote his alleged reaction and tell me why you don't like it

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Can you guys tell the reasons for your 3-4 strongest reads?

Can you stop being so freaking obvscum

Like you are pressuring people about their reads in this shitty general manner that does nothing but try (unsuccessfully) to look like you are doing something, while having basically /no reads of your own/.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I dunno if TIP is scum or not

I want to policy lynch dramonic, not TIP. Talk to me about that fery.

Why do

you

think I am scumreading you, Stubbs?

Nero is definitely town. I meta'd him to death for BSG. He's town. Don't touch him.

I'm not you, therefore I don't know. Why not just answer?

Can't you guess

It gives you towncred

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Town:
Ankamius
Baby Spice
Brian Hollywood
BROseidon
dramonic
Rift Adrift
Nero
Calcifer
TheIrishPope
KingCrabd
ProHawk
Metal Sonic
orcinus_theoriginal
DOMO
StubbsKVM


Maybe scum:
Serene (hydra) truly14
The Goat
BulbaFenix
T S O

Scum:
Doc Holliday
StevieT92
TMTOLBTWNTOF
Shadi1337

dude you are trying SO HARD to look town right now

This man here is town

Do not touch him

Or you will have to answer to me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: calcifer

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: Shadi

We're done for today. Lynch his face lol

Reaction testing is a bullshit excuse. I've always held that if you can't tell me what you've learned through your reaction test, it's not a reaction test, it's just a scummy thing that you did that you're trying to wiggle out of.

Stubbs hi want to bus your buddy for me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And of course you note that I scumread you within like 30 minutes of starting to read up in the game

so

Unsuccessfully, yes.

You've let your scumbuds down

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why do you think I'm voting you?

If you were really reaction testing, this was your chance to own up to you. You would've noticed that I was scumreading you. In response, however, you said

I don't know

Yeah bullshit. If you were reaction testing then you would've known what it was that you were doing that I found scummy.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

so you're not giving reads, while giving reads in the quoted posts. Your posts are contradicting.

what 'reads' are you seeing

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Might be a hydra effect but I think this is nacho's scum game

And you know how I read hydras

[orcinus_theoriginal]

just trust me here

shadi is so scum i can't be bothered to build a full case on him, my strongest scumread

he's

that

scum.

Pedit: 13, not talking to me, mostly throwing out reads with limited (imo) interaction, at least different from the other games we've played, and 689

[orcinus_theoriginal]

appeal to fear

except i'm a cocky bitch

try a different route

[orcinus_theoriginal]

The Shadi wagon is a shoddy contraption built on lies and weakness to deflect us from the path to peace.

Your mother never loved you

[orcinus_theoriginal]

mockingbirds fart in your direction

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Dear Orci: Your read on Shadi is wrong

Sincerely, Cabd

No but seriously, this is his town meta, my goodness. It’s blindingly obvious. Go metadive him.

no

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Dear Orci: Your read on Shadi is wrong

Sincerely, Cabd

No but seriously, this is his town meta, my goodness. It’s blindingly obvious. Go metadive him.

no

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm tired of trying to explain and no-one is backing me up. No point in continuing a lost cause, I suppose

see this here

this is scum too

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yes we have

And Shadi's wall is ass

[orcinus_theoriginal]

What 'fishy wagons'

Shadi: hi a decently sized part of the problem I had with your wall was that your so called conclusions ended up just sheeping what the majority opinion on those people. Like uh. Dramonic.

I also know I definitely asked you for your read on me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm not telling you how to act town

Why the fuck would I.


Give me your read on me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

No I mean let me jus stress that because that is so stupid

I am NOT going to tell you how to act townie in my eyes
I am NOT going to tell you what I am looking for in your lists

I am trying to find out what your alignment is. Giving you help on how to act town would be completely counterproductive.

Your wall concerning dram is ass because its regurgitated reasoning and conclusions disguised in a pile of nothing

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm looking for your thought process

Now give me your read on me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

@Orcinus

What do you think of BulbaFenix?

Are you ignoring my opinion of Shadi's alignment?

Not really thinking about them right now

And no I'm not ignoring it, and if you'd like I'll acknowledge its existence right now

[orcinus_theoriginal]

BRO is town nvm

It might be my suspectibility to flattery but I don't think he would give such strong town reads as scum

I think I understand my hydra partner's thought process enough to let her do her own thing. I'll figure out her alignment eventually.

