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Post Post #27 (isolation #0) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:45 pm

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In post 19, hiplop wrote:ya im scum plz let me win
VOTE: hiplop

See scumclaim... vote scumclaim.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #1) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:01 pm

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In post 33, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 30, KuroiXHF wrote:Great. Why don't you out the rest of our scum team, why don't you?

You're not going to tell them about House are you?

...shit!
Now that you mention it, you and House look eerily similar, judging by your avatars. :shifty:
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Post Post #63 (isolation #2) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:50 am

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In post 61, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 60, karnos wrote:
In post 22, Smithereens wrote: How did you know he's new? Scum slip of information much.
I told him to signup. Where do I collect my $100 incentive for bringing a new player over?
Wow. What a jerk.

VOTE: Smithereens
Being a jerk doesn't make one scum. Town can be jerks, too.

Do you have a legitimate reason for your vote?
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Post Post #70 (isolation #3) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:46 am

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In post 62, pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: chip butty
Which of his two posts read scummy to you and why?
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Post Post #76 (isolation #4) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:29 am

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In post 75, Bellaphant wrote:House might be town
You based this on four posts... what of those posts make you think i might be town?
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Post Post #79 (isolation #5) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:43 am

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In post 78, karnos wrote:Scum are going to scum hunt this game, if they want to win. Being detail oriented has payoffs for everyone.
This is true. Being multiball, scum has every reason to find the opposing faction.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #6) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:57 pm

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In post 113, LicketyQuickety wrote:These are all the posts that are not just trolly garbage posts that you have made:
In post 72, KuroiXHF wrote:DixC voted me for pretending to be mafia. He never said I was mafia.
Semantics.
Not semantics when there are opposing scum factions of different varieties.

For example, why not werewolves? Why not the generic term, scum? Why specifically "mafia"?

It's a legitimate point.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:01 pm

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Actually, I think Kuroi used the generic term scum and DixC specified mafia.

Why mafia, DixC?

VOTE: DixC
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Post Post #118 (isolation #8) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:13 pm

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In post 117, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 115, House wrote:
In post 113, LicketyQuickety wrote:These are all the posts that are not just trolly garbage posts that you have made:
In post 72, KuroiXHF wrote:DixC voted me for pretending to be mafia. He never said I was mafia.
Semantics.
Not semantics when there are opposing scum factions of different varieties.

For example,
why not werewolves?
Why not the generic term, scum? Why specifically "mafia"?

It's a legitimate point.
Because people make mistakes early on when it comes to talking about a game where Mafia are far more common than WW.
Still doesn't address why he chose mafia over scum.

One way to explain that is he knew Kuroi was pretending because he, himself, is mafia.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #9) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:07 pm

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In post 119, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 118, House wrote:
In post 117, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 115, House wrote:
In post 113, LicketyQuickety wrote:These are all the posts that are not just trolly garbage posts that you have made:
In post 72, KuroiXHF wrote:DixC voted me for pretending to be mafia. He never said I was mafia.
Semantics.
Not semantics when there are opposing scum factions of different varieties.

For example,
why not werewolves?
Why not the generic term, scum? Why specifically "mafia"?

It's a legitimate point.
Because people make mistakes early on when it comes to talking about a game where Mafia are far more common than WW.
Still doesn't address why he chose mafia over scum.

One way to explain that is he knew Kuroi was pretending because he, himself, is mafia.
Mafia pretty much as common as Town in this game. That's another possible explanation.
Really? Are there multiple town factions that I somehow missed?
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Post Post #122 (isolation #10) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:17 pm

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In post 121, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 120, House wrote:
In post 119, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 118, House wrote:
In post 117, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 115, House wrote:
In post 113, LicketyQuickety wrote:These are all the posts that are not just trolly garbage posts that you have made:
In post 72, KuroiXHF wrote:DixC voted me for pretending to be mafia. He never said I was mafia.
Semantics.
Not semantics when there are opposing scum factions of different varieties.

For example,
why not werewolves?
Why not the generic term, scum? Why specifically "mafia"?

It's a legitimate point.
Because people make mistakes early on when it comes to talking about a game where Mafia are far more common than WW.
Still doesn't address why he chose mafia over scum.

One way to explain that is he knew Kuroi was pretending because he, himself, is mafia.
Mafia pretty much as common as Town in this game. That's another possible explanation.
Really? Are there multiple town factions that I somehow missed?
Uhg. Do you really have to make this comment?

