Because you're scum, obviously.Eek wrote:VOTE: DeathRowKitty
He knows why.
If we wagon fast enough, we might be able to lynch him before he's done with his shower
He was wayyyyyy overaggressive for the RVS.Xine wrote:Actually it does, I see him(?) as the most obv town player so far. so, please, do explain.
This is where I would normally take a quick look back to completed games to see if this is consistent with the person's normal play, but [Redacted] doesn't have any games I can look up for that purpose (alt using an abrasive playstyle?). It wouldn't surprise me at this point if this turned out just to be his playstyle.[Redacted] wrote:Your first post was a completely random vote that ignored everything happening in the thread and your next one is yet another waste of space avoiding commenting on anything happening in the game. Place a real vote, give a read, contribute in some way or die.
Unvote; Vote: Nerus
It's the sound a frog makes. Why do you bring up this word? Does it have some sort of special meaning?Nathanael wrote:PS: deathrowkitty, could you please explain what "Ribbit" means?
Hello, I'm DRK and I'm on LA until the 14th. Nice to meet you too.Xine wrote:DRK, we are all still waiting on your explanation...
How far into the game would you say we have to be before it's okay to use meta?Hiraki wrote:Let's not use meta on Page 3 please.
What do you mean when you call Llama's metagaming 'a simple mistake'?SC wrote:Llama's metagaming makes me nervous, but that could easily be a simple mistake, especially when compared to Neruz deciding to BACK metagaming as a viable strategy for reasons I consider tenuous at best.
Unvote. Vote: Neruz
Self-meta defense this early is awkward. Self-meta is generally the last resort of a desperate townie, not an early way to alleviate suspicion. It's excusable-ish since Llamarble did specifically call him out on some sort of meta-based argument, but I still don't like it.GreyICE wrote:P.S. Llamarble, please don't base everything on meta. Go browse through my current games linked on my Wiki, if you care to I think it's missing a few, but there's most there.
However, I do like GreyICE's point on his scumbuddy here. It was nice of him to point it out.GreyICE wrote:Nathaniel's posts are bringing tear's to everyone's eyes. I don't even know what the garbage he calls an ISO is supposed to be.
There are 2 bold claims in your first sentence, both of which are blatantly false. If you're confident enough in them to accuse me of them in that tone but not useful enough to actually check if they're correct (especially since checking one of them would have required no more than fully reading the post you were quoting), I plan on ignoring everything you say for the rest of the game. Stop PMSing and actually play.[Redacted] wrote:What the bloody hell is this nonsense, your here posting on a daily basis but your not going to answer questions until the 14th? Either bugger off for your V/LA or play the game, waiting to see how the game develops before answering questions seems a game plan that consists of combines the worst of coasting and active lurking.
You see that thing below where you type up posts that says "Display posts by user:" with a dropdown menu? Select your name and click "Go". That's your iso. At the time of my posting about it, your iso contained (IIRC) 5 posts, 4 of which contained votes, and very scarce content to justify 3 quick vote switches.Nathanael wrote:Since you seem to agree with Grey's point, but I can't understand it (what is that "ISO"-stuff you are talking about?), how about you explain it to me in your words. what exactly was Grey's point?
GreyICE, I'd like you to NOT answer this question for him, since I want to know what DRK agrees with exactly.
Yeahhhhh, I'm definitely liking the idea of a Nathanael wagon here. I don't see any town motivation here.Nathanael wrote:Hey Hiraki. I'm Nathanael. I'm fine and I am happy to meet you in this cool game. I hope you are well too.
I think it would improve the relationship between us a lot if we just were honest to each other so I'll ask you a little question: Are you scum?
I'd appreciate your sincerity.
QFT....especially the facepalmMME wrote:/facepalmbgg1996 wrote:Also, if I'm not mistaken, this will be the first time I've actually played as a vanilla townie. (In my more inexperienced games, all of the roles had an ability)
Good luck using meta on me.
I'm not able to meta you right now (at friends on mafiascum (yeah, I know...)), but I'm inclined to believe this statement, lol.
