Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

[Wake1]

Hey all.

My general play-style Day 1 is to lurk in the background. Take a breath. Breathe out.

I'll be observing Day 1, and going hardcore Day 2 and on. That's how I roll. I'll still pick at things during Day 1 if they catch my attention. I'm probably going to make a copy/paste post about this for all games I play, because it gets annoying when some ree in light of this information.

I'll be observing in the background. Please don't assume that I'm not present when you're posting.

[Wake1]

Oh look, all it says is Scumlean.

Cool!

[Wake1]

In too deep so you can’t back out, huh?
I'm sorry if my behaviour is too “try hardy" for you.
Nah,

fuck that

, why should I be apologising for your shitty behaviour? I play this game to win. That means pointing out shit I find scummy, and not giving ANYONE a free pass.
You’re playing this game to win too, but from the MAFIA's side. You lurk around with your non-game progressing behaviour, and the

second

you see something easy to push, you’re in there like a fucking Nazi going to Argentina.

Intent to hammer if Rob ever hits L-1.

I'd prefer you dial it down so we don't have to policy you.

[Wake1]

Wake as town is usually more brief when talking about his observing. And when people question him on it, he usually responds and interacts with them.
Here, his first post is very defensive, and he has solidly ignored all questions and interrogations since then. He shouldn't be given a free pass.

I hate Day 1 shenanigans. I need something to actually work with.

Observing for now.

It's been awhile.

If Scum could hurry up and get nervous that'd be great. I pick up on nervousness​ extremely quickly.

Gonna read through the last 2 pages. Don't ask me how I play, or tell me how to play. I play as I play. I play at my own pace. That said, do routinely ask me questions and engage or I will destroy you if you're Scum.

Hey all.

My general play-style Day 1 is to lurk in the background. Take a breath. Breathe out.

I'll be observing Day 1, and going hardcore Day 2 and on. That's how I roll. I'll still pick at things during Day 1 if they catch my attention. I'm probably going to make a copy/paste post about this for all games I play, because it gets annoying when some ree in light of this information.

I'll be observing in the background. Please don't assume that I'm not present when you're posting.

You shouldn't use posts from very old, past games to determine my current gameplay.

A lot has changed in my life, as has me as a person.

[Wake1]

I got prodded.

Sheeeeit.

I'm here, but also working nights. Anything new currently?

[Wake1]

Looking over the game soon.

[Wake1]

This is why I dislike Day 1. So much bickering.

Do we have any solid arguments currently? I am able to contribute a little more now.

[Wake1]

Do you want us to discuss about Mayan temples?

Would you judge me if I said yes?

[Wake1]

I already know I'm not ever going to be lynched in this game, so I'm going to break the ice because I want to involve all other members of Town. I'm hoping this is not an unwise play with my role, and am hoping there's a protective role out there.

I am a Town Vigilante. I can target anyone at night and kill them. I don't particularly trust my own judgement and aim because I am not as deep into this game as other players are. So I want to include everyone else in this decision, the decision on who we vote for me to kill each Night. I'm hoping this is the right move, and that someone in this game can and will protect me.

[Wake1]

This fighting needs to stop.

All it does is benefit Scum.

[Wake1]

You may want to read my latest post, Robb.

[Wake1]

OK Chill let's have a play-by-play on how you voted me and then Creature in only 3 consecutive posts.

[Wake1]

Multiball is only in Large Normals.

[Wake1]

So far, not sure who to vote for.

Kind of Townreading Garmr. I feel Tchill is awfully careful, but I've never played with him before.

[Wake1]

Now that I've got a laptop I can actually read the game easier. Skitter's giving me some Townvibes with her paranoia and unagreeableness.

Tchill seems to be perched in a way where he can comfily observe but not really playing the game, while appearing to play the game. I could shoot him tonight.

Robb's usually an explosive, emotional mess. I have yet to see how that translates when he plays as Scum.

Menalque and Bob I don't currently have any strong thoughts on.

