Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[Battle Mage]

hi Noraa

[Battle Mage]

Oh hi bm

hi Johnny

are you scum?

if not, who is scum?

did i claim yet?

if so, what?

[Battle Mage]

BM is it time for us to team up again? Knowing you you'll think I rolled scum this game

*peeks out from covers* is A50 here too?

[Battle Mage]

superbowl, are we townblocking? i havent read anything yet, so early preview welcome!

[Battle Mage]

hi Noraa

BM!!!!!!!!

-excitednornor

<3 I'm excited to see you too, and also at peace with the fact you being here means I don't need to worry about anything after this dayphase.

[Battle Mage]

PLEASE because right now the townblock is weird gamma and 2 newbies

great, who are the newbies? and who are we elimming?

[Battle Mage]

Town!Taylor doesn't give two shits what anyone thinks about anything/anyone. Hmmmmmm.

thats true but i do caere about the game being fun due to limited toxicity. the game is currently not meeting that threshold.

don't worry, I'm here...to...uh....save the day?

[Battle Mage]

I see no reason to continue spending my freetime playing a forum game to be insulted by strangers on the internet who obsess on winning a game with no stakes behind it. I don't feel like I'm the only one who feels this game has become toxic either. I'm replacing out.

This is should get modkilled!

I hope i dont have to explain why.

what the fk is this?

[Battle Mage]

this is the most toxic mafia game I've ever played

what an endorsement! no wonder Marashu was so keen to let me rep in...

I'm enjoying the read so far- will work my way through over the next couple of days.

[Battle Mage]

Except Cat cause it got confused. Insert BlackMage there

what the fuck is with this 'black mage' crap? can we keep my ethnicity out of it, thanks

[Battle Mage]

Except Cat cause it got confused. Insert BlackMage there

what the fuck is with this 'black mage' crap? can we keep my ethnicity out of it, thanks

oh yes, you were the one who tried to get my predecessor modkilled

[Battle Mage]

it's alright, seems there always one clever clogs in every game nowadays who thinks that shit is funny.

[Battle Mage]

Chaos is town.

I'm undecided on Guillotina - lots of examples of selective reading, bad faith arguments, and strawmanning, which would suggest scum. But the abrasive, confrontational and un-cooperative approach makes me think town. I don't think Guillotina-scum survives long in this game, so willing to give the benefit of the doubt for today at least.

My initial hero solve is Gamma-Tom-Aristo, although I haven't read all the way through yet.

[Battle Mage]

I sort of like the progression in Catboi's ISO, as it has the vibe of genuine solving. But it's also pretty cagey and not throwing a lot of shade.

Catboi - who are your top scumreads today?

[Battle Mage]

hmm thats an interesting interpretation of what i said

Is it? Tell me all about it.

if you're town, you don't do yourself any favours.

[Battle Mage]

Chaos is town.

I'm undecided on Guillotina - lots of examples of selective reading, bad faith arguments, and strawmanning, which would suggest scum. But the abrasive, confrontational and un-cooperative approach makes me think town. I don't think Guillotina-scum survives long in this game, so willing to give the benefit of the doubt for today at least.

My initial hero solve is Gamma-Tom-Aristo, although I haven't read all the way through yet.

Also, can you explain to me what “stawmanning” is please?

strawmanning is when you suggest someone is making a particular argument, which they are not making, and then proceed to explain why that argument doesn't hold.

[Battle Mage]

hmm thats an interesting interpretation of what i said

Is it? Tell me all about it.

if you're town, you don't do yourself any favours.

Yah? Why is that?

because you're arguing about sod all for the sake of it.

[Battle Mage]

can we all just compromise on a VOTE: pob long

[Battle Mage]

hmm thats an interesting interpretation of what i said

Is it? Tell me all about it.

if you're town, you don't do yourself any favours.

Yah? Why is that?

because you're arguing about sod all for the sake of it.

Im sorry, can you elaborate on that?

Arguing about sod

?

lol in my country "sod all" is a nice way of saying "fk all" i.e. nothing

where are you from?

[Battle Mage]

can we all just compromise on a VOTE: pob long

Pob Long will most likely get replaced and killing him will get us no info. So no, any yeet for the sake of yeeting someone is not good for me. Unless of course you can point out the benefit of his yeet.

he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town, and I have a low tolerance for letting quiet scum survive too long. Who knows what info we'll get - depends what happens next (i.e. who votes for him, who doesn't, who defends him and why). These open games are pretty swingy, so I think scum might have a lower propensity to bus (eliminate their team-mates) than normal.

[Battle Mage]

hmm thats an interesting interpretation of what i said

Is it? Tell me all about it.

ok

i think guillo is probably just scum here and should die.

So you doubt im scum and i should die anyways. Good to know

me: youre most likely scum and should therefore die
you: you said im most likely town and should die anyway

You didnt say most likely, you said Im

probably

just scum. Probably indicates doubt like words such as maybe, perhaps etc. So you said that maybe im just scum and you are willing to yeet me without certainty of your own read.

