A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]

[Gentleman 2]

[Gentleman 2]

A warlock, a werewolf and a vampire

And a god

[Gentleman 2]

I am pretty fine townreading Gentleman 1 here.

[Gentleman 2]

The names are confusing. It's really hard to differentiate by numbers. Should we attribute ourselves pseudonyms?

[Gentleman 2]

The theme is warlock, werewolf and vampire. Gentleman 8 is the prince. There should have other classes we can use.

[Gentleman 2]

Human, nymph, dryad, dwarf, elf, wizard, druid, priest, sorcerer, bard, white knight. Make your pick.

[Gentleman 2]

Gentleman 1 can be the skeleton.

Names for better distinguish:

Gentleman 1 - Skeleton
Gentleman 8 - Prince

[Gentleman 2]

Call me whatever you want as long as it's not Peach >:(

I'll call you Maria then

[Gentleman 2]

Pick whatever you like for my name. I'm not sure what word other players would describe me with.

Jadis, the witch

[Gentleman 2]

Pick whatever you like for my name. I'm not sure what word other players would describe me with.

Jadis, the witch

I mean: the White Witch

[Gentleman 2]

I'm overwhelmed by the amount of posts and the alt names and I'm going to replace out, as opposed to struggling through this. I bit off more than I could chew (this is my second game), I need to ease into some micros or something before I try another large theme game. Good luck everyone, I hope everyone slays it (it being mafia) on the dance floor! Hopefully since we're only a few hours into the game, my replacement won't have too much trouble catching up.

I need to bring some new micro games to life

[Gentleman 2]

Human, nymph, dryad, dwarf, elf, wizard, druid, priest, sorcerer, bard, white knight. Make your pick.

this is a bad post

Ok Maximillion

[Gentleman 2]

I think Gentleman 6 is town here too

[Gentleman 2]

Human, nymph, dryad, dwarf, elf, wizard, druid, priest, sorcerer, bard, white knight. Make your pick.

If I get with the IC can I be the princess

Sure. But for now you're JK Rowling.

[Gentleman 2]

I think Earth lady is town

[Gentleman 2]

VOTE: Gentleman 4

[Gentleman 2]

Pardon, majesty. It's just my advice to evict Gentleman 4.

[Gentleman 2]

And L4, why G2? He's barely done anything.

Exactly. Other gentlemen have been better.

Quantity is not synonym to alignment. Quality is what matters.

[Gentleman 2]

All I have to say is that lady Earth and Gent 6 are town and thus can be the endgaming pair

[Gentleman 2]

Everything else is just postgame showoff

[Gentleman 2]

I am only aleight with Gents 1, 6 and 8, so others are sus.

[Gentleman 2]

Gent 6 and Lady 5 should pair up and whoever is unpaired rn waits for deadline to hit and we all leave together.

[Gentleman 2]

G2 is a fool.

Not as much as all the unwanted pairs formed so far

[Gentleman 2]

This is the easiest phase of the game for scum to act like town.

I completely expect all the current reads to be reversed like a sleeve after we see the first flip.

Suspect the gents being townread for no reason

[Gentleman 2]

This is the easiest phase of the game for scum to act like town.

I completely expect all the current reads to be reversed like a sleeve after we see the first flip.

Suspect the gents being townread for no reason

who is being townread for no reason?

Gent 3, Gent 4, Gent 5 and Gent 9

[Gentleman 2]

Scum wants to pair up as soon as possible. Gent 5 or Gent 9 comes into mind.

[Gentleman 2]

Scum wants to pair up as soon as possible. Gent 5 or Gent 9 comes into mind.

This depends on how comfortable scum are and we don't really know the answer to that. If you're a confident scum player and think you can pair up by being townie you don't need to pair up asap considering it will bring eyes to you. And that's not even considering the ladies although I do think there's some merit in the ladies to try and wait out pairings, but since this hasn't happened I had nothing to trap people with. A shame

It's best to be quick to pair up because the longer you take, the higher the chance of being left out

[Gentleman 2]

Scum wants to pair up as soon as possible. Gent 5 or Gent 9 comes into mind.

This depends on how comfortable scum are and we don't really know the answer to that. If you're a confident scum player and think you can pair up by being townie you don't need to pair up asap considering it will bring eyes to you. And that's not even considering the ladies although I do think there's some merit in the ladies to try and wait out pairings, but since this hasn't happened I had nothing to trap people with. A shame

It's best to be quick to pair up because the longer you take, the higher the chance of being left out

There's also that if they pair up asap they get the best ladies and won't be primary subjects to scrutinity when left out gent flips town.

