Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

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VOTE: Ouroborous

I wanna see RC go batshit crazy after getting only like 1 vote lololololol

P-edit holy wallpost batman

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miller talk is dumbass shit lol

are you guys ready to lynch scum or not

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MariaR is probably scum like, totally scum scum

GOAT READS courtesy of ME

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announcement

Kaede Akamatsu is mod-confirmed Commonwealth aligned.

so, is it a fake announcement or a real ic? where's the sparkling green that comes with an IC flip???

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I was really hoping only jungle was nancy.

Do you want to have this fight?

FIGHT ME!!!1111!1!!!1

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Kappa

kappa koopo

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I was hoping to solve this game before the weekend

Here let me help you
I'm town.

anybody looking at your avatar would know you're town, like

its a shining beacon of towniness





now for RC's im not so sure

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hey 2016 join date, read the wiki and tell me why I think hiders are weak.

hey 2009 join date, stop sucking at MAFIA

bullying darling claire how dare you!

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im having a great time

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Err I'm drunk or something. SOMEON EELSE REAL CLAIMED MILLER.

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Wraith
Ankamius
Dunnstral
Impossibear
Ventriloquist
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So, by the way, here is my issue with Ventriloquist vote right now. These slots all fall into the same "barely a blip on the RADAR" place.

I would like to see anything resembling actually playing the game from all these slots. Maybe Dunnstral does not belong on here.

very well. you got me. i'm not playing the game.

sit down. have a beer. chat with me. partner it's time to ride those horses and shoot some scumbags' matey!

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Wraith
Ankamius
Dunnstral
Impossibear
Ventriloquist
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So, by the way, here is my issue with Ventriloquist vote right now. These slots all fall into the same "barely a blip on the RADAR" place.

I would like to see anything resembling actually playing the game from all these slots. Maybe Dunnstral does not belong on here.

very well. you got me. i'm not playing the game.

sit down. have a beer. chat with me. partner it's time to ride those horses and shoot some scumbags' matey!

Your posts do nothing to move the game state forward.

I'm almost inclined to say you would be a jester with how blatant you are being.

very well. you got me. i'm a jester.

Nameless Man can be town I guess

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at least i'm funny unlike ramcius :^)

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VOTE: Realmen only jungle

I'd rather have a wagon here.

wait... my homie... what happened to this?!!?!

at least i'm funny unlike ramcius :^)

I'll give you that one.

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Why is Real Men on your kill it with fire list?

Because all posts are useless trolly garbage and I think it's a wasted slot. It's totally unreadable and just adds noise to the thread. Would much prefer someone I can actually at least attempt to figure out via ISO or engagement. As it stands, I don't want to talk to that person at all, ever, and would be happy if they disappeared entirely.

ETL

man, I'm so sad to hear that! I'm sorry this meme alt slot isn't dedicated to you, but to RC :'(

you see, I thought of making a meme alt specially for ETL, but, the name "ETL" was taken... by someone... probably Not ETL ...





also: real talk, RC is cool and I know he can take it but I'm not ETL would actually be very receptive, heheh

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its okay, you can figure me out with engagement, i'm easy to read! you'll figure out i'm town... eventually...

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Real Talk section: ETL, if there's any way for me to make you feel more comfortable in this game, or my jokes funnier so that you can appreciate it, please let me know. I'm very sad that I failed to do my one single job of making people like you happy. Please, share with me how I can better serve you.





















Of course, if you're just scum trying to pull a fast policy mislynch on a meme alt that isn't even scum then rule the game because you're known to do that then go suck a chode :^)

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hey 2016 join date, read the wiki and tell me why I think hiders are weak.

hey 2009 join date, stop sucking at MAFIA

bullying darling claire how dare you!

This can also die when Claire flips scum.

you may have a good case buddy, but, here's the problem: i called dibs on it first

MariaR is probably scum like, totally scum scum

GOAT READS courtesy of ME

so you can go suck a big one Nero Cain

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@ManWithNoName

- Are you scum reading Jungle for his lack of AI posts?

Ghost

god knows, but is it really a coincidence that

Man

with no name is voting someone like

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?

it looks to me that he is voting me because he doesn't feel like a REAL MAN

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Also, ETL, just as a quick note because this is directly relevant to me: how do you generally get your reads? I remember you being a fairly strong player but I want to get an idea as to why our general thoughts have been polar opposites this game.

I still lean townish on the overall analysis, but I want to get this sorted out sooner rather than later since it would do a lot to prevent me from gaining paranoia on your slot later in the game.

Hi, Ankamius, you're today's winner of REAL MEN'S GOAT ADVICE!!!!! Congratulations!!!!!

Q: Why are ETL's reads the polar opposites of yours this game?

A: Choose 1 of the following: A) Your reads suck. B) ETL is scum. C) All of the above.

Having problems with ETL's reads? Here's a simple solution: Sheep REAL MEN, satisfaction guaranteed

Brought to you by MAN reads

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VOTE: Impossibear

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Please don't skip reading these - I have a lot of discussion I missed and would like to engage with people about several posts, plus I put a lot of time and work into reading this game in-depth rather than skimming so...

I actually skipped reading those, until I actually went to read those, and REAL MEN says that ETL is scum!

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@ManWithNoName

- Are you scum reading Jungle for his lack of AI posts?

Ghost

I do believe that is the best way to phrase it. He reads in a way that he's not trying to game solve, he's just trying to not give away any information. That's enough to earn a scum read from me.

that's usually be a strong case, buddy, but heres the problem: jesters and comedians are exempt from this

have you ever heard of the saying "If you lynch the jester, you lose"?



wanna be a REAL MAN instead of a nameless man with a huge wagon? sheep me and vote impossibear!

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also that logic is good for beginners but with this site meta these days you'd be calling half of every playerlist in every game scum

you'd also fail to catch any scum above Alchemist21 tier, like our friend impossibigbear here

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@ManWithNoName

- Are you scum reading Jungle for his lack of AI posts?

Ghost

I do believe that is the best way to phrase it. He reads in a way that he's not trying to game solve, he's just trying to not give away any information. That's enough to earn a scum read from me.

This sounds more like a policy lynch than a scum lynch.

Ghost

yes

@ManWithNoName

Do you still hold your stance that Jungle isn't trying to game solve, despite the vote on Impossibear?

@Jungle

Is it safe to assume you're voting for your scum read i.e Impossibear?

Ghost

and yes

:goodposting: from Ghost

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ETL, if there's any way for me to make you feel more comfortable in this game, or my jokes funnier so that you can appreciate it, please let me know. I'm very sad that I failed to do my one single job of making people like you happy. Please, share with me how I can better serve you.

Mafia is srsbsns. I just don't find your shtick all that appealing. I'd rather you actually do something constructive.

@RC: Who is this joker?

Of course, if you're just scum trying to pull a fast policy mislynch on a meme alt that isn't even scum then rule the game because you're known to do that then go suck a chode :^)

I'll admit this made me chuckle.

