hello everyone!
VOTE: gamma
guttownpings from a50 thus far
yeah i was thinking this too; i don't think that there's anything that can stop scum from doing this really; at least not until much later on when we have more cop and/or doc claims/flips than are possible, but that's not something that can be resolved till later onIn post 31, Almost50 wrote:What you should be worried about is scum faking an inno on a townie for town credit and being treated as a townie for the rest of the game.
uh idk? i play with him a lot and i can just kinda tell usually and i kinda think he's town hereIn post 35, Spooghetioso wrote:why?
ye it would only be a good idea today imoIn post 38, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I would consider this but only today, and only if someone can give a really good reason to.
this feels partner-y between carca and implosionIn post 79, Carcalilly wrote:I HAVE TO PRESS ENTER LIKE 5 TIMES JESUS
Guys Unvote implosion yallre redicilus
you are now annoying me
what do u think gamma's scum meta is?In post 145, implosion wrote:This is Gamma's scum meta, right?
why is this a lie?In post 168, Gamma Emerald wrote:T H I S. I S. A. L I E.In post 90, PenguinPower wrote:I actually wanted to have some fun voting the newbie but I've never seen N_M say this much at all in any game I've played with him....ever.
VOTE: N_M
Not moving this vote all game until N_M is lynched.
VOTE: PenguinPower
i don't get why you're voting herIn post 182, BuJaber wrote:I don't like carcalilly's startbut then again it seems very ballsy as scum. But having an issue with the implosion votes was really odd.
VOTE: carcalilly
is this a serious vote?In post 190, Carcalilly wrote:I would vote you again if I could
who's doing this?In post 198, BuJaber wrote:Yeah I think gamma is town.Scum maybe trying to set him up as today's lynch pool.Seems like a stupid fight to pick with PP as scum and also it doesn't feel fake to me.
Scum pool: {implosion, carcalily, PP, hanshen, cmod, enigma} + A50 is a maybe.
can you refer to people by their names?In post 205, Spooghetioso wrote:the search results were confusing and i did not understand them
also the pokemon does not seem nice and why can we not vote dr monkey i mean i like dr monkey but i will still have to vote them if they are mafia
okay why is the penguin voting me i have not done anything
why is bujaber more-or-less claimed scum?In post 236, implosion wrote:a50 you're really tempting me to vote you instead of more-or-less claimed scum. Can you not do that.
i think this is kinda townie for how self-righteous/outraged he is and like how ... proud (is that the right word?) at having caught pp in what he believes to be a lieIn post 168, Gamma Emerald wrote:T H I S. I S. A. L I E.In post 90, PenguinPower wrote:I actually wanted to have some fun voting the newbie but I've never seen N_M say this much at all in any game I've played with him....ever.
VOTE: N_M
Not moving this vote all game until N_M is lynched.
VOTE: PenguinPower
qftIn post 280, Carcalilly wrote:I can't read spaghetti for the life of me
i read this like four times and i don't follow. implosion is scum for pushing town!gamma but what gamma did is nai (and thus gamma might be scum) so implosion isn't scummy for that anymore but if gamma is scum then implosion is too?In post 310, BuJaber wrote:Well it's a big fucking deal, if this is NAI for you then my TR on you is unfounded. You drop down to a nullread, the case on implosion falls apart because you might be scum, the SR on PP is slightly weakened because it is solely limited to his NM push now.
You just invalidated everything I did this game.
The only silver lining is you linked yourself to implosion (and slightly to PP). So at least if one of you flips scum the other is confscum.
I hope you're underestimating your own scumgame.
Updates: A50 town. Imp null. Gamma + skitter possible scum. (too many people voting me this early.. 100% 1+ is scum and since the wagon will probably dissipate for being an early one they think they'll be safe from scrutiny)
uh no?In post 314, BuJaber wrote:Creature, you, and gamma have sll played with me before yet all 3 of you are scumreading me.In post 309, skitter30 wrote:also i think carca may be town but i'm not sure; her playstyle is the sort that i have trouble reading
Carca who has never played with me before is townreading me.