[Gentleman 2]

So gent 4 and gent 5 are the scum

[Gentleman 2]

Which ladies would voluntarily reject all gentlemen so we can have a higher number of lynches?

[Gentleman 2]

Gents 6 and 8 still must be paired up, so it leaves Gents 2, 3, 4 and 7. We need three brave ladies.

[Gentleman 2]

Gent 5 and Gent 9 being scum might really complicate things up.

[Gentleman 2]

Gent 4, gent 5 and gent 9. At least one of them should be a hit unless we have three furies ladies.

[Gentleman 2]

G2, what makes you so confident on both me and G6?

I mindmelded with you when you said a couple of players were taking up all the discussion.

G6 seems to be genuinely town struggling with names.

[Gentleman 2]

Scum wants to pair up as soon as possible. Gent 5 or Gent 9 comes into mind.

Yeah but why are the ladies excluded from this

They don't have to worry about being unpaired

[Gentleman 2]

Ok, I think lady Earth can pair with the prince. Or that lady who offered the princess avatar.

[Gentleman 2]

Perhaps my number counterpart is scum.

[Gentleman 2]

I hate trying to not look obvious.

[Gentleman 2]

How do you all feel about a triple leave?

[Gentleman 2]

man you boys rather die than take salad girl's hand

How do you feel about her?

[Gentleman 2]

I lean town on the fact she wasn't pushed to pair as soon as possible, but I want to know how you all feel about her.

[Gentleman 2]

It was very fun but maybe we should play the game now :/

G2 should probably move the game along and pair up as he is the last one left but I guess that's up to him.

Will that mean we're the first pair leaving after pre-dance?

[Gentleman 2]

Lady 4, will you accept color hairstyles for men to have and to hold from this day forward, for townier-for scummier, for righter-for wronger, in game sickness and in mental health, to pair and to survive, till inevitable lynch us do part?

[Gentleman 2]

Or just for this phase to be over.

[Gentleman 2]

If I am going down this phase, G7/L4 should be our winning pair.

[Gentleman 2]

Is anyone going to point out that G2.shades did not actually ask for a dance and the game might be stalled further

It didn't count?

[Gentleman 2]

Is anyone going to point out that G2.shades did not actually ask for a dance and the game might be stalled further

It didn't count?

To be on the safe side I think you should bold a request for her to dance with you even if your intent is clear

Lady 4, do you want to dance with me through one of those lonely nights?

[Gentleman 2]

lady 3 leaving out her own pair is understandable since she is not so confident on her partner

No leaving out, vote out

[Gentleman 2]

What was the activity pace we were talking about?

[Gentleman 2]

Me, but I don’t see why that’s sus

More sus the players suggesting G7 be paired up over me.

[Gentleman 2]

I love being in the top of the pyramid.

[Gentleman 2]

Me, but I don’t see why that’s sus

More sus the players suggesting G7 be paired up over me.

Yes, although you’re suspicious too

Do we have to find out I am town to start looking for the players favoring G7 over me?

[Gentleman 2]

Someone tell me I did a good job please.
My ego depends on it.

Your pyramid is pretty good, so good job.

[Gentleman 2]

If I am going down this phase, G7/L4 should be our winning pair.

If I would die and flip scum, what would be the point of posting that?

[Gentleman 2]

Why did you think G7/L4 should endgame at that point is probably the more pertinent question, G2?

I was part of the "only town gentlemen are left atp" club.

[Gentleman 2]

It's possible I'm a victim of confirmation bias, but I still feel as though the best vote at the moment may be Lady 1/Gentleman 6.

Lady 1 probably made the most attempt of anyone to get Gentleman 7 paired. At least, to memory.

Spoiler:

Lady 6 don't break my friend Gent 7s heart. You should dance with him

Lady 6 don't break my friend Gent 7s heart. You should dance with him

I unironically support this btw

Killing number 7 is a huge mistake
doing so would make my heart ache
All you need to do is look at the signs
and you'll realize his posts are fine
In time you'll find the real fake

For Gentleman 6, it's actually a conspicuous

lack

of mention of Gentleman 7. As near as I can tell, there isn't a single direct reference to him in G6's entire ISO. He's even excluded from his readslist with basically no comment:

Spoiler:

What are your reads?

