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Post #86 (isolation #2) » Sun May 09, 2021 10:22 am
Postby Loki Dokie »
In post 81, Hopkirk wrote:anyone on the playerlist you're concerned would quickhammer? obviously quickhammering someone who hasn't posted draws a lot of suspicion and is kind of a death-drawer for scum
Two players who would do it as either alignment fortunately are not in this game but yeah, I’m not voting a non-poster. I literally just found out game started a few minutes ago.
Game started just over 4 hrs ago. I just found out about it, so no evidence of lurking unless you’re going to argue this is GB scum meta? Otherwise, I think it’s dumb.
Game started just over 4 hrs ago. I just found out about it, so no evidence of lurking unless you’re going to argue this is GB scum meta? Otherwise, I think it’s dumb.
Are you reading Andante's reasoning there as hyper-serious?
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Post #137 (isolation #14) » Sun May 09, 2021 11:17 am
Postby Loki Dokie »
Questioning that initial tl on them now. Town generally doesn’t vote a slot immediately after they express a tl on them. Are you actually scum here Flow?
Game started just over 4 hrs ago. I just found out about it, so no evidence of lurking unless you’re going to argue this is GB scum meta? Otherwise, I think it’s dumb.
Are you reading Andante's reasoning there as hyper-serious?
It’s really hard to tell with her.
How is it hard to tell if andante is being serious by saying that he's hoping votes on someone will encourage them to post?
In post 137, Loki Dokie wrote:Questioning that initial tl on them now. Town generally doesn’t vote a slot immediately after they express a tl on them. Are you actually scum here Flow?
Shouldn't it be the other way around, that scum would not want to alienate people who like them, and town wouldn't care?
In my experience no. Why should a townie be sus about a weak tl read on them? But scum has been quick to push me for that. I could obviously be wrong but it’s a really bad take regardless.
In post 137, Loki Dokie wrote:Questioning that initial tl on them now. Town generally doesn’t vote a slot immediately after they express a tl on them. Are you actually scum here Flow?
Town doesn't
usually
:
A. Lie
B. Choose who to defend not based on their scum reads
C. Act suspicious on purpose
In post 137, Loki Dokie wrote:Questioning that initial tl on them now. Town generally doesn’t vote a slot immediately after they express a tl on them. Are you actually scum here Flow?
Town doesn't
usually
:
A. Lie
B. Choose who to defend not based on their scum reads
C. Act suspicious on purpose
He could be scum? I don’t know. I think likely one between bugs and Scamp. Flow is just wrong but bugs is my best guess. I have seen nothing townie from them yet.
I very possibly could be bad at reading you!
Maybe your playstyle as town is just to revolve the game around how people are reading you, I generally see this as a scum trait.
That’s my town meta. Okay, I think I like my vote then.
He could be scum? I don’t know. I think likely one between bugs and Scamp. Flow is just wrong but bugs is my best guess. I have seen nothing townie from them yet.
i'm asking because this reaction reads as though you're assuming town Vander (bad at this would imply he's town) which felt different to your interaction with flow earlier
In post 161, Vanderscamp wrote:Regarding mechanical stuff, I feel like we should not claim neighbor chats until someone flips D1, and then the partner of that person immediately claims that.
Then either all claim D2 or do the same as D1 if the partner of the flipped person dies.
I don't feel extremely strongly about this and am open to other thoughts.
we avoid a d2 massclaim because of the friendly neighbour. optimal move changes based on what we hit d1.
I don’t know what anyone is but I feel pretty good with my vote. I don’t think this is town!bugs. First, they jump on Andante, then a non-poster than me. Where is the actual sorting in any of that?
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Post #174 (isolation #27) » Sun May 09, 2021 11:54 am
Postby Loki Dokie »
In post 171, Hopkirk wrote:so specifically the page 1 vote, what was the issue with it? Given part of your issue was 'first, they jump on Andante' i'm unclear what was bad about the jump on
It’s a combo of both the aggressive jumping on at least three players now, with not much explanation and them trying to direct the game. Town!bugs is far less likely to do that.
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Post #176 (isolation #28) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:05 pm
Postby Loki Dokie »
In post 175, Hopkirk wrote:given they've got less than 80 words and 6 posts i don't get the 'trying to direct the game'. can you lay that out more
They’ve made three pushes that seem oddly aggressive from what I know of town!bugs and they naked voted me after trying to run up a non-poster and then the aggressive rsv sr.
Am I confident on this? No but their naked voting me doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence. I just find it unlikely that all three slots who jumped on me are town. As Scamp was the third vote, that also has them in my suspicions.
In post 175, Hopkirk wrote:given they've got less than 80 words and 6 posts i don't get the 'trying to direct the game'. can you lay that out more
They’ve made three pushes that seem oddly aggressive from what I know of town!bugs and they naked voted me after trying to run up a non-poster and then the aggressive rsv sr.
