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Oh of course I do. I just haven’t played with Shoshin since Labrynth.In post 80, the worst wrote:
NANCY!! <3In post 77, AlmostNancy wrote:Hey guys, this is the Nancy head. This game seems like fun. I’m really glad, I finally get to play with Shoshin again.
you're not glad you get to play with me again?
<3
This reminds me a bit of CoH, except with A50 and me hydraing and you in a different slot. Oh and we have a decent mod in this game.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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This reminds me of Labrynth tw. Do you agree, Shoshin?Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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He had a very similar post in there.In post 87, Shoshin wrote:What feels similar to Labyrinth, Nancy?
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Nancy out of respect for your play, I am going to suggest this is a bald-faced LIE.In post 48, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Hi guys, I’m looking forward to this game.
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Shoshin and TW are town. Waiting on Creature but I’ve never seen him fakeclaim anything, so for rn, I believe him.In post 90, Mitillos wrote:@the worst: I'm sure you're perfectly fluffy. Aggressiveness is a separate property altogether. We'll probably talk at length later. As for Irellephant, I've seen a ton of games he joined late or didn't talk for a very long time (ignoring these), and a bunch of newbie ones where he is the SC (ignoring these too). Other than that, looking at his recently finished games, I've seen three games where he doesn't wagonjump a lot as a townie, and one where he does as mafia. Unless someone else who has played with him a lot wants to provide additional data, I'm going with this and with the OMGUS on me, so now my vote is serious. Could you explain your Performer vote? I thought his post was pretty standard RVS.
@Nauci: If it ends early, that's how you know it worked. :Þ
@AlmostNancy: Any reads yet? Also, any response to skitter's request about signing your posts?
It’s easier to form reads on players I’ve had meta with. Sorting the rest of the playerlist, will take actual work.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Sorry, I tend to forget. All the posts so far have been mine, so if A50 wants to make it to Almost51 . . .In post 33, skitter30 wrote:also i want almostnancy to sign their posts cuz i can read a50 super well and i've never played with nancy so i want to try to sort them based on a50's postingHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Haven’t played with them before but they seem fine so far.In post 15, Shoshin wrote:Seems pretty town for Irrelephant.
Especially for you, Skitter.
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Interesting, the bolded because wagon jumping is something I tend to associate with town!Creature. Of course, we don’t have much to go by yet on him.In post 90, Mitillos wrote:@the worst: I'm sure you're perfectly fluffy. Aggressiveness is a separate property altogether. We'll probably talk at length later. As for Irellephant, I've seen a ton of games he joined late or didn't talk for a very long time (ignoring these), and a bunch of newbie ones where he is the SC (ignoring these too). Other than that, looking at his recently finished games,I've seen three games where he doesn't wagonjump a lot as a townie, and one where he does as mafia.Unless someone else who has played with him a lot wants to provide additional data, I'm going with this and with the OMGUS on me, so now my vote is serious. Could you explain your Performer vote? I thought his post was pretty standard RVS.
@Nauci: If it ends early, that's how you know it worked. :Þ
@AlmostNancy: Any reads yet? Also, any response to skitter's request about signing your posts?
How many games have you played with Elephant before?Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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If you’ve never played with him before, how are you so familiar with his meta?In post 104, Mitillos wrote:@Irrelephant: You jumped votes between your first two posts (which were within a page of each other) as mafia in micro 824.2 (and I note that on that one your jump was away from the wagon on your scumbuddy).
By comparison you took longer to switch votes in mini normal 2042 as town, and even when you did switch, you almost immediately unvoted.
You also took your time to switch votes in mini 2018 again as town.
I'm having trouble finding the third one again, so maybe I was wrong about that. But hey, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
@worst: Irrelephant himself claimed that he likes wagons. Shoshin said that his first two posts were Irrelephant-town. I was looking to match or counter these claims. I don't know about your Performer position. It was his first post and still early in the game, so I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to be out of RVS like that. You had the benefit of 3 fast-paced pages, but he wasn't here to be subjected to that. I just don't see it as alignment-indicative.
