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Post #2768 (isolation #0 ) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:07 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:07 pm
One time chamber and I got paired at random.
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Post #2770 (isolation #1 ) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:53 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:53 pm
is this the murlock shaman deck that I lost to 4 times last night or something else?
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Post #2777 (isolation #2 ) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:54 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:54 am
His list is missing some very necessary things like mad scientist.
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Post #2792 (isolation #3 ) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:58 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:58 am
My suggestion was basically that I think Rag is a tech card against a meta that doesnt exist right now and I think drake is very out of place. I would love some more defensive minions in those slots. Belcher would be ideal for the drake slot, but belcher is also naxx. I would think two chow would be nice in the list instead of those cards normally, except for freeze mage that really runs counter to your win condition. Maybe something like deathlord?
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Post #2794 (isolation #4 ) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:42 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:42 am
so is deathlord.........
fuck.
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Post #2797 (isolation #5 ) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:48 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:48 am
List of playable naxx cards.
Haunted Creeper
Nerubian Egg
Loatheb
Unstable Ghoul
Sludge Belcher
Webspinner
Deathlord
Voidcallerg
Mad Scientist
Death's Bite
Zombie Chow
Dark Cultist
Kel'Thuzad
Shade of Naxxramas
Avenge
Naxx OP.
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Post #2798 (isolation #6 ) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:52 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:52 am
I'm thestatusquo#1904 by the way.
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Post #2800 (isolation #7 ) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:46 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:46 am
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Post #2802 (isolation #8 ) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:10 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:10 am
No, its not.
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Post #2805 (isolation #9 ) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:16 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:16 am
xixo also played feugen/skalaag in druid at Blizzcon iirc.
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Post #2810 (isolation #10 ) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:26 am
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:26 am
I literally never lose to tempo mage with druid.
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Post #2822 (isolation #11 ) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:51 am
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:51 am
Apirant has been a big game changer in that matchup. Historically the reason that its been so poor for druid is because mirror entity was so hard to deal with, but aspirant gives you an absurd card to proc entity, allowing you to then kill their copy and stone rain them. Its hard for them to recover from that.
mage can still win with their better tempo draws, but my experience suggests that the matchup is pretty strongly druid favored. Shrug.
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Post #2827 (isolation #12 ) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:14 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:14 am
I've only ever played one in my shaman builds. drawing a second is pretty bad since you wont be able to play it for like 3 turns.
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Post #2835 (isolation #13 ) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:52 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:52 am
its higher though, the odds of drawing muster in your opening hand are
6.6667% + 6.8966% + 7.1429% =20%
Then on the mulligan its
7.4074% + 7.6923% + 8%
total probability to see it by turn 1: 43.78
Turn one draw adds 7.40, turn two draw adds 7.69, turn three draw adds 8%, meaning they have about 67% chance to draw it by turn three if they hard mulligan for it.
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Post #2837 (isolation #14 ) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:08 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:08 am
Right, this is assuming a hard mulligan. But I suspect that confirmation bias is what causes you to think they get it more often then they should. The reality is just that they'll see it a high percentage of the time.
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Post #2841 (isolation #15 ) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:08 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:08 am
Its a pretty hard deck to play well. It's obviously a lot less strong than it was pre-nerf, and it has different matchups than it once did.
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Post #2843 (isolation #16 ) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:19 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:19 am
I played a lot of patron pre-warsong nerf. It was super hard to play. I haven't played this new iteration (because I don't have gromm and I don't plan on crafting him)
I started playing it at rank 2 with 3 days left in the season. Lost my first 15 games. Lost roughly 75% of my matches til the end of the season. Ended the season at like rank 12 or something absurdly low like that.
But I kept playing it and eventually got my win rate with it up to like 60.
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Post #2846 (isolation #17 ) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:27 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:27 am
Wait, weird decisions are unfun? That's like my favorite part of the game. Thats why oil rogue is like my favorite deck to play.
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Post #2849 (isolation #18 ) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:40 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:40 am
I don't play thalanos or edwin.
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Post #2856 (isolation #19 ) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:01 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:01 am
If you have druid it fits nicely into that deck.
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Post #2876 (isolation #20 ) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:17 am
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by Thestatusquo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:17 am
In post 2865 , BROseidon wrote: Dr. 7 is still the worst card ever.