His explanation for his vote is OMGUS + changes votes easily. Not sure how that could possibly convince you of anything.Greedling wrote:I can support this. I was suspecting you tell now as just bullrushing Xine lynch, but this makes sense. unvote vote Xinebgg1996 wrote:Around the middle-end of 2009 I played a few games on a rather inexperienced site. A bit after that I played a newbie game on this site as a... Roleblocker? It was a mafia role, I remember. I was about to lose, but I won because the time ran out.Ant_to_the_max wrote: bgg1996 what is your experience playing Mafia?
The reason I voted Xine? There isn't much of one. I mainly voted him because he said I was mafia. I am a good guy. I didn't need much of a reason to change votes. I voted My Milked Eek originally for almost no reason at all. A random vote, I thought was best at the time.
Also, yes. I get rather defensive. I always do.
Okay, now I'm not so sure he's town. Ignore my earlier agreement with MME. (inb4 bgg-Greedling-Nathanael scum team?)bgg1996 wrote:Does this mafia even have roles other than regular townies and mafia members?
Just to clarify: are you saying I'm scum for having voted [Redacted]? If so, why is that scummy?Xine wrote:I'm even more sure about GreyICE being scum, as sure about DRK, and less sure on bgg, no new scum-spects.
The case on [Redacted] was a joke vote, so it's safe to assume this is purely a random vote.Nathanael, Vote 1 wrote:VOTE: [Redacted]
I agree with the case on him.
Looking like a not-so-random vote.Nathanael, Vote 2 wrote:UNVOTE: VOTE: GreyICE, for no-lynching.GreyICE wrote: What can I say, I'm lucky that way. Oh well.
Vote: No Lynch
Lets be friends!
This came 5 posts after his vote on GreyICE and is once again random. The only thing that changed between those two posts is that Greedling's new GreyICE vote became a matter of contention (2 votes for Greedling, 1 vote for someone for voting for Greedling). Either his vote on Hiraki was meaningless (in which case why bother casting it?) or I could possibly see nervous scum moving away from controversy.Nathanael, Vote 3 wrote:UNVOTE: VOTE: DeathRowKitty, for fucking with my brain. (What does "Ribbit" mean? or did I just get something wrong?)
Oh, look, a serious wagon that I'm going to arbitrarily hop onto while distracting you by talking about other stuff!Nathanael, Vote 4 wrote:UNVOTE: VOTE: Xine. wagon go go go!
PS: deathrowkitty, could you please explain what "Ribbit" means?
Nothing pokes quite like a vote! So how 'bout it? Nathanael wagon?Neruz wrote:Reasonable chance of being scum, probably worth poking a bit, although Hiraki's attempts so far have met with consummate failure.
But one vote won't make scum crumble and fold.Neruz wrote:You clearly have Nath covered my man; no reason to tunnel on anyone is there :3
Uhhh...the fact that you're playing differently than you did in the game I've seen you in as town and in the game I just did a brief skim of your iso from in which you were also town?GreyICE wrote:Well I wouldn't mind if you shared, sure. What's the juicy tidbit of meta awesomeness that proves that I'm scum?
That's perfectly reasonable....except you unvoted and re-random voted afterwards. Was voting someone for no lynch suddenly not better than a random vote?Nathanael wrote:Do you seriously not think that voting someone for voting No Lynch in RVS is at least better than a randomvoting (you would LOVE this post if that's really what you are saying)? I'll explain again. it is quite simple. assume EVERYBODY did the same thing: what would we get? a no lynch and no information.
You seem quite sure that bgg is town. I agree that he probably is, but basing a case off of him being easy-to-wagon newbtown? Not seeing it.Nathanael wrote:The major reason for me to believe Xine to be scum is post 121: I really see this as blatant opportunism on the easiest wagon (a newbtown.) What I didn't like especially about this post is the delay between bgg's vote on Xine and Xine's response. To me this really indicates scum wanting to first check the general atmosphere before trying to push the wagon.
