BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[Doctor Drew]

soooo many hydras.

Great point, the lynch pool should only include the hydras.

VOTE: Haggle

Hectic only town reads me when I am scum, and scum reads me when I am town. Let's save him from the wifom nightmare.

Pre Edit: That's the spirit Aaron

[Doctor Drew]

we will give you better treatment.

Could you be more specific, mate?

I'll nominate you for a Golden Boonie. Or something. Maybe you can live to D2 to help me lynch more of your partners? I'm open to offers.

Romeo and Juliet seem to be down to negotiate. Comeon scum you want to be left holding the bag when they flip on you?

BP

I demand Hectic to post before I release hellfire on your hydra.

[Doctor Drew]

Nancy, the voices in my head are all I can handle.

Titus, howdy.......but I thought you didn't do D1?

[Doctor Drew]

Nancy, the voices in my head are all I can handle.

Titus, howdy.......but I thought you didn't do D1?

Fuck, why do I have to click the box every time for my sig to appear?

[Doctor Drew]

Almost all my posting is on mobile, must be the browser.

Ah well.....I will survive.

[Doctor Drew]

Nancy, the voices in my head are all I can handle.

Titus, howdy.......but I thought you didn't do D1?

I read Titus exclusively based on day 1.

@Drew, why do you think Titus doesn’t do D1?

She knows.....and it involves an ongoing game so I will not elaborate.

[Doctor Drew]

Great point, the lynch pool should only include the hydras.

Note to self: If Drew is "Yadda yadda yadda Lord of the Boonski’i; then no hydra is on their side"

-Monkey

No no, I am never on the hydras side.

*Offers handshake to A50 while staring into his eyes with intent*

[Doctor Drew]

All the world's a stage,

And all the men and women merely players:

They have their exits and their entrances;

And one man in his time plays many parts

Your role is AATA?? No.. that can't be. ESSS, maybe?

~The dumbest of the flock

Can you stop this nonsense posting? We have 20 something players and multiple hydras. This type of posting helps no one.

I know I am borderline shitposting.....but +1 to this.

[Doctor Drew]

Almost, all my posting is on mobile, must be the browser.

I didn't ask, but thanks for the info nevertheless.

~You know who

Haha.

I just knew you were in the game without even knowing.

[Doctor Drew]

Yeah monkey man this is the most I've seen you spam post, not counting you replacing into a game, catching up or something important.

I am seen him go meth crazy from the start tbf.

[Doctor Drew]

I have no idea. I don't actually check the Boon Bank of roles. I just get the role however he calls it and interpret it to the standard wiki name.

P-edit: That

must

have been Shiro. I won't believe Nancy didn't know JJD & AP were my alts.

No, I didn’t know that and I don’t even know why you would think I would? I’ve never heard of JJD and I thought AP was a main, because I’ve heard that name referenced a lot. All V & M posts thus far have been from me. I mistakenly told Shiro that the game hadn’t started yet and when I realized it had, he had already logged out.

And you couldn't recall my stance of hating D1?

I take back anything I said about you that was in any negative light. I understand you now.

Maybe this is a large game problem, but fuck D1.

I do like A50 though, but this is much

[Doctor Drew]

A50 is a lot less aggressive than he was in Surprise, when he practically flipped out on me for tr Creature, so I think that’s probably a good sign.

Chenn?

[Doctor Drew]

Ok seems like the noise died down, but I am only reading going forward.

Someone be a sport and tell me who I should focus on?

And before you say Titus, gonna lock town her until further notice.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok seems like the noise died down, but I am only reading going forward.

The noise has not died down

I see now, catch you guys by page 50 maybe?

Actually no, I will choose a hydra to vote and just lock it there.

Basically whoever is most making noise and making the game hard to play.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok seems like the noise died down, but I am only reading going forward.

The noise has not died down

I see now, catch you guys by page 50 maybe?

Actually no, I will choose a hydra to vote and just lock it there.

Basically whoever is most making noise and making the game hard to play.

Why don’t you just vote a slot you think is actually scummy, not how many players are in it?

Hydras seem to be making the most noise, that shit is scummy, ergo....

[Doctor Drew]

Also Nancy, why worried about it?

[Doctor Drew]

Actually no, that was probably shiro.

Nancy would play along more.

[Doctor Drew]

we will give you better treatment.

Could you be more specific, mate?

I'll nominate you for a Golden Boonie. Or something. Maybe you can live to D2 to help me lynch more of your partners? I'm open to offers.

Romeo and Juliet seem to be down to negotiate. Comeon scum you want to be left holding the bag when they flip on you?

BP

I demand Hectic to post before I release hellfire on your hydra.

Yes, I need to see Hectic post, I don’t think I know how to sort Billy.

Ok, you guys get positive hydra points.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew pls actually not vanity vote the entire game

I know how you feel about hydrae, I just... dont care

Chennis

This game has made my eyes glaze over so far.

Let me do what I need to do to get into the game.

Trust me, my next vote will be serious.

Assuming the very next post is Chenn, why are you giving me shit for possibly vanity posting when you admit you joined the game to troll?

[Doctor Drew]

Drew pls actually not vanity vote the entire game

I know how you feel about hydrae, I just... dont care

Chennis

This game has made my eyes glaze over so far.

Let me do what I need to do to get into the game.

Trust me, my next vote will be serious.

Assuming the very next post is Chenn, why are you giving me shit for possibly vanity posting when you admit you joined the game to troll?

I was talking about Reverse jester nightless.

Lol Chenn with another main account slip.

Only game I played with him in a hydra he did this a bunch and was scum......is this any sort of AI or just Chenn being a big dummy?

[Doctor Drew]

Hydras seem to be making the most noise, that shit is scummy, ergo....

Can you be a bit more specific on what you think is noise?

Meme posting, false role claims, thinking they are being funny, posting just to here themselves talk.

There could be general useful stuff in there......but it is surrounded with shit posting that doesn't help anyone and makes me want to double down on power lynching the hydras.

Pre Edit: To be clear, because Nancy main slipping reminded me, I enjoy playing with most members of each hydra here.....I don't know what happens to them when they become a hydra though.

Also, is A50 in a hydra or just being A50?

[Doctor Drew]

New page

We can start a new life together here.

[Doctor Drew]

New page

We can start a new life together here.

They'll never understand our love

Man, we totally should have been in a hydra.

[Doctor Drew]

A50, gun to your head......Chenn or Nancy?

[Doctor Drew]

A50, gun to your head......Chenn or Nancy?

They're both cool and both Town. Are you not??

Just answer the question.

[Doctor Drew]

Nancy is evil more likely, in my not so humble and clearly right opinion.

Thanks for the input....but I am asking A50.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm gonna assume that all the nonsense A50 posted from pg 4 onwards is NAI and not look into it any further

Your loss (and all the more reason for me to support a lynch on you)

Also, Dr Drew doesn't seem to have Town's best interest in his view. He's just complaining about the noise and pushing for the lynch of townie slots. As I said before, if he is scum no hydra is on his team. Anyone want to test that theory yet?

P-edit: I already did

Lynch a hydra? Let's do it!

[Doctor Drew]

Also......you seem to be protective of the hydras.

What if I am town?

[Doctor Drew]

And A50, you think you know me......but you don't.

[Doctor Drew]

I mean, you know me from previous games.....but fuck you.....you know what I mean lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Also, I started the game in a neighborhood with Joan of Arc but she hasn't posted shit beyond a polite 'hi' in the hood.

I really wish she would communicate better with me.

[Doctor Drew]

Lynch a hydra? Let's do it!

Wrong conclusion, matey. We lynch the ONE slot that can potentially clear 4-5 slots. We don't lynch 5 slots to verify one slot's alignment.

And besides, you being adamant to lynch a hydra is a meme in itself, and I think you're using it as an excuse to not scum hunt AND to get a free mislynch that wouldn't be blamed at you.

Then you don't really understand what I am doing.

Explain the ONE slot for 4 or 5 slots thing please.

Pre Edit: Yes she is lurky I get it

[Doctor Drew]

Over 20% of all posts in this game are from A50.

Save me.

Also to clarify on this comment.

This was more of a 'this game's gonna be hard to read, especially on D1 when people are shitposting' rather than an indication of what I believe A50's alignment to be (which is still null for me btw).

This was my greater point.

Excessive shit posting makes it harder to get a grasp for people who check in from time to time.....like myself.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm gonna assume that all the nonsense A50 posted from pg 4 onwards is NAI and not look into it any further

Your loss (and all the more reason for me to support a lynch on you)

Also, Dr Drew doesn't seem to have Town's best interest in his view. He's just complaining about the noise and pushing for the lynch of townie slots. As I said before, if he is scum no hydra is on his team. Anyone want to test that theory yet?

P-edit: I already did

Clearly. I know he’s not a big hydra fan but wanting to only lynch hydras is ludicrous. @Why is it between Chenn and me, @Drew? Don’t you have any reads on any solo slots?

Why are you so worried?

I didn't provide any context to what 'gun to the head' meant.

A50 didn't really play along unfortunately.

[Doctor Drew]

Explain the ONE slot for 4 or 5 slots thing please.