If I say... hmmm maybe you are scum, lets kill you. How would you take it?

ooh ooh I can answer this!

It's completely normal not to express absolute certainty in your reads, especially on Day 1 when it's unlikely you have any mechanical knowledge of the game. Also "probably" and "maybe" are different. This, btw, is an example of strawmanning - you're attacking Taylor for something that she didn't say, although even if she had said it, it wouldnt have been particularly scummy.

[Battle Mage]

anyway, let's turn up the heat on pob long!

[Battle Mage]

i dont like to pretend that my scumreads are definitely scum.

hey, is that a shot at me?

[Battle Mage]

can we all just compromise on a VOTE: pob long

Pob Long will most likely get replaced and killing him will get us no info. So no, any yeet for the sake of yeeting someone is not good for me. Unless of course you can point out the benefit of his yeet.

he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town, and I have a low tolerance for letting quiet scum survive too long. Who knows what info we'll get - depends what happens next (i.e. who votes for him, who doesn't, who defends him and why). These open games are pretty swingy, so I think scum might have a lower propensity to bus (eliminate their team-mates) than normal.

I do have a low tolerance for coasting scum players too but pob long has not done anything to make me think he is either alignment. I'd rather wait to see if he gets substituted by someone who actually wanna play the game because that slot could be a town PR you know?

That said, i'd yeet him out of self preservation.

why do you think he's gonna get substituted?

[Battle Mage]

i dont like to pretend that my scumreads are definitely scum.

hey, is that a shot at me?

it wasnt meant that way. you have definitely done that in the past, but new leaf right?

hmm, wasn't

pretending

, just confident...

[Battle Mage]

Honest Thomas:

Spoiler:

the ongoing one I

honestly

barely read anyone

I

honestly

haven't been able to do anything besides defending myself from getting scum read

5 pages of no real substance though isn't great

Why is it that this post happens every RVS ever played?? Why do people think they see no content (there is AI content in these pages so idek what ur on in the first place), then instead of generating content just complain about it and dip??? I never understand it

also probably because this site's meta for sod1 sucks? lol

So your approach to D1 is “sit back and let others do the work for me”. Good to know

how does this even make sense? i dont think you are understanding stuff correctly here or you arent communicating to me correctly

besides the fact that it's not true

I really haven't read much,

tbh

. I really planned on trying to stay out of the thread

Snoooooooore

@guillotine where you played before did you scumread people who posted four pages of nothing?

I was responding to this post,

tbh

Snoooooooore

@guillotine where you played before did you scumread people who posted four pages of nothing?

I was responding to this post, tbh

I don't believe your push on me is real,

tbh

.

[Battle Mage]

i think the rules state that you have to post once every 48 hours, and if you fail to do so you get prodded. after a prod you have 24 hours to post before getting replaced.

What is getting “prodded” by the way? I keep seeing the term here. Like a warning?

a prod is a private message saying "please post". In reality, and especially in a game like this, Mods are not always meticulous on prodding after that time frame. And pob long HAS posted, he just hasn't said much.

No comment from Taylor on pob long?

[Battle Mage]

my last open game had already finished by now.

[Battle Mage]

i'm the daddy

[Battle Mage]

Gamma-Tom-Aristo

who tf is tom?

-weirdedoutnornor

doubting thomas - sorry I got a bit friendly!

[Battle Mage]

i think the rules state that you have to post once every 48 hours, and if you fail to do so you get prodded. after a prod you have 24 hours to post before getting replaced.

What is getting “prodded” by the way? I keep seeing the term here. Like a warning?

a prod is a private message saying "please post". In reality, and especially in a game like this, Mods are not always meticulous on prodding after that time frame. And pob long HAS posted, he just hasn't said much.

No comment from Taylor on pob long?

I looked into pob long ISO and he has not posted since Nov 13 so... I think he will most likely get substituted and if he comes back and posts again we push him to get more out of him and we make a decision based on that.

a good way to push someone is to vote for them.

also, i doubt he's getting substituted, it's the weekend

[Battle Mage]

doubting thomas - sorry I got a bit friendly!

right. I call them "doubting" lmao. tom sounds better. Maybe I ought to do that.

-nornorthedumdum

depends really - are you doubting them?

