Newbie 1758 - Symmetry (Game Over)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:34 am

First couple posts just random voting?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:34 am

Right?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:35 am

In post 9, Hellfire Missile wrote:Right?

Guys, will i get into trouble (aka death) if i just vote for a random person?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #25 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:57 am

In post 12, Loopdan wrote:Isn't this your 2nd game, HM?

yeah

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #34 (isolation #4) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:02 am

In post 26, Loopdan wrote:
In post 25, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 12, Loopdan wrote:Isn't this your 2nd game, HM?
yeah
Why are asking about how RVS works?

because last time when i did random vote the guy that i was voting for became convinced that i was scum. He was two lynches or one lynch away from being lynched, didn't know, and basically for the rest of the short lived game he was convinced that i was scum, which i wasn't (Does this count as a spoiler/giving away too much info?)

Okay, second game, still don't know what to do, as evidenced by the last game.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #37 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:09 am

In post 35, Jackel98 wrote:You're allowed to talk about other games, as long as they are finished. This is often used to give evidence for a player's meta, or how that player tends to play.

Finished means lynched, NK'ed

Completed means game complete, one side got their win condition iirc

Yeah?

Alright, so what i've learned is that to analyze scum you need to watch for contradictions in their statements right?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #39 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:12 am

VOTE: Psyche

uhhhh

do i need to give a reason

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #41 (isolation #7) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:23 am

In post 40, Joshz wrote:
In post 34, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 26, Loopdan wrote:
In post 25, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 12, Loopdan wrote:Isn't this your 2nd game, HM?
yeah
Why are asking about how RVS works?
because last time when i did random vote the guy that i was voting for became convinced that i was scum. He was two lynches or one lynch away from being lynched, didn't know, and basically for the rest of the short lived game he was convinced that i was scum, which i wasn't (Does this count as a spoiler/giving away too much info?)

Okay, second game, still don't know what to do, as evidenced by the last game.
RVS are the first things to build reads on. For example, my only read atp not null is human sequencer lean scum.

Was that guy town? Seems like awful town gameplay if he tunneled you the whole game

idk yet, he hasn't died...

But, people were pretty sure that we were both town before i died so...

First time, i was l-1, someone else managed to convince people that i was townie, because i couldn't defend my self (still cant)

Second time, was actually lynched

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #44 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:55 am

In post 43, Human Sequencer wrote:@Hellfire Missile Do not talk about ongoing games.
That is, any game that is currently going on, whether you're alive in them, dead in them, or even never played in them.
You can post about them as soon as they end in a victory, loss or draw.
What you just posted is violating the rules. I hope the mod will treat you kindly for it, because it was clearly just a misunderstanding.

But other people can go through and look through it right

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #48 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:18 am

shit.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #54 (isolation #10) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:45 am

damn you guys are alot more active.

This is gonna be fun :p

(of course it could just be bc its first couple pages)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #89 (isolation #11) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:23 am

UNVOTE: All

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #90 (isolation #12) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:27 am

idk what's happening but i think my computer/Mafia site is broken. Mafia site keeps saying that all you guys have posted at 4:20 ish PM but its only 3:26 right now

And a bunch of new posts just popped up

Any ideas on how to fix?

gonna try refresh

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #93 (isolation #13) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:29 am

why does everyone have like majors in human physiology or whatever..

its so confusing

i've asked for help in contradictions or whatever but damn

no one really helps me and if they do i still wind up being confused

please

i've read stuff on the wiki but still

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #94 (isolation #14) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:30 am

In post 92, Jackel98 wrote:Look under the User Control Panel

can't i have a school computer and it blocks system modifications including brightness, time settings, etc

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #101 (isolation #15) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:25 pm

In post 97, Loopdan wrote:
@Hellfire
-- Do you have any other logins on this forum? Is so, you should know that alt accounts are not allowed to join Newbie games as newbies (only as replacements).

If it isn't obvious, I think you might be an experienced player who is acting like a super-newbie.

must.
refrain.
from.
referencing.
other.
game.

aaaaa

not an alt.

lets sum up what i know so that i don't get lynched later. (Still going to because of the reasons stated below)

I know vocabulary (woooooo but it was a sticking point for people)

Don't know how to read, can't defend, can't attack/accuse

and this is why i'm going to be 1st lynch (yay!)

So.....

Like, not a complete idiot but still.

I need someone to make a really bad contradiction

and then help me

see, reading people sounds easy on paper

but when i try it all i see is

(X) posted this

(Y) posted that

(Z) accuses me

(me) idk help

enough.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #105 (isolation #16) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:42 am

In post 104, Psyche wrote:hellfire, maybe instead of looking for scum, you can try to develop townreads and then apply the process of elimination to decide who to vote
or, instead of looking for decisive contradictions, you just regularly update us on things you've found interesting about different and whether it can be interpreted as a scum vs town move

But how would i town read?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #107 (isolation #17) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:42 am

In post 106, Psyche wrote:do they look like they're trying to find and lynch scum

But how would i know that?

You said that i should try to town read people instead of scum lynching

But..
how do i know they

this is confusing

how would i know that they are trying to hunt scum? What if they are scum?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #161 (isolation #18) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:40 am

In post 160, Human Sequencer wrote:Yeah Josh isn't a scumread.
Sputnik is still a little suss to me, but it's mostly a hunch.

VOTE: Jackel98
Nothing but IIoA. Post more.

Loopdan is either town or scum really trying hard to be town, harder than they have to.

what's iioa

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #162 (isolation #19) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:43 am

do we want to look for lurkers? Would i count as one? Who's getting voted on anyway? just Josh?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #163 (isolation #20) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:50 am

just slightly panicked but how do i read people as scum or town? help on both please? i've tried to ask people about this but they just brush me off. I can't go out of newbie queue without knowing how to read and im already on my second game and i still dont know how to defend or read people. I would like to learn more about reading but defending myself would also be good. Can someone (IC, SE's) help me? I know IC has already tried but i still don't quite get it.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #172 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:37 am

In post 164, Human Sequencer wrote: if this newbie thing is an act, screw you.

why?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #183 (isolation #22) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:37 am

who hasn't voted? i know i'm not voting for him. (for now)

Come on guys, we are only 8 pages in..

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #187 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:40 am

who hasn't voted? i'd look but in a rush

@psyche what do you mean

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #202 (isolation #24) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:04 am

In post 194, Loopdan wrote:
In post 164, Human Sequencer wrote:Yo HM. This game isn't a puzzle that's made for you to solve. It's a puzzle you have to solve yourself.

There's 10 players here. 2 of them are scum. You know you're town.
Red alert.

what red alert

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #243 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:52 am

In post 237, HowardRoark wrote: @Hellfire Missile: I want some content from you. Since you are having difficulties with how to scum hunt, I have an exercise. Analyzing votes (timing, patterns, results) can be useful. Check out the votes for Joshz since that's been our big wagon so far. Think about the timing and stated reason of each vote. Think about them relative to each other. Read them from both playing as scum and playing as town mentalities.