RC doesn't know who this joker is because obviously I wouldn't be telling him because obviously thats the whole point of making a meme alt dedicated to him!

I mean, he can guess, but good luck because I'm deliberately playing to obscure my playstyle unless I slip


you're going to grow all white hair if you take mafia so seriously every game. stress and stuff. I heard it does bad things for your health. why not have some fun? chillax, hang around, talk shit, then lynch scum.

this game isn't good enough for you to take it so seriously. Look at the playerlist!

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ETL struggling to keep up with a game that grows only like 3 pages a day? making fake wallposts responding to every single bullshit post almost every page attempting to look townie? i know this bitch reads faster than that!

why the fuck you lyin'?

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hey if that was offensive let me know and i'll tone it down

but i know it isnt

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VC 1.03

Tchill13 (4):

verylazy, Impossibear, davesaz, Wraith

wilky (1):

Tchill13

Ouroboros (1):

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Ramcius (3):

wilky, Ventriloquist, Alchemist21

Nero Cain (2):

Dunnstral, MariaR

MariaR (1):

Nero Cain

Ventriloquist (2):

Ouroboros, hebichan

verylazy (1):

Kaede Akamatsu

REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE (1):

ManWithNoName

ManWithNoName (1):

Ankamius

Not Voting:

Ramcius

With

18

alive,

10

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-20 12:33:41)

MWNN

's vote is probably the easiest, lamest copout vote I've seen all game. There's literally no content there. It's null af, especially considering how much other content there is to analyze so far. Lynching that slot would be a waste - let the vig take care of them.

Not feeling tchill anymore, tbh. I know Jingle really think he's scum, but 1) I really don't like the wagon company and 2) Wraith is worse.

VOTE: Wraith

Nero Cain (2):

Dunnstral, MariaR

MariaR (1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral, is this vote solely based on their interaction and nothing else? What about anything else going on in the thread?

p-edit: I have a life, and I'm not going to apologize for that.

If you ever call me a bitch again, not only will I replace out and blacklist you, but I will do everything in my power to get you banned for it. Don't do it again.

ETL

sorry honey, it was an endearing term, please don't replace out

yeah i'll stay away from questionable language, you have my MAN's word and honor on it

i know you're scum though, so

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see here's my dilemma

i think ETL is scum

so i need to push her

but ETL thrashes around a lot as scum and makes us feel all guilty about it if caught

what if ETL is town? then she'd get so pissed that she'd replace out

but if she's scum, I have to trust that she wouldn't go so low as to do the same and threaten to replace out if caught correctly

I draw the line at ETL threatening to replace out but if she does that as scum that would be really frowned upon!


a MAN needs help. what do?

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PS:

if i stop pushing ETL even though I think she is scum and then she is actually scum, I am gamethrowing


REAL MEN may be funny but REAL MEN NEVER GAMETHROW!

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REALMEN

You're wrong. Or scum. It's one of the two. If you're town, figure it the fuck out and get your shit together. Posting some weak ass reads list and then saying "ETL is scum" without an actual argument is bullshit and I'm not going to respond to nonsense.

Not only are you not providing any actual content, but you're poking a bear that you obviously know will make noise if you keep it up. To me that seems like you simply want to piss me off in order to distract from something going on in the thread.

You can fuck off.

see thats what I love about ETL, awesome as town, awesome as scum, but loves to fearmonger people who are on to them and make them scared to lynch their slot as both alignments

for personal reasons incase they replace out or get mad

i feel like i'm playing with two RCs in one game! double the RC double the fun!!

/shrug

alright honey, I know how to deal with you

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I think Realmen's posting has been to the point where he is just avoiding posting anything that can be AI.

Yes. Agreed. But like I said, if we have a vig, this should be there shot. What do we gain from lynching a slot that has offered no real information, with no associations, and no real reads to follow? Nothing. It's one of those slots that just needs to be erased because it's useless.

hey, i make the game fun and happy, alright? shouldn't you be advocating for the vigging of people who are

actually trying but remain useless despite how much they try

?

chillax, have a pizza, it's just a game, and an easy one at that~

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VOTE: verylazy

let's manwagon this eevee instead!

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Impossibear|ETL: This is a reachout to you ETL. If you want to play in a serious business mafia game, hurry up and /in for the partition game currently in Mini Theme queue. There's zMuffinMan, Wisdom, and other better players there that your actual tryharding would be put to a better challenge and time better spent there. Unless of course, for some reason you hate Wisdom, then, uh, that's sad but I hope that's not the case.

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Please don't skip reading these - I have a lot of discussion I missed and would like to engage with people about several posts, plus I put a lot of time and work into reading this game in-depth rather than skimming so...

I actually skipped reading those, until I actually went to read those, and REAL MEN says that ETL is scum!

Why is real men helping scum powerwagon town if you are scumreading ETL?

because ETL does the same thing that you do when you're scum (yell really loudly to scare the wagon away which you both also do as town) and i'm not MAN enough to deal with that alone

what's your best advice to dealing with yourself as scum?

i'm not sold on ventriloquist but for you special sweet chocopie i'll look at him again

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VOTE: Ventriloquist

MWNN is probtown here though, it's a MAN read

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fuck off. jingle was clearly wrong about you. and i'm the one who said you had no skill. i see i was right. go away.

fuck off both of you. idiots.

towns these days are garbage. i don't know why i bother with discussion.

I told you, go /in for the Mini Theme game in queue, I'm not joking here.

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fuck off. jingle was clearly wrong about you. and i'm the one who said you had no skill. i see i was right. go away.

fuck off both of you. idiots.

towns these days are garbage. i don't know why i bother with discussion.

I told you, go /in for the Mini Theme game in queue, I'm not joking here.

FUCK. YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE. FUCK WISDOM AND FUCK MUFFIN. both players i've fucking blacklisted which you must know since you mentioned exactly them. jfc

hey I suspected the Wisdom one but why would you blacklist muffin?!

oh well that's sad and i'm sorry



don't worry, REALMEN's main is confirmed not blacklisted by ETL, you have my MAN word and honor

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Reaction is probably extremely indicative one way or the other
I'll table that read and meta dive her games and see what I think later

Ventriloquist is still scum, more townies need to vote them since pretty obviously scum are never going to vote them at this point.

are

you

even able to tell the difference between your reactions when you're town vs you're scum?

maybe I can, but, like, it's always presented in a way that people (including myself) don't want to deal with that bullshit until later in the game.

but you both shouldnt cry if you both are a magnet for cop and investigative checks

p-edit: it's an ETL thing just like how rage is an RC thing

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honestly i'm glad that ghost is there to town up your slot because having to deal with 2 of that means that my MANliness will be all gone and i'd be memeing all game instead

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i'd put in a good word for you ETL if I didn't actually think that you're trying to hard buddy RC since the start of the game

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like, you know, i was looking forward to having nachos and popcorn with the both of you being all locktown and townbloccy, but of course ETL has to go and rand scum and ruin the whole thing

don't worry ETL, if we're actually wrong on you, we'll figure it out eventually

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Tentative skim of c9++ suggests that she can fake far more difficult emotionality than this and she trips up on the logic so I'm actually inclined to ignore it and stick with my previous read
but at the same time the rage didn't come close to coming out in that game. So it's plausibly not the direction she typically goes as scum
@Jungle do you think that the rage is specifically scum indicative, do you think it's just an ETL thing, or do you think that it leans town indicative?

the hard part about digging ETL's meta for games of her scumraging when caught is this: ETL scum rarely gets caught in the first place. it's difficult to get exhibits of ETLscum and even more difficult to get exhibits of ETLscumfakerage

but this sounds like RCscum too

man this is so tiring can we just have some fun instead?