[Battle Mage]

can we all just compromise on a VOTE: pob long

Pob Long will most likely get replaced and killing him will get us no info. So no, any yeet for the sake of yeeting someone is not good for me. Unless of course you can point out the benefit of his yeet.

he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town, and I have a low tolerance for letting quiet scum survive

too long

. Who knows what info we'll get - depends what happens next (i.e. who votes for him, who doesn't, who defends him and why). These open games are pretty swingy, so I think scum might have a lower propensity to bus (eliminate their team-mates) than normal.

it's day 1. lol

it's page 34, i've only just got here and i wanna see some action already

[Battle Mage]

can we all just compromise on a VOTE: pob long

Pob Long will most likely get replaced and killing him will get us no info. So no, any yeet for the sake of yeeting someone is not good for me. Unless of course you can point out the benefit of his yeet.

he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town, and I have a low tolerance for letting quiet scum survive

too long

. Who knows what info we'll get - depends what happens next (i.e. who votes for him, who doesn't, who defends him and why). These open games are pretty swingy, so I think scum might have a lower propensity to bus (eliminate their team-mates) than normal.

it's day 1. lol

it's page 34, i've only just got here and i wanna see some action already

so ur scum hunting game is to kill anyone who's low activity first? i am guessing that you don't win much

pfft you bitch! my win rate is in my sig

and no, I'm not necessarily going to kill him, just put some pressure on.

[Battle Mage]

who tf is tom?

-weirdedoutnornor

why are your top 3 scum picks not including pob long?

do you think Chaos should be thinking pob long is scum? they aren't voting there?

[Battle Mage]

you claimed that a 3 person scum team but wants a low poster dead because you want 'something to happen'? in d1? i don't really buy this

that was just my hero solve for the end-game cred. I'm less convinced on Gamma now, but I still think you're pretty scummy.

What's not to buy? Dude, in my last Open game we had literally completed 4 gamedays by this stage.

[Battle Mage]

why don't you want to vote, superb battle mage

thanks for the compliment i guess, i'll let you off the earlier diss

[Battle Mage]

frankly

, when the game has made a consensus elim pool like we did here with guillo-superb-chaos, it's very anti town for a newly subbed in person to try to add additional confusion and instead of elaborating on the consensus choice to try to start everything all over again and derail the thread by pushing low posting slots that people weren't talking about in 33/33 pages of the game thread like you've done.

LOL no dude, you're way off here. It's

pro-town

to actually look at everybody, rather than just going with the consensus by default. Additionally, we have like a week until deadline, so there's plenty of time to get more info if you want and yet you're getting precious about a couple of 2/3 person wagons. It's not "starting everything all over again", it's just adding something new to the conversation. Although from your passionate statement above, it sounds like you're awfully worried about moving away from that existing consensus?

even if you were correct on pob long coasting, it gives us more information to elim out of the consensus so there are more associations to go off of. killing pob long after what we've all discussed is about others gives us 0 info even if pob long was indeed a low effort wolf. and there's no guarantee in that either, of course.

This just reads like a cop-out for not looking at pob long. it's not inherently zero info to look at someone who hasn't been suspected (because info can follow from that), and it's definitely not anti-town.

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: Doubting Thomas

I think I'm happier on this one today. Very informative too!

[Battle Mage]

if you really want this game to progress and have action we elim out of superb-guillo-chaos (personal preference is superb) and start afresh d2

you're nowhere near elimming any of that trio by my count, and I can't understand why you're so hung up on that pool.

[Battle Mage]

guillo-superb-chaos

if this was truly the "consensus", a new guy shouldn't be able to make any waves. The fact that the new guy can just means that its not consensus.

-norbear

very true Noraa. what do you make of Thomas?

[Battle Mage]

I don't understand you complaining about how nothing is getting done by 34 pages and in how in your other games we are at d4 again, but when I ask you, you are saying that you were merely pressuring him and that you are not truly trying to get him killed.

I want you to take a stance on superb

On Superbowl, probably lean town, he feels similar to our last game together where we were masons.

On pob long, it entirely depends on how things go. If he gets some pressure, and capitulates, he can be elimmed. If he gets some pressure, and obvtowns, we can look elsewhere. That's just how mafia is played.

[Battle Mage]

don't forget town vig, that's the slot that was caught literally lying to my face. has 0 town equity. would prob shoot there, if i were a vig

you're trying to direct the vig now? feeling good about my vote (and for educational purposes, this is the sort of info that can be garnered by looking outside the consensus).

[Battle Mage]

and no, I'm not necessarily going to kill him, just put some pressure on.

this is not someone you were voting thinking you are considering 'every one'

it reads more like a scum slot subbed in who wants to stir the pot. and for you to come to the conclusion that i am scummy for apparently no reason is very noted too.

"very noted"? oh wow, nice added emphasis your emotiveness is one thing which gives you away, as well as the continual appeals to honesty (which is a good indicator for newb-scum).

[Battle Mage]

town vig

why is everyone so convinced there is a vig? did I miss something?

-nornor

ah, a townslip?

[Battle Mage]

and no, I'm not necessarily going to kill him, just put some pressure on.

this is not someone you were voting thinking you are considering 'every one'

it reads more like a scum slot subbed in who wants to stir the pot. and for you to come to the conclusion that i am scummy for apparently no reason is very noted too.

"very noted"? oh wow, nice added emphasis your emotiveness is one thing which gives you away, as well as the continual appeals to honesty (which is a good indicator for newb-scum).

but i am not a newb-scum, so that must make me town haha

we'll see i guess

[Battle Mage]

battle mage is probably the SK lol

nah I'm just town dude. Although maybe you're pre-occupied with the SK because you're mafia?