I meant in the game of mafia Town faction is just about as common as Mafia faction.
And it's pretty much irrelevant considering the discussion is about mafia factions, of which there are more than one in this game.

Not town factions, of which there is only one, period.

Did you have some sort of tangible point to make, or are you arguing just to be difficult?
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Post Post #124 (isolation #11) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:26 pm

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In post 123, LicketyQuickety wrote:You yourself in this post refer to Mafia as being two different mafia teams when the correct term to use would be Mafia and Werewolf. See my point now?
Eh, that's fair.

UNVOTE:
In post 105, KuroiXHF wrote:You said it was a false premise. That's it. You're doing something the same way a NASCAR driver going 25 MPH is doing something.

You're not doing good enough.

And at this point, I don't believe you're town.

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

I disagree.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #12) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:14 pm

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In post 130, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: LQ

@Bella the exchange between House and Lickety last page... Scum theatre? By which I mean do you think they could be of the same faction?
Why do you suspect we'd be scum of the same faction, specifically? Is it because neither one of us share your scum PT?
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Post Post #134 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:44 pm

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In post 133, JaeReed wrote:
In post 132, House wrote:
In post 130, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: LQ

@Bella the exchange between House and Lickety last page... Scum theatre? By which I mean do you think they could be of the same faction?
Why do you suspect we'd be scum of the same faction, specifically? Is it because neither one of us share your scum PT?
Funny. Because that seemed staged to me. Hence "scum theatre". You weren't the one I was asking, either. If I wanted your snark I would have said something like "hey house find something inane to make a jab at me for".
Right, we coordinated an argument pregame, you know... before I actually replaced in.

You're so samrt.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #14) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:51 pm

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In post 135, JaeReed wrote:
In post 134, House wrote:
In post 133, JaeReed wrote:
In post 132, House wrote:
In post 130, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: LQ

@Bella the exchange between House and Lickety last page... Scum theatre? By which I mean do you think they could be of the same faction?
Why do you suspect we'd be scum of the same faction, specifically? Is it because neither one of us share your scum PT?
Funny. Because that seemed staged to me. Hence "scum theatre". You weren't the one I was asking, either. If I wanted your snark I would have said something like "hey house find something inane to make a jab at me for".
Right, we coordinated an argument pregame, you know... before I actually replaced in.

You're so samrt.
Staged /= pregame co-ordinated.

I'm obviously not smart if I have to defer to another player for an opinion. Still haven't asked yours and this exchange is pointless. Feel free to keep jabbing. I'm too tired to respond anyway and I don't wanna clog this up more.
So if we didn't coordinate it pregame, how else could we have "staged it"?

Go on... I'll wait.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #15) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:09 pm

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In post 148, JaeReed wrote:I was thinking that because you both know each other is your scumbuddy it was a heads up from LQ to unvote and drop that line of reasoning to free yourself up to try to push a Ranger lynch.
So, where's my Ranger push, then?
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Post Post #154 (isolation #16) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:11 pm

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In post 149, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 70, House wrote:
In post 62, pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: chip butty
Which of his two posts read scummy to you and why?
Neither. It was a random placeholder RVS vote. I picked him because his name stood out.

You're trying too hard.

VOTE: house
RVS was over before your post, so I don't buy your bullshit excuse.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #17) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:26 am

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In post 157, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 132, House wrote:
In post 130, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: LQ

@Bella the exchange between House and Lickety last page... Scum theatre? By which I mean do you think they could be of the same faction?
Why do you suspect we'd be scum of the same faction, specifically? Is it because neither one of us share your scum PT?
This worries me a bit. Obviously, only scum from the same faction could stage theater, since scum from different factions would be unknown to each other at this point. Sketchy attempt to throw shade on Jae?
Obviously I couldn't stage theatre with anyone even if I
were
scum, considering I replaced in after the game started.

So yes, I'm throwing Jae's accusation back in their face because it was a stupid premise.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #18) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:39 am

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In post 159, JaeReed wrote:Actually, it was a question to Bella. Not an accusation to you.

And yes, you certainly could stage theatre with someone without use of scum chat for it. All it takes is you both knowing you're buddies and need to distance. I don't see why you think you need scum chat for that. I also did say that it could have been that you're not of the same faction and he's peeling you off his partner.

