CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah shit, here we go again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you suggesting i’d be worried about you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hopefully i die early and won’t be too much of an part in the upcoming madness.
I’ll also try to be more chill this game since i tend to easily lose my temper.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: T3
Hey buddy

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hopefully i die early and won’t be too much of an part in the upcoming madness.
I’ll also try to be more chill this game since i tend to easily lose my temper.

Did u mean to post this in ur scum thread

I knew posting my honest thoughts was a bad idea…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just make a blind vote and be boring Norwee, when will you ever learn…

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll vote whoever LLD does (even if it's me).

Why are you doing that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Greetings. Greeting!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dwlee seems to be doing a good impression of seeming happy to have rolled town.

Impression or genuine?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Btw just an early warning.
I will be V/LA in all of my games from approximately the 7th to 10th of January.
While i may still be online between that time, it will be using an very bad internet connection, so i might either catch up very slow or not have the time to respond to anything until i get back from where i'm travelling.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This isn't a general motivation scumread Ceph.

It's a YOU read. I'm sorry if that feels shitty but I drew green and I'm kind of obligated to drink em if I got em

i mean it sucks that i'm not allowed to entertain myself according to you, yes

i don't think i would make any risky posts as scum early in this game knowing that you are playing, and i am not so dense as to think that post wouldn't draw attention to me

What?
So you make risky posts as town but not scum. Is what you’re saying?
Why make risky posts at all if you identify them as such?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not that i thought your post was risky in the first place, but the fact that you seem to think so is weird.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who killed LLD and replaced her with generic good player variation #5

Pfftthahaha

[NorwegianboyEE]

bell is town, but i don't expect any points for that brain blast

Why is he town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

This isn't a general motivation scumread Ceph.

It's a YOU read. I'm sorry if that feels shitty but I drew green and I'm kind of obligated to drink em if I got em

i mean it sucks that i'm not allowed to entertain myself according to you, yes

i don't think i would make any risky posts as scum early in this game knowing that you are playing, and i am not so dense as to think that post wouldn't draw attention to me

What?
So you make risky posts as town but not scum. Is what you’re saying?
Why make risky posts at all if you identify them as such?

i don't care if people notice me this game because i'm town

This post is good, but not for the reasons you'd think at first glance.

What does that mean, i don't speak galaxy brain.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I do find Bell's tone enjoyable, but by my knowledge of Bell they are pretty good at seeming relaxed and natural as scum so i'm not gonna townread unless i have an good reason to.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This isn't a general motivation scumread Ceph.

It's a YOU read. I'm sorry if that feels shitty but I drew green and I'm kind of obligated to drink em if I got em

i mean it sucks that i'm not allowed to entertain myself according to you, yes

i don't think i would make any risky posts as scum early in this game knowing that you are playing, and i am not so dense as to think that post wouldn't draw attention to me

What?
So you make risky posts as town but not scum. Is what you’re saying?
Why make risky posts at all if you identify them as such?

i don't care if people notice me this game because i'm town

This post is good, but not for the reasons you'd think at first glance.

What does that mean, i don't speak galaxy brain.

It's a post I doubt a wolf makes in the current conversation given it's a rather "bad" post on paper. It seems more likely something a villager said in the spur of the moment. Do you disagree?

No, that sounds pretty agreeable.

[NorwegianboyEE]

For the time being.
VOTE: Ircher

[NorwegianboyEE]

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

æøå

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't see why any of the things you've said are scum indicative Greeting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ircher (5) - Save the Dragons, NorwegianboyEE, MegAzumarill, Galron, Lady Lambdadelta
Cephrir (2) - MUSHSHAGANA, Bell
Bell (2) - Cephrir, Arcade Pals
Mastina (2) - Tet, The Three Bears
MUSHSHAGANA (2) - Ircher, Greeting
The Three Bears (1) - Princess Elodie
Greeting (1) - Roden
Roden (1) - Dwlee99

Not voting (5) - Malakittens, Mastina, tictac, Toogeloo, T3

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like have you ever played with Mush before?

I haven't, no.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The fact that i've been somewhat active but nobody has reads on me is weird.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Greeting’s perspective bothers me. It seems black and white.

Elaborate?

@

Bell

?

You're new, which may or may not explain your total focus on one person. Anyway, you have scum tells. You apply scum tells to Mush's posts. ????
profit.
Is how it feels to me.