At this point, I am trying to sort by pairs, and not solos. I'm working on a formalized reads list and then intend to denote which half of a pair I like better/worse... even though mechanically at this point it doesn't matter!

Since my last townreads list:

Guy 3 is town. (I suspect I both know who he is, and don't know who is is at the same time and it vexes me)
Guy 2 is town. (Is nobody going to address that he's playing so carefree he didn't even notice I'm not the player who was having issues, even though I explicitly made it a part of my opening moves)
Lady 5 is town. (Do I really need to explain this one?)

I have decided to add Lady 1 (tenative on PT sort), Lady 7 (Mostly for her early scumread of my slot's replaceout in post 336, amusingly enough), and Gentleman 1.

Most of those are from re-reading the part of the game that happened before I replaced in.

That gives me a town block that looks something like this (Assuming we see G2-L4):

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8

Gentleman 1

-

Lady 7

Gentleman 8

-

Lady 5

Gentleman 3

-

Lady 3

Gentleman 6

-

Lady 1

Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

Gentleman 2

-

Lady 4

Essentially, I don't think that "proper" scumhunting is all that productive right now. I'd rather just find three town-town pairs and mass-hemlock the rest. (And I am mostly including myself in the hemlocking, not the three)

Gentleman 6 looks way worse here.

[Gentleman 2]

I'm TWTBAWing Lady 1 though.

[Gentleman 2]

I'm TWTBAWing Lady 1 though.

You probably shouldn't. I have no doubt that a scum Lady 1 open wolfs and calls herself wolf.

In that case:

VOTE: L1-G6

[Gentleman 2]

I'll be honest I am starting to just think L2 is scum

I already had Lady 2 as scum earlier.

[Gentleman 2]

I really wish L2 was paired with G6 tbh :/

Me too.

[Gentleman 2]

I think it's actually relatively townie?

That sequence looks pretty forced imo.

[Gentleman 2]

I think it's actually relatively townie?

That sequence looks pretty forced imo.

Really? Hm. Lady 2 simultaneously calls you town and says your take on Gent 7 being our locktown is garbage. What makes it seem forced?

It's garbage

what

You understand me.

[Gentleman 2]

VOTE: G4-L2

[Gentleman 2]

It's possible Lady 4 is scum and I don't mind getting to leave this game so I can return to my original account. I just kind of feel bad because she said she didn't want to leave so soon when she noted she would have to pair with G7 or me.

[Gentleman 2]

good sir gentleman 2,

could you please talk about what you were thinking when you made these two posts?

How do you all feel about a triple leave?

If I am going down this phase, G7/L4 should be our winning pair.

First post: I don't like lone townflips. If one of us had to flip town, it's better we all just flip town together.

Second post: G7, L4 and me were all leftovers. I assumed we should all just be town who wolves left behind for their amusement.

[Gentleman 2]

I feel sorry you aren't enjoying the game more g2.shades

I don't mind continuing playing. I am afraid of mainslipping or sounding too obvious who I am.

[Gentleman 2]

Alternatively, we can just lynch the pairs containing scum and get it home earlier.

[Gentleman 2]

My current theory is that Gent 2 is scum and Lady 4 is town

Then you're wrong.

[Gentleman 2]

Lady 4 I think you are town and Gent 2 is mafia

It looks like you don't want to engage with Lady 4 so you push the weakest link of the pair.

[Gentleman 2]

My current theory is that Gent 2 is scum and Lady 4 is town

Then you're wrong.

this is not gonna convince anyone

You're terribly underestimating scum. If you think the game is easy, you're definitely wrong.

[Gentleman 2]

Do you think there's a non-neglible number of players that consistently posts more (and what they're posting isn't fluff) as scum rather than town?

I'd say every scumteam should have at least one good scum. Gent 7 was probably the scum who couldn't keep up with the thread so he fell off. The other two scum must be in a fairly good spot if not better.

[Gentleman 2]

My current theory is that Gent 2 is scum and Lady 4 is town

Then you're wrong.

this is not gonna convince anyone

You're terribly underestimating scum. If you think the game is easy, you're definitely wrong.

ok but you need to do the work to show us you're town if you are

I can't do anything if you confbias on your other townreads.

[Gentleman 2]

Do you think there's a non-neglible number of players that consistently posts more (and what they're posting isn't fluff) as scum rather than town?

