Eminence in Shadow: Season 1 [Game Over]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sup noob I am shadow and i will destroy the darkness

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I guess i'll start by
VOTE: jjh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Btw disclaimer that i know nothing about the flavor

I will be posting clips from the show entirely out of context pls be my girlfriend it is important to destroy the cult of diabloz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow gamma scum scared alrdy rofl

VOTE: gamma

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow you are not following the script

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pledge your allegiance to me and i will give you powers its ez

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sakura town for refusing my advances

alisae town for wanting to yeet kawaii

im so good at this game sometimes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

only town have trouble reading me facts

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also #1 reason why gamma is mafia lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

only town have trouble reading me facts

is this true?

...

scum alrdy know im town this is not a multiball game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I saw my own thing that made say it was a good vote

what thing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also #1 reason why gamma is mafia lol

I feel like this is some major cap because you’ve used inverse logic before? As in you caught me for not having a defined read on you

are you saying you're trying to play around my expectations of you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I saw my own thing that made say it was a good vote

what thing

The double dip on the Kage TR talk, mindlessly agreeing and then asking about it felt sus

so why r u voting me instead of kawaii then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No I am saying I don’t get why you seem to have changed your metric

I'm not going to use the same read metric from game to game unless it some meta-tell thats near unbreakable along behavioral lines.

also I dont even remember using that to read you in the past I have shittier memory than a goldfish

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mech talk is the last refuge of thieves, scoundrels and cats trapped in backpacks

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hello never watched this show but my character looks hot

locktown

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also hello beautiful lady

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mech talk is the last refuge of thieves, scoundrels and cats trapped in backpacks

Can I be a scoundrel thief cat trapped in a backpack?

only if you fight dunnstral in a duel to the death

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

OH WAIT LMFAO NO
VOTE: pooky
GET HIME OUT OF HERE

oh man i am not in a good mood rn maybe i should come back here later

rofl did cakeboi just vote me and get scared and run away

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im gonna scumside for a bit because i think its funny VOTE: pooky

rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

link to where my TR on Pooky started in Radio Buzz
It’s not super early but I did have a fast soul read so I find it problematic that Pooky is acting like I can’t read him quickly

so whats ur read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

link to where my TR on Pooky started in Radio Buzz
It’s not super early but I did have a fast soul read so I find it problematic that Pooky is acting like I can’t read him quickly

so whats ur read

Lean scum
I think it’s sus that you’re arguing something that is demonstrably not true, but the best argument I can come up with for a scum motive is weak. The idea I have is that you’re trying to undercut my read but that doesn’t make sense so early. I think based on our history it makes more sense for you to pocket me.

wait what am i even arguing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pookie the cutie bear

wow this is the first time anyones called me that if you're mafia I will be devastated

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

link to where my TR on Pooky started in Radio Buzz
It’s not super early but I did have a fast soul read so I find it problematic that Pooky is acting like I can’t read him quickly

so whats ur read

Lean scum
I think it’s sus that you’re arguing something that is demonstrably not true, but the best argument I can come up with for a scum motive is weak. The idea I have is that you’re trying to undercut my read but that doesn’t make sense so early. I think based on our history it makes more sense for you to pocket me.

wait what am i even arguing

That I should be struggling to read you

i didnt say that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you know the difference between the word "only" and "all"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

only town have trouble reading me facts

also #1 reason why gamma is mafia lol

I don’t see any other way to interpret this

so was your read on page 1 a joke or a read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so basically you're claiming you can read me accurately

you're claiming i'm mafia

I know I'm town

and you're confused why I think you're mafia for claiming you can read me accurately and saying I'm mafia?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I’m not claiming my read accuracy on you is perfect, I know that’s bogus. I am saying I have read you on miniscule evidence previously, and you seemed to be denying that? My read on you only really got serious once you did that.

no i was just joking around about town having trouble reading me because mafia dont need to read me

saying that town has trouble reading me doesnt mean that all town has trouble reading me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

in the interests of not having another fistfight over something stupid I offer you this olive branch of peace %<~~~~~~~~>%

UNVOTE:

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: SirCakes

stop hiding and fight me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I s2g i did that out of consideration for your feelings Gamma and not because Cakeboi has decided to vote me and then immediately go into witness protection

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Do you have a reason for suspecting Pooky?

He is scum

roflmao

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why do you think they can't make that post as mafia?

cuz the bad guys in this show are ugly af have you never watched eminence in shadow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what r the odds whemestar opens up a scum pm and decides its time to pretend to be a hot anime waifu to get towncred

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like i dont even think he would even think that he would get towncred if 383 is right and the baddies could be anyone

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thats a good point

mb his character is so hot he would even say it as scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And is this line of defense really what Luka meant, anyway?

i dunno you'd have to wait for luka for that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Someone convince me Cakez is scum because I'm inclined to think otherwise atm but I've been inaccurate on Cakez before

Also @Ali what kind of confidence do you have about Luka!town

whats townie about cakez

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think i figured out why thread feels stiff and its probably bc some ppl play like frightened kittens when they rand PR so im going to ask only once but please pretend you're vt

bruh this game is mountainous did u even read the setup

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Klick's entrance here feels different from when I modded a game when he replaced into a scum slot a while ago

i need more words this is vague as fuck

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: jjh

merry christmas to all esp the mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

He seems kinda confident and is saying things that make me go 'hm okay I could see you having this train of thought as town'

bruh im not even sure if he has a train of thought

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

BCG+Sakura scumteam about to roll us with hyperactivity I called it first

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

BCG+Sakura scumteam about to roll us with hyperactivity I called it first

Bcg+pooky*

Did you know you can't spell spooky without pooky

shit he's onto us

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pookie the cutie bear

would you really say this to me as mafia!?!?!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shocking

I got nominated for best scum preformance on FOL, I have a 3/3 scum winrate on MU and like a 4/5 scum win rate on FoL or something

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pookie the cutie bear

would you really say this to me as mafia!?!?!