I have liked recent postings from both Bell and Ceph a lot better so i don't doubt there as much anymore.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The fact that i've been somewhat active but nobody has reads on me is weird.

I don't have a grand scheme involving you yet. At least not to my knowledge. When you're a baby cub I need to protect, you'll know.

~Mama

Who is talking here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok it's Titus.
I think it would be easier if y'all three just used your names instead of aliases.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cephrir

I don't know the theme of Control, honestly there wasn't much of an explanation of the setup in the Queue thread. What I saw was a large theme game and I just went /in.

And i just got a pm from the host telling me to join this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Enjoying it so far though.
Thanks cakezzz

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mush’s sass is too strong to be scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Should i laugh or cry.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does LLD ever make jokes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What’s going on

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cakez i actually kinda hate you right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel dizzy and lightheaded.
I’m going to take a break.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Noraa is probably town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee

Do i know you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wish i knew how your head works STD.

[NorwegianboyEE]

this is like the first time ever i tr norwee and everyone's sus on him smh

he lacks energy tbh

Lacks energy? I did point out i wanted to be chill in this game. And there are more reasons for that.
Of course, whether i can keep up on that depends on my composure.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not mad, per se. Just confused and don't see anything AI.

Eh? Noraa's reaction should tell you somethign.

Agree that my fakeviging is not AI, but noraa has to give you something...

I feel like scum Noraa lives and breathes for those kinds of moments. Whatever she can think of that's clever to get out of a scum read, she'll do. It's where most of her brain is when she's scum.

Yes, but she seemed genuinely angry. I think scum!Noraa would probably overreact, but in a different way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, but point is. If Noraa was scum they would probably twist their emotions in a certain manipulative way.
And here it’s more like the: "i can’t believe you’ve done this" guy that just looks utterly betrayed.
I could just be totally wrong here, but that’s honestly what i feel.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not mad, per se. Just confused and don't see anything AI.

Eh? Noraa's reaction should tell you somethign.

Agree that my fakeviging is not AI, but noraa has to give you something...

I feel like scum Noraa lives and breathes for those kinds of moments. Whatever she can think of that's clever to get out of a scum read, she'll do. It's where most of her brain is when she's scum.

Sorry no. We all know I hate reaction tests as scum. Now isn't the time to lie about that.

-baby bear

Where did I say you didn't hate them? Also, I didn't say that. But also, I didn't know that. But also it fits into your desire to town slip out of suspicion so.

Why you being such an contrarian about this. :/

[NorwegianboyEE]

this is like the first time ever i tr norwee and everyone's sus on him smh

Last time this happened weren't you opposing scum factions??


Also don't burn the crumbs -.-;

-Pinkie Bear

No they called my posts trash and voted me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

every time norwee reads me correctly, i get weirded out. heck every time anyone reads me right, my whole reads list just breaks.

-baby bear

Have i read you correctly as town before? Or are you saying it weirded you out when i identified you as scum before?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Some of my deepest reads are usually hard to convey because they rely so heavily on Norwee logic that just doesn’t translate well when i try to type it out as a post in an mafia game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Honestly i feel pretty sure the Three Bear Hydra is town now, i don’t wanna see an wagon on them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No but like i’d make these emotional connections and deep mind analyzises of Noraa as a person, how they work, how they think. But all that comes out as text is: *Fart noise*
And then nobody listens.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Has anyone ever made an Tet offensive joke based on your username?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh wow, never mind that Bell read.
Their shading of Ircher wagon is yucky.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm just going to go to bed. I eagerly await waking up to disappointment

What i do every day.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh wow, that might have been a bit uncharacteristically dark.

Anyway hi Mastina. I always enjoy games with you in.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you plan on just sheeping LLD all game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Entering radio silence.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so the net is awful, but not completely useless. So ahould still be able post ish.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina is town this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If not i will be shocked.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Three Bears, Mastina and Mush is my block of trusted individuals ATM.
More applications are welcome.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’d locktown LLD too for that fake dayvig thing, but then they were like: "i’d do this as scum too" which was a bit uhhhhh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

God my connection died for 20 minutes.
Actually i misremembered LLD. You said: "i agree my fake dayvig wasn’t AI".