I thought it was self-explanatory. X is not scum with any of A/B/C/D/E. We lynch X and if they flip red then A/B/C/D/E are all cleared. If they flip green then nothing has changed regarding A/B/C/D/E. What we don't do is lynch A/B/C/D/E in hopes to find a red flip between them to clear X, and if none was found then we eventually lynch X after 5 fucking mislynches for no reason but to kill the game pace (which is already below standard volume for a game this size, btw).

A/B/C/D/E are the hydras (4-5 depends on whether you count my slot as a hydra), and X is obviously the slot calling for their lynch. Guess who that is.

Maybe I have had one too many.....but I have no idea what is going on here

[Doctor Drew]

I'm gonna assume that all the nonsense A50 posted from pg 4 onwards is NAI and not look into it any further

Your loss (and all the more reason for me to support a lynch on you)

Also, Dr Drew doesn't seem to have Town's best interest in his view. He's just complaining about the noise and pushing for the lynch of townie slots. As I said before, if he is scum no hydra is on his team. Anyone want to test that theory yet?

P-edit: I already did

Clearly. I know he’s not a big hydra fan but wanting to only lynch hydras is ludicrous. @Why is it between Chenn and me, @Drew? Don’t you have any reads on any solo slots?

Why are you so worried?

I didn't provide any context to what 'gun to the head' meant.

A50 didn't really play along unfortunately.

I’m not, I just don’t understand why you only want to lynch a hydra. Unless, you’re just joking?

Trust the process.

[Doctor Drew]

I murder people who use too much Math. Math hurts when applied to Algebra.

Lynch A50? I can get behind that.

Pre Edit: Angry A50 is easy to read A50 lol

[Doctor Drew]

I prefer percentages to letters.

Letters were NOT numbers, Nancy. A-E were the hydra names; as in Latias and Latios/Venus and Mars/Romeo and Juliet/Haggle/50 Judge Powers. X was Doctor Drew. We lynch HIM to verify the hydras and not vice-versa is what I'm saying.

Lol.

You are protecting at least one hydra, with this play I am assuming more than one though.

You wouldn't sacrifice your credibility in this game for just one.

Also, on a grander point, how does lynching me prove anything?

Your 'plan' has no footing.

[Doctor Drew]

And yours does?? Get out of here

You mean....the plan to get people to scum read my hydra bullshit?

Yes......that one.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: 50 Judge Powers

[Doctor Drew]

I prefer percentages to letters.

Letters were NOT numbers, Nancy. A-E were the hydra names; as in Latias and Latios/Venus and Mars/Romeo and Juliet/Haggle/50 Judge Powers. X was Doctor Drew. We lynch HIM to verify the hydras and not vice-versa is what I'm saying.

But do you think he’s actually scum though? because if he flips town, this proves nothing.

BINGO

[Doctor Drew]

Guys,

I'm hiding behind Drew tonight

. Even if he is Town it'd be in town's best interest that the Mafia shoot there tonight.

VOTE: 50 Judge Powers

See how scared he is from me targeting him at night??

Knock yourself out targeting me, unless you you want to kill me.

Besides that, I always provide a guest with a cold beer.

[Doctor Drew]

He did claim neighbor though. That may legit be the closet thing we got to a VT.

I will say, Joan and I were put in the Hood.....we don't know each other's alignment.

Neither of us were neighborizers, from what I can gather at least......we just started there.

[Doctor Drew]

Well I just tried to give you the opportunity to defend yourself there by saying your just a VT with extra steps, but continue.

Huh?

[Doctor Drew]

You said mafia should shoot him.

So? I am HIDING BEHIND HIM for starters. That means I die with him anyway, so why is he voting me if he's town?

And then you forgot the plan was for a Town Protector to protect my target tonight, so... ????

Did you claim hider?

[Doctor Drew]

Did you claim hider?

And THAT is how much he has been reading, and he is calling me a shit poster.

I literally said my eyes have glazed over from the shitposting.

I asked a simple question and this is your response.

And this is after you lol posting for most of the game.

Pre Edit: OH FUCKING EXCUSE ME FOR PLAYING THE GAME.

And not believing what you posted.

Hydras, we did it......I used you to find scum.

I am not moving from my vote.

[Doctor Drew]

Which means if he is town he lives and I live and I can confirm his alignment. So what's your point/question?

But you want scum to target me?

That's the issue.

[Doctor Drew]

But you want scum to target me?

Again, you ahve not been reading and you should not be playing this game with this attitude. You're not just skimming MY posts, you're skimming the whole thread.

You see, there was this plan that I should announce my target and the Doctor should protect them. So if my target is Town neither of us dies. If they're scum I die and that would be a guilty on them. And I only die to SCUM and not to 3P (if any). So unless you want to claim Miller I don't see your problem here.

Why are you assuming that I haven't been following the whole game?

[Doctor Drew]

Sup dudes

VOTE: Haggle

soooo many hydras.

Great point, the lynch pool should only include the hydras.

VOTE: Haggle

Hectic only town reads me when I am scum, and scum reads me when I am town. Let's save him from the wifom nightmare.

Pre Edit: That's the spirit Aaron

Didn't realise this game had started so I've arrived a little late to the party, friends.
Drew and Aaron are both locktown based on this. Aaron should know that I never try and buddy him when I'm scum, so this should now make me locktown for him.

@mod:

As we are now mechanically town to each other, could a mason thread be created for us?

Meanwhile, Drew is scum since I'm townreading him.

Finger of Suspicion:

Drew

since I don't spot any votecounts.

-Hectic

How do you have an FOS on a slot you just called “locktown”? And I definitely don’t consider either one of them to be locktown at this point. The only thing AF has done other than fluff posting, is to doubt Chk miller claim, a claim that no one else seems to be questioning and not talk about anyone other than A50.

Look at my sig in regards to Hectics read on me.

[Doctor Drew]

@Drew/Joan, When did you both get placed into this hood? I find this incredibly odd and suspicious.

Started the game there.....it was part of my role.

[Doctor Drew]

UNVOTE:

Don't even remember why I was voting them tbh.

Also, I think it was Romeo and Juliet. If you honestly think I would seriously only lynch hydras then you seriously don't understand my meta.

Also, people really need to read my sig in regards to Hectics.

[Doctor Drew]

Also, Joan has said about as much in our hood as in here.

[Doctor Drew]

It us also the main difference between how I function and how the L&L hydra function (regardless of the name of the role). They die to 3P and I don't.

Right, because they’re disloyal and you’re desperate. That makes me think there actually might be a 3P in this setup then, because then they probably would have gotten desperate weak hider over disloyal weak hider.

Emperor flippyNips is VLA. He’s part of the majority of my busy weekend.

The Baker, backup mod, is also VLA.

What a rough time. Starting the 1st, I’ll be more active here. There WILL be a vote count likely tomorrow morning.

The Baker and I are actually meeting up with Krazy later tonight! I might be home early enough to get a vote count late tonight, but if I’m buzzed from going out with Krazy, it’ll be tomorrow.

Do me a favor? Ask Baker if he had a True KVLT Christmas.

Anywho, Hectic only if Creature was in this game and demanding to know all roles.

I am curious for Amruns catch up. After playing with her in a recent game I am prepared, in addition to sheep Titus, I will also sheep Amrun.

Maybe sheep hectic, as long as he still scum reads me. I know he is town that way.

[Doctor Drew]

Oops, didn't mean to quite 850.

[Doctor Drew]

*quote.....cheese and rice my brain is fried.

[Doctor Drew]

dd, who would you consider lynching/not lynching today?

-latias

Can't you a solid answer on who to lynch at this moment tbh.

I think I made it clear who I don't want to lynch though.

I will, and I promise, grill Joan/replacement for Joan in the hood though..... and probably here as well.

I will say, something that I can't put a finger on irks me about Nancy(totally not because of the hydra thing I swear).

[Doctor Drew]

*can't give you

[Doctor Drew]

I would lynch A50, don't get me wrong.

And not wanting to Lynch Titus or Amrun is based off previous games, not saying I wouldn't going forward as things get sorted, but D1...nope

And the Nancy thing......Nancy, weren't you scum in one of the games we were both in?

[Doctor Drew]

Well I just tried to give you the opportunity to defend yourself there by saying your just a VT with extra steps, but continue.

Huh?

ISOed myself, I got too fired up about A50 lol. This is what happens when I have to get myself invested... .I dive in the deep end!

But Bambi, you never offered an explanation here.

Pre Edit: that's what I thought

[Doctor Drew]

dd, who would you consider lynching/not lynching today?

-latias

Can't you a solid answer on who to lynch at this moment tbh.

I think I made it clear who I don't want to lynch though.

I will, and I promise, grill Joan/replacement for Joan in the hood though..... and probably here as well.

I will say, something that I can't put a finger on irks me about Nancy(totally not because of the hydra thing I swear).

If Joan flakes it's safe to put a bullet there.

Just finished a game where she flaked, and ironically was town neighborizer (our very own Gamma Emerald took her place).

Does she does this as scum as well?

[Doctor Drew]

Also, wasn't sure if I said as much. But all she has said in the hood is a very polite 'hi'.