Your cuteness shines through no matter what alignment I am

i cant scumread anyone who says im cute

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: PookytheMagicalBear

Yeah let's kill Pooky

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So the Cakez wagon did in fact have no teeth, and the {Pooky/Penguin/Dragons} trio literally in order followed each other from the Cakez wagon to the jjh wagon

this isnt even true

they followed me

claiming that we followed each other is just straight lying

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Day 1 - Our Story Begins
Vote Count 1.05

Sir Cakez [4][E-5] - PookytheMagicalBear, Penguinpower, Save The Dragons, Alisae,
PookytheMagicalBear [2][E-7]- SirCakez, Cephrir
Klick [2][E-7] - ssbm_Kyouko, Sakura Hana,
Sakura Hana - [1][E-8]- KawaiiKame,
KawaiiKame [1][E-8]-- Gamma Emerald,
Penguinpower [1][E-8] - Dunnstral,
Dunnstral -[1][E-8]- Klick
Cephrir [1][E-8] - jjh927
jjh927 [1][-E8] - Big Chungus Gaming ,
Save the Dragons [1][E-8] Whemestar
Gamma Emerald - [1][E-8] - Luka

Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 1) : T3

Day 1 - Our Story Begins
Vote Count 1.06

jjh927 [5][-E4] - Big Chungus Gaming , Klick, PookytheMagicalBear, Penguinpower, Save The Dragons,
Big Chungus Gaming -[2][E-7]-T3, Cephrir
PookytheMagicalBear [1][E-8]- SirCakez
Sakura Hana - [1][E-8]- KawaiiKame,
KawaiiKame [1][E-8]-- Gamma Emerald,
Penguinpower [1][E-8] - Dunnstral,
Cephrir [1][E-8] - jjh927
Sir Cakez [1][E-8] - Alisae,
Save the Dragons [1][E-8] ssbm_Kyouko,
Gamma Emerald - [1][E-8] - Luka,
Klick - [1][E-8] - Whemestar

Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 1) : Sakura Hana,

So the Cakez wagon did in fact have no teeth, and the {Pooky/Penguin/Dragons} trio literally in order followed each other from the Cakez wagon to the jjh wagon

you're literally just taking snapshots in time without looking at the context of what actually happened.

I voted for Cakez - then BCG/PP/STD/Sakura/Alisae followed me on the same day to put Cakez at E-3.


cakez re-enters thread at 327 and asks why is pooky not at e-1 which is ? dunnstral asks him whats the reason for suspecting pooky immediately 6m to try to get an answer from cakeboi. Cakes answer is 333 which is basically not answering the question at all.

I dunno if thats just cakez being his usual scummy self or scum cakez being put on the spot by dunn and not having a good answer but I certainly dont see a "train of thought". he then says some shit about me stretching at a gum factory and claiming the wagon on him is garbage which I can see him doing as either alignment.

now compare this to Cakez/Me last game together where we were town/town this is his iso;

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=83&t=91473&user_select%5B%5D=26092

yea he says some shit about me but he doesnt really take the joke too far. he's got nuanced thoughts about ydrasse and votes her and is actively doing things. he even says he thinks he shouldnt push me or SR me because if I'm scum i'll just be obnoxious to him and it'll be difficult. Which is a pretty reasonable thing to believe about me and one of the reasons I ended up TRing him in this game because his thoughts made sense.

here in this game I have no idea what he's doing. wagoning him didn't really give me a readable response so I moved on and I'm giving him space to do his own thing because I think voting him is just going to cause him to become more intractable/hostile and that's not really useful in any way.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So the Cakez wagon did in fact have no teeth, and the {Pooky/Penguin/Dragons} trio literally in order followed each other from the Cakez wagon to the jjh wagon

this isnt even true

they followed me

claiming that we followed each other is just straight lying

Semantics
If you want to demonstrate that that difference has any significance then feel free

if you want to claim we are a band of murderous rogues I demand proper credit as the leader/mastermind

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what even is the pattern

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like you're saying i'm mafia because two people are following me around?

does that even make sense to you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm saying {Pooky/Penguin/STD} is a unit that i expect to be high % scum because none of you are towny and idk what else scum is intentionally doing at all if they're not involved there

this is just circular reasoning

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so what do you expect the mafia to be doing if me/std/penguin are all town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like there's plenty of options right?

(1) wait their turn for detective pooky to pay them a visit and hope he doesnt figure out they're mafia
(2) try to push someone over that Pooky is pushing so they can blame it on Pooky later
(3) sit on their asses and do nothing and hope Pooky pushes a mislim
(4) try to start another push somewhere else so it doesnt look like they're doing nothing but don't put too much effort into it
(5) bus their partner in a soft way to "distance" but not really persuasively enough to attract thread attention
(6) claim that there must be a mafia in "Pooky Unit" because ???

lets brainstorm what else do you think is possible.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What reason do I have to look specifically at scenarios in which {Pooky/Penguin/STD} are all town

you're claiming that you can't think of any scenario where we are all town

thats only true if you've tried to think about such a scenario and failed to come up with one

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not really interesting in playing semantic word games with you

I'm trying to figure out what the hell your actual read is

so far its all circular nonsense that makes little sense to me

Pooky/STD/PP are mafia because they vote as a unit - ???
Pooky/STD/PP are mafia because they are not townie - ???
Pooky/STD/PP are mafia because I don't know what the mafia would be doing if they aren't mafia ???

Like none of this helps me understand your thought process because frankly there is no thought process

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like at least Dunnstral just made it simple and said "I think pooky is mafia because their posting is "weak" which is p simple and to the point.

you're doing some weird narrative weaving that I struggle to even understand.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

here let me demonstrate an actual read for you;

I think PenguinPower is town because he's just following me around like he expects me to townread him.

I have a pretty strong track record of reading him correctly pretty much every game I've ever played with him without fail so the way he's playing with pretty much no regard for making himself look good and just chilling while following me around feels pretty townie to me. I think he's not worried about being pushed or limmed this game because I'm alive and he expects me to just veto any wagon on him. This thought process only makes sense for him to have if he's town, if he's mafia I'd expect him to actually make some kind of effort.