Okay. I'll try. Thanks for the tip

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #244 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:53 am

In post 243, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 237, HowardRoark wrote: @Hellfire Missile: I want some content from you. Since you are having difficulties with how to scum hunt, I have an exercise. Analyzing votes (timing, patterns, results) can be useful. Check out the votes for Joshz since that's been our big wagon so far. Think about the timing and stated reason of each vote. Think about them relative to each other. Read them from both playing as scum and playing as town mentalities.
Okay. I'll try. Thanks for the tip

what pages?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #246 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:18 am

lemme just lay out some ground work so that i can reference this again.

Scum: Want mis-lynches, want to hide from town by appearing town

Town: Want to find and lynch scum, don't want to mis-lynch

People that voted for Joshz (Past or Current): Jackel98, HowardRoark, Loopdan, DayahaangRai

People that Joshz has voted for: Loopdan, (replaced), HowardRoark

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #297 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:35 am

Working on my reads on Joshz..

Might seem weird (Reasoning)

Don't judge

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #298 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:57 am

In post 153, Joshz wrote:[quote="In
I have a third one from the sub, which is 2 shy of hammer

Joshz seems scum.
He's almost too calm, collected, for a townie being 2 lynches away from death, although it could be because he wasn't on l-1.
He didn't give explanations for scum reads/voting for me and claims it's "gut" (is this a reasonable reason for attacking someone?)
Like, if i was 2 lynches away from being killed I'd be freaking out if i was a townie.

VOTE: Joshz

Okay, i tried, I hope i did something useful, although it could all be wrong(probably but its my first read so i'm sticking with it).

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #299 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:57 am

In post 298, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 153, Joshz wrote:
I have a third one from the sub, which is 2 shy of hammer
Joshz seems scum.
He's almost too calm, collected, for a townie being 2 lynches away from death, although it could be because he wasn't on l-1.
He didn't give explanations for scum reads/voting for me and claims it's "gut" (is this a reasonable reason for attacking someone?)
Like, if i was 2 lynches away from being killed I'd be freaking out if i was a townie.

VOTE: Joshz

Okay, i tried, I hope i did something useful, although it could all be wrong(probably but its my first read so i'm sticking with it).

whoops messed up on the quote

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #302 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:21 am

In post 301, Loopdan wrote:This is getting ridiculous.
VOTE: Psyche

In post 272, Psyche wrote:ok im back

@Xalxe
-- Was Psyche prodded prior to ^this? Your rule-set requires "a game-advancing post" to get off the prod, right?

Just went through Xalxe's posts

No Psyche hasn't been prodded before, the only person prodded was Jackel

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #303 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:23 am

"A prodded player has 48 hours to respond to the prod with a game-advancing post, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found."

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #311 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:21 am

In post 305, Locust wrote:Hey Hellfire you are back. I think if you were scum it would of been an ideal opportunity to put a vote on me I am getting close to being lynched and have a vote on you with the way you have played this I was expecting you to vote me when you became active again. I have to ask though what is your read on me I think I am L-2 (I may be counting the votes wrong) would you expect me to be panicking more?

I don't think you would be panicking because you got 1 vote, but Rai got the other 2-3 votes, which wasn't your fault.
I'm not gonna vote for you (yet) because i don't think you deserve the extra pressure that Rai generated.

What i'm trying to say is i think the situation that you found your self in wasn't your fault, and now people may be bias against your position/alignment

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #312 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:22 am

In post 310, Human Sequencer wrote:i doubt it's alignment indicative considering he's the IC

He hasn't really read anyone, been mainly focusing on helping people (me)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #313 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:23 am

just read his posts in iso and he hasn't voted anybody except Loopdan, and even so he retracted after finding something (forgot) that Loopdan said or whatever.

Wonder why? no time?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #315 (isolation #36) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:32 am

In post 314, Human Sequencer wrote:joshz/psyche scumteam would be absolutely hilarious

why?

i kinda almost get it?

but no i dont..

explain please?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #320 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:35 am

In post 317, Joshz wrote:
In post 314, Human Sequencer wrote:joshz/psyche scumteam would be absolutely hilarious
My first forum mafia game I subbed in as scum day 3 and the 2nd of 4 scum got lynched so it was just me and the most experienced player (not a newbie game) and I won in lylo.

Anybody voting locust: get off or you're scum. He's townie. One of the guys on his wagon is scum. Psyche could definitely be the lurker scum partner. Notice how a lot of locusts wagon was my wagon too? Jackel was early on both so on one hand I'd like to lynch jackel but on the other hand Hellfire Missile voting me because I'm calm is ?????????????? like dude did you not read the massive ates????????? plus Jackel's vote on me seemed slightly better than the others

ates?

also too many fucking ? marks

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #321 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:38 am

In post 320, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 317, Joshz wrote:
In post 314, Human Sequencer wrote:joshz/psyche scumteam would be absolutely hilarious
My first forum mafia game I subbed in as scum day 3 and the 2nd of 4 scum got lynched so it was just me and the most experienced player (not a newbie game) and I won in lylo.

Anybody voting locust: get off or you're scum. He's townie. One of the guys on his wagon is scum. Psyche could definitely be the lurker scum partner. Notice how a lot of locusts wagon was my wagon too? Jackel was early on both so on one hand I'd like to lynch jackel but on the other hand Hellfire Missile voting me because I'm calm is ?????????????? like dude did you not read the massive ates????????? plus Jackel's vote on me seemed slightly better than the others
ates?

also too many fucking ? marks

also prove that you know he's townie

note: don't do G u T because it doesn't help.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #327 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:35 am

In post 324, Locust wrote:Hellfire I would be interested in your reads on other people in this game as well. It would help me understand your thought processes more and (if you are finding it so hard to get reads) may help you out with getting some of your own gut feelings. I would be interested mostly on your reads on Space and Psyche, but anyone else you have a strong feeling about based on their actions and perceived intentions I would also like to hear. The reason IU am asking you this is you currently seem to be here and active and the only people you have had reads on so far seem to be Joshz and a little on me.

i can't really read (no time maybe tomorrow? because reading takes alot of my time) but for Psyche he hasn't read anyone, only voted for one person (Loopdan) and quickly retracted the vote. I'd like to prod him but he's already been prodded.

I just wish he would say something.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #329 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:36 am

In post 325, HowardRoark wrote: @Hellfire Missile: I appreciate the effort, however I was hoping for more/better. Do you feel that it was helpful at all?

I thought it was sorta helpful?

Atleast to me it was.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #330 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:37 am

In post 326, Joshz wrote:So one guy is sring me for not showing emotion and another for too much. Good plan. The lynch pool today imo is Hellfire Missile, Howard, Psyche and jackel. I'm fairly confident both scum are in that pool.