You don't find that suspicious?
meh entranceIn post 322, CreativeMod1 wrote:How on earth do you guys talk so much in the space of 2 days xD haha
I feel like a lot of what people is saying and their reads and stuff are based on knowledge of players themselves and there seems to be a lot of filler stuff with no actual talk (like memes and big bold texts) stuff that to me is screaming out 'notice me senpai' see how much I'm contributing
this feels very black and white to me; it's an entirely possible that a townie can vote a townie for vague meta reasonsIn post 335, BuJaber wrote:Exactly. I don't see what the problem is.In post 316, implosion wrote:Unless you're going off of some notion that I should have been townreading gamma at that point but the new information you got made it so that I shouldn't have been townreading gamma, which I have even more problems with.
I thought I was right about gamma. So it looked like you wanted to lynch a townie. But now it's gamma himself that defended you so it's different.If he had not said anything then it follows that if he flips town you'd be scum because then I'd be correct that you voted a townie for vague meta reasons.
i'm v/la on fridays and saturdaysIn post 388, Carcalilly wrote:skitter needs to post just a little bit more
have you correctly read him in the past?In post 399, BuJaber wrote:This feels like town!NM
i think he's town tbhIn post 406, Creature wrote:Almost50 is most likely the third scum.
yeah i was trying to figure out if this was some variant of amishedIn post 413, Creature wrote:This is pretty scummy.In post 391, Music and Mail wrote:For the record the circumstances of my pred's replace out made me think the slot was scum, I was pleasantly surprised to be town.
i think you should get copped well before n5; that could potentially leave you alive in lylo and i could totally see scum!you proclaim a town!n5 cop who guiltied you as scum and force a 1v1 there and that's like the last thing i ever want to see happen in lylo;In post 415, Music and Mail wrote:I think the logical thing to do is say that if I'm alive to D4, any D4 cops target me. If none of them claim with an inno on D5, all D5 cops target me
lol noIn post 444, Music and Mail wrote:{Skitter30, Implosion}
italics - i was hedging around implosion a bit for [reasons] that i can't talk about right now. i literally can't elaborate on that tho. why is it more likely to come from scum!me?In post 461, Music and Mail wrote:feel like she should have used stronger wording wrt bujaber
feel like her reluctancy to townread you is more likely from scum her than town her.your alignment not relevant here.
no, i wrote that because i thought it was partner-y between implosion and carca; implosion had like two votes on him at that time and idk why carca's like second post was asking for those votes to be taken off of himIn post 458, Music and Mail wrote:this is just one example but incredibly lazy and unthoughtful reads
explain your feeligns on itIn post 458, Music and Mail wrote:going to just let this stand and not explain my feelings on it
no, i was saying that his thought process made like no sense to meIn post 461, Music and Mail wrote:More trying to discredit than make any meaningful comment about it
i don't understand the point he was making so i asked about it; i don't get why that's a townie thought process.In post 461, Music and Mail wrote:that wasn't the point here and I think town skitter would have seen it.
also an extremely towny thought process for Bujaber
i mentioned this; stating that it wasn't really discussed by others when i brought it up as a reason to townread him but citing lots of my other posts as a reason to scumread me kinda makes me think that your'e selectively reading my posts because i definitely mentined itIn post 459, Music and Mail wrote:This is a lot easier to miss than you seem to think it is and it really wasn't discussed by others.
==In post 37, skitter30 wrote:uh idk? i play with him a lot and i can just kinda tell usually and i kinda think he's town hereIn post 35, Spooghetioso wrote:why?
trying to quantify it: general enthusiam exhibited in posting +(maybe seriously?) claiming in his first postcoupled with telling people to lynch him day4
if the cop claims and dies tonight i will do everything i can to get you lynched tomorrowIn post 463, Almost50 wrote:If a N1 Cop claim thenIn post 459, Music and Mail wrote:I also claim N1 doctor.