I'd say every scumteam should have at least one good scum. Gent 7 was probably the scum who couldn't keep up with the thread so he fell off. The other two scum must be in a fairly good spot if not better.

I appreciate you trying to think about the game but this is just gambler's fallacy.

It's not gambler's fallacy, it's common sense. A team of potatoes can't win, but a team of good-positioned scum can win if town goes for the potatoes.

[Gentleman 2]

Do you think there's a non-neglible number of players that consistently posts more (and what they're posting isn't fluff) as scum rather than town?

I'd say every scumteam should have at least one good scum. Gent 7 was probably the scum who couldn't keep up with the thread so he fell off. The other two scum must be in a fairly good spot if not better.

I appreciate you trying to think about the game but this is just gambler's fallacy.

It's not gambler's fallacy, it's common sense. A team of potatoes can't win, but a team of good-positioned scum can win if town goes for the potatoes.

yes it is entirely possible that scum cannot win this game; the scumteam is full of potatoes. There is no reason to remove that possibility.

It's why as a paramedic you should always assume the worst.

[Gentleman 2]

Gentleman 5 and Lady 2 are the most suspicious here.

[Gentleman 2]

Gentleman 5 and Lady 2 are the most suspicious here.

Why Lady 2?

Perhaps it's her metal plate body that makes her sound robotical.

[Gentleman 2]

I know we're not endgame material, but it would really help to end game earlier by finding the scum.

[Gentleman 2]

Assume we both flip town. Which pairs would you look at after we flip?

[Gentleman 2]

by your own convictions both you and Lady 4 should be like super town right?

Yes, I strongly townread L4. I just find it hard for you all to want me to endgame.

[Gentleman 2]

where do you want us to look if you flip town-town?

G5's interaction was particularly the scummiest for me, but he wasn't the only and hence I'm asking for what you all think.

[Gentleman 2]

where do you want us to look if you flip town-town?

G5's interaction was particularly the scummiest for me, but he wasn't the only and hence I'm asking for what you all think.

Oops, redundance.

[Gentleman 2]

where do you want us to look if you flip town-town?

G5's interaction was particularly the scummiest for me, but he wasn't the only and hence I'm asking for what you all think.

are you referring to him asking Lady 8 to dance?

No, him attacking the weakest link of our pair.

[Gentleman 2]

No, him attacking the weakest link of our pair.

Is there scum motivation behind pushing for your elimination? Or was there something about how he did it in particular

There's definitely motivation if the next in line is their buddy, which could be inside the G4/L2 pair.

[Gentleman 2]

No, him attacking the weakest link of our pair.

Is there scum motivation behind pushing for your elimination? Or was there something about how he did it in particular

There's definitely motivation if the next in line is their buddy, which could be inside the G4/L2 pair.

I guess. Maybe if they flipped town/town and he started advocating for not eliminating G4/L2 that could hold weight

I don't see why the order would matter if he'll just go along with consensus and attack G4/L2 next in line, anyway, though, which is what I would expect to happen

Where would you look next if our pair flipped town-town?

[Gentleman 2]

VOTE: G9-L3

[Gentleman 2]

VOTE: G9-L3

why this over G5?

I'm willing to listen to L8 and I already had a soft scumread on G9.

[Gentleman 2]

I still think L5 is town here. Stay firm!

[Gentleman 2]

do you remember why you wanted gentleman 4 to be left out in pre-dance?

I remember I scumread them. I don't remember why.

[Gentleman 2]

he hadn't asked anyone

So he was the only eligible non-townread to leave.

[Gentleman 2]

can you talk a little about why you thought three town flips was better in pre-dance than pairing up with someone you think (thought at the time?) is town?

I'm afraid of leaving town out and I didn't want to be left out either. G7 and I were both being scumread at the time, so why not?

[Gentleman 2]

and can you expand a little about which couples you currently trust and which you don't, preferably with a bit of why

I trust you and L5. In fact, I suggested L5 should be the endgame player.

I trust L6 and I trust how L6 reads G3.

I trust L7, but I'm not sure how much I trust G1 right now.

I'm not sure how to feel about G6-L1.

I think all of G9-L3, G5-L8, and G4-L2 have the potential to contain scum. The first two I lean scum in the gentlemen, the latter one I lean the lady being scum.

[Gentleman 2]

listen to L8 on what? she doesn't have a case on me compared to L7/L3/whomever else

you didnt answer my question

There's no case for you to be town either, so I'm willing to test a push here.

