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HI GUYS PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
I NEED TO BE THE 2ND LARGEST WAGON EACH DAY TO GET MANA. NOT VOTING ME IS AN ACTUAL SCUMCLAIM, THIS IS NOT A FARCE
thank you, cooperating with me so i can use my role would be greatly appreciated so i can break this game openI swear I'm trying my best
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listen listen listen listen listen
i think we need to all get back on track here. i am simply stating a fact here, im an immaculate player and wouldn't get voted otherwise so i needed to get that off my chest. we can move on as long as yall let me rack in the mula, im not a jester but damn this is a game of hot potato of a roleI swear I'm trying my best
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am in it. i want inIn post 127, OnTheMark wrote:
I do. You’re in it.In post 126, Creature wrote:I don't think we actually have a townblock rn unless I'm missing something.I swear I'm trying my best
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are you saying that im lying about the way i can get mana or are you saying im not lying and im scum with said ability?In post 133, Chara wrote:the fact is that if claiming how we all get mana would help the town coordinate to give everyone mana, this would not be a Varsoon game.I swear I'm trying my best
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scumIn post 145, Taly wrote:So much meta, game references, and pre-game talk O____o
I don't quite know what to think.I swear I'm trying my best
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also ftr i dont like hydras and i have a hard time following them, if each and every hydra could sig who is who in the hydra, that would be greatly appreciated. particularly applies to tibor and ?? since theyre signing under codenames.I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 169, OnTheMark wrote:Til then you’re just bitching you aren’t in the town block.In post 130, Venmar wrote:am in it. i want inIn post 131, Venmar wrote:just kidding i actually don't, arbitrary townblocks this early as sus afI swear I'm trying my best
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listen here fucko, i will not take that lying downIn post 281, baku and munna wrote:venmar is a townlean, i respect the shitpostI swear I'm trying my best
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i don't think im sheeping anyone actually, lol. if i am its a pure coincidence since i just kind of skimmed the thread and those two reads were the ones that jumped out at me.
im townreading chara because of this post:
which just screams "hey i'm town, slap that on me pls". chara here is giving genuine, well-intentioned guidance and structure to the discussion, and combined with chara's discussion regarding claims, which again feel like he's trying to steer us solely into town's benefits, i think chara is coming from a strong townie mindsetIn post 207, Chara wrote:like this isn't AI. maybe it is but i wouldn't know how to look at it. i hate reading it, not because it's noise (i really don't care about noise), but because i can see what both of you are trying to say. but there's no clear communication, just a series of misinterpretations. that's why it's taking pages and pages to explain simple things on, now, both fronts.
maid cafe is town because im mirror telling them regarding their points on onthemark and because i think their questioning of mark in general was a productive exercise of scumhuntingI swear I'm trying my best
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how could you possibly be 90% sure on anything this early.In post 347, Shining Dreamers wrote:I felt this way about another person once, and I was right, so there is 90% chance I am right this time as well.
lol your face seems a bit offIn post 368, Tibor and Lumia wrote:Venmar seems a bit off.
this post is cancerIn post 362, Shining Dreamers wrote:Actually, it was me, and yet it wasn't.
The statement before this one is true.
The statement before THIS one is false.
So tell me, is it me, or is it not?I swear I'm trying my best
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this post has me curious. why did you feel the need to explain being less transparent?In post 395, Bronya Zaychik wrote:The reason for being less transparent with my scumreads is I am worried about getting nightkilled this game. Getting eliminated by scum is minus equity. A dead Bronya is a useless Bronya.
on the topic of transparency of reads i wouldnt be opposed to hearing why you're townreading your list
i just simply disagree? i think cafe was pretty blunt and forward, to the point, not obtuse. i think you're discrediting them more than scumreading them.In post 399, Shining Dreamers wrote:While I find the meta point on OnTheMark to be a valid concern, literally everything else about Maid Cafe in that entire conversation is trash, and absolutely wasn't a productive exercise in scumhunting; the questions were obtuse in a way I wouldn't consider town. The entire time, I was siding with primarily Chara/OnTheMarkI swear I'm trying my best
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In post 480, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
How is a day 1 scum lynch bad for town? Please explain the theory, since I have never personally heard this one.In post 477, Chara wrote:historically, a scum lynch on day 1 is actually worse for town. sometimes, it can work out wonderfully despite that. but for the most part, i'd call it bad. Maki knows what i mean.
therefore, seeing as my role powers up on town deaths, and a day 1 scum lynch is bad for town, i propose we collectively agree to lynch town. i know it sounds silly, but it makes sense. i hate seeing town do well on the first day only to tank every other.