Garmr I know of him, but not enough to even try to tell his meta. I do feel he's actively playing the game, which seems Townie, although Scum can just as easily do the same.

[Wake1]

I'm looking at Menalque being at L-2. What's the boiled down reason behind each vote on that wagon?

[Wake1]

Yeh the vc is correct but wish it was showing menalque has been lynched and is mafia. Just need more votes to make that a reality.

Hm...

[Wake1]

Here’s where I’m at more or less. I haven’t had a chance to catch up and as I’m shortly gonna drive to Geneva I may not be fully caught up by deadline either.

That said, I quite like reading off the first pages anyway.

So, I’m inclined to say garmr is town, has actually been engaging with people, giving reads, pushing shit, from a brief ISO skim. I’d ideally meta him but for now he can be town.

Skitt is just always provisionally town until she’s scum. I have like mild concerns about her but not enough to put her in my bottom 3 which means she stays as town for today.

Robb comes across as mildly townie from the early pages, although I find him really hard to read and maybe I’m just reading him not being toxic for once as him being town? But again, there are scummier people so he’s town by PoE.

I’m town, duh doy.

Wake is really null but townier than anyone left, so he’s in town.

Then creature is mildly scummy from hectic slot but still not actually in my top 3 scum so he also gets to be town for now. Also find him a nightmare to read, same as hectic. Not really sorting there.

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BEF is like my loosest SR in that I’m not actually sure I’m SRing him. I just didn’t like him suggesting early on that rob/hectic was theatre, didn’t like his reason for leaving his vote on wake post RVS, but neither are really reasons to be scum exactly. Felt like he was making excuses to not do stuff right at the beginning but there’re enough posts in his ISO that I guess he has at least been posting even if I don’t know how much merit those posts have yet.

Tchill is when we start to get into actual SR territory. Didn’t like 60 where he suggests that “any decent scum [would] pour fire on this flame” which seems to me to be pretty LAMIST in a manipulative way. Like “any scum would do this please notice how I’m doing the very opposite”. Just sits with me wrong.
Also agree with my predecessor that he was fence sitty on rob/hectic. For instance in 58 when he talks about how hectic is always scummy and he won’t defend him if he gets run up, while treating them both as town in 60 where he’s asking them to both tone it down so town stands a better chance of winning

Bob is also scummy imo. Feels like he’s chainsawing garmr for his read on tchill, while also claiming it’s a meta read. Like that’s conflicting to me, or at least it is in how he’s presenting both arguments in his ISO depending on when/who’s asking. Really don’t like 527 where he says his meta read on garmr as “his town games are more like just pulling on a thread rather doggedly irrelevant if he is right or wrong at that time” — which I think is what makes sense from garmr here given how he’s been pursuing tchill, regardless of whether you agree with him on tchill!scum or not. Plus the way he’s trying to shade skitt for not having read him correctly in the past. Idk the whole thing sits wrong, plus I’m willing to sheep garmr/skitt to a certain extent. Especially if skitt is more town than scum, which she is, then I trust her instincts

I think I want to BREAK this neck.

And you will point exactly why.

What you just said rings hollow to me, and I will have your head today.

VOTE: Menalque

[Wake1]

*SNIFF*

*SNIFF SNIFF*

I'm smelling resistance regarding the Menalque wagon.

[Wake1]

Tick Tock Tick Tock

Why are you refusing to vote Menalque?

[Wake1]

There's Scum among Menalque and Garmr.

[Wake1]

There's Scum among Menalque and Garmr.

Wake can you stfu I'm doing something.

Oh?

I'm finna do something tonight, too.

[Wake1]

There's Scum among Menalque and Garmr.

Wake can you stfu I'm doing something.

Oh?

I'm finna do something tonight, too.

Fine I'm ok with being shot tonight. Will you lynch Bob today or tommorow if you shoot me tonight?

What is the reason for voting Bob?

[Wake1]

If we were to lynch Bob, but he flips Town, I would have to kill someone between Menalque and Garmr.

[Wake1]

There's Scum among Menalque and Garmr.

Wake can you stfu I'm doing something.