Point is though, it wasn't a question to you but you were eager to attempt to shut it down so I couldn't get the opinion of the person I wanted. If it's that stupid then why bother before you see what the other person's response is?
Your theory is reckless. It takes far too much blind trust in another person's ability.

If somebody throws out a stupid idea, I'll call them on it whether their post is targeted at me or not.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #19) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:43 am

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In post 161, Chip Butty wrote:For the sake of argument, let's say that scum CAN stage conversations even without Daytalk. This brings us back to your question about why Jae assumed staging to be between scum of the same faction. If staging IS possible, it is obvious it can only be between scum of the same faction, right?
You can manipulate data to say what you want, but it doesn't change reality.

Let's say for the sake of argument that 3 = 100

3+2 = 102, right?

No. 3=3 and it's 5.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #20) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:34 am

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Not agreeing with a faulty premise does not make me evasive, it makes me logical.

Twist shit any way you want to, you're not going to make me think 3+2=102.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #21) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:23 am

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In post 170, hiplop wrote:I really think house is scum
I really don't care what you think.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #22) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:50 am

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In post 175, hiplop wrote:VOTE: jaE

Hey hey
If I'm scum, why is your vote not on me?
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Post Post #196 (isolation #23) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:25 pm

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In post 194, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 154, House wrote:
In post 149, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 70, House wrote:
In post 62, pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: chip butty
Which of his two posts read scummy to you and why?
Neither. It was a random placeholder RVS vote. I picked him because his name stood out.

You're trying too hard.

VOTE: house
RVS was over before your post, so I don't buy your bullshit excuse.
It was the first post I made. That's what I do when I start any game. I vote for a random player.
Bullshit.

Rvs is rvs. When it's over, it's over. Trying to drag the game back into rvs when there is content to discuss is scummy as fuck.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:01 am

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In post 153, House wrote:
In post 148, JaeReed wrote:I was thinking that because you both know each other is your scumbuddy it was a heads up from LQ to unvote and drop that line of reasoning to free yourself up to try to push a Ranger lynch.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #25) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:33 am

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In post 202, JaeReed wrote:
In post 198, House wrote:
In post 153, House wrote:
In post 148, JaeReed wrote:I was thinking that because you both know each other is your scumbuddy it was a heads up from LQ to unvote and drop that line of reasoning to free yourself up to try to push a Ranger lynch.
So, where's my Ranger push, then?
Sorry I thought I responded to this. Originally yes I thought you could be aligned with LQ. Given the rebuttal by Bella and the fact that LQ peeled you off DixC, I have doubts that you could be aligned with him.

I'll admit you haven't pushed on Ranger like I originally thought you were freeing yourself up to do.
Isn't this where you're supposed to say that I didn't push her because you called me out on it?
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Post Post #209 (isolation #26) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:17 am

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In post 177, House wrote:
In post 175, hiplop wrote:VOTE: jaE

Hey hey
If I'm scum, why is your vote not on me?
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Post Post #221 (isolation #27) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:09 am

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Kinda agree with the horribleness oh that post, actually.

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Post Post #236 (isolation #28) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:18 pm

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In post 218, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 217, Kop wrote:I think I'm pretty much up to here. Hiplop is the wagon I'd like to join the most.

House I'm reading quite high up in the town reads, along with chip butty. Ranger, slight town read, along with almost, bella. Everyone else is pretty much at null till I start looking through ISOs properly.

Scum theatre can be done without actually planning it before hand, but for that to happen, it would actually require the other person to be experienced enough to see out that it's theatre and play along with it. If the other person isn't as experienced enough, it would actually either take a little bit doing to make it less obvious that it's being setup, so I actually don't think it's scum theatre. If House flips scum, then it could be worth while looking back on it, but I have a town read on House, so I don't think it's a case I'll be looking back on.

VOTE: Hiplop

Its a weird game plan of his, and the stance he has took, doesn't necessarily add up. You really need to explain your mindset towards what you've stated, so a better understanding can be met.
you are voting Hilop because you don't understand their play. I am undecided on HipLop, but gun to my head I think they are Town. HipLop is playing on a higher level than you, that is why you are Scum reading them.
1) hiplop hasn't really impressed me as a player deserving of such flattery.

2) The game I've played with Kop, I was scum and he was a threat to my team. So much so that we killed him even though he was lurkish over his chattier Mason partner.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #29) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:20 pm

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Post Post #249 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:15 am

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In post 247, Creature wrote:Okay, I am here.