VOTE: Mark
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it's the first time i've heard of the theory, pretty null on it, more interested in the reactions to it. i honestly thinks it's kind of silly and we should just lynch productively and naturally to what the gamestate demands, but it's not like i haven't seen wackier theories have some merit.I swear I'm trying my best
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i think you're wanting to draw conclusions from places that don't have them lol. a wagon on me in this case is productive only from my pov so i don't expect it to look like so to you from yours. a wagon on you is productive if the people pushing it think you're scum. a wagon on town can be productive from chara's pov. simple as that, nowhere in #493 did i specify that being "productive" or "natural" has to mean the lynch is on scum.
why do you think i am forcing a wagon on myself, which i no longer am? do you consider me and only me voting myself a wagon and "forced"?I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 513, Skybird wrote:Are you scrum w/ Chara?I swear I'm trying my best
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are you reading me as null?In post 523, Reasonably Rational wrote:I don't really see why anyone townreads Venmar. Not to say I expect him to be scum, I just don't see evidence for thinking he's town.I swear I'm trying my best
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you keep saying this as if saying it enough times will make it trueIn post 612, OnTheMark wrote:
He's not. He keeps trying.In post 611, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
Mind explaining how Venmar is in a townblock? All he did was claim how he gets mana. Don't see what's so towny about that, explecially since it's probably NAIIn post 157, Creature wrote:Still don't understand how Venmar is out the townblock, but whatever.
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the irony of this post is that it reads as equally faked lol. scumreadIn post 630, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
This feels faked. ScumreadIn post 282, Iconeum wrote:How do we even have claims?? GAME HASN'T STARTED YET
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i'll actually be the devils advocate here cause im curious in your response. right now you're just smugly dismissing and discrediting the case.In post 617, Reasonably Rational wrote:^^ Also, I wrote up my response to your post in our hydra PT, but since nobody seems to care about your case or agree with you(so far), I won't bother posting it! <3I swear I'm trying my best
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it shouldn't be the the thing you like about them though, lol. tibor had a knee-jerk scum reaction to the strat chara mentioned and has been fake posting all game so farIn post 701, Iconeum wrote:Venmar, who do you read as scum in this game?
Other then voting yourself 'for mana gain', you are voting Tibor because the slot went against purposefully lynching townie D1 as a general strategy... Of all things Tibor hydra posted, that's like the one thing I really liked about him.I swear I'm trying my best
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i have not. only town almost. thats why i asked.In post 726, Chara wrote:have you seen scum Almost, Venmar?I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 739, Reasonably Rational wrote:All of the above is not to say that I think OTM is scum, however, their play is questionable so far with regards to my slot at least
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these confuse me. cerb do you think onthemark is scum, or town?In post 744, Reasonably Rational wrote:I think OTM already let it go when they saw nobody was actually buying into their case. As I said, I would have just let it lie myselfbut there are parts of that push that don't make sense for someone as familiar with me as they are to make.I swear I'm trying my best
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cerb have you never seen town claim miller falsely?In post 898, Reasonably Rational wrote:I knew you were a liar. I was trying to figure out under what circumstances the play you were making was possible if you were town.I swear I'm trying my best
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is chara town or scumIn post 915, Reasonably Rational wrote:Doesn't matter if I have or not(I haven't), it's a nonsensical shitty play that's beneath Chara.I swear I'm trying my best
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you should stop being incredibly disingenuous. nobody is really below or above any type of play.In post 923, Reasonably Rational wrote:I should just expect everyone, even the people who I respect, to play like shit?
Got it. Will do so going forward.
Expectations officially lowered.I swear I'm trying my best
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english is my 2nd language, i probably used it wrong. pretentious might've been the right word, i don't know, i just don't think you should punish people for not playing to your high standards. chara's play might've not been the best but you're just shading chara as a player and not just for the play at that point
pedit: re CerberusI swear I'm trying my best
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chara's #945 is a good example of what cerb's mentality causes, btw.
cerb is a generally emotional player in my experience though my experience isn't thorough enough to determine if it's alignment indicative or not.
anyone with meta on cerb, can you confirm or deny if it's in his town range to shade/discredit people (not exclusively regarding chara, it's something i've seen him do this game and it's bothering me).
i also got work soon so i'll be gone till tomorrow probablyI swear I'm trying my best
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im known to have poor reading comprehension/remembrance but even i remembered maid cafe making this post:In post 1094, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Or, to be more exact, you picked the safest reads in the game, trying to look useful scumhunting townie, but was not aware that you made a mistake and Dunnstral had only 1 post.
and like, not that it's a good reason to townread dunn, but it's there. did you just have a twitch reaction to cafe's townlist and grasp for a reason to shade it or?In post 736, Maid Cafe wrote:Is it bad I town read Dunnstral for the timing of his "hi" post?
Because I do and according to Maki that's really stupid
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going to hard lock mark in as town ladies and gentsIn post 1148, OnTheMark wrote:Oh yay!
Titus says to push something and I do.
Then I get called derp tunneling for pushing something and explaining my read as asked and assaults on my skill.
Please tell me to go write “OTM is a good player” then say I am a horrible player for writing it.
I don’t have time for this shit I am going to work.
Let me know when I am allowed to push someone.I swear I'm trying my best
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oh no did shiro roll scum?
pedit: im officially reading the "scum caught in a gambit" mentality as baku positioning themselves to be able to vote chara if the gamestate changes it's mindI swear I'm trying my best
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7313
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7313
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7313
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