At least Muster for Bullshit sucks vs Mage.
disagree.
Mysterious challenger is way more annoying to deal with most of the time from pali.
Also, reno is just the most frustrating card to play against ever.
boom doesnt even come close.
In other news I built freezemage. Been winning a lot with it. Not that many warriors.
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Post #2879 (isolation #21 ) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:18 am
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by Thestatusquo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:18 am
Since when was control not viable? Two of the top decks in the pre-reno meta were Control Warrior and handlock. Control was already quite strong.
It doesn't mean "aggro has to kill you in 5 turns" it actually just makes aggro play in a non-aggro style. In a meta with reno pushing for damage is ALWAYS incorrect. It forces aggro decks to play a board control game they're not suited for because they have a better chance of winning that then winning a game where you sell out for damage just to see your opp gain 26 on turn 6.
There's a reason hunter is pretty much stone unplayable right now.
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Post #2881 (isolation #22 ) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:22 am
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by Thestatusquo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:22 am
Like reno fundamentally changes the game because its impossible to play around. Aggressive decks are not suited to trading because their minions are slanted towards maximizing damage and not sticking around very long. Have you ever tried to play board control with leper gnomes and huffers? It doesn't work. At the same time, expecting a deck to kill by turn 5 is a ridiculous burden in this game. If a deck were winning on turn 5 consistently there would be calls to nerf it coming from everyone. The fastest Facehunter deck I've ever played killed on turn 5 MAYBE 15% of the time.
Because of this, Reno just straight nerfs like 40% of the format. It is deeply unhealthy for the game.
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Post #2886 (isolation #23 ) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:26 am
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by Thestatusquo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:26 am
I also prefer to play different decks, but that doesn't mean a meta where aggro is just completely unplayable is healthy.
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Post #2888 (isolation #24 ) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:01 am
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by Thestatusquo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:01 am
It means ladder has decks that all look the same. That's not a good thing.
Also, if you werent making interesting decisions before then you were playing boring decks.
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Post #2896 (isolation #25 ) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:29 am
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by Thestatusquo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:29 am
I have to say, in my freezemage matches finley grabbing a warrior power has been super annoying.
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Post #2898 (isolation #26 ) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:02 am
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by Thestatusquo » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:02 am
Yep.
This is exactly what happened to me. I played pyroblast and opp went finley into armor up into justicar into tank up GGs.
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Post #2922 (isolation #27 ) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:31 am
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:31 am
I don't like deathlord in this deck since you're not doing anything to abuse it.
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Post #2936 (isolation #28 ) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:19 am
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:19 am
How has flare been for you? I feel like I'm seeing way less of both hunter and secret paladin than I used to, as well as freeze mage never being a huge percentage of the field. How frequently is that card just 2 mana: draw a card?
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Post #2937 (isolation #29 ) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:25 am
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:25 am
I'm also lukewarm on explosive trap in this build. Since you're not overly aggressive, the effect isn't that great for you.
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Post #2939 (isolation #30 ) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:28 am
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:28 am
I don't know, I've been seeing almost none of it. Like maybe once every 15-20 matches.
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Post #2941 (isolation #31 ) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:47 am
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:47 am
Shaman, druid (midrange) and reno decks(warlock being the most common) almost exclusively. I would say those archetypes make up roughly 50% of the meta I'm seeing. The rest is in order of frequency: midrange(reno) pali, Rogue, mech/tempo mage, hunter and secret pali.
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Post #2944 (isolation #32 ) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:39 am
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:39 am
This is just 100% unacceptable.
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Post #2946 (isolation #33 ) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:39 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:39 pm
What the fuck is wrong with you people.
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Post #2948 (isolation #34 ) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:55 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:55 pm
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Post #2949 (isolation #35 ) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:31 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:31 am
does anyone have a good reno freeze mage list?
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Post #2951 (isolation #36 ) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:13 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:13 am
I agree. You see so many cards. IMO 2 scientist 2 blocks 2 barrier are mandatory.
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Post #2953 (isolation #37 ) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:32 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:32 am
The ones I'm seeing are basically just not going singleton at all.
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Post #2955 (isolation #38 ) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:42 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:42 am
does it? Like what?
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Post #2959 (isolation #39 ) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:59 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:59 am
I only run 1 Healbot in my regular list.