Isn't that like almost all the people who voted for you?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #331 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:40 am

for my read on Joshz, my experience on emotion is a lot of caps, ! marks, ? marks, generally angry (from what i can tell)

gonna go through Joshz's posts again, see if i see any emotion

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #332 (isolation #43) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:42 am

for reading Locust should i be focusing on his posts or Rai's?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #339 (isolation #44) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:31 am

In post 337, Joshz wrote:You can tell if you genuinely look at his behaviour. Iso him.

is this about my language use?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #352 (isolation #45) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:02 am

In post 340, Joshz wrote:[quote="In \
Psyche defended me

Stop trying to make a joke about me using gut reads because that's all day 1 really is.

Where did he defend you?

It's not a joke I just don't like gut reads because you accuse someone on "gut" and give no other reasons why they act scum or town

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #353 (isolation #46) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:16 am

In post 352, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 340, Joshz wrote: Psyche defended me

Stop trying to make a joke about me using gut reads because that's all day 1 really is.
Where did he defend you?

It's not a joke I just don't like gut reads because you accuse someone on "gut" and give no other reasons why they act scum or town

whoops

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #354 (isolation #47) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:18 am

also why is everyone so convinced that i'm a expert playing as a noob?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #355 (isolation #48) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:19 am

also why is everyone so convinced that i'm a expert playing as a noob?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #356 (isolation #49) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:19 am

In post 355, Hellfire Missile wrote:also why is everyone so convinced that i'm a expert playing as a noob?

whoops?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #357 (isolation #50) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:08 am

why is everyone convinced space is scum

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #358 (isolation #51) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:11 am

about 5-ish more hours till IC gets replaced if he doesn't post.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #359 (isolation #52) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:12 am

In post 351, Human Sequencer wrote:looks like sobolev is acting
looks like locust is acting
looks like hm is acting
looks like josh might be acting
looks like you and howard might be acting
thats all i got, it's not a hard read and i can't adequately point it out to you. i don't really think it's alignment indicative
just reads like a lot of you are trying hard to be a person you're not, hard to explain, irrelevant to the game

sololev is scum, best lynch
VOTE: sobolev space

why are 1/2 of the people acting

How are they acting

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #362 (isolation #53) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:49 am

In post 361, Human Sequencer wrote:i'm undecided on it
looks fake but it could be legit

fuck not this again

if im lynched im not gonna fucking do anything

second time im just.

ugh

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #363 (isolation #54) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:49 am

In post 362, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 361, Human Sequencer wrote:i'm undecided on it
looks fake but it could be legit
fuck not this again

if im lynched im not gonna fucking do anything

second time im just.

ugh

*tilt

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #365 (isolation #55) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:57 am

In post 364, Loopdan wrote:We have less than random odds of hitting scum Day 1, so without a strong scum read on anyone, I'd like to lynch either HM or Psyche. Both are anti-town and it will be difficult to sort their alignments on future Days if they continue to play like this.

please no

i don't wanna get lynched d1 again

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #371 (isolation #56) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:41 am

In post 366, HowardRoark wrote:@Hellfire Missile: I'm glad that it was helpful for you and that you are becoming a bit more involved. When reading, I usually read by slot. If the player was replaced (flaked or requested) I take that into consideration.
If you don't want to be lynched, you need to contribute worthwhile content. What is your plan to be productive D2?

"content" = reads(?)

hmm..

well if i don't get lynched or night killed..

actually, i'd like some help first.

Is my read on Joshz okay? (reasons, not who/what i think he is)

Imma try to base my actions depending on whether my read on joshz was good or not, and will attempt to refine reads

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #375 (isolation #57) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:43 am

In post 153, Joshz wrote:I'm not freaking out. I have accepted that I'm not going to enjoy this game.

He gives up.

In post 212, Joshz wrote:Gut mostly, if I had a real case I'd post it

see? this is why i pointed it out.
"real case i'd post it"
"real"

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #382 (isolation #58) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:12 am

In post 380, Joshz wrote:
In post 370, Loopdan wrote:@Joshz-- Please explain how locust is guaranteed town.
He is town. I have nothing to cite. He is town and I know I'm not wrong.

What me saying this means is that he should NEVER BE lynched unless I am both killed and flip red (which, while not true, will happen at some point with how amazing this game is). This is because there is nothing to gain from his flip. If it's green that doesn't clear me and if it were to be red it wouldn't even help a ton. So what needs to happen if you want to lynch him is to lynch me first, pand once you see my green flip any doc we have needs to be on him. I don't even think his wagon has to be scum made but it's a bad wagon, almost as bad as mine. The best wagon this game is Psyche but I don't think policy lynching him is a good idea. Sobolev and HM both have merits but if you isolate HM it just seems really really fake and empty and frankly brushing that off and ignoring the topic makes him seem all the better to lynch.

screw you.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #383 (isolation #59) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:17 am

In post 376, Loopdan wrote:@HM-- Why do you think him giving up is more likely to come from a scum point of view than a town point of view?

because town know that if they're night killed or lynched the town loses what i think of like a life. 2 mafia (right the table confuses me), and the rest are townie (6 players?) so if a mislynch and a night kill happen on day 1 the town loses 2 members, down to 2v4. another mislynch turns into turns into 3v2 (Mylo? something lo? forgot) but then another night kill means 2v2, mafia wins. (look it maybe this was a bad idea but I read the wiki and discovered all this okay fuck you joshz).

Town doesn't wanna get lynched because then if they do its another life lost and the mafia win comes closer to winning, while a good(correct?) lynch means 1v6, night kill 1v5, then the town gets more time to decide(?)

that's my reason

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #384 (isolation #60) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:19 am

In post 383, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 376, Loopdan wrote:@HM-- Why do you think him giving up is more likely to come from a scum point of view than a town point of view?
because town know that if they're night killed or lynched the town loses what i think of like a life. 2 mafia (right the table confuses me), and the rest are townie (6 players?) so if a mislynch and a night kill happen on day 1 the town loses 2 members, down to 2v4. another mislynch turns into turns into 3v2 (Mylo? something lo? forgot) but then another night kill means 2v2, mafia wins. (look it maybe this was a bad idea but I read the wiki and discovered all this okay fuck you joshz).

Town doesn't wanna get lynched because then if they do its another life lost and the mafia win comes closer to winning, while a good(correct?) lynch means 1v6, night kill 1v5, then the town gets more time to decide(?)

that's my reason

"2-mafia and 7-town setup"

nvm but my point still stands

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #391 (isolation #61) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:44 am

@Mod Are you gonna look for a replacement for our IC.

