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Post #27 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:51 am
Postby Sobolev Space »
@mod
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In post 0, Aristophanes wrote:1. This game will have public voting with 14 day deadlines until the start of day 3. From then there will be 10 day deadlines.
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Post #35 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:08 am
Postby Sobolev Space »
For what it's worth I was planning on voting GL here like that ever since our last game ended. The vote on me/question to me had no bearing on my first post.
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Post #54 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:21 am
Postby Sobolev Space »
Sure. GL made a bad argument but you seemed to be calling it out in post 38 and later 46 so I felt no need to comment on it, at least until GL responded to you.
In post 28, Aristophanes wrote:You will receive the I Am Error Achievement for this!
(For pointing out a Mod Error). I'll post a list at the end of the game.)
That last closing parenthesis has no corresponding opener.
Achievement earned!!!
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Post #109 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:42 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
In post 97, borkjerfkin wrote:I would indeed expect a scumflip from me to indict rather than clear GL (if anything) for that really abortive interaction
This reads off to me. The sentiment makes sense, but the phrasing is not how I would expect town to put it.
@Fro99er - is your Bella read solely based off 80? I didn't think it was that unreasonable of an inference.
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Post #112 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:36 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
I think starting the hypothetical with a situation that, if you're town, will never happen is what threw me. I would say either "a scumflip from GL would look bad for me" or "I can see how that would look like a scum-scum interaction" or something like that.
My first game I (town) was scumread d1 for similar phrasing so I don't think its super AI, just something to note.
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Post #198 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:18 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
In post 192, Eddie Cane wrote:hey btw idr if I said it in this game or not but assuming I'm still alive i'll be v/LA for most of March. going away for almost 3 weeks. I will have Internet access so I'll still be here but it'll be limited. 7th-25th to be exact. just a heads up.
Don't worry Eddie I'll make sure to get you lynched before that
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Post #199 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:19 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
On a more serious note, I've skimmed through Frog's iso in a couple other games and I'm not seeing this as scum. His play in Mini 1734 (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=63822) reminds me a lot of his this game (although I haven't read it too in depth). Null for now.
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Post #229 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:57 am
Postby Sobolev Space »
If I had seen that in past town games Frogger played substantially different than this game I would have scum read him. Since I didn't see that I decided his activity was NAI so far and just a style I wasn't used to. I recognize he acts this way as town and scum, that's why he's null.
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Post #231 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:03 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
Questions in 209, especially the last one, seemed pointless
In post 208, GuiltyLion wrote:the strong SS townread seems unnatural to come from scum - I don't think SS has done anything especially obvtown this game to force a TR, and I would expect scum to try to keep her mislynchable if she's town.
"I don't understand why TTTT is strongly TR-ing SS so he's probably town"
In post 213, GuiltyLion wrote:see I generally agree with this, but I don't think SS would be the townie that TTTT would do that with. She's been pretty low key and under the radar. There's no lynch to strongly direct away, and there's no massive SS presence that needs to be buddied/pocketed/townread.
How on earth would scum town reading some rando direct away a lynch? Who do you think scum would choose to fake TR instead of me?
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Post #310 (isolation #31) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:51 am
Postby Sobolev Space »
@Eddie - if you want more content from me ask me questions. I've been trying to keep my reads closer to my chest than in previous games (for various reasons) but I'm still happy to work with y'all if you think I haven't been providing enough info.
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Post #311 (isolation #32) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:52 am
Postby Sobolev Space »
Haha thanks Bork I was about to post just that about 229. I didn't say I didn't see his behavior as scum, I said I didn't see it as scummy. Not scummy != towny.
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Post #329 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:05 am
Postby Sobolev Space »
I don't know. I want to see SBF's response to our questions about her Eddie read before making a full judgement, but I have a moderate scumread on her and think that lynch would do the least damage to town.
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Post #339 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:22 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
In post 336, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:Cane's opening was, as I see it, a reaction test. Scum love easy targets, and giving one to them is a very effective way to hunt.
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Post #348 (isolation #41) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:39 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
My opinion on SBF's last post? I disagree with almost all of the points but am unsure if it's scum motivated. I want SBF to offer content or interact with more than just me/GL/Eddie. There is some odd stuff in the post (see my 339).
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Post #432 (isolation #46) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:00 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
Still busy but wanted to comment on this:
In post 397, Fro99er wrote:Not sure this has to be a 1v1 but I kinda think this might actually be towny from Lowell. Scum typically don't show this bravado around a 1v1 unless it's with their scumbuddy for scum theater.
I had the same initial impression of this post but given the aftermath I'm not so sure. He made the post with 7(?) days left until deadline so I think an experienced scum would be able to read the mood and figure that town wasn't going to immediately pick sides.
Unsure what to make of Lowell's recent posts which repeat the sentiment however.
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Post #548 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:36 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
In post 526, Eddie Cane wrote:thoughts on my case against frogger? any other game thoughts?
You v Frogger looks TvT. Given the content of your arguments I'd say its largely a clash of playstyles. I disagree with both of your cases but can see them coming from a town mindset.
In post 285, Bellaphant wrote:eddie's is almost worse, 32 posts of...not a lot. he's quoted two short isos, which seems sketch, and there's not a lot of meat to anything.
Bella why didn't you follow up on this if it's almost worse than T?
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Post #655 (isolation #59) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:36 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
@Eddie - down for an SBF lynch? If you'd like I can go more through her ISO and explain the scumread in depth but you seem to have a TR on her so I'm unsure if you'd want to join in.
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Post #656 (isolation #60) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:37 pm
Postby Sobolev Space »
@GL - it was my impression that the Bella wagon appeared when town started coalescing around a Lowell lynch but I could be misreading this. Seems a little suspicious.