And then a few posts of me apparently talking to myself.

[Doctor Drew]

I don't like one who gives up. Just don't give up again and we're golden.

Can you do me a favor Bambi?

[Doctor Drew]

Well I just tried to give you the opportunity to defend yourself there by saying your just a VT with extra steps, but continue.

Huh?

You never clarified this for me.

[Doctor Drew]

Aight. I accept that.

Mars, you don't think Joan/Drew can both be scum, right? Or are you angling that the neighborhood thing is some weird ass gambit?

Sorry, who is Mars?

I would think if we were both scum it could only be a gambit, I don't think putting two scum in a hood would make sense. This isn't a bastard game right? Assuming of course you think I am telling the truth(and I was looking at it from an outsiders perspective here).

The Neighbor thing was one part of my role(my other part has nothing to do with the hood), as I imagine one part of Jane's role as well. And was specified that we don't know each other's alignment.

I would believe this all to be random......so odds are it is TvT. But with Joan.....no way to know!

Pre Edit: Nancy, no it isn't, from Taming of The Shrew.

[Doctor Drew]

People listen, Haggle may be scum.

But Hectics read on me is, from what I can tell, is that whatever his read on me I always am the opposite alingnment.

Again, peep the sig.

[Doctor Drew]

Aight. I accept that.

Mars, you don't think Joan/Drew can both be scum, right? Or are you angling that the neighborhood thing is some weird ass gambit?

Sorry, who is Mars?

I would think if we were both scum it could only be a gambit, I don't think putting two scum in a hood would make sense. This isn't a bastard game right? Assuming of course you think I am telling the truth(and I was looking at it from an outsiders perspective here).

The Neighbor thing was one part of my role(my other part has nothing to do with the hood), as I imagine one part of Jane's role as well. And was specified that we don't know each other's alignment.

I would believe this all to be random......so odds are it is TvT. But with Joan.....no way to know!

Pre Edit: Nancy, no it isn't, from Taming of The Shrew.

It would be interesting if one of you were Kate and the other one, Petruccio.

Well I can confirm one part of that.

[Doctor Drew]

Also, Hectic at least, has always been a bit weird in the games I have played with him.

[Doctor Drew]

Also I’m with the Baker and FlippyNips, but yeah, Nancy is bae._

Talk some metal with Baker please.

Baker said “Doctor Drew’s my boy”

[Doctor Drew]

Aight. I accept that.

Mars, you don't think Joan/Drew can both be scum, right? Or are you angling that the neighborhood thing is some weird ass gambit?

I think it’s unlikely unless their hood was completely randomized. No, I totally believe Drew’s claim but we need more info from Joan slot.

@Drew, out of curiosity, is your flavour a Macbeth character? Just because of Joan’s opening quote.

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Haggle, I am not defending hectic per se, just pointing out that in previous games his read on me was always the opposite of what I was, I took it as a wink wink to these previous games and to my sig. It is NAI and people are calling it scummy.

And my hydra thing is just what you said, a bit of a meme and a bit of a joke. If I was scum, and I was scum with a hydra, I would totally be making the same jokes. Especially in a game with, most likely 4 scum, I wouldn't be overly worried about accidentally causing a lynch of scum hydra teammate.

Lynching a hydra does nothing to clear or implicate me and vice versa. I didn't understand why people would think there is any meat on that bone.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Wtf.....I didn't have anything quoted.

[Doctor Drew]

Remind me to never play in a game with this many hydras ever, ever again.

So far... Bambi is the towniest townie who ever towned.

To borrow from Hectic.

+++1 to your first part.

----1 you your second part.

[Doctor Drew]

On that note no more postshits from me.

See you next year!

So in 2021?

[Doctor Drew]

You got something to say to me Drew?

Bro, you wanna take this outside?

You have posted somewhat, but really haven't done anything.

Amrun giving you a town read upsets me, because I really want to town read Amrun.

[Doctor Drew]

Well clearly I've done enough to be considered more townie then you.

Lol.

VOTE: Bambi Jay

So you are just worried about appearing townie?

[Doctor Drew]

And so Day 1 happens.

Many of us have been here before.

[Doctor Drew]

Bambi, care to explain?

Post Edit: In regards to how you are helping town.

[Doctor Drew]

Jesus......it's like no one here has played a game with me before.

I will give Titus a break, she tends to figure things out after awhile(spoiler Titus....not SvS)

But Hectic is the only one who gets me......I don't get lynched D1 as scum......only as town.

[Doctor Drew]

And why is Bambi lock town?

[Doctor Drew]

I'm gonna assume that all the nonsense A50 posted from pg 4 onwards is NAI and not look into it any further

Your loss (and all the more reason for me to support a lynch on you)

Also, Dr Drew doesn't seem to have Town's best interest in his view. He's just complaining about the noise and pushing for the lynch of townie slots. As I said before, if he is scum no hydra is on his team. Anyone want to test that theory yet?

P-edit: I already did

Also this.

The hydra shit is jokes, as I have stated before. There is no connection to me to hydras in any way you look at it. Any attempt that you are making a connection is bullshit, and potentially scummy.

I have learned that D1 in a large game is noise, I have also been lacking in free time to dedicate to game so I am going to do things how I feel is necessary to get into the game. Just because some people call a slot townie.....doesn't mean they are town.

Day one goes......scum goes for fodder.

Pre Edit: Nancy, what do you mean? You hate my methods maybe.....but what I am doing to disrupt the game?

[Doctor Drew]

In Surprise, you were clearly trying to advance the game, I’m not seeing that here and your reads in that game and your reasoning for making them, actually made sense.

D1 in a large game, how can you be sure that my reads make sense or not unless you have insider knowledge.

D1 in a large game where my 'lol fuck hydras' thing has been used as a scum tell.

D1 in a large game where posting like Shakespeare and naked voting a convenient slot doesn't get mentioned as noise.

That was also my second, maybe third, game back from a long hiatus. We haven't played together since then Nancy......and you don't know my scum game.

[Doctor Drew]

D1 in a large game, how can you be sure that my reads make sense or not unless you have insider knowledge.

D1 in a large game where my 'lol fuck hydras' thing has been used as a scum tell.

On D1, there's a lot of group think. People evaluate reads making sense if they agree.

People reveal agendas with time.

You are making my point.

I am useless early game, but figure things out as days go on with flips and night kills and such.

I have an issue with people who have issues with me voting people they think are 'town' .

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Amrun

Join me Drew.

Dammit.......ok.

VOTE: Amrun

[Doctor Drew]

1237... first and third paragraphs are shade/deflection/flailing. Fourth is wifom.

More Double D votes plz.

You do know my scum game, and my town game.

Maybe explain your opportunistic naked vote instead of just sheeping the easy wagon.

[Doctor Drew]

Of ElmoTehAzn, yes, but I can’t remember his play from back then as being any different. I guess I could read Elmo scum games but I don’t value secondhand meta so I probably won’t.

What?

My old account was FuDuzn, I told you that in our hood last game lol.

So this new account isn't an alt per se.

[Doctor Drew]

The more it goes on the less I like the Joan wagon.

I know I used a similar reason in defense of myself, but she just seems like the easy lynch, that if turns out to be a mislynch, is easy for scum to just say 'hey, she didn't do anything pro town'.

FWIW, in our hood I have been encouraging her to actually contribute more if she is town.

[Doctor Drew]

The more it goes on the less I like the Joan wagon.

I know I used a similar reason in defense of myself, but she just seems like the easy lynch, that if turns out to be a mislynch, is easy for scum to just say 'hey, she didn't do anything pro town'.

FWIW, in our hood I have been encouraging her to actually contribute more if she is town.

Post Edit: Similar defense meaning the easy mislynch.

[Doctor Drew]

Out of curiosity Drew, are you actually reading the game? First. you apparently didn’t know about A50’s claims, now you are completely ignoring the reasons for the wagon. If you disagree with them, then fell free to debunk them but I’m not moving my vote unless it gets debunked, either by Joan or someone else.

I read the reasons for the wagon, I think it is a big stretch.....why would scum so blatantly do something like that? Especially if it is known that they have done it before! And what does it take to debunk it? She says it was a joke, has barely posted which allowed lots of tinfoily conspiracy theories to run amuck.

Don't get me wrong, I am more wrong than right on D1, which I why I am encouraging her to actually contribute so that A) if she is a town mislynch she can at least provide info and connections that we use going forward B) she can explain things better to see make her alingnment more clear. But I can't get behind the reasonings behind her wagon as of this moment.

I will have to go back to my interactions with A50, but if I remember correctly it wasnt about his 'claim'. Lots of alcohol fueled nights as of late lol....will report back.

(Insert joke about this all being a Hydra conspiracy here)

Post Edit: I rejected the RC wagon?

Why not be cute and just say what you want to say Nancy.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol Hydra PT......will never be in one of those.

Tbh, I glossed over the case on RC, I remember there being votes on him but it was during a period where the game was getting ahead of me and I was busy irl. Even know I couldn't comment either way on it.

And no, she has basically posted nothing of substance in our hood. Everything I am saying is based off the case layed out on her, which as I said, is a stretch.

And chk, what do you mean? Every flip of every alignment has some connections that can be made.