He hasn't responded to your prod.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #401 (isolation #62) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:10 am

rip IC.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #435 (isolation #63) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:05 am

@Mod V/LA 11/23-11/28

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #521 (isolation #64) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:09 am

I'm assuming that I'm going to be Lynched Day 2 because I'm anti-town.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #522 (isolation #65) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:10 am

But why Huntress?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #523 (isolation #66) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:15 am

In post 515, Joshz wrote:Ok so it's a doc and mafia roleblocked game

How do you know?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #527 (isolation #67) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:30 am

"Lets lynch everyone"

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #544 (isolation #68) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:48 am

okay then

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #552 (isolation #69) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:18 pm

In post 546, Joshz wrote:hellfire claim now and make a case if you have one to live

im ready to hammer you

VT

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #557 (isolation #70) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:16 pm

fuck it i attempted to read and blanked

lynch me if you will i can't do anything

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #574 (isolation #71) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:15 am

In post 560, Sobolev Space wrote:HM, you seem legitimately exasperated here. If you're not enjoying the game then you should probably ask for a replacement instead of just resigning yourself to being lynched. But if you still want to play remember its a newbie game and you can ask for help on how to get content started.

Alright then. Going to do just that.

How do i get content started? Who do i focus on? Don't give me some shit on who acts most scum, because I have no idea either. Don't tell me who look's most town because I don't know that either (contributing to town discussion?) How do you even get reads? (No gut because atm irl i actually don't know how i'm feeling everyday so I wouldn't recognize a gut when i saw one)

Can I ask more questions during a non-newbie game and not get automatically lynched?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #575 (isolation #72) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:17 am

In post 560, Sobolev Space wrote:If you're not enjoying the game then you should probably ask for a replacement instead of just resigning yourself to being lynched.

Yeah I know it's not fair to you guys. I'm aiming to get at least one (good?) read off before i'm lynched

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #578 (isolation #73) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:38 am

In post 576, Xalxe wrote:
Stranger things have happened. Like you. You are happening all the time and should probably stop.

Said the evil magical turtle

Magical

Turtle

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #579 (isolation #74) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:38 am

isthatevenaturtleanyway

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #581 (isolation #75) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:25 am

In post 580, Human Sequencer wrote:Hellfire is using encrypted text, requesting modkill so town can win

this post is a joke

nobodyunderstandsmypainofbeinganoob nooneunderstandsthati'mnotscum

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #582 (isolation #76) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:48 am

"evil magical turtles in mario"

This is what i looked up on google

you know what fucking came up Xalxe?

YOU

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #588 (isolation #77) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:46 am

In post 586, Locust wrote:Could someone tell me what NAI and TvS stand for please?

non-alignment-indicative (doesn't signal whether town or scum pretty much) TvS is town v scum?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #591 (isolation #78) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:47 am

In post 584, Locust wrote:Hellfire dude we are all in the same boat this is my first game of mafia on the forums you know just as much about everyone as I do. Read posts and just let us know if anything stands out to you don't get hung up on it just let it flow. I have no training in playing you just read what people say and look for dodgy stuff. By not doing that you appear to be scum as they don't like pointing fingers. The other option of course is you are scum in which case just say "I am scum" and we can lynch you and go home.

if i said i am scum and i wasn't

then would that be not fulfilling my win condition and there for i will get a ban or something?

i am "totally"

scum

town

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #610 (isolation #79) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:42 am

In post 606, HowardRoark wrote:@Hellfire Missile: Not sure what more to do right now to assist you. Read, think, question, share, ... Please do not join non-Newbie games without having some better ability.

my biggest problem is if i die in this game i cant join any more newbie games as a noob.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #613 (isolation #80) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:06 am

In post 611, Joshz wrote:hey is it against the rules to discuss hellfire's other game? it is still going on (day 5) but all I want to discuss is hellfire, who was lynched day 1, and discuss his flip.

Yes. Look at pg. 2

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #629 (isolation #81) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:45 pm

This is all is gonna be shit but i'm going to get lynched anyway so why the fuck not.

Also gonna be either scum or town because don't wanna get into the details too much

Huntress: Town
Not alota information to go off of, i think she's waiting for more information to vote. Clear-headed, (coldly?) logical, could easily sway town to vote her way (maybe not locust idk)
I just don't feel she's scum

morelater (maybe on huntress because i feel like that was too short)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #637 (isolation #82) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:24 am

In post 632, Joshz wrote:
In post 629, Hellfire Missile wrote:This is all is gonna be shit but i'm going to get lynched anyway so why the fuck not.

Also gonna be either scum or town because don't wanna get into the details too much

Huntress: Town
Not alota information to go off of, i think she's waiting for more information to vote. Clear-headed, (coldly?) logical, could easily sway town to vote her way (maybe not locust idk)
I just don't feel she's scum

morelater (maybe on huntress because i feel like that was too short)
not sarcastic: is this a joke?

fuck you

im trying you fuck

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #638 (isolation #83) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:26 am

In post 637, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 632, Joshz wrote:
In post 629, Hellfire Missile wrote:This is all is gonna be shit but i'm going to get lynched anyway so why the fuck not.

Also gonna be either scum or town because don't wanna get into the details too much

Huntress: Town
Not alota information to go off of, i think she's waiting for more information to vote. Clear-headed, (coldly?) logical, could easily sway town to vote her way (maybe not locust idk)
I just don't feel she's scum

morelater (maybe on huntress because i feel like that was too short)
not sarcastic: is this a joke?
fuck you

im trying you fuck

I even said that it's gonna be shit but here you are shitting all over my day

fuck you

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #649 (isolation #84) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:12 pm

In post 639, Joshz wrote:Dude

We established huntress is literally 100% town and your fucking reads post is reading huntress as probably town? That's all you fucking have? There's a difference between bad reads and no effort ones. I will shit on your day again and again if your singular read is a probably town read on a conftown. If you legitimately are that bad after 3 games, idk what to tell you, I recommend you find an experienced player to hydra with. It'll help a lot because clearly you aren't learning with your current method. So fuck you, not fuck me.

*insert "i didn't see" comment here

sorry

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #660 (isolation #85) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:13 am

Guys i can't really post today, i will post on monday

do i need to read Joshz as i am bias against him

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #666 (isolation #86) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:46 am

My biggest problem on getting reads on anyone except Joshz is that no one has been voted for, with the exception of Space and even then she didn't react at all to the two votes she got (which by the way Joshz flipped the fuck out when he got 3 votes and was already resigned before then)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #668 (isolation #87) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:55 am

In post 667, Human Sequencer wrote:BUMP

i'm working on it okay

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #670 (isolation #88) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:04 am

With Rai freaking out no one tried to generate pressure on Human in Vote Count 1.6 (only place i could find 1+ votes for him) and thus, he didn't react and pressure was dropped (again Rai situation)

Rereading pages 9-11 THERE'S LITERALLY FUCK ALL REACTIONS FROM HUMAN

two people voted for him but he didn't respond, because of Rai.