Can a N1 cop claim and then I'll doc the cop, A50 will doc me?sure!
yeah that's why i'm voting you; i dont' think this is a real read you have on meIn post 482, Music and Mail wrote:That quote was accidental
but yea me and Postie both agree my read there is far more reliable and I'm like, really certain of that read and really accurate in general when I'm really certain of skitter reads, so.
some of her posts feel good tonallyIn post 490, Almost50 wrote:Hmm.. looking at the VC, I see none of the experienced players is voting Carca. Any reason why any of you TR this slot?
uh where do you think this happened exactly?In post 493, Music and Mail wrote:The Skitter-A50 interactions are vibing to me as SvS as well, and I specifically think thatA50 discussed going for the nightkill on me anyway and claim that he wifomed based on Skitter's reaction.
if you lot do something dumb and lynch me while i'm v/la (ie inb4 rc says something dumb like i'm scum because i'm not responding to him or something; i'm not going to have internet access from now till like tuesday night) please lynch this after i flip because this is not a real read he has on meIn post 495, Music and Mail wrote:Like her calling A50 out on missing the doc as opposed to me feels like a massive TMI read.
Please also note that as the standings are I havenever misread Skitter30.
Furthermore, I havenever failed to have her read correctly by the end of D1even.
So if you think that me being town is even in consideration, you're implicitly saying that you agree that Skitter30 is scum.
this game doesn't have daytalk; this is a dumb thing to pushIn post 497, Music and Mail wrote:scum topic, clearly?
I just remembered that this game has no daychat for scum but that doesn't change my concern that her questioning him and not me is a TMI read.
no, i panic-lurk when pushed and do my best to avoid real-time whenever possible as scum because i hate it because i actually have to think about everything i'm going to say and how i'm going to say itIn post 505, Music and Mail wrote:I mean there is little to respond to because I don't actually have a lot to say about the accuracy of anything you've stated because my read on you isn't based on the accuracy of things you state.
Also, you're perfectly capable of responding in real time as scum, you don't like magically need 2 hours to respond to things, you're selling yourself much shorter than you can get away with after PYP
do tellIn post 522, Music and Mail wrote:If you are town, Skitter, your townpool is overflowing with scum.
sameIn post 535, Music and Mail wrote:I still think you're a pretty cool person even if we don't necessarily get along in mafia!
wow, your tune changed pretty fastIn post 544, Music and Mail wrote:Or RC is town and you're scum and implo's ass is scum andSkitter... probably isn't scum, just being pocketed tbh but I feel like it would have made it easier to push yall by saying she was scum but okay.
this comes from town nearly all the time imoIn post 547, CreativeMod1 wrote:I AM THE N1 COP
As this information is now public, I'd like to hear from the town who I should investigate as I'm not 100% sure
Sorry I haven't been around a lot, the internet on my phone is being really bad and not working and I'm only able to get online like once a day, should be getting this fixed soon, I will try and be a little more active from now on though
Also 2 N1 docs? is that normal for this setup?
not until you're actually confotown lolnoIn post 554, Music and Mail wrote:to be able to lead lynches with the docs leashed onto me until I lead a single mislynch. 1.
this is a bad idea, no offenseIn post 556, Almost50 wrote:You've just set yourself for the lynch on D2. Why? To ensure your check on M & M is for real (I won't lose to scum faking Cop on scum. Sorry!).
please explain why you think creative and rc are partners together; more specifically why 547 comes from scum without daytalk (like i could buy that from an rc partner if there was daytalk but there isn't)In post 576, Almost50 wrote:Scum team -for now- could potentially be RC, implo & Creative.
VOTE: implosion
Let's play chicken. Let's see if RC drives this lynch home.
check mm; it'll make this game significantly easier no matter what his alignment isIn post 592, CreativeMod1 wrote:That's great and all but it skips the part that I want to have some discussion going about the check, I don't want just a straight up decision made, I wanna hear from the town and I want a range of suggestions put forward.
and meIn post 604, Music and Mail wrote:Implo's trying to hard not bus because he tried hard bussing last game and I called his teammates out for it
ohhhhh got itIn post 608, BuJaber wrote:I get one person who doesn't know me that townreads me. It felt like she had inside knowledge.
why is this misdirection ... ? it's a random aside commentIn post 617, Gamma Emerald wrote:How???In post 567, implosion wrote:This is quickly turning into a commentary on various forms of government.