[Gentleman 2]

i find it hard to believe that you would place a pair as your "favorite pair" if you don't townread one of the two.

Incase you were talking to me, at the time I suggested a G6-L5 endgame pair, I had a strong townread on both G6 and L5.

[Gentleman 2]

Shouldn't endgame:

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

[Gentleman 2]

My PT is like three posts.

[Gentleman 2]

Sorry, L4. I'm very apathetic this game and I doubt town will get scum anytime soon.

VOTE: G2-L4

[Gentleman 2]

and can you expand a little about which couples you currently trust and which you don't, preferably with a bit of why

I trust you and L5. In fact, I suggested L5 should be the endgame player.

I trust L6 and I trust how L6 reads G3.

I trust L7, but I'm not sure how much I trust G1 right now.

I'm not sure how to feel about G6-L1.

I think all of G9-L3, G5-L8, and G4-L2 have the potential to contain scum. The first two I lean scum in the gentlemen, the latter one I lean the lady being scum.

Shouldn't endgame:

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

These are pretty much my final thoughts. Gent 5 and Gent 9 are terrible here. Lady 2 looks underwhelming.

[Gentleman 2]

It's antitown to leave the dance. We need VCA.

[Gentleman 2]

I mean individual vote analysis.

[Gentleman 2]

We either hammer our pair or we all move to a different one. Wagon stagnancy is extremely antitown.

[Gentleman 2]

You decrease the amount of VCA info by 1 vote if you selfvote, if you want to be consistent. Refusing to selfvote forces one more person to be involved in the wagon.

No one is voting our pair and no one is moving off our pair. It's permanently stuck at six or seven votes and other wagons are being completely ignored.

Take this as a challenge.

[Gentleman 2]

If we're waiting for Gentleman 3, why don't we all move to a different wagon? We can always return to this wagon if the other pair is townier and I fail to be towny.

[Gentleman 2]

I'm surprised you're not picking up on the inconsistency.

Leaving dance is just a 20x multivoter selfvote.

No, we need the votes to judge each voter on the pair.

[Gentleman 2]

If we're waiting for Gentleman 3, why don't we all move to a different wagon? We can always return to this wagon if the other pair is townier and I fail to be towny.

Why would we wagon someone we don't intend to eliminate

You don't wagon someone you want to eliminate, you wagon someone to determine whether you want to eliminate them or not. That's how mafia works, not your "scum gives themself in a silver platter" world.

[Gentleman 2]

If we need to get the game moving, fine, provide your reasons and vote me. It's just unacceptable to sit on the wagon without moving it forward.

If you can't move the wagon forward, change to another.

[Gentleman 2]

each voter

You're so closer
yes we get information about each voter
there will be 9 of them
if one of them is you that's not useful information about that voter, you won't be in the game anymore
you could collect information about a different player instead

The wagon is never getting forwarded. I will stay with the same six or seven voted until we have to compromise.

[Gentleman 2]

VOTE: G9-L3

We'll never get a proper read on someone if they're not at risk of death.

[Gentleman 2]

Lady 8, if I leave and flip town, are you willing to leave the dance right next?

[Gentleman 2]

We'll see.

[Gentleman 2]

If she says yes, we'll find out. If she doesn't say yes, we won't find out.

[Gentleman 2]

No concrete answer, probably. Why are you still asking this?

[Gentleman 2]

Shouldn't endgame:

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

these suck

We lose then.

[Gentleman 2]

we've only been in dance a few days and the thread is still moving a lot, the game isn't "stagnant"

We have different definitions of a moving game then. I'd consider a day with only one pair being wagoned deader than a cemetery.

[Gentleman 2]

His actions right now seem oriented towards keeping an antitown status quo. We barely gain info on anything and so we don't get a solid pair for endgame.

[Gentleman 2]

His actions right now seem oriented towards keeping an antitown status quo. We barely gain info on anything and so we don't get a solid pair for endgame.

By virtue of pushing for your elimination? Or is there more? I dont take issue with eliminating your pair.

Town doesn't gain anything either because scum didn't leave their comfort zone.

[Gentleman 2]

Shouldn't endgame:

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

Okay, just go for these next.

Lady 4, do you want to say something before we leave?

[Gentleman 2]

Game is stagnant FYI. Resistance for wagon movements and perpetually confbiasing reads are huge red flags for a proscum gamestate. If anyone's willing to challenge this gamestate, I already offered the options.