I'm getting sick of serene. I asked you to give me reasons for your read on dramonic and mac. Listen, if you're not going to give me your hydra names, then you fucking need to give me reasons on your reads because it is currently impossible for me to read you.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

This is not even remotely interaction, orcinus.

I think I understand my hydra partner's thought process

enough to let her do her own thing

. I'll figure out her alignment eventually.

Bolded part means that I don't have a lot of interaction planned with you.

Why is something worrying you

[orcinus_theoriginal]

by watching what you do

i know how you work so

[orcinus_theoriginal]

bulba and orc

if you keep asking me to explain my scum read

, youre gonna keep getting the same answer:

its a gut read based mostly on Macs replace out. i never pretended it was more than that, but the fact that bulba acts like i put together some huge case that he deftly refuted is flat out wrong. its a gut feeling and i never said otherwise.

if you continue to ask the same questions over and over, i will kill myself out of spite. i will bequeath my ashes to your loved ones who secretly hate you. these unholy warriors in my service will put these ashes in your food one day. i will return to life, absorbing myself into your bloodstreams, slowly invading your consciousness with my essence. you will become walking puppets, avatars of my annoyance at you. I will turn you into a conduit for my hate, using your meat temple as a vessel through which my anger will alienate everything you ever loved. i will ensure your bodies are elected to high officees. i will use that power to oppress your fellow citizenns and start senseless wars. when the smoking ruins odf these civilizations settle to dust, your names will be recorded in history as the most horrific war criminals in humankind's days


and no im not kuribo. but i hear that guys awesome.

if i were, then think of this hydra as court ordered anger management with head #1 Being our therapist.

I'm getting sick of serene. I asked you to give me reasons for

your read on dramonic and mac

.

you are really annoying me right now

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: serene

Have i told you what a god awful player you are even on a good day

try harder

VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

GREAT KARMIC VIBRATIONS

orcinus_theoriginal

How cute. Bulba starts calling us scum after the site deleted our post where i referred to him as scum.

VOTE: serene

bulba stevie are scum maybe with orc

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

your hop onto a pointless bandwagon is either scummy as fuck or batshit bad town play

I hate this so much.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

you and them continue to fucking push "explain" WHEN I FUCKING HAVE


MANY


FUCKING TIMES

I'm getting sick of serene. I asked you to give me reasons for your read on

dramonic

and mac.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Its opportunistic you damn right because they knpw i didnt bother reading the game

head 1 thinks bulbafeel is town but i disagree

VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And you god damn right your

chainsaw attack

on me after bulba and feenixs overreaction to a MANY FUCKING TIMES EXPLAINED gut scumread looks scummy

VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

you and them continue to fucking push "explain"

WHEN I FUCKING HAVE


MANY


FUCKING TIMES[

/quote]

I'm getting sick of serene. I asked you to give me reasons for your read on

dramonic

and mac.

yes tell me about how you gave copious reasons for dramonic before i questioned you

you should jump from your ego to your iq

you would die

[orcinus_theoriginal]

so you didn't "ALREADY FUCKING EXPLAINED MANY TIMES, ORCINUS DIPWAD", did you

VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

The mac read, you disingenous fucking thing


was explained many times despite bulba constantly asking for it over and over like the fucking riddler

given that I originally asked your OTHER head (y'know, the head that listed mac as town) for reasons for dram/mac/bro/zdenek town

i obviously wasn't interested in your head's opinion

but you were fun to play with

Im fucking off for the day

you idiots actually have my nose bleeding

I would call you a cunt, but that would imply I had some use for you

VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

GREAT KARMIC VIBRATIONS

dramonic
BROseidon
Mac
Zdenek

No.

Explain these.

here it is!

[orcinus_theoriginal]

if you guys get yourselves forced replaced I'll be seriously pissed.

quick.

lynch serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

No.

he's not town, though

[orcinus_theoriginal]

No.

he's not town, though

I didn't like the way bulba went after them.

so they're town because somebody made attacked them in a bad way?

come on

[orcinus_theoriginal]

that reasoning works for micros

not so solid for large games

[orcinus_theoriginal]

and especially not on day 1

i thought you didn't do associations this early anyways

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah that line of thought I think I actually explained to you a while back. But it doesn't work for day 1 of a large game.