Oh?

I'm finna do something tonight, too.

Fine I'm ok with being shot tonight. Will you lynch Bob today or tommorow if you shoot me tonight?

What is the reason for voting Bob?

Sweet i'll just type it up but it may not be fast becuase my net is conking up so i'm prepping in case it does it again.

I don't need a wall.

I need 1-3 sentences. That's it.

[Wake1]

We're almost at 12 hours, people.

[Wake1]

God, I really don't want to hear all the bitching if I hammer bob right now and he turns out to be Town.

He's at L-1 which is fine.

I'd like to have him claim first. Please no one hammer before he claims.

[Wake1]

Tchill, Bob3141, you need to make some choices soon.

[Wake1]

The fact you don’t know why I scum read your predecessor is proof alone you aren’t townie. No real attempts to sort anyone either.

That's hardly fair.

[Wake1]

Second. He flat out called me scum, treated me like scum but later claimed he was sorting me.

People do that all the time in Mafia. Hell, here's an example:

I'm going to kill you tonight you Scumfuck if you don't give me a good enough reason why I should Scumread Menalque.

See? Pretty easy. Sometimes people do this to get a reaction, because reactions can be used at times in telling someone's alignment.

[Wake1]

The fact you don’t know why I scum read your predecessor is proof alone you aren’t townie. No real attempts to sort anyone either.

That's hardly fair.

Sure it is. It means he hasn’t read the game. His reads are fake cause he would have to read the game and if he did he’d know why I scum read him.

Doesn’t matter. What rabid did is confirmed scum. If the people in this game can’t see it then i guess we’ll lose.

I had read something Rabid posted that got deleted. Please refresh my memory on that.

[Wake1]

Also, sorting alone doesn't make you Town. If it did then the most active Scum would always win by mere virtue of being active and sorting.

While sorting is helpful to the Town, in no way does it make you Town, or lack thereof make you Scum. For example I hate Day 1 and rarely post, yet I'm always Town.

[Wake1]

The fact you don’t know why I scum read your predecessor is proof alone you aren’t townie. No real attempts to sort anyone either.

That's hardly fair.

Sure it is. It means he hasn’t read the game. His reads are fake cause he would have to read the game and if he did he’d know why I scum read him.

Doesn’t matter. What rabid did is confirmed scum. If the people in this game can’t see it then i guess we’ll lose.

I mean how is not having read the game proof of anything? I’ve read 7 pages and I’ve read everything since I joined

Why is town!me more likely to read the game than scum!me?

My reads are not fake, even if they’re limited from a lack of information

I'd like to know who you top Scumread and top Townread currently is, please.

[Wake1]

...where is Bob by the way?

If he wants to live he should probably shift his vote.

He hasn't site-flaked, has he?

[Wake1]

The fact you don’t know why I scum read your predecessor is proof alone you aren’t townie. No real attempts to sort anyone either.

That's hardly fair.

Sure it is. It means he hasn’t read the game. His reads are fake cause he would have to read the game and if he did he’d know why I scum read him.

Doesn’t matter. What rabid did is confirmed scum. If the people in this game can’t see it then i guess we’ll lose.

I had read something Rabid posted that got deleted. Please refresh my memory on that.

[Wake1]

I guess I’ll stop trying also. Nobody else wants to. Just call me a lame duck or tree stump or whatever. If others don’t want to take the game seriously. Why should I.

For someone being in a game that requires working together to uproot the enemy you really need to get it together and start being a team player.

[Wake1]

I wasn’t aware rabid’s posts got deleted. Hectic’s did.

I want to know which post you're referring to that has solidified your current vote.

[Wake1]

Wake why did you claim vig?

I already know I'm not ever going to be lynched in this game, so I'm going to break the ice because I want to involve all other members of Town. I'm hoping this is not an unwise play with my role, and am hoping there's a protective role out there.

I am a Town Vigilante. I can target anyone at night and kill them. I don't particularly trust my own judgement and aim because I am not as deep into this game as other players are. So I want to include everyone else in this decision, the decision on who we vote for me to kill each Night. I'm hoping this is the right move, and that someone in this game can and will protect me.