@Shoshin: See above for numbers of the games. Also, reason for your Performer vote?
By the way, this might become a recurring theme, so just to address this in advance: I will always ask why people vote for people, if they don't provide reasons (assuming I spot this and am not busy with other discussions). I consider anything less than explaining oneself clearly as being anti-town at the very least.
@AlmostNancy: That was about Irrelephant, not Creature. Anyway, I have never played with Irrelephant. If I'm not mistaken, I've played two games with Varsoon, and maybe a couple of games with N_M? Those might have been MishMash, though. Everyone else is a complete unknown to me, unless they are alts.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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no u
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In post 33, skitter30 wrote:also i want almostnancy to sign their posts cuz i can read a50 super well and i've never played with nancy so i want to try to sort them based on a50's posting
You're kidding. Right? I mean, if you can't tell my posts from Nancy's posts you're in dire need for some serious help already!Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Speak gibberish, GDI!In post 64, the worst wrote:I got tonal towny tingles and minor bonus pointsHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Oops! I retract my claim though (although it's totally true)In post 67, Mitillos wrote:Creature because I don't much like it when people say something like "I'm a survivor" (or similar) early on for no reason and tend to automatically be biased against them.
It's a ploy. We've all conspired to keep you from posting and then lynch you for lurking. Looks like it's working so far..In post 67, Mitillos wrote: Fifth p-edit: Good lord, I'm just never going to manage to post this, am I?
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I typed a response.. decided it was too improper.. and deleted it.In post 80, the worst wrote:
NANCY!! <3In post 77, AlmostNancy wrote:Hey guys, this is the Nancy head. This game seems like fun. I’m really glad, I finally get to play with Shoshin again.
you're not glad you get to play with me again?Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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A50 responding here:In post 90, Mitillos wrote: @AlmostNancy: Any reads yet? Also, any response to skitter's request about signing your posts?
1- Yes. I've read up to this post I'm responding tom thank you for asking.
2- Notion overruled.
The defendant may now step down. Thank you.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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because she received the same role PM I did, duh! You don't think I'd roll scum in my first game with Nancy, do you? That would be unfair and ever cruel to her sanity (to see my scum game from the inside out).In post 91, Irrelephant11 wrote:shoshin why is nancy town?Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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I'll sheep you on Shoshin. I can't really read her myself (at least not in my previous 2 attempts).In post 94, AlmostNancy wrote:Shoshin and TW are town.
The duck is a town lean, yes, but I wouldn't be betting money on it just yet.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Bad response, strategically speaking (Yeah, I wasn't here when Nancy did this).In post 101, AlmostNancy wrote:
Sorry, I tend to forget. All the posts so far have been mine, so if A50 wants to make it to Almost51 . . .In post 33, skitter30 wrote:also i want almostnancy to sign their posts cuz i can read a50 super well and i've never played with nancy so i want to try to sort them based on a50's posting
See, the best way to read skitter is to get on her nerves and make her a little bit ancxious/angry.. just a little though. Once she ticks you (or rather I) would be able to read her better. As long as she's well composed and calm her town meta can easily be faked as scum (this only applies to the start of the game though. Later down the road she will inevitably show me her hand)Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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You ain't played the monkey yet..In post 104, Mitillos wrote:@AlmostNancy: That was about Irrelephant, not Creature. Anyway, I have never played with Irrelephant. If I'm not mistaken, I've played two games with Varsoon, and maybe a couple of games with N_M? Those might have been MishMash, though. Everyone else is a complete unknown to me, unless they are alts.
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Finally, a useful subject.In post 107, Mitillos wrote:Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?
If you think it should be shared then by all means, do share. If not then don't. Like why would you be telling us there is -say- a player with the loved modifier when we will get to know that later on anyway? On contrast, why would you hide something like -say- "all scum have guns" (unless you yourself are the Gunsmith).