[NorwegianboyEE]

My read on Mush has nothing to do with meta.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would i need to step up my game. I think i’m doing just fine. I’ve got some decent reads so far that i don’t think i will ever doubt.

[NorwegianboyEE]

skim skim skim but like t3 is being so towny. it cant be real right? as for roden, given our history, im not gonna even attempt to read him. pretty sure it'll end up a SR nine times out of ten regardless of his alignment. norwee looking scummier by the second. idk reads just feel very very tmi-y. it just feels really informed but idk why. idk about massy. ok bai o/

oh wait. last thing, i find massy really really towny. idk what that means but i wanna believe it.

-baby bear

You don’t know the reasoning behind most of my reads, so why would that make you think i’m informed?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i’m still confused about who i’m talking too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve already explained Noraa read. And if Noraa is town i don’t have to worry about Titus or Flea, whom are both slots i’m historically bad at reading anyway.
Mush’s tone reads reads very much like they are trying to solve, but also like they don’t care or give a F what other people think. That combination is very typically town and i thus hughly doubt that is how they would play as scum by default. Mastina just has that town Mastina entrance, and i’d very much like people to explain why they think Mastina is being scummy here. Because they sound fucking DRUNK.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina just has that attpical solving style, kinda like me. That they townread STD for saying fourth is probably the towniest thing they said, though people make fun of it here. That’s how people in mafia are. They want to scumread what they don’t understand. Such simpletons.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Atypical*

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m confident on my spot in this wagon. I’d expect Ircher to have towntold by this point. But i don’t get any good vibes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And if Noraa is town

ouchie this backtracking is going a little tooooo fast

The fuck? I’m not backtracking.
I’m expressing that my reads are never 100%. And i literally said the same thing when i first said i thought you were town. (That i could be wrong)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Noraa you’d be a lot better at this game if you’d stop talking about me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwe,
Sweet Norwe.
Stop focusing on all the suspicion and instead speak with me.
I suspect you because you don't really seem to be suspecting anyone else.
Let's talk about that.
Who do you suspect?

I’m voting Ircher because i don’t townread them. I don’t have super strong scumreads. Just scumleans on some slots.
Besides, it’s hard for me to go ballistic when i’m typing on a phone and my connection dies every 10 minutes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you dislike the wagpn because you townread Ircher or because it’s the first wagon in the game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

like honestly, if everyone TRed ircher, i'd be the one tunneling him but thats not happening so im defending because irchers probs just town if everyone is tunneling him. this logic is normally right i think.

No. It’s dumb.

[NorwegianboyEE]

White knighting a slot is fine if you have a good reason too, but you don’t.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There are 6 people voting Ircher based on 21 fucking players. And you’re trying to frame it as if Ircher is either just town being tunneled again. (When i’ve never tunneled Ircher in any prior games because i usually townread them by that point) or do you think scum are pushing the wagon? Ok, how many? 4 out of 6? Isn’t it more strange that this wagon has so little support and counterwagons pop up sll the time? Ircher has never been any serious threat and this wagon hasn’t even been that big. And yet you’re trying to kill it when you have no fucking idea what it is you are talking about. Just stop saying stupid things or i might have to revert my townread just to make sure your stupid ass doesn’t get anymore influence in this game if you’re going to go on like this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Noraa, i’m allowed to thinn you are town, but also really hopelessly bad and anti-town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That doesn’t equate that i belief you are of the mafia allignment.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I know, shocking.
The concept is unfathomable.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok Noraa, you can think what you want. I did promise myself i would be more chill ib this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh and Ceph still comes out as townie from their posts recently.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve felt a bit distant to certain parts of the game. (Namely the Cephrir/Roden fight) but to comment i’m null on Roden still, but have felt like Ceph has made numerous posts that towntold.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, but point is. If Noraa was scum they would probably twist their emotions in a certain manipulative way.
And here it’s more like the: "i can’t believe you’ve done this" guy that just looks utterly betrayed.
I could just be totally wrong here, but that’s honestly what i feel.

To those that say i backtracked my read on Noraa by expressing slught doubts.
Read the last part of this post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah T3 is looking pretty bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3, that is called cherrypicking games. You can see a lot of games where i act pissy towards those that scumread me as town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah T3 is looking pretty bad.

also a little bit of opportunism

Kinda like how i’ve felt it was a bit opportunistic that you posted that i was scum after Tet said it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3, that is called cherrypicking games. You can see a lot of games where i act pissy towards those that scumread me as town.

link?