[Battle Mage]

If you really think guillotine and dt leading all our important discussion is not an issue gamma then Ima have to vote you

They’re not leading the discussion imo? What makes you say that? And why is that vote worthy/scummy/some combination of the two? And what do you think threatening me accomplishes in getting me to see things your way?

you think directing vig is scummy? then you must really think superbowl is scummy for threatening someone else for not voting another person, right? or you didn't read superb much?

you're comparing apples with oranges here buddy. superbowl suggesting he might vote for somebody is...a fundamental part of the game. Quite different to directing town PRs.

Also if you really want people to engage with you, I can't help but feel you'd be a bit more respectful. Especially to those with a lot more experience than yourself.

[Battle Mage]

battle mage is probably the SK lol

nah I'm just town dude. Although maybe you're pre-occupied with the SK because you're mafia?

clearly not occupied with SK if you read my posts (the first time i ever mentioned sk all game). I have a pretty solid and reasonable scum pool as my thoughts were very transparent. you tend to think 1 post means i've done X all game. if you don't do that, you might have a better game (regardless of alignment)

i'm glad i don't play wherever you normally play, if everyone just talks to each other like shit

[Battle Mage]

I'm done for now - we can flip Doubting Thomas and go from there.

[Battle Mage]

i'm the daddy

can we all just compromise on a VOTE: pob long

Pob Long will most likely get replaced and killing him will get us no info. So no, any yeet for the sake of yeeting someone is not good for me. Unless of course you can point out the benefit of his yeet.

he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town, and I have a low tolerance for letting quiet scum survive

too long

. Who knows what info we'll get - depends what happens next (i.e. who votes for him, who doesn't, who defends him and why). These open games are pretty swingy, so I think scum might have a lower propensity to bus (eliminate their team-mates) than normal.

it's day 1. lol

it's page 34, i've only just got here and i wanna see some action already

so ur scum hunting game is to kill anyone who's low activity first? i am guessing that you don't win much

pfft you bitch! my win rate is in my sig

and no, I'm not necessarily going to kill him, just put some pressure on.

don't demand respect from others when you are calling yourself daddy and me a bitch in the first post you address me. lol. so fucking rude it's kind of insane

the "daddy" thing is a site-wide joke/gimmick. I don't even know where it originated from, but then I have no idea why you'd take it personally.

I called you out as a bitch because you acted like one towards me by saying I was a bad player for no reason.

The bottom line is, be nice to people, and they'll be nice to you. If you act like a shit, people will treat you like one.

[Battle Mage]

fucking boomers are always living in their own world.

treat others like shit

, and when they get a slap back it's the other's fault? mmmmmm yes

lol oh boo hoo, I'll get the violins shall I? You spent most of this game shitting on everyone else (which you apparently call "content"), must be a shock to have someone call you out, eh?

[Battle Mage]

fucking boomers are always living in their own world.

treat others like shit

, and when they get a slap back it's the other's fault? mmmmmm yes

lol oh boo hoo, I'll get the violins shall I? You spent most of this game shitting on everyone else (which you apparently call "content"), must be a shock to have someone call you out, eh?

me guessing your win rate is low after joining in, barely reading, not adding any real content besides trying to 'turn the heat on' a low effort slot and when pressured by me just saying 'i was just pressuring them' is a pretty objectively bad start to the game. i didn't call you a shitty player initially, though, i said i am guessing you dont win much? which is my own GUESS as said. it does not warrant for you to call me a bitch, and you've definitely insulted me before i insulted you in response.

nice job trying to turn the tables and trying to make this game a personal thing more than mafia solving. i won't fall for that weak tactic, you scum.

I can only GUESS you rub a lot of people up the wrong way with your shitty attitude. and it's a bit rich saying I haven't done any solving, when I've given actual reasons to think you're scum, whereas you're just idly peddling "BM is scum, because BM is scum"

[Battle Mage]

nice misrepresentation of my posts. that confirms that you don't really read posts.

an accurate representation, although others will be the judge. But you keep hiding behind the fact I repped in, and must not have read your posts (Spoiler: I have). And trying to bury my capability as a player to undermine me because you can't handle the scrutiny. In fact, you couldn't handle scrutiny on anyone outside of the 3 biggest wagons, but I guess you were most afraid of people looking further afield due to self-preservation.

[Battle Mage]

it's funny that you say I couldn't handle the scrutiny on anynone outside of the 3 biggest wagons. lol. why would a scum!dt give any shit about towns trying to go wild and putting more people into the PoE? are you thinking clearly here?

it depends who was in the PoE. If scumDT was quite happy with the pool of 3, as you obviously were, scumDT would naturally be scared of his teammates or even himself being put into the PoE. I'm baffled I actually have to explain that.