Note: No. That's not a hint or a crumb. It's a reference to this game where I was indeed an informed Gunsmith who knew the scum team all had guns (all = both of them).Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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OK, this sucks, but probably hints there are not enough fake claims for every single anti-town role, so they've been given some to pick from when they need to? Or it could be the other way around and there are too many that the mod felt like letting scum pick froma large pool! Hmmm.. never mind. Useless line of thought there. (Unless someone very familiar with the flavor would like to chime in)
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FTR, I have yet to properly read the rules and/or research the flavor. I also skipped all flavor videos (but I promise I will go back and catch up on all that stuff once I'm AWAKE enough. Right now I'm running on my spare battery and if that fails then I might as well drop asleep on the keyboard)Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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I wouldn't call ginger hot.. just a little spicy. Try Mexican chili pepper.
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Consider yourself marked.In post 115, Saudade wrote:mark me town b!tches
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Again: Not a crumb, so if anyone has the role, please don't CC. Thank youHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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GOOD GRIEF! How did you guess?In post 130, the worst wrote:MACHO DISLOYAL-VIGGING LOYAL-SUPERCOPPING LYNCHPROOF TREESTUMPHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Trust me, skitter can talk much sometimes. The question is whether she's providing genuine content or just babbling. I say she's Town here.In post 150, Keyser Söze wrote:@skitter - you having a gut town read wasn’t my problem.
I think it was the over-explaination of the gut read (that I thought had undertones of sheeping Shoshin’s reason)
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I suppose it would depend on what that information consists of I guess, because you also wouldn’t want to help scum. So, as long as sharing that information is good for town, I’d say yes. Otherwise, maybe not such a good idea.In post 107, Mitillos wrote:@AlmostNancy: I'm not. I did what I said I was going to do in post 67, and had a look at a few of his recent games. If you mean why I was looking for the wagonjumping in particular, it was because Irrelephant himself used that as an explanation for his votes here, and because Shoshin (who has presumably played quite a bit with him) said it seemed like town Irrelephant behaviour.
Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?
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Okay, good to know, since ninja is usually a scum role.In post 156, Mitillos wrote:@Nancy: The thing is scum already has a lot of information, since scum know who they are. Information is the one thing town is lacking. My real worry is something that skitter touched on: we'd lose information from those who are nightkilled, and I like information. And now I've said "information" so many times it's weird.
Anyway, I think the information I have is good for the town to have in advance, and unlikely to be something that scum don't already know (since they have daytalk per post 0), so I will go ahead and share it:
There are no roles with the ninja modifier.
I'm liking skitter quite a bit, so far. Since "gut" is useless on its own as an explanatory tool, attempting to communicate her reads better is what good town does.
@Shoshin: I would still like an explanation for your Performer vote, please.
Anyway, I’m townreading you for this post.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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I sincerely hope A50 can decode these videos for me.
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Hey, Varsoon, we need to be higher on this list, because you forgot my townread on mitilos. Please fix that.In post 278, Varsoon wrote:15 Shoshin townreads Irrelephant immediately (If pocketing, it's clearly worked, Irrel thinks Shoshin is 99.9% town here as of the most recent page)
23 Irrel says Creature is town, then takes it back when Creature claims survivor.
24 Shoshin says Mitillos is town-ish.
27 Shoshin reiterates that Irrel and Mitllos are town, doesn't provide rationale for Irrel but does for Mitillos.
30 Irrel says Shoshin and The Worst are town, posits skitter as more-likely town than not
70 Skitter comes to the conclusion that Mitilos can be 'town for now'. There were earlier talks of low-key town reads from skitter but I didn't take those as the bold townread this is
84 Skitter calls basically everyone who's posted town besides The Worst: mtilos, irrel, creature, nauci, shoshin
89 Shoshin calls Nancy town. I actually really don't like this one because it seems to be indicating to Nancy that 'this is a repeat of Labyrinth, remember that one game I was town, yes, I am town here'.