I am against LQ wagon.
Is that so?

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Post Post #266 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:37 am

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In post 258, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Terrible vote.
Lol.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #32) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:41 am

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In post 177, House wrote:
In post 175, hiplop wrote:VOTE: jaE

Hey hey
If I'm scum, why is your vote not on me?
Also,

UNVOTE:

Towny lynch response.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #33) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:43 am

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In post 269, Charloux wrote:That didn't come out right... My point is, we all suck for bullying him so much!
I don't. I got what I wanted out of it.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #34) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:44 am

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In post 271, KuroiXHF wrote:I'm pretty sure LQ is already lynched.
I was already on the wagon when I "hammered".
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Post Post #275 (isolation #35) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:47 am

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Much lulz were had.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #36) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:49 am

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In post 259, Charloux wrote:@LQ: You look really stupid right now :lol:
Hate the game not the gamers.
@Charloux:

You look like gloating scum.

VOTE: Charloux
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Post Post #277 (isolation #37) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:50 am

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In post 262, Charloux wrote:Just take a day off and cool down. Blind rage never helped anyone.
UNVOTE: LQ. There, L-2
Oh, you knew my gambit. Gotcha.

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Post Post #279 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:09 am

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In post 278, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 272, House wrote:
In post 271, KuroiXHF wrote:I'm pretty sure LQ is already lynched.
I was already on the wagon when I "hammered".
Huh. Fooled me.
I thought you were playing along. Not crazy about your response if you thought it was a real hammer.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:50 am

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In post 280, Bellaphant wrote:....can you explain how that was a townie reaction to a hammer?

like, charl looks terrible and is prolly scum, but I'm still down for lynching lq.
I don't see scum really get pissed off after a hammer the way LQ was. I don't really give a shot about any "so what, scum can fake blah blah blah" go-to bullshit that people always fall back on when they're stuck in their confbias.

I'll ask you what I'm still asking hiplop about me... if Charloux is scum, why aren't you voting them?
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Post Post #303 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:44 pm

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In post 298, Chip Butty wrote:On the other hand, when the temper display is a first response, it DOES look pretty bad - I think Town will resort to reason first and persist with that for a long while, but might finally get frustrated.
There is no reason to appeal to when you come back to the game to find yourself hammered. :roll:
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Post Post #305 (isolation #41) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:45 pm

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In post 301, Chip Butty wrote:Also, scum are afraid of being detected, and that fear can lead to anger. Town have a clear conscience.
Again, there is nothing more to fear after you see a hammer.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #42) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:10 pm

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I'm really liking Chip Buddy and Smithereens as town.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #43) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:18 pm

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In post 335, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 334, House wrote:I'm really liking Chip Buddy and Smithereens as town.
What do you think of Jae?
Still deciding.
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Post Post #337 (isolation #44) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:07 pm

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In post 189, JaeReed wrote:
In post 175, hiplop wrote:VOTE: jaE

Hey hey
Hey hey :P Jury's still out on you, mate. Don't know what a non scum IC hippylop looks like yet. Don't have anything specifically I want to prod you about at this stage. Sorry for asking Bella and not you but I have a feeling she's townish <3 You can still try to IC me if you like! My trust for you right now is comparable to my thoughts on how good you are at CSing ;)
Maybe I've been out of the game too long.

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Post Post #338 (isolation #45) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:10 pm

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In post 206, JaeReed wrote:I know that I tend towards disliking your style of scumhunting as town from reading games where you were town in. I tend to scumread you when you're town anyway, so it's hard for me to judge your alignment.
Which games of mine have you read?
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Post Post #339 (isolation #46) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:14 pm

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In post 206, JaeReed wrote:??

If I wanted to confbias sure.
Paranoid of confbias here...
In post 208, JaeReed wrote:
In post 205, Bellaphant wrote:Haha yeah, tbf ranger's put me low on her town reads when I'm town when she's town and scum, though! So it isn't indicative of much.

I'd've rather been scum with you. I'm still not sure you aren't.

Lq's defense to me was 'creature is scum bc of ongoing and ongoings is why ranger thinks i'm scum' which was...weird.
Is that admittance to being scum and thinking I'm on the other team? :P
Joking around with confbias here.