[Battle Mage]

I said you haven't done any solving at the point of you trying to push pob long for low efforting. that is a true statement because you've only tried any solving on me and that was even after I joined the thread and engaged YOU. not because you were really solving me. and

it's very evident that you haven't read any of my posts

.

eh, if you're gonna continue to be ridiculous, there's no point in me engaging you. it's inconceivable you're town at this point.

[Battle Mage]

I haven’t seen DT put his ego out into the thread like a bronzed horse turd

WHAT??? Are we reading the same posts??

[Battle Mage]

maybe i am just pocketed by gamma for being the few that is actually defending me

you currently have 1 vote, and it's by a shit player called Battle Mage. Why the appeal to emotion here?

[Battle Mage]

maybe i am just pocketed by gamma for being the few that is actually defending me

you currently have 1 vote, and it's by a shit player called Battle Mage. Why the appeal to emotion here?

defending here is not just about being scum read.

your predecessor and superb has also largely pushed me, even calling out for a policy lim for superb which gamma also has disagreed with superb on

the others haven't really expressed any strong stance on me otherwise tohugh, meaning they haven't defended me.

still seems a bit over-defensive to me? you're saying 2 players think you're scum, 1 player thinks you're town. There's like 12 players in the game? there's only 1 actual vote on you.

and that's saying nothing of the fact your main townread is apparently Gamma because he thinks you're town, and your main scumread has been my slot since the beginning of the game, with no progression whatsoever.

[Battle Mage]

oh Noraa, I feel your pain. I alt-slipped so much in my last hydra game, my main account posted more than some of the actual players.

[Battle Mage]

someone else besides superb (cuz i am not talking to them anymore) point to any real scum reads that superb has had? he's called for me and guillo's policy lim and then now a 'compromise' on pob long? lol why is this town again?

Yeah superb actually sorted in my last game with him and did at least okay at it. That’s why I asked if I am overrating his skill earlier.

Kind of hard to sort when all our interactions are lead by the 3 stooges

who are the 3 stooges?

[Battle Mage]

BM I would hop on DT with you but it seems like they are widely townread there so I think wagoning is somewhat futile. Guillo is more likely to pick up steam from my perspective

you dont think it would be valuable nonetheless? he seems to be crumbling under the pressure of 1 vote already.

[Battle Mage]

superb's main reason for scum reading guillo is because they should be policy elimed haha don't listen to him

who is this directed to?

[Battle Mage]

BM I would hop on DT with you but it seems like they are widely townread there so I think wagoning is somewhat futile. Guillo is more likely to pick up steam from my perspective

you dont think it would be valuable nonetheless? he seems to be crumbling under the pressure of 1 vote already.

I already did this right after we got out of RVS, I thought it made DT look like an obviously good elim target but this town does not agree so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

there's literally no consensus on anybody though...

Noraa - you wanna join on Doubting wagon?

[Battle Mage]

there's literally no consensus on anybody though...

I mean we only have about 7 active players anyways, Nora and johnny both TR DT so i don't think we're getting them, I think it's just me and you willing to hop on atp

I think Guillotina could be on board?

damnit, this game needs some more life

[Battle Mage]

I thought your pob idea was a good one, but apparently we were vetoed by the big 3 on that too -.-

im getting flashbacks to 'the other hood'

[Battle Mage]

frankly, when the game has made a consensus elim pool like we did here with guillo-superb-chaos, it's very anti town for a newly subbed in person to try to add additional confusion and instead of elaborating on the consensus choice to try to start everything all over again and derail the thread by pushing low posting slots that people weren't talking about in 33/33 pages of the game thread like you've done. that's almost exclusively what scums do.

even if you were correct on pob long coasting, it gives us more information to elim out of the consensus so there are more associations to go off of. killing pob long after what we've all discussed is about others gives us 0 info even if pob long was indeed a low effort wolf. and there's no guarantee in that either, of course.

we are not yeeting pob long today

The entire boon of replacement players lies in them threshing the existing sands of the game for hidden gems of insight left undiscovered or dismissed. You would have them not seek such treasures?

and no, I'm not necessarily going to kill him, just put some pressure on.

this is not someone you were voting thinking you are considering 'every one'

it reads more like a scum slot subbed in who wants to stir the pot. and for you to come to the conclusion that i am scummy for apparently no reason is very noted too.

"very noted"? oh wow, nice added emphasis your emotiveness is one thing which gives you away, as well as the continual appeals to honesty (which is a good indicator for newb-scum).

Okay yeah I think I’ve had enough of the inflated confidence from you, on a universal level. Stop being a condescending loony and actually read things with genuine intent to solve, not trying to pick it apart like raw cotton.

Gamma, are you a hydra? I can't believe these 2 posts came from the same guy

I know you said earlier you didn't wanna say anything to Doubting Thomas as you didn't want to upset him or whatever, but that doesn't mean it's open season to be a jerk to me. Knock it off.