94 AlmostNancy calls Shoshin and TheWorst town.
98 TheWorst calls Shoshin town.
117 Keyser townleads Shoshin, early recognizes lots of Townreads coming from Shoshin and TW.
125 Saudade calls TheWorst town.
140 AlmostNancy's other head sheeps the first on a Shoshin TR.
146 Skitter calls AlmostNancy town
171 Skitter voices a strong town read on Mitillos
192 TheWorst calls AlmostNancy town
So If I'm keeping a Town-vote-count here:
Shoshin (5):Irrelephant, Skitter, AlmostNancy, TheWorst, Keyser
TheWorst (3):Irrelephant, AlmostNancy, Saudade
AlmostNancy (3):Shoshin, Skitter, The Worst
Irrelephant (2):Shoshin, Skitter
Mitillos (2):Shoshin, Skitter
Creature (1):Skitter
Nauti (1):Skitter
So, Skitter and Shoshin obviously hand out the most townreads here.
In the case of both of them, I don't really understand how they've come to all of these conclusions.
Shoshin's garnered the most townreads, and this is within 200 posts--8 pages.
Look at that, though; there's more TOWNREADS given than votes--17 townreads, only 10 votes in that time (and this is only counting hard townreads, though my count may be off on votes)
That's wild to me. That's a clear indicator that someone's not being genuine.
And if you look at the data, it's got to either be skitter or shoshin.
Here's where this gets really wild:
Shosin's got townreads on most the players townreading herself.
Skitter's not being townread by anyone but is still giving out a ton of townreads.
I don't really know what to make of it, to be honest.
And I think I'm getting way more onto having more information than analysis here, but
I don't think Shoshin's reads are genuinely informed. I think Shoshin's townreads are hugely based on how players are reading Shoshin and how much Shoshin is capable of influencing others by handing out TRs.
That's what I was feeling when I voted for Shoshin. That's what I still feel now.
What do you all think?
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I want to be clear that my aggression re:Shoshin is entirely at their play. Shoshin's a good dude outside of game and I apologize if they take any of this personally, that's not my intent.
These recent votes make me want to rejoin the Shoshin wagon but I feel very biased and I'm worried this might just be a ploy to drag me back in with the level of vitriol I had before.
I want to really sit down and assess this.
@Performer: It's entirely in Shoshin's town!wheelhouse to write someone off as scum like that, from my experience. I'm trying to parse if it's actually Shoshin's intent to lean into that kind of play or if it's just them being town and making a poor judgment call, influenced by bad blood.
@Xtoxm: What do you think about the way that Shoshin's handled their TRs, though? How is Shoshin scum for TRs but not Skitter as well?Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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You forgot mitilos but I want to add you now too, because I want to win Varsoon’s townreading competition.In post 283, Irrelephant11 wrote:honestly I think the moral of the story is shoshin/almostnancy/theworst should be the unbreakable townblock for the entire gameHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Isn’t that typical for the first 10 pages? Usually when people go back and reread them after some flips, do most players form really strong scumreads.In post 289, Varsoon wrote:
I'm not re-reading those first 10 pages ever againIn post 284, AlmostNancy wrote:P.edit. I think you’re barking up the wrong tree, you shoild be cataloging scumreads instead. Scum frequently has a disproportionate ratio of scumreads v townreads.
If you wanna do that, be my guest, though it's hard to parse who has a legitimate scumread and not just 'bad vibes' or is voting someone for pressure.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Except for the survivor claim. Creature isn’t one to fake claim - especially as scum. Take it from me, I was scum with him in Heroes Wanted and he was terrified to even post in the scum PT, for fear of slipping up. However, that role in general is easily fakable but Creature really dislikes lying.In post 326, Keyser Söze wrote:
I don’t think he’s done anything so far that scum-Creature couldn’t easily replicate (that’s not me saying I’m an expect on Creature scum-meta)In post 315, Shoshin wrote:
I thought the humor in his posts around 250 were townish.In post 312, Keyser Söze wrote:Creature should be a null read for everyone right now.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Seriously? 3 votes on Shoshin? I think there’s probably at least one scum on that wagon.
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Sorry, this morning it’s all been me.In post 359, Shoshin wrote:Hey AlmostNancy, can one of you sign your posts? I can't tell which of you is posting.