Obligatory "lining up lynches" comment. Especially with you not having a vote out, it seems shady to me that you're sitting back and calling people on the main wagon potentially scummy without actually trying to push a lynch anywhere else.ATTM wrote:If bgg is our lynch for today and he does flip town, I am thinking Surprise_Carcinogen and Hiraki might be scum.
Allow me to reword. ITT, GreyICE fails at comprehending post 232.GreyICE wrote:She's tired? Oh come on. She's leaving her vote on a wagon that she thinks is being lead by scum?DeathRowKitty wrote:ITT, GreyICE ignores post 232.
She is tired, because she slipped that badly. If you think scum's leading the wagon, you don't hop on. On the other hand, if you want to chain mislynches...
ITT, GreyICE fails at recognizing passive-aggressive behavior, fails at reading post 80, and fails at reading my gender. (Also, passive-aggressiveness is a personality trait more than an alignment tell ftr. I'm sometimes passive-aggressive simply because that's what I'm normally like, but the post you quoted was not an example of being passive-aggressive.)GreyICE wrote:And, by the way Neruz, don't confuse passive-aggressive with aggressive. Passive-aggressive is where you bait people into attacks by generally making actions that are not overtly aggressive, but incite aggression. That's a scum tell, because it is a good way to damage logical processes by creating emotional appeals that generally screw up wagons. General passive aggressive posting is very, very scummy.
To wit:
Redacted was aggressive, DRK was passive aggressive. Called on the lurking, the general response has been to sit around and lob dirt bombs at people.DeathRowKitty wrote:There are 2 bold claims in your first sentence, both of which are blatantly false. If you're confident enough in them to accuse me of them in that tone but not useful enough to actually check if they're correct (especially since checking one of them would have required no more than fully reading the post you were quoting), I plan on ignoring everything you say for the rest of the game. Stop PMSing and actually play.[Redacted] wrote:What the bloody hell is this nonsense, your here posting on a daily basis but your not going to answer questions until the 14th? Either bugger off for your V/LA or play the game, waiting to see how the game develops before answering questions seems a game plan that consists of combines the worst of coasting and active lurking.
The best part? Her vote is on Redacted for all of today while calling everyone scum. But she NEVER EVEN QUESTIONS HIM AGAIN. It's like she's given up on catching scum, and given up on convincing anyone she's caught scum. Why hasn't she moved the vote or done anything with it? Doesn't want to put another scum vote on the bgg wagon until it gets close to deadline.
Given that last bit, she's most likely the scumbuddy of Xine-scum.
You sure know how to make a guy feel special[Redacted] wrote:I still disagree with a BGG lynch atm and will be making a post about DRK on Monday
This is going to sound a bit nit-picky, buuuuut.....does it bother anyone else that his list of reads isNathanael wrote:scum: Xine
scummy: DeathRowKitty, Surprise_Carcinogen
null: Greedling, [Redacted], My Milked Eek, Ant_to_the_max, Llamarble, Neruz
townish: GreyICE, Hiraki
town: bgg1996]
If it's easier for him to find town reads in this game than scum reads, then why does he have the same number of town and scum reads. Even aside from that, if he's really hunting from process of elimination like he seems to be implying, how is he doing so if he had null reads on literally half of the game?Nathanael wrote:Sometimes it is much easier to go looking for town-reads than for scum-reads. And then you have to find scum based on you town-reads. Well, this is one of those cases.
Damn it Eek, do youMy Milked Eek wrote:Once again, drk++.
I'm not willing to lynch bgg. For one, I did not read anything against him and I do recall that early VT claim, which I believed. So, I'm not voting against him, unless needed to get a lynch in.
Xine has given me some scumvibes during my in-the-coffee-break-iso and I haven't read anything about Neruz.
I do not think it would be viable to go after an ant wagon now. I know why you suggested it, but I think you would also know the result it would lead to tomorrow: status quo. Lynching happens in that small pool of three. Any other suggestion is scummy.
I also think that we should get to a lynch soonish (tomorrow or the day after), regardless of proximity to a deadline.