Any game i’ve ever been in.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will give T3 one thing.
I think he’s tried to pocket me in every single game where he is scum, and not doing that here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

An hydras opinion of the allignment of their own hydra partner is useful indeed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*ahem*

@Norwe, what are your other scum reads. I kind of don't want to pressure you because you feel all sensitive. But I just want a general idea of your trejectory because yeah.
You feel kinda off.

I’m going to need some details on

what

exactly you’re asking for.
Because as far as i know, i’ve bern perfectly transparent with everything i’ve done.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And if somethings been unclear, anyone could just ask.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t have a lot of scumreads tbh. That’s part of the reason why i’m feeling this wagon on Ircher is good. Because it gives allignment indicative info. And bonus points for me not townreading Ircher in the first place.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Knowing Irchers allignment would be very helpful in that. And i’m seeing very meek opinions, which makes them feel like scum.
Either they’re just not townie at all. (Which i don’t find very likely for Ircher) or scum is in that awkward position where they don’t want to openly townread an scummy partner, but wants to try to mislead us away too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Part of the problem here is also that a lot of slots i’d want to get a better read on, such as Ttog, Princess Delonie, Dwlee, etc etc are lowposting or not here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s telling when i’m one of the largest posters here and i’m on my phone in a freaking hut in the middle of nowhere, chasing after an dying phone signal.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Knowing Irchers allignment would be very helpful in that. And i’m seeing very meek opinions, which makes them feel like scum.
Either they’re just not townie at all. (Which i don’t find very likely for Ircher) or scum is in that awkward position where they don’t want to openly townread an scummy partner, but wants to try to mislead us away too.

Like....I get this.

But how does it get you a clear picture of what scum are doing if Ircher flips town?

You don’t think townflips are informative?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Probably those that kick back and relax, or support the wagon without much elaboration or enthusiasm.
I’d still townlock Mush from an townflip.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t solve pre-flip though. I just try to make an good elimination happen, so i can read back on the game using the info.
If you agree or disagree with the wagon i’m all ears.
This is the optimal way to play day 1 unless there is an obvscum player.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This isn’t to say i’m locked in on Ircher. I just don’t see any reason to switch. They have not felt townie to me and it’s an wagon with decent amount of support, so it won’t be an waste of time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like do i really need to explain mafia 101 to you guys.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The Roden push, i think it’s good. Counterwagons are always informative, but i’m personally not as convinced that’d flip scum as i am Ircher.
So i’m still arguing the same thing because i don’t see any reason to switch and other wagons suggested so far haven’t been interesting to me.
If anyone disagrees eith me there, that is awesome. But make yourself heard, or i’m just gonna try to run the show. Because i don’t like messing around.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why?
Oh wait, you don’t have scumreads?

i dont really have any reads honestly? like i have random paranoia and other random shit but not really any like ... reads

[NorwegianboyEE]

What’s hilarious?

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee and maybe mush

Norwee is very much town, and my first strong town read, moreso than anyone else has earned.

Some people seem weirder than usual.

Who are weirder than usual?

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Megazumarill

This is actually an really good vote.
Mega is posting elsewhere much more than here. And what they did post is just asking what’s going on. Could easily see that be scum!Mega.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Tet
Why did you go from saying i’m scum to being town tho? What changed your read?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can’t take this.
The beetlejuice of popping in immediately when mentioned, but not making any signal of trying to keep up on the conversation. And deadbeat activity in this game compared to other sitewide activity. It adds up.
VOTE: Megazumarill

[NorwegianboyEE]

They can’t catch up to the game. But just so "happens" to show up immediately when their name is mentioned.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They were clearly paying attention to the game, but doesn’t have anything worthwhile to say? I don’t buy it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

O M G
Noraa is backtracking their read on me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re saying Tictac is scum because they don’t scumread you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s an very odd read.

[NorwegianboyEE]

someone who finds my play style very scummy isn't gonna suddenly not after 1 game. not how it works.

And what if they just used the information they gained from the previous game. And thus conclude that when you play in a way that they considered scum indicative previously, that it is NAI?
I’m null on Tictac atm, but i find your logic faulty.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyone else weirded out that LLD did an obvious fake vig on Noraa, Noraa took it to heart, and then LLD takes a break while Three Bears gets freebie town reads?