[Gentleman 2]

Every hang after yours will be a nontrivial decision and it's hard for me to read into the motivations of G5 because I feel like your pair was always going to be pushed by town and scum.

Difference between them is that town will genuinely evaluate every pair instead of just following a predetermined order pretending to be confident it will work.

[Gentleman 2]

G2shades do you still feel that G4 is scummy the way you did when you entered the game?

I don't townread him. I could see him flipping scum. But I think Lady 2 is more likely to be scum and I don't see a scum-scum pair.

[Gentleman 2]

Every hang after yours will be a nontrivial decision and it's hard for me to read into the motivations of G5 because I feel like your pair was always going to be pushed by town and scum.

That's pretty much why I'm not reading it. It was a foregone conclusion and I dont see why scum would favour pushing it early over town. Its not a move to save Gent 5's mate in another pair, cause this wagon would happen regardless of what other pairs are voted today (Which is a theory I recall gent 2 having)

Don't you think it is antitown for a wagon to be unreadable?

[Gentleman 2]

If you're town and you're doing nothing, am I really scummy for pushing you?

I don't know. Looks like Gent 5 is somehow trying to mine cred.

[Gentleman 2]

Gentleman 1 - Lady 7

Is the most trustable for endgame assuming G8-L5 leaves in intermission.

[Gentleman 2]

If it's not Gent 5, it's Gent 9.

[Gentleman 2]

If you're town and you're doing nothing, am I really scummy for pushing you?

I don't know. Looks like Gent 5 is somehow trying to mine cred.

That more or less just looked like challenging your read as being just a weak OMGUS, I dont think he was suggesting he's town for it

Falselu saying I did nothing and coming off with better cred for bothering to push a mislynch. The kind of false confidence I see scum build lately in games.

[Gentleman 2]

After we flip, G4-L2 is going to be next, right?

[Gentleman 2]

After we flip, G4-L2 is going to be next, right?

If the totem pole remains the same and we follow it, probably.

I thought you wanted us to do G9 or G5 and avoid following consensus, though. Wouldn't your argument against those wagoning you then, in turn, apply to those who go after G4/L2 next?

Stagnant wagons are problematic. Though, it's hard to achieve anything when nine votes are needed to lynch.

[Gentleman 2]

I think Gent 1 is scum

I could consider it. But then confbias warriors would say I am all over the place and I am afraid of Gent 5 endgaming town after being given a free pass from a free mislynch.

[Gentleman 2]

I don't see why Gent 5 is being townread. It doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game. I feel like Gent 5 and Gent 9 get townread for their verbose.

[Gentleman 2]

[Gentleman 2]

Welp. Here goes my white knight.

[Gentleman 2]

What was the scumslip?

[Gentleman 2]

I'm getting paranoid Gent 1 is intentionally jesting to look town and seal his pair to be the endgaming one.

[Gentleman 2]

VOTE: G4-L2

[Gentleman 2]

If it's not Gent 5, it's Gent 9.

Gentleman 1 - Lady 7

Is the most trustable for endgame assuming G8-L5 leaves in intermission.

G2shades do you still feel that G4 is scummy the way you did when you entered the game?

I don't townread him. I could see him flipping scum. But I think Lady 2 is more likely to be scum and I don't see a scum-scum pair.

Shouldn't endgame:

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

Okay, just go for these next.

Lady 4, do you want to say something before we leave?

Shouldn't endgame:

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

these suck

We lose then.

Lady 8, if I leave and flip town, are you willing to leave the dance right next?

VOTE: G9-L3

We'll never get a proper read on someone if they're not at risk of death.

and can you expand a little about which couples you currently trust and which you don't, preferably with a bit of why

I trust you and L5. In fact, I suggested L5 should be the endgame player.

I trust L6 and I trust how L6 reads G3.

I trust L7, but I'm not sure how much I trust G1 right now.

I'm not sure how to feel about G6-L1.

I think all of G9-L3, G5-L8, and G4-L2 have the potential to contain scum. The first two I lean scum in the gentlemen, the latter one I lean the lady being scum.

Shouldn't endgame:

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

These are pretty much my final thoughts. Gent 5 and Gent 9 are terrible here. Lady 2 looks underwhelming.

Shouldn't endgame:

Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

and can you expand a little about which couples you currently trust and which you don't, preferably with a bit of why

I trust you and L5. In fact, I suggested L5 should be the endgame player.