[Battle Mage]

man gamma and i share so many thoughts that i am almost scared i am hard pocketed.. but i wont tinfoil yet at least. if you are town, very good to play w you this game

i'd love to be scum in a game with you as town

[Battle Mage]

Not really easy to explain. My feeling is, may be loud, annoying, distracting, but that doesn't necessarily add up to scummy, even if his case is bad I don't think it's a rabbit hole scum goes down. I also agree with battle mage in that I don't expect scum to pursue a loud, high-impact approach to the game on day 1 in this setup.

I missed that battle mage said that. I mean what is your take on him then pushing that I am scum despite me being like almost an upgrade of guillo if he's town read him for that?

i feel the difference between you and Guillo is that he has more or less attacked everyone indiscriminately, whereas you have been very focussed on a couple of slots, and have eagerly taken opportunities to kiss up to others (others basically being Gamma).

[Battle Mage]

No comment from Taylor on pob long?

why would that be expected?

we were talking about him at the time

[Battle Mage]

On Superbowl, probably lean town, he feels similar to our last game together where we were masons.

He literally feels completely different to that game imo. What is similar to you??

*shrug* do you actually want an explanation, or will you just accuse me of having an inflated ego for disagreeing with you?

[Battle Mage]

Noraa - you wanna join on Doubting wagon?

Not particularly tho I do see some interesting things there.

-nobear

oops

[Battle Mage]

i tried to tell you

there's something quite endearing about you signing your posts even on your own account

[Battle Mage]

*sits down and meditates*
*Throws some more plates*
*sits down once more*
*breathe in*
*breathe out*
*screams*
>:(

it's just lucky you didn't decide to be anonymous this game

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[Battle Mage]

maybe ill just play this game with emojis from now on...

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BM I would hop on DT with you but it seems like they are widely townread there so I think wagoning is somewhat futile. Guillo is more likely to pick up steam from my perspective

this is not a townpost

chkflip is town.

VOTE: Chaos Triforce

They literally have hydra partners.

There's no planet where "tHeRe'S a ViG?" isn't a fake town slip.

except its not a townslip at all because its an open setup and town can see the info as easily as anyone. its just noraa proving she doesnt know how to read setup info

Noraa - you wanna join on Doubting wagon?

Not particularly tho I do see some interesting things there.

-nobear

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Seriously. This guy is the one who provokes me and backs off like limp dick johnny when I push back. And has the audacity to constantly mock me for actually trying. ok trash

don't fucking complain about the game state literally every single time you are in the thread when you were the ignition to begin with. policy lynch this shit

calling for policy lim on me is a narrative I don't think ever comes from a townie.

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Now accept my apology and let me work with you!

Also Noraa really does just have no ability to process setup info

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sorry if my words were rude. that was not my intent.

can you fucking read the posts I write?

plusjoyed is giving town reads on his friends like government is giving out food stamps to the poor, wtf?

Like sorry if y'all got offended for me saying your meta's day 1 RVS stage meta is shit, but that's my opinion I will stand by.

I am putting in a lot more effort to fit in than others

you gotta laugh

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I didn’t mean that in an insulting way
You saw what Noraa did in Haunted Village.

as i recall she won the game

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tell that to your bosom buddy Tom

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walk away from the game for a moment and come back when your state of mind is better. no need to show anger in the thread.

can you fucking read the posts I write?

stop shading the fuck out of me for no reason. it's getting on my nerves, okay?

don't fucking complain about the game state literally every single time you are in the thread when you were the ignition to begin with. policy lynch this shit

so FUCKING annoying for fuck's sake man

limp dick johnny

fucking boomers

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surprise surprise battle mage is laughing at my posts instead of scum reading it we have two scums already folks!

you have made the game not fun for lots of people, but I'm turning it back around!

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i'm crying with laughter right now at your ISO

[Battle Mage]

ok you can stop being useless

oh please, keep insulting me, more material!

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Also what’s the point of picking at my “inconsistencies” like you are? Are you scum trying to make you look bad, or just an asshole who doesn’t know how to shut his mouth?

i hope you're not talking to me? an "asshole who doesn't know how to shut his mouth"? a bit rude!

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to answer your question, yeah I'll treat all your abusive and mean shit as the joke it is

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Also what’s the point of picking at my “inconsistencies” like you are? Are you scum trying to make you look bad, or just an asshole who doesn’t know how to shut his mouth?

or maybe I'll just be a good boy for Gamma, and shut my asshole mouth

although i have to say

Spoiler:

pointing out inconsistencies is part of the game

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i am so cool and useful

wow, has nobody shown you how to use spoiler tags?

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im already looking forward to the next time DoubtingThomas says I haven't read a single one of his posts

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I said you haven't done any solving at the point of you trying to push pob long for low efforting. that is a true statement because you've only tried any solving on me and that was even after I joined the thread and engaged YOU. not because you were really solving me. and

it's very evident that you haven't read any of my posts

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eh, if you're gonna continue to be ridiculous, there's no point in me engaging you. it's inconceivable you're town at this point.

BM I would hop on DT with you but it seems like they are widely townread there so I think wagoning is somewhat futile. Guillo is more likely to pick up steam from my perspective

you dont think it would be valuable nonetheless? he seems to be crumbling under the pressure of 1 vote already.