Am I confident on this? No but their naked voting me doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence. I just find it unlikely that all three slots who jumped on me are town. As Scamp was the third vote, that also has them in my suspicions.
What about bugspray's vote on you was "oddly aggressive?"
I said all three were and that the naked vote on me was suspicious. They just naked voted me and left. Does that scream town to you? Why are you even voting me? You claimed a scumlean but have yet to explain that. When do you plan to do that?
In post 175, Hopkirk wrote:given they've got less than 80 words and 6 posts i don't get the 'trying to direct the game'. can you lay that out more
They’ve made three pushes that seem oddly aggressive from what I know of town!bugs and they naked voted me after trying to run up a non-poster and then the aggressive rsv sr.
Am I confident on this? No but their naked voting me doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence. I just find it unlikely that all three slots who jumped on me are town. As Scamp was the third vote, that also has them in my suspicions.
What about bugspray's vote on you was "oddly aggressive?"
I said all three were and that the naked vote on me was suspicious. They just naked voted me and left. Does that scream town to you? Why are you even voting me? You claimed a scumlean but have yet to explain that. When do you plan to do that?
No, it doesn't scream town to me, I don't think bugspray has been towny.
But it doesn't scream mafia to me either and it's pretty weird that you are this confident about it.
I'm voting you because you are hyper fixated on people who are voting you and your confusion around what andante said didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Andante basically said he was voting someone to get them to talk, and I don't understand what about that is possibly confusing to you, I'm not sure how else you could possibly have interpreted it.
I couldn’t tell, if you’re town here and seriously this bad, I have no words.
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Post #192 (isolation #34) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:37 pm
Postby Loki Dokie »
No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
In post 175, Hopkirk wrote:given they've got less than 80 words and 6 posts i don't get the 'trying to direct the game'. can you lay that out more
They’ve made three pushes that seem oddly aggressive from what I know of town!bugs and they naked voted me after trying to run up a non-poster and then the aggressive rsv sr.
Am I confident on this? No but their naked voting me doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence. I just find it unlikely that all three slots who jumped on me are town. As Scamp was the third vote, that also has them in my suspicions.
What about bugspray's vote on you was "oddly aggressive?"
I said all three were and that the naked vote on me was suspicious. They just naked voted me and left. Does that scream town to you? Why are you even voting me? You claimed a scumlean but have yet to explain that. When do you plan to do that?
No, it doesn't scream town to me, I don't think bugspray has been towny.
But it doesn't scream mafia to me either and it's pretty weird that you are this confident about it.
I'm voting you because you are hyper fixated on people who are voting you and your confusion around what andante said didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Andante basically said he was voting someone to get them to talk, and I don't understand what about that is possibly confusing to you, I'm not sure how else you could possibly have interpreted it.
I couldn’t tell, if you’re town here and seriously this bad, I have no words.
I appreciate it!
What have I said that is bad?
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
You are insisting that I’m lying about not knowing she was serious and I’m not and I have also not made the game about me. But if you actually bothered to read my entire ISO, you probably wouldn’t be saying that. Are you actually trying to sort me or shitpush me because I honestly can’t tell?
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
who said u were scum lmfao. calm down dont get offended now, all i said is that i could be joking, whatever happens in that neighbor talking really doesn't signify. you should know that, that was MY enterance... why would i make a claim like that? anyone with common sense can... yea you get the point.
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
who said u were scum lmfao. calm down dont get offended now, all i said is that i could be joking, whatever happens in that neighbor talking really doesn't signify. you should know that, that was MY enterance... why would i make a claim like that? anyone with common sense can... yea you get the point.
or were u werent talking to me... if u werent then... well that was awkward
No not you the dude who’s voting me for not being a mind reader or getting a joke.
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
I'd be pretty careful about who you are calling bad or idiotic given you have failed to understand the "nuance" of something that I would have expected someone with no mafia experience to grasp.
I'm not scum reading you for not reading minds, I thought you were being overly serious regarding what andante was doing and your push on bugspray seems overly strong.
But you might be in luck regarding my vote now because grandpa seems scummier.
I said your reasoning for voting me was idiotic and I stand by that. No, if I was actually “lucky” no one would be making bs stupid reads on me and yes, I specifically take offence to this post. Knock it off, it’s not impressing me in the slightest. Maybe I should switch my vote to you because I’m supposed to somehow be grateful to you for what exactly?
Yes because you’re reasoning for voting Andante is similar. You’re equating defensivenuss with scumminess which is a really bad reason for sr anyone. I mean if you were right, I’d obviously have to reevaluate but the only players who I think are being possibly scummy this far are you and bugs, so my vote is very likely being on one of you.
