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No it was psychological pressure.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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@Muffin: Your reads on Chk and CJ I can see but I have yet to understand you ruling out Toro.
Are you actually saying you believe that scum-Snarky couldn't voice suspicion of a scum buddy on the way out??
Either way, all we need is for one of Chk/CJ to flip scum with your push and it will do alot to ease my mind concerning your alignment.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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One of these three cannot be scum: Chk, CJ, Toro
Our remaining scum will be found there, all things being equal.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Snarky:
1) Protected the Chk slot.
2) Bussed the CJ slot but only in response to a weird "obliged" case due to CJ not having an reads on our scum!
3) Bussed the Toro slot shortly before his death when under pressure of being vigged.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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popsofctown wrote:The main reason I'm voting you and don't feel like re-examining it is that you pre-emptively claimed VT. When you wreck protocol it hurts the game chkflip. The PoE power of the masons is totally dilluted if you claim VT and then expect us to leave you alive and lynch someone else. DK is such an imbecile, I don't expect better from him, but I've played with you before and believe you should know better. It [preemptive claiming] forces our hand towards lynching you to regain setup advantage. scumchkflip seems more likely to screw the town like this to save his neck than townchkflip does, but really you'll win more mafia games if you avoid doing that with either alignment. L-1, player willing to hammer, claim. You should know that by now.
This too but with a slight unspecified reservation.
Ok sorry, revise my statement about Toro to: "He bussed him when under heavy suspicion of being scum".I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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See that makes me see Toro as very likely scum.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Toro was under obvious pressure as the vig target, Snarky saw that and threw him under the bus. I mean that makes alot of sense. I don't see any reason whatsoever to rule out Toro as scum for that.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Ok please link me because I would love to rule out Toro. It will mean we've caught our last two scum.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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The following has been logged:
A) CJ being out in the Twilight Zone with his vote and scum list
B) Chkflip being willing to hammer Toro
@Toro: What is your view on Chkflip?I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Ya I thought he was joking too. That was my small unspecified reservation.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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zMuffinMan wrote: No, LK. Bad, LK. He started pushing a Toro vig way, way, way before he was under any "pressure" as far as I can tell, but I briefly skimmed 16-20 last night so I may have missed where he came under this "pressure".
No muffin no. I know what you are talking about now, I looked it up.
Remember you and I talked about how I would agree to vig Toro and BAMMO out pops Snarky saying he wanted to vig Toro. This implicates both Snarky and Toro as scum.
Here is the post: Snarky _Pops_Up
Check 2 posts later for my reaction and further explanation supporting the Snarky-Toro link.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Wow ya he wasn't joking there either. Obvious alignment obsession.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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popsofctown wrote:LK, you're being inaccurate, or at the least confusing, when you say Snarky was under serious pressure of being vigged so then he bussed Toro.
I took that back (see the post below when you frist mentioned that) and it is not necessary to my point anyway.
Although your english was so unclear that in most of your posts I can't tell whether you're saying Toro was in vig danger or Snarky was in vig danger.
We can all agree Toro was in vig danger.
That post you referenced doesn't implicate Toro. It's the contrary if anything. It's all bite and no bark. He does crap to actually accumulate any cred from directing the vig to Toro, but he does make the vig more likely to kill Toro.
Being "twisty" is part of his nature as scum (apparently since he flipped). He clearly "votes" for the Toro vig. You can't get a better bus than that.
No one is going back through the thread and exonerating Snarky because he weakly pushed the vig to Toro. If anything, he's shirking responsibility for Toro's death.
Incorrect. Look closely at the bottom of the post. He isclearlytrying to show an "I'm a leader on this" attitude towards the Toro vig.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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What prompted this? Look only a few posts up. It was me and muffin agreeing to vig Toro.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Arch is fail. The rest of your list is fine.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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zMuffinMan wrote:
The next 80 posts was you pushing for a DK vig, until finally Snarky posts something and you jump back on him while supporting the idea of a Toro vig.
Incorrect. You and I spoke about vigging Toro and I agreed, THEN SNarky jumps and and says he wants to vig toro (remember a vig is instant death). Snarky was in my evil four list all along. It just became clear to me what that list was once I realized you were town. But that being said your "Arch is a good lynch" is horribad. I don't think you read through enough.