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Post #2962 (isolation #40 ) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:04 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:04 am
I've had elise cast against me a lot in the last week or so and I've only seen the opp get the golden monkey once, and they lost the next turn. It just seems way too hard to set up. Maybe in a control warrior shell it would be better, I don't know, but people seem to be trying to shoehorn it into all sorts of decks right now and it hasn't seemed very good to me.
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Post #2969 (isolation #41 ) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:31 am
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:31 am
After running reno freeze all of last night I've decided that I like it less than traditional freeze mage. It just seems less consistent and you have to run stinkers like cone of cold which has been consistently unimpressive. The main problem though seems to be that you have to cut cards like the second acolyte of pain which makes the deck more inconsistent and gives it less velocity at drawing to the relevant answers. Not being able to play reno when I needed to only came up once, but the issues like cone of cold just being so much worse than blizzard no 2 and card drawing being worse came up basically every game.
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Post #2973 (isolation #42 ) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:03 am
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:03 am
The list I posted above only has 4 non-answer/non-card draw cards.
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Post #2974 (isolation #43 ) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:03 am
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:03 am
and that's not counting alex or pyroblast as answers, though they can be if you're desperate.
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Post #2976 (isolation #44 ) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:07 am
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:07 am
Is this computer or phone, glork?
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Post #2977 (isolation #45 ) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:11 am
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:11 am
If its on the computer my guess woulD be that you neeD to upDate your graphics carD Drivers.
In the meanwhile, try loaDing up battle.net, clicking on the gear that says game settings:
then reset your user options.
If this is on the phone I've got nothing.
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Post #2980 (isolation #46 ) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:45 am
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:45 am
In post 2978 , AngryPidgeon wrote: In post 2977 , Thestatusquo wrote: If its on the computer my guess woulD be that you neeD to upDate your graphics carD Drivers.
In the meanwhile, try loaDing up battle.net, clicking on the gear that says game settings:
Whats with your D?
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Post #2982 (isolation #47 ) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:09 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:09 pm
If you plan on playing hearthstone at all competitively you need to craft boom. Just get it over with.
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Post #2985 (isolation #48 ) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:55 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:55 pm
Not really. Playing an all aggro lineup is really really bad in conquest format.
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Post #2988 (isolation #49 ) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:18 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:18 am
do you not play tournaments?
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Post #2990 (isolation #50 ) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:11 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:11 am
it also makes you weak to lineups designed to counter aggro, which are very common.
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Post #2996 (isolation #51 ) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:26 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:26 am
Conquest is the format that was used the past year for tournaments.
Each player brings three decks and the first person to get a win with each of their decks wins the match. It's not native to the client or anything, its just the way hearthstone tournaments do matches.
The other one used is called "last hero standing" which goes until someone defeats all of their opponents decks. I like it better but its less used.
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Post #3001 (isolation #52 ) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:51 am
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:51 am
A lot of the issue with like literally all of these formats (and especially the last one bro describes) is that they are far more testing of "can I accurately predict what my opp will bring" than they are of hearthstone playskill.
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Post #3003 (isolation #53 ) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:14 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:14 pm
yeah. Control warrior vs. freezemage is sure a skill game.
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Post #3008 (isolation #54 ) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:25 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:25 pm
I think it's 95-5 or so. Still bad enough that I just scoop out of it every time.
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Post #3023 (isolation #55 ) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:59 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:59 pm
Panzer why in the fuck would you play Sprint in a mech deck?
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Post #3026 (isolation #56 ) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:05 pm
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by Thestatusquo » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:05 pm
Wrath of God is a God tier card. You don't play it in aggro.
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Post #3031 (isolation #57 ) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:56 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:56 am
Playing a lot of aggro shaman.
holy crap is this deck explosive.
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Post #3033 (isolation #58 ) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:09 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:09 am
it has a little more play than that.
There is an absurd amount of reach not even counting rockbiter plus doomhammer.
If you get them down to like 10 or so its likely you'll rip what you need.
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Post #3034 (isolation #59 ) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:13 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:13 am
Also, is there interest in a MS hearthstone tournament? Cuz that would be sweet. I'm totally willing to set that up.
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Post #3038 (isolation #60 ) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:24 am
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by Thestatusquo » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:24 am
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