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Subject: Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

confirmed wrong post game.

I fucking invented this trick.

Screaming about how I'm going to shove a player's ineptitude down their throat in end game. All the while I was scum trying to stir paranoia.

Talk about an appeal to fear. It's fucking classic.

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Spoiler: ETL played Team Mafia in 2015 and is capable of faking THIS

Subject: Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

lol... like literally.. what should I do? Yell at them? Call them names? Come on. I don't think they give a shit anymore. I asked for their input. I'm still waiting for it.

You want to lynch me for that instead of... ya know... real reasons, that's cool. I will flip town and I hope to fuck the rest of the players wise the hell up and lynch your ass tomorrow.

Subject: Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

This game is shameful.

Subject: Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

I mean, part of the problem is that it doesn't seem like you give a shit about actually figuring me or anyone else out. You just keep looking for reasons to justify a vote.

"If you dont do X, I will vote you."

Ok...? A+ scum hunting my friend. I almost hope you are town just so I can be like, wow you are fucking terrible.

Instead of actually trying to engage me, you argue about semantics and derail conversations. Instead of trying to find connections, you try to create them. Instead of reevaluating your reads, you go "Nope. These people have always been and will always be town for no reason whatsoever, which means only these people are scum, and I will never think about that ever again despite other evidence."

To be perfectly fair though, Mina is guilty of that too. Except she's actually tried a little bit whereas you haven't.

This entire game makes me sick. BB fucking off the entire game only to say "eh well I'll replace" in the eleventh fucking hour. Patrick popping in once every couple of days with a looks-town-but-says-nothing post. You with all your bullshit. And then there's Mina. Going wahwahwahIdunnowhaddado.

Come on. This is fucking terrible. I already told you to lynch me. You think it's the ones like Patrick who hop on with no reason? I don't really think so. It's people like Quil, who need to fabricate reasons so it doesn't LOOK like that's what they are doing, despite being given a green light. Since yesterday.

How's this for an ultimatum?

I'll just vote myself in 24 hours. Noon EST on Saturday.

no rage involved though: probably she just hates being called scum by a random n00b on a meme alt, but i'm 100% sure raybells would react the same way too

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ugh, fuck

I'm so down to MANwagon verylazy by the by

@Ouroborous give them a good read through and tell me that isn't scum ISO (possible teammate with Ventriloquist)

it's like, I can see Ventriloquist flipping scum, it's 50-50 coinflip for me though.

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Bro u don't know the first thing about RC scum

Didn't you say you were townreading me because of anony?

i'm townreading you

in case you misread #556 i mean that ETLscum employs the same Special Ops level scum tactics that RCscum does.

shes as good as scum as you and I think you're more suited to understand her psyche better despite having lesser games.

besides, you can always read her meta anyawy. it'll be slow but its possible

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fuck, i think this honest heart-to-heart talk is leaking too much info about a MAN's secret identity

but things get serious here, if ETL is actually scum we have a good game instead of all of us being town and curbstomping

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If she's as good as scum as me she doesn't lose c9++

That said I was rather impressed by her scum play in general

she's as good as you as scum. take it from a MAN. MAN meta.

sometimes even the best scum players get unlucky or get investigated. don't DISREPECT an ETL like that.

like, the only reason she lost c9++ was cause ETL got NKed night 1 from an equally competent serial killer

did you even read the game?

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like bruh you were in the game

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sometimes even the best scum players get unlucky or get investigated

THEN INVESTIGATE ME.

will do, cupcake


we were just gushing over how good you are as scum! join the party!

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Oh I was just meming, I was in that game you dolt

I will not take a stance on the issue but I think you regardless of.how good ETL is heavily underestimate me

i dont think i underestimate you. i don't think you actually know what i mean when i say that ETL is as good as you. I didn't say "better". but nevermind.

i'm showing my support by voting Ventriloquist with you, but if that goes south i'm down to MANwagon verylazy

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ETL's two rages are very easy for SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ETL VERY WELL to pick apart. Good luck to the sorry sonofabitch who tries and doesn't know her.

Keeping ETL ragey but still decently engaged is an artform that I have spent days of RL time perfecting.

no shit sherlock. glad you're here. not so glad you're in a hydra with her and not a separate slot so that you can help in reading her.

I'll call you "Jingle". I think that sounds nice. Jingle Jungle Jangle Jongle

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oh, you two

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i'm so glad you two chucklefucks are in hydras with partners who are weaker at scum

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this is not what i signed up for. i signed up for fun and to meme and chocolates and pizza and to MANwagon easyscum

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It's fucking hilarious how these fools think they can meta read me when there's literally no one on site who can, much less someone who has played with me less than 1% of the games I've played.

If you were Antihero, maybe. Jingle, maybe. AP, maybe. Perhaps cabd because he's weird. None of you are those people. So don't pretend like you fucking know anything about me. I haven't played more than 4 games in the last year, and the last time I was truly active was nearly 2 years ago. Get over yourselves.

Yeah. I'm fucking amazing at scum. I'm also fucking amazing at town. That's great. If you're so afraid of me, lynch me or shoot me. Otherwise, leave me the fuck alone. Don't talk to me. Don't pretend you know me. Don't pretend you know my meta. Don't pretend meta doesn't change in 2 fucking years. But if you're going to actually try that lame bullshit, at least get it right. I've done literally zero of the things you all mentioned as "scumETL meta". Congratulations. You have done... nothing constructive.

You're both wrong and I think realmen has a good chance of actually being scum here trying to get rid of the strongest town player in this game.

Good fucking luck with that.

And for the record, I

am

better at scum than RC.

ETL

you know, secretly, deep down in your heart, that, the strongest town player in this game, is actually


REAL MEN

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this is not what i signed up for. i signed up for fun and to meme and chocolates and pizza and to MANwagon easyscum

Crazy kids trying to dance and listen to rock music.

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Kaede - IC

Strong Town

Alchemist, Ouroboros, wilky

Maybe Town

Ramcius
Ventriloquist

Unknown

davesaz
Dunnstral
hebichan
MariaR
Nero Cain
verylazy

Maybe Scum

Ankamius
tchill
MWNN
realmen

Strong Scum

Wraith

ETL

p-edit: Grade A posting.

i'm sorry that you're not satisfied when i meme, and also not satisfied when i tryhard. may i know how i may be of service, and how i can make your stay more comfortable in this game?