Food for thought.

Now I'm hungry. I could use a sandwich or something.

The mod closed the thread too. Do you think they would do that if it was an planned move from scum PT?
Sircakez intervention makes it more seem like the whole thing started out and was played off as a joke, not an serious strategy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Those games being 1 where he was town and 1 where he was scum? That’s basically one game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Those games being 1 where he was town and 1 where he was scum? That’s basically one game.

exactly. even more the point. the less people play with me, the more likely they will misread me. especially with a play style clash. they would not hear me out last game. that is the literal definition of a play style clash. people dont just learn after 1 game. thats literally not how it works.

Nah that’s BS. People are different, maybe dome need 10 games to root out the stupid, but not all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re making really confident but completely asinine points. It’s hard to take any of your reads seriously.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can we talk to Titus or Flea instead.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Finally Noraa goodposting.
It took 40 pages.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have noble taste buds.
Only the finest and most exquisite of posts will give me an sense of joy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sweet sweet laptop keyboard.
I'm back home baby.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don't forget the beetlejuice.

[NorwegianboyEE]

why are we voting meg out before a replacement? not saying I'm opposed, but I just don't get why

Why would replacement matter? They are still scummy.
Like if Thanos replaced in and posted an 100 page essay i'd probably still think their predecessor was being pretty scummy so it's an good lim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

REPPING OUT DOES NOT JUSTIFY YOUR CRIMES.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Read the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No. Because they behaved more like frozen scum than lost town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mega kept reiterating they couldn't catch up to the game due to it's length, they kept excusing themselves by that. But they were clearly reading posts as evidenced by their immediate response to me calling them out for coasting.
So why couldn't they make at least a little bit of worthwhile contributions to the recent postings at least? Or share at least a single read? I think they were just scared, they felt lost in the big scary town and couldn't keep up with the knowledge that they are a dirty dirty scum and any mistake in their posts would get them speedlimmed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They can’t catch up to the game. But just so "happens" to show up immediately when their name is mentioned.

Agreed but wasn't it you who said the Ircher wagon was a stalled scum wagon? If you feel this way, why change?

~Mama

Feel more confident with my new vote.
Otherwise i would have stayed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Voting a scumread -> Voting an scummier scumread.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Andante is town, it will be the first time i’ve seen it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would like to see more votes.
On anyone really. Just to get this game more interesting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sometimes it feels like i’m seeing the same arguments over and over again, but nothing is happening.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Plz vote count. I'm too lazy to count myself today arghhh

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Ircher becomes top wagon again, i will vote there just to push it through. Because i want an lim soon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm bored.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like Mega pretty much scum claimed, but since there doesn't appear to be more interest the game feels like it's in an deadlock.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is this the way it ends...

[NorwegianboyEE]

I definitely remember you Grendel.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It would explain Noraas awkward push on me that they pretended wasn’t actually an push later.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cus that was such an eyebrow raising moment for me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mush you’re the most entertaining player here for me, and i cannot thank you enough for that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Fedora Wielder, how splendiferous it is to see you again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ircher at game start: super boring quote stripes
ircher under pressure looking like a likely lim: still super boring quote stripes

Idk if i should find it townie or scummy the lack of fucks given.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Roden feels town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Val89
Pretty meh so far. Somehow they tanked the slot even more for me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m honestly pretty weirded out by both T3 and Dwlee lurking out and replacing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Grendel can you explain your scumread of me in more detail.
I feel like your reads are genuine, but you may be missing the mark on me due to some other NAI reasons. So please elaborate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i think i slipped up too with noraa pronouns, i'm sorry

^

uhhh what is happening on this page?? If I'm reading this right and Mush is bullying the best faerie bear, HOW DARE YOU.

Mush v Flea is to me I'm not sure if it's hilarious or depressing as it's two plural people fighting each other when I'm pretty damn sure both are town now.

I think these early read lists of yours arent things you normally would elaborate on, but I'd really appreciate follow-up on Noree, and a range of confidence in that tr.

I have like a 66% ability to soulread Norwee.

As in, 2/3rds of the time, I can soulread Norwee--and even in the one third where I can't soulread Norwee, I can't get a read on Norwee.

So when I say Norwee is town here, without a doubt? It's the soulread in effect.