I will say that her not posting more here isn't pro town......this is why I want more action from her so her alignment can be more easily sussed out.

[Doctor Drew]

Yes Nancy, Gamma town slipped in that hood......I was unfortunately too late in defending him in game though. And I wasnt against his lynch up until that point. Ironically, you sound like ethos in that game making false equivalencies.

And me saying 'stop being cute and say what you want to say' wasn't me asking for you to restate the case in Joan.

Pre Edit: Don't tempt me......I cannot go to the dark side!

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, you've been drinking Nancy?

And you aren't hearing me, forget the hood, this is about the case layed out on her. I seriously doubt scum would be so dumb/brazen to make a post like that in a game involving people with first hand knowledge of doing something similar.

Pre Edit: I asked her why she is ok with being lynched and she said that she is just used to it.

[Doctor Drew]

Also, how many alts does she have?

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, you've been drinking Nancy?

And you aren't hearing me, forget the hood, this is about the case layed out on her. I seriously doubt scum would be so dumb/brazen to make a post like that in a game involving people with first hand knowledge of doing something similar.

Pre Edit: I asked her why she is ok with being lynched and she said that she is just used to it.

No Drew, have you? Saying she’s used to it, is probably a lot less than Gamma did in Penguin. With due respect Drew, that game was like over a year ago. And what specifically are you taking issue with wrt to the case on her? You just keep debunking it in general but never give any specifics, which you’d need to, if you actually want to convince anyone of anything.

What the fuck are you talking about? The penguin game ended less then a month ago.

And how many times do I need to say that it has nothing to do with our hood.....it is all about the case made in game.

And I don't need 'specifics', I already explained why I don't buy the case on her. Put in your reading comprehension glasses and read my posts again......or ignore it like you have been doing.

And I am not trying to convince people of anything, this is my own opinion until I think there is someone who is prob scum(I know my vote is on Amrun.....not sure on her but I doubt a flash wagon will form anytime soon).

Nancy, remember when I said I didn't like you but couldn't put my finger on it.......well my finger is getting close to.........it.

[Doctor Drew]

Head the words of Jericho Nancy.

[Doctor Drew]

Oh ok....thought you were talking about the penguin game.

And I didn't like Amrun's read on Bambi......and I said I would sheep Titus.

I did also say I would sheep Amrun, but imo Titus hasn't done anything scummy and will sheep her until A) she does something scummy B) someone else prob scums.

D1 is always tough for me reads wise, so I decided to have a back up plan this time and follow who I consider the strong players until I have a reason not to.

And Joan doesn't seem scummy enough to back off this play yet.

[Doctor Drew]

And I didn't like Amrun's read on Bambi......and I said I would sheep Titus.

I did also say I would sheep Amrun, but imo Titus hasn't done anything scummy and will sheep her until A) she does something scummy B) someone else prob scums.

Has Amrun done anything scummy then or do you just disagree with her read on Bambi?

Thoroughly disagree plus I am sheeping Titus.....and there is no love for Bambi lynch.

And yes, I wold enjoy Titus' opinion on the Joan wagon.

As a side note, everyone was so focused on my obsession with hydras......but now I am all about the ladies. Watch out dudes, coming for you tomorrow.

[Doctor Drew]

Since it appears to be in vogue to link to previous games, there has been one thing that I was thinking of that is starting to bother me about Titus. I may have to stop sheeping her.

Can't wait until we get the replacement for Titus.

Yeah, because it's not going to happen.

Why are you obsessed with me? Don't you know I detest day 1?

This quote is from a game that just ended.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81181 -Big Four Mafia, Titus was town I was third party.

She replaced in on D1 and basically just coasted and did nothing that Day. I kept giving her shit about this which led to the above quote.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80867 - Metaloclypse Mafia

This game was just before the Big Four Mafia and Titus was much more engaged in D1, very similar to this game......and she was scum(and for reference I was also third party lol).

Those were the only two previous games I have played with her but her D1 play was way different when she was town vs scum.

Anyone else with more experience her care to comment?

[Doctor Drew]

I am not saying 'lets all lynch Titus'. Just something that seemed odd after she acted as town D1 in Big For mafia vs another game where she was scum.

Titus, is your thinking Haggle and I may be a scum team independent of your reads on us or do you think we are connected in some way?

[Doctor Drew]

This is the time of the day I generally start to do most of my posting, this has nothing to do with Haggle.

Why does everyone only need to talk about one particular avenue to explore?

The only connection to me and Haggle is Hectics joke referencing his inability to read my alingnment, which I also reference in my sig. Which I kept pointing out was NAI when people were using it as a scum tell(as a side note, annoying that on mobile I have to click the sig button Everytime).

I have not liked BP's recent posts, and as someone said earlier, looks a bit like flailing and woah is me.

[Doctor Drew]

This is the time of the day I generally start to do most of my posting, this has nothing to do with Haggle.

Why does everyone only need to talk about one particular avenue to explore?

The only connection to me and Haggle is Hectics joke referencing his inability to read my alingnment, which I also reference in my sig. Which I kept pointing out was NAI when people were using it as a scum tell(as a side note, annoying that on mobile I have to click the sig button Everytime).

I have not liked BP's recent posts, and as someone said earlier, looks a bit like flailing and woah is me.

I think that was me and I’m not quite sure how to interpret this. Are you trying to pocket me now, @Drew?

~Nancy

What?

I didn't even know who said it earlier.......just know unread it while skimming through posts I missed.

And the Titus thing was based off D1 activity and engagement. I included both games as reference, but I wasn't saying she is PLAYING different then her town game but the ACTIVITY is much different on D1.

And I read that quote I posted from Big Four as 'i put minimal effort D1 because I detest it's. And the fact she was different alignments in these two games made me say 'hmmmm'.

Which I why I brought it up so people with more experience with her could compare and contrast.

Nancy, you really have been jumping to conclusions quickly here.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Unread = I read

[Doctor Drew]

I thought I made it clear.

Nowish is when I generally start to post for the day and it was earlier today while skimming posts (not just today's posts) that Titus has been more active then she was in our previous game when she was town. So I looked at the previous game before that where she was scum, and as I already said, made me say hmm.

This is why I posted it, nothing to do with protecting Haggle. Why should I withold my thoughts because of other wagons that are happening?

Nancy, I will say again(and maybe it was both heads tbh)....you are making conclusions that aren't there.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: I noticed that Titus.

Man, I need to learn to edit posts better haha.

[Doctor Drew]

I thought I made it clear.

Nowish is when I generally start to post for the day and it was earlier today while skimming posts (not just today's posts) that Titus has been more active then she was in our previous game when she was town. So I looked at the previous game before that where she was scum, and as I already said, made me say hmm.

This is why I posted it, nothing to do with protecting Haggle. Why should I withold my thoughts because of other wagons that are happening?

Nancy, I will say again(and maybe it was both heads tbh)....you are making conclusions that aren't there.

Well in MfD where I hydra’d with her as scum, she was very inactive.

Yeah, large normal 223 she was pretty standoffish if I recall correctly and she was scum.

BP

Thank you, this is all I was looking for.

I can continue to sheep Titus now.

Pre Edit: Ya I didn't really want to into the weeds with irl stuff....but I get your point.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Haggle

This is mostly based off BP, I don't think he handled the bullshit scum read people had on Hectic(bullshit scum reads don't mean they aren't scum though, sometimes town stumbles into a correct read).

Also based off sheeping Titus. And appears Amrun and Titus are on the same page? This could be best case scenario.

Pre Edit: I am less confident in Joan as town, at the very least that post you quoted was super lazy and shows a lack of awareness to the game(pot calling kettle black I know lol).

[Doctor Drew]

Titus, I explained why I brought it when I did. There wasn't a grander reasoning behind it.

But, since you haven't answered. Are you independently scum reading Haggle and I, or is part of your read based on a connection you think we have?

[Doctor Drew]

Creature? Oh boy.

Welcome!

[Doctor Drew]

Town is starting to suck a lot lately

Sucky town got me a survivor victory.

Reminder, you were part of said sucky town.

Welcome to the game!

[Doctor Drew]

First catching Joan and now catching Creature?

Nancy is unstoppable.

I don’t know that either of them are scum but Creature spamming just to inflate his post count may be scum indicative.

It's NAI, I will say that Creature is not hard to read if you look past the spam.

[Doctor Drew]

Claims (for people who haven't read the game):

Mechtown:
chkflip - miller
50 Judge Power - 1-shot Recharged Desperate Weak Non-Consecutive Visitor*
Latias and Latios - odd night weak hider*
Other claims:
Joan de Arc + Dr Drew - someone put the to a neighborhood.
Joan de Arc - conditional doctor

*Weaks die if they visit someone who returns guilty to cop - GF is immune to this and likely to exist.

To clarify a bit, neighbor is part of my role, so the someone who put us in a hood is almost guaranteed to be the mod.

My role PM said you are the [REDACTED] Neighbor.

[Doctor Drew]

Why is V and M so angry about the Haggle wagon and specifically Titus voting them?

Aaron, that's why I hate anonymous hydras especially. I joke about hating then, but in actuality if I am familiar with at least one head then I am fine with it.