This is what I mean by a thought process.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've tried to think 'what are the scumteam doing' and the most likely answer I've come up with involves scum in you three

We can spend ages coming up with hypotheticals that act as alternative logic to any given claim in Mafia

But I'm fairly happy with my reasoning, especially since your chosen response to it is to search for a potential alternative to deconstruct the reasoning

sure why is the most likely answer that there is mafia in me/STD/pengy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I do love how you went from "I can't think of any alternatives" to "this is the most likely scenario and we can think of an infinite number of alternative hypotheticals"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

idk what else scum is intentionally doing at all if they're not involved there

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've tried to think 'what are the scumteam doing' and the most likely answer I've come up with involves scum in you three

We can spend ages coming up with hypotheticals that act as alternative logic to any given claim in Mafia

But I'm fairly happy with my reasoning, especially since your chosen response to it is to search for a potential alternative to deconstruct the reasoning

sure why is the most likely answer that there is mafia in me/STD/pengy

r u going to answer this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

here let me demonstrate an actual read for you;

I think PenguinPower is town because he's just following me around like he expects me to townread him.

I have a pretty strong track record of reading him correctly pretty much every game I've ever played with him without fail so the way he's playing with pretty much no regard for making himself look good and just chilling while following me around feels pretty townie to me. I think he's not worried about being pushed or limmed this game because I'm alive and he expects me to just veto any wagon on him. This thought process only makes sense for him to have if he's town, if he's mafia I'd expect him to actually make some kind of effort.

This is what I mean by a thought process.

PenguinPower does not, to my knowledge, intentionally show more effort as scum

This is pretty consistently his playstyle regardless of alignment

i didn't say more effort, I said he'd at least try to look like he's doing something instead of just following me around

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The answer would be that they're not intentionally doing anything

I am providing you with your citations not asking you a question

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like our conversation has been;

Klick: I think there's mafia in Pooky/STD/PP because I don't know what the mafia would be doing if they weren't in that group - 669
Pooky: ok then what would the mafia be doing if Pooky/STD/PP are all town? - 670
Klick: Idk - 671
Pooky: list of possible scenarios - 672
Klick: I have no reason to care about possible scenarios - 673
Pooky: well if you dont think of any then how did you arrive at 669? - 674
Klick: well there are many alternatives but the most LIKELY scenario is that one of you three are scum. - 677

this is just moving your goalposts around, I don't understand what your underling logical basis is.

It's fine if you don't have one just say that so I don't have to ask you eleven times for something that's not there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: ssbm kyouko

gotta shamelessly bounce to the next target

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok dunnstral

what would i be focussed on if i was town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the reason i focussed on his grouping argument is because its so ridiculous it borders on too scummy to be scum and i wanted to dig into it to see if he had geniune conviction or if hes mafia just making shit up. i know klick has trouble keeping up in real time and absolutely nothing he has said has made me think hes town with real suspicion because hes just continued to obfuscate with vague verbal tricks.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also his entire argument of he cant see what scum are doing if they arent in the only group of people doing stuff is ludicrious and you should know this since you have played in large themes where scum teams sit on their asses and do absolutely nothing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the reason i focussed on his grouping argument is because its so ridiculous it borders on too scummy to be scum and i wanted to dig into it to see if he had geniune conviction or if hes mafia just making shit up. i know klick has trouble keeping up in real time and absolutely nothing he has said has made me think hes town with real suspicion because hes just continued to obfuscate with vague verbal tricks.

What u think of big long post

it was a pile of unreadable word salad garbage and i doubt you made it in good faith

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if i could sue you for damages i would file a claim in mafiascum court for wasting my time on utterly trite bullshit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok dunnstral

what would i be focussed on if i was town

the reason i focussed on his grouping argument is because its so ridiculous it borders on too scummy to be scum and i wanted to dig into it to see if he had geniune conviction or if hes mafia just making shit up. i know klick has trouble keeping up in real time and absolutely nothing he has said has made me think hes town with real suspicion because hes just continued to obfuscate with vague verbal tricks.

also his entire argument of he cant see what scum are doing if they arent in the only group of people doing stuff is ludicrious and you should know this since you have played in large themes where scum teams sit on their asses and do absolutely nothing

I feel that by repeatedly going back to that argument you are focused on something that is easier for you to "win" to appear better.

theres literally nothing else for me to talk about substantively with him because his push is a pile of shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

itd be a good point if he had like a laundry list of reasons and i cherrypicked the weakest one but he literally has nothing else for me to even ask him about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i asked you what you think town me would be talking to him about and you just restated your original post without even answering so why dont you try answering the question

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

his case/argument essentially boils down to;

[a] Well I think scum have to be

doing something

in this game

Since Pooky/STD/PP are the ones actively wagoning together in a unit, they must be scum because they are the ones

doing something

this game

This isn't true because in a stagnant game state where not a lot of threatening wagons have appeared and the thread is more or less lethargic because holidays/rl/whatever the scum

do not need to do anything because there is no threat to them

I think you know his point is complete garbage because in your last large theme as scum you didn't do anything and the scum team had no actual plan or tried to do anything and you're just kind of handwaving it to attack me for focusing on it like you expect town!me to not focus on a shitty argument when someone presents it and uses it to push me which is nonsensical.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you have no reasoning

it was useful because it helped me refine my read on sakura dunn and alisae

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the entire premise of your argument is that the "scum team" is trying to "accomplish some goal" by "this point in the game"

here is a completed large theme with Dunnstral in it that finished

viewtopic.php?t=91817

you look at the first 32 pages of that game and you tell me what the fuck the scum team is trying to accomplish

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the idea that a group of people trying to get something done in this game which has nothing going on has to have scum in it because they are the only people doing something is asinine and ridiculous

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also for bonus points here's a game where you're scum vs town me

viewtopic.php?t=88034

you and infinity basically pretend to be tree branches and do absolutely nothing while me and wisdom fight over who gets to townread tammy and put her in the coalition with them and all sorts of silly nonsense.