Two different mindsets over the same subject (confbias) reads as disingenuous to me.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #47) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:17 pm

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In post 287, JaeReed wrote:
In post 284, Charloux wrote:
In post 280, Bellaphant wrote: like, charl looks terrible and is prolly scum, but I'm still down for lynching lq.
Explain the logic of not voting for prolly scum, but rather for LQ? Or you don't really care who gets lynched?
She's voting definite scum rather than probable scum. She's gotta care who gets lynched no matter her alignment. What you brought up is a null point and a misrep.

Don't think it was intentional, just saying read the posts :p
If it's a misrep, by definition it isn't null. Are you coaching?
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Post Post #414 (isolation #48) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:16 am

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In post 412, Creature wrote:Town reads:
Chip Butty
House (him fishing a reaction looks town)
JaeReed
karnos
KuroiXHF (gut feeling)
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Explain your Jae read please. He's coming across scummy as hell to me.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #49) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:29 pm

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In post 426, KuroiXHF wrote:Weren't you just complaining about confirm bias? You're doing the exact same thing, except confirm biasing as town.
See what I'm saying??
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Post Post #462 (isolation #50) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:32 pm

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In post 441, Creature wrote:
In post 440, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 439, Creature wrote:
In post 437, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 434, Creature wrote:
In post 432, LicketyQuickety wrote:You are not setting traps
Harder to do here.
or being active
I wanted to see this going on for a while.
or being confident in your towniness.
I am confident but I don't need to post every post I am town.
Now you are poking holes in my arguments which you didn't do once in the Newbie game, you just sorta stated things there because you knew you were Town.
In the newbie game, is this newbie?
Explain the difference. Why should methods change from a newbie to a game like this?
Most of my methods hasn't changed, but this is a 17-player game rather than 9-player game, so some of my methods must've changed.
"must have"? Not "did"? Not explaining how, which ones, and why?

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Post Post #463 (isolation #51) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:39 pm

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In post 461, Not_Mafia wrote:Hey House, who's scum?
I'm not giving you people to call town out of spite. :P
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Post Post #541 (isolation #52) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:10 am

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In post 540, Almost50 wrote:
In post 523, JaeReed wrote:What happens if scum try to shoot the same person at night? Does the kill get cancelled or does it go through?
It goes through. A shot does not cancel another shot. However, if they both shoot someone protected by a doctor they both fail.
Not according to the wiki.
A Doctor is a role that targets a player at Night to protect that player from a single kill made during that Night. They are not told if their protection was successful. Protection from a single kill means that if multiple players try to kill someone, they will not be saved by one Doctor's protection.
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Post Post #546 (isolation #53) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:12 am

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Chip you make far too many assumptions about what I and don't know.

I saw an inaccuracy about a role; I corrected it.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. - Sigmund Freud
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Post Post #548 (isolation #54) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:33 am

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In post 547, Chip Butty wrote:...but most of the time it is a symbolic penis - also Sigmund Freud (probably)
No shit Sherlock. That's what makes my quote salient to my point.
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Post Post #551 (isolation #55) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:49 am

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In post 550, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 548, House wrote:
In post 547, Chip Butty wrote:...but most of the time it is a symbolic penis - also Sigmund Freud (probably)
No shit Sherlock. That's what makes my quote salient to my point.
So, are you saying your Townslip is a cigar or a penis? I'm getting confused...
I'm saying my post is simply a correction of a faulty assumption.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #56) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:50 am

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Metaphors aren't your strong suit, Chip.
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Post Post #562 (isolation #57) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:31 pm

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In post 561, Ranger wrote:
pistachi0n wrote:still, why are you so emphatic that you're dead?
I dunno, it's a subject in the thread so it's a subject I talked about?

I'm pretty sure I wasn't the one who started the discussion.
Where was it mentioned before you brought it up, though?
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Post Post #565 (isolation #58) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:55 pm

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In post 564, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 562, House wrote: Where was it mentioned before you brought it up, though?
Jae,
So her protege, who herself admits a lack of competence, makes a worshipful comment (Ranger is so mega-awesome that scum always kills her at the first opportunity), and Town!Ranger runs with it as gospel?

Why wouldn't she point out games where she didn't die n1 to dispel the notion and reduce the threatening nature of her play to scum if she was town? Wouldn't that increase her odds of impacting the game more than saying "You best kill me or I'm gonna gotcha!"?