How can I help you arrive at a genuine scum read on the slot

Yes but kuribo-head is not town. Look at the inconsistencies beneath his 'anger' (which i was quite frankly unimpressed by)

[orcinus_theoriginal]

cool

it's kuribo. i've been googling some phrases he's used on MS and the one username that keeps popping up is kuribo

just goes to show how original he is

room temperature IQ

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah that line of thought I think I actually explained to you a while back. But it doesn't work for day 1 of a large game.

How can I help you arrive at a genuine scum read on the slot

Yes but kuribo-head is not town. Look at the inconsistencies beneath his 'anger' (which i was quite frankly unimpressed by)

let's see them, orcinus

if you've been reading you already have

who trhe fuck is kuribo and what if he is?

opens possibility to meta analysis

cool

it's kuribo. i've been googling some phrases he's used on MS and the one username that keeps popping up is kuribo

just goes to show how original he is

room temperature IQ

There is a phrase we've been looking for that we haven't seen.

"Congratufuckinglations"
"fucking war" "come on fucker" (goonies)
"rope", grey ice, "scum fuck" (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4777464)

i mean i could go on here

(there are surprisingly few hits for some of these phrases)

[orcinus_theoriginal]

oh yes and "disingenuous"

nose bleed (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4775341)

phone with small screen

literally nothing that comes out of his whore mouth is original

he could be recycling posts and some people would literally never know

[orcinus_theoriginal]

oh hey

it's kuribo shitposting

sorry, that's redundant. it's kuribo, is what i meant to say


VOTE: serene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: baby spice

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i am voting people who i think are scum

[orcinus_theoriginal]

UNVOTE:

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Just because you disagree with the way someone uses a vote does not make that scummy

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Town blocks are hard, let's go shopping

How do you like a townblock of me/you/Calcifer/Orc/Bulba/TIP/Zdenek/Nero/MS, assuming we can get everyone in that group to agree? Order is relative strength of reads from most to least, with the first four all being roughly equal.

and when the flip did you start town reading zdenek

[orcinus_theoriginal]

From my experience, scum are careful with their votes. Voting hesitance I have found to be in close correlation with scum.

what experience have you had with town blocs

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Tell me what you think of bulba

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why does your head say scum

[orcinus_theoriginal]

It's true that Fenix is not as independent as I'd like and acts more like a subordinate than an equal in the hydra. It's something that we're working on. However, I do not like that your first action when confronting us is to attack the

weak link.

I would not want to hydra with you

Ever

[orcinus_theoriginal]

so why are you only now questioning me on my unvote

[orcinus_theoriginal]

well in the eyes of prohawk you should've voted your other scumreads

[orcinus_theoriginal]

and theres so much dissonance and excuses to be on the fence on about a 100 people its not even funny

but then again I'm the head that hasn't read the entire thread.

So you're dodging my questions, avoiding giving actual analysis, and trying to discredit my points. Remind me why you're not scum again?

Because, and I can't stress this enough


I HAVENT READ THE FUCKING GAME YOU SCUM FUCK

head 1 thinks bulbafeel is town but i disagree

It crushes my holy soul to type these words, for all the misery and sadness that this entails, but orcinus was town, is town, and will be town.

there is no fuckin way that thing is town

[orcinus_theoriginal]

"you are ignoring person X in a 24 player game"

jesus fucking god you have no case on bulba

me, sorry

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Nero is scum. He is not posting walls to harass us to lynch 7 townies in a row. He is tunneling on just one player, and hasn't yet produced a fake guilty on that player. He is insincere and therefore scum.

The bowl of Alpha-Bits player is also scum but we all know that, there is however a curse on voting him that might lead to the earth being sucked into a wormhole straight into another dimension.

nero is town

i will stake your life on it

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Tell me, what makes us so scummy to you??

Your opportunism in attacking what you viewed as a vulnerable head (an accusation you later went on to attack someone else with after doing this yourself)

What the fuck. This is so stupid. You mean, "One of my heads was acting scummy and dipshitty, so it is opportunistic to attack him". Maybe we should all go after obvtown players. Yes.

Your constant "POST READS NOW READS NOW READS NOW THOSE AREN'T READS READS NOW" while ignoring other players who have done jack and or shit

"Ignoring player X in a 24 player game UNACCEPTABLE."
And I view him to be fairly new so maybe he doesn't know what else to do

Your endless "ohhh you just wait till bulba sees this" fuck you and your bulba

If you're accusing him of hydra dissonance you are the most hypocritical bitch I've ever seen

Accusing people of posting fluff while again ignoring people who do the same

Jesus christ it's a 24 player game

Your attempt to use the meta of a player who ISN'T EVEN IN THE FUCKING GAME to justify your anything ("I've seen kuribo as town and" no fuck you)

are you really resorting to this.

and thats just off the top of my head really



when you get to hell, tell them you're not quite fucking sure if kuribo sent you

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i know


we should hang out


talk to me baby

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orc, regardless of the number of players, he has been very selective in who you make certain accusations toward. This does not indicate scum hunting.