so I know you know that its possible for a scum team to not have a plan or actually have some kind of actual rythymn in the early game.

everything you've said about a scum team must have a plan therefore the only people with a plan are in the scum team is just narrative creation and complete nonsense that you know is false

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you're scum who's decided to shitpush me with the world's dumbest argument to pretend like you're doing something let me just tell you that i will never townread you off of "too stupid to be scum" because I respect you as a person and I think you are a pretty good scum hunter.

if you're town it should be pretty obvious to you who is egging this fight on and who is trying to get you to not troll me with nonsense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm not self destructive i just have a low tolerance for bullshit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i asked you what you think town me would be talking to him about and you just restated your original post without even answering so why dont you try answering the question

Well I feel I did show what I was thinking. I think you looping back to the same arguments is scum indicative, so if you were town I think you would not be doing that. I don't think you would bring up the same point over and over again. As I said I think you keep going back to this point because it is perhaps the easiest point to argue against - the three people voting together bit.

WHAT OTHER POINT DOES HE EVEN HAVE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the entire premise of your argument is that the "scum team" is trying to "accomplish some goal" by "this point in the game"

here is a completed large theme with Dunnstral in it that finished

viewtopic.php?t=91817

you look at the first 32 pages of that game and you tell me what the fuck the scum team is trying to accomplish

You weren't in this game, is there a reason you brought this game up?

to show you should know his point about scum teams having a plan is wrong but you just nodded along and egged him on

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Klick

: Within the reasoning you've given so far, i think out of the 3 it's more likely pooky town and 2 sheep scum than an entire scumteam piling up, like when does that even happen. More importantly consistently during the day.

@BCG

: Please answer the questions i gave you during my re-read

like this is the way sakura engaged with klicks point about scum teams having a plan

the way you engaged was basically to ignore him when you know that its not a good point

reeks of scum being selective in their memory for advantage

like if you're mafia and klick is town pushing me I can see you just ignoring that point because you know it doesnt help your position in this game and you want him to keep pushing me attracting all of my fire

meanwhile you chip in with this nonsense about how im "focussing" on one aspect therefore im scum which is nonsense because it was literally the only thing he even presented for me to talk about

so again i ask you for the fourth time WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TOWN ME TO EVEN RESPOND HIM WITH

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it is extremely easy for scum to weave narrative conclusions about people

____ is doing ____ because ___ is mafia.

for example you are doing that here with Pooky is mafia because he is focussing on one part of Klick's push to "score easy points"

real town thought involves looking at the counter factual and differentiating multiple probability states.

as in if Pooky is town what would Pooky be doing

instead

of what he is doing now which I have said is scummy?

I have asked you now for the fourth time what you expect me to do if I'm town because I'm not sure you're even thinking about that and only one alignment doesn't think about "well what if i'm wrong" because that alignment has a motive to be wrong

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so Klick is pushing me here with the following argument;

this unit of Pooky/STD/PP must contain mafia because they are the only people pushing something in this game and the scum must be doing something at this point - since they are the only people doing something they must have some scum in the grouping.

This logic is incredibly beneficial for mafia to push if Pooky/STD/PP are all town because if you mislim one you can just move on to the others - theres gotta be one in there right?

I am attacking his logic because I struggle to see how town him believes it because frankly it makes little to no sense to me and having a fight with him about it helps me sort everyone else who is giving their opinions on it as we fight about it.

Alisae said we're probably both town and want us to stop fighting - ali probably town if klick is town because alisae knows us fighting is ++ scum win equity and alisae is not a i'm going to be the voice of reason scum player in a disjointed game state, alisae loves going for the throat.

Sakura tried to understand what klick was talking about in a way that felt p curious and didnt really help him push me its less townie than alisae but its some real thought process

Dunnstral

knows

that Klick's underlying argument about "scum must have a plan and be doing something" is wrong because he literally just played as scum in a large theme where he didnt have a plan. yet he said nothing about it and instead he just made up some bullshit about how me targetting a specific part of Klick's case amounts to cherrypicking to score townpoints.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No I never egged Klick on. I said you were the one repeatedly bringing focus back to that, not Klick. I think you are trying to make this point out to be a much bigger part of this push than it is.

what else is in his push then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you keep pretending that I am cherrypicking to target a specific part of his push when his push consists of absolutely no logic OTHER than this "grouping argument"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how is it so hard for you to come up with what else is in his push if you dont already know it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dunnstral tell me how its even possible for you to think "klick has a good push on pooky but pooky is cherrypicking this specific part of his argument to avoid the other points such as X, Y and Z"

but when I ask you point blank to your face what X Y and Z are that you can't come up with a single fucking point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky you know I have my own reasons for scumreading you, and I don't have to explain everything Klick is doing to be allowed to have my own read. You're wrong that the scum team didn't have a plan in the game I played that you linked - our plan was to survive and shoot a bunch of people. We just weren't very good at it.

yes your plan was to survive and vibe

not push something directly in the thread because you hoped town conflicts would take center stage because there were multiple town on town pushes

this is basic fucking strategy and you know it so I dont expect you to see Klick saying this nonsense about scum must be doing something

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dunnstral tell me how its even possible for you to think "klick has a good push on pooky but pooky is cherrypicking this specific part of his argument to avoid the other points such as X, Y and Z"

but when I ask you point blank to your face what X Y and Z are that you can't come up with a single fucking point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Can you quote where I said Klick has a good push?

semantics

your accusation is that i'm focussing on the weak part of his push in order to "score points"

that implies there is a strong part of his push that i'm "avoiding"

I am literally engaging him on the only part of his push that even exists so I ask you for the 6th time what exactly do you expect me to do as town when Klick pushes me with a pile of garbage?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so you think his push is bad ?

can you stop being coy and playing around with words

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like what the fuck even is your point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

answer the question

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you think Klick's push is a bad push?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tell me dunnstral stop moving the goalposts around to play hide a peek a boo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

here i'll even write the words out for you if you're having trouble

Klick's push is a good push because ___INSERT REASONING HERE___

Klick's push is a bad push because ___INSERT REASONING HERE___

pick one and stop dancing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's not semantics, you posted 20 times and several posts you've made are based on things that aren't true or never happened. Let's slow down and start fact checking instead of making baseless assertions.

which point did i make is based on something not true or never happened

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh so you dont even know

wow its almost like you never even read his push and r just slinging shit

VOTE: Dunnstral

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you shouldve just stuck with pretending to not exist i might have never even got to voting you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

here's the way the "focus on a scummy part of a push" is scum indicative tell is actually supposed to work.