Pre Edit: A50 ...Creature replaced loserdude.

[Doctor Drew]

Why is V and M so angry about the Haggle wagon and specifically Titus voting them?

Aaron, that's why I hate anonymous hydras especially. I joke about hating then, but in actuality if I am familiar with at least one head then I am fine with it.

Pre Edit: A50 ...Creature replaced loserdude.

There aren’t any but what does my reasons for being mad at Titus have jack to do with hydras? You obviously have know that Shiro would never make that kind of post, plus he signs everything.

I could have been more clear, but when addressing Aaron it had nothing to do with me adressing you in the first paragraph. It was in response to his 1999.

[Doctor Drew]

I could also vote Flippy, but I feel like theres probably at least one scum on my wagon if it got up that high. So I'm gonna try and poke in different places.

BP

flips wagon got pretty high just now (7 votes I think). You think scum found an easy wagon to hop onto there?

I am not sure if you are saying what I am thinking, but I think the flippynips wagon was designed to take pressure off of Haggle. Since, as stated the case on Flippynips is pretty much his lack of activity which is of course NAI for him.

Ergo, in case I wasn't obvious enough, scum is actively pushing a counter wagon to take pressure/votes off of Haggle.

[Doctor Drew]

@Drew, who do you think are the scum taking pressure off?

I liked Creature entrance, feeling town on him. V&M I don't love and mechanically speaking I feel like is a good spot to be on, not starting but early enough to really generate things.

I need to check who has voted since the last VC, brb.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: flippynips

okay that was a short iso

the wagon feels a bit lazy but i do like it better than haggle because flips hasn’t done anything towny

VOTE: flippy

I feel like scum wouldn't naked vote, they would at least say something, which leads us to L and L.

But have they done anything scummy?

[Doctor Drew]

Oh, and Haggle voting R and J and not Flippynips is interesting. Slap a vote on the next highest wagon hoping to keep the competing wagon to flippynips to not include him(Haggle).

Now scum can spread their votes across two competing mislynches vs having to chose whether to buss or not.

I know I am making a few assumptions here, given how these wagons have formulated I feel like I am on to something here though.

[Doctor Drew]

V&M I don't love and mechanically speaking I feel like is a good spot to be on,

What?

Sorry long day at work, brain isn't in full function.

I meant their spot on the Flippynips wagon.

And Chara, did I just word things confusingly? I meant because I believe Haggle is scum and the other scum are pushing a mislynch of Flippynips, most likely VandM and/or LandL, while Haggle tries to push the next highest wagon(RandJ).

And yes, this is making the assumption that Haggle is scum(which I do believe is the best lynch).

If we do lynch Haggle and he is in fact town(or Flippynips or RandJ are scum). Then a case of nothing to see.

I guess this is a D2 discussion though.

[Doctor Drew]

It was more analyzing the Flippynips wagon and then after thinking who is most likely scum my brain sort of starting making connections.

Partially posted as a note to myself for possibly come back to at a later date.

[Doctor Drew]

*to possibly come back to

Man, time to punish my brain with some beer.

[Doctor Drew]

i can't read Creature when he approaches a game with this attitude. :<

Sorry I really need something to work with

Have you played a game that Creature replaced into?

Or one he was just a part of?

I have been annoyed by him in the past, but have learned to accept him for who he is(complement I swear Creature lol).

[Doctor Drew]

You guys really need to sign. I would rather not have a repeat of BP where Enter kept getting mad at me because I thought he was Ank.

Pot.....meet kettle?

[Doctor Drew]

You guys really need to sign. I would rather not have a repeat of BP where Enter kept getting mad at me because I thought he was Ank.

Pot.....meet kettle?

How, Shiro’s barely posted?

There has been at least one or two posts I thought I was talking to you, Nancy, but then Shiro corrected me.

You can't get mad at a Hydra for something and then do the same exact thing.

[Doctor Drew]

Oh and Drew, you have totally misinterpreted my intent re: Flips’ wagon. I just ideally want to vote for a slot I’m confidently sr. What’s wrong with that and why isolate me and Eon, when there are other votes on that wagon?

If Flips comes back here and actually starts doing something, I’ll gladly unvote him.

I have been weary if your play this game, and mechanically speaking being the second spot on the wagon seems ideal for scum to be on if a mislynch occurs. You can pass it off as a genuine scum read that you were sincere about, versus being a wagon jumper with a late vote. Last game I played, as third party, I had some town cred from a very similar D1 play.

And LandL's explanation for their vote just seemed weak, and as I said, was worded like they needed to have a reason to avoid putting down a naked vote.

[Doctor Drew]

Oh and Drew, you have totally misinterpreted my intent re: Flips’ wagon. I just ideally want to vote for a slot I’m confidently sr. What’s wrong with that and why isolate me and Eon, when there are other votes on that wagon?

If Flips comes back here and actually starts doing something, I’ll gladly unvote him.

I have been weary if your play this game, and mechanically speaking being the second spot on the wagon seems ideal for scum to be on if a mislynch occurs. You can pass it off as a genuine scum read that you were sincere about, versus being a wagon jumper with a late vote. Last game I played, as third party, I had some town cred from a very similar D1 play.

And LandL's explanation for their vote just seemed weak, and as I said, was worded like they needed to have a reason to avoid putting down a naked vote.

I really don’t think you can go by that. I’ve heard theories that it’s allegedly the 4th vote that is supposed to be suspicious but for the most part, it’s usually better to look at early vs late than specific numbers and in Correspondence, ours was the first vote on a town wagon, so that totally debunks that theory. Yes, I was scum in that.

You say to-may-to I say to-may-to.

I am just going by personal experience.

But you may be right, Haggle is the 4th vote on R and J! Weee.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, I meant the second tomato to be to-mah-to.

[Doctor Drew]

Oh and Drew, you have totally misinterpreted my intent re: Flips’ wagon. I just ideally want to vote for a slot I’m confidently sr. What’s wrong with that and why isolate me and Eon, when there are other votes on that wagon?

If Flips comes back here and actually starts doing something, I’ll gladly unvote him.

I have been weary if your play this game, and mechanically speaking being the second spot on the wagon seems ideal for scum to be on if a mislynch occurs. You can pass it off as a genuine scum read that you were sincere about, versus being a wagon jumper with a late vote. Last game I played, as third party, I had some town cred from a very similar D1 play.

And LandL's explanation for their vote just seemed weak, and as I said, was worded like they needed to have a reason to avoid putting down a naked vote.

I really don’t think you can go by that. I’ve heard theories that it’s allegedly the 4th vote that is supposed to be suspicious but for the most part, it’s usually better to look at early vs late than specific numbers and in Correspondence, ours was the first vote on a town wagon, so that totally debunks that theory. Yes, I was scum in that.

You say to-may-to I say to-may-to.

I am just going by personal experience.

But you may be right, Haggle is the 4th vote on R and J! Weee.

Convince me on Haggle scum. Like I’m not confident on either Haggle or R & J, so I would really like to hear from whoever has a strong read on either rn.

Starting from 1709 on Haggle's ISO, pretty much after Hectic was MIA for a bit, BP was really turning on the flail jets and became woah is me and why I am the lynch. Hectic kept the Hydra afloat, but his meta joke involving me coupled with Hectic leaving, and also some poor communication between them it seems...... put BP in a bad spot and then he was exposed.

That's how I see it.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew, I think that's a BP style thing and NAI. Saying I have a TR might be a stretch, but I think it's self resolving.

What is your opinion on Hectic?

[Doctor Drew]

I do however think that flavour may have played a role though, because both Drew and Joan claimed to be one of Petruccio and Kate.

I think it was explicitly stated that flavor is not indicative of alignment...

But is flavor linked at all to roles?

I am not super well versed in Shakespeare, but I imagine that flavor has something to do with roles. I know Baker likes to do the same(and he is backup mod and friends with Boon).

Also parroting everyone else in hoping everything is ok Amrun.

[Doctor Drew]

The dash means equivalent right? I might just be dumb.

=

equals equivalent, so thanks for the clarification, I was confused.

For someone who plays in hydras so often you would think you wouldn't slip as much.

This close to a PL

[Doctor Drew]

The dash means equivalent right? I might just be dumb.

=

equals equivalent, so thanks for the clarification, I was confused.

For someone who plays in hydras so often you would think you wouldn't slip as much.

This close to a PL

PL? Interestingly enough, I only seem to main slip when I’m playing with an alt, almost never the other way around but when I’m playing in a hydra, any and everything is possible.

Policy Lynch, very close you are Nancy.

[Doctor Drew]

The dash means equivalent right? I might just be dumb.

=

equals equivalent, so thanks for the clarification, I was confused.

For someone who plays in hydras so often you would think you wouldn't slip as much.

This close to a PL

PL? Interestingly enough, I only seem to main slip when I’m playing with an alt, almost never the other way around but when I’m playing in a hydra, any and everything is possible.

Policy Lynch, very close you are Nancy.

What do you mean? We’re not PLing anyone?

Jeez Nancy, lighten up a bit

[Doctor Drew]

Hahaha, oh my God.

I was talking about you for continually main slipping!