[Wake1]

And also because I get so worn out by peoples' bitching and paranoia.

[Wake1]

Are you gated?

What?

Okay also why do you not trust your own judgement?

Because I'm part of the uninformed majority and this is Mafia we're playing.

Point to me a cock-sure Townie and I'll point at that bullshitter too.

[Wake1]

Are you unlimited in shots or do you only have a certain number?

And I’m asking because you seemed like very confident that I was scum after I posted my thoughts on the game and that seems odd from someone who’s apparently not that trusting in their own judgement?

Unlimited.

I don't think you're familiar with my playstyle. It's part of how I Scumhunt.

Being very trusting of one's own judgement is the Achille's heel of many a Town player.

[Wake1]

Can we @ Bob from here like we can on FB?

[Wake1]

*Calling Bob we need you in the break room to talk or you're gonna die. Over and out.*

[Wake1]

Well, I'm not getting blamed for this one if he's hammered and flips Town.

I'm going to bed.

Y'all have a little over 8 hours to figure it out.

[Wake1]

Mena i actually kinda want to vote you tho

If you switch to Mena I'd be OK with claiming intent to hammer.

But if you do anything do it quickly, because my butt is in bed and fading fast.

[Wake1]

let's get one thing straight: the only way you know anything is if you're scum so stop preaching that bullshit line

This would mean that you were scum with me.

I know that your predecessor did things no town would or should do and nobody can explain those actions as town. For some reason they have chose to ignore it which is highly frustrating.

Only people I want to vote today are on bob’s wagon. So I’m not thrilled that I may have to hammer that wagon. The counter wagon to yours. Counters are almost always on town.

Everything points to you scum. So yes I can say I know in my soul you are scum.

You all suck.

Cyrus, I can't see the latest CV but I am voting the person at L-1, hammering them. VOTE: Bob[/B]

Seriously, you all. WTF.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Bob

[Wake1]

Where the fuck is the latest vote count?

Was Bob at L-1?

[Wake1]

I'm assuming Bob was at L-1 when I hammered.

Mod, I don't want a no lynch. Whoever was at L-1 I am hammering.

[Wake1]

You are a toxic player Robb.

I should really shoot you tonight to get you the fuck out of this game.

[Wake1]

I targeted Menalque last night for the kill.

Obviously, something happened that stopped it.

Be on the lookout for Scum attempting to attack tour Town Vig from that angle.

[Wake1]

And I

don't

want to hear any bitching about hammering Bob. We had less than 15 minutes left and we can't afford a no-lynch.

[Wake1]

Are there any Normal Power Roles that can redirect a NK?

I don't know about a massclaim. I'd like to hear everyone else's thoughts before doing anything.

[Wake1]

Why ask if your target died?

I’m opposed to mass claim and skitter mentioning it just makes him scummier.

Creature was NOT my target.

Menalque

was.

[Wake1]

creature has died last night he was Vanilla Townie

.Sample Role PM
Player —

Vanilla Townie

Greetings, creature Welcome to Mini Normal 2108. You have rolled Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
Voting — During the day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

[Wake1]

Oh, the kills were listed in two separate posts.

[Wake1]

Thoughts on lynching Tchill?

[Wake1]

If we massclaim Scum would just call themselves VT. Only useful if a PR had a result.

[Wake1]

Thoughts on lynching you, Tchill.

There's no multiball in Minis, ergo only one NK.

By killing Menalque I was hedging my bets, so that of Bob was mislynched than the opposer, Menalque would possibly be Scum and die as well. Apparently they were both Town.

What we need to do is analyze who did what regarding these wagons, and who hopped/shifted during it. I bet at least one Scum didn't vote (gut feeling).

[Wake1]

Are there any Normal Power Roles that can redirect a NK?

I don't know about a massclaim. I'd like to hear everyone else's thoughts before doing anything.

No, there arent.

You're ungated, right?