"Very selective"?

What the fuck does this even mean. Bulba has addressed more people than I have probably.

I'm not accusing him of hydra dissonance. I'm saying that he continually has made threats that OH JUST YOU WAIT TILL BULBA SEES THIS. Yet when I responded in kind (I really fucking hate when people threaten me) it was all "oooooh why are you raging" don't start shit you can't finish and we'll get along better.

You're accusing someone else of making threats and calling that scummy? cute

"Really resorting to this?" Fine. From here on I will play with you by expecting you to adhere to another player's meta. Maybe Tierce.

See, you're fucking grasping at straws. Everybody knows you're kuribo. Assuming you are kuribo and using meta for kuribo IS NOT FUCKING SCUMMY

Your play thus far: C-

[orcinus_theoriginal]

[quote="In post 1385

And you yourself have done plenty of it with you Majiffy-esque vote spam. The Tierce I know and love would never do that as town.[/quote]
is this deliberate stupidity or genuine stupidity

i'm having a hard time distinguishing

[orcinus_theoriginal]

you know what scares me

of all the sperm your dad ejaculated

you were actually the smartest & fastest

or was your mom's egg just so nasty that everyone else didn't want to go for it

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm getting sick of serene. I asked you to give me reasons for your read on dramonic and mac. Listen, if you're not going to give me your hydra names, then you fucking need to give me reasons on your reads because it is currently impossible for me to read you.

cool

it's kuribo. i've been googling some phrases he's used on MS and the one username that keeps popping up is kuribo

just goes to show how original he is

room temperature IQ

"Congratufuckinglations"
"fucking war" "come on fucker" (goonies)
"rope", grey ice, "scum fuck" (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4777464)

i mean i could go on here

(there are surprisingly few hits for some of these phrases)

oh yes and "disingenuous"

nose bleed (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4775341)

phone with small screen

literally nothing that comes out of his whore mouth is original

he could be recycling posts and some people would literally never know

[orcinus_theoriginal]

go find a fat eunuch with chicken pox and masturbate it

maybe you'll find love

tell me how i disregarded kuribo meta. i didn't scumread you because of your rage. i scumread you because of the bullshit reasoning behind your rage and head #1's insistence on not giving reasons for the reads i asked on

[orcinus_theoriginal]

you know what scares me

of all the sperm your dad ejaculated

you were actually the smartest & fastest

or was your mom's egg just so nasty that everyone else didn't want to go for it

What do you want from me man my parents were heroin addicts

did they drop you as a baby

[orcinus_theoriginal]

tell me who uses greyice as a point of reference/comparison as much as you do

[orcinus_theoriginal]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4949801

so tell me

why are you scumreading bulba now

why is threatening you with rage scum

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Lots of people have played with GreyICE

Including you

i cannot understand what you're saying

maybe there's too much sheep shit in your head

[orcinus_theoriginal]

If you don't want to play with dogs then stay on the fucking porch.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3408753

do you see what i mean

you are a fucking broken record

playing with you is literally so boring because everything you say is just repeated

do you actually lack the ability to say something original

for once

JUST ONCE

[orcinus_theoriginal]

If you don't want to play with dogs then stay on the fucking porch.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3408753

do you see what i mean

you are a fucking broken record

playing with you is literally so boring because everything you say is just repeated

do you actually lack the ability to say something original

for once

JUST ONCE

cool we've established that Serene is kuribo/pretending to be kuribo
how the hell is any of that alignment-relevant

i am voicing my disappointment

and because "i'm not kuribo" is a part of his shitcase on bulba

and because bulba is town

Pedit: i too think nacho is scum this game

[orcinus_theoriginal]

why don't we just get rid of calcifer

VOTE: calcifer

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i don't really have a read on TMT because it's quite possible he just sucks and i'm not good at reading those kinds of players

[orcinus_theoriginal]

why is bulba town and why does his shitcase matter when he's not really pushing it anymore?