This is such a ridiculous tangent it feels like misdirection
she had literally two posts and said nothing else iircIn post 678, Creature wrote:I don't remember Lovebird being inactive.
i could see scum!a50 trying to pull something like this offIn post 679, BuJaber wrote:Yeah but cmod could have still pulled this gambit off with A50
i said i was going to be vla for two daysIn post 687, BuJaber wrote:I have a reason to scumread skitter but it's reallly wifomy and fourth-wall-breaking...
With pick your power ending, she really genuinenly sounds like she's tired from playing scum. If she got scum here I think she'd want to replace out but I think she knows that if she replaces out she'll be autolynched so she's staying in but cutting down on how much she posts.
Plus as I said really believe at least one vote on my wagon was scum.
In post 700, PenguinPower wrote:Lynch implosion
In post 701, PenguinPower wrote:Why isn't implosion lynched?
lolololol this made me laughIn post 702, PenguinPower wrote:implosion is scum
again, getting copped tonight doesn't make you conftown todayIn post 725, Music and Mail wrote:I don't wanna make this any more difficult than it needs to be.
If I'm getting policy copped then I should get to counteract that minus equity by leading town as conftown, at least until I'm wrong once.
he's reminding me a little bit of math's stack-your-deckIn post 766, Almost50 wrote:Mate, you know I would never ever vote you, but you ARE giving me scum!vibes already by now. I guess you know why.In post 764, Not_Mafia wrote:Lynch Pengwing
yeah ok i still think a50 is townIn post 788, Almost50 wrote:UNVOTE:In post 780, Gamma Emerald wrote:This is shifty but A50 seems to know that. Weird that he’d post it knowing it looked scummy, but my first instinct is to call it Town A50
To me; Gamma is as Town as Creature is (i.e. highest degree of confidence). Scum!Gamma was supposed to attack me for this vote and the way I phrased the post. I don't think he can even afford to fake a TR on me under the circumstances, and he always has trouble figuring out what I'm doing so it would have been most easy for him to OMGUS me and appear natural.
this feels kinda townie too; i'm kinda changing my mind on youIn post 805, BuJaber wrote:I know this is my first game with you but you seem like you have higher BoP.
It's not fair, but creature needs to explain less.
But I'm just being an ass for the hell of it I don't actually have a point.
I just townread creature and I don't townread you so I'm being manipulated by feelings.
Objectively speaking your argument is better than creatures. Not to say it's necessarily good just better. But mafia isn't an objective game.
If you're scum doesn't matter how good your argument is we need to lynch you.
^^^^^^^In post 850, implosion wrote:I do want to make sure everyone is on the same page with regards to the night plan at this point: if CM1 dies, we 100% snap lynch music & mail, no questions asked. If music & mail dies, we 100% snap lynch Almost50, no questions asked. There are no objections to either of those, right? Just want them to be very explicit.
check them anyways because their hard to read, irregardless of your read on them please; it'll make the game easier for everyone elseIn post 853, CreativeMod1 wrote:What if I said I didn’t want to check M&M?? What if I say I have a strong town-read on them, now who would people offer up?
For now checking M&M is off the table, who do you guys think I should check?
And please don’t start being like “oh you must check them because it’s hard to get a read” or “if you don’t check them then maybe your scum” no, I’m trying to scum-hunt here, I wanna see some active discussion about who should be checked, maybe I’ll check M&M, maybe I’ll check whoever comes out from the discussion
all of it - ignorance about the setup and asking who he should investigate coupled with lolclaiming; it just feels townie and uncoached and guileless and agendaless and not scummyIn post 883, BuJaber wrote:Which part? Asking if it's normal to have 2 N1 docs? Or asking who he should investigate?In post 882, skitter30 wrote:this comes from town nearly all the time imo
i still don't believe that was a real read he had on me and the way he walked back his read doesn't feel real to me either; it felt more like he didn't want to continue the argument so he changed his read to something more convenient than something he actually thinks when i think he should be townreading me hereIn post 885, implosion wrote:Why do you make a point of this? His tune changed on you pretty fast in sneks.In post 882, skitter30 wrote:wow, your tune changed pretty fastIn post 544, Music and Mail wrote:Or RC is town and you're scum and implo's ass is scum andSkitter... probably isn't scum, just being pocketed tbh but I feel like it would have made it easier to push yall by saying she was scum but okay.