It's like he didn't even notice he had two votes

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #671 (isolation #89) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:05 am

ffs the only read i can do is Joshz (why)

He's the only person who reacted to the votes

and i already did him

Suggestions?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #673 (isolation #90) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:21 am

In post 672, Human Sequencer wrote:^^that is towny BTW

what's townie

not reacting to a vote(s)?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #675 (isolation #91) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:58 am

In post 674, Human Sequencer wrote:Yep!

this sounds super shifty

where the fuck is everyone else

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #678 (isolation #92) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:23 am

In post 676, Human Sequencer wrote:I was joking.

suss

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #679 (isolation #93) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:23 am

VOTE: Human Sequencer

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #680 (isolation #94) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:24 am

In post 673, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 672, Human Sequencer wrote:^^that is towny BTW
what's townie

not reacting to a vote(s)?

i shit you knot

suss of reaction

knots

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #682 (isolation #95) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:32 am

Jackel clears Joshz as town (maybe?) after Joshz's ATE
He says Loopdan acts suss after lack of emotion
Rai (now Locus) scum (cleared)
Space scumish
Goes back to voting Joshz

(all of this was looking at Jackel ISO)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #692 (isolation #96) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:38 am

In post 683, Locust wrote:
However I am not sure what it is you are doing so clear it up for me exactly why do you think Human might be scum?

Just the way Human acted after I pointed out that he didn't react to two votes just sticks me the wrong way

it just seems super shifty

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #695 (isolation #97) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:34 am

Is Joshz town cleared?

I only know of Huntress and Locust cleared (although locust maybe isn't cop? Idk how you guys proved him but i suspect it had something to do with cross referencing tables so if you guys could explain that it would be helpful)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #705 (isolation #98) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:34 am

Why would a HM lynch as Town give good info?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #706 (isolation #99) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:37 am

Space what were your reasons for voting Jackel?

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:39 am

In post 704, Human Sequencer wrote:The last time you even mentioned me was around about post 220 or something. Now you're just pulling a scumread on me out of your ass to desperately try and flip a wagon on me.

This i agree with

She's only voted for two people: Rai/Alph (was lurking/afk) and Rai/Locust (Scum read Locust's slot because of Rai, withdrew votes)

Need to know why you (space) voted for Jackel

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:56 am

In post 708, Sobolev Space wrote: @HM: I got on the wagon late so didn't really give fleshed out reasons but basically 1. misrepresented my post history and 2. seemed to be playing to post infrequently enough to fly under the radar but enough to not be accused of lurking.

It seems like you just went in for the hammer though.

Why aren't you voting for me then? Are you also going to hammer me without any explanation?

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:57 am

In post 710, Sobolev Space wrote:So Sequencer I was suspect of you before and posts 686 and 688 pinged me hard enough to make you a solid scum read of mine.

Shouldn't you post your suspicion just in case you get night killed?

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:58 am

In post 684, Human Sequencer wrote: Howard isn't our scum and if he is he deserves the win.

why

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:01 am

It's either column B or Row 2 right?

Either a town doc, cop, RB, or an extra goon + cop + VT right

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:11 am

[quote="In post 220, Human Sequencer"

]she doesn't need to be concerned about herself this early on and that Josh wants to see more hunting from her, her posts flip over to 'Eh, it's just a few votes on me, I don't care

'[/quote]
This is ironic

Human reacted fuck all to his 2 votes placed on him in page 9-11 (somewhere)

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:12 am

In post 717, Hellfire Missile wrote:[quote="In post 220, Human Sequencer"
]she doesn't need to be concerned about herself this early on and that Josh wants to see more hunting from her, her posts flip over to 'Eh, it's just a few votes on me, I don't care
'

This is ironic

Human reacted fuck all to his 2 votes placed on him in page 9-11 (somewhere)[/quote]
wtf how did i screw the quote up i have no idea how to fix this

FIFY please?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #725 (isolation #107) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:07 am

In post 722, HowardRoark wrote: @Hellfire Missile: I'm not understanding your 717, please elaborate.

My purpose was to point out that Human has also not reacted to the two votes that were placed on him during the Rai incident, and i called it ironic because Human's saying that Space is doing the same. (I think that's what i was thinking)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #726 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:40 am

bump

come on guys

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #730 (isolation #109) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:29 am

In post 727, Human Sequencer wrote:Game's already over, we lynch sobolev->hm->josh and win

wtf why

needs more discussion

is ded thread

ded thread = bad thred

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #736 (isolation #110) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:24 am

In post 11, Human Sequencer wrote:@Hellfire
Nah, just if you explode into a random person.

>Jackel98
>Jackel98
>Jackel
98

It's not that tough to figure out bruvs.

this has been confusing me ever since jackel was lynched

Random voting?

Was this /s? (pretty sure)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #749 (isolation #111) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:56 am

In post 738, Joshz wrote:I also don't think knowing his age is scum indicative regardless lmfao

wasn't talking about the age

Hellfire Missile · Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:59 am

In post 749, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 738, Joshz wrote:I also don't think knowing his age is scum indicative regardless lmfao
wasn't talking about the age

(its completely wrong

)

How did he know that it was Jackel? (Hindsight)

or was it Random votes?

I feel retarded for bring this up ._.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #753 (isolation #113) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:13 pm

In post 752, Joshz wrote:If I understand what you're saying, he didn't know it was jackel. Just random votes.

thanks

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #755 (isolation #114) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:35 am

In post 754, Sobolev Space wrote:
In post 702, Human Sequencer wrote:Of course I don't consider the possibility that I'm the NK for two nights. That's Locust and Huntress.
This also seems weird. If the remaining scum is a roleblocker they'd
probably assume
that doc is protecting one of the conftown roles (likely Locust as he's a PR) and
use their NKs elsewhere.
Makes me think HS might have info on the setup we all don't.

This is a classic case of WIFOM :p

just go here:http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM

It's like literally word for word the situation described in Mafia Examples of WIFOM

(wait we do have a doctor right or am i just retarded?)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #756 (isolation #115) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:52 am

In post 755, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 754, Sobolev Space wrote:
In post 702, Human Sequencer wrote:Of course I don't consider the possibility that I'm the NK for two nights. That's Locust and Huntress.
This also seems weird. If the remaining scum is a roleblocker they'd
probably assume
that doc is protecting one of the conftown roles (likely Locust as he's a PR) and
use their NKs elsewhere.
Makes me think HS might have info on the setup we all don't.
This is a classic case of WIFOM :p

just go here:http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM

It's like literally word for word the situation described in Mafia Examples of WIFOM

(wait we do have a doctor right or am i just retarded?)

wait we could have one

yey

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #758 (isolation #116) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:21 am

In post 757, Xalxe wrote:
Whether it can be contained in a dark basement is another matter entirely.

these quotes are getting pretty creepy.

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:01 am

oh fuck

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:42 am

In post 768, Joshz wrote:And I fail to see how your suspicion of me makes sense when I said for a long time that lynching you Sobolev and Hellfire wins AND said I'd lynch you first... but we can't have that debate since someone lolhammered thenselves

I think it was to prove that his read had some credibility.

I doubt it was just for shits and giggles

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #782 (isolation #119) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:04 am

In post 774, Joshz wrote:
locust
and whichever noobie is a townie, you should think long and hard about your lynch because regardless of if it happens today or tomorrow im getting lynched by howard and theres nothing any of us townies can do about it.

Locust is dead.

??

