Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)

[Ircher]

Are there any claims I should be aware of?

[Ircher]

@Jaack

What happened to your Tyler analysis; you kept saying that yet it doesn't look like it ever happened.

[Ircher]

Also I targeted tool and got nothing

You claimed Voyeur, and you didn't see anything happen to Tool? Makes sense cuz mafia probably have another goon or encryptor, so your role is almost useless right now.

What I find interesting is why mafia would keep two confirmed townies alive.

We have a 33% chance of winning today, and a 50% chance of winning tomorrow for a total chance of winning at 67%.

Just looking at some ISOs and recent posts, I am inclined to believe Jaack is the last scum right now.

[Ircher]

Peruvian Nightclub Mafia

by zulfy

Hi hello. Let's play the game.
Edit: Mafia has daytalk! You should know

Spoiler: Game Events

Day 1 start
Votecount 1.01
Votecount 1.02
Votecount 1.03
Floof replaces hobbez
Votecount 1.04
Robert2424 orders a drink
Votecount 1.05
Votecount 1.06
Votecount 1.07
Votecount 1.08
Votecount 1.09
Votecount 1.10
Votecount 1.11
Votecount 1.12
Votecount 1.13
Votecount 1.14
Lynch Day 1
heuristically_alone is kicked out/Day 1 end
iraonavp dies/Night 1 end
Day 2 start/Zakk replaces Floof
Votecount 2.02
Votecount 2.03
Zachstralkitai orders a drink
Votecount 2.04
Votecount 2.05
Votecount 2.06
Votecount 2.07
Votecount 2.08/Desmond_13 replaces zakk
Votecount 2.09
Votecount 2.10
Votecount 2.11
Desmond_13 flips/Night 2 start
Zachstralkita flips/Day 3 start
Votecount 3.02
Votecount 3.03
Votecount 3.04
TheOtherFiction replaces Robert2424
Votecount 3.05
Votecount 3.06
Votecount 3.07
Votecount 3.08
Votecount 3.09
Votecount 3.10 (4.0??)
Creature flips/Day 3 end
Jake flips/Day 4 start
Votecount 4.01
Votecount 4.02
Votecount 4.03
Votecount 4.04
Xyzzy flips/Day 4 end
Dunnsral flips/Day 5 start

Rules

1. All mafiascum.net rules apply to this game (That includes discussing other on-going games)
   
2. Do not be abusive towards any other player.
   
3. Do not claim scum
   , even jokingly.
   
4. Days last two weeks, Nights last 48 hours. Extensions may occur if it is deemed necessary.
   
5. Once a player receives half of the votes + 1 they are irrevocably lynched, and the game will go into the night phase
   
6. Votes must be made in one of two approved formats (Vote for other players, not for me):
   

   Code: Select all

   [vote]Zulfy[/vote]
   [b]Vote: Zulfy[/b]

   
   
7. Votes must be on a new line in order to be counted
   
8. If there is no lynch decided by deadline, there will be no lynch for that day
   
9. If a player is not active in the game thread after 48 hours, they will be prodded. After 24 hours of no response once prodded, they will be replaced. After three prods, they will be replaced.
   
10. This color is my color. Do not use my color
    
    
11. You must declare in-thread or PM me if you are going V/LA.
    
12. Do not use provable randomization.
    
13. Don't post once you're dead, unless you want to tell a quick joke.

Example VT PM

Welcome [player]!
You are a

vanilla townie

, you have no special abilities.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one townie left.
Good luck!

Spoiler: Living players

1. toolenduso
   
   
2. 
   
3. 
   
4. 
   
5. Robert2424
   TheOtherFiction
   Ircher
   
   
6. Bins
   
   
7. 
   
8. 
   
9. 
   
10. 
    
11. Tyler the Creator
    
    
12. Jaack
    
    

Spoiler: Dead players

heuristically_alone, a

mafia goon.

iraonavp, a

town bodyguard

Desmond_13, a

vanilla townie

.
Zachstralkita, a

vanilla townie

Creature, a

mafia goon.

Jake From State Farm, a

macho town cop

Xyzzy, a

vanilla townie

Dunnstral, a

vanilla townie

Spoiler: Modkilled players

No one.