And yeah I'm willing to call CM1 >99% town.
oh, i don't know if it was in question; i was more kinda just mentioning that i thought that post was super townieIn post 889, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why is CM1’s alignment being question in the first place, and by whom?
in a game with at least four 1s cops i think you should be copped as soon as possible; there's docs around too in case you do become conftownIn post 894, Music and Mail wrote:Given that it is bad now and for the future to have this kind of arrangement I'm getting my lynches in return, to bring win equity back up to par and make it worth it.
This is a trade you're making, there's no leashed cops on me if your end of the bargain isn't held up.
i would guess that your'e an a50 gimmick alt but he's in the game soIn post 897, Nicholas Cage wrote:VOTE: penguin power
I have concluded that this is not just the best vote this day but the best vote in all days and in all games
Prove me wrong
lolololIn post 905, Almost50 wrote:Which reminds me.. YOU should join skygazer's game (currently in sign-ups in the Normal queue). Just take a look at the last page of the sign-ups thread to know why.In post 902, skitter30 wrote:i would guess that your'e an a50 gimmick alt but he's in the game soIn post 897, Nicholas Cage wrote:VOTE: penguin power
I have concluded that this is not just the best vote this day but the best vote in all days and in all games
Prove me wrong
is this in any way a serious vote?
yeah i was thinking brass too but it's the wrong timezone for him i'm pretty sureIn post 914, Gamma Emerald wrote:Or maybe not depending on what brass’ timezone isIn post 911, Nicholas Cage wrote:At dinner now I will catch up more later
i will revisit my read on him tomorrow if you die. as of now i still fairly strongly believe he's town and i have literally no interest in voting him todayIn post 918, Music and Mail wrote:I still think the odds are super high that a50 just kills me anyway and tries to talk his way out of it and given people like skitter are around hell probably succeed if I haven't already hit scum to prove that my reads are right.
yeah i was kinda thinking this too tbhIn post 943, Creature wrote:If M&M is scum, likely so is Nic Cage.
have you ever played forum mafia before?In post 975, Spooghetioso wrote:okay no im not going to listen to you anymore then that other person can get a train or something i dont care i will vote for you once i find that post that tells me how to vote again
In post 1005, Music and Mail wrote:No, so I can die anyway and A50 flails about how he thought scum would never kill me when there was a claimed doc on me and Skitter30 fakeclaims cop in his defense because she thinks her reads are the be all and end all and then town somehow manages to lose this from here.
i'm not ignoring your reads on the offchance that your scum and like bieng paranoid of you or whateverIn post 1014, Music and Mail wrote:people like skitter or mathdino or ruru or whoever you want to cite as an example think they're being original and creating a new avenue to beat me as scum when they refuse to listen to any of my reads and scumread me no matter what I do but I've been there and done that so many times with people doing that and it hasn't helped them that you'd think they'd get past it at some point.
In post 1041, Gamma Emerald wrote:No. When I flip town, never say you can read me again you egotistical fuckface.In post 1038, Music and Mail wrote:???
are you implying that the great PENGUIN POWER would claim scum as town?
I think not, heathen.
get yourself gone from my presence thou scumfuck.
i feel like this is kinda townie tbhIn post 1043, Gamma Emerald wrote:REPLACE OUT
I'm not playing a game where everyone has a pair of underpants on their head
i thought you were baiting the n1 kill; that you were more likely to be a doc than a cop; that you might be some other night than n1 but if that was the case you for whatever reason thought dying n1 was better than being alive on a later night (i don't know what that reason may be; i don't udnerstand what you do half the time)In post 1077, Almost50 wrote:You know, sometimes I hate to explain the obvious. Did anyone (aside from probably skitter) ask themselves why I claimed on PAGE ONE?
Which reminds me: The post M&M quoted was the reaffirmation of my claim. My original claim came in post #8, and it may have looked like a casual jokey entrance, but to players such as skitter & BuJaber (and the trio of Creature/Gamma/N_M to a lesser degree) the message was clear: If you're N1 Cop say so and let me protect you. I got excited when skitter responded with her hypo-innos query, since I thought that was her signalling Cop and asking for confirmation. It turned out not to be the case, but no harm was done.