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #783 (isolation #120) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:20 am

In post 782, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 774, Joshz wrote:
locust
and whichever noobie is a townie, you should think long and hard about your lynch because regardless of if it happens today or tomorrow im getting lynched by howard and theres nothing any of us townies can do about it.
Locust is dead.

??

Oh wait nvm you said huntress

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #784 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:21 am

In post 779, HowardRoark wrote:
With Hellfire Missile's flip, I believe she is town.

I'm not dead.

What?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #785 (isolation #122) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:22 am

so if we don't have a doc or a mafia role blocker, the chart says there's a cop, mafia goon, and vanilla townie. What does this mean? Does the town get an extra town and the mafia get an extra good?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #788 (isolation #123) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:34 am

[quote="In post 739, Joshz"

]Human being lynched first validates both reads

because he is convinced you are town and I am town so a town flip is indicative I can trust you more..[/quote]

In post 772, Joshz wrote:it doesnt matter why. it was still awful. even if
he was 100000% confident in lets say sobolev being scum - he is just a vanilla townie. that is still a read and can therefore definitely be wrong
, ESPECIALLY here in a newbie game. he killed off discussing his reads or his lynch.

Do these things contradict

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #789 (isolation #124) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:35 am

cringe

i fucked up

i don't know how to quote but you guys get the gist right

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #795 (isolation #125) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:34 am

In post 794, Joshz wrote:Yea im done reading your posts lmfao

You're lynching me regardless of what I say so you knight as well get your head out of your ass and start hunting for who you think is scum with the assumption I'm town, since I'm getting lynched anyways. Don't reply to this, I'm not reading it, your bullshit rhetoric has annoyed me enough for this game.

Howard?

was "knight" supposed to be "might"

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #799 (isolation #126) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:09 am

In post 798, Joshz wrote:Something else I noted: he is explicitly voting me for not voting Hellfire. This is subliminally telling people "Hey look, I've tunneled my guy since day 1 and haven't wavered! I'm townier in comparison" which is cute.

Wait what.

so not voting for the anti town player automatically makes you look scummy

wtf

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #800 (isolation #127) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:09 am

In post 799, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 798, Joshz wrote:Something else I noted: he is explicitly voting me for not voting Hellfire. This is subliminally telling people "Hey look, I've tunneled my guy since day 1 and haven't wavered! I'm townier in comparison" which is cute.
Wait what.

so not voting for the anti town player automatically makes you look scummy

wtf

ffs i'd love to mention my other game but i cant

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #801 (isolation #128) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:13 am

In post 798, Joshz wrote:Something else I noted: he is explicitly voting me for not voting Hellfire. This is subliminally telling people "Hey look, I've tunneled my guy since day 1 and haven't wavered! I'm townier in comparison" which is cute.

on further thought

you were all about getting rid of me day 2.

on another thought

everyone was all about getting rid of me day 2

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #805 (isolation #129) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:20 am

In post 804, Joshz wrote:and I drove a very large amount of discussion in this thread, including about me. If you reread and seriously call my play sheeping I have nothing to do to you. Nothing you're calling contradicting is contradictory, at ALL. How does me giving up on the thread mean I am guaranteed to not be alive in lylo? I said what I'd do in the hypothetical I was alive. I cannot stand to play with a person like you if you're town and I just don't think you're scum

So I guess my final action in this game is to switch my vote to
VOTE: hellfire and when my less moronic games are done I'll bid farewell to ms.

awww come on.

Hellfire Missile · Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:41 am

In post 807, Sobolev Space wrote:
In post 793, HowardRoark wrote:@Sobolev Space: Have you completed your ISO of me? I feel that your style is somewhat similar to mine. How do you think they differ? Are you still willing to volunteer (end of 699) today? What part of that made/makes sense?
Have skimmed through it. The main thing that made me suspicious is that you seemed to be trying to contribute often enough to appear active without ever being in the center of attention and without ever pushing any lynches/reads on the rest of town. That has somewhat changed with your and Joshz's conversation from yesterday. I agree that Joshz seemed to be cherry picking Sequencer quotes in 790 considering that Sequencer's last two posts were basically "lynch Joshz or Sobolev" but we'll see what his replacement has to say.
As to lynching myself, I mostly did that to call Sequencer on what I saw as their bluff. However, considering Sequencer's flip I kinda assumed I would be the main lynch target for today. If town decides to lynch me I obviously won't be happy about it but its better to lynch a townie now than in lylo. All I ask is that we use all our time for discussion since Sequencer's self-hammer yesterday cut that off.
My preferred lynch today, however, would be HM.

@HM: what is your opinion on Joshz v. Howard? TvT or TvS?

I'll try to post later i have a lot of things to do just came by to see if any thing new happened

Hellfire Missile · Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:09 pm

In post 802, HowardRoark wrote:"I'm leaving this thread <snip> If im still here in lylo"

How is this a contradiction?

I see this as, he was gonna leave the thread, and if/when he came back and wasn't dead, then he'd vote for someone

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #816 (isolation #132) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:30 am

In post 807, Sobolev Space wrote: @HM: what is your opinion on Joshz v. Howard? TvT or TvS?

Joshz has massive AtEs. He got really pissed off after Howard tunneled him, and even before, back at the very start. He could definitely be pissed because Howard discovered something about him, but earlier, when i was reading him, i noticed that he had a lack of emotion when he was two votes away from being lynched (Day 1, Post 298)
It's just weird.

really weird.

First he gets pissed for being voted on for a shitty reason

then he doesn't even react at all (at least emotionally) for his two votes away from Lynch

Then he gets like, ANGRY, when Howard tunneled him

TvS i believe. Josh feels scummy.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #817 (isolation #133) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:32 am

should i vote for Joshz's Replacement?

I'm going to, but if you guys say no i'll unvote

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #818 (isolation #134) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:32 am

VOTE: ThinkBig

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #819 (isolation #135) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:50 am

-crickets chirping-

come on

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #822 (isolation #136) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:34 am

-more crickets chirping-

bump plz

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #826 (isolation #137) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:42 am

In post 824, ThinkBig wrote:Sorry, that was supposed to be @Huntress.

For the record, I have played with Josh a few times. I've noticed in my games with him he tends to flip out and tends to be incoherent regardless of his alignment.

I don't like meta for a couple of reasons

one. It can change

two IM LAZY AS SHIT

three.

fin

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #827 (isolation #138) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:43 am

In post 825, ThinkBig wrote:Current FOS is on hellfire

Just sayin you're gonna find nothing on me

plus i'm anti town

kek.

i suck yes i know

I try

I think i'm better at reading AtE's

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #828 (isolation #139) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:57 am

why won't anybody say anything .-.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #833 (isolation #140) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:13 am

In post 832, HowardRoark wrote:My reads are basically still 773. Plus my earlier Joshz concerns.

Jackel98's doc-Joshz post is tough. That's why I wanted Joshz to explain why he brought it up. It seems he asked for an explanation of a dead players post which would only lead to WIFOM. To me, that is scummy.