Votecount 1.15

heuristically_alone (

LYNCH

)

: Keyser, Floof, toolenduso, JFSF, Tyler, Jaack, Dunnstral

iraonavp

: bins

Keyser Söze

: iraonavp

Zachstralkita

:xyzzy, heuristically

Not voting

:Robert2424, Zachstralkita

With 13 alive, 7 have lynched

Game entering "night phase"

note: Floof has requested replacement.

Everyone still alive right now who isn't confirmed was on the Heur wagon.....

[Ircher]

Votecount 2.11

Desmond_13

(LYNCH)

:

Dunnstral, xyzzy

, toolenduso,

Robert2424

, Jaack,

JFSF

xyzzy (L-2)

: Tyler,

Bins, Desmond_13, Zachstralkita

Not Voting

:[Keyser Söze]

With 11 alive, 6 people have lynched lynched

Of course.

Flip incoming.

[Ircher]

Ella hace todo

again?

De todo de todo de todo

Votecount 3.05

Dunnstral (L-2)

:

JFSF

, Jaack,

Creature

Creature(L-2)

Toolenduso,

xyzzy, Dunnstral

xyzzy

: Tyler

Not Voting

:

TheOtherFiction, Bins

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-02 17:20:00)

And we will never be alone again
Cuz it doesn't happen every day
Kinda counted on you being a friend
Can I give it up or give it away

Votecount 3.07

Xyzzy (L-1)

:

Bins

, Tyler, Toolenduso,

Dunnstral

Dunnstral (L-2)

:

JFSF

, Jaack,

Creature

Creature

xyzzy

Not Voting

:

TheOtherFiction

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-02 17:20:00)

Triste final para ti, triste final para mi
olvidarnos mejor será hoy

Votecount 3.09

Creature (L-1)

:

xyzzy, Dunnstral

, Toolenduso,

Bins

Dunnstral (L-2)

:

[JFSF]

, Jaack,

Creature

Xyzzy

: Tyler

Not Voting

:

TheOtherFiction

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-02 17:20:00)

Note: My condolences Jake.

This Votecount counts the vote by Tyler The Creator a couple posts down

Votecount 3.10

Creature (LYNCH)

:

xyzzy, Dunnstral,

Toolenduso,

Bins

Dunnstral (L-2)

: [JFSF], Jaack,

Creature

Xyzzy

: Tyler

Not Voting

: TheOtherFiction

With 9 alive, 5 have lynched

[Ircher]

Votecount 4.02

Jaack (L-2)

:

Dunnstral, xyzzy

xyzzy (L-2)

: Toolenduso, Tyler

Not Voting

:

TheOtherFiction, Bins

, Jaack

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-17 23:22:00)

Votecount 4.03

Jaack (L-1)

:

xyzzy, Dunnstral

, Tyler

xyzzy (L-3)

: Toolenduso

Not Voting

:

TheOtherFiction, Bins

, Jaack

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-17 23:22:00)

Votecount 4.04

Jaack (L-2)

:

xyzzy, Dunnstral

Not Voting

:

TheOtherFiction, Bins

, Jaack, Tyler, Toolenduso

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-17 23:22:00)

Votecount 4.05

Toolenduso

:

xyzzy

xyzzy

: Toolenduso,

Dunnstral

, Jaack,

bins

Not Voting

:

TheOtherFiction

, Tyler,

With 7 alive, 4 have lynched

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-17 23:22:00)

Due to recent events I will be toning down the flavor of this game.

Xyzzy has died though, they were a

vanilla townie

Night 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2016-06-16 19:19:00)

[Ircher]

Some things:

1) For almost all of D4, the Jaack wagon was composed of conf town with both Dunn and Xy on it til the last VC where Dunn compromised on Xy
2) The fact Dun got nk'd is another tell-tale sign. Esp. since there's 2 other conf town.
3) Jaack never voting until the end of D4 where he seems to got on the Xyzzy wagon right before the lynch. I wonder why.....
4) Jack stayed put on the Dunn counterwagon to Creature D3. Granted, Jake was on the wagon too, but so was creature who was scum. Not to mention the wagon existed all of D3.
5) Jaack was on the D2 ML wagon.....

VOTE: Jaack

VCA imo points to Jaack, alongside last night's nk.