The whole "zomg you vigged Snarky!!?!?!?" to the "Well, you had us fooled, Snarky" before his flip was just meh.
My thought porcesses:
1) Pops first claims vig and I think she is lying. I state as such.
2) I'm like "OH CRAP ITS A TARP"
3) I immediately posted the "zomg you vigged snarky"
4) "You had us fooled snarky" was also part of the tarp
You can't possibly state that somehow I wasn't clear on Snarky being a suspect when I clearly listed 3 scum in a list of 4 of which Snarky was one but I think you realize that which is good.
I'm still not following how immediately after Snarky's flip you thought Toro was a good lynch (you and Arch, actually). Your push to keep Toro under suspicion in recent pages is just bad. It looks far more likely that Snarky was trying to get a vig going on Toro because he's town. All I've seen from you is "it's possible he's bussing" but it really makes no sense to assume he's bussing when it's far more likely he wanted a townie to be vigged.
Nope. He saw that Toro WAS the vig and immediately tried to get town cred by saying he wanted it too. Remember the vig is out of his hands and is instant death.
Also the lack of explanation as to why his vote "needs" to be on Toro.
Your Arch case is fail but this is a good question.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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I went to sleep and just woke up. I DO have a detailed case on you which is now forthcoming. A large part if it is the post I indicated during the "Kumbaya" period.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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1) Post #157 he enters and Votes Spad for aggressive tunnelling. This post is absolutely horribad and is to be held suspect.
2) In that post he fails to have any reads on our known scum. I then call him on it and he instantly provides a full scum read on Snarky. He later states to contradictory reasons why this happened:
A) He lost his notes and B) He had no notes because "there was nothing scummy or townie in any of Snarky's posts"!? What?? First of all A contradicts B and B is like sort of impossible.
There is something fishy going on with that. My best theory is that he initially tried to get away with not posting reads for Snarky (possibly he left him for last because he was one of his scum partners and then got rushed or any number of other reasons like it was accidental) and when called on it realized how bad it would look and felt forced to make a strong scum bussing case. Snarky then replied in-kind and even stated himself that CJ provided the case because he was "obliged" to by my calling him out on it.
3) Post #182 is screaming screaming scum and will be dissected below:
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If wedolynch DKand he flips, Spadille and Snarky will practically be confirmed scum for me.Town
This is setting up mislynches based on a town flip. This is horribad. I will also point out that here he prob knows that DK is town as well as Spad and his real target is Spad. His real motive here is to get both DK and Spad lynched while bussing Snarky for town cred.
As for the day-vig the L-1 issue... I don't know. I think that it'd
a) Be a 75% chance of wasting a Town-oriented Vig kill,
b) Extend the day further than it would have to, possibly causing more inactivity and prodding, and/or
c) Possibly be manipulated by scum in that they could kill whomever they wanted, anonymously (25% chance).
Overall, I think the day Vig should be used at the discretion of the holder.Maybe if the one-shot were to claim on D3, when we can decide for them who to kill, as a second vote? Then it's no longer anonymous, and likely lessens the chance of hitting Town from the kill.
Scum fear the vig and this delay to D3 and all the fear mongering over the vig is defnitely +scum. He continues to heavily encourage the delay of the vig and continues to fear monger over it in further posts but there is no need to belabor this point. He wasstronglyanti-vig.
4) Says doesn't know how scum play (smiley). This post just looks really weird. Quoted below for clarifcation:
cjdrum wrote:"Once we discover that the scum has the vig by them using it, how does that harm the Town?"
"Town's already been harmed."
"What makes you think the scum would have already used the vig??"
Well... The original question criteria?
And I don't know exactly how scum behaviour would differ, because I don't know how scum behavior is normally
This looks like scum obfuscation and sort of alignment obsession really.
5) He has spewed forth so much crapologic trying to discourage the vig that he ultimately plays the newbie card in his defense to explain it.
6) He calls for the Masons to claim. I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY think this guy is actively Mason hunting based on his suspicions and votes. This "Masons should claim" theory just reinforces that idea.
7)His vote and suspect list ishorribadright now. He is out in the Twilight Zone which is a common trait of scum when the suspect list gets really tight like it is now.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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CJ wrote:What if the Masons were to claim? If we have a group of three people who can confirm each other as Masons, then all of Town will have three confirmeds - rather than three people having two confirmeds.