Pretty sure this was answered earlier.

Yes, I'm ungated.

[Wake1]

I'm against a massclaim, too.

[Wake1]

I'm surprised I wasn't killed last night.

Perhaps they thought I'd kill Robb? Perhaps Robb is Scum and was preemptively defended him?

I'm thinking there's no Roleblocker. If there were why wouldn't they target me? Unless they thought I'd shoot Robb and they knew he was Town. FFS I don't know.

If there ARE any results from any Town PRs today...

...perhaps they should be shared. Any new information I can work with while I'm still alive would be extremely helpful.

[Wake1]

so you're just a vig that can kill every night phase? in a 9 player game?

Yes.

[Wake1]

Now we know Menalque is Town, I'd like to revisit with you why he was Scum, Robb.

[Wake1]

the creature iso makes me want to lean towards BEF scum.

the fact that wake is a vig in this game that is

UNGATED

make me believe he is scum.

if there are 2 scum wake is conf scum imo.

someone needs to talk me through how town could have an ungated vig in a 2 or 3 scum 9 player normal game.

There were two NKs, Tchill.

Multiball is not allowed in Mini Normals.

[Wake1]

i understand both points.

how does town have an ungated vig in a 9 player game where 2 player scum teams are possible?

youre talking about the opportunity of ending the game in 1 day phase.

if a 3 man scum team is the case youre talking about giving town 2 day phases alone to catch scum.

Share with me in detail what you're thinking, Tchill.

[Wake1]

Are you saying I'm Scum, or are you setting it up for a Vig counterclaim? Or do you simply doubt there being an ungated Vig?

[Wake1]

multiball is multi factions correct? or is that when scum has the ability to make multiple kills in one night phase?

Only one kill per faction can happen.

And because this game is not multiball there's only one Town and one Mafia faction.

[Wake1]

given the fact that it is a 9 player game an ungated vig only can be justified in my eyes as a scum roll.

if scum have 2 players its balanced imo.

if scum have 3 players and town have 2 then youre talking about only 2 day phases to catch scum and its over.

if scum have 2 players and the vig is town then town could theoretically win the game in one day phase, which is unbalanced.

So your position is that I am Scum?

[Wake1]

I am confirmed Town.

If Scum was content to let me shoot between Menalque and Garmr than perhaps Garmr is also Town. I don't recall saying that I would for sure shoot Menalque, just that I'd shoot within those two. If Garmr were Scum would they really take that gamble?

[Wake1]

Slow your roll Chill and Skitter.

We're gonna play this slow. Reeal slow.

[Wake1]

With 6 left alive, I'm not inclined to lynch/shoot Garmr. I need him to come to my side and contribute. For now Garmr is off the table. Thank you.

That leaves Tchill, Robb, BEF, and Skitter. There's two Scum.

I want to know Robb's Scum-meta.

I'll have to shoot one of you dead tonight. But who? Scum would have to kill me tonight. Or they could pull a fast one and kill Garmr.

If we mislynch we die unless I plug Scum. But if one of those 4 get mislynched I WILL kill within the other 3, giving me a 2/3 shot in taking out Scum, giving Town another Day to figure this out.

Guys, NO voting yet. Just say who you'd vote, not actually cast the vote. Scum could quickhammer for game with two votes, and they probably have Daytalk.

[Wake1]

Tchill, thoughts on lynching Skitter today?

[Wake1]

Tchill, thoughts on lynching Skitter today?

skitter is good as scum which weighs a lot into what im about to say.

I think she'd see the fact that leaving you alive indirectly practically conftowns 2 players even though you kill an extra townie. I could be giving her too much credit but this is where im at.

Could you elaborate further, please?

[Wake1]

Would you vote to lynch Skitter today or no, Tchill?

[Wake1]

Tchill, tell me again why you voted Creature.

[Wake1]

More that he might be bp, although he's claiming he isnt so

Why?

[Wake1]

Would you vote to lynch Skitter today or no, Tchill?

[Wake1]

More that he might be bp, although he's claiming he isnt so

Why?