[Ircher]

@Bins
Vote Jaack with me.

[Ircher]

A couple things, Ircher:

-The only claim to be aware of at this point is Bins, and you know hers.
-Jaack posted his Tyler stuff toward the end of the last day phase. Should be among the last few posts in his ISO.
-We've had two scum flip goon and Zulfy just confirmed that there's only one scum left, so the last is almost certainly some kind of PR, though we haven't really had anything happen with night actions to indicate what it might be. It won't be an encryptor because Zulfy said at the beginning of the game that scum have daychat.
-HA was pretty obvscum for many reasons by the time he was lynched. Even the people who hopped off his wagon after he claimed doc hopped back on later because he was so scummy.

Also, what was it about the Dunn night kill that points toward Jaack?

No, the last one must be goon since I'm macho, Voyeurs are weak, the BG was like 1-Shot and macho cop really isn't a problem.

[Ircher]

As an fyi, basically all I did was VCA and look through some of Tyler, Bins, and Jaack's posts.

[Ircher]

In case xyzzy is town and I die tonight, you should lynch jaack then tool in that order

And here's the WIFOM statement for fhe nk.....

[Ircher]

imma hammer then

Ok

For the record I'm positive that Bins is town.

I actually feel pretty good about tyler too, and was feeling good about tool

Think it's still in xyzzy/jaack

Yeah, I say we just sheep Dunn's reads, forget the WIFOM surround the NK, and trust the VCA and lynch Jaack.

@Bins
Can you please tell us all your results from each night?

Pedit: Look at it this way:

Mountainous 10:3 win rate for town is like low 20's.
Macho Cop is the only real PR town has, since Voyeur can only confirm a Cop's claim and the Bodyguard is severely weakened. The only thing that tilts this towards town favor really is the fact there are 4 PRs which scum basically have to nk.

Otherwise, the setup is basically 1x Cop + 9T versus 3Swhich is still tilted towards scum.

Scum definitely don't have a Godfather, probably not a RB'r, possibly a JK, and likely just another Goon.

[Ircher]

There's only 2 ways we lose: 1) We lynch the wrong one out of Tyler/Tool in LyLo (Jaack should be lynched today) or 2) Bins is lying about being a Voyeur. If I got Cop inno'd, claimed macho town, and no one else has a PR claim, then setup-wise, you can basically confirm me as town.

Bins is prob. town, but Voyeur is still a possible fakeclaim since we're likely up against 3 goons (the diff Voyeur makes is simply confirmable townies). So, I want to know all of Bins results, but we should consider Bins town too.

[Ircher]

Okay, to reiterate:

1) I'm confirmed town, no doubt about it. I got Cop inno'd (and unless someone else would like to claim PR, there's no way this setup has godfather) AND my predecessor claimed Macho Townie & I am reaffirming that's the case. So, again, unless someone else has a decent pr to counterclaim me (If you claim a weak pr like Fruit Vendor, then you're counterclaiming Bins, not me as there would need to be another strong pr to justify Jake receiving a Cop inno result on me.) Which, I don't think anyoe else is going to be foolish enough to counterclaim me as that's a death sentence. (And if your town and you decide to fakeclaim a counterclaim, you literally cost the game)
2) Bins is also probably confirmed townie. I could see this setup having a Voyeur as easily as I could see it without one. I will assume good faith for now and assume that Bins is town. If you have a minor role like Fruit Vendor, then again, you would be counterclaiming Bins and its basically a death sentence, so again, let's assume Bins is confirmed town too.
3) The VCA highly points towards Jaack as scum
4) The N4 Night kill also suggests Jaack as scum
5) Jaack is just playing the WIFOM card to try to escape a lynch.

Lynch Jaack and call this gg. I'm 93% certain Jaack is the final scum.

[Ircher]

Oh, and if I' m wriong, and town ML's tomorrow, welll, congrats scum --> You deserved it.

But, that's not happening. I am 98% sure we'll win this game; 93% sure we'll win it today.

[Ircher]

1) It's all 1 huge WIFOM kill anyway
2) Both Dunn and my slot articulated scumreads on you, but you thought my slot would've been easier to manipulate.