Wouldnt have posted at all till i ended vla, hoped he had forgotten about it by then and read the entire thread before responding in a wall that i had rewritten like six timesIn post 1103, implosion wrote:skitter I'm pretty sure you already answered this so feel free to just point out that you have (i'm too lazy to search your iso atm) - how, as precisely as you can, would scum-you have reacted to RC's pressure, instead of doing the stuff that you said scum-you is incapable of doing?
OkIn post 1122, Music and Mail wrote:you can mislynch town who say stuff that you don't approve of after I'm deadIn post 1121, skitter30 wrote:Im not really feeling this carca wagon tbh
Youre making this game incredivly frustrating for meIn post 1132, Music and Mail wrote:Skitter is actually the lynch tomorrow: I don't think that she's more than 5% scum but I legitimately think we're more likely to consecutively lynch scum by removing her vote from play.
no, this isn't a thing that we're doing; implosion's still townIn post 1191, Music and Mail wrote:VOTE: Implosion
ok ok this never stopped being scum let's just lynch it and we can sort out other people later
i'm tryna like figure out the team around him and nothing really makes sense to me
i guess like lovebird can be scum with anyone but
if you're serious about this i'm treating this as a scumclaimIn post 1199, Music and Mail wrote:Actually fuck it nah
creativemod1 check Implo for me to confirm that he's scum
don't trust you guys to sheep me even with a confirmation that i'm town.
and posts like these are why i think you could be scum with the lovebird slotIn post 1206, Music and Mail wrote:Because Implosion is scum. I was literally drunk when I unvoted him and as soon as I looked at his ISO again I was like yeah this guy is lockscum.
Lovebird is a 'safe' lynch in the sense that it's going to unoffensively hit town and it's exactly what's going to be lynched
it's not worth the toil for me to fight this town, i'll let everyone get the bad decisions out of their system today and lead tomorrow.
idk it doesn't feel like a scummy reactionIn post 1211, implosion wrote:idk what about carcalilly's reaction looks townish, the entire thing looks null, like i believe she thought she was hammered but that is still completely null
the fact that i townread literally everyone he majorly pushed today is like a major red flag. the fact that he keeps taking those reads back and going elsewhere is also a major red flag, as is retroactively stating his scumread wasn't actually as strong as he made it out to be when he first presented it; i feel like he's looking for lynches that people won't protest to too muchIn post 1214, implosion wrote:the state of the game makes more sense in a lot of ways if he's scum, and his trajectory of being this confident on this many people in the way and order that he has is probably more likely to come from scum, though there were some other things from him I thought were weakly town.
no this isn't a thingIn post 1217, Music and Mail wrote:if you selfvote and get everyone to help me lynch you we'll put creativemod1 back on me, sure?
I just don't have the energy to bulldoze this through.
hey i'm here for a bitIn post 1242, implosion wrote:It's kind of shitty and I need skitter to dialogue with me. Or one of my other townreads.
i very strongly agree with this for the record; i think he's trying to give the impression that he's younger than he actually is and/or that english is not his first language; some of the words he's 'mixing up' are really really weirdIn post 1263, Music and Mail wrote:postie has a very, very strong opinion that Spoogh is faking their newness which I agree with, I just did'nt necessarily think it made them scum until I ran out of other scumreads.
uh no that game we were hard-townreading each otherIn post 1312, Music and Mail wrote:you would have said this the same game that we actually were SvS too then.In post 1310, Carcalilly wrote:I’m going to write in my notes that it’s completely impossible for skittem&m to exist
you literally haven't pushed *anyone* i don't townreadIn post 1315, Music and Mail wrote:Particularly given the 'oh you wagoned my scumreads' and I ended up coming to the same conclusion that they were town that you did on... most of them
this is how I sort people when the answers aren't readily apparent, I wagon people and see what comes of it.
the fact that you can only see the scum possibilities and not the town possibilities is kind of depressing.
uh idk i'll figure it out thenIn post 1320, Music and Mail wrote:It's about the calibre of distance play, not the specifics of it. Maybe Keychain/myself in Mod is Mafia is a more obvious comparison but I stand by the statement.
Skitter, how does our next game go once it's mod confirmed to you that I'm town here? How does your approach to me change?