[generic answer]

mostly because i haven't seen anything scummy

and because some people are starting to buy his case for some strange fucking reason?

serene, we can coexist for now i believe in this

[orcinus_theoriginal]

yeah actually i was wondering because some of your posts didn't seem like kuribo! (aside from the two i related to kuribo-posts ofc)

i'm glad that i can at least read hydra heads

that makes me feel better about my ability to read alignment

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orcinus have you played with Bulba before?

no

why

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Also maybe I speak in catch phrases because you are fun to antagonize and it helps me get a read on you

maybe my constant drops of serene votes on page 42ish and my abnormally rude demeanor have been helping me to ascertain your identity and help me get a read on you

I was wondering where your certainty he's town comes from.

I've played one completed game with him. My reasons for thinking he's scum are mostly not meta reasons. Syr thinks he's scum, too.

i'm not certain he's town

i just think the case on bulba-scum is retarded

vote nacho

[orcinus_theoriginal]

No.

i know our reads clash a lot in hydra

but this is getting ridiculous

talk to me about why you think bulba is scum

and nacho isn't

[orcinus_theoriginal]

No.

i know our reads clash a lot in hydra

but this is getting ridiculous

talk to me about why you think bulba is scum

and nacho isn't

In brief, I initially read Mac as town and wound up changing my mind in part due to Mac and in part due to Syr's thoughts. Bulba's early posts pinged hard. Their push on serene looked even worse than yours did.

Much like my read on you, my read on Calcifer (which is mostly based on Nacho) is a shaky slight town.

which posts by bulba

i was scumreading mac

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Nero can you please fake claim a guilty on TMTURIYTURIOF? We all know he's the Godfather. No one in this rat-infested temple can find their ballwzzz to take the most simple and obvious decision.

i'll do it after we lynch calcifer

bulb: calcifer is scum because nacho meta. mac is scum because he seemed very disinterested and quiet and useless which i typically associate with his scumplay. why do you even care why i was scumreading mac

[orcinus_theoriginal]

YOU CANNOT REACH ENLIGHTENMENT WITHOUT OPENING YOUR EYES

i feel like buddha achieved enlightenment through meditation

which i feel includes closing the eyes

i may be wrong

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I know he's got a lot to catch up on and will do so in time. I do expect a phone call and a catch up post from him today at SOME point.

jesus christ

fery we gotta learn from these people

they

call

each other

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Because asking questions is the only way to get answers about things. Also, Nacho meta? I'm not as well versed as my partner is where Nacho is concerned. Mind tl;dring me on that?

Nacho was obvtown by the second page whenever he enters the game as town

last time i had doubts about nacho I was correct

He is not giving me the town play i know and love

I've been stepping back and waiting for it to happen but it never did

Yes I fucking know that asking questions=getting answers. WHY do you want an answer? Are you being deliberately obtuse?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orc how do you call Mac scum and bulbafeenix town

town>scum because i am more sure about the bulba read how do you even have to ask this question

no, i have bulba as town, keep sucking the cock tho

pedit LET ME POST

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Rift, my concerns with orc are gone.

????????

Pedit: i like you cephrir. we should work together.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

????????

I can't explain things so well at the moment as you can probably guess.
But the basis of me being uncomfortable with you was your scumread on Serene and the manner you tunneled on them. It sucked a lot and I didn't like it because you were caught up in your stupid bullshit tunneling that didn't really make any sense anymore. I like your attack on me a lot more.

oh, good

glad to know that because i made an attack that you liked, that things that you found scummy are wiped from the board

do you usually do this?

i think not

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=200
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Vote: Cephrir

what the

[orcinus_theoriginal]

No, the difference between those games is your tone. You are more uncomfortable as town, which leads to your more rambly posts. As scum, you sound more decisive and you throw your weight around more.

STOP.

WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THIS UP NOW

INSTEAD OF LATER

CHRIST

[orcinus_theoriginal]

calcifer goes before TMT

1520 I agree with completely

Serene, can we talk about fery

[orcinus_theoriginal]

no i'm going to ignore you

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah. I may be a luddite for leaving Cephrir in my willing to lynch pile right now, but his catch up posts aren't giving me unadulterated warm fuzzies.

so your distrust of cephrir starts here, not sure why, i liked them.

Rift: Nulltown, haven't pinged me at all or wowed me like ffery did in Amnesiac.