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Wrt the bolded, that was me.In post 252, Performer wrote:It's like people are actively making it hard for me to keep up in this game...sigh
Ah ok, it's because you're the only person I haven't played with or even heard of.In post 67, Mitillos wrote:I am not an alt. I just haven't played in a very long time. Also worst posted before irrelephant.
the posting - I checked again and it was because of my pg dn key, it scrolled past the mod's wall posts all the way into Irrel's post so I thought that was his confirm itt.
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oof burnIn post 83, AlmostNancy wrote:Oh and we have a decent mod in this game.lol I somewhat agree with a50
though I would change "decent" to "superb"
Well, my first thought is I don't have any experience in ever seeing someone say something like this. But if someone is informed and wants to share it, I'd say it depends. I don't think it's a black and white one-size-fits-all solution.In post 107, Mitillos wrote:Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?
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I would like to hear your teacher read in particular, also Performer, since I already have meta with Varsoon and Creature, although I wouldn’t consider myself anywhere adept at being a confident Varsoon reader at this point. I feel pretty confident I can read Creature though.In post 329, Keyser Söze wrote:I actually have (old) playhistory with Creature, Performer, Varsoon and teacher (?) so may dig up those games
I can definitely remember playing with Varsoon (I can remember swearing at him )
Anyway, I’m liking you so far.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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How?In post 368, Nauci wrote:Since I feel strongly about performer and/or xtoxm, this temporarily clears teacher in my eyes
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In post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.
So, it’s townier to have no reads?In post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin
I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick moveHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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I’m not really seeing why Performer is scum here. I disagree with his Shoshin vote but otherwise, nothing is really hard pinging me at this point.In post 252, Performer wrote:It's like people are actively making it hard for me to keep up in this game...sigh
Ah ok, it's because you're the only person I haven't played with or even heard of.In post 67, Mitillos wrote:I am not an alt. I just haven't played in a very long time. Also worst posted before irrelephant.
the posting - I checked again and it was because of my pg dn key, it scrolled past the mod's wall posts all the way into Irrel's post so I thought that was his confirm itt.
lol I somewhat agree with a50In post 85, the worst wrote:
oof burnIn post 83, AlmostNancy wrote:Oh and we have a decent mod in this game.
though I would change "decent" to "superb"
Well, my first thought is I don't have any experience in ever seeing someone say something like this. ButIn post 107, Mitillos wrote:Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?if someone is informed and wants to share it, I'd say it depends. I don't think it's a black and white one-size-fits-all solution.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Interesting you’d say “lying” as opposed to just wrong.In post 380, Xtoxm wrote:Yeah, because anyone claiming strong reads this early in the game is more likely to just belying.
So, lemme get this straight. According to you, everyone who has claimed to have a strong read - either town or scum - is more likely to be straight-up lying than wrong.
Wow, this must be like the most scum sided game in the history of Mafia then.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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P.edit. By wrong, I mean not sure.In post 390, AlmostNancy wrote:
Interesting you’d say “lying” as opposed to just wrong.In post 380, Xtoxm wrote:Yeah, because anyone claiming strong reads this early in the game is more likely to just belying.
So, lemme get this straight. According to you, everyone who has claimed to have a strong read - either town or scum - is more likely to be straight-up lying than wrong.
Wow, this must be like the most scum sided game in the history of Mafia then.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Well, I do find it scummy in general to fix quotes without giving some hint as to what was changed. I read Shoshin’s whole policy lynch on Varsoon thing as a joke, much like I read TW’s promising to lynch us tomorrow as one.In post 386, skitter30 wrote:ok the game like doubled since i went to sleep last night lol; might take more than one post to catchup
if they're scum together why would he say it here instead of in the scum pt?In post 179, Nauci wrote:106 I have very WIFOM thoughts about this post and the use of "same team" instead of "both town." I would think scum faking this banter would take care to say "town" instead of "same team"? But then again, if this was a casual thought typed directly into the box without too much thought for manipulation, it felt quite scummy.
i don't really think saying 'same team' instead of 'town' is much indiciative of anything tbh
except that it's all-encompassing and he might be referring to past games where they were svt and other games where they were tvs, and 'same team' kinda refers to both past scenarios in one phrase if that makes sense
(i don't know what their history is)
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@saudade - is 'the cat' referring to nauci?