If Player A pushes Player B with A, B & C reasoning and Player B picks out the weakest part of Player A's case to shove back on Player A with, that's scum indicative because B is conflating the entire push with a specific weak part of the push.

To use it on B you actually need to have a case with a strong logical basis to begin with.

So for you to think me doing that to Klick is scum indicative makes sense as a scumread in your mind you have to

know

which part of Klick's case/push on me is strong and that I'm

avoiding

because that shows a scum motivation.

Instead when I ask you, you don't even know what he's pushing me for

other

than the reasoning I'm talking to him about because to you it's just a town on town push and a conflict you want to stoke. If you're town you would actually know what he's pushing me for.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Frankly at this point I read the last few pages as Pooky actively stirring the pot for way longer than necessary on things that aren't actually that important

figuring out whether this push is scum or town motivated is important to me because its literally how i figure out alignments

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Here is the issue: You voted for SirCakez, and then voted for jjh, but neither of the votes you have made were accompanied with good reasoning. When asked about Cakez, you simply say "what's townie about cakez" which is not really an answer.

You do later talk about Cakez later in 657, but only after the start of this push by Klick. The post you make here is pretty reasonable though, and I don't have a problem with it.

yes I talked about how I thought about Cakez alignment after Klick pushed me and claimed I wasnt sorting Cakez.

this is because its important to show my thought process if people think i'm mafia for not thinking

its not good for me to show my thought process while pushing someone to sort them because thats literally giving them the answer key and makes the sorting pretty useless

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Now let's loop back to the reason I am scumreading you, and what I think you are doing as mafia here that you wouldn't do as town. I think you are hyper focused on one specific aspect of this push against you, what I would call the easiest part of the push to argue against, and are trying to make this all about that, to the extent that you are now even accusing me of things related to it when I never really interacted with that reasoning myself before. I think you, as mafia, want to talk about this, and you can't get over it.

you keep claiming that im hyperfocussed on one aspect of the push but theres literally nothing else to his push so what else am i even supposed to talk to him about?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Here is the issue: You voted for SirCakez, and then voted for jjh, but neither of the votes you have made were accompanied with good reasoning. When asked about Cakez, you simply say "what's townie about cakez" which is not really an answer.

You do later talk about Cakez later in 657, but only after the start of this push by Klick. The post you make here is pretty reasonable though, and I don't have a problem with it.

yes I talked about how I thought about Cakez alignment after Klick pushed me and claimed I wasnt sorting Cakez.

this is because its important to show my thought process if people think i'm mafia for not thinking

its not good for me to show my thought process while pushing someone to sort them because thats literally giving them the answer key and makes the sorting pretty useless

OK. This is just explaining Klick's point of view when they were pushing you. At the time, you hadn't explained anything so it's fair to have been on you for that.

so i'm not hyper focussed on that aspect? you mean I addressed other aspects of his push? shocking

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so you think his push is bad ?

can you stop being coy and playing around with words

I'm not being coy, you're flooding the thread with assertions that don't have much basis, and I want you to go back and fact-check yourself instead of moving on to the next assertion and flooding the thread with new half-baked assertions... which makes it really difficult to try to disprove each one.

sure ill take the time to go one by one with you lets do it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Look at post 666 by Klick above. It seems clear to me that while Klick does think you are mafia for the reason that "mafia must be doing something", it is nowhere near the amount of significance you seem to be placing on it. They say as much in the next post. They mention this again in post 709.

I'm saying {Pooky/Penguin/STD} is a unit that i expect to be high % scum because none of you are towny and idk what else scum is intentionally doing at all if they're not involved there

I think this would make more sense if you made the group {Penguin, STD}. and even then I wouldn't agree there is "high%" - ">rand" maybe?

More importantly though, why is Pooky a part of the group if Penguin and STD are following his vote around? Independent of other players, how is he scum?

I think what's notable is being part of the makeup of the two major wagons so far, not necessarily the sheeping itself

I don't have a case to give on Pooky!scum outside of what I've already talked about.

^^

Klick himself admits when Sakura asks him why does he think Pooky is mafia that this is the major part of his case so you're just trolling atp

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so you think I should be talking to Klick about his POE in a large theme game where the game just started and nothing really has happened except me+friends wagoning two people

sure dunnstral how should I be talking to him about his POE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My issue with you I've said. If you're town I don't know what I'd expect you to be doing, but what I am seeing from you makes me think you are mafia.

I don't even have a mafia incentive to create wagons so not even this part is correct

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You again keep talking about how you only have one thing to talk about by Klick. I think you blew this one thing way out of proportion, and are making discussion revolve around this point.

ok what should I be talking about with Klick

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My issue with you I've said. If you're town I don't know what I'd expect you to be doing, but what I am seeing from you makes me think you are mafia.

I don't even have a mafia incentive to create wagons so not even this part is correct

Not the wagon part. The way you are responding to this push on you is what makes me think you are mafia.

because

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so you think I should be talking to Klick about his POE in a large theme game where the game just started and nothing really has happened except me+friends wagoning two people

sure dunnstral how should I be talking to him about his POE

To be clear, I didn't say this. I don't know what you "should be" doing. What you "are" doing looks like you are mafia.

dunnstral can you just be clear what you think I should be doing as town instead of repeating the same bullshit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My issue with you I've said. If you're town I don't know what I'd expect you to be doing, but what I am seeing from you makes me think you are mafia.