Why can I soulread Norwee? Fucked if I know, I legit have no clue why Norwee's the one player onsite that I have the soulread ability of in 2021-2022. But I can, and this is Norwee as town.

With very very high confidence.

I'll do my best to explain it when it's not 4 am and I have work the next day.

This will probably look like pocketing, but i want to say it regardless.
I do believe this as Mastina caught me on my first posts as lockscum in an previous game. Which was honestly pretty upsetting for me personally. But yeah, Mastina is very town here, and their read is definitely correct.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I really don't have much by way of reads right now.

Ircher -- lean town
MUSHSHAGANA -- town
Lady Lambdadelta -- town
Bell -- town
Cephrir -- town
Andante Dwlee99 -- town
NorwegianboyEE -- null
The Three Bears (Titus, Flea the Magician, Noraa) -- null
Galron
Roden -- lean scum
Malakittens -- null
Mastina --town
Arcade Pals (Dunnstral, MariaR) -- scum
TheWayItEnds Princess Elodie -- null
Tet -- town
Grendel MegAzumarill -- scum
tictac -- scum
Toogeloo -- null
Val89 T3 -- null
Save The Dragons -- town
Greeting -town

That was a 15-second reads list, and I guess I have more than what I thought. Some of the towns and scums are stronger than others. The Three Bears is the most puzzling slot.

Pet peeve, but why can't you sort it from town to scum? This is so messy and hard to look at, ugh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Andante are you having fun this game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pet peeve, but why can't you sort it from town to scum? This is so messy and hard to look at, ugh.

Why didn't you complain about my list?

Because i didn't think of voicing an public complaint until now.
That important?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd rather we focus on this game but thanks...

[NorwegianboyEE]

why did you ask Andante if she was having fun

I thought it might help my read on them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm wary of it, but i think they are town. But i've never seen them as town in any game previously even though i've played with them like 4 or 5 times.
I think what they do in every scumgame is try to fake how they play as town. And that appears to be this happy go lucky mood thing. So i'm wondering if the fun they are having here is genuine or if they're trying to fake it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what posts specifically do you tr from arcade?

I was talking about you, not Arcade.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can't read Dunnstral for shit.
Why they scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

No.
Why would i?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's just a completely null slot for me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dunnstral never does anything. It's NAI.

[NorwegianboyEE]

MariaR idk if i played with. I'm guessing if they hydra they are both a bore.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I did not say i townread them, i said i literally cannot read them.

So why should i vote them? If you don't want to "deal with this" then i guess you never convinced anyone in your life to sheep you in a game of mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

if people wanna vote Norwee over Arcade, I don't think I'd be super opposed to that, but I'm letting this sit before I make any other decisions

Ah yes. "You did not sheep me so i will vote you".
Good job looking scummy again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It bothers me because they are asking me to sheep them for nothing, when they have no case.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok but like..

"Can you vote X because i said so?"

"No, i will not unless you elaborate"

"I'm not dealing with this, i will vote if you anyone agrees. *ragequits*"

Is this awful play Andante's townplay=?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gonna read Arcade though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Post 126 is weird, i will admit.
"I doubt Ceph will be exe'd due to their current posting and the wagon is only three votes." seems like a really weird thought?
They also ask a lot of questions, which could be weird for Dunn. But i have no idea which head of the hydra is talking most of the time.
442 vote could be opportunistic. But depends on Three Bears alignment. Probably not S+S interaction.
459 is lamist lite.

I think i could see a world where they are scum, but it's not an surefire read.
Interesting that they ignore Ircher wagon in favour of Roden. And aren't eager to join Mega/Val wagon. Potential Ircher/Val/Arcade team?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Val also pushing Roden first thing today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Ircher
Oh my god something is happening at last??

[NorwegianboyEE]

Arcade Pals last post was 1136, and I see no evidence they have been active in thread since. That was prior to both myself and MegA's replacement joining the game. "not eager to join Mega/Val wagon" seems an odd justification in that context, and I suspect this might well be coming from a pre-conceived notion of slots others might find scummy rather than a geninue attempt to team solve.