I already did this right after we got out of RVS, I thought it made DT look like an obviously good elim target but this town does not agree so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

there's literally no consensus on anybody though...

Noraa - you wanna join on Doubting wagon?

inconsistency?

i'm not sure you get much cred for picking 2 random unrelated posts and calling an inconsistency

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I quoted more posts but it says no more than 30 smiley faces

I'll have to up my game then, at least until you work out how to use spoiler tags to reduce the size of your posts

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you said i am town at this point and then quickly tried to beg for others to vote for me soon after

lol please look up "inconceivable" in the dictionary if you're being serious here

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all these obnoxious smiley faces don't make you look cool tho

it's for the greater good if it stops you spamming the thread with giant un-spoilered posts

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and useless scraping of posts just to laugh how mature and useful

I had lots of fun laughing at the highlights of your behaviour yes. I have no idea if the above is meant to be sarcasm though?

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you said i am town at this point and then quickly tried to beg for others to vote for me soon after

lol please look up "inconceivable" in the dictionary if you're being serious here

how does that matter... lol? you said i am too inconceivable so that i have to be town?

In 10 pages time, I'm gonna quote this, along with the posts which you bitched at people for not reading/interpretting your posts properly

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and useless scraping of posts just to laugh how mature and useful

I had lots of fun laughing at the highlights of your behaviour yes. I have no idea if the above is meant to be sarcasm though?

oh if you have no idea then maybe you should take english 101? sorry. it was sarcasm!

lol you dont need to apologise - i read earlier you aren't a native english speaker so I'm cutting you some slack!

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I said you haven't done any solving at the point of you trying to push pob long for low efforting. that is a true statement because you've only tried any solving on me and that was even after I joined the thread and engaged YOU. not because you were really solving me. and

it's very evident that you haven't read any of my posts

.

eh, if you're gonna continue to be ridiculous, there's no point in me engaging you. it's inconceivable you're town at this point.

sorry but no matter how you look at this you are saying i am too inconceivable to the point that i am town. maybe you were trying to say it's inconceivable to say you're town at this point, but that's not on me. you wrote it in this manner sorry if english isn't your first language not trying to attack your linguistic skill but it reads that way. 'you are too wolfy that you are town at this point'

lol that's weak and dont worry, I don't take it as an indictment on my linguistic skill, I'm just slightly amused you think this is your best chance of getting me mis-elimmed.

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Spoiler:

who tf is tom?

-weirdedoutnornor

why are your top 3 scum picks not including pob long?

do you think Chaos should be thinking pob long is scum? they aren't voting there?

you claimed that a 3 person scum team but wants a low poster dead because you want 'something to happen'? in d1? i don't really buy this

that was just my hero solve for the end-game cred. I'm less convinced on Gamma now, but I still think you're pretty scummy.

What's not to buy? Dude, in my last Open game we had literally completed 4 gamedays by this stage.

why don't you want to vote, superb battle mage

thanks for the compliment i guess, i'll let you off the earlier diss

frankly

, when the game has made a consensus elim pool like we did here with guillo-superb-chaos, it's very anti town for a newly subbed in person to try to add additional confusion and instead of elaborating on the consensus choice to try to start everything all over again and derail the thread by pushing low posting slots that people weren't talking about in 33/33 pages of the game thread like you've done.

LOL no dude, you're way off here. It's

pro-town

to actually look at everybody, rather than just going with the consensus by default. Additionally, we have like a week until deadline, so there's plenty of time to get more info if you want and yet you're getting precious about a couple of 2/3 person wagons. It's not "starting everything all over again", it's just adding something new to the conversation. Although from your passionate statement above, it sounds like you're awfully worried about moving away from that existing consensus?

even if you were correct on pob long coasting, it gives us more information to elim out of the consensus so there are more associations to go off of. killing pob long after what we've all discussed is about others gives us 0 info even if pob long was indeed a low effort wolf. and there's no guarantee in that either, of course.

This just reads like a cop-out for not looking at pob long. it's not inherently zero info to look at someone who hasn't been suspected (because info can follow from that), and it's definitely not anti-town.

VOTE: Doubting Thomas

I think I'm happier on this one today. Very informative too!

so i am assuming this progression just means you think i was trying to protect scum!pob long or something? what a stretch of a progression if you can explain better so i can see if your thought progression actually makes sense i will appreciate it

haha well i actually answered that question earlier in the game i think - i guess you just forgot/didn't read?

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I said you haven't done any solving at the point of you trying to push pob long for low efforting. that is a true statement because you've only tried any solving on me and that was even after I joined the thread and engaged YOU. not because you were really solving me. and

it's very evident that you haven't read any of my posts

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eh, if you're gonna continue to be ridiculous, there's no point in me engaging you. it's inconceivable you're town at this point.

sorry but no matter how you look at this you are saying i am too inconceivable to the point that i am town. maybe you were trying to say it's inconceivable to say you're town at this point, but that's not on me. you wrote it in this manner sorry if english isn't your first language not trying to attack your linguistic skill but it reads that way. 'you are too wolfy that you are town at this point'

Sorry Thomas, but i understood it as “there is no way you are town”, ne never townread you there.

do you think Thomas is trying to solve my slot in good faith?