I don't even have a mafia incentive to create wagons so not even this part is correct

Not the wagon part. The way you are responding to this push on you is what makes me think you are mafia.

because

I've explained why. You keep going back to the same point and I think that is how mafia responds to this push.

ok and you think town would respond how when someone pushes them with a point that is nonsensical

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't know exactly what to expect from you as town. I don't know what you 'should' be doing, and that is not important to me.

yea exactly so you're more interested in narrative pushing than actually sorting my behavior

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like this entire time I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe town dunnstral actually thinks Scum!Pooky does this while Town!Pooky does this and this is closer to scum!Pooky than town!pooky but you can't even come up with a reasonable course of action for Town!Pooky to be doing.

which shows me you really don't care what Town!Pooky would be doing because you're more interested in pushing the narrative that this is a scum reaction than a town reaction.

You want to push the narrative that if Pooky!mafia is pushed in a nonsensical way his reaction is to bludgeon the person pushing him and their case.

here's why that's wrong for a few reasons.

(1) bad cases are their own antidote, you don't need to smash a bad case because

it's a bad case

people will read it and be unconvinced. the best move as scum whenever someone shitpushes you with a bad case is to just ignore it because noone will be convinced by it and your own teammates won't push you for it. It's early d1 in a large theme and its not dangerous. pushing back just gives it more oxygen and focusses attention on you. attention is bad.

(2) creating interaction spaces inside a large theme that is not moving creates more sorting oppurtunities for the town, who takes what side, how the conflict plays out are all minus scum EV.


here's why I pretty much only react this way as town;

(1) reaction gauging - by shoving back at Klick's case I get to measure his reaction in real time across multiple interaction instances to see if he actually believes what he's selling or if it's scum shitpush for reasons.

(2) getting other people to take sides and chip in- who says something? who says nothing? who should know better but doesn't say anything? who eggs the conflict on ? these are all sorting instances and allows generation of reads on things that matter.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think it's clear that you are not engaging in good faith or understand where I am coming from, and are instead trying to twist everything I say. You also continue to flood the thread with new questions instead of going back and fact-checking what you've already said. I'm going to bow out from this conversation. I suspect somebody will come in, see you've made angry posts, and lazily call you town. To that person, I implore you to rethink things.

I've reached out to you in the very beginning and asked for your counter factual.

you dodged me for over a day while inventing reason after reason and then claimed its actually not important at all for sorting which is just laughably untrue.

To claim that I'm not engaging in good faith is just comical atp

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't know exactly what to expect from you as town. I don't know what you 'should' be doing, and that is not important to me.

yea exactly so you're more interested in narrative pushing than actually sorting my behavior

I've sorted your behavior as mafia. I don't need to know exactly what you would do as town to think the way you are responding is mafia. I think you are repeatedly trying to twist my arguments.

you're adding the word "exactly" in order to strawman like I want you to come up with an exact mental model. I asked for one example to show you're actually even thinking about it rather than just narrative weaving

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lastly I recognize that its possible that we're actually T/T here.

I want you to recognize that in the world where we're both town, you've done the equivalent of plugging your fingers in your ears and screaming "pooooooky is scuuuuuum" while I've been trying to understand your perspective and the only thing you can come up with is "you're mafia because this is how I expect mafia you to react i don't even know how town you would act and i don't care if you're town" which is a ROFL way to play this game and I hope you're actually mafia because I have no words if this is your townplay.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lastly i want to address the last point you said about me being angry

i'm not angry

i'm having fun

im exasperated but having fun cuz games are about fun.

I will not hold it against any person in this game or any future game if I am mislimmed because its just a game and we're all doing our best.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

9. Klick - town

I need the cliff notes for this read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

9. Klick - town

I need the cliff notes for this read

my mum said so

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ssbm_Kyouko
Sakura Hana
Whemestar
Alisae
KawaiiKame
Luka
Pookythemagicalbear
T3

Klick
Dunnstral
jjh927
SirCakez

Gamma Emerald
Cephrir
Penguinpower
Save the Dragons


hilariously I think this is the middle tier I had in the list I made earlier lmao

ngl i think the 2nd tier in this list is more likey to be the scum team than the other list

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think the fact that absolutely no1 wants to help me vote dunnstral means he's just mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think the fact that absolutely no1 wants to help me vote dunnstral means he's just mafia

What's your scum case on duun? I haven't read his iso.

I think the way he pushed me was disingenuous and convoluted. It felt like he had not overarching point and relied on weird verbal tricks to dance around me instead of sorting me. I felt that he never really felt curious about my alignment and wanted to project a lot of certainty about me being mafia which doesn't make sense to me because town!him has never been very good at catching me when I'm mafia like ever. He fell back to wild levels of ate and then quietly shrunk off to vote STD instead when it looked like he was getting nowhere instead of trying to convince anyone I am mafia.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So the lack of solving and convincing makes you feel duun is mafia? Duun is pretty methodical as town in my experience, if he just drops you out of nowhere without pushing you hat's pretty concerning

you can read his iso for yourself and you tell me why he thinks I'm mafia and if that's a genuine belief or some bullshit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think it's clear that you are not engaging in good faith or understand where I am coming from, and are instead trying to twist everything I say. You also continue to flood the thread with new questions instead of going back and fact-checking what you've already said. I'm going to bow out from this conversation. I suspect somebody will come in, see you've made angry posts, and lazily call you town. To that person, I implore you to rethink things.

this is the conclusion to our conversation or p much the last thing he said to me.

it essentially says that he thinks my plan is to angrily shout him down and hope people see a lot of posts flying back and forth and be too lazy to sort between us who is lying and who is truthtelling or whatever.