I dont get what you're asking

Why do you think there's be a BP role?

[Wake1]

Why are you so certain of Robb or BEF over Skitter today, Tchill?

[Wake1]

Please no one vote yet.

We've got lots of time, and I need to reread the game.

[Wake1]

So many pe edits. But yeah I think BEF is scum

I need actual reasons for lynching him.

[Wake1]

Hello back to the friendly neighbor! (don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim)

Details, please.

[Wake1]

(don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim

"don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim"

I will only out before if the other person wants me to or is in danger of a lynch. Don't want to give scum any info on a conftown if not needed.

If it's just a Neighbor/Neighborizer role without any useful results then I don't care about it. Any useful information, however, I do.

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I find it interesting Garmr is claiming macho when hectic in his post that got deleted said he should fake claim macho.

I still like skitter for scum. Garmr isn’t confirmed town. Nobody is really except wake which is rather unfortunate

I’m town but if y’all think Lynching me wins the game then go for it.

I remember this.

[Wake1]

I find it interesting Garmr is claiming macho when hectic in his post that got deleted said he should fake claim macho.

I still like skitter for scum. Garmr isn’t confirmed town. Nobody is really except wake which is rather unfortunate

I’m town but if y’all think Lynching me wins the game then go for it.

I'm not finding it in his ISO, but his comment was in a spoile

I remember this.

[Wake1]

God my phone sucks.

His comment was in a spoiler tag.

[Wake1]

If the Friendly Neighbor ability was used it needs to be confirmed NOW by both parties...

... please.

[Wake1]

Guys, could you all please help me confirm if Garmr is Town?

I had said I'd shoot between Menalque and Garmr, and never said who (although Menalque was the counter-wagon and could be seen as the obvious target of the two). Either Scum already knew Garmr was Scum and figured I'd just shoot Garmr, or that Garmr is Town and they figured they'd let me shoot either of them.

[Wake1]

Tchill seemed to be quite on-board with the idea of Garmr being considered Town (by my side).

[Wake1]

Who here is currently opposed to Tchill being lynched?

[Wake1]

Who here is currently opposed to Tchill being lynched?

I don't think Tchill is scum partners with anyone as he doesn't make sense with anyone as a team from my pov.

Oh?

[Wake1]

I really need BEF to come in and contribute more.

I don't want him getting mislynched for not being active.

[Wake1]

(don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim

"don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim"

I will only out before if the other person wants me to or is in danger of a lynch. Don't want to give scum any info on a conftown if not needed.

Look, if you've got information that someone is Conftown we need you to share that information right now.

This is mislynch and lose time. I am confirmed Town. If we mislynch today I can still put a bullet in someone (unless I get stopped), and if you can Conftown someone else that ups our chances of me hitting Scum tonight

So... I am asking you to please share this information. If we mislynch today, there's a chance we lose the game.

[Wake1]

I'm getting paranoid of tchill/garmr

It's a bitch trying to sort this out.

[Wake1]

We should just massclaim, there's no reason not to

Yeah, I think now is the time.

[Wake1]

I really need BEF to come in and contribute more.

I don't want him getting mislynched for not being active.

TAADAA, ask and you shall receive...

Sorry. Been on daddy duty since my kids kindergarten is closed today and tomorrow but I'll post when I can.

The rational and statistically sound option is to lynch from the bob wagon. If that wagon was all town then we are doomed anyways.
Let's start at the beginning.

VOTE: skitter

Who's Conftown?

*cocks trigger*

[Wake1]

I really need BEF to come in and contribute more.

I don't want him getting mislynched for not being active.

TAADAA, ask and you shall receive...

Sorry. Been on daddy duty since my kids kindergarten is closed today and tomorrow but I'll post when I can.

The rational and statistically sound option is to lynch from the bob wagon. If that wagon was all town then we are doomed anyways.
Let's start at the beginning.

VOTE: skitter

Who's Conftown?

*cocks trigger*

Well, you can assume I wouldn't vote them.

I need you to share your result.