[Doctor Drew]

Oh, and Haggle voting R and J and not Flippynips is interesting. Slap a vote on the next highest wagon hoping to keep the competing wagon to flippynips to not include him(Haggle).

Now scum can spread their votes across two competing mislynches vs having to chose whether to buss or not.

I know I am making a few assumptions here, given how these wagons have formulated I feel like I am on to something here though.

Am I the only one who feels like this post is a bit tmi?

I do not tr Drew here. This is the only game I’ve played with him where he’s been weird like this. His play is usually clearly protown and him talking about who he thinks is scum on an unflipped wagon was also hella weird.

I was mostly talking about the 'two competing mislynches' part. Like he says it as if he knows they're going to be mislynches.

I think you are misinterpreting what I was saying. The timing of the Flippynips wagon, combined with Haggle voting R and J and not Flippynips, made me think that scum was protecting Haggle by pushing two other town wagons. One of which(flippy) has just been lurky and no one can really make a pro town argument for and the other (R and J) is the only other semi decently big wagon.

And as I said, this is making the assumption that Haggle is scum(and I do think Haggle is scum, hence why I am coming from it from that perspective).

And, from your perspective, if I know Flippynips and R and J would be mislynches.....wouldn't I also know that Haggle would be a mislynch?

I mean, my vote is on Haggle.

[Doctor Drew]

Welp.

VOTE: R&J

Haggle wagon still good btw

Why R and J over Haggle?

[Doctor Drew]

Important Hood update!

No more posts from Joan.

@Mod

replacement soon for Joan? I am a bit lonely......

I prodded earlier today. if she doesn’t reply within a timely manner, I’ll look for a replacement.

[Doctor Drew]

I was thinking about the comment Expresso made wrt flavour. Do other people agree that there could possibly be a connection with flavour and role?

So... someone asks this question, I answer this, you call my post useless and then you ask the question again?
Useless content:

Spoiler:

I asked mod if flavour can influence role. He responded: "as much as a Shakespeare character could possibly, sure".

-Romeo

So, I’m taking that to mean, role and flavour may be connected. So, I don’t really think it could hurt if A50, Chk, Eon mentioned their flavour, since we already know their roles. Because if all of their flavours match their roles, then there might possibly be an argument for the likelihood of Petruccio/Kate being doctor.

@Drew, which one are you, Petruccio or Kate? because it matters. Since Petruccio tames Kate, he makes way more sense as doc than Kate.

I am petruchio.

[Doctor Drew]

I dunno Nancy. Like I said, I am no Shakespeare expert, but outside of the neighbor part of my role I can't find any real connection to Petruchio flavor wise.

[Doctor Drew]

Aaron, not sure why as scum I would basically expose how I am setting up mislynches.

R and J, you don't have chkflip as a town read?

[Doctor Drew]

I was just taking a fun guess at your flavor, Mars. No need to elaborate further.

Please don't do that thing where we make posting elsewhere, but not here, somehow a scummy thing. It's absolutely aggravating and I will single-handedly shout anybody down who brings it up. That's not a scum tell and you can't make it a scum tell. So let's just not do that kthx.

Haggle is being super WIFOM right now and I don't like it.

R n J is also fucking with me. I'm a slight townlean but I'm not on the list. But I'm town because I'm pushing the game forward but only so town. It reads as awkwardly as I'm summarizing what just happened.

Meh. I'd really rather not drag this on, but if I'm the only person who thinks this phase has gone stagnant I'll stfu about it.

Tbf, I think one head has you the town lean but the other head isn't so sure.

Hydras....... amirite?

But ya, we are in shit or get off the pot territory now.

[Doctor Drew]

Jesus, this may be more scum sided then Big 4 Mafia, shame I am not survivor again lol.

Also, two outed hoods.....and a neighborizer?

What's up with that?

[Doctor Drew]

That reminds me, where's that Aaron Fucking Frost guy? It may be Burden of Proficiency, but I would've expected him to solve the game by now if he's town. Him not being the night 1 kill is suspicion on its own.

-Hectic

How so?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Bambi
Who's your top tier scum, Bambi?

-Hectic

So are you townreading everyone then, Bambi? Though I appreciate the love for your fellow neighbour and faith in humanity, I'm pretty we've got some scum in our ranks.

-Hectic

I didn't feel like answering that yet, Hec. But with some people taken out of the running so far:

Joan
Drew
Fishie
Clementine
Frosty

My people,of interest at the moment. I garuntee atleast 2 are scum.

Who is Clementine?

Took me a second as well, thought I was playing Walking Dead.

And Bambi, do you think there is a possibility that both Joan and I are scum?

[Doctor Drew]

That's why I said 2, Drew.

Frankly if you fullclaim I'll probably believe your town over the vague doctor.

Why would I full claim?

Why do you want me to full claim?

Pre Edit: How was her reaction to the super saint claim AI?

[Doctor Drew]

That's why I said 2, Drew.

Frankly if you fullclaim I'll probably believe your town over the vague doctor.

Why would I full claim?

Why do you want me to full claim?

Pre Edit: How was her reaction to the super saint claim AI?

how long did this post take you to write?

Lol, I started it.....then there is a game I play on my phone that one mode is time sensitive.....then came back to this.

I literally said thought the same thing.

[Doctor Drew]

Psuedo-Vote (ignore this, Boon): Drew

When you gonna stop rolling cult? Who's your top scum?

-Hectic

I finally didn't roll cult leader recently!

And, looking at Bambi and Joan, also need to analyze the R and J wagon as well, I do think what I was saying yesterDay may hold some weight.

And I hate saying it, and not necessarily a scum read yet, but Titus' claim is making me scratch my chin.

Oh, and still have you guys up there as well.

[Doctor Drew]

Psuedo-Vote (ignore this, Boon): Drew

When you gonna stop rolling cult? Who's your top scum?

-Hectic

I finally didn't roll cult leader recently!

And, looking at Bambi and Joan, also need to analyze the R and J wagon as well, I do think what I was saying yesterDay may hold some weight.

And I hate saying it, and not necessarily a scum read yet, but Titus' claim is making me scratch my chin.

Oh, and still have you guys up there as well.

Jesus how did I forget? Totally think V and M are scum as well. Nancy's opening post I didn't like. I still don't get why she thought she was conf town.

Lol, I promise you I am not misogynistic.......I think Amrun might be town!

[Doctor Drew]

Psuedo-Vote (ignore this, Boon): Drew

When you gonna stop rolling cult? Who's your top scum?

-Hectic

I finally didn't roll cult leader recently!

And, looking at Bambi and Joan, also need to analyze the R and J wagon as well, I do think what I was saying yesterDay may hold some weight.

And I hate saying it, and not necessarily a scum read yet, but Titus' claim is making me scratch my chin.

Oh, and still have you guys up there as well.

Wow, game must've been bugged.

Dave cleared us with a gunsnith check btw. What's wrong with Titus' claim?

-Hectic

Ah you are right, sorry.

As far as Titus' claim......I have reasons to doubt it.....don't want to play my full hand quite yet on said reasons.

[Doctor Drew]

Excellent.

Adding Clem and Bambi conditionally to my town block.

Rolecop is many times a scum PR.....don't forget that.

[Doctor Drew]

Especially in a role madness game.

[Doctor Drew]

We almost have enough information to solve, btw.

Oh, Drew.

What, you saying it isn't?

[Doctor Drew]

Is it too crazy to think about massclaiming?

It could also fuck us all to hell.

Pretty good reason why massclaim isn't a good idea atm

Creature calling for a massclaim? He never does that!

[Doctor Drew]

Psuedo-Vote (ignore this, Boon): Drew

When you gonna stop rolling cult? Who's your top scum?

-Hectic

I finally didn't roll cult leader recently!

And, looking at Bambi and Joan, also need to analyze the R and J wagon as well, I do think what I was saying yesterDay may hold some weight.

And I hate saying it, and not necessarily a scum read yet, but Titus' claim is making me scratch my chin.

Oh, and still have you guys up there as well.

Wow, game must've been bugged.

Dave cleared us with a gunsnith check btw. What's wrong with Titus' claim?

-Hectic

Ah you are right, sorry.

As far as Titus' claim......I have reasons to doubt it.....don't want to play my full hand quite yet on said reasons.

Yeah, like I’d believe you over bleeding obvtown Titus.

Oh, don't get me wrong......I don't want to scum read Titus. Problem is, the reasons that are there.

Vague, I know......but won't elaborate.

And, you voted me without an explanation on why you thought you were conf Town when the NK flip happended.

[Doctor Drew]

Hello hello hello
@Nancy: Is there something I missed? How are you an IC now?

-Hectic

I’m not, just forget I said that.

Do you just conveniently miss this post? @Drew

But why did you you think it in the first place? My role PM specifically says you don't know the other person's alignment......why does you being in a hood make you conf town?

That is my point, and that is why I have issue with you saying you were IC.

Pre Edit: Aaron, again.....reasons lead me to believe that she may be lying about her role or about her night action.

[Doctor Drew]

Hello hello hello
@Nancy: Is there something I missed? How are you an IC now?

-Hectic

I’m not, just forget I said that.

