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Last edited by podoboq on Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.eagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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How so? - What drives you to conclude that.In post 1625, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually nah looking at PP's ISO he looks pretty town in his reaction to my theory.
VOTE: LUV-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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If one flips scum, the other is likely town.In post 1631, Zoronos wrote:Sure... but why Shadowed? Do you think he's scum?
I have been reasonably confident in my town read there...
I'm trying to figure out what you're saying and I'm clearly missing a beat somewhere.<Embrace The Void>
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I don't see how I drastically flipped or hammered like I only live once. I acknowledged in one of the posts you quoted that I probably did go into the deep end with my case on Shadow and that Snake asked/proposed for a no lynch. When I read he asked/proposed for one, doubt started to creep in for me. I'm just not fan of a not lynching on Day 1 for various reasons and the fact that while I thought it was a reaction test, the part of me that thought he was seriously asking and advocating for it kept nagging at me and eventually won out. Also, my case on Shadow was looking like it was never going to be taken seriously, so I decided to pressure my newly found scum read on Snake.In post 1618, boring wrote:Spoiler:
Since I have time for ISO diving, I thought I'd dredge up these gems.
VOTE: LUV
Now, since we have plenty of time before EOD, I'd "luv" it if you could explain how/why you so drastically flipped script with your intent and hammer. From here, it looks like you magically went from suspecting Shadow (while agreeing that there couldn't be two ascetics) to deciding "yolo! I'm going to hammer the other guy". As far as I can tell, all that happened in between was your trip down the rabbit hole with Gamma.
I didn't even hammer right way because again, I was fighting with myself on whether not I believed Snake was town or not once I read he asked for a no lynch. So I declared intent, waited a day, even jokingly hammered, hoping he or someone would convince me not to. Sadly all I got was "Hurry up and hammer already Uzi!" I gave into the pressure and I regret that.-
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Could you explain why you're voting for me again? You mentioned you had some sort of plan for today. What is your plan and am I part of it? Do you want me to help you lynch someone?In post 1625, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually nah looking at PP's ISO he looks pretty town in his reaction to my theory.
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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I'm voting you because I suspect there is scum on each wagon/scum of each opinion. I think you could be the scum of the Shadow wagon. And the plan is to discuss who could be scum on the boring/Eager/Shadow wagons.<Embrace The Void>
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Ah. The thing is though there was never a Shadow wagon. I was only one voting him for the majority of the day until you hopped on for like two minutes but I would hardly call that a wagon.
But I guess I can help with your plan. I'm still scum reading Penguin and I'm null scum on Prism. I believe those two were on the Snake wagon.-
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I don't see how they're related.In post 1632, Gamma Emerald wrote:If one flips scum, the other is likely town.
SS is likely town, regardless of what Penguin flips. What is prompting you to say they're tied together? I guess I'm just not seeing some critical thing in your reasoning.-
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Why is PP town?!?In post 1637, Gamma Emerald wrote:Nah I think Prism is solid town. PP is a townread but if you can point out how his reaction to my idea was not genuine I'll definitely join you there.
Explain this to me like I'm five, because if you are super sure, then I am maybe missing something.-
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He is likely town because his reaction to my theory was "that's interesting". Instantly believing me would have been a scumtell, trying to shut me up may have done so too.In post 1639, Zoronos wrote:
Why is PP town?!?In post 1637, Gamma Emerald wrote:Nah I think Prism is solid town. PP is a townread but if you can point out how his reaction to my idea was not genuine I'll definitely join you there.
Explain this to me like I'm five, because if you are super sure, then I am maybe missing something.<Embrace The Void>
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A lot of things about boring that i thought were scummy seem kind of petty now looking back. I really didn’t like when boring said that MariaR asking if scum have day chat was MariaR shooting for a derp clear (682). I also didn’t like (636) initially because i thought it was a big jump from mild bemusement, to snarky disgust in regards to Eager’s fear vote. I was also really conflicted feeling when she started acting all paranois about me too. I struggled to see the legitimacy behind those comments.
I think the worse thing boring did was that swiftness to vote Eager. Having Eager as second town read then droping him the moment the cc happened. As others have said that was questionable. What more is that boring’s logic of snake being the uncountered Eager being town read was fualty. By which i mean post 1037, if she has a gut scum lean then she wouldn’t be inclined to town read him for his cliam in the first place. Like Eagar would have been a null for my reads if I shared boring feelings not town.
One thing i thought of is that her quickness to move her vote to Eagar after the cc is really hasty for scum. It been a while since i read “Artic mafia”, but i seem to recall scum!boring being more cautious, actively avoiding stances that would burn her. This near sightedness dosen’t looks to scum to me in retrospect.
Or i could just be really bad at reading boring. Anycase I’m not up to lynching her. Null, to put it into words.-
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It isn't an indicator that Gamma is town. It is an indicator that Gamma is... well Gamma.In post 1610, boring wrote:
Gamma does this as town. I can't rule out the possibility that he plays the same as town and as scum. All I have to go on is his town game, and this looks just like his town game.In post 1607, Shadow_step wrote:I think gamma is scum because he was believing any vague stupid theories and voting people for shallow reasons without even thinking about it.
My first newbie game had mostly experienced players by Day 2, and one thing they effectively drilled into my head is that actions are NAI. Motives are all that matters. That's probably why the more experienced players seem to ignore the traditional "tell" lists and VCA.
There's no scum motivation for Gamma to hop around, apply moon logic, weave between his own path and arguments he likes in thread. Especially not with scum daytalk. Either he'd have been instructed to knock it off, or his buddies would be gearing up to bus him for town cred.
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VOTE: Gamma EmeraldIn post 1645, Gamma Emerald wrote:Whatever you're obviously not going to get it.
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