[Wake1]

I need confirmation.

I'm not going to make assumptions based on vague hints.

If BEF can confirm someone is Conftown NOW IS THE TIME.

[Wake1]

I need confirmation.

I'm not going to make assumptions based on vague hints.

If BEF can confirm someone is Conftown NOW IS THE TIME.

I feel differently. It's not my place to out this person atm. Don't you see that helps scum to POE as well.

How does it help them and not us?

They are already the informed minority, not us.

Any scrap of USEFUL information we can get our hands on is very important.

We're in MYLO.

Info that can help increase our chances of lynching Scum today is critical

Like having a Conftown on someone via Friendly Neighbor.

If we lynch wrong, WE LOSE. And I'll blame you personally for it.

[Wake1]

Not really but ok

Refusing to explain how you got your reads is scum indicative. I have yet to see you do anything to help town. So yes really.

Explain to me how having a Conftown on someone via Friendly but not sharing it during MYLO is not Scum indicative.

[Wake1]

BEF you need to Unvote for now and also need to share your Conftown result.

If you were just bluffing about the Conftown result you need to share that as soon as possible.

Otherwise I'm going to vote you and push for your lynch.

[Wake1]

Not really but ok

Refusing to explain how you got your reads is scum indicative. I have yet to see you do anything to help town. So yes really.

Explain to me how having a Conftown on someone via Friendly but not sharing it during MYLO is not Scum indicative.

Why out it if they aren’t a threat to get lynched?

Because if we mislynch I wouldn't then SHOOT that person instead of Scum

[Wake1]

Not really but ok

Refusing to explain how you got your reads is scum indicative. I have yet to see you do anything to help town. So yes really.

Explain to me how having a Conftown on someone via Friendly but not sharing it during MYLO is not Scum indicative.

Why out it if they aren’t a threat to get lynched?

Because if we mislynch I wouldn't then SHOOT that person instead of Scum

If we lynch skitter or Garmr we won’t mislynch

I don't know that.

[Wake1]

BEF, if you don't share your Friendly Neighbor Conftown result (or retract) I will be shooting you tonight.

[Wake1]

I need everyone to unvote.

I am off work the next three nights and will (and need to) reread through this game.

[Wake1]

Why are you being dumb?

Robb, do you understand we're in MYLO?

If BEF has a Conftown result, it needs to be shared now.

[Wake1]

Imagine being confirmed Town (and a Vig) and someone says they have a Conftown on someone else from a Friendly Neighbor, but they won't share their result...

...during MYLO.

What game am I playing? Why are these people not sharing game-changing information during MYLO? What the fuck?

[Wake1]

OK, I'm not playing this game if you fuckers don't want to work with Conftown Vig Duri MYLO. Fuck that. If you won't fucking share the information Town NEEDS then I'm calling out both you Robb and BEF as Scum. Town has absolutely NO reason to withhold such important information.

VOTE: BEF

[Wake1]

BEF is Scum.

He is lying and will not help Town by revealing the Conftown.

He is lying, he is anti-Toen, and must by lynched today.

[Wake1]

you ok with me voting him?

I am.

And if we mislynch today the blame is solely on BEF and Robb for being blatantly anti-Town.

All BEF needs to do is reveal the FN.He has NO REASON not to during MYLO

[Wake1]

BEF is Scum.

He is lying and will not help Town by revealing the Conftown.

He is lying, he is anti-Toen, and must by lynched today.

The FN could just out their role if they wanted. I just find it funny that skitter who has the leading wagon right now is pushing for info that will have no effect on those who are voting her.

Reveal the FN or you're going to get lynched or shot.

[Wake1]

If there's a Friendly Neighbor in this game, I need you to step forward.

I am confirmed Town. I need you to help me. It would make analyzing the VCs far easier to do.

[Wake1]

At this point I don't even care if Skitter's Scum.

BEF withholding this vital information from me deliberately in MYLO when I am confirmed TOWN is intolerable.