Trying to dissect night kills can be helpful but can also be tricky. The way that Joshz was talking about it I read as scummy.

Be careful with referencing other games. You can always find a player's topics and posts from their profile.

Related to activity, I will be out of town for a fundraiser this weekend. I should have a chance to post again a bit later tonight and will post tomorrow; after that it may be Sunday.

V/LA: 16-18 December 2016

You need to set v/la in your profile, and maybe PM the mod

learned that the hard way, got prodded back durin thanksgiving >.<

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #838 (isolation #141) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:45 am

In post 837, Xalxe wrote:
If you’re happy, and you know it, then the chemtrails are finally working.

Never knew you were a conspiracy theorist Xalxe

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #841 (isolation #142) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:06 am

In post 840, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 512, Xalxe wrote:
Vote Count 1.10

The future is what you make of it! Just know that your supplies are limited.

Jackel98 (5): Loopdan, Human Sequencer, Locust, Joshz, Sobolev Space

Sobolev Space (1)
: Jackel98

Joshz (1)
: Hellfire Missile

Not Voting
: Huntress, HowardRoark

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-11-28 08:47:44)

In post 764, Xalxe wrote:
Vote Count 2.5

We all lie dreamily upon damp earth, spotting clouds shaped like animals we have yet to invent.

Human Sequencer (4): Hellfire Missile, Sobolev Space, Huntress, Human Sequencer

Joshz (1)
: HowardRoark

Hellfire Missile (1)
: Joshz

Not Voting
: Locust

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-12-15 10:46:08)
Just a quick vote wagon analysis, Hellfire was not on the wagon when we lynched scum but was on the wagon when we lynched town. Hellfire is currently my biggest FOS.

Hellfire doesn't look on the thread on weekends. He has things to do.

Hellfire almost never gets on from 5-9 PM (Sleep, dinner)

yes.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #842 (isolation #143) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:06 am

Plus i would've unvoted if i'd saw that HS was going to get lynched.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #843 (isolation #144) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:06 am

3rd or 1st person?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #844 (isolation #145) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:08 am

ISO me. You'll see that usually I'm never on during 5(6 idk)-9. .-.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #846 (isolation #146) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:33 am

How am i currently using encrypted text?

Plus, i didn't know. I've stopped. Unless magnifying text is encrypted text?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #847 (isolation #147) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:34 am

In post 845, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 591, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 584, Locust wrote:Hellfire dude we are all in the same boat this is my first game of mafia on the forums you know just as much about everyone as I do. Read posts and just let us know if anything stands out to you don't get hung up on it just let it flow. I have no training in playing you just read what people say and look for dodgy stuff. By not doing that you appear to be scum as they don't like pointing fingers. The other option of course is you are scum in which case just say "I am scum" and we can lynch you and go home.
if i said i am scum and i wasn't

then would that be not fulfilling my win condition and there for i will get a ban or something?

i am "totally"
scum

town
And this?
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Does this stick you the wrong way

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #850 (isolation #148) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:27 am

I can understand if you're scum reading me for being anti-town

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #853 (isolation #149) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:40 pm

I think the problem with me not being able to generate reads is because there's not a lot of AtE's. I'm better at those for some reason, and well i guess everyone here except Joshz has minimal AtE.

Couldn't sleep.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #855 (isolation #150) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:58 pm

[quote="In post 854
If that's the case what's your opinion of very unemotional play? You said earlier it seems weird for people to remain calm when they're close to being lynched. Do you still feel that way?[/quote]
Maybe not just plain unemotional play, but when you're close to being lynched and not freak out? Kinda suss.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #857 (isolation #151) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:17 pm

In post 856, Sobolev Space wrote:Why do you think scum would be less likely to freak out than town? Arguably lynching scum hurts their win condition a lot more than lynching town does. For example, if I got lynched today I'd be disappointed but I'd know town would still have hope in lylo. If scum was lynched today though it'd be game over for them.

because they know that the town doesnt know who the scum are, and so if they don't freak out then they won't get lynched

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #873 (isolation #152) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:23 am

In post 870, Huntress wrote:
In post 842, Hellfire Missile wrote:Plus i would've unvoted if i'd saw that HS was going to get lynched.
Why would you have unvoted?

I would've unvoted because at the time, when i voted, i just had a feeling that something was off. I didn't expect the vote to go by so quickly.

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:24 pm

In post 874, Huntress wrote:Yet you were fine with leaving her at L-2 for two days?

Who?

Me voting for HS?

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:27 pm

atm it didn't even cross my mind. Not saying that i voted for the heck of it, but I didn't realize he/she (is hs a she) was at l-2. I though we needed 5 to lynch (Yes, i was wrong it was 4)

Hellfire Missile · Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:39 pm

What i don't get is why you guys didn't lynch me. I was anti-town and yall were pretty much clamoring for my blood d2

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #880 (isolation #156) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:15 am

Would you like me to self vote?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #899 (isolation #157) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:06 am

[quote="In post 895

@Hellfire Missile: With some detail, what is your read on each of us?
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Seeing as Huntress is confirmed town, i can leave her out.

That leaves ThinkBig, you, and SS
so i'm currently scum reading Joshz, so that means all yall are town (it's a shit strategy i know)
I can't say any of yall are anti-town because you guys all posted reads
I also know that you're supposed to read people based on what they state and then what they do. But the problem is that i can't read people (IRL too) for shit.

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #900 (isolation #158) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:32 am

i work much better with AtE's than well whatever you guys did/are doing

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #902 (isolation #159) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:30 am

In post 901, HowardRoark wrote:@Sobolev Space: Rereading my response, I see I wasn't clear. Your response was well formed and didn't help with my read. It might have been more effective to switch my vote and see a response, but I didn't want to. End result, my fail. As I said, I have mostly a null read on you and that makes me nervous. However my L-1 analysis has me feeling more confident that you are town and we can win this game.

@Hellfire Missile: Why the scum read on
Joshz
ThinkBig? How does AtE differ from "read people based on what they state and then what they do"?

VOTE: ThinkBig

With the holiday weekend, I am more available today and tomorrow but less so on Sunday which I believe is deadline. I'll post more thoughts later but don't want to go down to the wire.

When they get mad, they make more mistakes.
More mistakes equals more constrictions.

tada

Hellfire Missile · Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:46 am

space why did you hammer think again?

wait i think i was v/la at the time

why couldn't we have gone for a no lynch?

Hellfire Missile · Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:50 am

In post 920, HowardRoark wrote:@The little bit of recent, increased-content posts by Hellfire Missile are concerning but also minor.
Need to see what, if anything
, Hellfire Missile has to say.

Hellfire Missile · Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:51 am

In post 920, HowardRoark wrote:@Sobolev Space: There are little things that give me reason to question yournalignment, much like your concerns expressed earlier about me and Joshz (on phone so being lazy aboug finding and referencing post) with the N1 kill that I feel also apply to you. The little bit of recent, increased-content posts by Hellfire Missile are concerning but also minor. Need to see what, if anything, Hellfire Missile has to say.