If your town (which prob. isn't the case), then I'd prob. say Tool, but not definite there. Besides, I'm likely not going to be the one choosing anyway.

[Ircher]

this is like some serious fucking mindgames but i'm gonna go with the fact that

1) dunn was on point
2) i was really wrong so they want me in lylo
3) TOF is super wrong and they don't fear him
4) this is all WIFOM

Likely 1 and 4.

If all the town are wrong rn, and it's Tyler, then it wouldn't matter who is killed.

But Jaack is prob. scum who we should just QLynch before he slips his way out of a lynch.

[Ircher]

Psst... Can we get this Day over with?

I mean, unless anyone has a convincing argument to differ, I think we're best off lynching Jaack today.

[Ircher]

Except that's not possible cuz with the setup as-is, that would 100% tilt the game drastically in scum's favor.

[Ircher]

@Bins
It might help you if you go ahead and vote....

[Ircher]

Think about it this way: the one who hammers has to explain themselves.

[Ircher]

I'm still here, if anyone wants to discuss reasons why NOT to lynch Jaack today.

[Ircher]

Someone hammer pls.

Preferably Bins.

[Ircher]

@Bins
Anything to discuss before Twilight (cuz I'm assuming you'll be hammering?)?

[Ircher]

I would read more if I did end up in LyLo.

I wouldn't vote immediately.

[Ircher]

Ooh, nearly forgot:

What were your other night results?

[Ircher]

Whats your thoughts on the fact that Tyler really isn't participating rn? (Nor is Jaack, tbf, but that's cuz of what will prob. be his impending doom, so he doesn't feel he can do anything and thus has given up)

[Ircher]

UNVOTE:

I'm gonna give Jaack til tomorrow morning to post a defense.

[Ircher]

Votecount 5.04

Jaack

: Toolenduso,

toolenduso

(L-1)

: Jaack, Tyler the Creator

Not voting

: Bins, Ircher

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-07-01 10:06:00)

What even is this?!

[Ircher]

sorry no motivation to play mafia the last couple days

if it is just jaack i'll probably end up feeling pretty silly but im still leaning towards tool

ughh

not even sure why tyler being scum is part of the discussion

dude's town af

Seriously?!

[Ircher]

Ugh....

I would let Bins decide the hammer, but I have my doubts.......

Yeah, I think I'm vetoing the Tool wagon:

VOTE: Tyler - Not impressed with your performance today.

[Ircher]

i wanna lynch tool

but then jaacks last couple posts suck

don't wanna read into the kill too much, dunn wasn't ever getting lynched

Lining up MLs (Tool and Jaack). The reasoning provided for lynching Jaack is kinda bad.

not even sure why tyler being scum is part of the discussion

dude's town af

"Look at me, I'm so obvtown!"

- Indeeed, Tyler scum wouldn't want to be the highlight of the convo, so he tries to get us to kinda ignore him.

here's an idea - we lynch between tyler and tool today

that way we either probably win OR tyler doesn't need to most likely get mislynched by bins in lylo

vote:tool

I'd at this point much rather ML you than ML tool.

After another glance at ISOs, I feel that scum!Tool would be much more deserving of a win than scum!Tyler.
Jaack is meh and I'm kinda divided there.

We all know Bins is not hammering Tool and at this point, nor am I, so someone is gonna have to give.

[Ircher]

Tyler has been tunneling Xyzzy almost the entire game, yet when the Jaack wagon forms, he jumps ship for an L-1 vote (prob. hoping for a hammer.) When Xyzzy is finally lynched, Tyler is notably off the wagon despite being on Xyzzy D2 and all of D3 and some of D4.

[Ircher]

For Tool, he in the matter of 4 VCs makes some switches D3.

First, he's on the Creature wagon then he switches to Xyzzy then he switches back to Creature in 3.09.

Unlike the rest of you, I can see a town reason for the 2nd switch since 3.10 was the hammer (meaning deadline was probably closing in), but I'd still like to know the reasons for this behavior.

[Ircher]

I dunno.

Tyler's more recent posts just look a bit worse then Jaack's.

I'll wait to hear what Bins thinks.

[Ircher]

Well, will you lynch

Dunn

or Jaack tomorrow?

Totally WIFOM I'm bringing up here, but what's the possibility the other is scum? Something to think about, that's all.