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realmen - stop fucking talking to me. I don't know who you are and I really don't give a fuck.

Ouroboros - are you asking me? If so, what does that even mean?

ETL

i'm trying to work with you and engage with you and you diss me like that! you're so mean!

my MAN feelings are hurt

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i'm gonna leave the thread for a bit since ETL doesn't want to talk to me because I forgot (or intentionally didn't bring!) my Badge of ETL Approval

cya RC

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call me WRAITH KING

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@Ouro:

I don't know if appeal to fear is a thing.

Subject: Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

confirmed wrong post game.

I fucking invented this trick.

Screaming about how I'm going to shove a player's ineptitude down their throat in end game. All the while I was scum trying to stir paranoia.

Talk about an appeal to fear. It's fucking classic.

MAN says otherwise

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see i don't want to push ETL anymore because she's doing the exact thing that RC does as town (and sometimes as scum) which is literally

"you are scumreading me and you are trying to piss me off and I can't stand a push on me and im so mad so if you push me i will powerlynch you"

I don't want to deal with this then end up having ETL town


i'm still down to MANwagon verylazy

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MANread of the day:

ankamius is town

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keep those MANreads jotted down in your notebooks, kids, because when you review them postgame they're usually correct

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Jungle, talk to me a minute. How well do you know me? How well do you know ETL? Do you have a reason to believe you can read ETL?

was about to leave for work but i'll answer this last question because i saw it last minute on my phone

unfortunately i no longer have time to engage live with you but we'll find another session

i'll give you the following statements and you draw your own conclusions. these statements are confirmed to be true on my MAN's word and honor, even if it risks outing my MAN's secret identity. I have to balance the two
---

of the following group of three: sthar8/Jingle/ETL, I am least familiar with Jingle.

I was considering making this meme alt dedicated to ETL instead of RC pre-game, but decided not to, because of the fact that ETL would probably be even less receptive to the idea than she currently is now, even though this meme alt is meant to troll RC and not ETL, although ETL believes otherwise.

I am deliberately meme alting and not revealing my identity to ETL as well as RC for the purposes of this game. I may or may not do so postgame.

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4. the decision to meme alt for the purposes of this game was decided pre-game, and is therefore not indicative of alignment

5. i'm town

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see i don't want to push ETL anymore because she's doing the exact thing that RC does as town (and sometimes as scum) which is literally

"you are scumreading me and you are trying to piss me off and I can't stand a push on me and im so mad so if you push me i will powerlynch you"

I don't want to deal with this then end up having ETL town


i'm still down to MANwagon verylazy

Scared. Scum.

If you actually knew me at all and knew how to read me, you'd be doing more than this cautious bullshit, and if you were actually town, you'd be trying to figure me out instead of just pissing me off.

And stop fucking comparing me to RC. We're not the same person and using his tells to read me is utter fucking bullshit. Not to mention the cowardice of hiding behind this lame alt and claiming some kind of knowledge of me in order to gain the confidence of other people in the thread. You clearly know nothing at all.

And for the record, I'm not pissed because I'm being scumread, that comes with the territory. I'm pissed because you're a jackass who is deliberately seeking to irritate me.

ETL

i just dont want to shit up the thread playing cat and mouse with you when you can be easily sorted with an investigative action. you said it yourself. and the last thing i want is for you to replace out. please understand, thanks.

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half of me is curious to see how far I can progress with ETL in this game without showing/having to bring out my "Badge of ETL's Approval"

clearly a rough start but the MAN will make this work out

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Aight. I'll work on reading you. FWIW, I'm not sure that we're worth the investigate, but I'll take conftown status if someone wants to give it to us. You should know that ETL will obvtown eventually if town. It's how she do. I'd far prefer they use it on RC or an actually unreadable slot. You clearly don't have the experience to get her to rage read level, so your best bet is going to be to leave her to her devices and see what falls out when she's got her feet under her.

I think I've got her calmed down enough to the point that she's not hatebonering for your lynch, but I'd REALLY suggest against making a meme alt to mess with her. She despises alts who try to meta read her and will not respond well. I think I have enough information to figure out your identity. I will do so over the weekend, and decide whether your progression makes sense for the level of knowledge you actually have on her. I don't out secret alts without permission as a rule, so you have my word that whatever I come up with will remain a secret, but I WILL use the information to read you if I can. At the moment, assuming my read of your familiarity with ETL is correct you're probably town. If you're either FAR more familiar or FAR less, that's pretty much the opposite.

I think I've also talked her out of running to your house tonight with pitchforks and torches for the lols of it.

ETL claimed "strongest town player in the game", which, MAN to man, I agree with. second to, only, the MAN of course. to get such a slot conftown, who could pass up such an irresistible offer ?!?!

well yeah, thats why such a meme alt doesnt exist. yet.

i'll take your word for it and honor it like a MAN. though, good luck with that, i've already revealed more than i needed or intended to when i signed up for this game for the most part.


no shit i'm town. though i will not confirm nor deny any guesses

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So I reskimmed 648 and now I really want to lynch verylazy.

I'll be better able to explain when I have a computer.

Ghost

i'll back you up on this like a MAN but i don't have any extreme objections to Ventril wagon for now which is the only reason why i'm on the wagon with RC

MAN SUPPORT

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I'm not scum reading manwithnoname that hard right now, he seems to be scumhunting, which I don't think many scum players try to play up this early day one.

I dunno, I feel vent more at the moment, but you could case him if you like. I could probably be swayed.

Hebi, who specifically are you referring to here?

Anyone who is scumreading him, specifically REALMAN

if your tiny snake eyes could actually read my posts, i have a MANread on MWNN and that MANREAD IS TOWN

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this here is the VI

if you can tolerate them you'll certainly have fun with the MAN

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Realmen

Can I get a reads list from you? With some of your posts it's hard to tell if your giving a read or not so I want a more organized list so I can see clearly where you stand.

MANREAD: man with no name is town
MANREAD: Ankamius is town
MANREAD: Alchemist21 is town

MANREAD: verylazy is scum

check back again tomorrow for more MAN READS!!

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if ventriloquist flips town I’m sending you to the gym to become a REAL MAN

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down to wagon this as well^

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okay those reactions are all I need from Venturi.

vetoing that wagon.

BE A REAL MAN AND VOTE HERE

VOTE: wilky

Verylazy is also acceptable wagon

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down to wagon this as well^

But I'm scum, aren't I? And Wraith is my top scum read. So explain this disconnect, especially considering my number rule as scum is "never fucking bus". Shows how well you know me.

ETL

REAL MEN DONT USE PREFLIP ASSOCIATIVES

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okay never mind he claimed miller boo

VOTE: verylazy

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okay those reactions are all I need from Venturi.

vetoing that wagon.

BE A REAL MAN AND VOTE HERE

VOTE: wilky

Verylazy is also acceptable wagon

Bullshit dude you've been looking for an excuse to get off ever since you got off and those posts were clearly coached, like all of them coming at once is so fucking transparently the team coaching them in scum PT.
Are you the scum in yourself and Bear?

no

your wagon has been MANvetoed sorry not sorry

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Man your arrogance in thinking that you can try to strongarm a defense of your partner here is staggering.

I’m MANvetoing your push. on account that your last 5 town games all had <rand reads.

deal with in, grow some balls, and become a REAL MAN

if you vote verylazy with me and get his red flip you’ll get one ball back

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I'm policy dayvigging the next person to vote a claimed mason.

who the fuck claimed mason?

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Get bent my reads were bad because I had a bunch of shitheads making shit wagons on me. This isn't about my reads this is about Ventriloquist being obvious scum and you not being bad enough to be this far off course.

you’re the one whose off course here.

grow a pair and join the REAL MEN

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I claim masons with whoever is being wagoned that isn't Ventriloquist.

you’re the one whose off course here.

grow a pair and join the REAL MEN

Be a better scum player next time

your balls are missing from your most recent town games

your new style of townpushing is impotent without MAN sperm


grow a pair and join REAL MEN

you’re getting priority, before other normies do

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Actually you know what I genuinely think that making a case is -equity here and that just focusing on core points and yelling at people to vote Ventriloquist is going to have better results so

disregarding a MAN veto is -equity for the entire town

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Actually you know what I genuinely think that making a case is -equity here and that just focusing on core points and yelling at people to vote Ventriloquist is going to have better results so

disregarding a MAN veto is -equity for the entire town

Treating this as a guilty on Ventriloquists scumflip. bye.

REAL MEN know that ventriloquists is flipping town

just like the rest of your UNMANLY pushes from 2018

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I'm waiting for you to defend your buddy more let's hear it

REAL MEN know that ventriloquists is flipping town

just like the rest of your UNMANLY pushes from 2018

I am bad in games with people who make me play bad in games: people doing shit like Kaede wants to do. I had more than enough time and space to get on track and I will carry this one.

MAN vetos exist to prevent you from playing bad in yet another game

if you’re playing poker you would have lost your bankroll 10 times over with all those failed all-in pushes you make

good thing we don’t charge anything here!

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stop writing words and threats to lynch a MAN

REAL MEN know that they’re all empty

Because RC is no longer a MAN

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people here all know that you’ve lost your MANhood

nobody here’s actually going to follow you, real talk, MAN to man

I’m offering you a chance to grow your pair back

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REAL MEN don’t get mislynched

only nightkilled by non-MEN

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VOTE: verylazy

MAN beer and cigars and other MAN goodies for those who join this wagon

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this is bullshit. venti is probably flipping town. ETL is probably town. sadly so is RC here

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this is fucking ridiculous like did RC really bypass a MAN veto?

I thought you were going to take a break from mafia

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ETL IS TOWN

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100% luck, 0% skill

when all ins are free you're bound to river eventually. whatever

--

Impossibear has received a quest, the quest was given by me. they need to perform the following actions today to complete the quest:

1. be vote #3 on a wagon today that reaches L-1, this L-1 wagon must be reflected in the vote count
2. be the hammer on today's lynch

successfully performing the above actions will complete the quest and allow them to be publically daycopped tomorrow so we get another IC or confscum.

quests changes every night and GIF will tell me what the new quest is

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Do you know the quest requirements and effects before you give it?

yes

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VOTE: dunnstral

the prereqs are in no means easy. they're clear and straightforward but from experience n00bs (or scum) will enjoy fucking it up

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VOTE: verylazy

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the funny thing is that n00b town is more likely to fuck up lynch-related powers than scum.

i've seen 5 n00b town fuck up these things on 5 separate occasions but only like 1 scum trying to mess things up.

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impossibear's cooperation to get themselves cleared makes them obvious town now anyway

though i already figured that out yesterday. late but still at least on day 1 and ahead of the pack

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Most annoying character in the game

can confirm, randed most annoying character in that game and in this mafia game as well

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is this really a world where RC, ETL, and REAL MEN are town?? is it really???

inb4 RC is not town, scumbussing his partner as he usually does and is here to cut our innocent heads off like the evil scum maniac he is

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ventri's scumflip actually gives us a lot of information so it'll be pretty good idea to dig there

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is this really a world where RC, ETL, and REAL MEN are town?? is it really???

inb4 RC is not town, scumbussing his partner as he usually does and is here to cut our innocent heads off like the evil scum maniac he is

is it the world, where all 3 of you are scum and bussed poor Vent, because he's not from your crew?

if you think that's the world you should concede right now because theres a 0% chance of town winning

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Oh before I forget

Thanks for falling for the bait, Ramcius. You can hang day three.

why not day 2?

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RMOJ DID YOU CHOOSE TO GIVE TO IT US?

YES

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is this really a world where RC, ETL, and REAL MEN are town?? is it really???

inb4 RC is not town, scumbussing his partner as he usually does and is here to cut our innocent heads off like the evil scum maniac he is

is it the world, where all 3 of you are scum and bussed poor Vent, because he's not from your crew?

if you think that's the world you should concede right now because theres a 0% chance of town winning

No, i will wait RC to buss you two and then i get him for epic finale of this game

a cockroach trying to fight a god. ignorance.

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Hey REAL, what do you think of this post?

guys, if you want PL lurker, lynch Wraith/Tchill, Dunn/very is just daed weight and not much info to gain from them

Are we

really

still going to fucking call me scum after that Vent flip? Fucking really?

And frankly while I'm certain Ouro is town now it's rather bizarre behavior that they pushed so hard for a Vent lynch and then once they finally got it

immediately

turned against the people who had pushed for it with them the most.

VOTE: Ank

This or TChill. But Ank's insistence that town should not lynch Vent because "D1 scumlynches are bad" is insanely suspicious.

i think 1069 is slightly scummy but 1070 is a bit more towny

net balance: lean town on wraith

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is this really a world where RC, ETL, and REAL MEN are town?? is it really???

inb4 RC is not town, scumbussing his partner as he usually does and is here to cut our innocent heads off like the evil scum maniac he is

is it the world, where all 3 of you are scum and bussed poor Vent, because he's not from your crew?

if you think that's the world you should concede right now because theres a 0% chance of town winning

No, i will wait RC to buss you two and then i get him for epic finale of this game

a cockroach trying to fight a god. ignorance.

nah, i just don't like surrender, also, pride is one of seven deadly sins FYI

the foolish pride of the cockroach will get him slain by the god. in 0.0000000001 seconds.

also, your posts do this to me:

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Really?