I find it hard to believe he believes this for a number of reasons but I thought it'd be interesting to see what would happen if I simply walk away from the argument and chill while ignoring him.

and basically everyone voting me left to go find a new wagon, nobody's voting me, nobody thinks dunn's read on me is right and I've been doing basically nothing for the past three days which plays directly into what he says my behavior pattern is as scum, that i'm just spamming to shut him up and I don't really care.

now in that time he's basically decided to go tap a few different people like saying alisae's read is fake, saying BCG's read is post fact ad hoc, having the world's fakest conversation with JJh, planting his vote on STD which reeks of voting some easy to push LHF slot that nobody can sort because he's not even playing.

he's said not a damn thing about me or the fact that I've basically decided to stop posting since our fight.

and absolutely none of that behavior pattern reads as someone who is absolutely convinced i'm mafia and trying to "implore" the town to read past my "angry posts" and rally support for my lim.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cant get a mislim on koba so hes gonna try to get one on me ok cool story.

tell dunnstral in the scum pt to come follow i miss that dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am the most pleasant person here by all opinion polls

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can see that this is obviously not going to work so I'll stop. I mean, not that I was really trying very hard. the above concern they will actually go through is very not founded though, there are so many of you just desperate to do anything to keep this unpleasant person around which is odd but whatever.

VOTE: pooky

Who are you calling unpleasant???

I find it hard to believe you can't piece this together so I think this is probably you starting shit

Based on the vote I thought you meant pooky but I quickly thought it might have been BCG
KEEP IN MIND: I made in a mod error in my last completed game I ran because someone ranted about shit that had zero consequence on their night action in the NA submission PM! So

yes

, I really do need this shit clarified!

why r u trying to convince cephrir you really need this shit clarified if you think hes mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

There is no life in those bright bear eyes

you cant see my eyes because i have the best shades

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cant get a mislim on koba so hes gonna try to get one on me ok cool story.

tell dunnstral in the scum pt to come follow i miss that dude

You don't believe this even a little bit.

The way I am mentally confbiasing on this right now must be experienced to be believed

cool story bro

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cant get a mislim on koba so hes gonna try to get one on me ok cool story.

tell dunnstral in the scum pt to come follow i miss that dude

You don't believe this even a little bit.

The way I am mentally confbiasing on this right now must be experienced to be believed

cool story bro

This post is a "and I'm going to get away with it" and you know that I know it and you're also right.

*twirls mustache in a very handsome way*

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ceph is good at efforting and trying hard as scum

He feels more relaxed here and open with his thoughts

He also gets annoyed or tilted easily on here (Sorry babe) and he has had personal frustration leak into the game to a point where he was sassing gamma and later apologized for it. I don't think scum cephrir does that. But town cephrir can be more biting because he's not worried about drawing negative attention to himself.

My natural inclination is to scumread cephrir. The fact I can townread him so easily makes me just think he's really town here

Spoiler:

ok but I'm still going to call him mafia because it's more fun that way, I think you're right though but don't tell him!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm starting to lose faith in my pooky tr

Why?

Pooky hasn't made a page top counter or asked me to join a cult

ROFL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r u two flirting in the thread by voting me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: pooky
This is infinitely preferable to a vote on me or Cakez rn

lol do you even scumread me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don’t really townread you currently, and I would like to kick the can along on the matter of me + cakez vs. kyouko

what do I have to do with kyouko

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gamma do you have any scumreads

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gamma do you have any scumreads

Kinda, I don’t have much cohesion in my thought process; it’s hard for me to do that in most larges

have you considered pushing your scumreads instead of random person over there

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Would you join me if I did?

i will totally join you if the person is dunnstral

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

When I are up I want to see some people say why they think cakez is town

I think Dunnstral's read of SirCakez and overt defense of him makes him TMI'd town. 585 792

as the game has progressed and Cakez became leading wagon on a 2nd go around - Dunnstral's said nothing to defend his Cakez Townread from earlier and just kind of twiddling his thumbs trying to pretend he doesn't exist.

Feels like he wants the Cakez wagon to go through. His inactivity while Cakez/BCG are the leading wagons makes me think he's comfortable with either one going through which doesnt make sense if he's scum with scum!cakez or town with a cakez townread. Furthermore he says nothing to really defend Cakez when he does enter the thread.

Dunnstral's scumplay I would classify as "act when necessary" and I think in game states that are favorable to scum he doesn't really do much you can see G+R for an example of Dunnstral doing nothing in a game state favorable to mafia.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like read Dunnstral's iso and try to find an update on the Cakez read, you can't find one because he just decided to stop talking about Cakez like he doesn't exist for some reason

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ceph join the cool animals and help us slay dunn the baddie I will make you hot chocolate

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is too steamy for my PG eyes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Furthermore he says nothing to really defend Cakez when he does enter the thread.

What did Dunn need to defend Cakez from at which point? Can u link these posts to me?

you're right, I just skimmed vcs/dunn's iso i didnt actually notice he hasnt posted in a long time

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i probly should not have actually said anything and just waited to see what dunn would actually do whenever he finally shows up to the thread again

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i probly should not have actually said anything and just waited to see what dunn would actually do whenever he finally shows up to the thread again

In the event that you're town and dunn is scum, then yes, you're basically giving Dunn free reign to nullify your case now.
I do want to give you the benefit of the doubt and think that you made an honest mistake in casing Dunn instead of trying to mislead people.

well if he's mafia and cakez is town then I'm still right that he decided to not post in the thread to defend his townread but yea it is a mistake to say things before people do things.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

her profile picture is too good looking to be mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are we here to discuss sakura's townieness

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Alisae's got a lot of town energy feelz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm a lazy ass bear sue me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how so?

that first readlist where she put everyone as town was too pure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

except for cakez

no cake cakez

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

jjh - PLAY
Gamma - Town
Sakura - Town
Dunn - Feels townie
Pooky - Town
SirCakez - Exists
Luka - Town
Duelist Kage - gun to head town
MemeStar - town
STD - Exists
Cephrir - Town
Big Chungus Gaming - I want to townread, my better judgment says no
PP - Exists
KawaiiKame - Town
ssbm_kyouko - town
T3 - I trust him about as far as I can throw him.