This could easily be seen as drawing the night kill from the other faction (and being protected by the doc) in order to minimize losing a member of her own team.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #59) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:06 am

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In post 566, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 546, House wrote:Chip you make far too many assumptions about what I and don't know.
Really? Can you list them, please?

Are you saying you really weren't aware there are no Town Docs in this game? It just seems odd that you wouldn't comment on that when you are quoting from the wiki about how Docs work.
I don't often play open games, so no I didn't know what was in play.

I typically enjoy trying to figure out the setup more than having concrete roles. There are exceptions, but it's generally because they have interesting mechanics.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #60) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:35 am

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In post 568, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2, Rob14 wrote:
Setup information:


*Mafia Goon
*Mafia Godfather
*Mafia Doctor
*Werewolf Goon
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*Werewolf Doctor
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In post 566, Chip Butty wrote:
Are you saying you really weren't aware there are no Town Docs in this game? It just seems odd that you wouldn't comment on that when you are quoting from the wiki about how Docs work.
I don't often play open games, so no I didn't know what was in play.
Really? That's the way you want to go on this? You didn't know what roles were in play?
Yep, and you paying the setup doesn't change the fact that I didn't bother reading it before i responded to the faulty assumption about doctors.

I don't know why you're so bothered by ignorance, considering you have your fair share.
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Post Post #571 (isolation #61) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:35 am

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In post 570, House wrote:
In post 568, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2, Rob14 wrote:
Setup information:


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In post 566, Chip Butty wrote:
Are you saying you really weren't aware there are no Town Docs in this game? It just seems odd that you wouldn't comment on that when you are quoting from the wiki about how Docs work.
I don't often play open games, so no I didn't know what was in play.
Really? That's the way you want to go on this? You didn't know what roles were in play?
Yep, and you
paying
posting the setup doesn't change the fact that I didn't bother reading it before i responded to the faulty assumption about doctors.

I don't know why you're so bothered by ignorance, considering you have your fair share.
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Post Post #572 (isolation #62) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:37 am

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In post 569, Chip Butty wrote:VOTE: HOUSE

There you go, House,
M.D.
And your vote is disingenuous, because you'd have done the same thing if I said I did know what the setup was, having caught me in a lie.

Confbias moar.
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Post Post #580 (isolation #63) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:14 am

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In post 574, Chip Butty wrote:"I knew there was no Town Doc, but I didn't see any need to mention that, because I made the ENTIRELY REASONABLE ASSUMPTION that everyone would have read the HIGHLY PROMINENT LIST OF ROLES in #2"
That would have been a lie, because I don't read wall posts outside of actual reads lists.

Ever.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #64) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:16 am

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In post 577, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 570, House wrote: I don't know why you're so bothered by ignorance, considering you have your fair share.
That looks a bit angry. Have I touched a nerve here?

And what ignorance on my part do you refer to, specifically?
Stupidity does touch a nerve with me.

What ignorance specifically? Refer to post 580.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #65) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:27 am

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In post 567, House wrote:I don't often play open games, so no I didn't know what was in play.
My last Open was over a year ago.

Verbose posts just make me autoscroll regardless of who wrote them, because the rules for mafia games outside of those with specialized mechanics are Xeroxed from thread to thread.

This whole line of questioning is ridiculous.
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Post Post #586 (isolation #66) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:28 am

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In post 583, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 581, House wrote:
In post 577, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 570, House wrote: I don't know why you're so bothered by ignorance, considering you have your fair share.
That looks a bit angry. Have I touched a nerve here?

And what ignorance on my part do you refer to, specifically?
Stupidity does touch a nerve with me.

What ignorance specifically? Refer to post 580.
#580, and the post it quotes - #574 - both come AFTER your accusation of ignorance, in #570. Can you give me an example of my "ignorance" pre-#570?
This goes to my accusation of your stupidity.

The fact I pointed out your ignorance after you asked what you were ignorant about doesn't change the fact you were ignorant, you fucking brainpan.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #67) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:03 am

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In post 589, Bellaphant wrote:Catching up with this tomorrow. House, did you not wanna vote ranger after the last page?
On d1? Not particularly.

I could be paranoid there, especially with her fawning little lamb trotting along behind her.

I've been away from the site for around a year, and I'm not familiar enough with her play to call shenanigans on such self-aggrandizement with any amount of certainty. It just seems rather exaggerated, because she doesn't strike me as particularly swift compared to players such mastin and Wisdom, who can often read me within a post or two.