Umhmm, ya.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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cjdrum wrote: But, a question or two for Low Key:- Are you an Alt account, or played on another forum? You don't seem at first glance like a player in their second game. Especially from that first really long paragraph on your profile...
I have been playing over a period of years.
- Why am I scum and why is Archaist not?
You are scum for the reasons I stated 1-7 in my post. Arch is not because he didn't receive the same role PM as you did.
- WHY TRIPLE POST?
Why whine if it relates to scumhunting? If it was fluff and I was troll-spamming I could understand but bringing this up is like "BFD, get over it :rolleyes:". If anyone else brings it up I'll just quote this reply.
- Where have you disappeared to? I never said to leave completely, I just asked for posting one post at a time, maybe two [/list]
Already answerred this.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Stop coasting and contribute more. Like scum hunting content please.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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How about starting with your list of reads on all players? I see that was requested of you and you ignored it. Get cracking sparky.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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ROFLMAO on your #620 as my case actually agrees with your weaksauce single-reason voting post of CJ. But that's OK just snipe from the sidelines even if it makes no sense. Just let your gut run away with you and coast.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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C'mon. Have you read my case or just knee-jerked reacted on it? The point where we obviously agreeISmy #3 which reads:
Scum fear the vig and this delay to D3 and all theis defnitely +scum.fear mongeringover the vigHe continues to heavily encourage the delay of the vig and continues toin further posts but there is no need to belabor this point. He was strongly anti-vig.fear mongerover it
So lets stick to reality and the facts.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Btw, its amazing how our D1 here feels so much like LYLO normally does.
We have guaranteed scum in this list: CJ, Chkflip, Toro
If everything is as it appears, both our scum reside in this list.
I know Muffin suspects me and I suspect him as well if that list fails. What we share in common is our calling out of Snarky early (and at least for me often). If we can just hit scum today with Muffin and I agreeing, we will auto-win as town.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Well, I agree with your overall reasoning in #628 but I would ask you to make the same deal with me on DK (which I agreed to) but with Arch instead.
For the moment, removing Arch and myself, who would your scum suspects be?
(I say remove myself because I have done the same for you)I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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I would also like to see Toro comment on the goings on in the last half of the day and I would like him to answer the query which I have outstanding to him.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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zMuffinMan wrote:LK wrote:For the moment, removing Arch and myself, who would your scum suspects be?
(I say remove myself because I have done the same for you)
I don't think you should be 'removing' me if I'm still a suspect of yours.
You're asking an insignificant question. The only player I'd be willing to rule out altogether as scum is pops. After that, there are varying degrees of likelihood, but I can't just rule out certain players and ignore them for no reason, so why does it matter what I'd do if I 'removed' you and Arch? You're still in the game. As long as you're in the game, I'll be suspicious of you until I see reason not to be.
If you check my list, you will see that I have placed you in the "unconfirmed town" section because you are probably town. I am suspicious of you too but definitely not TODAY. If we can both hit scum TODAY you will be confirmed town and we auto-win.
Look we both called out Snarky. I agreed with your early reads and your stance on DK and Toro. Once I realized that you were probably town, everything opened up. You are not a scum suspect for today at all. You only become a current suspect if and when the short list fails.
So who are your top suspects apart from Arch and myself?
And look, on Arch you gotta trust me on this. He's not scum. The same way I trusted you that DK was not scum.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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@Pops re: Snarky -- Good job btw. But ya he had no way to know that.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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@Muffin: You have[/b] failed in your read of this game if those are your 3 scum suspects.seriously
Serious question: ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!?
Seriously, is that a joke??I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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@All: (and you know who you are) Should we just open things up and lynch Muffin right now?I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Hahahaah well if I get the green light there won't need to be a case -- its auto-lynch and immediately.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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But I will say Muffin that your reads are SCUMTASTIC * 1E+06.
You pretty much HAVE to be scum here.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Although there is one post in particular from you that has been bugging me. Its your "scum reads" (which I thought you meant in an entirely different way) where you leave Snarky off as a distant last candidate.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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@Spad: Please tell me this IN ALL HONESTY, what do you think of Muffin's 3 scum suspects. Look if you want me to drop it I will but I REALLY REALLY REALLY think he is scum here and we need to lynch him right now.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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@Pops: I explained how the Snarky part was a bus. Don't forget he wanted DK and Spad lynched first before anyone got to Snarky.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Oh and btw MoI is far more logical than I, but I think I can read him when he's scum or town.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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I'm just not buying your reads could be so bad Muffin but I don't have a choice in the matter. Sorry I couldn't do better this game.