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how do you characterize town!varsoon?In post 206, Mitillos wrote:Oh, cool, Varsoon is here. Now to sort out whether it's N's N. N. N. Varsoon, or Among the Chosen Varsoon. So far he looks like his town self, so that's not a wagon I'm interested in atm.
fair enough, but i'd like to hear a little later since i'm not suepr great at reading himIn post 218, Mitillos wrote:@Shoshin: I'd rather not talk about that quite yet, and wait to see what he does for a few dozen posts, instead of just saying "Hey, Varsoon, here's how you can convince me you are town, enjoy".
Also, I wouldn't consider it a waste of time, so I'd like to see your response to Varsoon, but I won't insist if you really don't want to.
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just curious, was the 12 supposed to be here?In post 210, Saudade wrote:עד מתי נוב12
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i mean we did this last timeIn post 214, Varsoon wrote:I provided plenty of reasons for my scumread.
You just saying that there's not any is literally wrong.
Once again, Shoshin
You're either scum or your judgment is flawed.
Which is it this time?
from your posts on the last page i can tell you're not following her thought process. ie the things you called out from her i don't think are actually scum-indicative from her really, but i can understand why you're questioning them; i also think it's unlikely that you'll get answers to those questions from her
i think she's obvtown for her
i'm trying not to engaging her because she frustrates me, so i'm content to have just sorted her and move on with my existence
i think you should listen to me/irrel here given that we tried to tell you this last time and were right
i haven't sorted you yet
do you ever pick fights with people on purpose as scum?
what were your most recent scumgames again?
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ok, what do you think of me doing that?In post 221, Varsoon wrote:Furthermore, me taking umbrage with people having easy townreads isn't even a scumtell or a towntell, it's literally what any player should do regardless of align when, within 6 pages, there are over a dozen thrown out 'this person is town' naked reads.
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i disagree with his reasoning for why he exluded your se games but i can understand itIn post 222, Irrelephant11 wrote:Someone stop me - I feel like mitillos' scumread of me is agenda-y, and I would not like to tunnel on town if I am wrong.
holistically i'm tending town on him
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i disagree that i sheeped youIn post 224, Shoshin wrote:As for trajectory, did I need one? It's post 51 of the game. But sure, here's the trajectory: I asked Skitter a question about her read on Mitillos, because I felt that she was sheeping me. As you can see later in the game, when I explain the vote on Skitter, I state that the reasons I suspected Skitter were due to the way she was following my reads (as well as others) instead of forming her own, which felt very different to me than the way Skitter played as town in my prevoius two games with her. That was my trajectory. A question, followed by a vote when I saw someone else had the same feelings. I strongly believe that having others who share your feelings about something adds strength to the force behind those feelings, and in this case it did. That isn't "spineless," though - it's just smart play.
i had similar conclusions as you did.
that doesn't mean i had them *because* you did, or that i was trying to mimic you on purpose
like i'm not sure how you can even possibly distinguish sheeping you from forming my own reads that incidentally were similar to yours at that stage and i dislike that you assumed it was the former instead of the latter (i've previously told you how i feel about sheeping even ...?)
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i think i retract the townlean i had on creature earlier
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this post is kinda pinging meIn post 264, Performer wrote:
Fixed.In post 197, Varsoon wrote:It's kind of baffling that you propose a policy lynch on me and when Irrel + The Worst + Performer deny it outright
I dont like policy lynching (and for that matter I dont believe in the notion of "too scummy to be scum")
i'm not sure which way yet
i'm putting it here so i hopefully remember to go back to it at some point
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ok starting a new post
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Okay, I’m starting to understand A50’s townread on you. Definitely agree with you on militos.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Do you not have an opinion on my post or was that one it?In post 392, Xtoxm wrote:You know if varsoon wasn't in this game I would just replace out at this point because the attitude coming from many players is totally disgusting
If so, I officially throw my hat in the ring for the “disgusting” contest. Based on your quirky creative interpretations of words, I think this one has real potential.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Why are you so sure xtoxm is a mislynch? Is this based on meta?In post 382, Irrelephant11 wrote:xtoxm you should post more so that it is harder for nauci to mislynch youHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Militos, the worst, you, Skitter, Varsoon, I think are town. Irrelephant11, Keyzer, townleans for now. I haven’t ISO’d everyone yet.In post 407, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, what're your reads so far?