I just think both of you are tryharding and being weird about pushes. I don’t know you and if this is scum indicative for you or not, I think it seems atypical for bugs but I’m not willing to bet the game yet on either of those reads but no one else is really pinging me so far.
Yes because you’re reasoning for voting Andante is similar. You’re equating defensivenuss with scumminess which is a really bad reason for sr anyone. I mean if you were right, I’d obviously have to reevaluate but the only players who I think are being possibly scummy this far are you and bugs, so my vote is very likely being on one of you.
I just think both of you are tryharding and being weird about pushes. I don’t know you and if this is scum indicative for you or not, I think it seems atypical for bugs but I’m not willing to bet the game yet on either of those reads but no one else is really pinging me so far.
I agree that if my read was just that andante is scummy for being defensive, that would be pretty bad.
Okay what other reason are you voting her then because that’s all I got out of your reasoning?
Your defence against what I'm saying is that as town, it's normal for you to crumble under pressure.
But why would you expect me to know that since we've never played together?
Why is it scummy for me to look at someone "crumbling" (something you don't disagree with) and then vote you for it?
Why was it such a shock to you that I was serious in being suspicious of that?
Yes because you’re reasoning for voting Andante is similar. You’re equating defensivenuss with scumminess which is a really bad reason for sr anyone. I mean if you were right, I’d obviously have to reevaluate but the only players who I think are being possibly scummy this far are you and bugs, so my vote is very likely being on one of you.
I just think both of you are tryharding and being weird about pushes. I don’t know you and if this is scum indicative for you or not, I think it seems atypical for bugs but I’m not willing to bet the game yet on either of those reads but no one else is really pinging me so far.
I agree that if my read was just that andante is scummy for being defensive, that would be pretty bad.
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Post #305 (isolation #44) » Sun May 09, 2021 2:18 pm
Postby Loki Dokie »
In post 300, Andante wrote:Player List:
Andante - Town
GeorgeBailey
Robert M Hunter
Vanderscamp
flow trap - Town
bugspray
GrandpaMo - Town
Hopkirk - Town
Loki Dokie - Town
is this game really this easy? like... I have 4 TRs/TLs right now
I like this list. I would really like to hear more from Robert and hopefully have GB grace us with his presence ar some point.
In post 298, Andante wrote:I mean, if you want me here 24/7 I can do that... but post count will be insane, I leave so yall have a chance to talk.... so when I return, and am catching up, I see someone going "andante claimed scum in the hood" and I have no clue what follows. So I go. "no. that wasn't me, I'm not even in that hood" cause how else should I respond?
You can respond by going along with it and at least not outing that you are not in that neighbourhood.
If I said I used a ouija board to determine that you were scum, I would not expect townAndante and scumAndante to both react strongly to that, and I generally think that players (regardless of their defensiveness) are more likely to be defensive towards non-cases as scum than town.
I’d get defensive if it was done as a joke, so I think this is suboptimal reasoning really.
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Post #376 (isolation #49) » Mon May 10, 2021 4:35 am
Postby Loki Dokie »
In post 323, Robert M Hunter wrote:Ugh I'm not sure I can explain why I think Loki Dokie is scum very well, but I'll try. I feel like his pushes are artificial. They're superficial, aggressive, but unfocused. A buckshot approach.
Vanderscamp is scum for the same reason.
If Vanders actually flips scum, I think Robert could be a buddy.
Because this is seriously the most dafuq thing I’ve read so far in this game.
In post 323, Robert M Hunter wrote:Ugh I'm not sure I can explain why I think Loki Dokie is scum very well, but I'll try. I feel like his pushes are artificial. They're superficial, aggressive, but unfocused. A buckshot approach.
Vanderscamp is scum for the same reason.
So you think it's Loki and Vander?
Like it’s insulting enough to badly read me but this is beyond insane.
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.
fair enough. still could have checked if i was new tho!
Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
u rlly did smh im still mad its okie tho<3
I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?
I'd 100% think that. you have no idea the kinds of accusations people have been throwing at me lately in games, it's usually how I end up claiming so fast most games :/
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.
Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?
i am actually going to give vander townpings for this. this is actually towny because i had the same thought about andante and i genuinely did expect a better reaction from andante especially considering it was me LOL. and i was even gonna point out "bad rxn" but i gave andante another chance without the pressure. but having that same intuitive thought as me eh i can see why vander is in a town mindset
In post 282, Andante wrote:I've told you. I hate any number of votes on me always. it's the exact same thing... I was caught off guard for grandpa
caught offgaurd by me? smh! shame on you.
also i agree with this. this needs more pressure
VOTE: loki
Where are the actual good players in this game? I need to be far more critical of playerlists in the future. smdh