I do know her reads aren't perfect, but hey it's d1, who's reads CAN be?
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Post Post #592 (isolation #68) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:21 am

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In post 591, KuroiXHF wrote:I've noticed your play style is a lot like mine.
Gee, I haven't noticed. :roll:
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Post Post #600 (isolation #69) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:43 am

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In post 593, hiplop wrote:
In post 590, House wrote:I've been away from the site for around a year, and I'm not familiar enough with her play to call shenanigans on such self-aggrandizement with any amount of certainty. It just seems rather exaggerated, because she doesn't strike me as particularly swift compared to players such mastin and Wisdom, who can often read me within a post or two.
this post made me lol
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Post Post #601 (isolation #70) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:45 am

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Those are big shoes to fill, so I am skeptical of people who pat themselves on the back if they aren't looking like that.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #71) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:32 pm

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In post 616, DixC wrote:
In post 614, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: DixC
Just a big nothing vote; cute.

LQ doesn't consolidation make it easier for a bad kill to happen?
Why wouldn't town say lynch in this scenario?

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Post Post #620 (isolation #72) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:45 pm

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In post 619, Ranger wrote:
House wrote:I do know her reads aren't perfect, but hey it's d1, who's reads CAN be?
Where does your confidence in my competence come from?
You seem to be having trouble with context.

I am skeptical that you are as good as you claim, but I'm extending you the benefit of the doubt because I've been away for a while.
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Post Post #626 (isolation #73) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:56 am

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In post 622, Ranger wrote:
House wrote:I am skeptical that you are as good as you claim, but I'm extending you the benefit of the doubt because I've been away for a while.
And I'm asking why you're giving the benefit of the doubt in the first place.
Because I'd like it to be true, but that doesn't mean I'm giving you a free pass.

It costs town nothing to let you live today on the chance you're actually worth what you think. If you are, you'll be scum's problem to take care of.

This shouldn't surprise you if you actually read the game I linked earlier. I had a similar outlook about Pine, but it was based on personal experience. He turned out to be scum, though.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #74) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:19 am

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In post 627, JaeReed wrote:
In post 626, House wrote:
In post 622, Ranger wrote:
House wrote:I am skeptical that you are as good as you claim, but I'm extending you the benefit of the doubt because I've been away for a while.
And I'm asking why you're giving the benefit of the doubt in the first place.
Because I'd like it to be true, but that doesn't mean I'm giving you a free pass.

It costs town nothing to let you live today on the chance you're actually worth what you think. If you are, you'll be scum's problem to take care of.

This shouldn't surprise you if you actually read the game I linked earlier. I had a similar outlook about Pine, but it was based on personal experience. He turned out to be scum, though.
Did you miss the part where she said she doesn't go into other games? You know... Where I specifically asked her.
Makes me less likely to believe she's as good as she thinks she is. mastin and Wisdom both use their experience or knowledge of others from other games to read players.

So Ranger, why are you such a threat to scum if you have no interest in a player's overall playstyle and habits?
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Post Post #638 (isolation #75) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:01 am

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In post 631, JaeReed wrote:
In post 630, House wrote:
In post 627, JaeReed wrote:
In post 626, House wrote:
In post 622, Ranger wrote:
House wrote:I am skeptical that you are as good as you claim, but I'm extending you the benefit of the doubt because I've been away for a while.
And I'm asking why you're giving the benefit of the doubt in the first place.
Because I'd like it to be true, but that doesn't mean I'm giving you a free pass.

It costs town nothing to let you live today on the chance you're actually worth what you think. If you are, you'll be scum's problem to take care of.

This shouldn't surprise you if you actually read the game I linked earlier. I had a similar outlook about Pine, but it was based on personal experience. He turned out to be scum, though.
Did you miss the part where she said she doesn't go into other games? You know... Where I specifically asked her.
Makes me less likely to believe she's as good as she thinks she is. mastin and Wisdom both use their experience or knowledge of others from other games to read players.

So Ranger, why are you such a threat to scum if you have no interest in a player's overall playstyle and habits?
Not what was said. She uses her own experience to my knowledge. You have this annoying habit of twisting words into what you want them to be.
Not trusting shit. Experience with and knowledge of are two entirely different things.

Knowledge of another person's playstyle comes from researching their games.

