Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[Firebringer]

Interest does matter, you’re far from the only scum, and I want to save DDS, so I can’t just sit here in a corner and ignore everyone else

Only half of my reason for my meuh tr is mech, the other half is mmr associatives. My role result also does matter, because it’s one of the few nuggets of info I have that’s useful to us. Someone tried to target her with a negative effect or kill during Noon

It doesn’t really feel like you’re arguing in good faith here

finally a decent point. I don't really think MMR/Mastina/Meuh makes sense either.

Not sure how that makes Meuh town.

[Firebringer]

i have to get back to work stuff. I will respond to ur points when i get back.
as far as goal i think ur just looking to end the game day with whoever can be limmed as ur done with the day is is majority of people. Its NAI in my eyes.

[Firebringer]

Like I’m sorry but who in their right mind thinks Dingle, Ydrass AND PPF are all towns.

Firebringer does. I don’t think Town does. I think Solar Does.

where r u getting i said ppf is townie.

[Firebringer]

How the fuck are dingle and ydrasse scum.
I swear.

Going back to work. This game is just amazin.

[Firebringer]

Like I’m sorry but who in their right mind thinks Dingle, Ydrass AND PPF are all towns.

Firebringer does. I don’t think Town does. I think Solar Does.

where r u getting i said ppf is townie.

“All wagons are bad”

Lmao, did you not?

PPF isn't a wagon.

[Firebringer]

And no im not voting PPF. I already made my stance that voting to elim PPF will only lead to apathy in the long run. Which we already hit that point but trust me, it can get worse.

[Firebringer]

I do find it all annoying, a push against me and nothing significant to respond to, but I don't care for seeking out the reasons for the votes of people who are either only vaguely connected to the game (Ydrasse, Enchant) or tunneled on me (you). It's not my responsibility to make you speak up.

Okay whats ur read on me and why.

[Firebringer]

how does that make u feel

[Firebringer]

I can't wait to prove Junko wrong.

[Firebringer]

we flipped scum meuh and junko just says im double confirmed scum.

[Firebringer]

we flipped scum meuh and junko just says im double confirmed scum.

scum pt ?!?!?!?

Spoiler:

ohh shit thanks for catching my slip
@mod pls correct 6825, wrong thread.

[Firebringer]

why are u questioning me on my own joke

[Firebringer]

No Firebringer I told you to stop joking in OUR scum pt

but radical rat said it was cool

[Firebringer]

3 professotic (Hydra of Professordrapion and tictac)

this makes so much more sense now.

[Firebringer]

So titus gets kingsguard and tracker. Works for me.

We can vote unowen. I don't think there is anything else i think we need to really do today.
GL can sheep me now.

VOTE: Unowen

[Firebringer]

Wrong thread, ignore above post

[Firebringer]

Cat Scratch Fever
Meuh
Toogeloo
Enchant
Ydrasse
Professotic
Past Present Future
Firebringer
T-Bone
Radical Rat
Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

take this with a grain of salt becuase this lists changes drasticaly with a few "what ifs"

this is the most I can do for a towniest to scumiest list

offended im not at the bottom

[Firebringer]

I do find it all annoying, a push against me and nothing significant to respond to, but I don't care for seeking out the reasons for the votes of people who are either only vaguely connected to the game (Ydrasse, Enchant) or tunneled on me (you). It's not my responsibility to make you speak up.

Okay whats ur read on me and why.

I think you're scum here. There's a kind of general weariness about limming you and a lack of momentum towards it that feels unwarraned considering most don't seem to townread you. Makes me feel like that general way you're being treated is because you have some buddies out there who are avoiding your existence to keep living for longer. Especially since multiball makes bussing less good, it feels off. That combined with the push on me that doesn't feel like it was made in good faith (though I've already said enough on that) and just general bad vibes.
I think the whole lack of momentum thing makes you more likely to be solar scum here (they likely have more numbers and are less crumbled considering MMR being gone), though I also think I had some reasons aside from that to believe you had more solar than lunar equity? I think something about the way you treated MMR when I skimmed you when making my readslist not too long after I subbed in.

yeah but see, ur the one and CSF who both say you want me limmed and that there is unwillingness to lim me, yet when DDs votes me ur still not voting me. I find that weird given how everyone says im scum ur noting that its a thing. U think im scum and everyone is unwilling to push me. I really don't see anyone calling me town outside math i guess and tbone here. I guess PPF? Which don't get me started on that i have not even examined their read on me a bit.

So are u sus of Math/Tbone as my allies defending me? Who are u worried about that can't get momentum. I also don't understand if u think im more likely in the solar which u say has the more members that would be more reason to elim me over....Ydrasse? Unless you think both solar.

And im not a person who advocates hunting one group over other but if you think one = bigger threat. I would think you go and push to get rid of the one that could crush the town the easiest first

i felt ydra was pretty town with furtive yesterday.