I wowed you in amnesiac? I was only around for a day. IIRC I wound up with 5 or 6 votes on me at one point, including yours.

this doesn't seem like a reason for people not to be wowed

i mean, you dug yourself out of it and your gameplay isn't exactly universally accepted

I then proceeded to call you obvtown for the rest of the day

Your read-flip on me kept me suspcious of you for the rest of that game day. My only real regret about that game is that I didn't try a hell of a lot harder to get serra lynched.

blah

Well, I *have* some, but some of them aren't very strong.

There are also a lot of lurkers in this game.

True re the lurkers. Some of the players that came off most scummy early on have disappeared. That includes your predecessor.

to what extent is doc holiday's scumminess transferring over?

I am curious to know if there's any more masons. But from a tactical point of view, I'd rather not know today, because keeping scum in the dark in that respect is better than feeding my curiosity.

If scum do not know how many masons there are, they won't fakeclaim mason, so I'm not sure why BRO asking how many masons there are can be considered as a counter to scum fakeclaims. On the contrary, knowing how many there are tells scum if there's anything to gain or not from fakeclaiming mason.

If both masons die tonight (highly unlikely but yeah it's possible), then we deal with anyone who claims to be a 3rd and final mason if and when it happens. We see if it makes sense for them to be a mason with serene and dram. It's not a concern, because it's a remote chance that both masons die tonight, and someone later claims to be a 3rd, with no 4th to confirm. It's much better imo to keep scum guessing. If they don't know how many masons there are, they can't make an optimal decision on who to NK tonight, because they'll be torn between trimming down the mason group, and hunting other PRs.

Yeah I can see more scum motivation than town for asking how many masons there are.

First post from you guys that has unequivocally hit me as town-motivated. Recalibrating.

I don't get it. How so?

It's a well reasoned,

town

reasoned explanation for why town doesn't need to know the number of masons today, and why leaving the uncertainty in play for scum makes town sense.

i would agree that it's a town-motivated post (jesus christ how is DOMO not town yet to you), but i would disagree with the conclusion

sure, it might make more sense to keep scum in the dark on mason number, but you're not explaining very well why BRO thinking up an elaborate plan for scum is more likely than him just making a bad decision as town

You can try.

You are town reading Bulba. Why?

like i said i'm not seeing any scummy posts and you'll need to bring some to my attention

serene's case is shit

[orcinus_theoriginal]

So your concerns about Mac are no longer relevant?

I will go through and pick out some of the Bulbafenix posts that pinged for me, but probably not until tomorrow. It's past midnight here.

No, I don't trust my early game reads very much

Oh wait...you think I'm still scumreading DOMO?

Dude, you picked up on the post where my read changed and you're asking me that?

no my question was to the effect of "how is DOMO only now getting town why was he scum before" like seriously

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Support shadi lynch now, hesitation gone, meta is weak, scumslips are strong.

I can sort of see the calcifer angle based upon nacho, but I need to pull some... other head was mastin? Mastin work before I look there for a vote.

Not to mention King finally has power back in his state and owes me a readup and reads synch.

Continue sheeping my reads and you'll be fine

You'll have to fast forward a bit to the part where you start sheeping me on calcifer though

That's where we're lynching today

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Cephrir: Nero is town. His scumgame is far less useful (no I'm serious)

I thought BRO was your favorite lynch

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Nero is town. His scumgame is far less useful (no I'm serious)

His town game is his scum game. I think your Nero read is wrong. He's super-scum to me.

well i got him right in BSG

[orcinus_theoriginal]

orcinus, I wonder how much your town read of bulbafenix is predicated on them picking fights with the same player you've fisticuffed with.

if this is a reference to serene

serene gave bulba grief, not vice versa, so i don't think the term 'picking fights' is even applicable

[orcinus_theoriginal]

looks like shameless ate

smells like shameless ate

[orcinus_theoriginal]

not cephrir or nero

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh yeah and BRO is town probs

[orcinus_theoriginal]

sup ms

i think your posting style is rubbing off on me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

lmao

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orc

whoa

[orcinus_theoriginal]

suddenly i'm not so sure about nero's scumminess

he didn't respond this harshly in bsg

[orcinus_theoriginal]

if nero flips town i'm ignoring you, just fyi

[orcinus_theoriginal]

nero certainly didn't swear and fuck around as much in BSG as he's doing in this game (and by the looks of it, in his other scumgames too)