Why are more "increased-content"(I don't see anything) concerning?

Hellfire Missile · Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:54 am

In post 909, HowardRoark wrote:There was no traction with Hellfire Missile, despite both Sobolev Space and I considering a lynch there and switched to me once Huntress gave him the opportunity. Scum.

I don't understand. Who's he?

Hellfire Missile · Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:57 am

In post 908, Sobolev Space wrote: Posts 873, 875, 877 from HM read like he's trying to distance himself from the Sequencer lynch and are a bit suspicious. I think he sees being on a townie lynch as scummy and wants to get towncred from these posts.
2. HM is much harder to read than Howard and ThinkBig. I disagree with most of the arguments he's provided but can't decipher if its because he's pushing an agenda or just newbishness. This gives a benefit even if he flips town. I think if lylo is me Howard ThinkBig then by putting pressure on Howard/ThinkBig (like we've seen the past couple of pages) and going through their ISOs will give me enough info to get a good guess of who is scum. If lylo is me, HM, someone else I'm not sure if I could do better than 50/50 however.

joy

i didn't realize lynches would go by so quickly, probably because it was/is the first time i actually made it past d1/d2
I didn't say (i guess you thought) that being on a townie lynch was scummy, but you could interpret that in a way..
Sounds flimsy but that's all i have

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #928 (isolation #165) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:13 am

In post 927, HowardRoark wrote:(On phone) Hellfire Missile's self-vote question and expression of experience, but lack of substantive effort have me scratching my head

what?
What self vote and experience

lack of effort due to lack of reads? (if so then its not for the effort of trying)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #929 (isolation #166) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:20 am

In post 927, HowardRoark wrote:@Hellfire Missile: What was quick about the lynches?

Everything went by so quick even though it was 3 days

idk what happened

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #932 (isolation #167) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:52 am

In post 931, HowardRoark wrote:880 "Would you like me to self vote?"
900 "i work much better with AtE's than well whatever you guys did/are doing"
In post 925, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 909, HowardRoark wrote:There was no traction with Hellfire Missile, despite both Sobolev Space and I considering a lynch there and switched to me once Huntress gave him the opportunity. Scum.
I don't understand. Who's he?
Looking at 909, it's easy to see that I was talking about ThinkBig.

@Sobolev Space: First forum mafia game does not mean you aren't intelligent and aren't capable of playing a smart game. Don't want to wreck your question, but it reads very scummy.

At this point I'm almost ready to throw out a vote and "good game" because I'm not sure that I can determine who's got me fooled.

i wanted to die at that point

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #937 (isolation #168) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:26 am

was the reason why yall never voted for me because there were other scummier players?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #939 (isolation #169) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:53 am

In post 913, Sobolev Space wrote:I think the n1 evidence is overwhelmingly against him. Howard, aside from a couple recent concerns which weren't a big deal, has been playing pretty townie the whole game IMO.

I'm pretty sure that mafia was/are trying to frame me for being a noob. Of course, i could have not known that he was a cop and so i didnt nk him, which would fit perfectly with me, if intentional

if unintentional then i guess it all worked out to their favor

(this feels weird. should i be taking posts from some time ago and replying to them?)

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #942 (isolation #170) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:47 am

In post 940, HowardRoark wrote:I'm going back through Sobolev Space again to build a case. I've tried with Hellfire Missile but there's just nothing.

I'd say that if i was a good player that it would be good
but im not
so that's shit

Hellfire Missile · Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:03 am

ya know, what i've just noticed (pardon my shitty lack of skills) but no one has voted for howard
is it because he's a good player? or has no one noticed him

Hellfire Missile · Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:08 am

In post 949, Hellfire Missile wrote:ya know, what i've just noticed (pardon my shitty lack of skills) but no one has voted for howard
is it because he's a good player? or has no one noticed him

only time someone voted was huntress, once
i don't know actually

Hellfire Missile · Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:04 am

In post 952, Xalxe wrote:
Do you ever just sit outside at night, look up at the stars, and know basically nothing about the world you live in?
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ye

Hellfire Missile · Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:06 am

sigh

i
think its..
oh god i hope that im right

Hellfire Missile · Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:07 am

space

Hellfire Missile · Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:08 am

15 hours left, wont be here

im sorry town (if wrong)''
ah gad
VOTE: Sobolev Space
im sorry
i just dont have anymore time.

Hellfire Missile · Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:09 am

sorry for trash gameplay
i hope im not wrong
im going with what i feel
just disregard my intelligence
sigh
please

Hellfire Missile · Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:10 am

here it is
the moment of truth (later i guess)
ah shit
nope
i'm not going back i'm sorry i should've waited for yall to check in but im sorry just no time

Hellfire Missile · Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:20 pm

In post 959, Sobolev Space wrote:VOTE: Hellfire Missile

If Howard is scum he can hammer me and game is already over. If he's town then by PoE HM is scum.

I'll be pretty available for the next couple of hours so if Howard or HM have any questions just ask and I'll try to get back to you within an hour.

I hate this
what if he's scum
and we're both town
so then
he wins either way
if he's town
then you're scum
but he may think that i'm scum
so either way this is a massive cluster of fuckery

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #962 (isolation #180) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:10 pm

In post 961, Sobolev Space wrote:I mean yeah if he's scum he can win now. When you voted for me the possibility of lynching Howard went out the window.

for you or for me?
and why?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #966 (isolation #181) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:20 am

damn it

well i'm town

gg

maybe it was howard, slipping under the radar

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #967 (isolation #182) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:21 am

damn it i'm sorry town :/

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #972 (isolation #183) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:40 am

how

why wasn't there a dead thread
isnt there always supposted to be a dead thread

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #974 (isolation #184) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:56 am

tips for me?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #979 (isolation #185) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:33 am

In post 975, Human Sequencer wrote:look at every post you see and ask yourself
'is this post more likely to come from town or scum?'
and
'what's the motivation behind this post?'

honestly
i saw everyone being motivated by a town win

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #981 (isolation #186) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:25 am

In post 980, Xalxe wrote:Not that this is all that necessary but...

Hellfire Missile,
Vanilla Townie
, Lynched Day 4

Mafia Team (HowardRoark and Jackel98)
win!

Scum Topic

what happened to dead thread

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #989 (isolation #187) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:02 am

In post 988, Huntress wrote:
@ HM:
I think you've got good instincts.

even though i was wrong?

Hellfire Missile · Post Post #993 (isolation #188) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:33 am

In post 991, Joshz wrote:
In post 985, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 984, Joshz wrote:Town deserved to lose.

I'll keep the salt out and leave it at that. Hellfire, if you want to learn try two things: get a game with better ics or hydra with a good player if someone is willing. Watch and learn from them. Hydra will really help you improve if a good player is willing.

This'll probs be my last ms post so bye.
josh no

watching this game i didn't get the HS or josh wagons at all but i was barely following
;{

good that you didn't leave

c: