Micro 813 - Game Over

[OkaPoka]

heyo catching up in a few

[OkaPoka]

any questions for me about the game so far? I find it better for me to digest the information/catchup if I can interact with it.

also is it me or is invisibility too scummy to be scum.

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: unvote

[OkaPoka]

I hope im not scum though I might have misread my role pm

Manatee imo is kinda sus if you are asking for my read on him. It's been pointed out before i think, 51 and 77 feel a little bit defensive and manatee isn't exactly a new player so you can't forgive him for that.

but i also don't like korina, imo those two are my top two scumreads, so im trying to figure out if one of them is scum or both of them are scum.

[OkaPoka]

guiltylion is town im p sure

[OkaPoka]

@mafmen what needs to happen for someone to deserve your vote? Are you saying you have no slight scumreads rn or do you in general not vote people you have a slight inclination of scumminess to?

[OkaPoka]

is this theater guiltylion? are you going to vote korina soon or what?

i revoke my statement on guiltylion being town for now

[OkaPoka]

what made you put otter in there? I really don't see how otter has anything to do with this conversation.

[OkaPoka]

invisibility is just tossing around votes and joining wagons, something normally people would scumread him for but i think it is too carefree to be read as scum.

some new players as town really care about being scumread most more experienced players as town get more apathetic about scumread unless they see the scumread as inconsistent and scummy or they are going to be lynched.

is it? i was going to mark guilty as solid town because usually town does not completely 180 a case they just built and admit they are wrong.

[OkaPoka]

Ok, let me log on to my laptop, but, Invis, I

never

voted Manatee.

VOTE: Invisibilty

Horrible reason to vote someone in general.
I think you’re scum as well as Mantaee.

this is a real contrived/bad vote and post

yes you technically never voted Manatee but you made it abundantly clear that you did not like his intro and were considering voting him. Invis said he thought Manatee was lynchbait, Otter suggested he vote someone "on the manatee wagon" as there would likely be a scum pushing there if Manatee is lynchbait. Just because you technically didn't

literally

vote him doesn't change the main point that you were effectively aboard "the wagon" for all intents and purposes, even without a vote. Like this just makes your hand-wringing about "are we sure he's scum" look even worse because it's like you're now trying to defend yourself with your lack of vote. And you're not rebuffing Invisibility's read of the game-state, you're playing semantics.

Also I feel you ignored my response to you as well as Oath's question about your MafMen vote.

No, my vote was still on Maf because I didn't have anyone else I was really suspecting, plus, I didn't see the need to change my vote. Why bother changing it if it'd be to unvote and nothing else?

ah sorry I should have kept reading before jumping in lmao, my bad will try not to do it again.

weren't you suspecting Manatee? this explanation feels super inconsistent with your posts about wanting to vote Manatee but also worrying about the wagon size

i was reading this as you were admitting that you didn't read everything before you posted and were just posting your thoughts which were later clarified so you flipped on korina based on what you read. usually as scum i like to revise what im saying and edit things but as town i just ramble. thats why i marked you as town before.

but then you seemed to go in another direction which now i dont know.


@korina why would you ever self hammer as town?

[OkaPoka]

gotcha

why are you trying to bait out korina's possible selfhammer?

[OkaPoka]

if you self hammer it denies town the ability to analyze the wagon fully and you shouldn't be defeatist as any alignment because it is always possible to break a wagon on you.

[OkaPoka]

self hammering could be useful as scum imo in order to cut a day short when you are guaranteed scum and you want to try and throw associative tells/wagon dynamics out of the window because now you added WIFOM to the mix.

okay guilty, now that korina hasn't self hammered herself as she promised too, what do you make of it?

[OkaPoka]

IMO if scum korina was thinking about this clearly, i really don't see why she would threaten to self hammer an L1, it's a damned if you do and a damned if you don't.

if you do self hammer well its a free lynch for town, and if you don't then that can easily be scumread and then probably guarantee a lynch on oneself later on at the very least.

and if town korina was thinking about this clearly, i still don't see why you would threaten to self hammer. because town would never want to actually self hammer, at least in this setup. im pretty sure some mods to the turn into neutral survivor, modkill, end day phase when townie self hammers.

i think if anything, it's the defeatist attitude I want to see from Korina explained more.
so @korina, why the defeatist attitude? maybe you can't block yourself from getting lynched and make yourself seem town, but can't you still scumhunt while you are being attacked and attempt to present better wagons?

if you think about it, if you are truly town then you know that you are the only guaranteed towns, so it would be a mistake to lynch you 100% of the time while everyone else has at least a chance of being scum so literally lynching anyone else would be more optimal.

[OkaPoka]

okay you lost town the game when you self hammered

that's just.. no

please don't do that

[OkaPoka]

okay

but now you understand why you shouldn't selfhammer right?

sorry about gender confusion

[OkaPoka]

it's ur pfp

looks like a female animal ngl

[OkaPoka]

Sorry about this korina, you seem like a good person but

VOTE: korina
l1
there is no way you put this much effort as a player to use self meta as a defense and research your games and then turn around and excuse lazy plays such as selfhammering and failure to count votes.


whole selfhammering thing you pulled off feels like a scum!gambit to derail the wagon now that I've had a bit more time to think about it.

[OkaPoka]

and don't self hammer if you are actually town, I'm still considering if lynching manatee/invis/mafmen

invis though i marked too scummy to be scum hasn't really weighed in and isn't v/la

neither has manatee, he kind of dropped a comment and left

mafmen seems like an abrasive and unlikeable player in general (sorry), I'll go back and iso him to see if I get find some actual scumminess

[OkaPoka]

Sorry about this korina, you seem like a good person but

VOTE: korina
l1
there is no way you put this much effort as a player to use self meta as a defense and research your games and then turn around and excuse lazy plays such as selfhammering and failure to count votes.


whole selfhammering thing you pulled off feels like a scum!gambit to derail the wagon now that I've had a bit more time to think about it.

Oka, we have established very well that I am horrible at counting votes.

maybe you have established it

but the fact that you are putting that much effort into proving you are horrible at counting votes makes me feel like this was somewhat planned and set up.

anyways don't self hammer

pedit: it's a joke lol, you send a pm basically confirming your role

[OkaPoka]

invis weigh in on self hammer business

[OkaPoka]

Yes, but why would that be your fourth post in, not your first one?

because lucky asked me

[OkaPoka]

okay also mafmen is def scum if thats hammer

[OkaPoka]

any questions for me about the game so far?

Are you scum?

Kind of interested in your take on the Manatee business, though, tbh.

I hope im not scum though I might have misread my role pm

Manatee imo is kinda sus if you are asking for my read on him. It's been pointed out before i think, 51 and 77 feel a little bit defensive and manatee isn't exactly a new player so you can't forgive him for that.

but i also don't like korina, imo those two are my top two scumreads, so im trying to figure out if one of them is scum or both of them are scum.

[OkaPoka]

dont even care what korina flips mafmen is scum

[OkaPoka]

welp korina, think about it this way, this a big step in recovering from selfhammer addiction


@korina for what reason would someone not claim vt this is all vt setup for town
pedit: really mafmen? i don't buy that

[OkaPoka]

wait in what world is mafmen not wrong to hammer

i mean what possible benefits does quickhammering benefit town?

if korina is scum we lose some time for associative tells when maf gives intent
if korina is town we lose time for discussion and finding better lynch candidates that may appear

[OkaPoka]

@guiltylion why wasn't the hammer not that bad? it's harmful for town

[OkaPoka]

oka why was the hammer bad

wait in what world is mafmen not wrong to hammer

i mean what possible benefits does quickhammering benefit town?

if korina is scum we lose some time for associative tells when maf gives intent
if korina is town we lose time for discussion and finding better lynch candidates that may appear

VOTE: mafmen

would also be content with an invis lynch today

hi
korina is still scum

k i might stick with my reads because this sounds like straight up bussing

VOTE: Korina
after this flips scum we lynch invis

now that korina flipped town waddup?

would like to hear more from antihero

[OkaPoka]

would like to hear more from antihero

i mean... i'm a pretty active poster so you could reasonably assume that i'd weigh in

any particular reason for that poke?

you are the only null read in my mind so i was hoping that you would say more to help me sort you out better

i mean sure call it LAMIST for me to want more discussion time, but i have still yet to see someone disprove the idea that more discussion time is good for town.

and yes i can be appalled for a hammer, doesn't matter if mafmen apologized for it or not, a quickhammer is still a quickhammer and now all we have to do is believe his apology or not. i don't believe his apology, you can if you want.

here's how im feeling about everyone not that anyone asked

probable scum (mafmen, invis)
leaning scum on (manateeDude)
null (antihero, still)
leaning town (luckyotter, oath) (would like to see more action and engagement from both of these, and yes i do know lucky is V/LA)
town (guiltylion)

if you want me to clarify any just @ me

[OkaPoka]

except we weren't ready for a flip?

otter is on vla
manatee didn't even weight in on korina
oath has made 10 posts this game, albeit decent posts

[OkaPoka]

you put people at l1 to draw out reactions and pressure on them? i scumread korina yes but i want everyone else to discuss things before flip in case we get relevant info.

it's like if you are cop and you get a guilty, is the play to start the day saying im cop x is guilty lets go or maybe build a case and hopefully draw associative tells and other relevant info

[OkaPoka]

@manateedude
does this game make you feel frozen?

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: ManateeDude

for hopping off a promising L-2 wagon and keeping us in RVS longer

Its a random wagon. Idk what you're trying to say here in "promising"

L-2 = promising, creates pressure on all players
L-3 = boring, ineffective

what do you think of MafMen claiming to be sure that you're town? do you think you should already be obvtown to someone with his level of experience with you?

I tried to avoid meta here but im frozen as scum. I cant make reads that make sense, and I struggle posting and then what to post.

[OkaPoka]

so mafmen, based on meta is manatee still town or is he scum, i mean he even says he doesn't want to play which can be an indication of him freezing up and cya'ing

[OkaPoka]

@guiltylion does scum go this far to defend their scumbuddy?

mafmen had every opportunity to throw manatee under the bus but he hasn't

my scum team guess is falling apart

[OkaPoka]

invis is probs scum

hasn't really engaged in a meaningful manner with anyone

just skating by

[OkaPoka]

neither has manateedude but this mafmen is making this too much wifom from me

team is mafmen/invis/ someone else that might be manateedude

would like people to weigh in on whether scum would go that far to defend their scumbuddy

VOTE: invisibility

[OkaPoka]

do you everyone's take on otter or otter's take on everyone?

[OkaPoka]

do you want*

[OkaPoka]

yeah but there is a near zero percent chance of that happening

i mean does it really matter what manatee's alignment is if mafmen and invis are scum

[OkaPoka]

rip

[OkaPoka]

@oath could u explain why mafmen scum flip solidifies manatee as town and vice versa?

but yeah as guilty said all roads lead back to invis scum fmpov as well

[OkaPoka]

mafmen/invis/manatee is my vote for the team

[OkaPoka]

want to discuss anything or are we waiting for luckyotter/antihero/manateedude to come in and weight in

[OkaPoka]

40 minutes later and hi is still the only thing that u have to say?

[OkaPoka]

make a better case on someone else

hell make one on me and interact with me, im not good at defending myself either

[OkaPoka]

or just confirm your mafia so we can get to tomorrow

[OkaPoka]

invis what is your main account if you have one

[OkaPoka]

because ur giving me bad memories

who inspires your play? your mafia role model?

[OkaPoka]

unless manateedude is the scumbuddy

[OkaPoka]

unless anti is invis scumbuddy?

[OkaPoka]

i dont think i could win a 1v1 against you by arguing in mafia, you'd win each time lol

just hope invis and then mafmen flips scum so there would be no need

[OkaPoka]

worst case scenario imo is scum!antihero because he can argue his way out of being scum and probably get us to lynch anyone else while we are at it lol

[OkaPoka]

Keep going!

[OkaPoka]

oh wait you think im scum?

well that's where ur wrong kiddo

[OkaPoka]

you are entitled to your own opinions

[OkaPoka]

okay what's your scumteam guess

[OkaPoka]

gimme three names not 5

[OkaPoka]

i don't even know what you want me to respond to in that question.

feel like you are being snarky so meh

and that response is def snarky

[OkaPoka]

what do you want me to say? im just stating possibilities. im not going to push you until we get invis flip lol

[OkaPoka]

did u click the iso button on me?

[OkaPoka]

I'm still a lil tempted to pivot to Mafmen

like given the game state, who are being active posters vs who is inactive, and the consensus scumreads on Invis/Maf, the only way this game state really makes sense is if third scum is Otter/Manatee and the team as a whole has given up

worst case scenario where town!Invisibility and scum!Oka or scum!Oath, then Invisibility mislynch would be setting us up for chaos tomorrow

that's why we need content from those Otter/Manatee slots

worst case scenario imo is scum!antihero because he can argue his way out of being scum and probably get us to lynch anyone else while we are at it lol

[OkaPoka]

person 1:"pancakes are best food"
person 2:"waffles where its at man"
person 3: "fuck you person 2 for stating what you think, person 1 didn't ask for your opinion so fuck off"

yeah i guess i picked this fight but its reliant on invis flipping scum, whats so hard to understand. im not going to duel you until i get an invis flip

im just putting the thought out there because i feel like you are faking frustration at reading invis

[OkaPoka]

and in the scenario if invis/mafmen/antihero scumteam, you really want to mislynch me and force me to duel you because you know we only need 2 scum lynches to win.

so you are just going to waste time rn trying to sidetrack town, you don't give a fuck if it attracts attention because your posting style makes it pretty hard to win an argument against you

pedit: we are all frustrated at reading invis but i think ur faking it

[OkaPoka]

you are slightly abrasive, snarky and sarcastic, and very confrontational. doesn't matter what alignment you are, people will naturally respect your conviction and others will be unwilling to fully confront you because we all know we will be humiliated even if we are right because simply put, you are better at this than everyone else.

[OkaPoka]

what i mean anti is if id argue with you, i dont think id ever come out on top in any day with any scenario

i think its less likely if invis flips town and anti is scum because anti doesn't need to go out of his way to fake frustration

he could just join the wagon and be like oh shucks

[OkaPoka]

though this all depends on scum!antihero's self confidence in getting a wagon off of him

because if he wasn't confident in his standing with the rest of town, town!invis would be towncred

but im pretty sure most people read him as town so i think that this would be a pointless play by scum!anti

[OkaPoka]

well imagine harder then lol

whats the scumteam if u had to guess?

[OkaPoka]

@mod what happens when we reach the deadline without a lynch?

[OkaPoka]

yeah im going to need a better explanation on guiltylion from you otter

[OkaPoka]

is invis going to show up?

[OkaPoka]

You aren't bothering to put effort into game solving/asking questions or defend yourself and I am getting the vibe from you that you don't want to cough up any possible associative tells.

[OkaPoka]

not sure where being too scummy to be scum went

into the dumpster with all the other dumb ideas

[OkaPoka]

@invis why couldn't you be more vocal earlier?

[OkaPoka]

pretty sure it's still invis

[OkaPoka]

man i don't even understand genuine reads anymore

how do you guys even sort whether someone sounds genuine, to me genuine is something i say when im too lazy to explain deeper and i just have a gut feeling that they are town

[OkaPoka]

you are town right? there is no way scum you would be saying the things you are saying. I don't know why but I'm getting the impression that you are trying to make me doubt you.

[OkaPoka]

im tired and apathetic and paranoid in this game

i feel like scum is just pumping bullshit and i cant tell who is the bullshitter anymore. its all wifom. nothing is making sense, nobody is playing the way i feel like they should be playing if they were town or scum.

[OkaPoka]

I think we are going to need to see if manateedude makes a big post or not before we pass further judgement onto him. Manateedude being scum points to mafmen being scum, but mafmen can also be scum while manateedude is town so mafmen is the safer lynch imo/

[OkaPoka]

town: okapoka
probably town: guiltylion
leaning town: oath, luckyotter
nullish: antihero
leaning scum: manateedude
scum: mafmen

imo

tho i don't know why manateedude would just throw down so quickly in lylo, mafmen is probably scum and i think this might be a ploy for towncred if mafmen is scum from manateedude.
scumreading+PoE = scumteam (mafmen/manateedude/anithero)

[OkaPoka]

My scumread on Maf was largely related to Invis and now that we known Invis is town, I'm leaning town on Maf. I was convinced though that Maf vs Manatee was SvT, but if Maf is town that makes Manatee scum- unfortunately that's all PoE and I don't really have a recent read on Manatee, like ... at all. I initially thought he came off looking better than MafMan, but again largely due to the fact that Maf had been more active and I was suspicious of them avoiding voting Invis when I thought Invis was scum.

My first inclination with Invis town is to go with my gut and say Maf is town. The two people I thought would be most likely scum in this scenario are Manatee and Oka.
My nightmare in the situation is that the scenario I thought was least likely is likely and the scum team is Manatee/GL/ Otter

P-edit: ...so Oka has a sr on Anti too? In a world where Oka and Manatee are scum- would they be so bold as to try to break the hardest town read in the game, maybe especially given that Manatee scumread Anti but votes for MafMan. :/

@Manatee: what's your read on Oka? What about Otter?

what's the most likely scumteam then?

[OkaPoka]

what does "i think oka's my game betting read" mean

[OkaPoka]

oh ok

[OkaPoka]

yeah but its lylo

y would town just drop a vote this early in lylo

[OkaPoka]

its scary because its scum!mafmen and scum!manatee

[OkaPoka]

what is with this idea that mafmen and manatee can't be on the same team?

[OkaPoka]

what about the point of the game where mafmen was blatantly whiteknighting/defending manatee?

[OkaPoka]

Why are we basing so much on the premise that a quicklynched what have happened? Now we are assuming that first the scumteam are playing optimally and second the scumteam are all robots that coordinated this.

But yeah lets lynch maf today, whatever helps that helps. I'm not sold on an Oath lynch purely going off of scumreads tho. Her reasoning is faulty and dangerously presumptive but I don't see scum trying to gamesolve this hard. But I really dislike the fact that she is trying to bring statistics into a game thats entering lylo instead of scumreading.

But I still think the team is mafmen/manatee/thirdperson(who rn im going to put antihero)

[OkaPoka]

Why are we basing so much on the premise that a quicklynch would have happened*

[OkaPoka]

lucky is town

[OkaPoka]

Given MafMen scum, why does Manatee vote him right out the gate if they're paired together?

wifom? towncred?

manatee knows i hard scumread mafmen so maybe he thought he could get me on board?

if mafmen flips red manatee becomes obv town. if we lynch manatee first, he flips red, mafmen would also seem scum and town wins.

thus i think mafmen is the fall guy

[OkaPoka]

yes

[OkaPoka]

not even going to consider maf/manatee/anti?

[OkaPoka]

a) PoE is my case

b) idk, reading into votes rn seems like cesspool of wifom, i think this is all a ploy because manateedude is doing an extremely lackluster job of pushing his lynch and mafmen is also doing an extremely lackluster push. i don't actually think they want to lynch each other completely.

[OkaPoka]

they are being lackluster cuz its not real and fake and they are scum (mafmen and manatee at least)

[OkaPoka]

hi

VOTE: mafmen

[OkaPoka]

mafmen is scum please revote him

we can get manatee left

toodles

[OkaPoka]

no

lynch mafmen

when he flips scum you will thank me later

[OkaPoka]

mafmen -> manatee -> anti

scumteam

sheep me to victory

[OkaPoka]

"im the king of AtE" thats what the small text says btw

[OkaPoka]

i concur lets do this

[OkaPoka]

Me think, why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?

[OkaPoka]

probability of mafmen being scum is 99.99%

probability of manatee being scum is 99.98%

probability of antihero being scum is 99.97%

also ill read the rest of your post later lol

[OkaPoka]

vote mafmen please

[OkaPoka]

mafmen is always scum

manatee is probable buddy

anti may be the third wheel doesnt matter two lynches is all we need

[OkaPoka]

Anti is confirmed partner

[OkaPoka]

i concur

[OkaPoka]

@otter okay what is your scumteam?

[OkaPoka]

okay im done sitting here and watching town play statistics and wifom and then lose this stupid ass game when we should have lynched mafmen yesterday.

mafmen has
a) quicklynched korina
b) gone off the rails with his manateedude defense
c) has managed to take irrational positions that make no sense to anyone, not even to himself
d) is not putting effort in explaining is reads at all

it is appalling that the best reason for not lynching mafmen i can find right now is him being a village idiot. no
lynch mafmen
ffs

[OkaPoka]

Clarify what? I think mafmen is scum like i have been saying so i voted him

[OkaPoka]

i dunno felt like it was the right time to just vote him

maf+manatee+anti probably
unsure about the third, i guess it could be anyone but pretty confident in the first two tho

[OkaPoka]

i def wanted a hammer vote

because mafmen is scum

discussion got boring

[OkaPoka]

anyone else down for a mafmen lynch?

[OkaPoka]

its not a random l1

mafmen is scum

say it with me

if u vote me the bad guys win

[OkaPoka]

can u drop a thicc case on me so i can respond tho

[OkaPoka]

if we are going to waste time considering lynching me over obv scum then i want to respond to the case that sucks

[OkaPoka]

guilty, what have I done that makes you think I'm scum?

[OkaPoka]

i care because if i die we lose?

-not randomly shading, anti is what fits my team of 3
-are quickhammers ever justified day 1?
-i've gamesolved already, its mafmen/manatee/anti(maybe but unlikely otter but who cares, we need two)

paranoia is overrated lol. paranoia is making town play statistics and not scum hunting. paranoia is going to give us wifom and waste a couple days coming with insane scenarios that are only being considered because "what if?"

you don't see the benefits for scum to
a) quicklynch town
b) be painted as a village idiot rather than scum?
c) see b
d) see b

[OkaPoka]

guilty, if im scum who do you see as my partners?

[OkaPoka]

i dont know how otter scum game is but this is otter town game

whats your evidence for otter scum?

id lynch manatee tho

[OkaPoka]

so what's your scum team then?

[OkaPoka]

uh those be 4 teams not 1

[OkaPoka]

do u want me to pretend to be worried when I'm not?

[OkaPoka]

oh no guys have u considered that team might be guilty, oath, and otter? what if they have been playing us this entire time!!! wow guyz we might lose lets waste a couple more days discussion insane scenarios ! @! !#!

[OkaPoka]

what if we live in a world where both me and oath are town

[OkaPoka]

also i dont need to announce that im going to l1 someone i heavily scumread

[OkaPoka]

mafmen is scum

if he gets quickhammer, good?

i dont think otter is the third, but who cares we only need two

if im wrong destroy me post game but mafmen has done nothing to convince me otherwise

[OkaPoka]

idk

ill reread lucky and reevaluate i guess

i just dont really care about lucky i guess because i think i have two scum on lockdown

[OkaPoka]

Let me preface this by saying otter is not dumb.

With that out of the way let me also say that only having your scum buddies in your lynch pool and refusing to compromise is also dumb.

Therefore otter cannot be scum if mafmen and manatee are.

And the chances that otter is scum is lower than mafmen and manatee being town

so with that being said

otter is probably town

so unless im wrong on my double scum lock down, which i might be, otter is town.

[OkaPoka]

im interpreting it as desire/motivation

[OkaPoka]

im ok with a manatee lynch today as long as mafmen is tomorrow

but it seems like most people don't want to mafmen tmr and a lot aren't grouping mafmen and manatee

[OkaPoka]

you seem really set on selling this narrative of oka/otter/manatee

but why vote me?

im pretty sure there are more people here who are willing to vote manatee than me. if you are so convinced that you are right, the optimal play would be to vote manatee and push someone who is easier to lynch.

but also the optimal play is just to hammer mafmen right now and lynch manatee tomorrow.

[OkaPoka]

manatee should be confirm scum for you now if ur town mafmen

@mafmen so are you going to keep defending manatee?

[OkaPoka]

welp mafmen is confirmed scum to me

and his act around manatee is fake af

manatee should be near confirmed scum to me

all you guys have to do now is believe me

[OkaPoka]

either manatee/otter/okapoka is the scumteam or mafmen is scum

@oath @guilty @anti

whats more likely?

[OkaPoka]

what is thor tell

why is mafmen still alive

[OkaPoka]

its very mean considering that people on this website lolhammer

[OkaPoka]

imo there is a difference between reckless (which i dontl ike) and being cautious to the point of insanity.

i mean cautious has its benefits but im getting an apathy vibe from town. sometimes a little spice is needed.

but my play is purely because im bored of waiting around, mafmen is confscum

hammer him please

[OkaPoka]

theoretically a solid town will have cautious and aggressive players, a healthy mix. too much caution leads to zzz and too much aggression leads to no info

but we lynched all the aggro players, so now the moderates are considered reckless and aggro

im a moderate
i think

[OkaPoka]

kill
maf
men
please

there is zero scenarios in which town!mafmen would just make that connection
town!mafmen should know who the scum team is already
die
die
die
die

[OkaPoka]

do you actually think there is a chance that the scum team isn't manatee/otter/me?

[OkaPoka]

Oka will vote for Maf or Manatee, but is parked on Maf
Otter will vote for Maf or Manatee

shit maybe it is oka/otter/mana
manatee hasnt been here the entire game so theyre willing to bus him
wow

then why are you saying maybe its me/otter/mana

at the point of that post did you sincerely believe there was an alternative?

[OkaPoka]

lmao

can we just lynch mafmen

[OkaPoka]

i guess we can wait out the clock and mafmen will die that way

whatever

manatee tmr u fuks

[OkaPoka]

ur attempts at wifom are laughable

[OkaPoka]

just when i thought you stopped the "look at me im irrational!" routine

[OkaPoka]

W h e e

[OkaPoka]

can we get the mafmen scum flip already so oath can be like omg okapoka you are so good at this game and the rest of town is like yo okapoka maybe u have some good reads lets sheep you

tyvm

[OkaPoka]

unless scum was toying with us by not hammering l1 mafmen for a while for the memes game isn't over

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: manateedude

SHEEP ME

SHEEP ME

SHEEP ME

SHEEP ME

SHEEP ME

ok thx bye ill be watching closely, no naked votes pls, say something like "okapoka is right lets sheep him he big brain" then vote


kk

that is all

[OkaPoka]

If you actually think I hardbussed mafmen over oka yall are idiots.

VOTE: Anti

okay

ffs

does town actually do this type of shit

[OkaPoka]

the answer is no people

sheep me

[OkaPoka]

manatee/oath i think is the most likely mainly because oath's EoD panic thing is lame and she ended up hammering which means she has no conviction

manatee/guilty is second most likely because guilty you kind of didn't do much yesterday other than talk

manatee/otter is third because if otter commits to voting manatee then i find it unlikely that he wants to double buss and throw, not even going to consider because if he is double bussing i mean who cares then

[OkaPoka]

thats what shocking? not that he has 4 people marked town in 5p-lylo when we know there are two scum?

jesus christ please just lynch him

he is mafmening

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: otter

fuck this

[OkaPoka]

so we lynch manateedude tomorrow guys, they will probably nk me tonight

[OkaPoka]

okay lets lynch manateedude

[OkaPoka]

nah

im town

lolhammered for the funsies cuz noone wanted to sheep me

[OkaPoka]

slenderman game

[OkaPoka]

honest question manateedude,

did you actually vote antihero for realsies or was that some sort of master test?

[OkaPoka]

What in the fuck just happened

if you sheeped me we would have won but you forced my hand!

[OkaPoka]

;-;

[OkaPoka]

when scum pt gets released you see

but yeah we wanted to lynch you today if i got lynched yesterday

[OkaPoka]

dont be sorry mafmen that was art
gg


thx for the modding kublai khan

[OkaPoka]

According to the wiki scum is 3-0 and this makes it 4-0

game might be scumsided

[OkaPoka]

Having 3 mafia and only 6 town, none of them being confirmable town makes it pretty rough for town.

I think that if mountainous setups like this one require basically every player to be vocal and dominant.

Mafmen accidentally hammering Korina was probably the best thing to happen this game because it reduced content so much and the Invis lynch ended up not generating much content, and I think content is needed for mountainous games especially.

[OkaPoka]

I don't blame you for townreading Oath, especially in a game such as this one because half of the playerlist were being uncooperative and irrational and we need at least one person we can trust in this game otherwise we might get driven to insanity and what not.

[OkaPoka]

Who are u an alt of

[OkaPoka]

Turn vengekill target or all lynched townies into treestumps?

Would give town a confirmed townie to work with.