[Firebringer]

i would def characterize u as constantly saying im town as defending but. Why even bother with this argument

[Firebringer]

I am cool with being limmed at this point
Let me laugh I’m dead thread

[Firebringer]

I want to laugh at this game instead of being mad
Someone tell me some jokes

[Firebringer]

@Firebringer wanna pretend we are in dead chat?

yeah lets do it.

LOL this town. they switched to another random wagon. Wtf are they even doing. Praying they just randomly hit scum

[Firebringer]

junkochan brightens this game up.
Never change.

Porkens is still fast asleep. Even after taking critical damage.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Porkens
I guess lets end the suffering. Probably most likely flips scum.
Hope im wrong.

[Firebringer]

flips town*

[Firebringer]

did not expect Porkens scum.
What a plot twist.

VOTE: DDS

[Firebringer]

Meuh not scum. I was wrong.
Maybe CSF doubt it. My reads have been pretty garbage this game.

I wonder if i need to rethink Ydra...

[Firebringer]

spicy stuff
VOTE: Radical Rat

[Firebringer]

junkochan r ur arms tired

[Firebringer]

junkochan r ur arms tired

nop why?

[Firebringer]

We also got really helpful flips. There are two players that I need to obviously move. Not sure if I want Prof above the town line of no return yet, but swinging for Porkens, especially as Rat resisted is huge for me. DDS is basically confirmed town to me based on Math's flip. I haven't move anyone else besides Rat/Prof/DDS at the moment, but I will do some more reading to decide.

Spoiler: Reads 4.0

DDS
FB
Enchant
Junko
-Town Line of No Return-
Prof
CSF/Meuh
Ydrasse
PPF
Rat

Spoiler: Reads 3.1

Rat
FB
Enchant
DDS/Math
Junko
-Town Line of No Return-
CSF/Meuh
Ydrasse
PPF
Toog
Prof

Meuh should be in town bucket.

pedit im definitely solar

[Firebringer]

I want to point out that this night and day names are still confusing as f to me

The trick is to not pay attention to them.

[Firebringer]

mod should have put an idiots guide to phases for us morons in the openning posts

[Firebringer]

That was a long night. How everyone doin

[Firebringer]

?????? Firebringer

right where i belong in ur reads

[Firebringer]

Where did firebringer claim? Long game is long

I don't think he has? What I meant to say was more along the lines of "hasn't claimed pr by now"
Have Enchant and Ydrasse both claimed? I vaguely remember Ydrasse softclaiming VT but Enchant idk

i am all the power roles actually

[Firebringer]

So DDS can't be solar right?
Cause thats who i think is last solar.

Someone tell me im dumb for thinking this

[Firebringer]

i guess there could be 2 solars here actually

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Enchant

okay so besides enchant like...not doing anything.
why him

[Firebringer]

I have heavy doubts that just limming all the lurkers just wins us the game.
I really think we got lucky on toog

[Firebringer]

if this game is that eeasy just killing all the lurkers im actually gonna be upset.
This game was way more noise than worth it if thats the case

[Firebringer]

im definitely lunar

[Firebringer]

ydra why u so demotivated to play this game?

[Firebringer]

I am innocent tho

innocent by virtue of ur guilt

[Firebringer]

Ughhh okay

FIRST
Ydrasse
Firebringer
professotic
T-Bone
PPF
Magician
Meuh
LAST

If you've already full claimed take yourself off the list

claimed VT. Think ydra claimed VT as well

[Firebringer]

@CSF why u voting enchant if u think ydra is way more likely here

[Firebringer]

VOTE: ydrasse

[Firebringer]

enchant wagon bad
ydrasse wagon better

[Firebringer]

enchant wagon bad
ydrasse wagon better

What about CSF?
Did you not wolf read them like a couple of day phases ago before the Porkens flip?

yeah and?

[Firebringer]

What’s your read on them now?
Did it change? How did it change?

well i thought CSF was solar with Meuh.
Now i don't think Meuh is solar since the RR and POrkens flips.

so now i dont

[Firebringer]

We have 2260 right now in the bank.

Now that a number has been said, I think fire should claim all gold numbers. Starting numbers, how much spent on investments each night, how much of a return they got.

Like, now that a hard number has been said, the big secret it kind if out imo, and he should out the whole accounting log to be scrutinized

dead thread luke wanted an audit of me.
Listen this would require me even tracking all the money spent.
I would have to be like a real life accountant to do that. Which I am. But thats my day job. I am here for memes

[Firebringer]

but i receive my towncred yea?

sure enchant, u been a good boy and i will give u free town cred as ur reward.