Do you just conveniently miss this post? @Drew

But why did you you think it in the first place? My role PM specifically says you don't know the other person's alignment......why does you being in a hood make you conf town?

That is my point, and that is why I have issue with you saying you were IC.

Pre Edit: Aaron, again.....reasons lead me to believe that she may be lying about her role or about her night action.

I had initially misread the flip. That’s why I said I’m not, because I was obviously mistaken.

You aren't answering the question.

Why would you think you are IC if you are in a hood?

[Doctor Drew]

Is it too crazy to think about massclaiming?

It could also fuck us all to hell.

Pretty good reason why massclaim isn't a good idea atm

Creature calling for a massclaim? He never does that!

I’ve seen him do it as town. So, let’s see, Titus, me, Creature, anyone else you’d care to shade for no good reason? Oh and of course there’s Haggle who you also tried to get us to lynch.

I tried to get you to lynch Haggle? I didn't realize I was able to influence you so much lol.

And since your sense of humor isn't working.....yes, the creature comment was a comedic throwback to a game that recently ended.

Maybe you missed when I said I was town reading Creature?

But nah, forget about that...... you have an agenda to work on!

And since when is questioning a unconformable role (Titus) shade?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Drew

You want to have it out? I'm half asleep most of the time but the truth wins out.

Lol.

Why is there another person in my hood?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Drew

You want to have it out? I'm half asleep most of the time but the truth wins out.

Lol.

Why is there another person in my hood?

What? Titus didn’t neighbourize either you or Joan and Joan never mentioned anything about there being another person in your hood.

Titus, did you put us in a neighborhood?

If you did, that's quite a coincidence, flavor-wise.

Joan and I started in a hood, was part of our role PM.

Titus claimed she was blocked from neighborizing.

There is someone else in our hood, I specifically told this person not to acknowledge it.....for reasons.

And you expect Joan to actually contribute?

Pre Edit: It puts in serious doubt, Titus' claim.......would there be two neighborizers?

[Doctor Drew]

I don't think there are two neighborizers.

If it takes me dying then so be it.

I see excuses from Nancy, at least I see reasons from Titus

I am going to vote one of Nancy, Titus, Person added to hood.

I am going to let it play out before I choose.

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: It puts in serious doubt, Titus' claim.......would there be two neighborizers?

I really don't see why not. They don't seem like the same role either. Titus starts off on her own. Why are you suspicious of the person who just joined your neighbourhood? For mechanical reasons?

-Hectic

Never said I was......and you don't have to put yourself into a hood, you can choose another player.

[Doctor Drew]

Nancy, my post about creature asking for a massclaim was a callback to a game that just ended.

He was town that game.

Stop saying me mentioning someone in a post is as simple as me 'throwing shade'.

Pre Edit: No, I never said I was neighborizer, but there is a third person in our hood now.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: No Titus, I never said you did it as well....

[Doctor Drew]

Scum are already desperate for mislynches. ~ Titus

And which player has been single-handedly pushing for them? HINT: my main and there’s share the same last name.

Everyone remember this post if Nancy gets her wish.

Who am I pushing today? I voiced concern for a few players, please tell me who I am tunneling until they die. I was wrong about Haggle, but I also was quick to defend the Hectic end when people were scum reading him because of his joke read on me. If Hectic was more active D1 I probably would not have been on them.

Like I mean, like what you are doing to me.

You harp on my every word to try to find any angle to make me look bad, and when I call you out on it you ignore it.

There is no town motivation from what you are doing.

All you are doing is plotting your demise.

That being said, I think I have come around again on Titus. Thinking mechanically there probably is a good chance there are multiple neighborizers, and I like her play so far toDay.

I also have reasons to not trust Aaron's intentions.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Aaron

Nancy, you are plotting your demise by pushing my mislynch. You are going to look terrible with all the tunneling you are doing. That's why I quoted what you said in my post.

And you did it again, combing through my post to pick out one part you can construe as scummy without explanation and hoping someone else will do your dirty work(ie asking how this possibly be a town post).

[Doctor Drew]

That was a hammer.....huh.

Honestly didn't even think we were close.

[Doctor Drew]

That was a hammer.....huh.

Honestly didn't even think we were close.

Imagine a question mark after hammer.

[Doctor Drew]

Why not claiming Aaron?

[Doctor Drew]

Listen, if you think I would be this careless as scum then you have zero idea what scum Drew is.

Let's wait for the flip.

Pre Edit: If town, hopefully it wasn't 10.

Pre Edit 2: Why are so positive I am a scum neighborizer and not Joan? Why are so sure it is either of us?

Oh Nancy, you have no idea how wrong you have been and continue to be this game.

Not any sort of neighborizer, I did jack shit last Night.

[Doctor Drew]

Noise? The noise is in a large game where there are multiple hydras whose heads can't agree with each other or don't sign when they post so no body has any ide who actually said it.

It's fucking confusing, and I have been trying to do what I can to figure things out.

I am transparent Nancy, especially as town. I am not worried about dying if it helps town.

Chk put it best, I am an awkward player. And I have been confused.

Me saying I would sheep Titus or Amrun was me trying to follow strong players, and keeping them close to try to figure out if they are scum or not......this is why I keep going back and forth on Titus.

Look up any Scum or cult game if mine, that is a much different Drew.

[Doctor Drew]

How many games where I was scum or cult?

How many were large games?

[Doctor Drew]

How many games where I was scum or cult?

How many were large games?

You were town in every single one.

My point Nancy, you have no clue about my scum game.

And Haggle, I am not a neighborizer.

[Doctor Drew]

I never defended him though.

Because I was thinking out loud?

I don't get how me and Flippy are connected in some way.

VOTE: Flippynips

[Doctor Drew]

Ok, that wasn't defense of Flippynips per se.

This was me putting the pieces together IF haggle is scum. As I said, thinking out loud. Again, I said before......why would I possibly post all of that as scum?

Again, sorry to be a broken record......but Nancy you have less then zero clue about my scum game.

Also, spoiler alert: It appears that Haggle isn't scum, and I will go back to sheeping Titus.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok, that wasn't defense of Flippynips per se.

This was me putting the pieces together IF haggle is scum. As I said, thinking out loud. Again, I said before......why would I possibly post all of that as scum?

Again, sorry to be a broken record......but Nancy you have less then zero clue about my scum game.

Also, spoiler alert: It appears that Haggle isn't scum, and I will go back to sheeping Titus.

You were calling her scum neighbourizer just last night. What happened? You’ve also pulled the same sort of thing on Amrun too.

Oh shit! You mean I can't have reads change over time!

Sorry, next time I will try the patent pending 'Nancy Drew Death Tunnel Without Listening To Reason' method.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok, that wasn't defense of Flippynips per se.

This was me putting the pieces together IF haggle is scum. As I said, thinking out loud. Again, I said before......why would I possibly post all of that as scum?

Again, sorry to be a broken record......but Nancy you have less then zero clue about my scum game.

Also, spoiler alert: It appears that Haggle isn't scum, and I will go back to sheeping Titus.

You were calling her scum neighbourizer just last night. What happened? You’ve also pulled the same sort of thing on Amrun too.

Oh shit! You mean I can't have reads change over time!

Sorry, next time I will try the patent pending 'Nancy Drew Death Tunnel Without Listening To Reason' method.

You’re seriously freaking unbelievable.

C'mon, outside of all this you gotta admit that is a funny joke.

[Doctor Drew]

I don't like this pinky in the air shit, Drew.

Do something.

When I do something it gets called noise.

What are you looking for?

[Doctor Drew]

I'm not gonna coach you, dude. Keep playing.

But if I have to read about your exquisite scum game one more time I'm going to caps lock tunnel you FATE style.

Bambi and RCE have found themselves voting next to one another four times this game. That's... peculiar, is it not?

Sorry, just trying to prove a point to Nancy......in no way do I think my scum game is fantastic, just markedly different.

Can't speak too much on RC, but Bambi seems prob scum. I don't know if I can too much into their voting patterns though.

[Doctor Drew]

Dave, unless you have an alt we haven't played together......I don't believe.

Pre Edit: What are you on about Nancy?

[Doctor Drew]

At least one of Aaron/BEF is scum.

Titus, I don't know about aaron but your wrong about me. I'll vote Aaron once i get caught up, there are about 10 pages left to read. Nut you would be wise to not tunnel on me.

No Drew, AF claimed doc enabler AFTER he thought he was hammered.

Dave, unless you have an alt we haven't played together......I don't believe.

Pre Edit: What are you on about Nancy?

[Doctor Drew]

At least one of Aaron/BEF is scum.

Titus, I don't know about aaron but your wrong about me. I'll vote Aaron once i get caught up, there are about 10 pages left to read. Nut you would be wise to not tunnel on me.

No Drew, AF claimed doc enabler AFTER he thought he was hammered.

Explain this post.

[Doctor Drew]

At least one of Aaron/BEF is scum.

Titus, I don't know about aaron but your wrong about me. I'll vote Aaron once i get caught up, there are about 10 pages left to read. Nut you would be wise to not tunnel on me.

No Drew, AF claimed doc enabler AFTER he thought he was hammered.