Ramcius' vote on me looks stiff and preplanned, but that one from Wraith looks like he actually believes I'm scum for that.

isn't that a good thing? that he actually believes you're scum. that makes wraith town from your testimony

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the foolish pride of the cockroach will get him slain by the god. in 0.0000000001 seconds.

also, your posts do this to me:

don't mistake my honour with yours foolish pride

also, why didn't i felt might of your god?

because i am the nice god

RC and ETL gods arent as nice

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holy fuck

now i know what ETL felt when she said she didnt want to talk to perceived dumb n00b random meme alts

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i should do ETL a favor and show her my Badge of ETL's Approval

then again judging from her tone i don't think its necessary day 2 onwards

sorry ETL i've been an ass

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my Badge of ETL Approval

"Badge of ETL's Approval"

Badge of ETL's Approval

Am I supposed to understand what this means?

sorry ETL i've been an ass

RMOJ - it's fine. I'm an ass a lot of the time.

ETL

the Badge of ETL's Approval is a metaphorical item i made up that Jingle, AngryPidgeon, and Antihero (and a select few others) all have.

RC does not have it which was why you shat on him on D1 for his strongarming

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VOTE: wilky

i'm in for this, fuck his miller claim

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@ETL

a little bit of flawed logic for insta-clearing wilky there.

yes his flavor checks out but it could just be his MANLY SAFECLAIM given by the game host

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@Ouroboros:

Humor me for one moment and assume the following as true:
RMOJ, Kaede, Impossibear, Wilky, Dave conftown.

Given this information and the vent scumflip, who is his most likely partner?

I'm asking because I believe you clearly saw more in vent's ISO than I did, which gives you better insight into who is related there. Also because I am much better at townhunting than anything else, and I am very confident on the above. However, I don't even know where to begin with Vent, so if I could use your brain with my townreads, that would give me a good place to look deeper.

ETL

tchill - who did you hide behind last night and why?

ETL

I would very much appreciate responses to these, please.

@ETL

a little bit of flawed logic for insta-clearing wilky there.

yes his flavor checks out but it could just be his MANLY SAFECLAIM given by the game host

Yeah I know fake claims exist. So? First of all, what motivates a scum miller to not only claim the way he did but counter dave the way he did?

If there's a wilky case, I'd like to hear it. As of right now, I've read nothing - not even just something convincing, literally nothing about why he's scum. This is looking like it's going to be another RC-rams-his-opinion-down-everyone's-throat day, and I'm not interested in that.

I'm pretty sure someone can clear wilky very easily. They should do that.

tchill on the other hand... why the fuck does anyone think that slot is town??

ETL

what? weren't you the one who wanted wilky dead? or maybe i misremembered

anyway, it's tough for me to follow the 180 but i'm okay with a dead tchill or verylazy

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Re: Wilky's flavor - I happen to be very familiar with the games. As in, I spend far too much time with Bethesda games in general. When Wilky first claimed and provided a tidbit about what he was - "a prototype synth", I knew exactly who he

could

be. I wanted

him

to confirm that for me or not.

He confirmed it for me. For the same reason that RMOJ is conftown, so is wilky, to me at least. It doesn't matter what anyone says about "yeah but mods do this and mods that with flavor" there's no fucking way in hell that character is ever aligned with the institute in any universe whatsoever, and there are no other institute-aligned "prototype synths".

So there.

ETL

no but in most games i play scum get their obviously-scum-flavored real character with their real role and then provided a safeclaim that are either ambiguously aligned characters or downright town-sounding flavor characters which are meant to be claimed if necessary

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like okay that character is definitely not aligned with scum

but most games i see is that character not existing in the game at all and is just provided as a safeclaim for scum

is this not the case in the large theme games on MAFIASCUM.NET?

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what? weren't you the one who wanted wilky dead? or maybe i misremembered

anyway, it's tough for me to follow the 180 but i'm okay with a dead tchill or verylazy

The

only

reason I was even considering the possibility of wilky being scum is because of RC. I gave him the benefit of the doubt on this one, but it doesn't pan.

p-edit:

YEAH OK BUT THEN WHY COUNTER DAVE?

okay then i have no clue

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i would prefer it if you shoot between the CC-ing miller claims next time though. we gotta get rid of them at some point and hopefully not through a lynch. though what's done is done

p-edit: i dont fucking know the flavor. you tell me

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There's a limit to how much WIFOM I'm willing to take on. You gotta stop the paranoia somewhere to get anything done.

p-edit: More will have to happen before that happens, to be honest. I need more on why wilky is scum if I'm to even consider that avenue of action.

give me a pool of players your are willing to lynch

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actually a good list. i'll buy that

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If this guy doesn't have an alternative PT to be posting in, why the fuck is he making several separate posts in several separate posts?
This is an individual account, not a hydra, and given that they are new they don't have the ability to even make PTs.

Where is he making these separate posts properly forum formatted to be posted together when, if he's town, doesn't have access to any MS PTs?
Why is he taking so long and waiting to post everything together in the first place? What reasoning makes sense there besides him being scum who was holding off to let his team critique his posting?

Town has zero motivation to delay responses until later since clearly he had written these well in advance of 2:23- scum who is getting scumread because of their bad play and wanting team support does.

Hmmm...
738: Thu May 10, 2018 2:23:30 pm
739: Thu May 10, 2018 2:23:46 pm
740: Thu May 10, 2018 2:24:00 pm
741: Thu May 10, 2018 2:24:11 pm (To note he quoted a post 300ish posts older and made a reply in 11 seconds)
742: Thu May 10, 2018 2:25:28 pm

I dunno the first 4 timestamps look a little bit too quick, but they may be a fast typer, i'll keep this in mind for the future.

HOLY FUCK HE DID NOT TYPE THOSE POSTS IN 16 SECONDS AND 11 SECONDS.

KEEP THIS IN MIND FOR WHAT FUTURE

KAEDE YOU'RE HARD PLAYING SCUM WINCON RIGHT NOW

Actually, I guess you have a point, sorry
VOTE: Ventriloquist

VOTE: ventriloquist

tchill did this though. did you think it was a bus?

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VOTE: tchill

MANWAGON

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VOTE: wilky

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honestly whatever

lets get tchill to l-1, ETL be vote #3 to fulfill the quest, then lynch wilky

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hey come on now we're all town here thats a plus

scum autolose

theres no need to be mean just play nice

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like who gives a fuck scum just autolose right now

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i actually support the wilky wagon here fwiw

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holy fuck calm the fuck down

this is going to be a steamroll

wilky is actually scummy here, claim aside

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like i actually want to play with you ETL can you not

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holy fuck

if ETL replaces out im replacing out this is not acceptable

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

it gives me great pleasure to MANWAGON this wanker

also, this game got really thicc

VOTE: ramcius

This is not a manhammer

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MariaR isn't that far below and I kind of remember being pretty certain she's town but I can't remember anything she's done either.

idk maybe I'm going senile

I'm not too young to be going senile am I?

things are getting SPOOK

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also user KAEDE AKAMATSU gets a honorary mention for being a REAL MAN

"but Kaede is a girl! how can she be a man?!" you ask

well, as the REALEST MAN i confer this status upon noble KAEDE AKAMATSU

we achieve very effective results!