I think at least one scum is on your wagon. Unfortunately, I have no meta on any of them.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Well, it was so freaking obvious that she was joking. Because her and Varsoon haven’t the best history, I can understand him not getting it but anyone else?In post 351, Nauci wrote:
Further self conscious posting that makes me suspicious afIn post 264, Performer wrote:
Fixed.In post 197, Varsoon wrote:It's kind of baffling that you propose a policy lynch on me and when Irrel + The Worst + Performer deny it outright
I dont like policy lynching (and for that matter I dont believe in the notion of "too scummy to be scum")Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Oh okay, I know nothing of his meta but you and Shoshin both in agreement, like on anything, gives me comfort.In post 387, Varsoon wrote:Performer's double-back onto Shoshin while parroting my reads right after I fell off the wagon seems like reason enough.
When Shoshin flipped town, I'd be the one to catch the rap for it and Performer could sneak off into the shadows, having successfully got a lynch on someone that about half of town reads as town.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Okay adding you to my town list and strengthening my townread on Irrelephant11.In post 352, Nauci wrote:
This is the least original post in the gameIn post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin
I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick move
Varsoon are you going to call out this plagiarism
My naughty list is currently xtoxm, performer, and possibly Keyser but that's just for having been relatively quiet for keyser
I think I really like most of this playerlist. Glad I signed up.
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Nope, we’re mindmelding on that.In post 444, Shoshin wrote:I've got Irrelephant, the worst, Nauci, Nancy, Skitter, and Mitillos as town.
Creature, Varsoon, NM, Key, Saudade, teacher, and xtom are varying degrees of null, some leaning town, others scum.
Performer's still scummy, but the "Fixed" post actually has me rethinking whether scum would actually play this badly. So I want to reevaluate a few things.
As a starting point, does anyone disagree with my townreads?
As for your null reads, lurking isn’t a good sign for NM and I’m not liking xtom’s excessive negativity. Haven’t ISO’ Saudade yet and need more info on teacher. Not currently concerned with Varsoon, Key and Creature.
What about Schaad and Mastina? Why aren’t they posting more?Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Why are you calling him “Harpoon”?In post 462, the worst wrote:
That's funny, I thought this was more like his town indicative habit of pushing fairly abstract reads and being highly reactive more than his scum habit of trying to pluck members from the towncore. Do you think scum!Harpoon leaps in and attacks the most widely townread player this way?In post 212, Shoshin wrote:comparingHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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Right. No hinting or suggestive comments. How about the direct explicit ones though? I always go for the naked truth.
Now I'm confused. First you say no innuendo, but now you say no stating something. Which is it?
You mean like.. they should provide surveillance camera feed that they caught their teammates stealing from the gang?
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It's easier than easy. If you think it's a decent and cute post it's Nancy's. If you think it's bold, crazy or convoluted it's mine.In post 359, Shoshin wrote:Hey AlmostNancy, can one of you sign your posts? I can't tell which of you is posting.
Come on, Shoshin. You played both me and my naughty twin brother (AP).
@Everyone: This is Shoshin hard distancing with our slot, but also truly confused about which of us is posting. It's because I told her to go easy on Nancy because Nancy is emotional, while I am bold and well composed under pressure so Shoshin should be throwing all she can at me when I'm online. Now you know.Hydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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BOOM! Slam dunk!In post 378, AlmostNancy wrote:In post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.
So, it’s townier to have no reads?In post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin
I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick moveHydra of Almost50 and Nancy Drew 39
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