Explain this post.

Are YOU smoking something?

[Doctor Drew]

Nancy, seriously......are you high and/or drunk?

I mean, let's party.....but seriously?

[Doctor Drew]

50 would not be alive if Nips was scum and you can take that to the bank.

Can you explain this post? I don’t know this person so...

FlippyNips:

can espressojet read you well, historically?

This was our first game on site together and I wasn’t really around when he was & visa versa

& Idt we’ve played enough irl for me to give a solid yes or no cos Idr

Where does this question come from?

Does Expresso know Drew?

Never played with him, unless he has an alt.

[Doctor Drew]

To all of the people meta reading Drew as town, find me another game where he has played anything similar to how he has here, because I couldn’t find one in ANY alignment, so the Drew is town here by meta has no basis.

I invite you to re-read the penguin’s micro game. The level of tinfoil Drew is doing here is very similar to me with that game, where he talked himself out of neighborizing when it would have been in his favor.

Okay, just reread it and the only similarity I can see to this game, is that he shouldn’t be sr for what he thought was a quickhammer. I don’t know what “tin foil” you’re seeing? Maybe you can link/quote the specific posts? But he was super obvtown in that, just like in Penguin.

That was the same game.

Speaking of tinfoil, I am starting to believe that the whole quick hammer thing was a play by scum to 'clear' Aaron......and possibly frame me. He wasn't actually close to a hammer. This gave the opportunity for Nancy to 'power lynch' me under the guise of whoever does the quick hammer must be scum. If if my mislynch does go through, easy for scum to wash their hands if it without looking too bad.

Other possibility is that Aaron is actually town and it was a ploy to get Aaron to claim.....added benefit to frame me.

The questions I am asking myself is A) I need to double check, but I believe it was first Chkflip who said it was a hammer.......would he knowingly lie B) Was Nancy a part of this or just a chess piece C) Why was Aaron put in the hood with Joan and I D) Why did Bambi 'hammer' just to make sure.

I like how this game only starts to make sense when I am drunk heh.

[Doctor Drew]

Like look at that post he just did and tel me he didn’t come up with it with tinfoil on his fucking head. That’s town.

I know I mentioned as such, but I honestly don't think my last post was THAT tinfoily, alot of the the Aaron quickhammer situation is sketchy and deserves a closer examination.

[Doctor Drew]

Nancy, yes as I said to Hectic......I am not a neighborizer of any sort.

And when have I tried to mislynch you? I even said you could be a chess piece that scum is using to further my mislynch. And Chkflip being a part of it all is the big kink in it all......why would he knowingly lie? That part makes little to no sense.

You are also correct that if Joan was more active the Aaron situation could be more easily solved.....and with his claim and her claim this is why I am still curious why he was put in our hood.

[Doctor Drew]

Nancy, just vote Drew. I can't prove Nips scum before I die anyway.

At least put the game where you can solve ir.

Now you want me to vote him?

Why would your death prove him scum?

Also, weren't you pretty sure you wouldn't die tonight?

[Doctor Drew]

What's the VC at?

[Doctor Drew]

Haggle brings up a point I haven't really thought about as well.

I was the sixth vote on Aaron, it was then after that that, I believe it was chkflip said it was a hammer, and everyone was like 'wtf'. Then once it was determined it wasn't even close to a hammer, I come out of it looking scummy?

How?

It wasn't like someone said Aaron was at L-1 before I voted. If anyone looks bad it is Bambi, when people still thought it maybe was the hammer she doubled down and voted Aaron just to be sure!

Basically someone explain how exactly I am the one who comes off looking scummy.

[Doctor Drew]

Uhhh, why aren't we lynching Bambi?

-Hectic

Does definitely seem more obvious than Flippynips.

VOTE: Bambi

[Doctor Drew]

Chk, sorry I am not sure why I kept thinking it was you.

And I stated really early I was probably sheeping Titus, and I somewhat have.

As for the other votes, I dunno, probably because I thought they were scummy at the time.....isn't voting your scum reads what you are supposed to do? (Also still think Aaron is scummy). I don't do anything for town cred, and if I was I was doing a pretty shitty job of it......this is a big part of the reason I am being mis read as scum.

Should I not vote anyone? Is there is a magical person I can vote that makes you realize I am not scum? I can't fucking take a sip of water without someone screaming 'Look at how he drinks water, just like scum would do!'

And you didn't answer my question, what about the whole Aaron quick hammer makes me look scummy.....or at least scummier than Bambi.

[Doctor Drew]

He’s willing to vote whomever his tr want, so don’t really see any agenda there. Joan’s votes are a helluva a lot more suspicious imo.

What do you find suspicious about her votes?

Because she isn’t reading. My point was more I don’t find BEF’s posts scummy and Joan’s are worse. I can also possibly buy her as a bored town lurker as well.

Like, I still think Drew’s scum here and I honestly don’t know what Amrun’s smoking.

Do you think there's a chance Drew and Joan might be scum together? It seems really unlikely tbh

Joan is most likely getting replaced anyways

I will give you a spoiler, we can't be scum together.

Also, she tends to show up just before replacement.

[Doctor Drew]

That's... pretty bad actually. Why didn't you tell me you rolled scum earlier, Drew? Wanna try explaining your thought process through those votes?

-Hectic

This post read like Drew didn't really mind the fact that he hammered

A) Thought, and still think you are scum B) How exactly am I supposed to react? I was surprised that was a hammer......I said as much that I didn't think we were close.

[Doctor Drew]

You seemed pretty okay with it after the fact despite not knowing. I thought it was a hammer because of Haggle's comment.

Do you even have a solid case for why I'm scum? Or are you going to join everyone else and not give any reasons why I'm scummy.

Well since you are ignoring the hood and the question I asked.

Why do you think one of me or Joan is scum neighborizer.....and why do you believe it is most likely me?

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Maybe I did ask it in here? Wasn't in the hood tbh.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Maybe I did ask it in here? Wasn't in the hood tbh.

I am going crazy haha, you can't ignore something I didn't ask lol.

But, still.....why are you convinced Joan or I is a scum neighborizer and why do you believe it to be me Aaron?

[Doctor Drew]

You seemed pretty okay with it after the fact despite not knowing. I thought it was a hammer because of Haggle's comment.

Do you even have a solid case for why I'm scum? Or are you going to join everyone else and not give any reasons why I'm scummy.

Also what does 'seemed pretty ok with it' even mean?

How about your reaction? You were super angry, might call it over the top. Even took awhile before claiming.

If I was quick lynched as town I would claim right away and tell town to go fuck themselves because I am [insert town role here] right away.

If you thought you were definitely hammered, why didn't you do that. I could see just telling town to fuckoff and then leaving forever.....but you stayed active and did eventually claim.....even though initially you claimed you were busy.

[Doctor Drew]

I was at work when I checked the thread and saw Haggle's post asking if you had hammered, so I wasn't completely able to catch up and interact in real time.

Yeah I was pissed, as I'm sure most people would be when they get lol lynched as town for no good reason. I fully intended on claiming but I wanted to get it out there first that I was the one put in the hood with you since you had been alluding to it already.

What you do when you get quicklynched as town != what I would do when i get quicklynched as town. I wanted to get all my thoughts out there before I bit the dust.

So, you are saying that two different people can have two different reactions to a given situation?

Huh....fancy that.

[Doctor Drew]

And you didn't answer my question, what about the whole Aaron quick hammer makes me look scummy.....or at least scummier than Bambi.

[Doctor Drew]

The original question, smart ass.

Obv I saw that one.

That was the question.......yes it was presented to everyone.......but you could of not been a smart ass and just answer it instead of being like everyone who scum reads me and doesn't answer my questions. You were engaging me at the time, I guess only you can question me and not vice versa.

And how is the Bambi who just posted working for town?

[Doctor Drew]

Chk, sorry I am not sure why I kept thinking it was you.

And I stated really early I was probably sheeping Titus, and I somewhat have.

As for the other votes, I dunno, probably because I thought they were scummy at the time.....isn't voting your scum reads what you are supposed to do? (Also still think Aaron is scummy). I don't do anything for town cred, and if I was I was doing a pretty shitty job of it......this is a big part of the reason I am being mis read as scum.

Should I not vote anyone? Is there is a magical person I can vote that makes you realize I am not scum? I can't fucking take a sip of water without someone screaming 'Look at how he drinks water, just like scum would do!'

And you didn't answer my question, what about the whole Aaron quick hammer makes me look scummy.....or at least scummier than Bambi.

And either respond to the entirety of this post or just don't.......you clearly just said you saw this.

What's your issue?

[Doctor Drew]

When I try to engage someone my questions and/or concerns get ignored or written off as noise or some deep rooted agenda.

Sick of it.

Fuck off or give a good reason why I am the lynch. Cause if I go I want all of it on record so it can be used against them.

Nancy doesn't engage, Aaron doesn't engage, Chk doesn't engage, Bambi just obv scums tbh.

At least Hectic, Amrun, Titus, and Dave are actually using their brains. Sometimes believing me and sometimes not.......but using logic and at least engaging with an unknown instead of putting forth reasons for why someone is scum and then never listening to a counter point.