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oh, so REAL MAN KAEDE is a MOON MAN. thanks for confirming it, i was really wondering.

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VOTE: tchill

MANWAGON

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if maria is actually town then the townbloc of {ouroborous, REALMEN, REAL MAN, ETL, MARIA} automatically wins the game

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if only ourobourous could stop being a wanker to THREE OTHER MEMBERS IN THAT BLOC^

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and ETL shouldnt be a wanker to RC just because he doesnt have a Badge of ETL's Approval

i swear this bullshit is only happening because RC doesnt have the badge

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Realmen who's scum

good question! lets put on our thinking caps and find out!


still think verylazy's slot is scum. kokichi isnt being town so

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reads (note: these are NOT MANreads and i am not betting my MANliness on them)

TOWN

REAL MEN
KAEDE
OUROUBOUS
ETL
NERO CAIN/MATT

MAYBE TOWN
ankamius
wilky
daveaz
dunnstral
wraith
mariar
ramcius


SHOULD DIE
hebichan
Tchill13
verylazy/Kokichi Oma
Alchemist21

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actually after consolidating my reads this game is actually really easy

but only on the condition if my MAN TOWNREADS are actually TOWN and there is no deep scum

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ALCHEMIST21 is actually MOST LIKELY to be SCUM after a review

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ETL you have displayed absolutely zero respect for my reads earlier, my scumread on Ventriloquist or my own ability to look into the wagon.
If you don't understand why I am scumreading the slot then you certainly shouldn't be saying shit about me being oblivious to the development of the wagon.
I echo the same general ideas that Alchemist had about the way they talk to me being extremely scum leaning but I have very specific ideas here as opposed to Alchemist's vague idea.

Also in defense of Ventriloquist, you've cited MWNN and RMOJ as your reasons for opposing the wagon development.
This doesn't pan out well because although they are voting, neither of their votes are particularly enthusiastic in a way that signifies that they couldn't be scum bussing.

RealMenOnlyJungle has several times after he joined the wagon tried to be like HEY LETS WAGON VERYLAZY INSTEAD.
MWNN took a lot of prompting and comments about his likeliness of being aligned with Ventriloquist before he decided to vote there and hasn't specifically pushed it himself.

Your engagement with me has also been fundamentally monodirectional: rather than trying to understand why my read is what it is you've gotten mad at me for not sharing your reads and been like HEY YOU SHOULD BE READING THIS INSTEAD. I'm not going to claim to be perfect town. But when you make a list of people who can read you and then say that you're a better scum player it makes me extremely skeptical of your ability to fairly judge how good you are: there is literally no one on this site who can claim that they can read me among several people who have told me they've read every single game I've played, and I have one of the largest bodies of work of anyone on this site.

I'm not townreading lazy worth shit: it's completely null. I simply think that the wagon on them is highly liable to be a scum counterwagon.

When bad town starts running the game, it becomes clear that we have already lost.

Don't fail to make any mental effort to appreciate why I'm scumreading a slot then call me bad town for faiing to scumread it, assuming you're town.

Never, ever, ever fail to lynch this slot tomorrow if (when) Ventriloquist flips scum. Don't cop them, don't investigate them, don't discuss with them, just quicklynch them.

It isn't fair to say ETL showed no respect for your reads earlier - fact of the matter is they went through all the posts on page 16 and ultimately decided they didn't agree with your reads - Impossibear still took the time to hear you out at least. Meanwhile, you've ignored the vast majority of Impossibear's posts - posts which actually analyse a huge quantity of players posts. Nice try discrediting the reads since she disagreed with you though, I guess you like to manipulate facts.

MWNN was never being scumread by anyone else as my teammate, only you - when in actuality the close connection you've had with each other - MWNN voting in a similar way to you, and you keeping MWNN at just enough arm's distance to avoid suspicion, actually reads as you two working together from where I'm reading. MWNN did not want to vote for me but eventually came around to the idea...almost as if it was inevitable hey - and his reasoning was because 'I'm not a leader' wow, just wow.

You can already see Ouroboros rubbing their hands with this quote - 'When bad town starts running the game, it becomes clear that we have already lost'

Not only did Impossibear defend vent, vent went out of his way to defend impossibear.

Why was there a mutual defense thing going on?

VOTE: Impossibear

I know I look a bit bad for jumping off the wagon at some point, but dunno, I think the bear slot is my most likely scumread atm after skimming the isos.

this is the BIGGEST STINK I have EVER SEEN in this GAME

why are we keeping this WANKER alive again?

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too many nested quotes makes it very hard to read and follow


also, FUCK because #688 looks POSSIBLE to come from town

this means that the MOST LIKELY to be SCUM is now HEBICHAN instead of the alchemist

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maybe i just HATE his NEW AVATAR and he should have kept it as MANRITO instead

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Well... if it helps, that's a quoted answer for two questions I had, both of which had a quote I was referring to. The impossibear one doesn't matter I don't think.

well, i told you what i thought, so there.

also, i didn't realize you were a 'she'. i always thought you were a MAN. what the FUCK?

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what other issues require my MANLY ATTENTION?

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I think Realmen's posting has been to the point where he is just avoiding posting anything that can be AI.

Yes. Agreed. But like I said, if we have a vig, this should be there shot. What do we gain from lynching a slot that has offered no real information, with no associations, and no real reads to follow? Nothing. It's one of those slots that just needs to be erased because it's useless.

@ETL

i noticed this... you were softing VIG ON REALMAN here?

i am curious.. why did you SHOOT NAMELESS MAN instead of me n1?

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I'm assuming that's an admission that you knew me when I had my pronoun set as male?

oh, so i wasnt going senile

its actually a thing

okay

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hi

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What if Tyler the person just wanted to be able to have excellent reads without people holding his scum game against him?

maybe you should keep your avatar as MANnie instead of some pussy pink keychain ripoff then

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hi

I haven't gone anywhere so you better not flake out.

alright

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Pls just give me my Vent lynch. if you all want to pretend the game is solved when I'm gone then just sheep me on {RMOJ, MWNN, BEAR} containing at least one scum but most likely exactly 2.

this is the post we used to decide. since he was right on vent we figured our reads we're fucked up. jingle felt rmoj was town, so we shot the other one.

turns out he was wrong about all three actually :/

pedit ok.

well rand reads are catching 3 town for every 1 scum so i guess he's on the mark

of being average

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still beats ramcius

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who the fuck is punreader and why do we care about him?

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Maybe you need to read up on what "irony" means.

a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.

This qualifies as neither of those things.
The kill is not amusing, nor is it deliberately contrary to one’s expectation if he had not already seen the vig claim. The expectation at the front is one scum team one kill.
Now if he presupposes vig of which in the prior sentence and multiple times town doesn’t do, then and only then is it ironic.

well MWNN dying was contrary to my expectation so i guess it's ironic for me! ha ha! especially when he said he wouldnt die

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Btw it's shit like this that makes me play like I do as town

But you also play like that as scum so...