[Wake1]

I suspect BEF is actually Scum, and he knows if he names his partner as FN, and either of them die, they lose

[Wake1]

What I really need to do to hurt Scum is take a good sleep, read through the game thoroughly, and then actually engage.

I'll be back tonight.

[Wake1]

Skitter, please place your vote on BEF.

[Wake1]

If Scum doesn't quickhammer while I sleep, we break BEF's neck when I wake.

[Wake1]

why the hell are you bullying people? first you insult people and now you bully them? and you have the nerve to call me toxic?

I'll get to you next if BEF flips Scum

[Wake1]

If you won't help Town by revealing the FN, then this is how it goes down.

You are literally with confirmed Town and refusing to share vital information WITH the Town.

How do you expect NOT to be seen as an enemy to Town doing that?

[Wake1]

*fighting with.

[Wake1]

@Wake

Now, if you would just let the FN thing go while you answer this post:

Why do you TR skitter?

I don't. Skitter to me is Null.

But that is better than Scum, which is what I'm reading you as for refusing to help Town during MYLO.

[Wake1]

I'm pointing at BEF and Robb as the Scumteam.

[Wake1]

Garmr, Tchill, your silence is troubling.

Please, contribute your thoughts.

[Wake1]

Good. Gooood.

ALL players have had a chance to post, now.

Assuming Scum have Day Talk, they did not quickhammer on BEF for game.

SO, BEF is Scum. Scum would not wait to win the game when they could have quickhammered as I slept.

BEF must be lynched today.

[Wake1]

Wake - personally insults me
Skitter - refused to explain reads
Garmr - ignores me cause I didn’t like his push on Tchill
Tchill - accuses me of game throwing.

Go to heck all of you.

If you can't play Mafia without being a butthurt victim every single game then STOP playing Mafia.

Don't bitch to us.

[Wake1]

Tchill, please vote BEF.

[Wake1]

robb hasnt agreed to send the message to me.

I don't buy it.

All players have posted and Scum didn't quickhammer.

Ergo BEF is Scum.

[Wake1]

who are you shooting?

It's too early to say.

[Wake1]

Tchill, please vote BEF.

[Wake1]

Garmr, please vote BEF.

[Wake1]

On the bright side, if you are lynched as Town then Robb is confirmed, and I'll have good odds of shooting Scum tonight.

[Wake1]

in fact you KNOW that town!rob is on the skitter slot and your biggest TRs skitter and tchill are sitting on me? Think about that...

If you and Robb are Town, you cost us the win because of all those pages of BS and fighting. When confirmed Town asks you at MYLO to reveal extremely important information, you do it without fighting.

If Scum wins, they win because they played way better as Scum than you two did as Town.

[Wake1]

Do you have anything to say BEF now that you are lynched?

[Wake1]

Last reads, BEF?

Assuming you're Town, they'd be extremely important to me.

[Wake1]

Noted on Skitter. Thoughts on Tchill?

[Wake1]

Last reads, BEF?

Assuming you're Town, they'd be extremely important to me.

Cross my wagon with Bob's wagon. There's your answer.

Noted.

[Wake1]

like how do i make it to where you all can see the dead thread mod and scum pt

Scroll to bottom of each PT and add all the players names in, then post the links to the game thread.

[Wake1]

@wake you don’t get to bully people and get away with it. I don’t believe in mass claiming or claiming unnecessarily. Don’t bully or insult people anymore. You shooting me last night is potentially game throwing as I was cleared as town. Knowingly shooting a town player is game throwing.

Take a Xanax you spaz and stop being so uptight in Mafia games.

[Wake1]

You did cross a line so please stay away from me.

its my pleasure robb. tired of sticking my neck out for you. good luck in all future endeavors.

Keep your alts out of my games.

I second this.

Every game has to be rife with his tantrums.

[Wake1]

It was ballsy to gamble on me shooting Menalque or Garmr.

For a second I considered shooting Garmr.

In hindsight, I really should have pressed Garmr more when I was still alive. Tchill and Skitter were certainly active and contributing. In future games I need to pressure lurkers in mid-to-late games.