VOTE: SirCakez

actually theres more nontownreads than I remember but when I read it I thought it was everyone other than cakez so i'm going to pretend what this actually was

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

los tacos no.1 all the way

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how so?

that first readlist where she put everyone as town was too pure

Do you really believe this

nah totally a fake read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is an open admission that im just watching and eating popcorn rn bc I genuinely have no idea how to interact with this game state except with the fun way of seeing how ppl react to me saying this post

Must be nice

im actually eating a burrito so im actively lying too

fuck it im just going to get a burrito too

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i lied im gonna log off b4 i starve to death

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dunnstral is the definition of coasting right now he's posted one time in the last four days

he posted four times on sunday and none on saturday

you can't look at that and tell me that's a player who wants to be here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

all information in the following VC has been counted by a drunk bear. Whether it is accurate is not guaranteed. This is not moderator impersonation

After the Seven Shadows rout the cultists in their lair, Viscount Grease flees only to stumble directly into Cid. A battle ensues....

Day 1 - A Battle in the Catacombs
Vote Count 1.17

Gamma Emerald [4][E-5] -Klick, PenguinPower, ssbm_Kyouko, Cephrir
Dunnstral [4][E-5] - PookytheMagicalBear, Luka, Sakura Hana, Gamma Emerald
Big Chungus Gaming [2][E-7]-T3, Dunnstral,
Sir Cakez [1][E-8] - KawaiiKame,
Alisae [1][E-8] - SirCakez
Whemestar[1][E-8] - Big Chungus Gaming,
ssbm_Kyouko [1][E-8] - Save The Dragons,
jjh927 [1][E-8] - Alisae
Save The Dragons [1][E-8] - Whemestar


Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 1) : jjh927,

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Eliminate.
Deadline is (expired on 2024-01-07 15:45:00)

Mod Note: No current prods

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i feel like at this point dunnstral is somewhat in anti-spew mode because his response to sakura does not read as like a townie reaction in any way at all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wheme how is dunnstral not coasting at this point in the game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Plus their sudden voting on whoever did that dunn math was rly weird

weird doesnt equal mafia?

like what?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but what's the scum motivation behind such a vote

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but what's the scum motivation behind such a vote

Idk I’ve always had bad feeling about the slot and there’s no town motivation behind it either so why not go back to that slot

what are these bad feelings?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

HELLO HELLO HELLO
SHAME I WASN'T ACTIVE LAST TIME BUT WE'RE FINALLY IN A GAME TOGETHER POOKY

DONT PLAN ON READING
THIS WILL BE MY CONTRIBUTION TO THIS GAME INSTEAD

[IMAGE REMOVED]

i am automatically biased against your slot for hornyposting frame 1

I TAKE ONE LITTLE NAP AND I MISS THE HORNYPOST FML

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think this is a compromise or lurker D1 elimination either, Penguin always enters games like thats just his playstyle

Versus especially JJH feels like a coin flip

?

why is penguin mafia if he always enters games like this?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

On one hand we have a lurker who may or may not contribute on later days and an easily sortable good player who is lurking for unknown reasons

On the other hand we have a player with poorly thought out reads and who is unwilling to compromise whose future contributions will invariably disrupt the gamestate and make it difficult to solve

Someone please give me a good reason for not voting Alisae that isn’t “uh um good vibes”

Town!Alisae is a large asset who will contribute more positively later on than you are giving credit for

That combined with said 'good vibes' makes me resistant to an Alisae push

Yeah it's just that he's been streaming on twitch for an average of 11 and a half hours a day for the past week while not playing mafia

detective t3 spending 11 hours a day stalking alisae's twitch livestream trying to catch a glimpse of the mafia pt

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: kawaiikame
this person doesn't play games let's just day 1 hang them and get it over with

Nice Ali

Whemestar I would like your opinion about what Dunnstral just said about his play in Guns & Roses 1918 1919

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also 1915

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Koba how helpful is my death for your reads?

wdym by “that one”?

also you two both played in G&R so I want to hear what you think too

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[Save the Dragons, PenguinPower, pookythemagicalbear]

THE UNIT

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[Save the Dragons, PenguinPower, pookythemagicalbear]

THE UNIT

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Anyway, ill just say that I have a mech guilty on pooky and leave it at that.

i have been framed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Anyway, ill just say that I have a mech guilty on pooky and leave it at that.

i have been framed

ok
explain yourself

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yoink

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

4 seconds. Dammit.

too slow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there is absolutely nothing in my role that hints that I could trigger any kind of guilty

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have the same role pm as dunnstral except my character is hotter

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I enjoy them!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sakura can we stop with the reaction test now people actually think im mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma's claimed scum, Pooky's also scum although he's not claimed scum, I think eliminating known scum (Gamma) is better but Alisae's right that going for the head might be better, but that's a future us problem.

i cant believe im being eliminated before claimed scum gamma

this world is too cruel

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sakura can we stop with the reaction test now people actually think im mafia

It's ok I think you're town.

<3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Klick

I oppose harming Luka

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

where's STD maybe we can vote together as THE UNIT again

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

inb4 jjh still thinks i suck

THE UNIT

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Goddess Trial

Day 2 - Goddess Trial
Vote Count 2.02 -

Luka - [7][E-1] Luka, Sakura Hana, SirCakez, PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald, Katsuki, T3
Klick - [1][E-7] Pooky[INNOCENT BEAR FRAMED BY EVIL PEOPLE]

Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 6) : jjh927, Save The Dragons, Whemestar, Alisae, tired person, Klick,

With 14 Alive, It Takes 8 to Eliminate.
Deadline is (expired on 2024-01-22 11:44:00)

Mod Note: I smell bad because I didn't show
Pooky Note: This vote count is not moderator impersonation

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: gamma

for STD

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

LETS JUST NOM GAMMA TODAY SOLELY SO FB DOESNT HAVE TO FIND A REPLACEMENT FOR THAT SLOT

AND BECAUSE YESTERDAYS VC SAID POOKY IS INNOCENT BEAR FRAMED BY EVIL PEOPLE

VOTE: GE

facts

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gamma got banned

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: gamma

for STD

You're funny

VOTE: Pooky

i luv u too

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have no idea why I am sleepwalking at night or why my body shows up at crime scenes but i think it fits with the theme of the show tbh