[orcinus_theoriginal]

newbies, mostly

VOTE: nero

[orcinus_theoriginal]

no actually you know what

VOTE: rift

since when are you EVER this sure about reads on day 1

[orcinus_theoriginal]

oh thank god

WELL I CAN'T TELL WHO'S POSTING FROM A SINGLE GIF

I was referring to nero's newbie games. All of them are far more acerbic than BSG

[orcinus_theoriginal]

no no no i misworded my post because it's really early

you know how i always townread nero in this game?

yeah i'm rethinking that

[orcinus_theoriginal]

okay

VOTE: stevie

[orcinus_theoriginal]

nah i'm here to stay

[orcinus_theoriginal]

The collective unit of {Rift, Serene, Crabd, maonic, others} that I am a part of, hence "us"

i just saw this

i get real antsy whenever people other than fery try to form townblocs

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Anyways, I appoint you chief serene basher. gl

I will hold this post with honor and pride

suck it ms

[orcinus_theoriginal]

can you guys just make a promise to a dying man to completely ignore serene/insult him once I flip town.

Well at least if it's based on vague (meta) information, then yes I will try to hold onto that.
Are you already on 13 votes or?

I almost feel like unvoting Nero as we speak.

can i just draw attention to that sentence there

[orcinus_theoriginal]

ftr im a vanilla townie, wanted to guilty stevie tomorrow but seems I wont live that long.

how do you guilty with a rolecop

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i remember now that nero wanted he and SD (neighbors) to fake mason claim in BSG

[orcinus_theoriginal]

orc what is the significance of that

well the supposed gambit that he did

i think nero is town

and i think we should lynch stevie

[orcinus_theoriginal]

is serene still town

i can't tell anymore

[orcinus_theoriginal]

probably not, yeah?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I mean I don't normally doubt mason claims but this is some truly anti-town behavior going on here

[orcinus_theoriginal]

okay

i'm just making sure, y'know

[orcinus_theoriginal]

yes i know that tyvm

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Every player that posted post-lynch is 100% confirmed town on the NEVERLYNCH list.

thor

[orcinus_theoriginal]

serene is jackshit.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Calcifer's confession:

I like ProHawk dying but both dying together makes no sense unless both scumteams used their kills to scumhunt.

yes.

VOTE: calcifer

[orcinus_theoriginal]

The nightkills point to calcifer or someone who's globally recognized as town

[orcinus_theoriginal]

TiP was vig'ed

not necessarily

you dropped a really retarded crumb to tip mason that i picked up on, maybe scum team did too

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I opppose nero's ban. He is the people's hero.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

also screw in a hole serene and go kiss a cunt

why would you want to besmirch a cunt so

[orcinus_theoriginal]

It crushes my holy soul to type these words, for all the misery and sadness that this entails, but orcinus was town, is town, and will be town.

If we can get back on track and lynch Stevie, the temple's door will be wide open.

hehe, pussy

hey orc one of my heads posted in the QT comparing you to pirate mollie

that's really mean


i wouldn't take that shit from me if i were you

It crushes my holy soul to type these words, for all the misery and sadness that this entails, but orcinus was town, is town, and will be town.

If we can get back on track and lynch Stevie, the temple's door will be wide open.

hehe, pussy

this on the other hand, this guy is so town

he may as well be masons with me

It's a really small point but I really doubt the existence of a town-aligned kill

[orcinus_theoriginal]

calcifer you are not reaching out to me at all

[orcinus_theoriginal]

BRO is scum over my dead body

I will redeem myself for letting the Nero lynch go through

[orcinus_theoriginal]

*BRO is lynched over my dead body

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm a lot more interested in your thoughts about a bulba lynch.

I am still seeing an alarming lack of a case

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Jesus fuck just because somebody doesn't blindly believe a mason claim does not suggest scum over paranoid townie you tards

[orcinus_theoriginal]

"Been trying to get reads to settle in my head the past couple of days."

For the past two days I've been lurking hard and have no reads whatsoever, sorry. I've even been scum-QT-prod. My head is dizzy and overly medicated and I have spells of amnesia and uncontrollable epileptic fits.

"I looked around a bit and didn't find a whole lot; not really that difficult with all the nonsense in the thread."

It's not my fault, it's your fault.

"The game's still moving pretty damn fast"

Being scum makes me lazy, don't expect reads anytime until the Apocalypse.

"but a lot of it is just talk that isn't really alignment-indicative either way"

Buddhascum says: "There is no good nor evil, only reincarnation into slime molds."