[Ircher]

In case xyzzy is town and I die tonight, you should lynch jaack then tool in that order

Looking at this again....

Mini 1755 - After getting lynch D5, my death will was basically Heat is town (Heat had been scumread a lot through the game); Scum ended up killing off Heat as a result. (Too widely townread at that point; I think my death will had a huge impact on that choice.)

So, back to this game, we have the above quote from Dunn. If Tyler is scum, then killing Dun over me is 100% the better move.

But what about Jaack and Tool? What motives do they have for the Dunn kill? Well, Jaack was getting heavily scumread by Dunn, so there's a good possibility.

How about Took? I'm not really sure there -- the best thing I can come up with is WIFOM there.

I think the bigger Q is how often Dunn is correct in his reads as town.

[Ircher]

Don't sleep on the possibility that TOF is actually a godfather.

Why would TOF be a godfather? This seems to be shoehorned in from thinkign I was godfather day 3, but there's actually no reasons for this claim

I gave reasons literally in the following sentence. Furthermore, I'm not accusing him of being GF, I'm just saying that in the future, look out for that possibility. I assumed that Bins was planning on hammering me (based on 2331) so I shared the various thoughts I had that I had not previously shared. TOF being GF was something that popped into my head N3 and it doesn't seem totally unreasonable. If TOF ends up in lylo its certainly something to consider, and I'm not really expecting to live past today, let alone D5, so I might as well mention it now.

Did Jaack truly think TOF could be GF? I mean, it's a really long stretch.....

[Ircher]

I think robert was town regardless and the chances of them being gf who claimed

Macho town

(when the cop was macho as well) is really small

Macho town is a strange roll, as I said before. Robert's claim and the circumstances surrounding the claim is the type of stuff that draws a cop inspection, which is a boon for a hypothetical GF. But I will repeat, I'm not even leaning towards this being likely, just that its a possibility that popped into my head and I wanted to get in into the thread before I get lynched.

I'm pretty sure that no matter what I say or do, xyzzy and myself are going to be the lynches D4 and D5 in some order. I know myself to be town, and I think that xyzzy is town, which leads me to believe there will be a D6. Assuming the last scum doesn't trip all over themselves, lylo will likely consist of tool, tyler, and one of bins/dunn/TOF. I had assumed that TOF, if not the godfather, would be the one to die tonight, because he was the 'most' confirmed of anyone. If it was Bins or Dunn instead, I planned on bringing up the possibility of TOGF tomorrow, but since it looks like I'm not going to make it that far I might as well bring it up now.

This gives a good motive for Jaack to kill Dunn. Unfortunately, it didnt really work out.

[Ircher]

i don't think that if im scum here; systematically shooting all my allies at night would be a thing id do just because 'wifom'

Dead towny reads can be useful.

[Ircher]

Well, gotta go, currently seeing this:

Jake - His hammer looks towny, he already showed intent to hammer Desmond, though, he wasn't overcautious when he wanted to hammer.
Robert - He seemed decently town despite the investigation.
Tyler/Tool - They haven't done anything particularly scummy/indicative, their general motivation looks good so far.
xyzzy - Kind of liked him D1. Haven't done much D2 or D3 to get a read from.
Jaack - Should say, his pushes are pretty terrible.
Bins - I dislike her posts since D1. Her claim is a coincidence, which makes me think she could be some kind of mafia PR.
Dunnstral

Bins

Why you targeted Robert and Dunn?

Feeling pretty confident both scum are on Dunnstral/Jaack/Bins.

Can we lock the game already?

Quite the flip-flop; need to check the votes at this time.

[Ircher]

I'm leaning Jaack again.
VOTE: Jaack (L-1)

[Ircher]

Dun's reads : Dunn didn't say lynch Tyler

[Ircher]

Nice! I win I think!

[Ircher]

The best part was watching Bins in LyLo.

[Ircher]

i wanna see the mod thread....

[Ircher]

wp Bins


If I take one thing away from this game it's Tyler's self ISO


I love you Zulfy

Lololl!!! That was funny too!

Seriously, I think LyLo of this game may be worth nominating for Kodak.... Still got to think on that one tho....

[Ircher]

@Tool - You totally killed the wrong person N5