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I am not claiming mason but I am town aligned. Do you want me to name them?I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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@Spad: I am saying that Muffin needs to be lynched and we have the power to do it immediately.
I'll post the post from Muffin that now implicates him as scum in my mind. Please hold.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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zMuffinMan wrote:What really doesn't sit well with me about the DK wagon is the people on it.
There's got to be 2 scum on it, and since I have town reads on 3 of the players not on the wagon, the only possible off-wagon scum I'm considering are cj/chk(dj) and I think only one of them is scum.
Toro makes sense as scum. LK, spad and Arch also make sense. Snake is just meh.Snarky is less suspicious purely because he put effort into making a case, and as much as I disagree with it, I can see where he's coming from.
I think his analysis is scumtastic and he is really soft-defending Snarky here. I'm just posting this for the record.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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And just in case it gets lost, I have a query out in #661.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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The fact that Muffin now waffles so hard on Toro has bothered me alot. Both Muffin and Pops agree on Toro but I have pointed out how Toro is clearly implicated by Snarky as a scum partner twice.
Right now Muffin should have been agreeing with me on the short list but instead he pulls a scum list out of his posterior. Sorry just my take on it.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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You never specifically addressed my response to your original post. I DID respond to that and yes I DO clearly show how Snarkytwicehas scum motivation for bussing Toro. You have not responded to my specific points.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Spadille wrote:No, I'm interested that you answer these questions: "chkflip and zMuffinMan went to mars, who will be your next scum pick?"
It is either Toro or CJ.
Why are you suspicious of people who doesn't follow your quest?
I am suspicious of people who suspect people that are clearly town aligned.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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@Muffin: If you are town you will try and figure out why I'm declaring you as scum and how I could come to such a conclusion. When you have done that we can work together to lynch scum today. Otherwise I only want your lynch.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Well it SHOULD and that's why I want you lynched.
Requested quote forthcoming.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Spadille wrote:chkflip wrote:That was classy. And uhh... fuck you, too?
Yes, I like your answer. Lol, I just wanted some lulz between Muffin's and LK's conversation. XD Thank you for being sport about it though. Fuck you.
@LK You are suspicious of Muffin for defending Snarky and you still would like to work with him? How will his attempt at figuring out will derail your scum read against him?
I'm saying that NOW that he has gone all scumtastic with his scum suspects, THAT post looks especially bad. I misunderstood that post when I first saw it back then.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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If he could read the dang thread and figure out what is actually going freaking on and admit it, then we could work together but I don't think he realized the true state of affairs and now he's caught.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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I mean you're right -- I just don't think he realized anyone else would be so on to him.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Well Snarky bussing Toro twice is plausible then and no reason to rule Toro out.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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The two busses on Toro from Snarky are (in order):
1) As soon as he sees that Muffin and I have agreed to vig Toro he comes in and votes Toto for the vig. That is town cred for an impending death.
2) He does it again when it looks like the vig has been placed and will be incoming.
People are actually giving Snarky credit for implicating Toro as if it couldn't be a bus. That just isn't true. It could be a bus.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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I was asked if I was claiming mason. Wth do you want me to say. I'm not claiming mason. I'm claiming town aligned, that's it.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Ok, well if Toro isn't rules out then fine. The short list is now:
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No I wasn't and that is explained in #661.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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That's the only pro-town response when asked about one's alignment as a non-power role.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Or you could be a power role and just not claiming it.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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Ok the thread is getting a little confusing. I linked how Snarky-Toro was aligned by bussing for you. I think Muffin is scum because he didn't think anyone would know the truth and he should lbe immediately auto-lynched.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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I am about to name the masons here...I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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I don't need to claim them to name them.I realized that I was planting seeds, and that it was important to stay low-key, because once you say, 'I've got it' or 'This is it,' then resistance starts to build. But, if you start giving away seeds, people will claim their seeds. Some nurture them and grow them, and that makes a foundational change.-
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