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Sorry Thomas, but i understood it as “there is no way you are town”, ne never townread you there.

ah ok then sorry. but also he yet continues to misrepresent my stances, as that was one of many other reasons i've already been scum reading him for it's sad people try to pretend they've read my posts when it's clear the thoughts they can have about my slot shouldn't be real if they've actually read my posts..

I think your strategy in this game has been pretty one-dimensional. Pick a target, tunnel them for 40 pages to get the consistency cred, and be prepared to jump on any other good wagons which emerge, whilst ultimately keeping yourself/buddies out of the firing line. What it lacks, is any evidence of trying to solve. All you've done is tunnel my slot with increasing fervor before I even joined the game, and buddied up to anyone who townreads you. It's newb-scum 101. Whilst protesting you're baffled at being scumread by anyone, and arguing anyone who doesn't townread you isn't reading your posts, you've simultaneously cried about nobody defending you whilst under minimal pressure.

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Spoiler:

Oh hi bm

hi Johnny

are you scum?

if not, who is scum?

did i claim yet?

if so, what?

PLEASE because right now the townblock is weird gamma and 2 newbies

great, who are the newbies? and who are we elimming?

I sort of like the progression in Catboi's ISO, as it has the vibe of genuine solving. But it's also pretty cagey and not throwing a lot of shade.

Catboi - who are your top scumreads today?

can we all just compromise on a VOTE: pob long

who tf is tom?

-weirdedoutnornor

why are your top 3 scum picks not including pob long?

do you think Chaos should be thinking pob long is scum? they aren't voting there?

guillo-superb-chaos

if this was truly the "consensus", a new guy shouldn't be able to make any waves. The fact that the new guy can just means that its not consensus.

-norbear

very true Noraa. what do you make of Thomas?

yea he's never talked to these people about any of these after asking bunch of questions earlier on before he engaged with me on full force.

definitely feels like asking questions for the sake of asking

looking down that list, most of those questions were answered, and didn't require a response back from me. The ones which weren't, weren't really important. Again, this is a real weak attempt to retrospectively fashion a case on me, to try and back up your tunnel from the beginning.

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if you can succinctly explain why you scum read me from when you were voting pob long instead of making accusations that my strategy this game was scum 101, it would make me more likely believe that your push on me is genuine, tbh. a lot of your 'scum reads' on me have been in reaction to what i've done to you. like 'oh you are emotive, you said 'very noted' ' it doesn't feel real. can you please explain your reads in details intead of keep saying i am newb scum? like

Why would I care what your believe? You're either just scum, or town who has no inclination towards solving my slot. I think newb-town you would be...well, as I think you described it earlier, more enthusiastic and zealous and trying to read people. No evidence of that here.

and to pick just one thing above, I believe I was scumreading you before you'd said anything to me?

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like you were literally scraping posts where i was cussing and started laughing. that doesn't feel genuine scum read? do you really believe that all of the things you've done is in good faith?

that was nothing to do with my read on your alignment - i just felt like calling out some of your comments, and i'm still laughing now just thinking about it

i'll respond to other stuff later, if Gamma gives me permission.

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nah im going to bed

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i don't see a transparency in your thought. and no, i scum read you before you joined. i was scum reading your slot from way before you joined the game

that's different to me responding to things you've done to ME though - you're moving the goalposts here.

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i'll respond to other stuff later, if Gamma gives me permission.

i don't understand this statement, but i note that you aren't trying to engage me in live, even though i requested in a civil manner. i guess i gotta go for the night bye

Gamma wanted me to stop talking, presumably so you can both enjoy more of a love-in. It's 3am, I'm fucking shattered.

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everything seems to be going fine here

V/LA for 1-2 days

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well played chkflip, did a great job! I followed the mafia PT after my death - thanks for keeping it entertaining!

pedit: Gamma, I didn't get any msg from you via the Mod. Probably for the best, as I expect your suggestion would have been against the rules, or at least poor ettiquette. I do think elimming obv-town here because of a personal misgiving was bad vig-play, but I greatly enjoyed the fact you used my elim to townblock Chkflip as the one player who couldn't possibly be my partner

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lol it was obvious you shot me for personal reasons as soon as you claimed Vig. I think the town consensus was that I was obvtown, and generally vigs who go rogue tend to fare pretty badly.

I think if you tried to coax the Mod into sending me a shitty message after I died for no reason, that's about as petty as it gets.

And on that happy note - I'm out. Thanks for Mod for hosting and Chkflip for being a great teammate!

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[Deadthread was a fun read!

Y'all are such trolls, especially BM XD

Love it!