[Firebringer]

anyone know of any good jokes

[Firebringer]

That is a good joke

[Firebringer]

why is everyone vote adverse in this game

[Firebringer]

Now we got some action going

[Firebringer]

maybe lunar has delayed poisoning that doesn't activate until everyone drinks the cool aid on the seventh night.

wait the cult name is heavens gate im thinking of not seventh gate.
Okay maybe not seventh night? although biblically seventh night is special

[Firebringer]

who says cult games are hard

VOTE: professotic

[Firebringer]

I have reasons to think Prof could be avoiding this game.

as in game reasons or rl reasons

[Firebringer]

That actually happened to me in Masochist mafia. I was nk’d twice but in that game probably both vigged and nk’d but I suppose I could have just been double nk’d. You’d have to ask Fire, he modded that game.

yes this was a thing that happened.
u were the only one sorting that game and everyone tried to kill u.

[Firebringer]

professor u can't be posting anymore

[Firebringer]

u just got banned....im sure u are aware of this.

[Firebringer]

its a hydra of professor and tictac. I am 99% that was professor posting

[Firebringer]

i think professor is lunar.
For solar, i am not really there.
Tin foil says its T-Bone. I am not at tin foil yet.

[Firebringer]

im telling u its a tin foil theory

[Firebringer]

im leaving the solving to u enchant

[Firebringer]

im a sheep for enchant.

[Firebringer]

plot twist: i am solar and all of u are recruited except for PPF.

[Firebringer]

all i hope from this game is that TBone wasn't converted.
cause otherwise i think we lose to that.

Tbone too townie for his own good imo

[Firebringer]

i mean i joined this game mid to end of day 2 so....

[Firebringer]

huh.
was pretty confident i joined mid day 2.

[Firebringer]

It's scummy to not engage with that 1v1, and this particular scumminess is more likely to come from Lunar, because if MMr is Lunar & PPF is town, why wouldn't Solar egg on this 1v1

how is it scummy
i think i heard this several times and still don't understand it.
me apparently ignoring claims i didn't believe was scummy. Yet i hammered MMR thinking he was town and u don't call that scummy?

U go with me saying the claims were a distraction, which tbh i still think in hindsight even tho i was wrong it was a big distraction.

[Firebringer]

"here is a page number tell me if its legit"
Me: "what?"

[Firebringer]

it wasn't a mechanical 1v1 in my eyes. I think i made that pretty fucking clear.

[Firebringer]

"here is a page number tell me if its legit"
Me: "what?"

???

Of course it’s legit but a link makes it alot easier to look up.

I don't know what dingle is trying to point to.

[Firebringer]

ur repeating urself by making it sound like i should have taken it more seriously than i should have.
I treated it exactly as a fake vigilante claim. I didn't believe it. I thought it was fake. And I didn't think it was scum fake.
I also thought it was a big distraction.

If me thinking all that makes me scum. Fine.
But to me ur taking it like i should have taken the guilty as either gospel or something i should have immediately purged because i didn't believe it is tier 1 play. Now this just becomes a philisophy of mafia discussion and not worth engaging on.

[Firebringer]

literally no idea.
totally fine with going today but i think im just gonna sheep enchant.
my reads have been very lackluster this game and i don't intend to push them or even attempt. Gonna have town carry me or yall can get rid of me.

Think we in good position to win this without me putting forward effort to solve this.

[Firebringer]

if i cared enough about this game i might actually try to figure out if anyone in this back in forth discussion on me is scum trying to push me for lim. But i really don't.

Im good with going, i am not going to obvtown and this is just going to continue on and on and like im not going to suddenly become obvtown to people in this game.

as much as everyone says otherwise not possible, my gut and mind go to Dingle is solar.
As far as lunar, idk my worry i guess is T-bone but that is just paranoia speaking.

PPF is the most neutral of players to me in that i kind of just been assuming town so i don't have to think about it.
Enchant is town for last 2 days also i doubt would be recruited.
CSF is town, i kind of linked her alignment to Meuh so like pretty conf there. Like don't see why meuh isn't scum if CSF was. Doesn't make sense to me.
Magician was junko who was strong town. Only possibility of scum is conversion in like last day or two. I put it at as low of odds as CSF.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer
Just flip dangle tomorrow

[Firebringer]

these back and forths between dangle and PPF.
Yes, good stuff.
THis is why i play mafia. For these silly back and forths.

@PPF why are u solely focused on lunar?
U said im possibly solar so i don't get why u are so adamant to fight dangle. Just lim dangle tomorrow imo.

[Firebringer]

No, not really. Think it was rolefishing

[Firebringer]

FB should have a lot more reads than he does

tell me what reads i should have

[Firebringer]

gg no redactions from pt. fine with releasing not much spice in there.

[Firebringer]

gg no redacts
sorry fb but i was limp noodle mode this game

its fine i was a limp noodle as well. shouldn't have just self voted and waited for my death.

Fire is right if you recruited me it would have been a sweep :p

i would have recruited u but i thought solar was going to or did already. also u were only one i felt like i could possibly buddy during the game days.didn't really work out. next time