I trust L6 and I trust how L6 reads G3.

I trust L7, but I'm not sure how much I trust G1 right now.

I'm not sure how to feel about G6-L1.

I think all of G9-L3, G5-L8, and G4-L2 have the potential to contain scum. The first two I lean scum in the gentlemen, the latter one I lean the lady being scum.

I still think L5 is town here. Stay firm!

VOTE: G9-L3

No, him attacking the weakest link of our pair.

Is there scum motivation behind pushing for your elimination? Or was there something about how he did it in particular

There's definitely motivation if the next in line is their buddy, which could be inside the G4/L2 pair.

I guess. Maybe if they flipped town/town and he started advocating for not eliminating G4/L2 that could hold weight

I don't see why the order would matter if he'll just go along with consensus and attack G4/L2 next in line, anyway, though, which is what I would expect to happen

Where would you look next if our pair flipped town-town?

No, him attacking the weakest link of our pair.

Is there scum motivation behind pushing for your elimination? Or was there something about how he did it in particular

There's definitely motivation if the next in line is their buddy, which could be inside the G4/L2 pair.

[Gentleman 2]

I definitely have more posts I tried to make the first move, but I don't want to quote half my ISO just because Gent 1 is illiterate.

[Gentleman 2]

Like, at this point we're gonna speed lynch the 2nd pair whoever that is and we kinda need time to process the first flip.

What about we wagon G4-L2 and have Lady 4 or I leave the dance if we're still untrustworthy?

[Gentleman 2]

(´• ‸ •`✿)

ask lady 3 to dance

This is too early.

Please for the love of Arceus if you're gonna do this, do it in your dance PT, or merged together in one big post with spoiler tags.

Nostalgia

[Gentleman 2]

I now know who Gent 6 is and he is probably fine.

[Gentleman 2]

What is M.O.?

[Gentleman 2]

What is M.O.?

A modus operandi is someone's habits of working, particularly in the context of business or criminal investigations, but also more generally. It is a Latin phrase, approximately translated as mode of operating

O.B.

[Gentleman 2]

Guy the 2nd... Do your best without stating who you think I am, to tell me why me being who you think i am makes me suddenly rise in town-likelyhood?

What are your expectations of player-x?

I no longer see you as a possible lolscum.

[Gentleman 2]

Oh yeah,

great, the three of us

get to be the town's entertainment in pre-dance and then we get lynched immediately since everyone will have a polarized and matured opinion of us by the start of the dance. Terrific.

I changed my approach and started to read through G7's ISO.

Who is G7 referencing in the bolded? I couldn't tell by the nearby thread markers.

L4, G7 and me. The three remaining unpaired.

[Gentleman 2]

VOTE: G5-L8

[Gentleman 2]

VOTE: G5-L8

Why the vote change?

Needs a bit of spice and G5 voted both 2-4 pairs.

[Gentleman 2]

This game pisses me off people post so much and they are just repeating themselves over and over and not actually developing anything

Don't worry, today is a circlejerking into eliminating both 2-4 pairs.

[Gentleman 2]

i just want to hear what gentleman 2 thinks about this (unless he addressed it in recent pages and i missed it, not really reading atm, busy)

if gentleman 2 voluntarily leaves the dance, i would be willing to listen to and push his strongest read in this game (be it town or scum)

i want to hear if gentleman 2 will consider that offer

I don't know who is my strongest read between G5, G9 and L2.

[Gentleman 2]

What did you expect me to say as town?

Lady 5 is still town.

Lady 7 is my top townread and Gent 1 looks good actually.

Gent 6 is pretty alright and Lady 1 seemed villagery.

I don't feel paranoid enough about Lady 6 yet and I'm willing to trust them on Gent 3 if they're town.

Lady 4 seemed willing to die by expressing a scumread on me.

That leaves exactly the three pairs I always mentioned:
Gentleman 9 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 8
Gentleman 4 - Lady 2

Plenty of these players have the potential to flip scum. I think the game should end with these lynches. Hence I'm willing to vote any of them.

Lady 8's deal was unexpected because I fear losing credibility if I am wrong

[Gentleman 2]

Whatever. Solved the game for you all.

[Gentleman 2]

I'm tired for today. If you're all just circlejerking back to Lady 4 and me, then just be quick about it. I already left the instructions on where to go next.