If it was all the same thing, knowledge and experience would be reDUHndant.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #76) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:03 am

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Not twisting*. Stupid autocorrect.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #77) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:56 am

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In post 650, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 630, House wrote:
Makes me less likely to believe she's as good as she thinks she is. mastin and Wisdom both use their experience or knowledge of others from other games to read players.

So Ranger, why are you such a threat to scum if you have no interest in a player's overall playstyle a
nd habits?
Please explain how all this focus on Ranger's purported abilities is helping find scum.
Ask Jae, King of Confbias.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #78) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:59 am

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In post 653, House wrote:
In post 650, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 630, House wrote:
Makes me less likely to believe she's as good as she thinks she is. mastin and Wisdom both use their experience or knowledge of others from other games to read players.

So Ranger, why are you such a threat to scum if you have no interest in a player's overall playstyle a
nd habits?
Please explain how all this focus on Ranger's purported abilities is helping find scum.
Ask Jae, King of Confbias.
I mean seriously... it's not like I dredged Ranger up out of the blue over and over.

I was answering fucking questions, you assclown.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #79) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:49 am

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In post 656, Bellaphant wrote:(house and jae might be town
You've been town leaning me for a long time, but I don't recall you ever saying why.

Enlighten me?
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Post Post #659 (isolation #80) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:51 am

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In post 77, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 70, House wrote:
In post 62, pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: chip butty
Which of his two posts read scummy to you and why?
ironically, this. it seems detail orientated in a way that is a pointless thing for scum to poke at right now.
I mean, I remember this post and all, but is this all there is to it?
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Post Post #663 (isolation #81) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:34 am

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In post 660, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 658, House wrote:
In post 656, Bellaphant wrote:(house and jae might be town
You've been town leaning me for a long time, but I don't recall you ever saying why.

Enlighten me?
You are you always around when I am around?
What is this about?
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Post Post #673 (isolation #82) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:55 am

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In post 664, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 663, House wrote:
In post 660, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 658, House wrote:
In post 656, Bellaphant wrote:(house and jae might be town
You've been town leaning me for a long time, but I don't recall you ever saying why.

Enlighten me?
You are you always around when I am around?
What is this about?
you have made a post directly after me many times in this game. I can't help but feel you may be doing this on purpose. Why would you do that?
Clearly, I'm stalking you.

You should consider getting a restraining order.
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Post Post #675 (isolation #83) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:57 am

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In post 665, Chip Butty wrote:in this game, as you point out, awareness of GF/Alpha is important for example, because we know not to trust greenchecks 100%
If I was investigative, that would matter.
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Post Post #676 (isolation #84) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:58 am

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In post 670, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 585, House wrote:
In post 567, House wrote: Verbose posts just make me autoscroll regardless of who wrote them, because the rules for mafia games outside of those with specialized mechanics are Xeroxed from thread to thread.
This doesn't make sense, because the point about the rules being Xeroxed doesn't explain why you would autoscoll past ALL verbose posts regardless who wrote them, only the setup posts. Also, I still don't get why you wouldn't want to be aware of the roles in play.
Duh, players in wall wars are boring as shit and I got tired of dealing with it long ago.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #85) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:00 am

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In post 670, Chip Butty wrote:Also, I still don't get why you wouldn't want to be aware of the roles in play.
How many times do I have to point out that I'm not used to open games? Holy fuck.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #86) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:02 am

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Fuck this.

No game is worth this amount of retardation and wall bashing.

Stop ignoring my fucking posts or I'll just rep out because I can't deal with your bullshit
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Post Post #688 (isolation #87) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:26 am

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In post 682, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 673, House wrote:
In post 664, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 663, House wrote:
In post 660, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 658, House wrote:
In post 656, Bellaphant wrote:(house and jae might be town
You've been town leaning me for a long time, but I don't recall you ever saying why.

Enlighten me?
You are you always around when I am around?
What is this about?
you have made a post directly after me many times in this game. I can't help but feel you may be doing this on purpose. Why would you do that?
Clearly, I'm stalking you.

You should consider getting a restraining order.
No, I'm not taking this lightly. Why are you posting immediately after me?
I post whenever I post.

If this was the only thread I was posting in on the entire site, I could understand your paranoia.

But it's not.

Get over yourself.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #88) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:39 am

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@mod: replace me please


Chip, please stay the fuck away from me you ginormous tool.
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