I only looked at their ISO so idk what the gamestate was like at that point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ircher (6) - MegAzumarill, Galron, Lady Lambdadelta, MUSHSHAGANA, mastina, Roden
MegAzumarill (5) - Tet, NorwegianboyEE, Ircher, Bell, Toogeloo

Oh Ircher was a wagon.
Idk what you mean then Val.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just reads like another lazy shade on me as continued from T3's school of thought.

[NorwegianboyEE]

see to me it's like, if you were trying to just rush any lim or whatever, like norwee said the other day, you should either have a solid idea of who you'd vote in, or like actually consider names others are throwing around, I'm pretty sure I've been pushing arcade all game for the exact same reason.. and this is the 2nd time I've had to quote stuff I already said as to why I sr someone.. so ehh I'm not certain this is norwee's towngame, feels off

All you've done is say "page 6 makes me scumread Arcade" and "Their Bell vote"
I asked for more. I took a look myself and already found a lot more. It's just that your ability to case and convince people to join you on your vote sucks.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But sure, blame it on other people.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I know from personal experiance that the justification T3 gave for voting Norwee was just plain wrong, but I can't help but feel he might have been in the right place with the read in general.

Like this is pretty bad. I feel like Val here is trying to sound reasonable with their posts but is also trying to mislim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

my norwee read is going down down down

Probably has to do with me getting annoyed and angry at the game again.
I'll take a break from thread.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The shitfights in my absence don’t make me feel better…

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m mot going to claim that every 1v1 slot in prolonged argument are TvT. But it’s tempting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did what?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nah Grendel i don’t regret at all pushing Mini. They were being real scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not sure how to process that Ircher is mostly posting about boring irrelevant stuff when they are the main wagon, i kinda wish they would respond to their on wagon and state if they think there’s scum there, or come up with an strong townread.
They haven’t really done that so that is why i am still comfortable voting the slot.
As for Andante they give off more and less similar vibes to when they are scum so i’m a bit on edge, but leaning town regardless because i liked some of their recent posts such as the one where they sheep an wagon and say they will read up on it later. Just seemed like some typical townie spirit in a way that’s hard for me to describe.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think in our last game too you scumread me, if i’m not wrong?
That means i don’t consider it scum indicative for you to be suspicious on me. It lies in some people’s nature that they cannot get a proper read on me the first games we share.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And it seems to be backed up by proper arguments too. So i’ll consider you town for now.
Do you have any other independent scumreads you’d push today?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh never mind, i checked the previous game and you didn’t scumread me.
Well now i look stupid huh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wish i had said that i promised myself i would play more relaxed pre-game. Because i did very much promise myself that i would do that, before i receive any role PM. Just so i don't need to prove it's not just my role pm saying that, but it was an genuine promise i made myself before starting this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your face is not natural.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know i was going to say exactly the same thing Grendel.
"Ok help buss my buddy"
Lol

[NorwegianboyEE]

But i leaned town on you so i was like nah no need to say it

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ceph do you think Ircher would have been limmed right now if they were either scum/town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

No day 1 should be this long imo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Mastina
I see you are online. Do you still agree with Ircher wagon? I want to flip this to death so we can move on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dunnstral where you the one that was posting all the time as hydra?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mush your posts aren't really helping to push Ircher. No offense.
It's just like noise at this point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

When you're being wishy washy and saying you'd also offer my head on a platter it makes you sound not confident with your main push.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I take no responsibility for mixing up when there’s no signing of the posts. >_>

[NorwegianboyEE]

And i’m only saying you should argue better.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And regarding Ircher all i see is "This is NAI. The slot is NAI"
VOTE ON A WAGON TO MAKE IT E-1 IT’S DAY ONE. It doesn’t have to be an rainbow invite from the top scumhunters of MS that you are safely placing your vote on an certified scumflip wagon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

IS IRCHER TOWN? NO?
VOTE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

THIS IS AN LARGE GAME.
11 TO ELIM.

HALF THE PLAYERS AREN’T DOING SHIT.

VOTE

[NorwegianboyEE]

Thank you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who posted the most? You or Maria?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok.
The posting from Arcade makes perfect sense for an Dunnstral ISO.
I think they are likely just town. Making votes on them an suspect counterwagon imo. I think flipping Ircher is the best choice.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the main gripes i had with the slot is an problem plagueing me most of this game.
Not knowing who’s even posting…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Reading Mastina’s words on the game this page majes me feel like i should watch an longplay on youtube, because it sounds pretty wicked.