"I'll probably look into ProHawk sometime tomorrow to see if anyone's interactions with him stand out."

And by "probably" I mean "never" and I hope you'll soon forget that I made this promise. See you in LYLO, suckers!

From the makers of the above post:

ANOTHER retarded case on a townie!

No holy shit no that is not how scum slips work

It was a slight change in language that you have blown completely out of fucking proportion. Listen to BRO ffs he's more towny than you are and he doesn't even have a mason claim right now

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Actually I take that back

Ank might be scum I haven't taken a close enough look but the case on his post is batshit retarded

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Serene you're wrong. Double negative != positive in all languages or even English dialects.

You and I are in-thread masoning right now

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: Zdenek

[orcinus_theoriginal]

DOMO is town. Rev is a bad scum hunter

Stevie I could live with but calcifer is more dangerous

Can everyone just read what BRO posted in all caps right there

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Read it twice, actually, because some of you are apparently bad at that

pedit: okay so Zdenek is also a good lynch

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Explain that last para, ceph

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Ank might be scum I haven't taken a close enough look but the case on his post is batshit retarded

The case is correct and I'm sad you cannot grasp the inescapable logic that has led to the right conclusion.

Further, you are voting Zdenek, so your hours of berating Serene for voting a townie ought to be over.

just leave. The average intelligence of this thread would rise by a couple IQ points

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I mean. Just scream "i am narrative spinning" harder

I don't think it possible

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And honestly I kinda want fenix to rage at me since I can get a better read on people when they're emotional


Pedit: he said ignore us, he also said we were town. He was no threat to my slot.

Yes telling people to rage at you will incite genuine rage

How is it even possible for--

What is it like inside your head

Holy -shit-

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm more interested in bulba's "hitting his stride" slip. That seems to be going ignored while people focus on the language issue, which I'm happy to accept is worthless.

I'm a bad scumhunter? Yeah because I missed orc in my last game, misread him as strong town, and I've been doing it again this game. I'm starting to think orc is teamed with BRO and bulba, and they realise that if bulba dies today, the "hitting his stride" comment will get more love, hawk's comments will be further analysed, and BRO will get lynched to fuck. That's would explain why orc is so keen to protect them.

If BRO and bulba flip same scum team, lynch orc fast please guys, don't let him worm his way out. He is more than capable of towning it to high hell when scum.

This is /exactly/ why I say you are a bad scumhunter

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I really want to talk about xenoblade for a million fucking reasons but we can't right now especially with many players overlapping and xenoblade at lylo so DON'T.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orc is voting for me. That's funny.

Orc weren't you whining about people voting for others without there being cases against them?

Hi I'm voting someone who is sheeping onto a jack shit retarded case, refusing to lead it in any shape or form, and is mum on expanding upon said case even when asked

Edit: no domo is not GODDAMNIT EVERYONE IS VOTING TOWN RIGHT NOW

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Explain that last para, ceph

Well, look at yesterday. It still feels like Serene has a lot of pull in this town even though I'm not really sure why, and they tend to get mad at anyone who questions them.

When the game is over and you learn our identities this will not surprise you on either count

When this game is over I will humiliate you for how bad your reads were

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Nice job leaving out context, Zdscum

I've kept Fenix off of them for the most part since their claim. He pushed me hard on it.

Have you ever hydra'd before?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

GODDAMNIT EVERYONE IS VOTING TOWN RIGHT NOW

So you're scum and there is one scum team.
Got it.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

This. I love it when people do this

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Nice job leaving out context, Zdscum

I've kept Fenix off of them for the most part since their claim. He pushed me hard on it.

Have you ever hydra'd before?

As far as I could tell that was regarding day one.

No, but that has nothing to do with them being full of shit.

All right so you have no idea how hydra interaction works and how one partner's reads can impact or even muffle the other's

[orcinus_theoriginal]

In English and in this instance, the contradiction is clear. So Broseidon and Orc are dumb or scum (scum especially if BulbaFenix does flip town).

Lets go back to this

Zdenek says bro and I are scum for "lol contradiction is clear bitches"

Okay, so since that got blown to shit, his scum read on us should have dissipated, right?

Then why does he continue to call me scum?

Scum's reads are fabricated and they need to remember to keep the trajectory clean. They are more likely than town to do this kind of shit, where they remember the read, but flub up on the reason. Zd calls me scum for a reason that got torn apart--and yet he continues

Calcifer>zd>Stevie