REAL WORDS FROM A REAL MAN

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last one prob in lurkers - Maria/Wraith/Dunn/Kokichi

How am I lurking. Its been me talking to the brick wall known as OTM for the past few pages

your pred was lurking and you haven't done anything to townread your slot

Well he's certainly townier than you.

sorry, i didn't know we're doing popularity contest and we're supposed to tell bad jokes for towncred

I didnt know my jokes would have bad.. RAMifications. But, now that I know they do. I dont give a RAM.

but do you give a MAN?

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OTM you call me scum again you die your slot is awful.

And yeah we're killing wraith today, with the reads people are throwing around I don't trust town to have learned anything from Tchill townflip.

I play like that as scum because you force me to Kaede. My playstyle is one of necessity.

I am not calling you scum.

I said I am paranoid.

I am asking which players in the game shoot ETL if the scum kill is indeed missing?

Please answer the question rather than calling me bad.

why does user OntheMark sound like Titus's evil twin???

oh wait...

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where do you want to move to?

dunn is town i think

kokichi can die

seems like wraith is the only scumread both you and rc agree on

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where's REALMEN

Jungling presumably

this is the best interaction i've ever seen in the history of mafia

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nominate that for kodak moment

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RC could be trying to bus Wraith to save Dave. RC Dave Wraith?

No. Stop trying to make associations pre-flip. Please.

Associations preflip is mafia.

Everyone does it. I am just honest I do.

lets welcome RC #3 to the game!

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lol

REALMEN

You haven't seen the fun part of the game yet

i've been here for half an hour and only on page 112

are you telling me that there's more spicy shit to be seen?! golly!

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Also, our role PM came with a big button that when pressed caused GiF's avatar to reach out from the screen and shake us violently while yelling

this is the creepiest imagery i have even seen in the history of mafia

has anybody here watched the rings(2017)?

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oh, i just realized that kokichi replaced verylazy

MANWAGON here

VOTE: kokichi/verylazy

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so who are we lynching? I still need to submit impossibear’s hammer target to GIF on my end before he actually gets hammered so if we can prevent things from getting to the last minute that will be swell

usually I’d be on the ball with this but I’ve been sick the past few days so I’m worried I won’t be able to keep up. Sorry

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so now this game is RC vs ETL vs OTM (vs me but I’m the referee)

watch these MEN DUKE IT OUT for the prestigious title of REAL MAN

who will achieve the status of REAL MAN? find out next time!

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What is with this Moon logic anyway

because they are evil Titus

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I’m in for a dave lynch by the way

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why aren’t we lynching kokichi?

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VOTE: wraith

Please proceed to MANhammer away, ETL

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sorry guys

i was sick and brain farted and submitted the wrong name to GIF

instead of submitting wraith like i was supposed to, i submitted impossibear cos im dumb

sorry for wasting everyone's time

you guys can policy lynch me if you want. or tell me to replace out. you guys have the right.

i just lost another (town) game where i was afk the entirety of lylo and scum quickhammered someone else (though it wasnt really my fault cos i was voting scum) so its a site wide thing.

i'll catch up tomorrow otherwise

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i find it strange that scum decided not to kill me though, they went for RC instead

but on the bright side impossibear's behavior pretty much makes them obvious town so yesterday wasnt totally useless anyway

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sure go ahead and policy lynch me, but dont pretend that you're actually hitting scum lol

anyway, my vote goes here:

VOTE: projectmatt

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sure go ahead and policy lynch me, but dont pretend that you're actually hitting scum lol

anyway, my vote goes here:

VOTE: projectmatt

Lol yeah that’s not a thing.

Jungle is scum.

If he actually was concerned about being policy lynched Jungle would leave reads and try to help, not a snap shot.

Jungle Winkle Maria R and Dunnstral

#solvedIt

oh yes, of course, my last read was "projectmatt is scum", hope that helped!


anyway, the quest i gave to RChydra would make them BP for the rest of the game if the quest was fulfilled. i didn't give it to REAL MAN KAEDE because i thought scum would shoot him and he would die tonight. funnily enough it was the opposite

of course, since the quest is more broken you can expect the quest requirements to be more retarded as well

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evil titus is still being evil titus. sad but town.

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if it means anything, evil titus is completely correct that if i, as scum, would shoot ETL first

but that would assume 2 things:

1. i am actually playing to win (lol)
2. i would off ETL (and RC) despite joining this game for the sole purpose of playing with them in the first place

and then

i would never shoot RChydra last night. even if my hypothetical teammates wanted him dead, i would veto it. or try to. whatever. i was sick anyway

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so is evil titus complaining about:

a) me being an "infinite daycop"?

or

b) me fucking up my daycop yesterday?


a) presumes my role is true. b) presumes my role is false.

you cant have both. seems like evil titus is voting us for both tho

it turns out evil titus is bad at logic

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oh wait, shit.

evil titus is complaining that i am NOT an "infinite daycop"

well, no shit

kappa

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Kaede is a she, REALMEN

i have upgraded Kaede into a REAL MAN

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right, my bad

when addressing REAL MEN i should use the pronoun HE instead of he

it is my mistake

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well, they are a long way to becoming a REAL MAN. cant blame them to think we have crystal balls and godlike powers

i mean, don't we?

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REALMEN how caught up are you with the game

i am up to date

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Where are your reads at?

town are:

etl, me, kaede, evil titus, ankamius

scum must therefore be hiding in the rest

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dunnstral is town too

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oh, there is 14 alive. what the fuck. what a huge poe

i'm down to lynch alchemist or project matt

or cuckichi

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So your PoE list right now is {Wilky, MariaR, Ramcius, Punreader, Kokichi Oma, davesaz, Alchemist21, projectmatt}?

Eight isn't the worst for this stage, but there's a bunch of connections between MariaR and Dunnstral; do you think Dunnstral being town directly makes MariaR more likely town or not really?

I should rethink a bunch of my reads too. eh...

i dont know about the associations

i think maria is lurky and its NAI

i abstain from making a judgement about your aforementioned connections

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im down to lynch millers because it can be a scum fakeclaim

or, get ETL to vig them more like

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i dont know why ETL holstered t heir shot yesterday when vigging lynchbaits/scumbutts who are lower on the PoE is always good for town

Impossibear why didnt you use your very god-gifted power yesterday?

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like why didnt you shoot ramcius

its always good to shoot ramcius

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i cant wait for punreader to altslip and we find out who it is

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VOTE: daveasz

lynching this for blatantly trying to advance scum wincon. as pointed out by punreader.

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VOTE: daveasz

lynching this for blatantly trying to advance scum wincon. as pointed out by punreader.

why you don't want Matt's lynch?

i am ready to MANhammer matt at any available opportunity